Something To Wrestle

On this episode of Something To Wrestle, Bruce and Conrad discuss the life and careers of WWE Hall of Famers, Hawk and Animal, The Legion Of Doom. The guys discuss their time coming up in the wrestling business and becoming one of the most influential tag teams in the history of the business.
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[@tthomaselli2]

Will Bruce Prichard & Conrad Thompson ever record a podcast, again the way they did when they talked about TNA, John Cena, Paul Heyman, Jim Cornette, C.M. Punk, 'WWF WrestleMania 4', Steve Austin's mid-2002 walk-out from the WWE & 'ECW On Sci-Fi', for example?... It literally doesn't sound the same hearing a podcast like this compared to their older episodes as far as how they were recorded/etc., in my opinion.

[@brandonford4474]

I’m a Big Bruce Prichard fan, & have been supporting this show for the past 5yrs, with that being said, he is now shamelessly insulting the intelligence of his audience, maybe he’s not aware that millions of people are aware & it’s public knowledge that WWF strong armed the PPV companies with the ultimatum “them or us” planning a PPV on the same day, which was already well established by the competition. It doesn’t make sense to lie & pretend this didn’t happen,

[@thechosenones4375]

That WHOLE conversation about Survivor Series and Starcade 🤣 Bruce is ridiculous

[@jimsalina9290]

I don't understand the big deal to admit they were trying to stop WCW. That's business. That maybe the company line(they did closed circuit not pay per view), but it's no big deal if that was the case. Nobody at this day and age gives a tinkers damn if that was the truth. Who is gonna rear up on you? Please Bruce, explain it to me.

[@chriskyber1233]

I'm done with this podcast after that. I know he's a WWE guy, and I know it's not a "serious' Podcast, but after that, I can't believe a word he say anything. I'm unsubscribing to the podcast.

[@delbertprince5302]

Rest In Peace Road Warriors

[@ROSTAFA]

Starts at 5:28

[@D2Kprime]

@13:17 The idea of the "Legion Of Doom" actually came from the Hanna-Barbera *_Challenge Of The Superfriends_* cartoon. Based in the DC universe, you had the heroes which were the Justice League Of America, and the Legion Of Doom which were the enemies. Hawk actually was kinda goofing-around impersonating the announcer of the cartoon (Ted Knight) who would famously-say when cutting to a scene with JLA, "Meanwhile.....at the Hall Of Justice..." That was the genesis of idea behind the concept. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH2bmpJ3o7-EZ5o

[@Zebojr2kool]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story

[@kamalaswallows2024]

13:17 Jake Roberts didn't originate the phrase either. He copped it from the DC Comic Universe. The Legion of Doom were the antagonists of the Superfriends. #TheMoreYouKnow🌈

[@Nostalgia9478]

For a guy who embraced competing head to head so much, Vince sure whined a lot about Turner when Nitro went head to head with Raw

[@ericjackson7632]

That stuff about Crockett was manure. Survivor Series 1987 had nothing to do with anything? 👌

[@calvinperson9732]

I like Bruce but Mid -Atlantic was always a respected area that guys loved working n WWF may have been promoted better on a business scale . The action was never better . From 1974-1986 the in ring work and angles ran circles around Vince . And he definitely sabotaged the pay per view by demanding they don't offer it or risk losing WM .

[@henrikschmidt3964]

Goddamn, Bruce is such a sycophant. Vince sabotaged Crockett, end of story. I was not illegal just unethical. Oh and the 'Rocco' gimmick was of 'Lost in Cleveland' levels.

[@alexloyola4695]

The Survivor Series conversation just shows you how much Bruce believes his own lies. It’s embarrassing. Just say, “Yes, we were making it harder for the PPV companies to carry Starcade, because we would not allow them to carry WrestleMania.” It’a a smart tactic. Just admit it.

[@nbaldwin45]

Or to use Bruce's own argument, 'it's just business'

[@neilefc877]

re: Survivor Series/Starrcade debate Conrad is surprisingly subdued here. I was waiting for him to explode like he does when Eric starts telling pork pies.

[@toochangz]

Conrad acts like he's the one that worked in the business for the past 40 years

[@danhausendanhausen4641]

He thinks because he read all Meltzers crap he knows everything about wrestling 😂

[@secondbest2877]

He knows a lot about the business….what’s wrong with that?

[@secondbest2877]

And has like 100 different wrestling podcasts with Former Pro Wrestlers so I’d say he’s up there with knowledge…..you sound lame trying to troll him

[@NickTaylorRickPowers]

His father in law is Ric flair I think he stuck his dick in more business than any of us ever will

[@datacipher]

@@secondbest2877moreover in this podcast without his pushback and narrative you’d have nothing but nonsense rhetoric from the child-like mind of Bruce. If you push Bruce and even just let him talk, he debunks himself to those who listen critically.

[@nbaldwin45]

God, that conversation about Starrcade vs Survivor Series - Conrad has way more patience than I do. Bruce relies on bleating the same old pro-Vince argument louder and louder until the other guy gives in. What was Bruce's opinion on Eric moving Nitro to Mondays to take the fight to Raw? Was he just giving the audience a choice or was that sabotage? Good to see Conrad's still not scared of calling Bruce on his bullshit anyway and that he caught him out on the Demolition being Road Warriors clones. Big guys - check. Facepaint - check. Spikes and chains - check. Of course they were Road Warriors ripoffs, even if they were actually better wrestlers.

[@ididthisonpulpous6526]

Several times on several issues Conrad gently called BS on Bruce lying. They weren't mistakes either. Every time it was Bruce sucking Vince's dick. Can't stand guys in the business lying to prop themselves, or in this case secondhand propping up WWF/E and Vince. Weak. Appreciate, even if gently, that Conrad called him out.

[@randylynch4330]

Demolition wasn't a rip off...Power of Pain were the rip offs

[@marknadratowski5728]

It was definitely personal for Vince with Verne. Also, Vince tried to sabotage the first Starcade by bribing Harley Race to no show the event.

[@secondbest2877]

😂100%….NO other reason to compete on the same night unless he was trying to sabotage the event.

[@davidfrederick6003]

Okay PRICHARD! Now DENY that Vince threatened PPV companies if they carry the JCP starrcade show, they will NOT get WM4. Thats a NEWS FACT Conrad used a great word. Vince "STRONG-ARMED" the PPV companies.

[@davidfrederick6003]

@@BMGplaythroughs The lack of money from ppv to JCP because of lack of ppv companies being demanded by McMahon not to carry

[@OmegaRedFan]

I love you Brother Love! You care about your fans!

[@RealAlphaDrum]

it's crazy to think Animal suffered a 4 year back injury which is the same amount of time HBK was gone.

[@davidfrederick6003]

Ole Anderson said when he was searching for new TOUGH GUY tagteam. He called Eddie Sharkey. When Ole met line up of a bunch of muscled guys, he said some looked at him, some said hi how ya doing. But it was "Hawk" that got his attention. "What the fuck are you looking at". He had found his first part of his tag team.

[@OneUltimateWarrior]

Hawk got The Legion Of Doom from Super Friends and the "drunk" angle was Vince McMahon's idea. SOURCE: Animal The Road Warriors book

[@marknadratowski5728]

They'll always be the Road Warriors to me damn it.

[@d-mo733]

I like both equally, but Legion of Doom does sound cooler!

[@Vulcan5911]

I definitely like The Road Warriors better.

[@noname-gp6hk]

I remember them under both names. Legion of Doom and the Road Warriors. My favorite tag team.

[@BDMC07]

"Sunny or the puppet?" "WELL.... the puppet had less hands up it's backside.

[@williammitchell4417]

Oooooohh WHAT A RUSH!!!🙏 RIP Mike and Joe 🙏

[@BEERLIGHTBROKER]

Hawk was the Road Warrior.

[@alextrapp4049]

How do we just skip over Vince taking the doomsday device in a bar lol

[@billpetersheim1343]

Conrad mentioned it

[@warwickben]

Been told a bunch of times on the show

[@_sabathia_5929]

Watch hall of fame speech “Bret hart” he tells the story. 👍

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

I can see Vince now…”Just give it to me guys…I’ll be fine”

[@EXECUTIVEPUNK]

Like someone else said Conrad mentions it

[@mikelois5297]

Love he explained how wrestlers call them right after he said Vince called the road warriors and they turned him down...

[@butch5419]

They def shoulda squashed the headbangers on their return.... def agree with ya Conrad.

[@philwhite8749]

Bruce is making this Impossible to Listen to, So many Questions he Straight Up Lied about or just played Dumb?? WTF

[@markant9534]

56:30 In the early 1980s, in NWA's Georgia Championship Wrestling, Paul Ellering introduced a stable called "The Legion of Doom" that consisted of the Road Warriors, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, The Spoiler, Matt Borne, King Kong Bundy, Arn Anderson, The Iron Sheik and the original Sheik.

[@JT-wc7me]

LOD 2000 w'Sunny could've worked if they'd been heels. DX was on the verge of a babyface turn. Sunny wasn't any help but could've been a plus as a heel manager

[@syring1234]

Wow. Bruce rewriting history here. Everything he says defending Vince is BS. In prior episodes when he is not on the WWE’s payroll he contradicts himself

[@jaycee990]

Wowzers! This so hard to watch when Brucey gets his buttocks so hurt over Vince being accused of running a corporation in America. But at least I “have my clicker”.

[@R-1988]

I also liked the name "Legion of Doom" better because their finish was called "The Doom's Day Device" I thought it was very fitting. I also loved how The Fink introduced them as Road Warrior Hawk and Road Warrior Animal, then following it up with The Legion of Doom. Also, I guess Conrad forgot about the Houston episode because Prichard said it a few times that he did not want to work for Crockett and he also told that to Vince during their phone calls.

[@karlepaul6632]

Road Warriors, my all time favorite tag team

[@OmegaRedFan]

Brother Love is my favorite talk show segment

[@stevew7571]

That Henry goodwinn broken neck was brutal to watch back in the day.

[@strategic1710]

I enjoy listening to Bruce for his perspective, but so often I just don’t buy what he’s selling. It’s like he thinks his audience has no business intelligence whatsoever.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

Hey Conrad! LOD gave Vince a powder puff clothesline in the bar, barely touching him. It was Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart who took his head off with their old Hart Attack finisher.

[@markt8475]

That story about the Brisco brothers and the Road Warriors is sure a good story the way Bruce tells it here. The way I heard Gerry tell it directly at the Hall Of Fame weekend in Iowa one year is that the Warriors went to them and told them Ole wanted it done and Hawk and Animal wouldn't do mess with them because they respected them. That's why Jack mentioned them when he was inducted into the WWE hall of fame.

[@histhingisinme8645]

I GOT A SNAPPING TURTLE IN MY PANTIES, I'M A MASCULINE DUDE, BUT MY PANTIES HAVE LACE, AND A LITTLE PINK BOW AT THE TOP ON THE WAISTBAND, AND FOR SOME REASON THE PANTIES DON'T COVER MY ASS, THEY SEEM TO SLING RIGHT UP THE CRACK, IT'S WEIRD AT FIRST BUT YOU GET USED TO IT, SORT OF LIKE FLOSS

[@GlassTarantulah]

Wasnt Demolition vs L.O.D not as spectacular as it could of been because Bill Eadie wasnt part of Demolition at that point? To my memory it was Smash and Crush in that fued.

[@Nostalgia9478]

Bill was in the feud up till Survivor Series 1990. 3 on 3 matches featuring LOD plus Warrior vs 3 man Demos i believe

[@tonyjackson4078]

It's very sad that their last years were so turbulent and they never got over in WWF as much as they did in the south. Still they remain iconic.

[@bgorder34]

Bruce saying that Vince didn't want to put other promotions out of business is the biggest bunch of BS he has ever spewed. He was known to go into territories and pay TV stations to take the local promotions shows off their channel and put his on. If, as Bruce says, Vince wanted to give "options" to the customers, then he would put his show on a DIFFERENT station. Trying to take existing time slots is preventing customers from having options. Vince also paid talent extra to not fulfill their commitments when he was expanding despite publicly saying he encouraged wrestlers to live up to their commitments. Hogan told Vern Gagne that Vince was paying him more to "no-show" his final bookings. I believe Mean Gene said the same thing.

[@randylynch4330]

I don't think Vince wanted to put people out of business as much as he just wasn't overly concerned whether they did or not

[@jamesg1974a]

And Vince squandered the potential of LOD

[@kevinmoore2929]

Zubaz are still around and bring made! Not nearly the number of t-shirts. They still have a license to produce NFL branded pants.

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

Tell Bruce he needs to dust that shelf off 😬...

[@Cajunman1977-k3f]

Demolition was better. Better workers. Better with their gimmick.

[@silverbullet9442]

Animal's return in 2005 came from the production of and promotion of the LOD DVD that came out around that time.

[@sirbradley8744]

STW Episode 14. Survivor Series 1990 episode. They start off talking about how Survivor Series was made specifically to hurt Starcade and kick them off PPV. Which is ok. That's business. Just admit it.

[@randyrocket4546]

i only started watching wrestling because i was flipping channels back in 1985 saw them do a quick promo on the superstaion and i was instantly hooked on wrestling every saturday road warriors and dusty rhodes versus ric flair and four horsemen every week i was a nwa jim crocket promotions guy my grandparents tried to get me to watch hulk hogan and wwf i did keep up some but prefered nwa saturday nights

[@tinfoiltyrant]

"I'm going to split the hairs on CCTV vs PPV enough to get away from the idea that counter-programming is a terrible idea and don't you dare suggest we did counter program" is what Bruce's argument came down to regarding Starrcade. You don't have to work wrestling to have promoted events or worked with promoters. If someone opted to run a festival the same weekend as another music festival promotion, it'd be seen in poor taste. Prichard pitching a fit over folks recognizing that lol. "No, you'll believe what I tell you and I'll shout it to make it more convincing!" Fucking yeesh.

[@oslowilde6961]

Eh Crockett didn’t know how to run the business but Crockett in my opinion was a better in ring product. WWF reminds me more of a Michael Bay movie and those do make money. Never liked Hogan so never really was huge into him but did love Jessie, Gorilla and Bobby’s commentary. Liked Rude but felt like Vince should have used him more

[@delbertprince5302]

The “Road Warriors” dominated the wrestling circuit in the 1980’s and early 1990’s…..

[@johnhill6412]

Why does Conrad keep saying "we've never seen L.O.D. laid out like this." I remember when Powers of Pain almost killed them in the weight lifting contest. And the time the Horsemen destroyed them and Flair slapped them silly. And the time the Midnight Express destroyed them with a sneak attack. There were plenty of examples from the NWA.

[@girthbrooks8606]

I love this show, Bruce is great, but above anything else Bruce is a company man. Towing the line after years and years and firings and firings. Vince McMahons personal spin doctor, whitewashing ever detail of Vinces cutthroat business career. If I owned a company I would jump through hoops to hire a fella like Bruce

[@EXECUTIVEPUNK]

About 1/2 way through this show and it feels like all you been talking about is Crockett and Starcade. When does the LOD episode start?

[@bradleygermain6288]

Ive been watching a lot of Monday Night Raw episodes from 97-98 and boy howdy did the WWF bury what was once one of the most dominant tag teams in the history of wrestling. Losing to DOA multiple times...really? I understand they were getting to the stage of their careers where they were going to be used more as enhancement talent for the young guys, but they were getting pinned or DQ'd too much to be looked at as anything important. The oddest thing is it took almost a year before the fans started realizing there was no hope for the LOD. The pops and chants for them to rescue other babyfaces were insane. I don't understand why they were treated the way they were.

[@keithkjm247]

You ever have a book report due, and instead of reading the actual book you just read the cliff notes, then attempt to give the book report based off the cliff notes? As any true fan of the Road Warriors knows, Bruce wings alot of this episode and it shows. When we get to the part where he says "drunk Hawk" was Hawks idea and Bruce tried to sell it as such, that was enough for me. The bottom line was that the Road Warriors weren't a Vince creation, and even though he wanted them for yrs, once he got them he just didn't understand what made the Road Warriors the Road Warriors. He had them doing Toys r Us commercials for crying out loud

[@stevep4574]

Let me guess, Bruce only knows one person who got injured from Doomsday Device. Vince mcmahon when they were playing around in the bar, please!

[@RpjH1287]

So glad there is video of Bruce now!

[@OmegaRedFan]

Brother Love, loves each and every one of his fans!

[@davidfrederick6003]

Ole Anderson totally admits he took The Road Warrior name from Mel Gibson film. But what he didnt realize that RF Video was trying to tell him is the name came from sequal ""Mad Max 2: the Road Warrior". Also/however Animal stated he started before Hawk in an another promotion or unsure what he meant but as "The Road Warrior". Jake Roberts said in RF shoot and other shoots he took "Legion of Doom" name from 1978's cartoon Challenge of the Superfriends, the villains as a group were called The Legion of Doom.

[@Swoll826]

I seem to recall Jake or maybe Hawk butchering the Legion Of Doom origin by saying it was froma He-Man cartoon

[@jiggiesosa6832]

Conrad arguing about ss being ran against starrcade is like when Bruce goes off on Meltzer but Connie gets mad and says Bruce it's 20 years ago. Conrad it's 30 years ago get over it

[@chrisblester37]

I remember Ronnie Garvin and Borris being used on super stars tagging with a jobber they would do OK and the jobber would take the pin and guys like Pork chop cash doing stints as jobbers .they had long term jobbers like Iron Mike Sharpe and many others

[@Kmart-cc6gz]

The road warriors faced the powers of pain in the nwa in the 80 the powers pain were the powers of pain before they came to the wwf/wwe

[@adrianwalters2318]

So glad Bruce and Conrad our giving us videos and pictures along with the stories they tell💯👊🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@OmegaRedFan]

I love you Brother Love ❤️

[@willsmith625]

Bruce has his dancing shoes on for this episode.

[@mikealves2236]

If Vince did strong arm them then he didn't give the fans opportunity to choose

[@mattmcglasson7104]

1:37:42 according to Animal, Hawk made sure that puppet didn’t make it out of London.

[@PaulSmith-sb7sj]

The first time I saw the Road Warriors was on cover of the 1984 PWI March issue. Beyond cool for a 14 yr old. To me, the Road Warriors were professional wrestlers. LOD were sports entertainers.

[@nbaldwin45]

Whatever Bruce might claim, they never fulfilled their potential in WWE. They were the top tag team in WWE in the early 90s but it's not like there was much competition. The Harts and Rockers were in the twilight of their runs, the Demos were pretty much fed to LOD and never recovered, the Nasty Boys were never going to be as effective in Disneyland, Money Inc were just two singles guys thrown together because there was nothing else for them to do, and while they had potential, nobody's going to claim Power and Glory or the Natural Disasters were amongst the best of all time. By the time of their next WWE run, Hawk was well past his prime and there was even less competition.

[@shaynewest8757]

Mark alert.

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

The Outlaws calling them the O.L.D was cutting because it was too true, they were past it in 97.

[@LALakersNornIron]

We could do with more Eddie Sharkey type scouts in the business today....

[@williammitchell4417]

One of the big issues in the late '80s was that the LOD didn't like to stay long in one territory for a long time.

[@christophercomitini8619]

No one stayed in one territory for a "long time:

[@ronlea1870]

I thought it was Animal that burnt his leg on the bike at summerslam? I'm almost positive watching an LOD documentary and Animal saying himself he did and Paul Ellering asking what's wrong...

[@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths]

Thanks fellars! It feels more like the holidays with something to wrestle with

[@OmegaRedFan]

Brother Love shows nothing but love ❤️ for his fans

[@kingjca55]

i loved the closed circuit /pay per view squabble

[@delbertprince5302]

I still wear my Road Warriors T shirt……

[@deadbrothers8348]

Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh what a rush

[@vxrdrummer]

Damn I feel for Bruce having to work like that with Dry Socket. It's the worst thing I have ever experienced. I was in the military at the time and like Bruce, had to work and study and it was the worst week of my life. I couldn't self medicate though or the Navy may have gotten upset ha ha

[@humanipulationnation]

Stop virtue signaling, it's unbecoming

[@warshipsatin8764]

@@humanipulationnation thats not the term means tho

[@vxrdrummer]

@@humanipulationnation you aren't very good at promos then?

[@ididthisonpulpous6526]

I had it in the Army. I was able to get some tylenol with codeine on sick call though...

[@davidsobilo9622]

@@ididthisonpulpous6526 that's nothing.. roxicodone 30mg or bust

[@delbertprince5302]

“The Road Warriors” are icons…….

[@delbertprince5302]

I love “The Road Warriors”….

[@ben31uk]

Time stamps would be good

[@donovanbradford8231]

I would love for Eric to get in between this Bruce and Conrad on some of these issues of the NWA. Because Eric I believe does have some insight as to some of these issues about what led the Crockett's to sell to Turner and several of those were bad business decisions. And while Conrad might want to believe Bruce is towing the company line Eric might be able to give very specific examples of what Bruce is talking about.

[@i-lon3185]

I'm pretty sure Hawk jus found a clever way to keep his job, as he may have found it more difficult performing to company standards. He exercised his demos alright lol.

[@ashleyswim5890]

I love these podcasts!

[@d-mo733]

One of my first memories of wrestling was meeting them at a Autograph signing in a store called,”Hills” here in Eastern Ohio about 40mins from Pittsburgh! I got two promo photos signed by Hawk and still have them to this day! He was so Very loud when he spoke! I will never forget that day. Was either late 90 or 1991 some time

[@Kevinjoseph12344]

dude is it just me or does this episode feel tense

[@Nostalgia9478]

L.O.D. DOES what Genesis DON'T!!

[@eddielopez3041]

Hahahaha. Rich guy starts podcast to get his opinion out there and good for him. It’s pretty hilarious that when he’s proven wrong he goes into spin mode. He will argue when his opinion is wrong. Even to the point of saying he said or asked something he didn’t say or ask. Then gets frustrated when he gets called out to the point of blaming or insulting other people.

[@kylesmith6277]

id kill to be a personal assistant to any of these guys on the podcasts or in the business. i cant absorb enough wrestling. im always listening or watching some sort of wrestling content from the time i wake up to falling asleep listening to podcasts

[@THINGSNetwork]

Watching a match of Legion Of Doom vs Demolition, it was announced that Tugboat was originally Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 7, not Jimmy Snuka. Can you guys talk about that a little bit as to why Tugboat was taken out and Jimmy Snuka was put in?

[@silverbullet9442]

Any clue where I can see this match where this is announced?

[@THINGSNetwork]

@@silverbullet9442 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJW3hniln9WgfcU

[@labglass4095]

Vince's shoes must shine

[@timjespersen3605]

Vinces toady.

[@Sickillj]

Road Warrior pop💪💪💪

[@darrickcato9499]

They are the greatest team ever. For what wrestling is at it's core they are the GOAT.

[@GlassTarantulah]

Bruce is the best.

[@jasonwhitman94]

That roco puppet looks like something Gary Glitter would’ve had . And that’s not a good thing for nobody

[@OceanbornAngel]

I love (sarcasm Bruce.) that the Thumbnail to this image p[pertains to a Mad Max movie that came decades after the actual movie that inspired The Road Warriors Tag Team. I know this might be a hard concept to grasp but Mel Gibson's Mad Max movies and the characters in it are still pretty well remembered even by the young kids today. I might have suggested instead of Tom Hardy's Max and Immortan Joe you SHOULD have used the images of Wez and Lord Humongus from Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior in the thumbnail instead

[@kingoffarts8352]

Sounds like Jim Crockett was just like Vince McMahon

[@Battlecatmode]

Thank you both I always enjoy your show

[@deepblue8143]

Wow, they were going at it lol, Bruce was getting annoyed while Conrad was trying to laugh it off. Conrad kept poking the bear, great episode as controversy creates cash. Love this show, keep it up guys. I truly hope this show never ends.

[@bigogarland7325]

Oh shit.. I just thought of something. Turner owned Hannah Barberra which owned the Superfriends which owned Legion of Doom…. What could have been sued for.