So there was a new Batman Show (Caped Crusader)

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

“…and it claims to be a dark, introspective take on the [Batman] franchise.” Do you realize just how little that narrows it down?!

[@jaggerguth4391]

Thanks for the insight, Blight.

[@RikouHogashi]

@@jaggerguth4391 nice noticing the Beyond reference and it was spot on too

[@johndavis9321]

Lol right it be one thing if we're talkin about like Scooby doo on zombie island but when dark and introspective are generally the angle most writers take on the character then that isn't really a selling point

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

@@johndavis9321 exactly. We’ve seen batman being dark and gritty over and over again. It’s old. And so is campy batman. Everything that can be done with the character (at least in movies and tv) has been done before. In your example of zombie that was not only the first time we saw scooby doo be dark and gritty and one of the few times. The truth is batman (and most mainstream superheroes if we’re being honest) are inflexible and can only be put into so many situations before they crack and fall apart. Like, what IS batman, really? He’s a detective and a guy who beats up low ranking criminals for general crime stuff. He can’t fight thanos or Darkseid really and is mostly only shown in Gotham. The scale of where batman is usable as a fighter and hero is small scale compared to other superheroes. I’m not saying that like it’s a bad thing, the Nolan films being comparatively small scale to the world or universe ending conflicts made the films unironically better, but it’s yet another limitation on an already limited character. Honestly, animators and artists should stop adapting characters that ALREADY had stellar adaptations and introductions and focus on ideas/characters that never got off the ground or were canned too early.

[@DianaGohan]

"Do you have the slightest idea of how little that narrows it down?" Sorry but that's one of those quotes that works best when you get it down correctly.

[@paulpatrong5113]

Onomatopoeia in his original incarnation was a serial killer who prayed on vigilantes and was far more noire. He can replicate sounds perfectly not just sound like he did in this show, he used this to fake cries from victims and psychologically affect his victims. This is what should have been presented in this show which was advertised as being gritty and noire but made him this for some unknown reason.

[@malinok4889]

Holy christ that sounds terrifying

[@bluestreaker9242]

This premise for a psychological horror antagonist was GIFT-WRAPPED to the showrunners...and they went with "Make him make funny mouth noises, hurr hurr hurr! Paycheck go BRRRRRR!" *sigh*...I...I-I'm more disappointed and upset than annoyed or angry, but rest assured, I am all 4... >.>

[@plumaDshinigami]

Bruce Timm was the main artist, but he wasn't behind everything. It was several people who wrote and molded Batman. Good shows require more than one man and his yes-men.

[@michaelbuehler3897]

"Good shows require more than one man and his yes-men." That's a good way to sum it up.

[@tyrannozilla]

I don't think Timm has a bunch of yes-men on this show, I just think he lost his steam. Still, he should've gotten Paul Dini to help him again.

[@thesquishedelf1301]

I noticed the next two credits after Tim were JJ Abrams and Matt Reeves, two infamous reimaginers from Hollywood.

[@shawklan27]

@plumaDshinigami this can be applied to everything yet people would rather oversimplify it to attributing it to one person

[@LooneyCartoonMan]

@@plumaDshinigami He is the developer and showrunner of this show

[@HellsFury-fu3qk]

A lot of people have said that Batman: The Animated Series ended up being so good was more thanks to Paul Dini, not so much Bruce Timm.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Is Bruce Tim's Batman's Dave Filoni minus the Ashoka oc type obsession?

[@jlev1028]

Yeah, Timm's pretty much the Bob Kane of the DCAU. He came up with the designs, but his partner refined them and gave the characters soul.

[@mizzmimi9086]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral Wouldn't Harley Quinn be Timm's equivalent of Ahsoka Tano? She's his OC (well, he and Paul Dini's) even if she's gone on to be in a lot of DC media not involving him since her inception. He's also drawn lots of eroticized art of her over the years (including her with Batman, her with Ivey, her with Nightwing in that one movie, etc).

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

Yes, Fifi's secret husband. He was the man.

[@KeroKaminaX]

I don’t think joker off the jump is required for a Batman story/series to work, there’s been plenty of Batman shows where joker isn’t front and center.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

This, plus many are a bit tired of Joker

[@Babbleplay]

I don't usually dismiss Enter, but I have to agree. It's a good thing to see a Batman series that doesn't rely on the Joker as a crutch off the go. Sure, CC is no TAS, but, really, what is? I have been enjoying this series and look forward to more. Is it the best? No. There can be only one best. That should not count against it. You've gotten too cynical, Mister enter, and I urge you to rewatch the last 15 minutes of Ratatouille. Specifically, Anton Ego's speech. It ain;t perfect, but there is a lot to praise about Caped Crusader.

[@izzyj.1079]

The Batman sure seemed to get along fine without him

[@Babbleplay]

@@izzyj.1079 The Batman had Joker. That weird, shoeless, wild haired one that looked like Joker fused with Sabretooth.

[@jaggerguth4391]

Beware the Batman is a perfect example of this. That show never used the Major Bat-Rogues at all (aside from the League of the Shadows, Man-Bat, Two-Face, and Killer Croc) and instead uses lesser known foes like Anarky, Humpty Dumpty and Magpie or villains from other superheroes like Simon Stagg and Tobias Whale.

[@TheMysteriousMrEnter]

What's your favorite adaptation of Batman? (Also, Toy Story 4 is next).

[@SycrosD4]

The original animated series and Beyond

[@kamenriderfan322]

Between Dark Knight or Beyond

[@gundamfight5953]

TAS, Injustice and Arkham

[@lukethephantomthief]

The Animated Series and Brave and the Bold

[@foxtoons1999]

I think it’d be really funny to see you go crazy watching the Sandy Cheeks Movie.

[@BlackFlash09]

There is no superhero fatigue. There is only bad movie fatigue.

[@allendepacheco3419]

​@Alezander2002 Frankly anything by James Gunn showed that you need a good writer and director. The Suicide Squad redeemed DCEU from the flop of the previous Suicide Squad. Gaurdians of the Galaxy 3 reinvigorated people to understand what they loved about the MCU after multiple mid movies and shows. Then there's Invincible that offers more nuanced take of the superhero genre while having some escalation similar to shonen (and being from Image made the setting more fresh for people who already seen DC and Marvel). Moon Girl ans Devil Dinosaur is phenomenal on all accounts with beautiful animation, great music, and fully developed characters especially with Lunella and her family. And don't get me started with the Spider-verse where people were getting tired of the multiverse plot only for the second movie to show how it can be done. Same with Cake & Fiona and Everywhere & Everything at Once doing something creative with their multiverse.

[@SonicStantz]

This. Right Here. Thank You.

[@Animestar21]

@@allendepacheco3419couldn’t have said it better myself

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

We’re talking about a show, not a movie.

[@Animestar21]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios Same difference

[@Kayjoir]

I think part of the reason everyone focuses on the Gender Flipped Penguin is that it's the first notable change we're introduced to and most people stopped watching the show after that.

[@juuchanIRL]

and also misses the point of the character the hardest. penguin was ugly, hated and marginalized. but he was also irredemably evil. this is what made me like him. his personal tragedy and stubborness to fix himself made him interesting. this version removes all the things that made me care about this character.

[@Zombieworm98]

​@@juuchanIRL I mean she's still "ugly" I mean who has it worse ugly men or ugly women? Especially in media you always see ugly/below average men getting with attractive women, like the woman is either a prize for the ugly guy or she's a good person for lowering her standards and seeing "The beauty deep down" I legitimately can't think of a movie besides Red Shoes where a conventionally attractive man ends up with a non conventional woman. So penguin being "ugly woman" instead of "ugly man" doesn't take away from what you brought up. Not saying it's a good change, just disagree with what you specifically said.

[@juuchanIRL]

@@Zombieworm98 they made ugly FEMALE penguin attractive and popular. so by gender swapping an ugly char he is suddenly liked? (obvious politics right there, because reality is closer to what you describe) they didnt go for the well meant message "ugly women have it rough", they went for "ugly women are awesome and to be celebrated" this is not only improbable, it goes against what the penguin means as a character

[@SkylarThompson-mu1qs]

@@juuchanIRLShowing the struggles of a character and help open people's minds would be a good thing but I feel some cis men enjoy either demonising their female characters or making them flawless which can work but shouldn't only be because they are female. (It is okay to show there is nothing wrong with them too but women having to be perfect shouldn't be the normal since women having to be perfect due to societal or sexist pressures other pressures is still an issue today or they try to write what they think a female or female audience is like and make a horrible character or person when she isn't mean to be one since........She usually has the writer's flaws from now or their past. No, Bing Bang Theory, I don't feel represented by Penny, aka female Stan Marsh, I feel more represented by Amy and Bernie.

[@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle]

​@@juuchanIRLPenguin was never that ugly in the animated depictions of him to begin with, in BTAS he was actually kinda cute, so what's your point?

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

"The Joker always comes first." And then you showed a clip from the trilogy where he didn't appear until the second movie.

[@mikeclarke5732]

So they just forgot Talia Al Ghul and Lady Shiva exist and are prominent Batman villains?

[@Victor-qx3vx]

I wouldn’t call Lady Shiva “prominent”. The most popular example of her being outside the comics is probably Arkham Origins and she didn’t have a big role there. And if you’re thinking about whatever role she had on Young Justice, shows like this are a bit more niche than the game I think. Usually when people talk about prominent female bat rogues the answers you hear are: Catwoman, Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. Talia Al Ghul always in that fourth mention like “Oh 3 is too little let me see if I can think on someone else” kind of way.

[@labgoat6787]

Also, if you wanted a female crimelord baddie, doesn’t Sofia Falcone exist? Or make a whole new character altogether.

[@BlackCover95]

I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the fact that Two-Face doesn’t use his coin. Something which adds moral dimension to his character (leaving choices up to chance), and he doesn’t bother.

[@kennydarmawan13]

I think the difference between genderbending Penguin and Doc Ock is that, in the former case, it's because of the supposed fact that Batman doesn't have many female villains (major, maybe, but considering Onomatopoeia's existence, they could've used an obscure character to fill that role). In the latter case, it's meant to be a well-elaborated shocking reveal that's actually served as a reminder that the story involves the multiverse. It's meant to catch Peter B. Parker offhand like us, the audience.

[@rudevoices9204]

should also point out there HAS been a female Doc Ock before (completely different but yeah) so the idea wasn't too far fetched from the getgo and they kept her interesting throughout the movie. My favorite instance is when she lifts herself to Kingpin's level with her tentacles, then above, showing her believing she's above him

[@matthewgillis2617]

Not only that, but the Arkham games took one of Batman's lesser villains, Copperhead, and changed the weirdo in a snake outfit into a lady contortionist with poisonous claws, extreme agility, and a literal forked tongue. She almost killed batman with the poison, had Alfred not arrived in time!

[@robo-nidai4236]

You know. It's fitting that Bruce Timm worked on so many animated Batman projects. Because he really is the Bob Kane to Paul Dini's Bill Finger.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Major difference is Timm is not taking full credit and Dini isnt dead to where Bruce can take full credit

[@tayojones9460]

​@Thomasmemoryscentral Also, there was more than one person who worked on BTAS

[@stephenlondino7636]

Bob Jane Paul Dini Could you explain I’m not familiar with those people

[@jlev1028]

​@stephenlondino7636 Bob Kane was one of the co-creators of Batman. He created the skeleton of the character, but his partner Bill Finger filled it with muscle, skin, and sinew. Unfortunately, due to Kane's jealousy, as well as Finger agreeing to sell the rights to the character, the latter ended up being uncredited past his death. It took until a few years ago for DC to recognize Kane wasn't alone.

[@animegx45]

To be fair, "Beware The Batman" was already taken.

[@Dilbert1999]

There actually was a show called "Beware The Batman," it got panned hard for its CGi animation, though from what little I've seen of it, it didn't look too bad.

[@smashmaster521]

Beware The Batman was a fun show, even if it was hard to make out Batman's chest symbol on an all-black costume.

[@AppleWoods6]

What really killed it for me was a minor thing, but it was so out of character for two supposedly intelligent characters that it immediately took me out of it; there was a scene where it showed Bruce and Alfred playing chess, and Bruce won the game by TAKING ALFRED'S KING. You don't TAKE the king, you checkmate it, and those two of all people should know how that game works.

[@board-qu9iu]

@@AppleWoods6you could say they played some variation of Chess Regardless, it’s not a huge difference

[@jakepalermo9181]

Two-Face is in that show too. Basically the same in this show, no tragedy just a guy who lies through his teeth. Worked in Harley, but that was played for laughs.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

I wasn’t too fond of that show since it ended up replacing the Green Lantern animated series show, but one thing I will give to it was the interesting twist on Alfred going from a proper gentleman butler to a Cockney bodyguard. It was an interesting new take on the character and I appreciated that.

[@MediaGhost_]

There's actually a show about Gotham's PD which focuses on Gordon and the rest of the GCPD while having Batman as a side-character. It's called Gotham...

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

It kind of goes all over the place at times

[@Clonekiller66]

And it was a great show

[@jlev1028]

I think he alluded to the show in the video the same way he referenced Beware the Batman.

[@inky5574]

It was good but rough at some parts. Riddler was fucking awesome and the kid whom played Bruce was phenomenal.

[@ruleofoz2207]

Or as I like to call it:, The "What can we turn Barbara into next?!" show.

[@JakeJakers]

Just watch Brave and The Bold instead. It's unironically funny, and still has it's emotional episodes (Chill of the Night especially)

[@kanemccarthy1979]

Seeing Mr Enter tackle Caped Crusader makes me want to see him review Avengers EMH considering he put it at number 1 on his best theme songs list.

[@animezilla4486]

Me too

[@Lugbzurg]

That video was how I even found out the show *existed.* Had to check it out ASAP after that. I was completely surprised.

[@juliusnepos6013]

Yeah

[@andykishore]

Same.

[@ssj4jason737]

Honestly I kinda wanna see him review X-Men Evolution

[@cyanmanta]

Why is nobody talking about it? The same reason nobody is talking about any show anymore. Because the binge model of streaming doesn't work when you're trying to keep a show going longer than ten episodes.

[@nathanblevins158]

Same with invincible or Hazbin hotel or any of primes shows. They don’t talk about them any more. They only want to insult them.

[@aaronfield7899]

Why doesn't that work?

[@nathanblevins158]

@@aaronfield7899 because people today unfortunately when I see like to put the negativity to the max level instead of putting there opinions. Let put in a little sentence Basically there are people that have there opinions and respect people who like something that not good. While people think that there opinion are fact and it bad because it bad. Especially shows from original stream services That what I mean.

[@aaronfield7899]

@@nathanblevins158 oh so you were being sarcastic? Sorry I didn't notice

[@nathanblevins158]

@@aaronfield7899 in some ways yes. Yes I was

[@ivanbluecool]

It's got good ideas with having a half dark half wacky type of situation like Catwoman actually getting in trouble for stealing Don't like what they did with Harley Quinn. Could have been some new oc character with how different she is as a whole.

[@casketbase7750]

12:21 This feels like a bit from Velma. No show should aspire to be like Velma. I'd be very interested to see Enter do a video on the plague of Bathos in modern writing.

[@aldomeylano9278]

Blame Joss Whedon out all of this even if I like Bathos to an extent

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

I think its more Masters Of The Universe Revelations of great animation connected to a bait and switch centred around side characters than the title character

[@Next0gen0]

The Idea of reversing Harvey Dent's story and turning him from a bad guy into a good guy, is actually really interesting and has alot of potential of handled well. Too bad they didn't and it's irrelevant now. GG.

[@jemdemonbelle2097]

100% agree. if they'd made him an asshole, who's amoral code pushed one of his victims into crime, which resulted in him being burned with acid by said victim; thus making him realize he's hurt genuinly innocent people to the point of making them corrupt, thus causeing more problems. Then I feel this would have been a good idea. but they didn't do that. they chickened out just before the punch.

[@Next0gen0]

@@jemdemonbelle2097 Exactly! And he could be a good sidekick to Batman from time to time, as he's exploring the depth's of underworld crime. Struggling with being his old self (ruthless and uncaring), and his new self holding him back from going over the line. Batman would accept his help from time to time, but he struggle's with him because unlike Batman, he doesn't have as strong a moral code. Gladly leaving people to die, and hurting them and going too far. Making you realize just how easy it could be for Bruce to go over the line at anytime. How Can Paid Writer's Not Think Of These Things!

[@jemdemonbelle2097]

@@Next0gen0 it has so much potential. Fanfic writers are doing so much more with media these days.

[@aquelgamermexicano]

On paper it's actually quite clever IMO. The usual shtick is that Dent went from positive to negative, the struggle, while complex, is technically the basic foundation of the villain with an argument. "The world hurt me, now i want to hurt the world back". However, going the other way around, you essentially have a somewhat complex redemption arc. There's no denying that getting half your face burned, would change your perception of the world, as well as how the world treats you, but the struggle of someone trying to do good after being an asshole for so long, is at least a story worth considering. It would make his debates even more tragic, leaving his chance to be good or to relapse at the flip of a coin, rather than the idea of leaving luck decide HOW MUCH is he allowed to be an asshole. Since most of the time, the flip of the coin doesn't even make him a good person, just decide how evil he wants to be. And considering they end the show on a cliffhanger, it makes me wonder why kill off characters at all. They clearly had the intention of keeping the show going, why cut your resources anyway? It feels odd for them to kill Two-Face, or any villain for that matter, unless they only had the vision of one season.

[@jemdemonbelle2097]

@@aquelgamermexicano the problem lies in it's execution. How do you show a struggle like that without it being forced or feeling hamfisted. I think one way to go about it would be to have hin try and live a quiet life away from people, but with his past constantly at his heels as he tries to do better. The temptation of his past as well as his persecution would definitely make the struggle harder for him. Sort of a hunchback of Notre dame situation? I'm not sure.

[@JustBoredGaming]

I think the reason Harley didn't kidnap Bruce was because she was specifically kidnapping her rich clients who show a clear lack of empathy, but she couldn't find any dirt on Bruce, which made her suspicious of him, but not enough to kidnap him too

[@Victor-qx3vx]

That is exactly the reason, yes.

[@Takisan111]

I think she also didn't kidnap him because he wasn't an actual client. He was only there because he was court ordered to be there. If he went missing, the courts would ask questions.

[@slashbash1347]

I'm just glad Harley Quinn actually looks like, y'know, a jester again. But how does Bruce Timm, of all people, think Batman didn't have enough great villains, female or otherwise? Did he get brain damage?

[@WarmLusamine]

I'm more upset he somehow forgot Babydoll.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Bruce Timm just forget Batman's Villain roster? A normie as me can list off a ton: Joker, The Penguin, Killer Croc, Bane, Clayface, The Ventriloquist, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Twoface, Mr Freeze, Catwoman, Riddler

[@jmann6130]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral not to mention there's several underrated female villains Jane Doe who's a serial killer/ identity thief Lady Shiva who barley gets remembered and Orca who is a more forgettable character but she has the potential to be fascinating as she's an eco tersest who tries to keep a secret identity.

[@eatatjoe]

Baby Doll is my favorite villain in the franchise - her story is so sad.

[@jmann6130]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral what no Ra’s Al Ghoul Talia and Red Hood?

[@FerretWarlord1]

"It claims to be a dark, introspective take on the franchise." Bruh, that's at least ¾ of the franchise!

[@playererror4044]

You know what I'm getting sick of? Batman adaptations that think they're too special or dark or whatever to include the god damn Batfamily. I love seeing the other characters, like Robin 1, 2, 3, 4, Spoiler, Signal, Batgirl 1 and 2. Seriously why would you not do Cassandra Cane in a darker show if you had the option?

[@Rengokuo4o6]

Wow, i hate the Batfamily though and I'm sick of them in the comics. So maybe this is a case of one man's trash is another man's treasure. There shouldn't be 50 sidekicks in a batman show and quite frankly Batman being accompanied by a child on the regular is a stupid concept.

[@justarock6747]

I hate the bat family to man they get rid of the mystery aspect most of the time when you have to follow 5 different guys through the story. Also the villains never feel like threats any more if they are all 1v5ing

[@almightyk11]

And then we have Harley Quinn (the show) that is bold enough to say "Batman is a dumb edgelord, the women are what are really good at being the Batfam"

[@Guyfield20XX]

@@almightyk11 Don’t forget the part where they make Batman, a literal Man-child in the show to make Harley; a child killing murderer good in comparison.

[@almightyk11]

@@Guyfield20XX That's what I was referring to

[@kristofgriffin384]

Wether or not Bruce Timm actually said that Batman doesn't have many female villains, it's still a lazy excuse to genderswap Penguin. Batman has plenty if female antagonists. If they didn't want to use the more well known ones, like Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and Harley Quinn, then fine. But the fact is, they DID use them! So they have no excuses! If they want to use the lesser known ones, there's Magpie, Orca, Madame Zodiac, Tiger Moth, etc. Also, how the hell is this set in the 1940's, but have dark skinned and asian people in positions like police commissioner, therapist, and lawyer? While also having lesbians kiss in public, without having their livelihoods destroyed because of it. They can't eat their cake and have it. You can't just set it in the 40's without also showing the darker aspects of that time period, like racism and sexism. This show is beyond pathetic.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Um, its the DC Universe, and potentialyl may have had a different history than our own.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

it's a fictional universe although having the show tackling those problems could have been interesting.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@malikpierre-louis3343 True, but, depending on the adaptation, the DC Universe is more egalitarian

[@Rtotalmagic]

They seem to be going with the idea of the Gordons and Montoya having to deal with more "modern" forms of racism (having to work twice as hard and getting fewer "second chances") but that's kind of undermined by turning the overarching villain Detective Flass into an African American. If the Gordons have to maintain such a high standard, how can Flass get away with so much of his more egregious behavior? Why would a lout like Bullock be so willing to team up with him?

[@Umbra_Ursus]

They could always have Joker fight Red Skull again. Timeline-wise, it'd fit.

[@thecabbageman1]

To be fair the Penguin doesn't always have appearance as a a motivation. Some times he's just an old school mobster. That's where they focused here.

[@feelgoodfandom5353]

If there going for old school mobster why be so blatantly cartoonishly evil it borders on incompetent she had a freaking cannon in her ship thag she fires in sight of the coast guard dirty cops be damned how’s she not busted?

[@petermj1098]

Penguin is an evil version of Bruce Wayne’s wealth used wrong.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

@@feelgoodfandom5353She was busted though. She got arrested at the end of the episode.

[@feelgoodfandom5353]

@@Victor-qx3vx the woman had been firing off blasts from her yacht multiple times how did she make it this far is what I might but that’s my bad I wasn’t clear sorry lol.

[@O-possum-k1i]

Sometimes he's a thief, a corrupt rich man, sewer mutant, or a gangster. He's not very consistent

[@Tavdogg11]

When Murder Drones and Gravity Falls is willing to kill children more than your Batman show, you legit aren't a dark show. Good job. Claps for you. 👏

[@DDarkestKnight]

Gravity Falls didn't kill any kids

[@Kywriter475]

@@DDarkestKnight The Gravity Falls mayor died.Unless you mean murder and not of old age.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@DDarkestKnight I think they mean attempted killing?

[@DDarkestKnight]

@@chrisdiokno5600 That wouldn't make sense since Natalia attempted to kill those kids

[@board-qu9iu]

@ilove2draw322I mean what makes it not for kids? Maybe it’s aimed at a more teen audience but it still generally on par with other cartoons

[@rainpooper7088]

To be perfectly fair, as a casual Batman enjoyer, I recognized only like half a dozen names on the female villain list when I can name a ton of male ones from the top of my head. Clearly what they meant is that Batman does not have a lot of *high-profile* villains who *happen to be female* compared to how many of his male villains are instantly recognizable. But ya know what the solution to that is? Do something interesting with the female villains so more people will recognize them! Either adapt some of these currently obscure female comic villains in a way that will stick or come up with your own. You know, like BTAS did. You don't know what do to with the Penguin? Don't waste screentime on the Penguin then. I may not know most of the female villains on that list, but I find it highly unlikely that not a single one of them is interesting enough for an entire writing staff to think of something. I'd blame it on executives not wanting to take chances with characters who aren't popular already, but if they put the sound effects guy in, there's really no excuse.

[@regiman222]

Exactly, if they can attempt to spotlight Onomatopeia, they can grab one of Batman's many lesser known female rouges, and showcase them in this series, instead of gender bending an already established character.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

I mean… That’s exactly what this show did to Nocturna. A different take that was interesting and made more people know about the obscure character she is.

[@tayojones9460]

@Victor-qx3vx One obscure female villain. What about Magpie? Or White Rabbit? Or the Mime? They could have even invented a few new female villains instead of pointlessly gender swapping a well known male villain just for attention!!!!!

[@Kreiser_VII]

Oh god that Penguin section was basically like when some people said "Final Fantasy needs black representation. Barret doesn't count because he's a stereotype/comic relief", when Barret has a properly tragic backstory like Cloud, perhaps the most noble motivation, is consistently a support to his team and a driving force even when in doubt. Both his strengths and his flaws, from jolly demeanor to short temper, give him depth... And is also arguably the best and most versatile character in the entire game, gameplay-wise. What I'm getting at is THEY SURE LOVE TO TALK SMACK ABOUT SHIT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

If a Batman show these weirdoes crave for needs more representation, perhaps they shouldn't use the ancient decade of the 40s to do it?

[@bolbyballinger]

Also, just gotta point out that the person literally said that they didn't know what to do with the Penguin, so they just genderbent them. Like, that is . . . that is saying the quiet part out loud right there.

[@rainpooper7088]

Yeah, I think I'll just stick to My Adventures with Superman, thank you very much.

[@Takisan111]

I like that series so much. It's adorable.

[@newbiegamelover4767]

Perfect timing. I had just looked into my subscription box just as this was posted.

[@leopoldmaximus145]

J J Abrams name means nothing to me anymore, especially after his involvement in the Star Trek and Star Wars movies. Bruce Timm also deserves some blame too after claiming Batman has a lack of good female villains

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Batman-early on in his career-is usually a bit more ruthless and cold. That doesn't explain the Kid in the burning room, but it does track with the intimidation tactics.

[@Aardie_Aardwolf]

Onomatopoeia is an interesting choice, cause his gimmick is in his name.

[@Rtotalmagic]

But it's a gimmick that becomes tiresome pretty quickly...

[@Aardie_Aardwolf]

@@Rtotalmagic Mainly cause the shows mediocre. (If you don't want to be compared towards your inspiration, then put in better effort despite your budget.)

[@O-possum-k1i]

@@Aardie_Aardwolf He was what I was most excited for too. Too bad they kind of wasted him. Harvey's arc was great though

[@ivanbluecool]

Batman tas the batman cartoon and batman batb Batman beyond are top tier shows with batman. Also love how they take batman in how he ends up. Tas to beyond he's alone because he's very hard on himself and others. The batman he learned to trust his allies early and even taught superman to make friends which ends up with still having night wing and Oracle at an old age before retirement Batman brave and the bold was campy but in a fun way to celebrate the silver age.

[@NintendoMeister2260]

I’m glad someone shed some light on ‘The Batman.’ That show was criminally underrated.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@NintendoMeister2260 oh definitely. Most compare it to batman tas because of mark hamil but honestly the batman has its own great characters and revamps of old ones like riddler. Clay face. Even joker. But I think best part seeing it as an adult was how batman learned early to care about his allies that really shaped him as a person compared to tas who lost so many chances to be happy as the cowl is heavy

[@khoid]

A ghost photobombing Harvey Dent's press conference is why he has to go corrupt and become two face. Gordon doesn't report Bollock (who is corrupt in this show) for taking a prisoner out of jail without authorization who then escaped, set fire to an apartment building and was then killed by Bollock. Bollock is hailed as a hero despite this obvious paper trail indicating it was his fault to begin with. Catwoman is unable to free herself from being cuffed to a table leg. The table is not nailed to the floor. I'm not making this up, the story in caped crusader is so bad it's almost parody.

[@ABoredYoutuber]

Report him to who? The corrupt mayor who said to let bullock and flask take over the task force because of how good a job they did?

[@tophatgaming1873]

dent was already corrupt the thing about corruption is that facts don't really matter, it's made clear several times in the show that gordon is powerless to stop what bullock and flass do would you be able to move a table by yourself? all of your points are easily counteracted if you actually watch the show

[@chunkyking8225]

I don’t know if it was just me but It felt like Batman was a side character in his own show

[@toonboy2041]

Considering the fact I heard that it was originally supposed to be for Cartoon Network’s ACME Night block before the Discovery buyout, that could explain the not as dark tone as we were expecting.

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

7:39 As a comics fan, I understand this Batman is based on the golden age. Thus, the rough edges. BUT the show poorly explains this to audiences which is terrible

[@tyrannozilla]

I would've had it that the female Penguin was one of many Penguin imposters hired to do some of his crimes while he was in hiding. By doing this, Batman and the Police would have a hard time figuring out who was the real Penguin, thereby allowing him to get away with crime and continue building his Empire.

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

Hell... there's a good joke to be made that Mrs. Trunchbull from Matilda in a Penguin suit getting this job off being ugly enough to look like the Penguin in an action scene. You can then drop an episode later for her to not just rise up to the occasion for the Penguin's entourage but to play off the same energy Penguin trying to go straight in TAS had, only for her to be an actually legitimate companion to The Penguin and make a tragic comedy that in another world, these two could make for an actually happy couple were it not for their mistreatment by others due to how they looked. "I strive to be the best I can at what I do and make others do the same Batman. Some days I wish it wasn't crime, but most days people remind me of why I prefer it that way." -Mrs. Penguin, in a good show.

[@chazarcola7639]

​MR. AND MRS. COBBLEPOTT. Great idea. Actually there was a "Female Penguin" in the 1960s Adam West TV show : Ethel Merman as Lola Lasagne the parasol wielding paramour of Burgess Meredith.

[@xaayer]

It's funny how the original, "made for kids", show actually had the balls to shoot Gordon while this "adult" show did not. I watched the series and each episode I had a gripe with. This season had 10 episodes, 4 of which I enjoyed, of which 3 I'd *maybe* watch again, of which 2 deserved better, of which 1 fumbled its ending. Overall, 3/10. The writing is subpar, the focus on the side characters while trying to show too much of Batman was terrible (either focus on the side characters for good and keep Batman a mystery we see through the eyes of the side characters, or have Batman actually be the main character), and the art direction is... not good. Batman's side profile is goofy with is slight overbite, flat face and triangle nose. The lack of hard shadows KILLS what should be dramatic shots. Every scene is lit one of two ways: slightly dark colors to vaguely simulate night time, or light with one level of drop shadow on the characters. There are so many shots of Batman that would have benefitted from him just being a silhouette with white eyes but instead you see the whole character model. Overall, I have so much about the show that I don't like but I don't hate the show. I'm just let down.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Even pre Goliath chronicles Gargoyles had Elisa getting shot by accident because Broadway foolishly played a loaded gun pretending to act a gunslinger. Obviously they dont show the full scene but you hear a gunshot and one of the next scenes is a shot of Elisas legs lying on the ground i dicating yeah, he played stupid

[@Fanofmanything25]

I think you should make a new series called "Mixed Animation" when you talk about shows that you find to be mediocre or a mixed bag.

[@Jaceblue04]

"Your bad guys die your good guys survive." I get that Epic Rap Battles of History isn't meant to be taken seriously, but I fail to see how "the bad guy dies and the good guy lives" is in any way a bad thing.

[@O-possum-k1i]

Exactly! It's not like they're gonna kill Gordan or Barbara in the first season of the show!

[@lightdarksoul2097]

Personally and it's personal preference but I like happy endings

[@Jaceblue04]

​@@lightdarksoul2097 I think MOST of us like happy endings, especially after a decade of shows like Rick and Morty or Bojack Horseman that had some kind lethal allergy to happiness and almost took perverse pride in being misery pr0n.

[@kbowman772]

The reason it is a bad thing is because the show is going for a dark tone. You can't really say that when ALL of the good guys survive and all the bad guys get caught. Sure, you don't have to kill main characters, but a likeable side character getting the axe? That would be dark.

[@bluestreaker9242]

It's not a bad thing, no, but this is BATMAN we're talking about: it's like "The Godfather" of comic-book superhero universes...as in we KNOW they're not afraid to kill off characters, be they hero, villain, or something in-between. When there's a real danger of someone dying, be they good OR bad, it creates genuine drama that puts you on the edge of your seat; the ONLY reason you'd do the "and everyone lives at the end" is so you can do a rug-pull much later where someone DOESN'T wind up getting out of it scott-free. I'm not saying you can't have happy endings with Batman, but they feel more genuine when they're earned through serious hardship: it makes those happy endings more like a sigh of relief and can sometimes jerk the tears right out of your eyes, ya know? One of Batman's villains is the leader of the literal freaking mafia, for crying out loud: someone is GOING to get hurt! O.O

[@otaking3582]

Wait, genderbent Penguin is real? I thought it was just meme making fun of Ms Freeze being added to SSKtJL!

[@anarky1765]

I think the reason they included Onomatopoeia is because he looks like he could fit in that universe, like he looks like a mobster from that time period despite the mask and stupid gimmick, kind of like how Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions included Hammerhead in their Noir universe even though he never appeared in the Spider-Man Noir comics. That said, though, I still think Onomatopoeia has one of the dumbest gimmicks in comics, and that includes Condiment King.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Huh, never heard of him before this comment

[@xmoore5659]

​@@chrisdiokno5600Badum-Tssh.

[@thevisitor1012]

Wow Hammerhead never appeared in the Noir comics? He was my favourite level too.

[@amonner2010]

Don’t have your character go to therapy, it only worked two times. Has Enter seen Young Justice? It is arguably the best constructed episode.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

I think people who watched The Sopranos would have something to say about this very particular opinion of his as well.

[@IcyDiamond]

I think it can work when it’s not just the writer telling the audience what a deep character the character is

[@GhostRider6489]

Bruce Timm’s art is amazing, but the 90’s show’s success came from the series other co-creator Paul Dini with Alan Burnett as writers. Without those two, this series feels so hollow

[@michaelbuehler3897]

It's like there's no one key element that makes for a good show.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

“Lack of Paul Dini” is an accurate way of describing my problem with Arkham Knight in comparison to Asylum & City and with Hush in comparison to Heart of Hush.

[@TheAnimalKing]

Are we not gonna talk about how there was a gen z way of talking in some of the dialogue, in a time where gen z didn’t exist.

[@WarmLusamine]

In the literal OCEAN of other garbage, that's barely a banana peel.

[@hussarzwei6223]

Telltale’s Batman is a better reimagining of Batman.

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

I will say, note for the BTAS comparison, the show WAS arguably in mid-territory for the first dozen episodes or so, you had stuff like I've Got Batman in My Basement and The Underdwellers. The first episode produced 'Cat and the Claw' wasn't the best either, and "It's Never Too Late" felt a bit out of place and overly preachy(albeit I think people have grown on this one). Caped Crusader has 10 episodes. The first 10 or so BTAS episodes weren't great either. (Two Face was 11th and was really the point the show stood out, though the exact episodes depend on if you go by airing order or production. As I noted above, mixed batch). It's not failing to be a BTAS level show because BTAS wasn't at the level most people think it was that early on, it needed to find it's footing a bit, settle on a tone, replace Alfred's VA.

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

(Also, Edgy Reboot isn't really fair in this context. If he had made the other choice he'd be trying to copy and one up BTAS directly and I don't think that would have gone over well. Being inspired by it and taking it in a different direction seems safer and more interesting)

[@jlev1028]

Not a good excuse. BTAS had 20+ episodes per season. And despite having some weak ones, it was overall beloved. This falls under the dumb 10 episode rule and about half of the season were nothing to write home about. If a whole season is in mid territory, that's a problem.

[@mr.alucardrules4956]

The batman from 2004 was a great addition to batman that had great new characters like ellen yin and ethan bennet(whose story is still heartbreaking to this day) as well as a great new rendition of the riddler

[@robbycooper6787]

20:00 I just thought of a good idea Harvey is awful but the acid gives him a good personality that angers his original one and pushes it over the edge

[@RikouHogashi]

The sheer Disrespect towards one of the best Father Figures AND Hard Workers of DC, Alfred is inexcusable we need Paul Dini back if he's still with us that is

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

A lot if excuses are made for it and the most notable is that "Bruce had an arc and learned to call Alfred by his real name to show he now respects him more!"

[@RikouHogashi]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral like the video said we don't want a start from Zero story when it comes to Batman even IF it's meant to be character development for Bruce he was never that disrespectful to Alfred in every other batman story that's not the fresh perspective we all want

[@TheChosenMoose01]

The worst part is Batman Arkham Origins did the whole 'angry Batman' 100 times better than the show. He never got angry with Alfred until Alfred tried stopping him at the midway point of the story, and even then, he always showed loved to Alfred, wishing him a Merry Christmas despite all that goes down.

[@broodwars64]

Well, it's not like Bruce Timm is a stranger to making terrible Batman animated production in the last decade. *Glares at Batman & Harley Quinn, as well as The Killing Joke* Can't say I expected quality from him at this point after years of fetish material masquerading as movies.

[@FanSeitz]

Killing Joke is a masterpiece compared to Caped Crusader and Batman & Harley Quinn (though Melissa Rauch wasn't a terrible Harley Quinn, problem was the dialogue).

[@theforgottenstarwarscharacter]

The only bad thing about the Killing Joke movie imo is the first 45 minutes (I understand that it is a lot of time) with Batgirl, but the rest of the movie is just the comic but animated

[@WarmLusamine]

I liked Batman & Harley Quinn, though.

[@FanSeitz]

@@WarmLusamine It was a soft 6/10 movie.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

@@FanSeitzAgree to disagree. Killing Joke couldn’t even get Joker’s emotions right during his monologue.

[@theforgottenstarwarscharacter]

If they wanted to make a darker show than TAS, then they should have used some of the darker villains, like Proffesor Pyg, Victor Zsasz, etc.

[@UltimateDragonX99999]

I really hope that caped crusader becomes even better to improve on once season 2 finally gets released as it has so much potential.

[@hookedonphoenix3112]

It really bugs me that seemingly EVERY action/superhero show now has to be serialized. The dirty little secret is that serialized shows are easier to write than episodic ones because you can just fill episodes with drips of plot progression for the 3+ “interconnected storylines” you’re doing without really having a self-contained story in each show. Just like with fluid cell animation, I guess the talent needed to write good one-off stories just isn’t around anymore, which is a real shame.

[@josephkeen7224]

@@hookedonphoenix3112 the problem with most one off stories is that they can’t really retain character development because you can’t change the status quo, and because a lot of shows that focus on one offs have bad pacing if they aren’t comedies.

[@BlueKey962]

7:42 In the Son of batman movie, that is how Damien Wayne acts towards Alfred, also calling him by last name.

[@cheeze4brains948]

It reminded me of the 90's Batman cartoon...but makes me want to rewatch that series instead of this.

[@Channeleven2345789]

Honestly Caped Crusader feels like a desperate attempt to win back fan favor after the DC Extended Universe dried up, by just taking what people liked in the past with little thought to how it can work properly.

[@PhillipClearman]

Where's all the new ideas? Why does everything have to be a reboot?

[@lightdarksoul2097]

Uhh go indie?

[@jonjl96]

@@lightdarksoul2097Going indie sounds nice, but it’s a pretty huge risk. For every indie cartoon show that’s a success, there’s like a million of them that go nowhere or fail. Most animators want to do cool, creative shit, but they need to eat and earn money to pay the bills. Going indie doesn’t guarantee that, but working in a system does (even if it sucks for one reason or another).

[@Victor-qx3vx]

@@jonjl96Yes but there is indie stuff out there. I think the comment above was meant as “consume more indie stuff” instead of “go and become an independent creator”.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

Also: this show isn’t really a reboot. It simply got someone who worked on a previous animated series and marketed itself as “We’ll make stuff in this show we weren’t allowed to do on that other show at the time.”

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

In eastern media. I'm not gonna act like they don't do it too but they still do new stuff and they make it work. They're also not beholden to a vocal online minority

[@marbles8641]

The Interrogation scene, that is directly out of modern Batman comics, and sadly "Tame" compared to them. It's become a joke, and even parody it in the latest issue of Wonder Woman (WW 2023 #12), where Diana and Damien make a bet they can get Captain Boomerang to talk first. Diana through love and compassion, and Damien through his father's methods, which boils down to dangling Boomerang over various dangerous traps (Outside a plane, over Sharks, over a giant industrial fan....)

[@JakeFrost-e6w]

Honestly, I like the idea of Oswalda, my issue is she's trying to replace the og penguin. I honestly wanna see that design return in a future iteration where The Penguin is the head of an actual crime family. He could even have kids/family members with names like other species of penguin like Little Blue or Royal penguins. I think that'd be awesome!

[@draketheduelist]

"J.J. Abrams worked on it." (*painfully sucking wind*) Oooohhh... I think I get why people don't like this one, chief. Abrams' career has aged like a banana. This appears to be no exception. The funny thing is the negative reviews I've seen (mostly revolving around Rule 63 Penguin) make the show look _better._ I assure you, people _are_ talking about it. Especially after the unceremonious disposal of The Acolyte and Rings 2 still waiting in the wings.

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

10:43 They did this, it's called Gotham Central.

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

Fun fact: the "Batman does not use guns" rule came about when the owners of The Shadow, of who Batman is a ripoff, complained too much. The later "Batman does not kill" is an even stupider rule that later writers made up because more stupid rules equals more better. In original DCAU their Batman would TRY not to kill, but Bruce Wayne did not believe the world would end if he accidentally does.

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

I want to like this show. The art deco design is like a proper throwback to the original but it seems to lack the "chunkiness" of the original design. The 40s setting really opens up the show to old school detective work. But it still feels like a waste of potential in some places. And yeah, the original Batman cartoon had that 40s looking setting but it was still thoroughly set in the 90s. And it worked. So why does this show doesn't work?

[@andykishore]

I saw a clip of this and thought the animation looked pretty good. Happy to see you make a video on this.

[@chasethehuman8465]

For 1 split second, I thought the female penguin was the Penguin's sister and we were going to get some sibling rivalry crime dynamics. "I can steal that quicker than you" "I stole this and you didn't" I'll kill Batman before you, blah blah blah. But that would be a good idea that took a whole split second. Lol

[@regiman222]

2:06 and even THAT version of him used the Animate Series' backstory for Freeze, even if the character himself was a lot hammier.

[@LooneyCartoonMan]

13:17 That is the show's version of the Gentleman Ghost

[@NintendoMeister2260]

Why is he dressed like a pirate? Nearly every Genlemen Ghost adaptation has had him dressed like, you know, a gentlemen. You could tell me this is the ghost of Christopher Columbus and I’d believe it.

[@josephkeen7224]

I will say that I’m not entirely against the idea of Batman Killing people, since in his first incarnation he actually did kill people (his no kill rule is because of introducing robin and the comics code, although I do think his no kill rule is omportant due to the fact that he’s a vigilante), but in this incarnation he supposedly has his rule but ducks up in the ways that you describe. I will say that from what I’ve seen of the golden age comics he still cares for others and things like the treatment of Alfred doesn’t feel right in that count ether.

[@Lugbzurg]

The no-kill rule was established *less than a year* after the Batman IP as a whole came into existence. It's also what Batman-creator, Bill Finger, wanted in the first place, but some executive meddling messed with things for the first few months. Heck, it was established before Gotham City even had it's name yet.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@Lugbzurg Plus while he used guns and killed people, it was still a rarity even then. IIRC he only used a gun like, once really against a vampire

[@lmrpirate5273]

@@chrisdiokno5600 And considering his backstory, it's likely just because that weapon reminds him of what happened to his parents. If they were slashed with a knife instead, I bet he'd be hesitant to wield sharp, steel objects.... You know, I think I just thought of a remix or "fresh take" of Batman where Bruce's parents get stabbed to death instead of gunned down, causing Bruce to not want to use sharp weapons without a very good reason, but being more likely to use guns (or more specifically, his own brand that shoots stuff designed to knock people out instead of go through them like bullets) as a trade-off. It's fresh, it's a relatively small change, and it could add to some action scenes if executed properly....... If executed properly..............

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@lmrpirate5273 Maybe a gas pistol of some kind? But could be interesting

[@adhamwashere5320]

I find it funny that this show has a middling response given that xmen 97 was universally loved

[@daltonanderson3718]

This reeks of them just wanting to remake the DCAU series and just have Timm give cliffnotes instead of actually watching the show.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

That's because Paul Dini had that shit on lock.

[@Dilbert1999]

Genderswapping Penguin is dumb and unnecessary.

[@O-possum-k1i]

They did something with it at least with her killing her son in cold blood. It wouldn't have the same impact if it was a father Penguin killing one of his sons

[@DDarkestKnight]

It was smart and necessary. A showgirl turned crime lord who isn't above killing her kids? That sets the tone for something great

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

If only thry had done something with it... but out of all the character changes, hers is the least annoying one

[@TomSig]

@@DDarkestKnightshut up shill

[@Victor-qx3vx]

@@TheBlueArmageddonThere’s nothing annoying in Nocturna’s changes as far as I’m concerned. I liked this new version of her quite a lot.

[@michaelbuehler3897]

J.J. Abrams, of course it's going to be a bad rehash.

[@devonjeffers5898]

J.J. can't do a project for shit.

[@JuanGomez-ke5py]

Wondering why he still get a job

[@jellyfishjones4741]

I think their idea behind female Penguin could really be cool in a much better show. And also perhaps a continuity that makes more and better use of that kind of extreme reimagining to forge an identify for itself, rather than how this show was just vague in that area. I was really intrigued by this show drawing from the 30s-inspired aesthetics that the 90s cartoon used, but then actually setting it around that era. As well as the point of drawing inspiration from the comics of that time. But then it doesn't really go anywhere with that or emphasize it outside a few minor aspects. The Harley Quinn episode was really cool and I liked how they emphasized her therapist side and used it to put a different spin on the character as what she could be like outside her usual kooky characterization... but again, that interpretation really wanted to be on a much better show. It's biggest flaw really is that it's just so mid. Which is too bad. There was a lot of potential. Some of the different character interpretations were cool, but they weren't earned by putting them in a quality show overall.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

If the first rule of Batman is that he doesn’t kill, the second rule should be that Bruce doesn’t treat Alferd as lesser or is insulting and mocking towards Alferd, and by default batman respects Alferd for all he does for him, especally because a lot of the time Alferd is his father figure in some continuities. Sure Batman will have moments were he won’t always take on Alferd’s advice (usually in the case of Alferd suggesting rest or eatting meanwhile batman declines due to solving crime) and he seems to ask stuff form Alferd a lot but usually he never belittles him, or makes fun of his name, they have mutual respect for each other.

[@chazarcola7639]

Rather than gender swapping The Penguin, Bruce Timm should have just rewatched the 1960s Adam West TV series and modernized or reimagined one of their many female villains.

[@Dimensioneer88]

If the Batman franchise gets any darker, we're just gonna watching a black screen for 30-90 minutes.

[@Lyth13]

Why is this version of the Penguin called the penguin? She’s not ridiculed for her looks nor does she seem to have any sort of affinity for penguins or even birds in general. I suppose her club is called “the iceberg” but that seems to be about all there is. Apparently Two-Face doesn’t have his coin either

[@heavyweaponsguy6284]

Why was the thumbnail ERB's JRR Martin saying "All your bad guys die and your good guys survive, we can tell what's gonna hppen by page and age 5!"?

[@silvanalucas6403]

The bad side of two faces face looks like Like how people have been adapting Juni ito comics to anime . If you know you know

[@Victor-qx3vx]

I like that the scarred side of his face is frozen in a “sad” expression of sorts. Makes sense as a choice since the scarred side is the remorseful one. That said, I didn’t like what they’ve done to Harvey in this show.

[@andrewgilbertson6534]

It would have been really cool if they had gone the other way with two face and made him a disgusting, corrupt asshole who gets his comeuppance and learns that being a bad person is actually a bad thing. However, he's unable to shake his awful nature because change is incredibly hard despite attempting to do good things. The finale of his arc could be him commiting the ultimate good deed and sacrificing himself for someone else. Two birds with one stone, killing off a character and giving a fresh take with an established character. Assuming they put in the work

[@syppy7416]

Caped Crusader is pretty much My Adventures With Superman but worse like yeah, both shows change a lot of stuff about their respective heroes' mythos, but with MAWSM the changes actually feel like something the artists wanted to do and not just stuff they were required to, like I have nothing against The Penguin being a woman but the fact her name is "Oswalda" kind of screams "we had to do this" and also MAWSM portrays the whole beginner years thing a lot better, because I get Caped Crusader is supposed to be a less experienced Batman (what with the lack of care for a lot of stuff) but he really doesn't give off those vibes at all, he seems like he's been Batmanning for a while

[@comic_zed]

Fun fact. Onomatopoeia isn't even a Batman Villain. He's a Green Arrow Villain. Same with Gentleman Ghost. He's a Hawkman Villain.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

Clock King was also a Green Arrow villain, but first time I saw him was in BTAS.

[@josephkeen7224]

Except Onimonipa is something that can easily fit into Gotham, and I can see the same for Gentlemen Ghost (Batman has taken on vampires before, so why not?), and from my understanding green arrow was originally seen as a Batman knock off, so if that’s true I can see his villains working in Batman.

[@toganium4175]

I almost thought this video would be on the Beware the Batman cartoon instead.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Can we please just get a half decent animated adaptation of the Batfamily already like seriously cmon they are one of the most popular aspects of the modern batman mythos and they are barely used at all outside of the comics

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

I'm currently watchint The Batman (2004) and it seems a bit more interesting in some respects, though the 1940s setting here is nice.

[@SiniRaita]

20:35 Never watched the show, so this is just a theory. From things that you said this came in into my mind: Burning the wrong side of Dent´s face made him from apathetic to more empathetic in reverse in what happened in every other media . This might be saiyng that that burning Harvey´s face was not the thing that made him evil, but the trauma or acid affecting his brain . I thought this has something to do with both sides of the brain affecting one´s personality differently. Violent outbursts aren´t gone, they are just different than other shows.

[@SJ_RANKS]

I’m more of a Spider-Man dude but I occasionally enjoy Batman and I tried watching it on prime video and I just couldn’t get into it. It just didn’t have the same wow factor as invincible or the boys

[@IbilisSLZ]

Well, the answer why it's low quality remake is in like your second sentence: It's attached to J.J. Abrams, the guy who makes unneeded continuations with random changes.

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

It's pretty mid, which was disappointing because Matt Reeves is on this show and he did a pretty cool interpretation of Batman, making him just be this creep who underneath all that angst and anger legitimately wants to do good. Hamish Linklater as Batman is...just OK. I like his Bruce, though. Two-Face had the opportunity to be good (I liked how his episode focused on the sides of his face when he did good or bad actions) but he died before realizing what they could do with him. It just seemed like it TRIED to be unique but were afraid to stray away from the path we already know.

[@JeremyBowen-c5f]

it's sad that recent reboots have strong writing from Animaniacs to Tiny Toons University and even Power Rangers Dino Fury

[@EurostarzDynasty]

Honestly, not knowing what to do with Penguin is... Illogical? The character has been used in many ways throughout the years, Gotham did so much with him and the new Max show is all about him and a female member of the rogue gallery (I also think they might have gotten the idea of Bruce's relationship with Alfred from the Battinson movie which was a bad choice imo). But also, considering the time period... Really? If you decided to make Penguin a woman, first off don't throw away how important family is to the character and, second, having an "ugly" mafia queen during a time of obvious sexism and the fact that male criminals were the ones who were known and respected... If you already thought there was a lack of women in the rogue list... Why not make that a focal point of a character who wants money, power, respect, and recognition? Missed opportunity.

[@Clonekiller66]

Hey. Do you know what you do when you cant find a female character to fit the role you want? You invent your own new female character. Create a new evil female gangster for your new batman story.

[@LooneyCartoonMan]

3:36 It is inspired by the DCAU and the comics mixed with the DC Nation short "Batman: Strange Days" (which was followed up after "Uncle Jokes" from "Teen Titans Go!").

[@captain_crook1993]

Sending your main character to therapy has only worked twice? What about The Sopranos, Enter?

[@jlev1028]

Do you think this guy would be the kind to watch a 25 year old show about mobsters?

[@Killgore114]

You expect him to watch good media that doesn't have a soundtrack to rip from