Should Christians Be Concerned By Ape-Men?

How has the ape-man story changed over time? Is this idea driven by neutral evidence or the bias of people committed to Naturalism? Bryan Osborne takes on one of the sacred cows of atheism.
Bryan Osborne’s bio: answersingenesis.org/bios/bry...

[@heinkeld]

Entire channel is phenomenal. Thank you 🙏

[@mysteriousscience2818]

Can I ask what makes you believe in creationism vs evolutionary sciences?

[@davidmeyr4558]

@@mysteriousscience2818 Excellent question. Too bad Dylan didn't wanna share. I'd honestly like to know if it's something other than, "I don't have any way to evaluate these claims and they tell me what I want to hear."

[@heinkeld]

@@mysteriousscience2818 @David Mehr Didn't see this comment. I'd be happy to share. Do you have any questions in particular? I've followed science my entire life. To say I take the Bible as the literal word of God isn't something I expected. But I can explain any arguments you may have against the word.

[@billieboy8]

@Dylan Heinkel I have a question . What sin had the animals left behind in the flood committed ?

[@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth]

​@@billieboy8 that's an ignorant question glad he didn't waste energy on answering it

[@dukekelloway5328]

Science changes. That's a fact. As a great comedian once summed it up... "otherwise it would stop".

[@smilloww2095]

Of course, thats how it works. But the scientific method doesn't change. As we keep learning we keep updating theories. This is how you want it to work

[@lisaedgett8714]

I honestly think its those holding on to certain scientific ideas of yesteryear (darwinism) who don't like science.. because it points to something they don't want to believe in

[@smilloww2095]

@@lisaedgett8714 what

[@christophergraves6725]

@@smilloww2095 Well, take a look at Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn. It's not just updating theories with very minor changes, but if the evidence falsifies the theory, auxiliary hypotheses cannot be added to bail out the theory. Neither should scientists ignore or alter evidence even though they do these very things to save the theory. Instead, the entire paradigm should be replaced by another. As Kuhn demonstrates, scientists are loathe to completely throw out their pet theories.

[@HarHah]

Lie's always change but the truth remains the same! 📖

[@carolynbillington9018]

continue to not be silent but follow God's Word

[@jeremy144713]

I love when scientists say “scientists aren’t wrong, science changes”. That’s a fancy way to say you got the wrong answers and are now discovering a different perspective

[@davidmeyr4558]

And I love it when Fundamentalist Creationists say, "Maybe millions of Scientists and centuries of scientific discovery and research, much of it done by Christians, isn't complete nonsense and we might consider re-examining our literalist interpretation of Genesis in the face of general scientific consensus just like we used to in the olden days after Galileo and before we decided that any view of Earth history other than ours is a pitch wrapped package of heresy straight from Satan. At least I would love it.

[@fess749]

So amusing when someone uses their smart phone to denigrate science

[@christophergraves6725]

@@fess749 He is not denigrating the scientific method, but only scientists who stick to their theory, which is speculation with some evidence, regardless of the evidence. Take a look at Thomas Kuhn for a realistic picture of how scientists operate.

[@dongee1664]

Better than saying 'I'm right and nothing will change that'. Science moves on with latest findings.

[@truthgiver8286]

Copernicus discovered that the earth orbited the sun. I am so pleased he was proved wrong or I might have lost faith in my stone age writings.

[@carolynbillington9018]

I appreciate the clear teaching

[@IBright-l3q]

Excellent presentation

[@gregcarlson8660]

I would like to see an attorney try to get Lucy's modified plaster replica pieces admitted into a court of law.

[@KaoXoni]

They performed species reassignment surgery on Lucy, not even bothering with her consent to begin with. Let alone anaesthesia! She never asked to be exploited as a poster kid.

[@johnl4933]

That would be easy. Based on all the other Lucy-like skeletons that have been found.

[@gregcarlson8660]

@@johnl4933 I would like to be tentative until I have a chance to look at issue again, but I believe that the bones of the feet on those other skeletons turned out to be a real disappointment.

[@gregcarlson8660]

@@johnl4933 On my comment below, check in starting at minute 35.

[@gregcarlson8660]

@@johnl4933 Make that comment above.

[@jesusdisciplemsyg]

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good. Psalm 14:1

[@jesusdisciplemsyg]

@All About Britain thanks for your comment!

[@jackwong4574]

Appreciate v much all the information and your stand on the 6-day creation. Is there anything you can help re question of light taking millions of years to reach the earth. Maybe you have covered this in another episode? Thanks

[@ianmonk6211]

this may answer your question light year /ˈlīt ˈˌyi(ə)r/ Learn to pronounce noun ASTRONOMY a unit of astronomical distance equivalent to the distance that light travels in one year, which is 9.4607 × 1012 km (nearly 6 trillion miles). INFORMAL a long distance or great amount. "the new range puts them light years ahead of the competition" it only takes 8 minutes 20 seconds for the light from the sun to get here.

[@oisinofthefianna3246]

Look up Robert Sungenis, watch his video of geocentricism

[@oisinofthefianna3246]

@Just me Not really, in his Special Theory Einstein advances the variable speed of light theory. Some in the smart set are turning to and advancing this theory, now. Search for "variable speed of light" on youtube

[@oisinofthefianna3246]

@Just me LOL. Only according to the Special Theory, but not according to the General Theory, genius. Look up "variable speed of light" on youtube and get back to me.

[@imafeltersnatch7634]

@Alessandro Palestra Your second paragraph is completely wrong. The ignorance of creationists is astounding

[@Chunky-turtle69]

Thank you 🙏

[@meertin298]

It's astonishing how much we have discovered about the world around us and how little that has affected your beliefs. No amount of evidence is enough for someone cemented in their beliefs.

[@SpiceyMojo]

thank you for sharing… carbon dating is no good!

[@rickojay7536]

You know carbon dating isnt whats used to date those fossils right?

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236]

@@rickojay7536 you’re assuming carbon dating is accurate

[@rickojay7536]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236 buddy what do you think dated the dead sea scrolls Also did you read my question at all?

[@michaelmarshall9132]

Carbon dating is only accurate upto 50,000 yrs . Many commentators believe that to be the age of the earth's creation

[@Charlie94781]

@@rickojay7536 radiometric dating is used for fossils

[@petratuccino717]

Excellent! Thanks so much and God bless.

[@jeffrypalmero9402]

When I was in the Philippines, my neighbor had a pet monkey in their nearby tree, but the monkey 🐒 never changed to his appearance, still monkey, so the scientists are daydreaming or hallucinating keeping insisting their thoughts to the public.

[@PortmanRd]

🎵 Oh ooby doo! I wanna be like you 🦧

[@hozn]

Beautiful presentation of Truth

[@Steve-dk3md]

Great presentation Bryan!

[@corycarlson3846]

Yeah Evolution doesn't exist. Proof: the bible. Lol all the scientific proof I need.

[@corycarlson3846]

And how can you say that when he is constantly make annoying noises with his mouth. Only got 1/4 of way through.

[@thomastrain7311]

@@corycarlson3846 what scientific proof ? I've looked and there is nothing to support it. Everything that has been used in the past was either fabricated and or misrepresented.

[@corycarlson3846]

@@thomastrain7311 so true of the present and future. You think the government scientist tell the truth? If they did they would lose their funding/jobs

[@corycarlson3846]

@@thomastrain7311 just like they lied about COVID. The scientist/doctors who told the truth were banned from tv and social media. Lots lost their jobs.

[@Krutchly]

Why would it concern them? They aren't concerned with facts, logic or proper scientific method.

[@archangel_one]

Actually, they worship the Truth, and are in love with logic, facts, evidence, and science.

[@steffanjansenvanvuuren3257]

Amen

[@DJ-il8iv]

Gotta more than just 9 comments. Excellent presentation Sir. God Bless.

[@mysteriousscience2818]

It’s pretty much all false though.

[@mysteriousscience2818]

You can’t separate fact from fiction while claiming evolution isn’t real and preach the Bible.

[@technicianbis5250]

@@mysteriousscience2818 "it's pretty much" Watch the video again, i would hate to think you going through life believing lucy wasn't rebuilt, or nebraska man actually existed.

[@technicianbis5250]

@@mysteriousscience2818 "you can't" And you can't force us to believe your fiction is factual.

[@mysteriousscience2818]

@@technicianbis5250 well it’s not up to me to “force” anything. It’s up to insane amounts of evidence. Positive evidence. Creationist and most alternative hypotheses come down to solely negative evidence which is why they aren’t accepted. Negative evidence is basically “I don’t accept this explanation therefore god did it” where positive evidence is direct proof of the idea. Like if you were able to find genetic evidence of Adam and Eve that would be positive evidence if you were able to prove dinosaurs are only 6,000 years old using a realizable dating method, that would be positive evidence. Saying “Lucy was rebuilt therefore she’s not what we think” is not positive evidence. And of course Lucy was rebuilt in some ways. There seems to be this misconception that digging old bones is easy work, it’s not at all, they shatter and break and do all kinds of things that require molds to be made. That doesn’t mean the skeleton or mold is fictional. It just means we didn’t have an entire skeleton. Like we the earth is so big we can’t take a big picture of the entire planet with any near earth satellites so they have to stitch and edit photos together to fit the whole earth into the picture. That doesn’t mean the earth isn’t real and the photos aren’t representing something real.

[@elisejaudon925]

I'm concerned about ape men. I know a few and they're real temperamental, with their long arms and long backs. Saw one this morning.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Chuckle out loud :-)

[@user-ll6qw3it6g]

😂😂😂

[@nisse18]

We are descendants of fish 🙏🏻

[@user-ll6qw3it6g]

Either you are beings sarcastic or funny or you’re using that Disney magical fantasy that we grew up being brainwashed into believing. Which one is it??😳💯. I want to know if I can laugh

[@serae4060]

So how can you be sure that humanity wasn't created by Prometheus?

[@user-ll6qw3it6g]

Who created Prometheus??😂😂😂

[@johncipolletti5611]

Wow....this is a stretch here but I'll try to explain. Most false Christians should be afraid of ape men. Why? Because any real Christian knows the prayer from Psalm 23.... "Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil for thou art with me."

[@mysteriousscience2818]

Have you ever truly considered you could be wrong? Or ever seriously looked into evolution, I don’t mean looking up “evolution debunked” or anything like that, but actually looking into the evidence for evolution.

[@TheMidnightLibrary]

@@mysteriousscience2818 there is no evidence for evolution. It’s science fiction. And evolution, along with all other scientific religious beliefs, does not explain existence itself. Have you never considered for yourself where all this came from? Did it just always exist? Did it come from nothing? Neither of these explanations has any evidence, so you have to have faith. At the ends of all scientific theories is mass amounts of speculation. Nobody knows. Why is God such an impossible solution for you? The reason scientific study began in the first place is because theists believed they would find complexity in the universe because they believed in intelligent design and knew they would find evidence by studying creation. I don’t know where along the line science was divorced from even the idea of God. It seems to me you’re left with much more questions in your worldview than I am. You have to explain how morality, conscience, and consciousness came from literally nothing. Absolutely no scientific theory explains the complexity of the universe. Existence itself is written off completely, evolution assumes the existence of an organism that is capable of evolving in the first place. Where did that come from? And how does it mutate? Seriously think about it. Evolution is science fiction. Even Darwin himself admitted his theory did not explain the very existence of life itself, it only offered a loose explanation for the many different life forms on this planet. Final question for you, have _you_ ever considered you might be wrong? Have you ever seriously tried to find God with an open mind? Or are you just putting all your blind faith in scientists and scientific theories that are also based in blind faith, the same thing you look down on religious people for having? “If I’m wrong about God, then I wasted my life. If you’re wrong about God, then you wasted your eternity.” - Lecrae

[@mysteriousscience2818]

@@TheMidnightLibrary there’s an astounding amount of evidence for evolution. You’re using the classic god of the gaps argument, which is “science can’t explain how this started and a few other things therefore god is the only answer” I don’t know where this came from, but neither do you and there’s a lot more evidence for evolution than there is god. All you have is a book that’s been edited over 30,000 times by people in positions of power. I’ll lay out some basic lines of evidence of evolution Why does every living species on the earth have DNA in common? Humans and tomatoes, humans and bananas, humans and squids, dogs and squids, dogs and cats, etc. it’s because we all evolved from a similar ancestor. Why do all mammals have the exact same structure? 4 limbs, 2 eyes, 2 eyes, 2 nostrils, facial hair, 2 sets of teeth, hair in general, etc. Why do whales have inner ear bones unlike every other marine mammal except dolphins? Why do they have femurs? Why can’t they breathe under water? Etc. because whales and dolphins both evolved from land mammals. Why does life get more and more simple the deeper into soil layers we go? Because life has evolved to be more and more complex throughout its existence. So the reason science doesn’t accept most creation hypotheses is because they’re solely based off of negative evidence. Which means it’s all like this “I don’t accept this date or this idea, therefore this other idea is the truth.” Science needs positive evidence, like everything I just laid out which is direct proof of the idea in question. And to answer your final question, yes I’ve asked myself if I’ve been wrong. I grew up in Christian schools studying the Bible my entire life. I didn’t truly become an atheist until began my scientific career when I became a chemistry major and am now a geoscience major. Also when I heard about the parallels between all religions I began to have my doubts. Religions that pre date the Bible have many Half god half man beings that died for three days and was resurrected, were born of a virgin, had 12 disciples, etc. Also I don’t have “blind faith” in science. I don’t think it’s anything to have faith in, you can’t have “faith” in evidence. It’s like saying you have faith in 2+2 being 4. Also im not sure you actually know what a scientific theory is. It’s not just a guess. That’s a hypothesis. A scientific theory is a hypothesis that has been tested hundreds of times and passed all of the tests. A fact is a basic observation, a theory is the explanation for that fact, a theory can never become a fact. Because they are two different things. And again just because evolution can’t explain every single thing ever about life right now doesn’t mean it’s false. It just means we have more to learn because there are thousands of lines of evidence for evolution, 99% of which you probably haven’t read. I have a feeling you’ve only looked into things like “evolution debunked” etc. look up the video ‘evidence for evolution’ by Richard Dawkins. It does a great job of spelling it all out in a way people can understand easily.

[@archangel_one]

@@mysteriousscience2818 I have. I have found zero evidence for evolution.

[@georg7120]

​@@archangel_one Them you didn't lo 59:57 ok. Have you found evidence for creation?

[@adamdye88]

Only when they become president 🤔

[@sandramoten-stuckey5488]

🤪

[@valterrusso4711]

Very interesting, but the tongue clicking before sentences drives me crazy. Bless you brother

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"Should Christians Be Concerned By Ape-Men?" Only in the case they are elected as pastor of your church.

[@Hotsauce-cj7kj]

There are no ape men.

[@mr.teacher5602]

This is a taxonomical error by the speaker. Humans (Homo sapiens) are apes. What you are saying is as ludicrous as saying there are no mammal humans. Humans are mammals. Mammals is not a species and apes is not a species.

[@Hotsauce-cj7kj]

@@mr.teacher5602 lay off the LSD

[@KarnakActual]

@@Hotsauce-cj7kj Lay off the ignorance.

[@Hotsauce-cj7kj]

@@KarnakActual say that whilst looking into the mirror and then you’ll have it correct(ed).

[@KarnakActual]

@@Hotsauce-cj7kj It’s not anyone’s fault but your own that you have no idea what you’re talking about. Not mine, and not the guy to whom you responded. We were just pointing it out. Don’t hate the messenger. 🤷‍♂️

[@novicebladesmith4620]

You say there are two foundations "gods word" and "man's word" but what you call God's word comes from the Bible a book depicting man's word proclaiming to be the word of god

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Precisely. God's word is not ink on paper.

[@besmeier]

I don't believe anything in it has yet to be disproven. It's truth.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@besmeier "I don't believe anything in it has yet to be disproven. It's truth." What would you consider disproof? I can neither prove, nor disprove, my own existence to you.

[@archangel_one]

@@thomasmaughan4798 How do you know? Have you tried?

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@archangel_one "How do you know? Have you tried?" As I asked William Esmeier, what do you consider disproof? Except in your case, it would be, what do you consider proof? The context is "I can neither prove, nor disprove, my own existence to you." Clearly, someone or some thing is writing to you. But you cannot be absolutely certain of it since you might be dreaming. Thus, the only thing you can be certain of, it that it *seems* you are reading words *probably* written by a human. So it is with "the word of God" written thousands of years ago in various human language. What is at hand, are words written by scribes, people that could write.

[@valeriehiginbotham5338]

Can someone tell me how do you get DNA from 4000 yr old bones?

[@all_bets_on_Ganesh]

DNA is just a molecule, if it is kept away from oxygen and other molecules it interacts with, it’s shelf life is a million+ years. It will degrade significantly in that time. But not every copy will degrade evenly. Imagine a puzzle where the same sentence is written on 50 copies of paper and for each copy a random segment of a random length is cut and put in a bag. The puzzle would be to rebuild the original sentence, which im sure you could do given enough segments. In the case of the fossil the degraded DNA is like one of the segments in the bag, a piece of its formal self, but the sum total of the bag as a whole can give you back the sequence.

[@jeremyjasonpage5863]

No problem dude 😅

[@stylus2253]

Peter tells us prophetically that in the last days there will be false teachers teaching false doctrines and heresies, like evolution.

[@stylus2253]

@All About Britain Peter wrote II Peter, but did not write I Peter, because it was written by Sylvanus, a scribe, dictated by Peter. -I Peter 5:12

[@stylus2253]

@All About Britain I do. From when he was with the only begotten (mono genus: uniquely gene'd) Son of God for 3 1/2 years and was left with His Spirit inside of him he was given divine ability or grace to write II Peter. The Spirit superintended the writing of the holy scriptures.

[@stylus2253]

@All About Britain keep listening to Answers in Genesis!

[@stylus2253]

@All About Britain and only when you're confronted by the inevitability of your death, right?

[@stylus2253]

@All About Britain No. It's reality. And you don't know where you're going when you die.

[@johndoe-ln4oi]

If you're a hammer (evolutionist), everything looks like nail (missing link).

[@mysteriousscience2818]

What does this mean?

[@mysteriousscience2818]

Like explicitly what does this mean

[@geminijixon6899]

@@mysteriousscience2818 it just means they have faith in their evolution religion lol

[@mysteriousscience2818]

@@geminijixon6899 evolution is not a religion it’s not something you “believe” in. There are thousands of lines of evidence that support evolution, vs 0 lines of evidence that support creationism.

[@geminijixon6899]

@@mysteriousscience2818 this is not true. They are still looking for the missing link and there are is a lot of speculation in the ways they gathered data. They started off with a theory and went looking for evidence to support that theory. Did you even watch the video? The man who invented evolution literally hated God and created the theory to try and disprove the Bible. Before he died he went back to his religion in fear.

[@JR.M.S]

I like the presentation and even facts. But I don’t like that the channel is money driven. The truth is free and should never be monetized. Does this speaker set salary or a kickback? Honest question.

[@blackhat1629]

Either we start from a book that claims to be god Or we start with just looking at the evidence and only look at what the evidence says no bias

[@justaguywithabible2313]

So easy, a caveman can understand this!

[@robwrathmall]

Perhaps the target audience

[@222ableVelo]

😂

[@222ableVelo]

@@robwrathmall Me think one cave man no understand

[@archangel_one]

Just ask Unthawed Caveman Lawyer?

[@justaguywithabible2313]

@@archangel_one society is becoming inclusive, we will have one soon

[@borncrazynotstupid]

When I was 11 I told my pastor I understand how Adam and Eve had all those children but couldn’t understand where THEIR children came from. incest, I wondered? He had no answer for me. I started questioning everything and eventually left organized religion behind. Thanks for reminding me once again why.

[@ianmonk6211]

you truly missed the point And no true Christian condones incest today . Ever thought how people procreated if they evolved? Either you had two impossible miracles of opposite sex breeding with each other or you had millions of people evolved at once. Another impossible miracle for which we have no fossil record to prove it Sexual perversion is why God destroyed Sodham etc What once had to happen from the beginning has long since been prohibited by God.

[@graceyow3392]

cain traveled far from his homeland after he murdered abel gen 4:12. however, he was scared other people will endanger his life (gen. 4:14) that was why god put a mark on him (gen 4:15). that means, there were other people in existence outside of adam and eve's family. then he got married among these others. the bible is silent how this happened. but what is clear is that all of us came from the line of noah as every other family was wiped out by the great flood. the nearest of kin marriage the bible mentioned were half-siblings (abraham and sarah, daughter of the wife of abraham's father)

[@ianmonk6211]

@@graceyow3392 no we are not told where he got his wife from But we are told Eve is the mother of all. so Cain could have travel back or siblings travelled to the land Cain dwelt in for him to take a wife. To say people existed outside of Adam and eve's offspring is to call God a liar.

[@taylor6618]

That's a very interesting question to cause doubts.

[@technicianbis5250]

@@graceyow3392 No, what it means is that cain was afraid someone would kill him in the future, the book of jasher tells us he was accidentally killed by Lamech father of Noah. Lamech was born well after Cain...

[@tricko321]

Should Christians be worried about anything? Heck no that would be pure stupid.

[@tricko321]

@@canbest7668 Why should they sin? You do know worry is sinning don't you? You should be concerned about issues and give them to God and trust Him. I know it's easier said than done.

[@FURDOG1961]

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[@zacharyjohnston70]

So carbon dating is alright if it agrees with your position. Got it.

[@ianmonk6211]

you missed the point. start with wrong assumptions get wrong answers.

[@sharidandan4172]

While I don't agree completely with the speaker, he never claims carbon dating is good. Only exposes the misinformation. So where is your comment coming from? He didn't use carbon dating to prove anything

[@Minifliek]

@@sharidandan4172 No he didn't prove anything ;) He gets all he knows from a book thousands of years old wich has more holes in it's theory than a sieve. It's easy when you keep falling back to circular reasoning, Book was written by eyewitness but the eyewitness wasn't around hasn't been proven to exist but he says he doesn't lie so since he doesn't lie even if he lies he can't lie thus it must be true. Theres a ton of proof that the bible isn't true but that would imply God lied so since he can't lie the proof must be wrong. Yet there is 0 evidence that proves God is real or that most of the bible happened. The flood is the biggest gaping hole in creationism, while no one has an issue with someone believing in a God i think people only have issue with things being taught to children without any proof. While evolution as a theory still has unanswered questions theres a plethora of proof for it, mostly things being confirmed to be way older than the earth should be according to the bible and a lot of fossils that show animals in between other life forms. It's not just Apes and Humans it's every category of animal.

[@lisaedgett8714]

@@sharidandan4172 most pop on after seeing the title somehow, then never actually listen to the presentation because they have already established mindsets, but need to pop off something from their top ten atheist arguments webpage.. their rebuttals are always the same and if you respond to them with technical information, they just jump to something else or don't reply.. they don't care to discuss what they believe because they don't want to not believe it.. I used to be one of them and I know I used to respond with mainstream rebuttals.. but once you look more deeply and honestly seek Truth.. and actually understand the complexity of what they say happened by accident by looking at the science.. you can't believe how badly you were fooled.. its utter deception.

[@alm5966]

@@lisaedgett8714 Why is your truth the real one and all other creation myths not the truth? If you were born in India you'd probably believe the Hindu creation myths. They're all just fantasies and legends.

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

You've missed a step, Mr. Osborne. Before you can use the Bible as the basis for you case, you have to prove that the bible is, in fact, God's word. Just saying it is doesn't cut it, I'm afraid. Once you've proven the Bible to be God's word, then we can move on to further steps.

[@lindataylor8302]

Apparently you haven’t read the book

[@love1another581]

The Bible IS God’s word. ❤

[@zephyr1408]

You have missed a huge step very huge step? Would you like me to go over the prophecies that were foretold and came true exactly as “God “ said it would? God states only he knows the future and told it concerning Israel. You bark out like you know something? I can tell you do not know your Bible , read it carefully and studied it! That is where my confidence in God’s word comes from! I will share a couple foretold prophecies that came to pass as God stated however you mock his word and we are done! I don’t put up with men acting silly! Since the Bible is not true (you state/think) and man evolved then by all means give me the formula to make a rose? So to be clear: prove to me you have read and studied the Bible? And send me the formula for a Rose so I can make one from scratch Then I will share foretold prophecies that came to pass therefore proving God’s word!

[@tricko321]

I'll second the Bible is God's word. The Bible predicted how people would be today exactly. The Bible predicted how people would treat the Jewish people exactly right too.

[@korilemay7877]

That’s a whole different video my friend

[@JamesW225]

No , aetheists dont bother me

[@jeremyjasonpage5863]

😂There is no missing link

[@phillipking6153]

We don’t live on a globe either.

[@technicianbis5250]

We don't need satelites to prove the Earth is a sphere.

[@technicianbis5250]

@Just me "and we don't need" Yes you do, you have no other viable way for why we exist, the theory of evolution is dying and even past atheists tell me they don't believe in either Bible or evolution theory. "and of cause" No it doesn't say Earth is a disc, it states the Earth is a circle and only a sphere looks circlar from all angles, stop listening to idiots who spew bad excuses for avoiding the Bible and read it for yourself.

[@technicianbis5250]

@Just me "and the sun, moon and the stars" What Bible did you get that from? While a crystaline sphere surrounding Earth makes sense in regards to a changed Earth that even secular scientists believe there is nothing that comes to mind that the stars are inside this sphere of ice. The historian josephus wrote of a crystaline canopy covering the Earth and it's believed that it was destroyed by Noahs flood and hence allowed more UV to enter our atmosphere causing death sooner, some believe these events caused all life to age faster and is the reason we only live around 80 years.

[@technicianbis5250]

@Just me "biological evolution is" It is the biggest con job since the flat Earth theory. No one has seen any organism evolve to something other than it's family yet we are bombarded by comments from "respected" scientists and others claiming it really happened, such as david attenborough who claims it to be true, that dinosaurs evolved into birds, brian cox who also is on record saying same, morgan freeman who just stated on through the wormhole that the BB happened, problem is no one saw it, miller/urey who tried to get life from non life but only got RNA which is destructive to life, still others claiming microbe to man but can't tell us which part of the cell formed first the membrane, the nucleus, the DNA which one? Certainly not all at the same time cause that would prove creation by intelligence, eg GOD.

[@technicianbis5250]

@Just me "it underlies the modern" What? You mean those Christians who pioneered all sciences were using evolution as a basis? No of cause not, they were using Godly education to guide them through the information and successfully accomplished their missions such as Pasteur who pioneered antiseptics and biology, michael faraday who pioneered mathematics which led to computing, isaac newton who pioneered physics even today james tour is pioneering nano biology.

[@daniel8489]

then channel is absolutely absurd. for this to be a actual channel in 2022 that people watch and believe defies reality. it boggles the mind.

[@kathydowning7477]

Then don't watch it. But don't disparage those that believe in Scripture. God bless.

[@Sysleeper22]

My guy people have believed in scripture for thousands of years. The Bible is the best selling book in history. People believe in it. Smart people and idiots alike love our lord. Just because you can’t doesn’t make our beliefs invalid.

[@imafeltersnatch7634]

@@Sysleeper22 The vast majority of bibles are free

[@imafeltersnatch7634]

@Just me Typical behavior of the creationists. Get cornered and run off. No doubt he's on another thread just repeating the same ignorance.

[@technicianbis5250]

@Just me "you do know" Christianity dates back to the first humans, no other religion can make that statement, Christ was first spoken of in Genesis.

[@johnbrinsmead3316]

Well noted creationist Carl Linnaeus did make a conscious decision to include homo sapiens in the ape family

[@miniwheatz100]

Spends the whole time trying to poke holes in the fossil record for humans, ignoring all of the other evidence such as how whales once walked on land or how snakes once had legs, and then doesn’t try to prove his own worldview because god dun it.

[@agr4259]

Only so much you can do in an hour. Biogenesis has been largely discarded as a leading theory for the origin of man by scientists. We have yet to be able to demonstrate biogenesis despite having all of the technology to replicate the conditions of that time. Natural selection as an explanation for adaptation is aligned with biblical history. How evolution as an explanation of speciation has yet to be demonstrated in any substantial way.

[@agr4259]

Also, you could use a biblical framework to explain that the flood killed off all of the whales that preferred land walking leaving only the sea dwelling whales and snakes lost their legs as punishment for tricking Eve. I am not saying those or proven explanations, just simply illustrating that the same level of evidence can fit either worldview.

[@jimhughes1070]

Bless your heart 🤣🤣 this was a very short talk which could have lasted for hours... You stated your rebuttals as if some of it was facts... They are not... Evidence for whale evolution is sorely lacking... As in non-existent... You've just been told their motivation for lying... Now all you have to do is go and figure out why you are bold enough to speak as though you know something... At the same time knowing that you don't know it!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@jimhughes1070]

Also he's speaking to a congregation of Christians... And not just any Christians... The Christians that don't believe in the fallacy of evolution... He's just giving them the facts so they know why the theory even exists.... And yeah, God done it... And he done it quick... With words

[@mysteriousscience2818]

@@jimhughes1070 what makes you say whale evolution has no evidence?

[@dongee1664]

A theist has to reject everything man has learned by investigation. Science moves forward, learning and amending, Theists remain rooted in millenia past. Shame really, missing out on so much.

[@allysondoerfler2435]

You're kidding, right? Many of the greatest scientists were Christians. And TODAY, with the increased discoveries of the fine tuning of the universe, and the unfathomable complexity of the single cell, many more REAL scientists (not Al Gore or Bill Nye) have come to the conclusion that creation must have a incredibly intelligent Creator. Look up Dr. James Tour.

[@dongee1664]

@@allysondoerfler2435 If you look hard enough you'll always find someone who will fit in with your predefined beliefs. Unfortunately for you they represent the tiniest fraction of the whole and fail with any evidence on every aspect. I am not interested in James Tour, Bill Nye or Al Gore, I see overwhelming for myself. Don't assume what you think is the obvious, it rarely is.

[@Jewonastick]

@@allysondoerfler2435 You mentioned "REAL scientists have come to the conclusion that creation must have a incredibly intelligent Creator." Can you direct me to a peer reviewed article from one of those scientist which ends with that particular conclusion???

[@KAIN3ONTHEBEAT]

As somebody who was once indoctrinated into a false teaching of what God is and then became an atheist, and then agnostic, and now born again Christian, and as somebody who is fascinated with technology and science and the ability of man's mind, I'm far more fascinated with the fact that all of these technologies stem from the ideas of God's creation. And I have to say you are far from the truth that we are stuck In the past considering how relevant all parts of the Bible are to people and the world today. However some advances in technology are meant to harm and corrupt and to distract from God and those technology's I believe stem from the devil.

[@dongee1664]

@@KAIN3ONTHEBEATAs your comment is non specific I would appreciate a short list of modern technology that stem from Gods creation. I must admit that I'm not expecting a reply.

[@klahicks4202]

?

[@klouis1886]

Why does it matter if the genesis story is true?

[@answersingenesis]

answersingenesis.org/genesis/genesis-does-it-matter/

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"Why does it matter if the genesis story is true?" The practical implications are political. If the Earth is only 6000 years old, which Genesis does not actually claim but this channel apparently does, then all of its fossil fuels aren't actually "fossil" and were created and God could simply create more! It also means all men were CREATED, and that means, created equal, since there was only one man how can he not be equal? So I would expect Young Earth Creationists to be NOT racist in the slightest. However, evolutionists must necessary accept that speciation and subspecies can and will have a wide variety of differences; most of which are not politically correct to enumerate and examine.

[@user-nh6mx3nb7f]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 really?!!

[@laynewilkens8998]

It's disgusting how he downplays the mountains of fossil evidence. And then uses hoaxes to prove his point. What kind of a person is he!? Disgusting how someone who claims to a man of God that just downplays something so backed up by evidence because he doesn't understand how evolution works. Disgusting

[@lisaedgett8714]

Im sorry.. are you a Christian? Because a true Christian believes Genesis and the enemy's number one goal is to have you disbelieve it.. did God reallyyyyy say? Yes, He did. Where did dna come from? Evolution is only a theory and the only part that has been proven is mutations WITHIN kinds.. birds changing beak size; variation of dog species from wolf etc.. but evolution also says dna magically arrived on the scene in some pond by sheer luck and that we all used to be fish so if youre a true Christian..than sorry for this rebuke but you should know better. Also.. for you to speak indirectly about another Christian the way you just did, in public forum, just shows me that you're really not well versed in either subject..

[@nicolasmessina5924]

Oh yeah?

[@keithkoestner6267]

Layne, people can’t know everything, but they should be aware of their ignorance. You speak, with no evidence, as if you know the universe. He may say something questionable, but at least he’s open to the truth and other ideas. Not to hurt your feelings, but Evolution has significantly More holes in the science. You are just unable to see them

[@keithkoestner6267]

“Disgusting” seems hateful, you must be a liberal

[@MrPlankinton]

If evolution is still happening then there Are Sub-humans and Superior humans. Right? So, Layne, where are you in the spectrum?

[@alm5966]

These Answers in Genesis videos are hilarious. Using that dusty old, contradictory tome as your conclusion then try to cherry pick data in a vain attempt to prove its the truth. Total fantasy.

[@Lonesomerocky]

I guarantee you did not see the complete video, if at all.

[@highlightning6693]

It's also clear you have never actually read the Bible.

[@johnhammond6423]

Yep, I always go to the Bible if I want to learn about science.

[@imafeltersnatch7634]

@@highlightning6693 I've read this piece of fiction several times. What's the best point?

[@technicianbis5250]

@@imafeltersnatch7634 "i've read" And yet you constantly are found on Christian channels, why? Are you searching for truth or are you being paid to disrupt these channels? If it's the later, it's not working..

[@aneyesky]

I like Brian- however there are times I miss a few of his words. He runs words together, it’s probably me, but if you read this Brian, please take it with a grain of salt. I am no expert.

[@illusiv2135]

You have not addressed the Forest People yet. They lived long ago and traded with our First Nations Peoples. All of their spoken histories include stories about them. Today, the elders of First Nations People can still speak with them. BTW... the Forest People recognize and revere The Creator! To leave them out is to deny a whole People that have existed in this country for hundreds of years.!!! Where are your DNA studies on/about them. They have mated with First Nations people and some of the offspring are still living.

[@truthgiver8286]

They should be more concerned about the lies your telling and the money your making selling this twaddle

[@christophergraves6725]

Ad hominem fallacy, "Truth Giver." By the way, if Darwinism were the correct account of our origin and our capacities, we would not be capable of recognizing truth. Rather we would only be capable of acting on what will enhance our survival, which might not correspond with the way the world actually is. See cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman's TedTalk video available on KZbin for an exposition of this problem. Also, if there were no Logos, there would be no rational order to nature. Coupled with the lack of human rationality on the Darwinian view, there could be no science that comes to approximate the way things in the universe really are.

[@truthgiver8286]

@@christophergraves6725 Interesting but my logic still has me more concerned about the lies they are telling and the money they are making selling this twaddle

[@christophergraves6725]

@@truthgiver8286 The speaker here is not lying. He has criticisms that are well conceived and supported by the professional literature even as he rejects the paradigm that most biologists work from. I would suggest that you go through his presentation and identify his errors with documentation. Just calling someone with whom you disagree a liar does little to get us to the truth. He can be criticized reasonably as can we all. That is what makes for interesting conversations. The same is true of casting aspirations on their motivations. Again, the motivations of someone espousing an idea or analysis is irrelevant to the truth of their claims. Even if they are money-grubbers, their arguments are not necessarily wrong. This is why an Ad hominem circumstantial fallacy, which you are committing, is not enlightening on this or any subject.

[@truthgiver8286]

@@christophergraves6725 at least you gave me a laugh. He works for AIG (answers in genesis) they are pseudo scientists who start with answers and try to shape the science to fit these answers. They misrepresent science to try and ridicule anything that does not fit their view. The fact that he works for AIG means he is a creationist and believes Noah's flood and an ice age approximately 4,000 years ago so yes I believe he is a liar and will not let the truth stand in the way of AIG making as much money as they can. So even if my brain is not seeing the real world my logic is definitely working.

[@christophergraves6725]

@@truthgiver8286 Your entire line of thinking is off. If you don't think scientists of all stripes have a pre-disposition to believe certain things or rule out certain things, you are missing a key part of the way the scientific community as well as human nature actually work. First, there is the belief bias effect that affects most everyone and that is when presented with an argument, people tend to believe without questioning it if they agree with it and if they disagree with it, they immediately start looking to disprove it at all costs. Second, you need to read Thomas Kuhn's *The Structure of Scientific Revolutions* about how all scientific inquiry among professional scientists is shaped by the paradigm they are trained in so that anomalies in the dominant paradigm are overlooked or dismissed until they become so blatantly obvious and strike at the heart of the paradigm that they cannot be ignored. Then scientists will wait to admit to the problems and discard the dominant paradigm only when another paradigm emerges to their suiting. As Robert Nozick and others point out, there are a large number of conceptual frameworks for any set of facts. Scientists choose from these competing paradigms based on how they deal with the anomalies that sunk the previous paradigm, but also to their personal liking based on all sorts of other issues including the philosophical or religious implications of each paradigm. Then they seek to suppress all alternative paradigms.

[@marklandrebe3521]

Depends on your race.

[@classicrockandfurriesrule4743]

No . Ape-Men have been Pro Wrestling for decades .

[@flpolskiskifl8709]

Love the message but it sounds too much like Kent Hovind. AND I LOVE KENT

[@richardcrow3042]

Cesare Borgia died in Italy not on a cross

[@richardcrow3042]

He won't save you

[@richardcrow3042]

Stop the lies

[@JamesW225]

Yes. We should be concerned with all living things. I dont need scientists , popes , joe smith or bishops or priests to tell me about what should concern me. The bible tells me of Jesus. That is sufficient.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"I dont need scientists , popes , joe smith or bishops or priests to tell me about what should concern me." That's nearly my argument. Concern is an EMOTION. You will have it, or not; it isn't really a thing you can turn on or off.

[@bornagain2641]

who carried out that 40 ywar lie. Who's is the actual persons who brought this lie as evidence. Then follow the name

[@GGGinJe]

No ape-men...just men.

[@raccoon6072]

Those creationists give Christians a bad name.

[@fliegendeskrokodil4369]

If creation and the fall are not to be taken literally then the resurrection and salvation also are not to be taken literally. If the fall wasn’t literal, why would Jesus have to die literally on the cross? How can you believe that he got resurrected literally if the story that tells the very reason why he had to do it in the first place is just a symbolic myth??

[@raccoon6072]

@@fliegendeskrokodil4369 yes, the OT and NT can be confusing being a rendition of stories that are written down after generations of hear say. But asking the right questions is the beginning of wisdom.

[@Charlie94781]

@@fliegendeskrokodil4369 the Bible is a symbolic myth

[@besmeier]

"...all researchers believe in certain basic facts?" Wow, even I know there are not many 'absolutes'!

[@douglaidlaw740]

No, they shouldn't. Everybody else is living by the present state of knowledge and saying "it doesn't matter." Only the Genesis sect are trying to prove the unprovable, and using faulty logic to do it. You wouldn't listen to a preacher who wants to take all your money; these are honest, but equally uninformed, and equally wrong.😂

[@douglaidlaw740]

A mdern-day re-enactment of the parable of the Unprofitable Servant. If they cannot imagine doing something useful with their lives, YES. Put them in a zoo, and charge admission, as their unwilling contribution to the public purse.

[@JR.M.S]

This is wrong. Truth shall be free. Not a book sale or anything reminiscent of that.

[@stankomalceski9677]

Yes we should be concerned about the subject of evolution cos there is no mention of Neanderthals in the bible.did Neanderthals exist and if so why aren’t they mentioned in the bible?

[@Ibanezflyingfingers]

Yeah! There are no trains or computers in the Bible either, so those things don’t exist either!

[@stankomalceski9677]

@@Ibanezflyingfingers what a pathetic comparison.there is mention of technology to come in the future .Neanderthals we’re humanoids very well worth a mention ,nephilims we’re also humanoids and they got a mention.a lot of science is fiction and created to derail the bible

[@Ibanezflyingfingers]

@@stankomalceski9677 Well Alrighty Then!

[@christophergraves6725]

Neanderthals are just another race of human beings. Not all races are mentioned and discussed in the Bible.

[@Ibanezflyingfingers]

@@christophergraves6725 LOL!

[@JoeKawano]

I think if I saw some ape-men, I might be concerned by them… 😂

[@archangel_one]

I have, and I am a little concerned. I don't know if they are actually "ape" men -- they looked like Bigfoot to me.

[@bevhor]

Saying these conclusions are the consequence of their world view is the most generous euphemism for fraud I've ever heard. These people, if intelligent like you keep saying, KNOW they are generating a purely fictional narrative, not interpretation, that fits what the dominant opinion wants to hear AND thus translates into funding and a pay cheque!

[@ClementGreen]

OK, we're all descended from Adam, and fine: we're all sinners by nature, but why does that mean that we're all sinners by choice?

[@jamesadkins1780]

No. God treated them too.

[@shereerockdaschel9301]

There is no such thing as an ape man. It’s either an ape or it’s a man it can’t be both. That’s like calling god an ape. Because he created man in his image. No man is man and ape is ape.

[@susanmcintyre5377]

No, because there’s no such thing.

[@rationalthinker9181]

So you start open enquiries by deciding the bible is the truth then squeezing fact into the narrative. This is why I left religion

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"This is why I left religion" Nobody leaves religion. You merely change your god and your belief authority.

[@user-nh6mx3nb7f]

Did we watch the same video?? Ummmm where's the evidence for evolution?! 🧐🧐🧐 I can't see any 😂😂

[@rationalthinker9181]

@@user-nh6mx3nb7f I think the presence or absence of God isn't defined by evolution. You can have evolution and God, maybe that is how God works. It's just what ever form God takes or how God goes about business, if at all has nothing to do with religion. Religion is a farce God not. Rationalising the presence of God then deciding the Bible is Gods definitive work is ludicrous the bible has more holes that a sieve that is why I left religion not God necessarily

[@ndenyer]

That's nonsense. Why does evolution affect faith in any way?

[@metaldisciple]

Because it shows that suffering existed millions and millions of years before man. Therefore original sin doesn’t exist

[@ndenyer]

@@metaldisciple that doesn’t affect my faith in the slightest.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@metaldisciple "Because it shows that suffering existed millions and millions of years before man. Therefore original sin doesn’t exist" Reasonably good analysis but SIN did not exist until enlightenment or the command of God existed. So you can still have original sin and it starts the first time anyone disobeyed God. It is reasonable to view evolution as producing all life, after all, Genesis says the EARTH brought forth every living thing; the only exception is Adam and Eve. They are special in some way, the first hominids capable of sin.

[@metaldisciple]

@@thomasmaughan4798 either way God still exists. I just think the evolutionary theory it’s too broken and materialistic. First off I don’t believe we all came from Africa. Each hominid is a race imo

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@metaldisciple "I don’t believe we all came from Africa" I certainly did not come from Africa.

[@colz4r454]

There is no evidence of ape men in the world. Although there should be if evolution is true.

[@dinohall2595]

Every human being is an ape. There are transitional fossils and shared genetic elements which are not feasible to be shared by chance showing the relationship between humans and other apes.

[@danielbixel8633]

Any argument that starts out with a talking snake isn’t worth my time.

[@Jeremy9697]

Talking motivated by world view... every piece of old wood found is claimed to be the ark, or Jesus cross. Or old structures claimed to be biblical places...I mean why is he not talking on this...the trend...the pattern

[@lordmaster5363]

Unbelievable

[@metaldisciple]

Good argument discord mod

[@davidjackson2690]

No, for there are no ape-men.

[@albertvdp]

This all sounds so, so good. And then at the end, children become 'kids' - and act accordingly. Little kids later become (evolve into) goats. How flattering. Suffer the little kids...? '

[@k-dogg9086]

They Lost calls their children kids because they are goats, just as we Believers are sheep. You know separation of the sheep and the goats, the wheat and the tares? So I say it is applicable.

[@KaoXoni]

​@@k-dogg9086 smart comeback

[@marossrsen8314]

You know the difference between science and you? When scientist find out he made a wrong conclusion, he is able to admit it. And until something becomes a fact, he never says things Like you are - "You can have this nice and shiny bible, or, totaly ridiculous truth". When you so love the bible, can you tell me WHO wrote it? Yes you are right, MEN, and not even those mentioned. Most of those men didn't even know how to wright, so it was written centuries after their death, by someone múch more educated.

[@leonidesrivera9812]

Write or wright? Please clarify.

[@marossrsen8314]

@@leonidesrivera9812 write, kind of forget to check that one for autocorrect

[@metaldisciple]

But science elites state evolution is a fact and becomes almost an unquestionable cult. People who question its ideas are ridiculed and risk loosing their career. This is not healthy discovery this is clearly political

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"When scientist find out he made a wrong conclusion, he is able to admit it." That seems to be rare. Scientists tend to have to be forced to change their minds about something, such as Continental Drift.

[@jeremyjasonpage5863]

Secular Society sucks 😢

[@nealmcbaggins127]

Not when he is as real as humpty dumpty.

[@TruSciencePro]

It’s unbelievable how much propaganda and lies surround evolution theory. I’ve seen info like this for years and if you try to show someone, they either don’t believe you or don’t care.

[@russellwood678]

We didn't come from apes man there's no way no we came from Adam and Adam and Eve God's creation we are him in his eyes.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"We didn't come from apes" My father was a bit hairier than I am so maybe I am still evolving.

[@robertwatson818]

Why would this question be asked in the first place. Very clever technique to create a situation and have the answer ready for you. Non event---move along.

[@DoyouknowthatJesusmadeTables]

If evolution is 'true' doesn't that mean today's apes will evolve into humans ? Sounds a lot like a paradox

[@sebastiannolte1201]

If it is true, that french bulldogs comes from wolves, doesn't that mean that today's wolves will evolve into french bulldogs? No, of course not. And that is not even a correct analogy, because humans did not evolve from today's apes. To understand evolution instead of thinking "A evolved into B" you better should think of "A and B have a common ancestor". And many people seem to think that evolution has a direction to something "higher". But also that is wrong. Yes, we are more intelligent than chimpanzees, and we developed culture and changed the world massivley. But from a biology view, we are just different, but not "higher evolved". Do you think that a certain dog breed is "higher" or "lower" evolved than a wolf? No. In a population not all individuals are exact clones of each other. Instead some are smaller, others bigger. Some have more fur, some have less fur. And some are smarter, others are dumber. But depending on the circumstances, a bigger brain capacity doesn't necessarily increase the probability of having offspring.

[@dukekelloway5328]

Isn't funny how he uses Sherlock Holmes as his standard of excellence? Yet his single complete book has zero evidence rooted in reality. His supreme being has gone into hiding for millennium after seemingly daily forays into human lives.

[@spamm0145]

From your attempt at satire I guess you prefer everything from nothing and complex code just writes itself over time playing random dice. Complex things require intelligent design so the designer not being around doesn't alter that fact does it? Maybe you believe your smart phone evolved because you haven't met the designer.

[@Jeremy9697]

@@spamm0145 when especially Christians like to use the "how do you know you weren't there" using fallacies like "well everything has a designer" yet you can not prove that...cause you weren't there. Using ad hominem like "yOu tHink your smart pHone evolved" just makes you look like a fool

[@k-dogg9086]

@@spamm0145 God upholds and sustains everything thru His Son Jesus.

[@christophergraves6725]

There is God's Providence that governs human affairs and our personal lives every day. People pray and feel God's presence as he leads them to act by direct communication...if you are listening to the Holy Spirit. Credible people have these spiritual experiences on a regular basis. Perhaps, you are referring to miracles. God still performs miracles. There are spontaneous healings, for example, that medical science cannot explain following someone praying for the person who is ill. But miracles are rare. They were rare in ancient times. The Bible is very condensed and focuses in on significant events so the impression you are getting that the Red Sea is being parted and people raised from the dead occurring on a daily basis is due to a careless reading of the Bible.

[@balakaythesloth]

​@@christophergraves6725 exactly!! I know God is real without a doubt because I've felt him speaking to me. Honestly, If I was an atheist I would be more concerned with people having these experiences and me not having any than I would trying to "get one over on the christians" they only cause pain and anger. They truly don't care about the truth.

[@MultiGodmode]

The ironic part is even "gods" word is man's word as men wrote it *runs off to avoid the crusaders *

[@k-dogg9086]

God's Word was "breathed;" It was Inspired in other words.

[@k-dogg9086]

2 Tim 3: 16-17, "All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

[@k-dogg9086]

2 Peter 1: 16 "For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His Majesty."

[@k-dogg9086]

Proverbs 30: 5, "Every Word of God proves true; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. ... Every Word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him."

[@k-dogg9086]

Psalm 12: 6, "The Words of the LORD are pure Words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times."

[@williamcritchley]

There are no "answers" in Answers in Genesis. Just religiously inspired supposition and fairly delusional conjecture.

[@fess749]

This guy should stick to his ‘holy book’ because when he starts talking about things like the Big Bang, and evolution, he just shows his ignorance

[@christophergraves6725]

How so? We need specific rational critiques of his presentation.

[@fess749]

@@christophergraves6725 OK, right off the bat he says according to the Big Bang Theory 14 billion years ago, nothing exploded and became the universe. If you study the actual theory, it doesn’t say what exploded, why it exploded or how it exploded. It simply says that about 13.8 billion years ago the universe was incredibly small dense and hot and was expanding. Prior to that, we can only speculate as the current laws of nature break down at that point. Additionally, it’s really easy to stand in front of a crowd of avid believers and go on a rant about how all the science is wrong. It would have been much more interesting if he had an evolutionary biologist standing next to him to challenge his opinions

[@christophergraves6725]

@@fess749 Take a look at the Cosmological argument for God's existence on this point.

[@fess749]

@@christophergraves6725 the cosmological argument makes the assumption that not only must there be a 1st cause to the universe, but that cause must be a conscience all powerful being. There is no reason to assume the universe has a cause. Simply because everything in the universe appears to have a cause, does not mean the universe itself needs one. The universe might be eternal, an endless series of big bangs. Or an infinite multiverse. We do not know the answer. And to just make one up makes no sense. Especially when you get your worldview from a 2000 year old book written by people who thought the sun went around the earth and disease was caused by demons. BTW, do you really believe the talking snake story?

[@christophergraves6725]

​@@fess749 The age of the revelation makes no difference to its truth. When people lived has no bearing on the truth claims they make. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle developed philosophy at the highest levels that has not been surpassed. They are still cited today and they developed their inquires with very little preceding it. By the way, the ancients knew the world was round. Also, the Bible does not ever present the universe centered physically on the earth. That was Eudoxus in the Fourth century B.C. And by the way, what I take is your metaphysical view of materialism and randomness were developed in ancient times as well by Democritus and Lucretius. Newton, who was a Christian and an intelligent design theorist, brought back atomism from its ancient origin and applied it to modern physics without accepting materialism as a totalizing metaphysical doctrine. He just posited atomism for the physical composition of objects in the world. Even so, the books of the Bible were not the product of human beings. These writings were inspired by God. Why would God wait until thousands of years later to reveal himself to people? The Bible's accounts date back to the beginning of time. God gave the ancient Hebrews guidance and set the stage for the redemption of humanity through them that even precedes them since God had already planned for the redemption of humanity in Genesis 3:15. So, a text being ancient does not invalidate it. This is a type of a Genetic fallacy where you consider the truth of a claim or set of claims based on its origin and the date of its origin, all of which are irrelevant to the truth of the matter. All things in the physical world have a cause including the world itself. Otherwise you would have to say that the universe just popped into existence out of absolutely nothing. That is impossible. Not only would the universe have just spontaneously popped into existence, but it and us within it came into existence with a rational order that makes science possible as I pointed out in an earlier comment. So, something outside of the physical universe caused the universe to come into existence and into existence with an underlying rational order to it, contrary to a random universe that would only be possible, if at all, if there were no Logos, no Divine rational organizing principle of the universe and humans with a rational intellect that exceeds the materialism of their bodies and is not subject to the laws of causality entirely, otherwise no free will and no rationality. Remember no Logos, no natural scientific laws and no moral law. No rational consciousness, no rational study of the universe that is made possible by minds that mirror the rationality intrinsic in the material world. Materialism cannot account for consciousness, rationality, or free will as David Chalmers has pointed us to in his "Hard Problem" of consciousness as well as Darwin's account of the mind that evolved only to enhance survival as Donald Hoffman & others point out. Darwin himself recognized that he could not account for the human mind being able to recognize truth. Take a look at videos on here featuring philosopher John Gray who correctly points out that science is a Christian production and is wildly inconsistent with atheistic materialism since if atheism were the case, there would be no rational structure to the physical world. Everything, as Darwin suggested, would be purely random. Nietzsche also pointed out the moral and epistemic nihilism that results from atheism in his rejection of the "will to truth." There is no truth if there is no Logos as the PostModernists correctly point out. The universe is not eternal since it started at a certain point in the past estimated to be 13.7 billion years ago. If it came from a "multiverse," then where did the multiverse come from and how did it lead to the creation of our universe? There is zero evidence for any such a thing, and no way that it could cause our universe since it has no connection to it even if it were out there somewhere. That is why the postulation of the multiverse is pure metaphysical speculation. The rationality that we see in the universe could only come from a conscious mind since it is impossible for rationality to develop apart from a rational consciousness. There can be apparently discernible rational patterns for a time, but they cannot be sustained indefinitely if there is no Logos. What would seem to be stably structured could just flip suddenly to another pattern. There is not an endless series of Big Bangs since there must be something that bangs every time. The universe cannot fall back onto itself and then bang out again. The drive that forced out the stuff that became the universe, in its ordered structure that we can model mathematically, shoots away from the original explosion to the extent that it will never be able to coalesce again. All parts of the universe are being projected out and away from one another continuously so that they can never fall back together again. Your alternatives to God creating the universe are much more fantastic and complex (what happened to Occam's Razor?) than a Creator who is the seat of all rationality and order that spun out the universe just as Moses describes in Genesis 1 under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Yes, there are demons and they can lead people to act immorally as they tempt us constantly. When a person gives himself/herself over to complete evil, then they can inhabit the person's body and drive them into all sorts of destructive behavior. In these cases, physical disease is not present. It is a spiritual deterioration that then can lead to a physical deterioration. We face temptation only because we are spiritual beings in part and have free will that empowers us to weigh and evaluate reasons, not causes, for our actions. We can override and redirect our impulses and drives in a way that materialism cannot account for just as it cannot even account for consciousness or rationality at all. Yes, God created the universe and the earth with no flaws. We fell when Satan took the form of a serpent and tempted Adam and Eve with the same evil that Satan himself had embraced when he fell from Heaven, and that is the ultimate hubris, i.e. arrogantly desiring to become God. We have each replicated this sin in our own lives and that is why human nature is corrupt and we need to control people in power as well as come to see our own need for a Savior. As we have seen throughout history when people have power then aggrandize their power even more in a ever increasing desire for more power to dominate others. God offers us a way out of this ceaseless and futile striving if we would simply accept his offer of grace to reunite with him by the means of Jesus' atonement on the Cross. John von Neumann observed late in life as he turned to God, "If we accept God, then everything we have studied falls into place and makes perfect sense." Newton, Kepler, Boyle, Faraday, Maxwell all knew this truth as they practiced their science in perfect harmony with their realization that God created the universe and that we are capable of "thinking God's thoughts after him," as Kepler put it in scientifically studying the universe.

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