Sneako Tries To Bait Dr K Into A Debate And Gets Shut Down Instantly

Sneako tries to convince Dr K why therapy and emotions are useless...
Date: 14 Dec, 2023
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[@ekysnoir]

xD

[@NerdyMeathead]

Title of the video should have been. Sneako debates how therapy doesn't work while in a therapy session with Dr k

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

2:17 My dude, he psychoanalyzed you live, on KZbin, and you forgot? Steven 'Destiny' Bonnell, ladies and gentlemen...

[@TurKishsoulja]

Why are you cutting the drug you are supposed to take everyday?

[@nothanks9503]

You absolutely do not become dependent on heroin the first time I know people who used for years but they never use it more than 2 days in a row without a big gap between no withdraw Opiate withdraw can kill you but it doesn’t typically only with complications like if you have high blood pressure it’s so uncomfortable that combined with lack of appetite and sleep it can cause heart attack or like if you’re diabetic the vomiting and diarrhea can be a problem all of that will depend on how long opiates have been used or how potent they are opioids are far more potent with addiction because we encountered opiates in nature but opioids are man made

[@josephismajoseph]

Sneako tought he was baiting Dr.K into a debate. Instead he baited himself into a therapy session 😂

[@LunaticSqad22]

I don’t think sneako even realizes he just had himself a good therapy session

[@thecat3507]

@@LunaticSqad22 is there any chance the guy uses this sort of behavior to provide insight for his viewers who might themselves be resistant to the idea of therapy, thus providing a sort of example of what it looks like for that personality type to warm up towards therapy? I just feel like dude is too articulate to actually believe what he says, and he just plays a character to present a character arc to perhaps model how to change one's own thinking. I'd be interested to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter who knows more about this world.

[@arnitaxavier9446]

This reminds me of an episode of Bojak Horseman

[@MajorTim01]

@@thecat3507 Id guess essentially a therapy session with Dr K talking to Sneaky and doing his best to understand how he thinks and reacts to the world. With Sneako (i haven't watched the vid, but ive seen a bit of sneako and adin and the like and more of dr K) I'd imagine Dr K is doing his best to be as neutral and non-judgemental as possible, which means Dr. K talks about close to none of his own real personal opinions and thoughts in case sneako reacts badly to something random and ruins the trust dr K might have gained. It's pretty much a front, but only to be as nice as possible and try to help sneako as much as he can. Just because something isn't real doesn't mean its any less valuable. You can technically trigger happiness with a couple electrodes in your brain to dispense a couple neurotransmitters, and all your happy reactions you've ever had in your life is just a couple chemicals in your brain firing. It's still happiness no?

[@benlee7565]

Just to be sure tho, this isn’t a therapy session

[@pizzahuthonoka]

Baiting Dr.K into a debate is like trying to pick a fight with the nice kid in class who ends up inviting you to lunch.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

and you pay him $80 an hour sit with him.

[@Grubiantoll]

it's more like challinging to armwrestle duel an entity that can manipulate timespace and the fundamental forces of the universe at will

[@chenseler85]

@@HarryNicNicholasthat’s cheap. Lol.

[@yelnatsch517]

@@HarryNicNicholastherapists charge hundreds an hour, especially one of dr. K’s caliber.

[@xvingar6318]

Exactly😂😂

[@imnezu8940]

Doctor K is truly an amazing conversationalist. The way he was able to break through sneakos cringe character he plays and didn’t take a single debate bait. Probably one of the most important people in the twitch space.

[@Shermfromjackson]

@@christpierre thats what she said

[@jordandowler2344]

couldnt agree more. The issues he tackles and the conversations he has with people are much needed in this space and he's kinda the only person doing it

[@ConstantineIII]

​@@christpierre it's actually incredibly impressive. Talking to someone like sneako requires a deep level of verbal kung fu mastery that 99.9% of people do not have. This is a real master class

[@raxxtv1998]

@@christpierreNo, *you’re* not that deep. There is a difference.

[@Mr.Coffee576]

@@christpierreIt doesn’t matter if the idea isn’t deep. What matters is the spread of the idea. Many people in the community need to experience this idea.

[@robthatbin127]

Every time I hear Dr.K speak to someone like Sneako it's like he uses his Domain Expansion. All his moves hit and in the end the patient is emotionally broken in a good way. Truly a Dr.K Masterclass.

[@SM-be5dh]

DOMAIN EXPANSION: SELF REFLECTION

[@dankrigby5621]

Stand proud sneako. You are mentally strong.

[@johneaston8314]

Just watched Kaisen and this "debate", what a perfect analogy 😂😂😂

[@IEdjumacate]

I love how he doesn’t react to mockery of his profession. He doesn’t take it personally & understands it’s a reflection of the other persons state of mind. Something a lot of people can learn from including myself.

[@SerpentineWisdom]

It's called empathy.

[@eleutherae]

Sneako saying at the end: “I hope to see you again soon.” was a highlight and pinpoints why therapy is so important, and why Sneako could definitely benefit from spending time with a professional. He actually enjoyed the experience and was able to process thoughts outside of the echo chamber of his mind to come to more rational conclusions around his own assumptions and beliefs. And that challenge excited him enough to want to learn more about himself from Dr. K.

[@eleutherae]

He and Dr. K should honestly do a series together where he does a few more sessions like this.

[@user-vh9ir5eq7h]

​@eleutherae wishful thinking I think. No man, not even Dr. K could tolerate sneako for that long without imploding.

[@user-vh9ir5eq7h]

@Royay I don't have hate for sneako, and while I enjoy listening to Destiny, he doesn't have any serious level of influence on me. I can look back and see a point in my life that I was likely very similar to sneako. Being unwise and young and always at risk of being captured by ideologies is relatable. That being said, people only escape their more bifercated ideologies when they've been backed into a corner by them. Not in a debate, but in the negativity sprung from those beliefs as they manifest in your reality. With sneakos personality, particularly his tendency toward being confrontational and unironically arrogant, it would make dealing with him as infuriating as it would be unproductive. That being said, if you're suggesting I should be more like Dr. K and less like a "Destiny fan" perhaps you should take your own advice and stop being so fucking condescending.

[@user-vh9ir5eq7h]

@Royay I'm sure he could deal with it. Understand, to an extent, I was being facetious with my oc. But why would he want to? There's so many better alternatives.

[@SteamGrace]

Man who called therapy "cringe" leaves therapy session feeling better.

[@tigeryumyums9407]

😂😂😂

[@Mk-ko6ot]

He gottem 😢

[@wishymawashy]

But cringe still there in sneako character

[@abrarixnietzsche7005]

ni ga that was not a session, watch the whole video, that was a conversation about why therapy is not scam and might help some people

[@Scrungge]

This comment needs to be higher

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

I honestly love how Doc said, _"We'll see how high your tolerance for vulnerability is"_ when he felt Sneako pulling away a little bit. He threw in a bit of a "challenge" to his "strength" without making it obvious, and kept him engaged. Really smart cat.

[@RonDaum]

He did it again when he was saying how being able to control and be in sync with your emotions makes you stronger.

[@frankmarano1118]

He has insane patience to be able to get this far with someone who thinks talking to a therapist is dumb because God is much smarter than humans. Because God's a real talker when you pray... Also as expected his own religion says God will never talk to you. "Since no prophets will come after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), the communication between Allah (SWT) and human beings is limited to revelations through dreams." I figured it was like this because I was raised Christian & every pastor I've met says God will never talk to you & if you hear voices it's probably the devil lmao

[@JoeMama-gi1so]

Religious people are so delusional they should not get the right to vote ​@@frankmarano1118

[@getschwifty5271]

​@@frankmarano1118 were you raised Catholic? I never heard that you couldn't talk to God 1 on 1

[@arnavrawat9864]

Dr K skipped a grade. His brother skipped 2 I think. Make of that what you will. Although he did go to Harvard and say that the people there were astoundingly brilliant

[@Gorlon]

The "Can I think for a minute?" line is so golden. It makes you feel really validated as a person & that your problems aren't immediately solved by someone smarter.

[@RobertEgbers]

You are so right

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

It is so useful in so many situations. In job interviews it shows you are thoughtful. With strangers cutting back on "uh, uhm, like" makes you appear smarter and more confident. And it is probably just a healthy thing in general to give yourself room to internalize something before replying.

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

He needs to trademark it. Make t-shirts with it as a slogan

[@cameronbaydock5712]

Leaves space for your counterpart to reflect on what they just said, too.

[@JoeMama-gi1so]

He has

[@insertoyouroemail]

I behaved like Mr. Sneako when I was like 15. And it was extreme levels of insecurity. I remember getting into similar discussions with nice people who refused to be baited and it just made me feel even worse that I wasn't "owning" them.

[@chrishekman6179]

Same, i was such a cringe 16 year old

[@MichaelTurner856]

Interesting

[@otakugamer616]

Ew 😂

[@zjaeriqsanders1731]

Yeah we all did lol, the only difference between sneako and the rest of the world is that he never grew out of it

[@sebastianrussso6958]

It's not even funny anymore that Sneako keeps acting like a 15yo cringe edgelord sigma male wannabe and doesn't get tired of it, because virtually nobody respects him except for the actual 15yo cringe edgelord sigma male wannabes

[@vincnt0169]

This feels like next level internet ADHD... I'm watching destiny play a game, commenting on a video of two people talking in the corner, with another gameplay section in it and a chat in the corner. The only thing that's missing is colorful, bold subtitles jumping around the screen.

[@matsiv5707]

well, I didn't notice most of those because I was listening while playing a game😂

[@ecab992]

Idk needs more subway surfers tbh

[@chrisbessey358]

You better be playing a game on your phone or on a second screen!

[@techwizardjr585]

@@chrisbessey358don’t call me out like that.

[@alexeonbel4304]

Dr. K is the blueprint for all healthy conversations for real. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone as level-headed as him.

[@Elrog3]

You should check out Anthony Magnabosco too. Its a slightly different aim, but he is great at conversation as well.

[@-frantsel6403]

Its true, but he also had his downs.. When I think back to his earlier videos he was sometimes pretty emotionless and didnt show much empathy. For example in the videos with reckful. But overall I agree! Dr. K is special and helped many ppl alot!

[@coasterthekid8867]

@@-frantsel6403 maybe that’s because Reckful was an actual insane person who didn’t need a therapist, but rather an institution.

[@dark0ssx]

lol no dr.k is a self confessed narcissist that breaks people down for views he's a very intelligent manipulator and abuser but his tone of voice tricks people like you into thinking hes good

[@JaeJae95]

@@-frantsel6403 He's a licensed psychiatrist lol. I'm pretty sure he knows when to show empathy and when not to. Showing too much empathy too someone that is in a very bad emotional state is not always beneficial and can lead to worse things.

[@Luna0wl]

Dr. K has just communication skill 100. Its insane how he weaves a conversation net and plays there how he likes.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i always recommend a book called "games people play" by eric berne, another psychiatrist, cos people aren't usually talking about what it sounds like they are talking about.

[@Zach0451]

He's not doing anything special. Stop dickriding

[@the1stmetalhead]

I’m on level 1 at 23 and it sucks. I wish I could have even half of what he has. But at this point it seems unlikely. I’m out of college and unemployed stuck at home. Seems like I’m destined to be poor in communication.

[@aleksisuuronen5969]

Well, it's kinda his job to be able 😅 Say a patient is paranoid to almost a point of psychosis, you kinda need to be able to veer convos so it isn't a mess where the patient just mayhems over the therapist or psychologist to the point of nothing gained from it. That's is Partly a reason say therapy doesn't help narciccists or antisocial personality disorder (psycho-/sociopathy) having people because otherone is just trying to take hold of the convo and just cannot, isn't able to see any fault in them. That's not gonna work. Other then again just plays games and manipulates, lies and excuses things, doesn't mention key things. Maybe if you are like on the low level spectrum of antisocial, very self-aware and have just the hint of emotion or just think it will make your social life better. So you will go into it earnest. It just isn't possible from the deepest ends, it will so naturally go into the lying/manipulating and seeing it all as being ok. Kinda living in this own world with codes instead of morals and suprise suprise the codes are self-serving even to others detriment.

[@Ivan-qf4mt]

I guess it takes two points, groups of interest (that you have to seek out, which might be complex depending on where you are) and confidence (second one can only be trained with time), some got this skill and don't even notice, others have to train themselves. If you got some hobbies and/or able to get in some other kind of group that you can share your interests and ideas and whatnot, that's a good starting point to kinda learn the ropes of socialization and all that since education can fail on that front (since that is not its main goal, more like a byproduct)@@the1stmetalhead

[@RobertEgbers]

Sneako does therapy on his own stream talking about himself for 5 hours every single day. The lack of insight is mind blowing. 🤦‍♂️

[@SuperiorRobyn]

Lmfao

[@eugkra33]

If you have a shit therapist, you'll have shit results. Lol

[@alexlechef2]

Thats actually a true,

[@NOLIFEMOD]

😂

[@The.Harsh.Truths]

I guess that’s why he doesn’t need a therapist. So he’s right.

[@Mr.C0ffee]

Imagine being so delusional that you bait yourself into a therapy session lmao

[@retrosuspect]

😂😂 it is actually so funny

[@flamgirlantquanxi]

Dr.k is so good at soft landings, people don't like to be humiliated and would rather dig themselves deeper into a hole than admitting that they lost an argument, but dr.k makes sure that the other person's ego doesn't get hurt at any point so the pride wall that could prevent them from learning and growing gets raised.

[@MrDgf97]

Media people are so bloodlust nowadays, always seeking to humiliate the opposition instead of trying to make them learn something in a productive way. There's a point to be made on why some would rather do that,. It's a tactic to make your opponents lose credibility in the public eye, but it's usually painted as "I'm trying to engage in reasonable debate" when it's clearly not the goal

[@harryfieldson]

In 40 minutes Sneako went from "Therapy is a scam" (bad), to "it's neither strength or weakness for us to connect" (neutral), to catching himself and saying shortly after "it's actually a strength because we're stronger in groups" (good) - every single thing he supposedly 'believes' is filtered through this lens of "I'm being watched by my audience, I absolutely have to maintain this alpha persona I have put on myself".

[@frank_calvert]

its funny because i personally doubt he realises the contradiction, cuz to him truth is if it sounds like how he thinks it/he should sound. which is to say this sortof 'alpha' esque idea

[@kiranthomlinson3056]

the lens you assert is in quite good faith, personally I think its much more likely it is a grift, however the story about the 11 yr old boys saying fuck women and stuff, and his take away that they are just comfortable making edgy jokes, not that they actually are misogynistic etc. makes me somewhat more believe that he actually does believe the bs coming out his mouth. I would personally prefer the latter as it would mean there is opportunity for personal growth and in turn growth in his audience.

[@callmedeno]

To me it is redundant because it is obvious he doesn't actually believe the things he says (outside of political speech) which he admits to without saying the words. I don't believe he has any question about it internally, it's just performative ignorance.

[@The-Entelechy]

it's sad cause he knows he's grifting for money. Dr. K catches it with when he smiles. He knows that Sneako knows maybe doesn't wanna be like this but his persona necessitates it.

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

His little toddler stretches in his chair. D'aww, he might be self-aware some day.

[@anarcho-communist11]

Dr. K isn't magical. He simply understands people and how to be a healthy person, part of which involves being very kind and compassionate to others without being a pushover. A lot of us were taught wrongly about how to behave by our culture and dysfunctional parents but we can learn what he knows and do much better.

[@Backpackguy12]

Exactly

[@SacredCASHcow]

its easy to become unassertive or too angry and confrontational and sneako is an example of someone who is too angry and confrontational. He clearly is a misanthrope so everything he believes is whatever justifies his world view of how he hates other people

[@David-qe9np]

That is magical dude.

[@Backpackguy12]

@@David-qe9np it’s scienfe

[@moimiess]

​@@Backpackguy12xD

[@samumie]

Comes in thinking he’s going to prove how useless therapy is and immediately admits he puts up a facade with everyone he meets and has no genuine relationships with other humans. 😂

[@beewest5704]

Pandering is a difficult game to play. He knows his viewers are adverse to mental health & therapy so he has to be. Who even knows what he really thinks.

[@zjaeriqsanders1731]

@@beewest5704definitely not sneako

[@oOTristenOo]

I feel like Sneako has such an obvious sensitivity to rejection. So to make sure he doesn't get rejected, he'll say something obviously controversial or outlandish that he himself knows will be rejected by default so he can 1, use it as evidence that the world is getting softer and we "can't have normal conversations about anything anymore" and 2, so his real feelings of pain, shame, anger or desperation will never have to get talked about because you're always argueing with the obviously controversial point he made, not with what he truly, really thinks. This way his real opinions will never get rejected.

[@MultiGames4You]

Yup he has ADHD which comes with Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria.

[@jackhulme3004]

@@MultiGames4You what's the correlation between the two. cause i have both as well

[@gobrownstd54]

As much as Sneako doesn't believe in therapy, he's literally showing how much he actually needs therapy 😂

[@SKPetel]

Man tried dragging Dr.K to a cage fight not realising he designed the cage

[@kyotodreams3306]

😂😂

[@avebroncx]

FACTS

[@xbabu142x]

Sneako the first one in history to throw himself off the cage and through the announcer's table.

[@F1ukez]

More like hes locked himself into the cage and dr K didn’t enter 😂

[@orcanimal]

It's hilarious how Dr. K effortlessly made Sneako debate himself

[@respectfulgamer7232]

Well, Dr. K is a man with a doctoral degree while Sneako is a 15 year old boy in a 25 year old body. But you're right, it is hilarious ;D

[@jaredmello]

That’s not very hard to do

[@respectfulgamer7232]

True@@BlckPollen

[@dawnkeyy]

I think he just had to not stop Sneako debating himself

[@parkeranderson8428]

Therapy is just debating yourself with a referee present

[@MenchieExtrakt]

Dr K’s communication skills and patience is godly

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i've been a carer for schizophrenics for nearly ten years, i find it best to treat everyone as if they have mental health issues, be patient, stick to the point, avoid antagonism. basically treat people lie they are five years old. but in a grown up voice of course. 😅 don't _tell them_ the truth - _lead them_ to the truth.

[@meh6513]

​@@HarryNicNicholasthink of children and mentally ill like your parents with Dementia... They deserve respect but you need patience and communication skills to wait and collect and determine their desires compared to someone who has everything in order in terms of awareness, memory, knowledge and ability to properly communicate in a predicable way is something not everyone has but getting reasonable wishes assisted by others is something everyone deserves... And although it's not any one person's responsibility if you want to help, putting the proper preparation can be necessary or you are doing a disservice by forcing your way instead of their way...

[@coonhound_pharoah]

It's hilarious how Sneako looked absolutely stumped when Dr. K starts off with "I am a psychiatrist but I am not YOUR psychiatrist. This is not therapy." He was thinking "but that's what I thought you did" and clearly did not understand how to proceed without Doc's guidance.

[@Dom-zy1qy]

Things I learned from this: Someones response to "Why do you think that?" can sometimes give you an idea of how genuine & well-thought out someones opinion is.

[@fliip4861]

I am sure Dr. K gave Sneako a lot to think about

[@HarryNicNicholas]

doubtless, whether sneako actually does think about things....

[@addie1080]

good meme!

[@Ivan-qf4mt]

That's a meme on how Sneako approaches conversations, since Sneako is actually a bot that is programmed to regurgitate the last thing he just heard from the people that are popular.@@HarryNicNicholas

[@MikeTsBees]

​@@Ivan-qf4mtso Sneako is going to start giving his chat therapy. He's going to become the red pill BetterHelp

[@user-jn3qd3xc9w]

@@Ivan-qf4mtsounds like someone I know

[@jeremymount795]

So according to Sneako, talking to a therapist about your problems is for pussies, but groveling to an intangible father figure and beging him to fix your problems for you isn't.

[@SmolenskiPrince]

Inshallah

[@thatindiandude4602]

How dare you mock Allah! Infidel you are inviting hellfire. Please be less Islamophobic in the future and convert to Islam. Or else....

[@jacksonelmore6227]

You’re cringe because you haven’t gotten over your religious trauma

[@Re-Todd_Howard]

@@SmolenskiPrinceoutshallah

[@Re-Todd_Howard]

@@SmolenskiPrinceIn-N-Out Burg-I mean InShallah

[@ovskii96]

Doctor K is like a modern Socrates. He just asks questions until Sneako realizes for himself how wrong he is.

[@v0id_d3m0n]

Sometimes all you need is a few honest, non-judgemental questions.

[@neelabhchoudhary2063]

That’s literally how you’re supposed to handle difficult toxic people

[@neodaltiair8624]

The irony is that Sneako just likes to hear himself rant about all the problems with society. He is like always in a therapy session with himself ranting about the same problems.

[@colonialstraits1069]

People who say they “don’t believe in therapy” are usually the ones who need it the most. People like Sneako can’t comprehend the not all people do everything for monetary gain. Some people (like Dr. K) derive meaning and satisfaction from helping others.

[@haydn1708]

Dr K navigated this convo so well to say that this 20 odd y/o egomaniac influencer came to the table with an established medical doctor saying “your field of expertise is BS, im not open to anything you have to say but you must prove me and my audience wrong”. I expected no less tho, when is Sneako not being a performative bad faith grifter?

[@urmum.comlel]

When the cameras are off.

[@UTO7]

It's hilarious to watch Sneako try to say something shocking and get a reaction out of Dr.K, only to be taken 100% seriously and asked why he thinks that.

[@frankjiang1857]

To be fair, Sneako just explained why he does his shtick. It was very insightful and eye-opening to me about why he actually does what he does, and Dr K did a really good job of being genuinely curious about Sneako and just listened to him opening up. I think I understand more of why Sneako does what he does. He thinks that getting NO reaction is worse than getting a bad reaction. So, he'll do whatever it takes to get SOME reaction even if it's bad. I'm not sure how that translates to his tendency to follow who he identifies as the "alpha male" and trying to copy their behaviors nor am I sure how that translates into his behavior where he tried to be stoic throughout (maybe he was copying another person), but the above theory fits to a T everything that Sneako does in that he's trying to get SOME reaction.

[@The-Entelechy]

@@frankjiang1857 that's actually really sad 😭 dude is living clickbait. No wonder he's like this now. Once he's past 30, he won't know if it's ironic anymore

[@wlsntech]

⁠@@frankjiang1857the reason he does the alpha made bs is because it’s the most combative stance you can take these days. Not only are you going against the crazy feminist and soy boys. You’ll probably turn off regular people and most conservatives too. David Goggins and Jokko Wilick are these ultra masculine characters that aren’t canceled but accepted by most. So there’s a way to do it. But Sneakp chooses the most Cave man persona because he knows he’ll be on an island.

[@beaurapp]

As a therapist, I really enjoyed this! Dr. K is definitely a master of directing conversation. I think this would be a great video for new therapists to learn about navigating treatment resistance. That said, it is genuine curiosity and regard for the other person and not taking things personally that can help any therapist connect with others. The first can be hard to train, but it’s necessary to do this work.

[@cyndoherty563]

Sneako has the absolute stupidest mentality when it comes to therapy but not all "treatment resistance" is this inane. I would not call any of what Dr. K is doing here connection. It is just the illusion of connection on behalf of Sneako. Regardless of what he claims, Dr. K is therapizing here. You cannot emotionally connect with someone you intentionally restrict from yourself and from engaging in mutually respectful relationship. Therapists definitionally do not connect to anyone unless they have breached ethical boundaries. I would call this faux-connection what it is which is verbal games and manipulation and that's what real treatment resistance is, not wanting to be manipulated and jerked around by someone pretending to connect and withold judgment. Anyone who knows a therapist outside the office knows they talk so much shit about their clients and hate a lot of them. Sneako is an idiot and/or trolling hard. He isn't indicative of what resistance to therapy looks like. I can't believe I even have to explain this.

[@BigJemu]

thanks@@cyndoherty563! i'm so glad you opened your mouth! i will always trust cyndoherty563 and their altruistic wisdom!

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

Did Sneako really not realize that he spent this entire time in a therapy session?

[@joshuakohn4408]

You would be astonished at the amount of things he doesn't understand

[@Doinkski]

@@joshuakohn4408or would you?

[@Wurstfinger-rl1zi]

Can Sneako even talk without thinking it's a debate while single handedly escalating the conversation into a shouting match

[@Salty-Hero]

This conversation is amazing, watching someone fight a spoon-fed epiphany.

[@zedmann1680]

Sneako’s top 5 life goals: 1) get attention 2) get attention 3) get attention 4) get attention 5) get attention

[@sidar87]

Sneaker is so incredibly insecure that he thinks actually reflecting is a weakness.

[@avebroncx]

As this dude is literally making him reflect 😂

[@ezo2161]

Sneako can’t reflect cos he failed the mirror test

[@CrawfishDeluxe]

It's funny that he says that sparring is harder than talking about his feelings, meanwhile most adult men I know think sparring is fun. Like a controlled setting where we get to fight eachother with a low chance of serious injury? That's super fun. Meanwhile talking about their feelings? Nah, that's a lot of stuff most men really don't want to lay out for themselves or others.

[@sidar87]

@@CrawfishDeluxe Man is 100% scared of confronting his own fears.

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

Strawman argument. He never said reflectng is weak. Hiring a stranger to walk you through reflecting is weak.

[@Phlebas99]

You could tell from the start how much Sneako actually wanted a good therapist interaction, but for his ego it would need to be off camera and with binding non-disclosures and everything.

[@slykeren8371]

They call that confidentiality

[@Bridgetz90]

This was actually kinda like a therapy session. He was being psychoanalyzed and didn’t even realize it 😂

[@ClearyRight]

I mean, that was kinda like the whole point of the convo and I'm pretty sure he did realize it.

[@Nergal667]

I think Dr. K's background as a Monk in India really helps him navigate these conversations flawlessly because it's clear he has a more profound understanding of the mind than your average Psychiatrist. He spent 7 years dedicated to understanding the intricacies of the mind & the self. That intimate understanding of the human condition makes him an amazing Doctor. He knows exactly what he's doing. I'm a Buddhist, and Dr K sometimes behaves more like a Monk than a Psychiatrist. He already knows what Sneako is thinking & what he will say. But like any good Monk, he has to confuse you into finding the answers yourself. He's so sneaky and I absolutely love it. I wish I could afford therapy sessions with Dr K because I know I need it. I'm in the darkest place I've ever been and I don't want to end my life in a moment of dispair. I want to live, I want to love but life is tearing me apart bit by bit and it's beyond my control.

[@sneakers_guy5488]

Don't know what you're going through atm but I wish you well dawg. Everybody's got something.

[@Nergal667]

@@sneakers_guy5488 Thanks. It means more than you realize ♥️

[@sly_sense]

Practice gratitude every day, and put effort towards non-thinking. A simple and effective book, similar to the Buddhist Dhammapada in its ideas, is "Don't Believe Everything You Think: Why Your Thinking Is the Beginning & End of Suffering" by Joseph Nguyen. I listened to it on audible. A few lines from the book I found interesting are: "Out of fear of the unknown, they prefer suffering that is familiar" "Thinking delays, thoughts create" "When we are actively thinking, we are either in the past or the future" outside of flow state. To receive insight for whatever problem your facing: "Be aware that your thinking is the root cause of all negative emotions, create space by removing any manual thinking;" you can do this by stopping the sentence before it finishes, the one your inner dialogue was creating - and if its a mental image imagine it dissolving. "Surrender any how's and why's and become aware of any feeling that arises as you surrender these thoughts, and magnify those feelings of love, peace, and joy." "The truth is always simple; but not always easy." "Thinking is a verb requiring manual effort, thoughts are nouns, which don't come from us. Thinking keeps us alive but does not help us thrive." Please remember what got you here won't get you there, hope this helps big dawg.

[@dylanbeam3922]

How are you doing now?

[@Nergal667]

@@dylanbeam3922 Better. Practicing mindfulness and meditation has helped me put my thoughts into perspective. And that has definitely helped put me in a better mental & physical state. Thanks for asking.

[@owie2813]

The fact sneako puts subway surfers on screen so his adhd 14 year old fans can stay watching

[@Nutbag517]

It's actually really interesting (and eye opening) to listen to Sneako's train of thought when someone is just asking him questions and not debating him. He has build his entire worldview off of a strawmanned version of his experiences, like his example in school. He probably knew of a couple gender-fluid emo kids in school who went to see the school therapist, but has told himself he was surrounded by them.

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

The irony being this itself is a strawman 😂

[@Nutbag517]

@@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God How so?

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

@@Nutbag517 you have no idea what he actually experienced in school. You can't claim he has "built his entire worldview"" off a probably.

[@Nutbag517]

@@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God I can when he has been caught doing it multiple times. It's an assumption, sure, but based on his previous actions.

[@Solid--Snake]

​@@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_Godkinda hard to call it a strawman when sneako himself demonstrated how his mind work

[@BlackBriar0204]

“Therapy is fake!” -Sneako Gets a 2hr Therapy session…

[@Zerophimable]

Dr.K: It feels good to connect! Sneako with his mask falling off: Yeah! :)

[@frizzman1991]

Sneako faces an actual caring intellectual and doesn't run away with his tail between his legs, followed by Destiny finally learning that Dr. K is a real doctor? I was not ready for today.

[@aarong3340]

God watching Sneako engage in ANY conversation is so frustrating. He goes into EVERY conversation hyper confident about everything. But the second you ask him to justify or ask any question, he just doesn't have an answer. "Why is therapy bad?" "Well you already know that". He can just never reason anything.

[@puxtbuck6731]

Reason has escaped Sneako and will never be found again

[@kamkoqu]

I think what Sneako meant in that moment was that therapy is a scam or useless because people go into it already knowing their issues (“you already know that”) but just want to hear themselves talk to make them feel better. But Sneako just can’t for the life of him string together a coherent argument.

[@TheInfectous]

i mean 33 minutes in and its pretty clear he doesnt think anything. he's just pandering to nutjobs with the most caricaturized rightwing conspiracy takes at any point he can insert them. i seriously doubt he thinks any of this is legit but maybe he really is that guy

[@aFoolsMartyr]

Because Sneako is highly unintelligent.

[@readmycomment3707]

@@kamkoqu Why did people 100 years ago have less mental health problems simply by having religion and community compared to now?

[@ItReignItPour]

I am personally a Dr.K fan- bro hit a niche thats so needed, I've bought his course and I think it's helped in ways I can't articulate.

[@addie1080]

That's awesome, I'm glad to hear you had such a positive experience! ❤

[@jp32123]

Happy it made a difference in your life bro ❤

[@NeuralWealth]

Sneakos course has helped me and now I can't articulate 😂

[@SacredCASHcow]

i like him as well but I think he's a bit of a religious nutcase. i'm willing to look past that though

[@Signal_in_the_noise]

@@SacredCASHcowis Dr K religious? Damn that’s disappointing

[@facejobby]

Destiny stops meds, instantly starts playing games 😂😂

[@christophergallagher3721]

Truth. I just got diagnosed and now have Adderall - the games I used to waste hours a day on, I've barely played since, and instead enjoyed cleaning up the house and doing the million projects I've wanted to do for months and years.

[@facejobby]

@@christophergallagher3721 I've always been reluctant to even consider such things but as a serial proliferater and procrastinator who has abject difficulty doing all the things I need to until the last minute, it does make me think

[@chaosi1753]

@@christophergallagher3721Does it make u feel weird? Im scared to try adderall

[@sigxfs]

​@christophergallagher3721 yeah surprisingly enough when you take drugs to stimulate yourself, you no longer need video games to do it. Who would've thought

[@n1rvana_]

​@@sigxfs Yep. Drugs do to the chemicals in your that, what other outside factors do.

[@AliEveritt]

41 minutes in and it’s so sad to hear him say, “I just like making people react.” I imagine he’s suffered from being ignored by others and that’s why he’s such a troll, any attention at all is better than nothing.😢

[@devinodriscoll]

Sad? Sure, but more in a gross way. Hope he grows up

[@celesticeyes]

Dr. K effordlessly blocking every attack from sneako is so hilarious

[@Silverwidows]

Dr.K is great at valuing the other persons position and making them feel good about it, even if it's batshit crazy. People let their guard down when you interact like that, which in turn makes them think about their position

[@1nfinity513]

Feels like I am watching a kid trying to learn learn different kind of emotions, but I enjoyed listening Sneako opening up.

[@avebroncx]

Yes because he baited him into a therapy session without him even knowing it.

[@xbabu142x]

Bro opened up all the wrinkles in his brain nice and flat fasho.

[@michalis75]

⁠aerodynamic af 🧠

[@specialknees6798]

Dr. K is the goat. I seriously cannot get enough of that dude.

[@jacobnussbaum2309]

Dr. K is literally Socrates with a med degree

[@Alltagundso]

Quite possible. 😊😊 Let's hope he won't get killed though. 😢😮😂😂😂

[@cornelllevi1]

Dr K after giving Sneako a therapy session: “but I’m not a rapper”

[@lvh5981]

"maybe therapy is real, and maybe I need it" HOLY FUCK THAT WAS WILD LMAO Sneako actually dying to jump out of his skin argh this was so insane he is begging Dr K to therapise him so hard and immediately after saying that he is giggling and smiling and shit jesus this was one of the bleakest most grim things I've ever seen

[@The-Entelechy]

Don't hold your breath 😂 as long as he's a streamer, he will never get better

[@haydn1708]

He’s not actually flagging a willingness to listen here, his mind is super closed. But he doesn’t want to seem unreasonable to his audience (cause that’s what feminists and liberals are obviously) so he pretends to come into the convo with an open mind

[@juanantonio3487]

That's not wild, that's rеtаrds falling for their own stupidіty

[@igorpedro8995]

38:31 So funny seeing sneako squirming and avoiding answering the question about what emotion he had behind that laughter, moments after saying he's more of a facts over feelings guy. He created that trap by trying to diminish others, not understanding that he'd fall in it.

[@terasbetoni8020]

Sneako is cringe 😩 let’s see him talking to an actual adult

[@arthurgoonie4596]

Muslims dont deal with adults

[@cameron765]

​@@arthurgoonie4596 How

[@arthurgoonie4596]

@@cameron765 I waw alluding to muhammads child bride

[@aureum7479]

@@arthurgoonie4596what ?

[@Pvt.punchy]

Watch a normally adjusted adult talk to a therapist ❌ Watch a narcissistic red piller, washed up KZbinr, conspiracy theorist talk to a therapist ✅

[@helenascriboni]

45:14 Sneako’s body language is telling us everything. He puts his arms around himself because deep down he knows that Dr. K is cutting thorough his facade that he made up for the internet and to protect himself… very educational video, well done to Dr. K👏🥰

[@Sidecutt3]

Body language analysis is cringe, too many variables

[@carlstevenson709]

Dude every time Dr. K said big tits im dying laughing. Its just the wholesome serious man quoting something degenerate gets me rolling 😂

[@Dakka_Von_Smashoven]

This is the my favorite collaboration of all time the sheer difference between the 2 and the fact that they decided to have this conversation at all, is just so funny

[@Nino9IX]

Dr. K is a huge example of the idea to foster and not force.

[@Henry_Smith_862]

Already had a high opinion of Dr. K's skills but 37:26 is Masterful. So impressive.

[@NotAProducer888]

"Emotions are useless!" says the distraught kid full of emotion.

[@Rohan-yt4br]

I find it especially disgusting for him to say that talking about your childhood is easy when he admitted himself he was very lucky to have an extremely privileged childhood

[@downbaddad5447]

Sneako realized therapy wasn't for him because he's incapable of having a conversation with a woman without trying to impress her. Which is literally the entire foundation of red pill ideology and his beliefs. It is all to impress women and receive their validation. And so he goes into therapy, doesn't get validated by the woman, and instead of recognizing it as that he writes therapy off instead.

[@orcanimal]

At 36:26 when Dr. K askes Sneako "why are WE having this conversation?" For a split second there I thought Sneako was actually gonna just come clean and say "Honestly, 'cause all I care about is clout..."

[@user-jt6rh8xy6n]

“What’s your emotion right now” “Laughter” How people like him have somehow accumulated an audience is genuinely worrying.

[@sarcasticdragon8673]

Hate to say it. But usually the audience has a lower iq

[@finalspoon7881]

Is*

[@17jat15]

that sounds like a criticism sneako would make

[@godwintalking4724]

Obviously, he laughs because he has no idea how to tell

[@rorrim0]

Sneako from what I heard was different when he started. He wasn't as serious and even knew how to have fun. Hell I've seen a video before he meet Andrew Tate of him just making fun of him. It's like you can divide sneako in post Andrew Tate and pre Andrew Tate.

[@marcusjones1399]

Roasting therapy while going through therapy without realizing it 😂🤣😂🤣

[@ClearyRight]

Do you think Sneako wasn't familiar with Dr. K? You're the second person I've seen on here that's stupid enough to believe Sneako's that stupid.

[@PillTruth]

Sneako says emotions are : Laughter and dopamine

[@GasDude1011]

"Killin em with kindness" has never been such a perfect quote.

[@enayatchoudhury5431]

Listening to Sneako talk about Islam reminds of all my relatives who cannot answer any pointed questions around their faith - jumping from talking point to talking point, without pushing deeper.

[@sticks7857]

You'd think a millionaire streamer could find it in their budget to be in a place that doesn't sound like a wind tunnel.

[@exapsy]

52:40 Yeah I feel same way too. None of the therapists I've ever met, were even remotely close to Dr K's skills of breaking down your defenses, of founding out the issue, of you opening up, of how to actually make feel somebody valuable. NONE were like Dr K and my expectations at first were that high. Like, if Dr K is 10, any Therapists/Psychologists (not psychiatrists) I've met were a 1-3.

[@ab-zg8pt]

Sneako has issues, for real. He needs a therapist.

[@CEWIII9873]

And a dad

[@mattreigada3745]

Dr K is really good at getting his co-conversationalist to agree to a shared reality. That’s not as easy an achievement as it ought to be when discussing Sneako because normally when you let him lay out his foundational axioms and principles, once you lean on those to point out inconsistencies or contradictions in his perspective he’ll grease and massage his way out of dissonance rather than really address the contradiction. Dr K does a pretty good job of giving Sneako space to lay out his presuppositions and walking Sneako into those inconsistencies without applying any pressure that keeps Sneako unable to acknowledge the issue due to defensiveness.

[@ando_ow]

I find this video so interesting to see how Dr K handles this with someone with a young mind and being religious, still handling well and try to get message through someone like Sneako his head

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

As an anxious person, listening to someone say "I'm always chill, I think benzos would be kinda boring" is absolutely unreal and beyond fortunate. All I want is to live at a neutral emotional level and it's my life's biggest struggle. You naturally chilled people are so very lucky. (I'm sure you are riddled with other problems possibly) but man. I would sell my house and Volvo for that.

[@RK-mi2sz]

As much as we're gonna clown on sneako, this honestly gave me a lot of hope. I think deep down he knows something is off. He came in saying he wants to see if Dr. K can change his mind. Usually it's the other way around for manosphere types: they have 1000% certainty they are right and it's everyone else who needs their mind changed. Kind of put a smile on my face.

[@ShustOne]

At the end Sneako says it was a good conversation and says I need to listen to... And then turns it into gibberish. I think he realized he was about to say he needed to talk to someone like this. I think it's a little sad his facade won't let him realize a truth about himself. Dr K is so good.

[@koomen9189]

I feel like the people who say "shove it down" have never actually had any serious issues happen to them in their lives. At worst I'd assume they just have body image issues like "I'm too skinny or fat" which can be dealt with with simple personal enrichment like going to the gym or something. If a serious thing like a close friend or family members death hit them I do not think they would actually feel this way because a serious mindfuck such as death cannot just be "Shoved down". This is mostly anecdotal because I easily fixed my body image issues with gym shit and confidence issues by going out with friends more. But I have had 3 major deaths occur in my life in the past 2 years of people I have known my whole life and it was something you cannot just ignore. Overall I just think it comes down to lack of experience and overconfidence in their own willpower that makes them give this answer.

[@Backpackguy12]

The term was you’re looking for is privilege

[@kiranthomlinson3056]

@@Backpackguy12 I dont think it is, i think they explained it in a much more naunced way than "privilege", "privileged" people can still experience the situations described such as death of a close one. Unless your running with a definition of privilege like "no emotionally torturous events" although I believe the word privilege is much more often used in a class sense. This is the problem I have with alot of far left thinking (and i mean FAR left, i myself am left), not everything can be boiled down to the privilege someone is afforded, privileged people are still people, lots of the time the privilege isn't even by choice. I urge you to reflect on your dogmatic thinking

[@Backpackguy12]

@@kiranthomlinson3056 I mean privilege as in a sense of safety from harm

[@Backpackguy12]

@@kiranthomlinson3056 I urge you not to project sir I said one word lmao and you assumed the rest

[@younggod5230]

​@@Backpackguy12 youre delusional. reread his comment, and realize that he never once strayed from siscussing the idea that it's purely privilige that causes this

[@HarryNicNicholas]

"it's not my place to do a diagnostic on you and say whether you are mentally ill or not, but you probably are"

[@Logicalization]

I know Destiny incorrectly chose The Wire over the Sopranos but it’s funny that Sneako had a Tony Soprano experience with a therapist

[@king_pin]

That moment he almost said "I love those examples because I think lots of ur viewers can relate to them" but he stopped mid sentence to not make them aware theyre being "therapeuted" along sneako.

[@carlriggs5413]

I aspire to one day be able to talk with a 10th of Dr K's charisma tbh. He's an absolute class act.

[@Biomechanic2010]

Im hoping at some point it's made clear Sneako saying "hes already unpacked his trauma because he's an adult and is mature enough to bury his trauma," is internally contradicting.

[@mythofreadiness2213]

im at a loss for words..... CHat what do you think

[@krowtic6807]

Sneako: "Talking about your emotions with people is submissive." Sneako: "You should only be submissive and breedable with God."

[@KevinAshton388]

In the eyes of a thiest, why would you share emotions with others when you can do so with an omniscient being.

[@Kknderbueno]

Dr. K is the perfect person for this because he has a strong spiritual background. He can pretty easily contend with spiritual matters and questions without dismissing them. Also I found it funny that Sneako said one of the bad things about therapy is having such a strong script while with god you can just be, while also going on about cleansing and praying rituals needed to speak with god 😅

[@emptyvoid5272]

26:01 Best Sneako and his Muslim lapdogs impression

[@JelaniZarathustra]

i'm old enough to remember when Sneako was hailed as a genius for being "young and enlightened." 😂

[@kyotodreams3306]

Bro same lmfao

[@brendangibson8200]

Peaked early, I guess

[@adamkasper2299]

It's crazy how he was smarter at 12 then 25 lmao.

[@rickdg]

I may have talked to a few therapists in my life, none were ever on the same level as Dr K.

[@kiranthomlinson3056]

consider that while this may be their first conversation (not 100% sure it is) Dr K would have had ample resources to research Sneako beforehand, I doubt he was going into this conversation blind. Consequently he was able to draw connections and make links he otherwise wouldn't be able to. On the flip-side I assume any therapists you have seen would be their very first interaction with you, so alot of foundation building that would take multiple sessions would need to be done to draw the same links. And another huge assumption (dopesnt really change the point though) but with you saying "a few therapists" im guessing you didnt attend many sessions with each, meaning they didnt have those foundations to make the links, also I dont believe a traditional therapist is as upfront with what they are thinking as Dr K (because ultimately he is making content to teach people so it is important to talk through his thought process), giving the impression he is doing more.

[@Treebeerdz]

Dr.K is a psychiatrist so yes he is literally on a different level.

[@angryretailbanker5103]

27:59 Sneako voicing support for equality at a level far more radical than any progressive could ever dream. 😂

[@MrZulu2607]

Sneako using the tiktok method of random video of subway surfer/soccer/gta/etc below the actual video is so insane😂

[@nickwiener8729]

Dr Kaye said “we both know you’re being fake” and of course that was true. And that was so intentional and it worked so well. Because sneako felt stupid and stopped being so fake.

[@chuey2846]

I dont think sneeko realized the count to 10 thing was a test

[@2ThumbsUp4You]

I figured it was just to set the audio levels

[@upd0g1]

My impression was that Dr. K was checking the audio levels. Sneako’s impression was that Dr. K was trying to emasculate him.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@upd0g1 but notice dr k was quite happy to indulge and would have counted to 420 no problem. i just recommended my favorite book - "games people play" by eric berne, as i said it's all about transactional analysis - people are not usually talking about what they appear to be talking about, and it's good when (dr k) recognises sneako is being a smart arse and goes "okay, i'll play the game, but you'll get bored first". if you watch audit videos you see the cops do this all the time, they let their ego get the better of them and they say "well i can stand here longer than you" and they always lose. my motto: always leave room for an apology with dignity, otherwise you get into a pissing contest and you end up in the hospital, court or looking very silly.

[@pufferfish5468]

I don't think Sneako realize that his stream is his own "therapy session", he vents and goes off on tangent and rants about any topic he saw on social media to his audience (or his friends like zherka or adin), that's definitely one way to talk about your emotions. I'm only 5 mins into this video so idk if they're gonna mention this later on

[@gobrownstd54]

So I'm at the 41:00 part and it feels like the ending SHOULD be, Sneako balling and saying "holy shit, thank you, you've helped me... NOT with therapy!!!! With conversation!" 😂

[@centipedekid9824]

Shaun Strickland cries from talking about his childhood sparring is way easier than actually dealing with your trauma