Behringer DeepMind 12 Synthesiser - Exclusive SonicLAB Review

[@sonicstate]

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[@phd3333]

I really want to thank you for your devotion and talent putting out these vids. I'm not a musician, but have enjoyed electronic music since the 1970's. I built my own synthesizer in 1976--a Paia 2600--a prehistoric modular synth that came in kit form. I am now in my 60's and enjoy the amazing resurgence in electronic music. Younger folks are such an inspiration and great guys like you have helped rekindle my love for these instruments and the music made.

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

Same for me. ARP Odyssey, in the 1970s, and loving the latest generation of electronic music toys.

[@kintrap5376]

I think I speak for many when I say I would not mind one bit if you made a 2 hour exhaustive demo

[@TheRealSasquatch]

or a series of demo's really exploring the capabilities (Maybe a Behringer sponsorship opportunity for Nick?) - this sounds great but the effort required to get to grips with the complexity (or spending a week reading the manual) is somewhat daunting - it makes programming my DX7 look like a breeze ;-)

[@TheRealSasquatch]

IzoTope sponsor the livestream so I guess it's possible. I would say, from what I have seen, this synth is very capable and i'm very tempted to order one. I think everyone who watches Sonicstate knows Nick isn't going to hold back on criticism (as he did with this vid) - He appears to be impressed with the Deepmind - and whilst it cant be everything to everyone, it does appear to be a bit of a gamechanger in terms of pricing/capabilities. I would happily watch a Behringer sponsored Sonicstate demo series (and a Markus Fuller teardown:) knowing it was sponsored.

[@smartbart015]

Yes Nick, you seemed a bit rushed, overwhelmed by features and worried you could not answer all our questions.. So sit back, let the camera's roll and freak out for 2 hours or more on this machine :)

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Don't worry I'm sure Marc Doty will do a review that's like 14 parts spanning a month. just kidding Marc!

[@CommunityGuidelines]

I said, "Aww, it's over already?" at the end. What a fascinating synth, the time just flew right by...

[@08080m]

After years, this is the best review about the Deepmind 12. Great job Nick.

[@CamberGreber]

This Guy should Design his own Synth...he knows his shit.

[@EddieKMusic]

By your logic rally drivers should also engineer their own car engines because "they know their shit". Knowing your shit is not enough

[@CamberGreber]

@@EddieKMusic I meant the overall functions and UI not the technical underpinnings of course.

[@thruzero]

@@EddieKMusic Design, not build or create the circuit board.

[@davedagreat69]

@@EddieKMusic Actually, most racing drivers have a major input into the evolution of their cars. At the end of the day, who knows better how the car handles than the driver? The engineers certainly aren't as qualified to determine that. There's a big difference between designing and building.

[@jjlacey1970]

@@EddieKMusic oh dear

[@robdela3632]

this guy has an awesome job

[@williammitchell6921]

Great review. It inspired me to purchase the Deepmind 12. I arrived yesterday. I'm a bass player and will be using this for composing. I got fed up with menu-driven-mouse-ckicking-creativity-destroying software plugins and midi controllers, so I went with the DeepMind. I'm not a synth snob. It sounds gorgeous to my ears right out of the box. I'm sure it will inspire many future compositions. Also, as a bass player using this to compose, having the ability to quickly assigning whatever chords I want to single keys is invaluable.

[@jakobole]

And how did it go?

[@adastra123]

Amen to that, it's way better not to be using a mouse when in creative mode.

[@lescobrandon8045]

How the hell are software plugins and MIDI controllers destroying creativity? Also what the hell is a bass player gonna do with a polyphonic synth? You don't like software plugins because it allows lower class of people to compete with you.

[@lescobrandon8045]

@@adastra123 If you don't know how to assign midi controls you might wanna step away from music production. Pro producers squeeze a mouse all day long. You're not special, you still have to mix and master your tracks, so back to the mouse. Get over yourself snob.

[@SuchaDoofus]

@@lescobrandon8045 Bad day at the office Lesco? You lost your cool there...

[@deandavis325]

I finally got my DM12 today and it has surpassed all of my expectations. This thing is pure dopeness, best investment I've EVER made........ EVER !!!

[@BoomJitsu]

Hey I have a Deepmind 12 on the way. Just curious since you’ve had it for so long how it’s still holding up and if you still love it. Thanks!

[@deandavis325]

@@BoomJitsu, the Deepmind is holding up great. I haven't had any issues with it and it fires up and works perfectly everytime. The build quality is really solid and I did buy a soft shell case to keep the dust out of it but other than that it's still an awesome synth. Congratulations and best of luck with your new Deepmind. Peace ✌

[@gasparlucas92]

@@deandavis325 how does its bass sounds? i got a behringer neutron, and it has a very very good bass, lots of sub frequencies. Im thinking about to get a deepmind. Thanks.

[@deandavis325]

@@gasparlucas92 the basses are fat. It has a sub oscillator so you can get some seriously deep bass.

[@mikeexits]

You made the Deepmind?! :O

[@liverawkstar]

What a golden new era we are in.

[@snoolee7950]

yaes there is a lot of cheap shit

[@fortheloveofnoise]

We are now beginning the platinum era with 2019.

[@TomasDiez]

any updates to this comment in 2020?

[@jeffreyjbyron]

Also from the future, and damn we are just getting started. Not only are there so many affordable instruments, but there is very little stigma regarding what you use. Some people making legit hits with toys. What's next? How does this era come to an end?

[@tommychappell6359]

The Space Age ;)

[@dougelick8397]

I find it interesting when people complain a synth, "should be X". They complained about the Minilogue that way too. It simply is what it is. Take it or leave it. Seems like the DeepMind12 is an amazing first stab from Behringer of all companies. From this demo at least, it seems utterly unique. Why this obsession that every new synth should be a recreation of something from the past??

[@SPAZZOID100]

Doug Elick too much menu diving.

[@HotStrange]

James Reeno no there’s not. The menu diving you do have to do is so intuitive it’s painless. People like you just have to complain to be happy.

[@HotStrange]

Doug Elick idiots have to have something to complain about. They think every synth should be made to their specifications and just for them.

[@josephmills3864]

Right? Two different synths really shouldn't be compared. They are all a little different. Buy them all..if you can.

[@theeltea]

@@SPAZZOID100 You don't have to menu-dive. WHATSOEVER.

[@Psychlist1972]

Sounds even better than I thought. Some of those mono sounds you got out of it were fantastic as well. Great review and demo. The patch sync'd to the external LFO was brilliant.

[@diglet553]

I find it amusing when people moan about menu diving or lack of Roland chorus. For me, the DeepMind has everything I'd want in this type of polysynth. For the price point, this is incredible! Hats off to Behringer for developing it. I think I know what I would like for Christmas now haha!

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Dale Johnson Yes i agree its not supposed to be a complete Juno clone. It does far more than a juno and jupiter put together. This is behringers second synth. So i can only guess there will be more great goodies from them in the future. P.s. i have already hinted to the missus i want one for my birthday/christmas . Her response was a look of disbeleif and "Why do you need another keyboard ". Never mind ill try again next year !!

[@SPAZZOID100]

Dale Johnson a bit too much menu diving.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

James Reeno Yes im not the biggest fan of too many menus tbh . However i hope this machine is reliable and doesnt rely on effects to heavily.

[@snuppssynthchannel]

James Reeno Scared of a little menu diving? its a synth with matrix modulation, of course it needs some menu diving, or else the synth would be huge and much more expensive.

[@snuppssynthchannel]

@Trololo Inc ® Rev 2 is a great machine!

[@bennydeckard]

Note for anyone coming in here over a year later: they patched in the ability to favourite your programs so one of Nick's complaints got addressed :)

[@bhriscmusic8880]

So you can have your patches say for a live set organized instead of scrolling through each bank of patches?

[@jojjeboy]

cool, this was a major concern, how do you do this?

[@philipd2252]

@@jojjeboy Press and hold the program button for a few seconds.The menu will give you context for use of rotary wheel , up, down, left , right keys . It is well explained in the manual, download from Behringer site. Cheers

[@X22GJP]

@@bhriscmusic8880 RTFM

[@piscue]

good job nick! this synth is really deep and you covered a lot of aspects. Always a good time spent watching your reviews and stuff :)

[@RecordingStudioRockstars]

I just bought myself a Deepmind 12 for my birthday!! Can’t wait till it arrives. 😎

[@mCKENIC]

Jesus! I was not expecting to be this impressed - great overview Nick! Thank you!

[@johnnyraphaell]

mCKENIC i was reading "jexus" 😂

[@Conforce]

this synth is brilliant. and a well engineered product. not just a clone

[@muppetpaster]

And relatively built like a "tank" By which I mean it is sturdy and not nearly as flimsy as in this clip...

[@BillyCosmosis]

18:45 "Here I've got LFO 1 normalised to the pulse width modulation..." Of course you have Nick :)

[@OrangeJackson]

The thing sounds well. Love to see a sonictalk dealing with synthesis techniques. Working tricks with envelopes and lfos etc. Sort of mining the wisdom that Nick puts into play on these demos.

[@TheJonHolstein]

Yeah, the Nick Synth-school. I would love that. Perhaps sometimes with special guest, so that they could have a discussion, so that we sometimes get input on how some of his pod-cast guests treat certain synth parameters.

[@Johnboysmudge]

Demo'd one in GAK recently. Genuinely blown away by the quality of sounds I heard. I really like the sound of the oscillators - and the filter was a pleasant surprise. Think this is one of those 'no brainer' synth purchases - especially at the price it's marketed at!

[@decimal1815]

So this is one of the most popular video on the Sonicstate channel: @ 70k views per year. Behringer RD-8 review: 123k per year, Neutron review: 100k views per year. The champion is Behringer Poly D review: 137k views per year. Interesting.

[@m.g.kroger]

Could enjoy hours of your sound explorations on synthesizers. This one is surely the most intriguing demo review of DeepMind.

[@bobbo924B]

Nick, that was amazing. I've been watching a number of vids on this baby and yours delved into the real guts of it. Thanks so much. Most impressive first outing for Behringer.

[@noiselabproject9659]

Great review Nick, you defo have the DNA for reviewing Synths

[@daviddavies9149]

Great review worth viewing again and again. Hit prog button at the same time as the fx button and press the yes button and the patch will be stored to your favorite patch page..to recall a faveorite patch (factory or user) hit prog fx and turnthe data wheel. faveorites will be shown your faves can be loaded by turning the Data wheel

[@Dudderlyful]

I didn't know that!! Thanks!

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Revisiting this video and this synth is growing on me.

[@hansbertschler5141]

Great review! Also the idea with the "pre-review", where you gave all the synth-fans the possibility to ask for the informations they re really interested in! After watching your review, i have a so much more precisely picture of what the DM12 is, and so that synth moved from my "would be nice"-list to my "really wanna have that"-list ;-)

[@BURG]

really like the TV backdrop screen... thats a nice touch and adds some extra depth to the presentation / demo. Good review, thanks !

[@dddux]

A note to Roland: this is how it''s done. d= :)

[@HotStrange]

dddux they’re new SE-02 is phenomenal, as is the D-05 and SH-01a. The AIRA series is great as well. So idk what the point of this comment was.

[@aaroninja1]

Jdxa ...

[@UnlovedZetsu]

Roland is good too, this one is my first synth and so far I love it

[@Pronobozo]

it's too bad they are small af

[@TallicaMan1986]

dddux The JDXi is awesome though.

[@mej6519]

"i want this, no i want an sv-1, no i want this this, nope get the sv-1. cant have both man", (the voices in my head are kicking off again). great review nick, looking forward to the extra vids.

[@shaft9000]

sv-1 (my bandmate has one) will cover a LOT of the good-old bases sonically - the rhodes and mellotron alone are worth the price. but the sv-1 won't help you learn nor apply diddly about synthesis. of course, the answer is "both" ;-)

[@hafstrat]

Now I understand why it's called DEEPmind. Impressive and fab review as always.

[@pierrebidondo4095]

Thank you for this very revealing & informative video. It would've taken me years to figure all this out

[@sonicstate]

I think you will enjoy it, its still a good synth for the money

[@Жан.джазмен]

I bought one today, feeling like a Child with 38 years now!

[@SunCrushr]

Finally! So glad to see Nick's review on this.

[@harrymerchant8944]

Amazing for the money. Dear Gearslutz forum clique. You screamed loudly for years there would never be a polyphonic analog synth made for under 10,000. Advice to anyone. Steer well clear of the collectors on the gearslutz channel. Their only agenda is keeping the price of their old analogs artificially high.

[@jumpingman8160]

bwahahaha True.

[@StevieMasters]

I have been viewing that site for years, may as well change the name to "GeaRsNoBs". According to those ppl on that site unless it is ancient and slowly breaking down which all vintage gear does than it's not worth anything. They need to embrace new things but they have too many LFO's up their butts to move forward.

[@gladtobeangry]

Gearslutz is a typical nerd community. A few genuinely helpful and knowledgeable people, overwhelmed by a vast pool of pretentious ignorant wankers.

[@SleutelbosMusic]

@anthony patterson Not sure if you are being ironic, but the whole focus on money instead of music is kinda the criticism. Not sure if you intended to be a walking example...

[@trevor4835]

Kwantize are you still selling it?

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

I think the the real deal maker or breaker would be to have your own hands on experience with this synth. Great review !!!

[@mstorey83]

Thanks Nick ... excellent look at this synth. (as always, you are the best with this sort of thing!) Helps me with my purchase decision.

[@33iknow]

This is thing is SICK!!!! I've been making beats for some time now and I have been waiting for something like this.

[@guitarvibe75]

Wow. I am very impressed by this synth. The deep programming and pricing make this VERY attractive compared to Dave Smith or Elektron products.

[@leemearns3808]

That sound at 27.32 is awesome, this synth sounds really powerful and really deep in sound...

[@Jimbo386000]

This and the Novation Summit are the synths of the future.

[@MessiahGaming1080p]

I love Behringer for this, finally someone who listens to what people want and make it affordable also, this is the easiest synth purchase I will ever make. Thank you Behringer and keep it up, I can honestly say I haven't had much love for many of your products in the past but this seems like a step in a new exciting direction for Behringer and what a first analog synth you have made, just wow! Not saying other brands sound bad but they are expensive and in some ways they don't bring that old classic sound to the table at all even if their pricetag is steep. This sound gritty, dirty and shitty at times and I looooove that! That is what I am looking for in a synth, not some clinical harsh or stiff filter, it should be wild, raw and dirty. Congratulations Behringer, I bet you are really proud of this synth and I am a very happy future customer, you have a buyer with me no doubt! It will be such a pleasure to unpack this baby and actually see a Behringer logo on it, finally Behringer will be a german company that will go down in history with synths also, I see a future classic here without a doubt that will be used on so many tracks and will probably have a signature sound like an SH-101 or TB-303 and will be a a go to synth for certain styles. I am very excited about this synth, I was actually looking at the Modal synths for a while but their prices are just insane. They are greats synths but when you realise you get like 4-5 of these behringers if not more for the same price as a Modal 008 or 002 it gets a bit off-putting. Thank you for the review Nick, beautiful as usual.

[@ColdWelder]

Thanks Nick! I've been waiting for you to review this synth to really get an idea of its capability, it seems to have everything I need and a lot more. Great review as always!

[@BigBadWolf..............]

The Deepmind demos now on you tube, mixed with this review are selling me on this synth. It has the effects section that reminds me of the Ultranova but it has the warmth of a Juno. It has 49 keys which is just enough but not greedy, same thing with the 12 voices. The menu and sliders on the front are what sells me on it though. It's tweekable while you play but deep when you want to delve in. I better start saving up.

[@JiggyWig]

Really lovely. Want one. WIll pre-order as soon as I can. Is it just me , or is that display eerily reminiscent of the ZX81 / ZX Spectrum? Does it play Manic Miner?

[@stonail665]

It has sync DCO, so you can play Manic Miner.

[@prufrockrenegade]

Reminds me of the Casio FZ, VZ etc lines of synths from the late '80s, which ironically were the "behringer"s of their age. Great synths from a company that no one took seriously at the time

[@networkservices3121]

The real question is, does it play crysis. :)

[@georgegeorgio1751]

Who cares, make music games suck

[@bitley]

This is a TRULY COMPREHENSIVE demo and review Nick, very glad to see this. Waiting for delivery on my DM12 now, old Roland Juno / JX "buff" here.

[@cyanodevacc8967]

please behringer. start releasing multi fx units like the eventides

[@MrMongo321]

I would love it if Nick answered me on this question, "what are your 3 favorite synth, workstations"?

[@Synthelicious]

A great review as always. Most questions answered... Thanks! Seems like a very nice synth, even with the menu diving. But i'm used to a CZ1, Poly 800 and Sequential MultiTrak and the DeepMind12 has more hand on controls than those. It has a crazy amount routing possibilities... Me liking :) Waiting for a review part two..... ;)

[@agerven]

Cooool, thanks a lot for this video. Lots of talking, but all to the point, and lots of sounds to demo it too. You've answered many questions, including some of mine. Parameter and DCO pitch randomness are very cool indeed, and omitting my need of an associated modification! The deepmind 12 is becoming more interesting with this video's results!

[@steve-on7kl]

Nice review. When you were using the chords feature it sounds so nice !

[@jonasvm]

behringer kicking ass in the synth/drummachine scene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@grimiss8592]

Thanks for the great review, as ever......and the synth sounds amazing. I'm looking forward to further reviews, as and when they're available. It would be great to see the app in action in one of you next DM12 videos. Cheers.

[@justanotherrandomcrit8115]

I understand nothing this guy said throughout the entire video but I want this.

[@PureAmbientDrone]

Got one of these right out the gate, had to have one and must say its worth far more than what Behringer is asking!

[@PDG1956]

It is great to listen and watch a review by someone who really knows what he is talking about and is enthusiastic about making music...thanks! Great synth by the way.

[@smguy7]

I am very impressed. I think that this would be a great compositional tool. I'd love to use it to multi-track in the studio.

[@spazkong]

27:30 Wow! This thing seems amazing, especially at the price. Isn't it bridging the gap between a Juno and Alpha Juno? Perhaps bridging gaps between many bits of kit. Definitely want one when i can make some space for it.

[@RabiBenLavi]

Great review. I get the workings of it, now. It's a Juno with real DCO's nothing like a Prophet 12 with 6+ 6 digital oscillators. I love the compact size, having more than a 2 line screen to fully edit with out a computer, and it sounds like a synth from 1985.

[@mickeythompson9537]

Excellent review, as ever. And always something I want to try on stuff I own (like the 3:2 LFO ratios - the circular delay trick). And I like the chunky Moog Opus 3 styled wood on the DM12.

[@mk1st]

I agree with Nick that this is a very impressive first offering from Behringer at a very attractive price. Because of the deep menu dives needed to get the most out of it I would have preferred to see an OLED color display but other than that it looks/sounds great.

[@DaveBessell]

Thanks in depth review is very helpful. Also good to hear it without effects. We know the effects are good but its also useful to get a bit more of a feel for the basic sound quality without them.

[@MichaelBranque]

Bravo pour la pédagogie de cet essai ! The best I have seen for this great synth… You just make it simple ! Merci.

[@bobfrode]

Nick...is there anything you do not know about how a synth operate? :) Great review as always

[@blogwiser]

It's been an excellent addition/companion to/for my Little Phatty.

[@synthesizerhome2041]

to my ears, it sounds beautiful, better than synths double the price... I will definitely check this out

[@chvadsb]

Great review. Synth looks really cool. No more room in the apartment these days but man... it looks like some fun.

[@JamesWilliam70]

This Synth sounds great! Looks retro with some modern twists.

[@rain_irl6460]

really excellent review nick and lovely playing as usual...thanks for this

[@intheblink]

Playing and patch around 27:45 are beautiful.

[@raffitchakmakjian]

I just bought a Behringer RV600. The verb algorithms sound identical to the ones on that pedal. Wouldn't be surprised if they are identical, and that's not a bad thing.

[@architectofechoes4]

Now selling for around £630 as of Sept 2018 not a bad price IMHO.

[@b2zap665]

Just picked one up after years of being curious and I’m amazed by this synth. There’s so much you can do and the menu is so intuitive. Behringer needs to focus on making synths like this Inwould love to see something similar.

[@mixc8]

@Zap I have a recording studio and want to add another synth to it. Would you recommend it?

[@inthefade]

Really well done Nick. I'm impressed with the sound, especially of DCO2. I'm not usually someone who uses square waves very often, and being relegated to them on the second osc made me a little concerned, but they don't have that really "video game-esque" tone of many modern synths. Maybe this is because of the ramp shape that you see on the oscilloscope with the square. Regardless, it has a great tone.

[@Zinfidel1]

Hey. This has nothing to do with the DeepMind but... I've been searching for a synth (and its price) and I specifically remember you mentioning it on a sonicstate video. I can't remember the name of it but I was impressed with its sound. It's a digital polyphonic synth and it was just a box. it was semi-recent.... any help would be appreciated!

[@Zinfidel1]

Never mind! Found it. Audiothingies Micromonsta is the synth.

[@inthefade]

John Doe It was probably the Audiothingies P6, but that was discontinued recently for the Micromonsta. Glad you found it :)

[@henryframpton]

Thanks very much for this ! Your reviews are always wonderfully comprehensive and extremely informative. On the Deep Mind 12 and so many modern synths the designers always seem to miss out implementing one-shot/free-run envelopes like on the Alesis Andromeda, Ensoniq ESQ-M and MrRack, Matrix 1000/6r, EMU Morpheus etc. I use this functionality all the time and was disappointed not to see this implemented on the Deep Mind 12. None of Dave Smiths synths do it either! Seems criminal when the sheer power of all these synths is so immense!… I love my Andromeda but am always on the lookout for a smaller format synth with one-shot capability… why is it that none of these manufacturers are implementing on-shot/free-run envelopes?

[@08080m]

Thanks Nick, this is the best review!!

[@solomonjenkins9505]

Wish the oscillators were more fleshed out, if they were it would pretty much be a must buy.

[@TheodoreChell]

one thing I' like to add is, one of the designers (at synthfest in sheffield) told me that an editor will be available on Android. Yes on Android.

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Theodore Chell thats great news, that might get me to buy that massive Samsung Galaxy View just for synth editing.

[@SPAZZOID100]

Theodore Chell android suxx

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

James Reeno wow that's some intelligent insight.

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

You can get an Android tablet for $50.00. Which iPad sells for $50.00?

[@TheJonHolstein]

Android has Midi and audio latency issues. But midi latency should not really be a problem on an editor. don't know what the James Reeno referred to, that supposedly suxx. There is really no completely good OS, mobile or desktop, not when all aspects are considered.

[@ultrajayme]

Used to own the 6 four years ago and it really is awesome. I'm going to repurchase one but get the 12D

[@Angelstarscotland]

A great review, this could well be my first Analog synth.

[@bigPianist99]

digital* but still a nice synth

[@Angelstarscotland]

bigPianist99 I was under the impression this was an analogue synthesiser?

[@bigPianist99]

Indeed the oscillators are analog, but the effects are digital. So at some point in the machine the audio signal is converted into digital before it reaches your ear. Also, they are digitally controlled, which makes them stable on the one side, but on the other side looses that morphing and somewhat unpredictable sound that we associate with "analog" and that makes the old Oberheims and Jupiters sound greater than anything new. Still, if they implemented an analog output before the signal is converted, my interest would increase by 100 percent.

[@ewanstefani]

You can bypass the effects for a 100% analogue signal path. You can also introduce instability into the filters and oscillators to achieve a more drifting sound than was possible with the Juno series. Actually they also had monophonic PWM in addition to the DCOs, plus here you have more voices to stack for subtle detune effects...

[@bigPianist99]

I dont record that much, I mostly play on stage. And what you hear there, is true analogue - at least in my case.

[@a.s.v4261]

Today I'm living a very happy Cuarentena time in Madrid with this keen nice Synth! P.S. Also with my Guitarra española, mi flauta de Pan y mis armónicas.

[@philipd2252]

Same here, keep save and enjoy. Cheers

[@Deepwatermusic]

Good review Nick. One Question. How do you like the feel of the keyboard? I played one recently and was put off by it as it feels a bit too light and cheap. The unit I played was also experiencing a lot of stuck notes which required actually striking the note a couple of times to get it to stop. Since I sold Behringer in the past and experienced many issues with repairs this concerns me.

[@bit-map]

Do you think you'll add this synthesizer to your setup Nick? The patch at around 27:35 sounds to me like some of the type of stuff in your live performance videos.

[@neuron05]

Do video pt 2. What synth news is hotter that this right now?

[@TheJonHolstein]

Since it seems like Berhinger wont have the mass produced version before it hits the stores, Nick might have to send the units back so other reviewers can do reviews before it is released. Nick probably have some other gear that also needs to be returned.

[@marketingdisaster]

The Poly Chord feature is clever. I'm surprised at how nice this seems!

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Now that some time has passed, I'm listening to DM12 and Rev2 demoes, and I can't really get a clear feel for which is superior. They are pretty evenly matched synths, but I mist admit I'm leaning towards the DSI for the extra octave keyboard and the fact that oscillator two isn't stuck on square wave. That is the weirdest shit ever, but I guess Behringer was keeping costs down. Both are pretty great. We are spoiled.

[@MBEG89]

I have both, the deepmind can do warm and lush pads for days, it has horrible bass and good enough leads. The rev2 lacks the 4 fx slots to make the rich and lush pads but still excels at pads, can do bass and leads with ease, and has much more of a brassy texture when the filter is open. The dsi is better in almost every way but dont let that fool you, the deepmind is a fantastic poly synth and is a steal price right now. Plus theyre different enough that no comparison needs to be made.

[@jakobole]

@@MBEG89 My DM12 is my go-to pad / chord machine, and my Neutron is a true bass-monster. Killer combo.

[@TheNimasan]

this is such an amazing underrated synth. this synths smokes couple of high priced synth out there. i own the desktop one and i rather to work with this than my juno 106. the effect section is 2 to nene. absolutely a tremndous synth. the only shame that it doesnt have an audio input. the ios editor works flaeless, too!!

[@Goettel]

I love(d) my Juno-6, but at current prices this is 20x the synth for 1/3rd the price. Audio inputs are cool, but I don't care so much about them on a poly.

[@SheldonKreger]

Awesome review for an awesome instrument. Thanks!

[@ish233]

behringer finally decided to get that synthesizer back out in the open, that kid prodigy

[@ebeep]

I can't believe they did away with patch buttons. That's a huge hangup for me. We've had patch buttons since internal memory was a thing. "Hold on audience, I have to scroll to the next patch, just a sec!"

[@SPAZZOID100]

ebeep keep it in the studio

[@Zemael]

Great show. Does it save exactly the filter hot-spots once found? Does it recall them right? If you set one just on the turning point, does it stays there once recalled? You know, it is all about tone. thank you

[@ConquestForDeath]

great question!

[@rebours]

nonsense

[@Zemael]

Maybe, but I liked very much the sounds Nick got messing with the filters on the edge. I just got curious if those crazy sounds could be exactly recalled or if it will jump each time, as the sound changes on "blocks" 9:55. Great synth, I liked it a lot.

[@rebours]

All parameters can be saved and recalled, this is the advantage of having presets/digital control ! Being analog the filters' cutoff may vary a little but nothing major...

[@lofihippie]

I wonder if the price of this will also double in 30 years? I mean...It is still kinda dope even now.

[@evildead2002]

Honest opinion everyone. To me both this and the rev2 are ridiculous 👍🏻 they both seem to be doing their own thing and very nicely and I like both. Which would you prefer or think is better?

[@Djpaul-lo1px]

The display size/style is very reminiscent of a Casio FZ-1 sampler from waaay back in the day!

[@pontram]

You are right...I am almost tempted to reactivate the old tank just for showing her she's not alone anymore....

[@TheAvatrolOfficial]

Really have to hand it to Behringer on this one. Wish I held off on buying the Minilogue.

[@tjs6025]

TheAvatrolOfficial I don't

[@TheAvatrolOfficial]

Really? The only thing the Minilogue has going for it is the crossmod and ring modulation. The filter tracking is shit and the "motion sequencing" is over rated. I was only able to make a few nice sounding patches with that thing if I'm being honest. This thing has some real great routing capabilities, and for the kind of music I make it definitely would be the better choice. This thing is more polyphonic and it sounds fatter than the minilogue could ever sound. What are your thoughts?

[@tjs6025]

TheAvatrolOfficial Outside of this behringer having three times the voices (for a bit more than double the money - you can find new monologues for $450) the build quality is going to be complete garbage, the screen looks god awful (love that little oled display on the Minilogue). I could care less about wifi, iPad control(?) I would easily traded that off for better build quality. I'm just not sure Behringer would even know how to do that. For me, I can power the Minilogue on and come up with a nice sounding patch in 5-10 minutes, partially due to the motion sequencing. The layout is great. I'm not going to get into the DCO vs VCO argument. Truthfully, if I'm after voices (and don't have $3,000 to spend on a sequential prophet 6) I'd skip analog altogether and go after a Sledge or even a Nord. Heck I'd consider a $500 Roland Gaia over this probably (ok maybe not but that synth sounds massive - the pads I've heard come out of that one...) Not to mention this is coming out by Behringer who exists solely to rip off ideas and designs of other manufacturers. Tats, the guy behind the Minilogue is a great guy, super amped doing what he does and is extremely talented. I respect Korg. Can't say the same that about Behringer. It would actually bum me out to spend $1,000 on one of these.

[@tjs6025]

TheAvatrolOfficial I will say that the chord/poly chord function is forward thinking. That seems to work well too.

[@TheAvatrolOfficial]

That's cool, to each their own. I agree with you on most of your points actually. Don't really care about the screen, but I mean, the thing has a fan... which is already sort of a red flag I suppose. Probably best to wait off and see how many problems people are going to have with this thing... For me, it's about dsp and automation and sometimes working in the box gets boring and I'd rather use hardware. I think that's why the minilogue was a little underwhelming to me, and the deepmind with all of it's effects and routing capabilities looks tempting. I have no real desire to hit record and start playing keys, but prefer to track everything in my DAW and make use of lots of automation. The deepmind really says "studio synth", and for someone making more experimental electronic music, the deepmind just sort of appeals to my sensibilities. I agree with you about the wifi and ipad control thing, and the potential (most likely) bad build quality was something I wasn't really considering in my statement (I know the minilogue is solid from a build standpoint). Honestly, what I would like more than anything is an old school eventide, maybe the H8000FW. So god damn expensive though...

[@bobboheemoth7255]

PWM makes me feel kinda funny. Like when I used to climb the rope in gym class.

[@bobboheemoth7255]

Pan spread......aaawwwwwwwwwwwwww oooh oooh aaah. I need cigarette .

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

Have not thought about that rope climbing thing in 40 years, ha ha. But now that I do, I think you nailed that comparison.

[@BenBlauRecordings]

Thanks for the nice Review, Nick. Always a pleasure to watch. It would be nice, if you could show an Program Edit, starting off an Initial Patch. Just to show, how intuitive and good the Interface really is - despite the menus..

[@sonicstate]

Hey Sven, I may do that, see how much time I have, more reviews to do!

[@BenBlauRecordings]

+sonicstate no problem :)

[@deandavis325]

Seems like it's well worth the price. Mine has been preordered. Thanks for the review Nick. Cheers !!!

[@tommymandel]

Hey Nick, thanks as always. You probably like to work from scratch all the time, but have you heard of any Patch Librarian (other than the buggy and clunky one Behringer provides) - my issue is all the duplicates, and wanting to clear up some space for the GEOcities packages which I've purchased. I've been at it for days (and nights!) and I'm not getting very far with a pad and a pencil, or with their app, which won't even print out a list of a Bank's patches. Much Thanks!

[@BrooseWayniac]

trying to recreate that very last Arp patch... ideas are welcome! Very cool Review by the way! Thank you