Superman Approaches Batman [JOSSTICE LEAGUE vs SNYDERCUT]

[@IngvarMar]

Also notice that the 4:3 aspect ratio does not cut the sides. Instead it extends the top and the bottom.

[@t_tmad5293]

Of course, because it's the original. 16:9 is cropped from 4:3.

[@danielz-v4083]

Welcome to how IMAX works buddy

[@nicholasxjohnson]

I enjoyed it personally

[@watchfulblue3073]

No sheet Sherlock

[@MrMentaliamorphic]

@@watchfulblue3073 bunch of people don’t get it still sooo keep being such a good sport..

[@naxiin8218]

I used to think Whedon's version was a tragedy, now I realize it was a comedy.

[@TheFLAMEXD]

How is it a comedy if it isn’t funny?

[@wackss5049]

Well its both, a tragedy and a comedy

[@captainamerica1542]

Joker reference

[@KRYMauL]

@@TheFLAMEXD A Greek comedy is a movie with a story ending.

[@TheFLAMEXD]

@@KRYMauL Well this isn’t a Greek Comedy

[@Gamer4etoBG]

I loved that there was no dialogue between superman and batman here, because it made no sense whatsoever

[@SALTYTOAD000]

As if anything in the movie made sense...

[@loudboy317]

It made perfect sense to me because Superman remembered the last time he saw Batman. He was standing on his neck ready to stab him with a kryptonite spear so Superman's anger toward Batman would be justified.

[@BREDBOX]

@@loudboy317 last time he saw Batman they were fighting side by side after Bruce saved Clark’s mom

[@kingong4185]

How does Superman’s heat vision go through steppenwolfs armor and not Batman’s his plot armor is to strong

[@mrbobyesh1191]

@@kingong4185 ​....Maybe if you watched the movie you'd know that Alfred built him kryptonian energy gauntlets using tech from they found from the ship, early on in the movie he showcases using it, Batman uses it during the first fight against Steppenwolf to absorb the parademons blasts and here it comes full circle because he uses it against Superman because they can withstand his heat vision which gives him enough time to stall.

[@OnderHassan]

The “Do you bleed” dialogue didn’t make any sense due to the context. He didn’t know who he was nor did he remember his past up until Lois shows up. Glad its now fully restored to its original cut.

[@paigeflowers1213]

in fairness, he stsrted it off by saying to batman "i know you. you did this" so in thst version, he was stsrting to remember that not long before he died, batman was trying to kill him

[@hughchungusii7393]

I loved the part when Batman says "The world needs you" and Superman replies "but does it need you?" Really good piece of dialogue ngl.

[@WorthTheWorkTrustMe]

The Whedon conversation was great on its own but ultimately in the movie makes no sense. Superman is good. He would never remember Batman then threaten him. ALSO Batman would never bring Lois there & risk her safety. I love in Snyder cut she arrives on her own.

[@aduts1177]

LoL.original was better. I love those dialogue

[@justtimur2534]

@@osbrax how did Snyder film 2-3 hours of new stuff so secretly that nobody found out about it? Especially during Corona. Only the Joker Scene in the end is new.

[@user-qp5or1ej3b]

i was so glad they changed the encounter, seems way more badass. he didn’t want to just slap him, super man wanted to kill him INSTANTLY

[@samsonspin3256]

And with this we don’t get you smell good. We get you spoke. Which was so much better

[@cholkymilkmirage4984]

@@samsonspin3256 BRUHH the “you spoke” I was like fuck yeah he did damn. She ain’t horn dogging rn

[@mov-e6612]

Yeeees, that bitchslap kills me everytime.. So inappropriate

[@thewateversho223gaming]

@@samsonspin3256 I thought Lois said "you smell good" when they returned to the house

[@samsonspin3256]

@@thewateversho223gaming that’s in 2017. With ADR

[@Renagade2332]

And they got rid of Bruce crying afterwards about how he was DEFINITELY bleeding.

[@masterdevoe2519]

Because it wasn't Snyder's

[@wolfshield2499]

@juan simon Joss is a comedian too!! Did you see the way he talk in a interviews??? 😆

[@wolfshield2499]

@ @juan you should watch his interview about avenger ultron

[@SirSX3]

They didn't "get rid" of it. It was never there to begin with; Joss Whedon added it (probably, idk what happened BTS)

[@canyouwhenyourdrunk]

God that was embarrassing

[@elderrusty541]

The only whedon line that isn’t terrible is “you won’t let me live or let me die” but it doesn’t work in the context

[@eternalblessing4984]

You still can't take it seriously after you notice his lips.

[@Shine28]

the line “do you bleed” though. fucking sucks. like it’s the most cringe line ever

[@jeffaffa3412]

@@Shine28 I know!!!!!!! It like makes it more evident that they cgi'd off his mustache

[@TheMATEO446]

@@eternalblessing4984 that's from Batman v Superman aka Snyder

[@Shine28]

@@TheMATEO446 no its not

[@buck8266]

The fact that everyone else was trying to protect batman was almost certain death is why I loved this more.

[@kal_el1129]

Underrated comment

[@kingdavidd6480]

@@whocaresguy there’s always that one person who finds something else to complain about🙄. Yes batman being the smartest league member and one step ahead of everyone, but his goal wasn’t to hurt Clark again

[@joesun8853]

@@kingdavidd6480 finally someone who is understand the movie...

[@joesun8853]

@@whocaresguy you don't understand the movie right? Bruce is the one who plan to revive superman back to life, what do you think revive him and kill again with bats contingency plan^^? what the hell^^!

[@kingdavidd6480]

@@joesun8853 plus if he would’ve brought kryptonite to fight Clark that would’ve just made him angrier.

[@moviegeek1111]

See...the problem with the Whedon version and Superman talking is that he literally just came back from the dead just seconds ago. And the reason why he's not supposed to talk is because he's confused as all hell and can barely remember shit. That's why he keeps fighting the Justice League, because he's confused and can't quite pinpoint who Wonder Woman and Batman are. If he remembered them clearly to the point where he remembered the events in BvS and his interactions with Batman to talk to him about it, why would he fight them in the first place? Wouldn't he be more like...I don't know those guys (Cyborg, Flash, Aquaman) but hey! I know who you are wonder woman! I remember you batman! We teamed up in the last movie to defeat Doomsday! Yeah so Whedon version makes no fucking sense.

[@nightgodd7865]

Exactly, superman is not mad at Batman bc he hates him, Batman made him a promise to save his mother, WHICH he did. Superman has literally no logical reason to hurt batman and 1 really good reason to keep him alive

[@taegotkash]

Exactly even Zack Snyder said this scene didn’t make any sense with Supes talking saying do you bleed.

[@loudboy317]

@@nightgodd7865 How about the fact that Batman almost killed him with a kryptonite spear? That's a good enough reason for Superman to want to hurt him and to repeat the "Do you bleed" line that Batman said to him in BvS.

[@sadeed2839]

@@loudboy317 they reconciled at the end of the movie? They teamed up. Also why would he fight Wonder Women when they never fought in BvS?

[@loudboy317]

@@sadeed2839 Superman was trying to get to Batman but Wonder Woman got in the way.

[@NoNamex1412]

The fact that Batman built the gauntlet that could somewhat absorb the lasers was badass

[@P.Whitestrake]

I think he was inspired by Wonder Woman after she saved him from Doomsday's heat vision in BvS. Maybe he thought, "Those gauntlets saved my ass from a certain death. I need them, but I can't just but them from her. Well, I'm gonna design a pair for myself instead & let Alfred make it."

[@GSP-76]

Not his whole suit...just his arm covers and hooks...and they even melted away...if Superman hit him again just once, bye bye Batman.

[@SurpremeCalamitas]

Batman constructed the idea, Alfred was the one who built it

[@NoNamex1412]

@@SurpremeCalamitas oh yea

[@Messilover140]

@@GSP-76 *Well, in a moment we can see how Superman's laser beams impact Bats' torso, what I believe is that the suit could have resisted somewhat Superman's laser beams, but the gloves could have resisted it much longer and better.*

[@diviuz4174]

_If WB doesn’t give us a sequel..._ *Ready the hashtags, we will use the old ways.*

[@renzybitzy5882]

😁

[@ruisu8105]

I think it's gonna be like an alternate timeline

[@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961]

If it ain't broken...

[@AM-nz6pn]

#RestoreTheSnyderVerse !!!!!!!!

[@karmaautomotive7531]

#RestoreTheSnyderVerse

[@somniato7759]

The best part was when Bats literally revealed Superman's secret identity to the cops around

[@timetraveller939]

Who Clarke, some around 1000 random guys with this name. Yeah, let's start comparing all of them to Superman, let's see who matches him.

[@KRYMauL]

@@timetraveller939 Considering one is cop watching his monument and the other is a soldier I don't think either would care enough or have the time.

[@ChrisH421]

Superman probably can't use his secret identity anyway both him and Clark both died around the same time and if they both come back to life it would be hard to explain.

[@bharathnikhil2651]

Anyway his identity will be revealed because he came back from the dead

[@KRYMauL]

@@ChrisH421 Clark Kent isn't his secret identity it's his adopted name.

[@lachlanparker1836]

Idk why but I really love how Bruce says “Clark no...” in the Snyder cut, it sounds like he has real desperation and fear in his voice, almost pleading not only for his life but also for forgiveness.

[@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961]

My god, I forgot how terrible the lighting was in the Whedon version... it's like they went "SHADOWS ARE EVIL AND SCARY! REMOVE!"

[@slemangerdy8407]

bruh, after watching snyder cut, whedon is infected with disney's pg-13 disease smh, even steppenwold was human looking, you couldn't feel the presence of a threat during the fight scenes, it is like 2 kids clash their sticks to each other, whedon used the full force of a neutron star to make justice league as kid friendly as possible

[@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961]

@@slemangerdy8407 For real, he literally removed the ELECTRICITY from Steppenwolf's ELECTRO-AXE.

[@JuanVasquez-ph8be]

You have to give whedon credit tho for having batman have a contingency plan like he always does

[@ultimamage3]

@@JuanVasquez-ph8be Whedon deserves no credit because Batman having a backup plan in that situation made 0 sense.

[@captainblorgus2515]

I just took it as normal lighting.

[@AnnaDraconida]

Superman was absolutely terrifying in the Snyder Cut. You really get the feeling that he could kill all the other heroes if Lois didn't get there in time. The way Batman looks at him speaks louder than any dialogue ever could.

[@finalbossoftheinternet6002]

When you shoot a movie but your mom makes you let your little brother edit it

[@SuperAllStudios]

Omg not my sis especially

[@Kiido11]

What are you doing, stepbro!?!??!

[@turbochoochoo]

Lmao is this actually relatable to anyone?

[@matte8438]

HAHAHAHAHHA WTF

[@dhilipans5412]

Never let someone edit your vision.

[@articulationtest8803]

Grab his neck but don't wanna kill Batman? What a WWE logic

[@kennethsatria6607]

Horror movie logic XD

[@tustinrocknrollfan4798]

What WWE stands for?

[@iamthesenate5769]

@@tustinrocknrollfan4798 World Wrestling Entertainment if I remember correctly.

[@Kdotmorelikeknot]

WWE logic💀😂

[@josephsua7246]

Aye man Randy Orton has been burning people alive lately lol

[@SophoricDeathcry]

I'm so glad they didn't make Superman look like a psychopath in this fight in the Snyder cut. It really made Superman look more confused and maybe scared being ressurected from the dead like that. Then seeing him slowly come back to the good boy Supes as he's spending more time with Louis made his return so much better

[@kal-el8402]

Dude Snydercut scene is happened before the Whedon version lol. Snyder just toke it from archive and put it.

[@knightfallprotocol]

It's like Josh and Zack are polar opposites. Josh hates shadows and contrast while Zack hates colors and brightness.

[@jakubrejak1114]

Blend their styles together and you got perfection.

[@TheRodg43]

@@jakubrejak1114 ya 2017 Justice League movie was perfection

[@Gamer4etoBG]

@@TheRodg43 nope

[@TheRodg43]

@@Gamer4etoBG it was sarcasm

[@gregwxst]

@@jakubrejak1114 Joss is dogshit lmfao while Snyder is literally a Legend

[@Rulancer1]

Anyone else notice how lois saves batman in zsjl is kinda like how she saved superman from batman in bvs?

[@aishikmukherjee8438]

And Batman saves Lois in JL3 from Darkseid..

[@cloudy8485]

@@aishikmukherjee8438 what

[@adpaul2997]

@@aishikmukherjee8438 have you watched it now

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

@@aishikmukherjee8438 that is if the Snyderverse continues which I want so much like hell..

[@solomonramsa]

This happens because by now she's already pregnant with Batman, well that in the first script

[@sibsart2039]

It really comes off as Superman just coming back and fighting off instinct, rather then being evil for a minute.

[@shumaatiqunnassa4123]

Just like aquaman said

[@iambuhlockay8007]

Even Wonder woman’s “Kal-El, no!” Sounds better in the Snyder Cut. I don’t even know if it was a different take, but it didn’t sounds as awkward. Anybody else feel that way?

[@chichi_nnaj]

Yes I agree it sounded better

[@ChaitanyaBhat21794]

Glad people noticed that. Even the tiniest details are better 😂

[@jetthejudge]

It felt the same to me

[@ladyrhea444]

In whedon cut it sounded like she was talking to a dog LOL.

[@brxnv_]

I mean sure but i find it hard not to cringe

[@eddisontollett8845]

The cinematographic visual makes a big difference in quality. Every detail is important. We all agree that Snyder’s cut is much better.

[@Kamyu03]

It's literally the same shit

[@RadGearsCreations]

@@Kamyu03 Okay, critic!

[@rorschach4938]

@@Kamyu03 Shut up

[@dragonballptkjr.3922]

@@Kamyu03 how can you say that a 2h movie which is now 4h long is the same shit? That doesnt even make sense.

[@kavin9115]

@@Kamyu03 ok boomer.

[@rhetiq9989]

I love how the little setup earlier when Alfred was showing off Diana the bat gauntlet’s protective layers against alien beams or superweapon paid off a lot later on. We saw how many times he deflected those stuff including here

[@paperclip9558]

I just love how snyder's visual is simply better. Whedon's visual is so generic looking, i dont know why.

[@paperclip9558]

Maybe Snyder is using higher contrast? So the separation between darker value and lighter value is more clearer? Whedon's visual is just noisy, too much details on the screen.

[@samsonspin3256]

@@paperclip9558 it's better lighting better everything lol, whedon even changed buildings

[@TheMeduolis]

Whedon's visual are like first Avengers movies, he tried to make DC like Marvel and we know for sure that doesn't work....

[@somegeekguy]

Gotta say though, As much as I hated Wheedons take... I like how at least gave Batman a backup plan... Batman got his ass beat and if it wasn’t for Lois, who happened to be strolling by, he would have been finished.

[@jorgemasso1878]

Cause Whedon never developed a proper filming style for movies, he is used to film for tv series.

[@Drownedinblood]

Whedon is really proving himself to be kinda a creeper. He added a way more implied sex innuendo for Wonder woman, supposedly for the sake of humor.

[@nahor88]

Aquaman: "Gosh, you're gorgeous..."

[@kachosuffer7]

@MrAndroidXD holy shit he really tried his hardest in sabotaging this movie

[@jordana3923]

How

[@TheBoss-jc6le]

Also I'm glad they cut Lois saying to Superman you smell good god that was terrible and Overall Snyder cut is better!!

[@samuelmunoz1464]

@@TheBoss-jc6le I believe that line is still in there. They did cut the lois/Martha thirsty line. Which is probably the worst joke in the Josstice league movie very cringe.

[@thebatman7192]

Batman Blocking Superman's Heat Vision Was Badass #BatfleckForever

[@Burnout121EA]

The genuine fear on batman in zacks version made it a whole lot better I actually thought supes was gonna kill him

[@iiADIDASx]

As a viewer I felt like Batman also thought he was about to get ripped in half with the Snyder version lol even though I knew it wasn’t gonni happen it still gave me chills

[@Zorro33313]

exactly. and it's not only about bats' fear. it's a colour issue as well. Whedon makes image looks warm and cozy which has a fireplace calming effect, while Zack's using cold "thunder" colours which tends to keep humans uncomfortable and creates additional tension.

[@iiADIDASx]

@@Zorro33313 everything just from the sound to the dialogue etc it is a gritty dc film as it should be

[@Zorro33313]

@@iiADIDASx yep, Zack knows his shit) btw, about dialogues - didn't you notice sometimes they and offscreen text seem too straightforward, alien and unnecessary? It's not typical for Snyder, BvS lines were clean and native, for example. I suspect producers still made some correctives to verbal storytelling part.

[@iiADIDASx]

@@Zorro33313 I’m sorry what do you mean they and offscreen text

[@calebcampbell3854]

also didnt have the part where he tosses batman like he just a toy, snyder cut makes batman look vulnerable while still being badass

[@TimeBomb014X]

Yeah, more dignified to defend against Supes heat vision but the force is too powerful and it knocks you back over a bitch slap

[@shadowunknown728theungiveu6]

Bruh Batman tosses Superman more in Batman vs Superman

[@calebcampbell3854]

@@shadowunknown728theungiveu6 yea but in the movie it just looked dumb and was used for a joke

[@RayMak]

This is so goodddddd. Just watched it

[@samirbasfor9696]

I see you everywhere

[@tinashechivaviro]

Ah yes, Ray Mak in every YT video comment section. Perfectly balanced as all things should be.

[@eruditelion1198]

Dont tell me im gonna start seeing you in Justice League vids from now on

[@noahgamercool69]

I hate the color of Snyder cut

[@lmaoded1550]

Aye hlo

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*Synder Cut:* Superman shoots Batman with heat vision, making him more scary and threatening. *Whedon's Version:* _I LIKE YA CUT G!_ (slaps)

[@battrap3910]

Do you mean Superman shoots Batman with heat vision?

[@liljan2011]

Superman shoots Superman LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@P.Whitestrake]

Funny thing is, WB is pandering to bloggers who cried about "DCEU Superman is evil!" While Supes looked more threatening in Snyder cut, he still looked as a confused & alert person, not an evil or villaneous character. In Whedon cut, with all that dialogue & weird CGI mouth, Superman looked more evil & like a villain.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@@liljan2011 Sorry. It's just the typo error that I haven't checked until now.

[@sanniedjs]

Blocks lasers! That is just so f*cking awesome

[@nightgodd7865]

Lucky though, all Superman had to do was look down a little while using his heat vision

[@blue1133]

Yes! And I love that they actually gave an explanation earlier, it is explained that Batman's gauntlets have been modified to be able to absorb energy blasts (which is actually very clever considering they're going against opponents from other worlds) in fact, something I loved about Batman in this movie is that he doesn't fall in the "plot armor" category when it comes to his feats, they showed him as the most vulnerable member yet someone who can compensate it as a tactical genius with a lot of equipment.

[@abovearth6740]

@@blue1133 Which is exactly what Batman's role in the team always was and always should've been.

[@jammygamer8961]

@@blue1133 And Superman seemingly broken one of those gauntlets with his heat vision anyway

[@andreashort310]

@@blue1133 But that's how Batman usually is. One of the most vulnerable members, but a genius with gadgets and tactical knowledge.

[@andrewpagan6266]

I like that "evil' supes never spoke. It makes more sense for him to be more like a cornered animal than a cruel villain

[@lkvideos7181]

Batman in Zack Snyder's cut just stares at Superman completly petrified. Literaly trembling. As if he realized he had just unleashed everything he feared upon the world and he wouldn't be there to stop it. In Whedon's version he looks completly indiferrent lmao

[@victorpradha9946]

More like Batman realized that if Superman's memory is lagging, he likely sees Batman as someone who tried to kill him. And seeing a virtually indestructible Superman bearing down on you...is enough to active the Batsuit Depends Mode!

[@lkvideos7181]

@@victorpradha9946 Absolutely.

[@batman6840]

I wouldn’t say he was petrified, but considering what he saw in BvS, definitely not something he’s be calm about. Especially if he just went through the JL like nothing. Plus he came there not wanting to fight so he wasn’t sure if Superman was gonna kill him.

[@batman6840]

Although we can agree whedon’s version was horrible and made Batman completely useless and crap. Actually all the characters he ruined.

[@shadowunknown728theungiveu6]

Bruh Batman ain't afraid of him if he beated Superman up once he can do it again if he has he's green gas thing

[@AshrafAli-is4wv]

Snydercut actually makes more sense... after that scene it shows how sup slowly regain his memories.... also lois sending superman away to fight in 2017 version doesn't makes any sense.

[@Jose-se9pu]

Snyder: "Ma...there is a reason why they brought me back" Whedon: "try not to die this time" WTF, is this the same guy who wrote The Avengers!?

[@riaramirez4733]

@@Jose-se9pu Actually, yes. Whedon DID in fact direct the Avengers.

[@MessJB]

That "Clark, no!" by Batman tho. He was scared as sh*t. I liked that.

[@DarkFactory]

Whedon = bad Snyder = GOD

[@mgf909]

Whedon = bad Snyder = dab

[@JKZEROkenjiMB]

Whedon = God Awful Snyder = Badass

[@ASIMO001]

Snyder = GOD Whedon = DOG

[@Windbrindle]

@@ASIMO001 your comment was the best tbh cuz its funny

[@ceciladams4882]

What happened to whedon? He gave us the avengers and next this god awful justice league.

[@juanferdz80]

I like how Lois saved Clark from Bruce in BVS and then comes full circle saving Bruce from Clark

[@Geral454]

And, beside that, Lois was in place for a logic and well established reason. In Josstice, she was a deus ex by Batman.

[@P.Whitestrake]

@@Geral454 That's right. In original version, it's explained why Lois could be there at that point in time. Because it was her habit to go to that place every morning ("You never miss a day, do you Ms. Lane?") to remember Superman after he died. It feels like Lois was being treated as a person/human in the original story, rather than an object. In Whedon's cut, she's just an object/tool to jog Superman's memory. No humanity or personality aspect in her character.

[@2010akkii]

She is reporter always want exclusive content 😆

[@suryaprakash-rm3nf]

I think joss is an inside agent for Marvel. No one humiliated bat like that in movies before. Ufffff

[@GentlemanBystander]

This was my theory too, tanking the DCEU once and for all because BvS wasn't a bitter enough taste to erase just how good MoS was. I'm sure he thought it would land him an inside track with Marvel Mouse.

[@jeyashankerr]

Yeah,like he was not bad when he directed age of ultron,there was no story cut or anything like that but for justice league he nearly made sure there wasn't much of a movie left!

[@suryaprakash-rm3nf]

yeah, he destroyed JL but the age of Ultron is not that bad. It has its moments like Vision lifting the hammer, James Spader being sassy robot & hulk buster. But for JL it's not like that. Uff

[@Uouttooo]

Well James Gunn is now the new agent ready to destroy another DC property. Suicide Squad becomes the Assisted Suicide Squad.

[@jeyashankerr]

Yep

[@princesssmileyface91]

Superman, seemed much more mincing in synder cut with this scene, with those red eyes when flash was looking at him.

[@Haywire-mi5fq]

Mincing?

[@GloomySkiez]

Menacing.

[@brucesnow7125]

The main difference between two cuts is exposition. Snyder shows that some part of Clark remembered Batman and he's angry without any lines. Whedon though gives us a dumb exposition, even though Clark isn't supposed to be in the right state of mind to give one liners.

[@ultimamage3]

Whedon's version is even more dumb than that: If Supes remembers Batman enough to deliver "Do you bleed?", he would remember Wonder Woman and how he WILLINGLY helped Diana and Bruce against Doomsday at the cost of his own life. He makes it sound like Batman murdered him on his own. Snyder's version works because he doesn't talk and doesn't remember ANY of them except Lois.

[@loudboy317]

@@ultimamage3 Well, Batman did almost kill him with a kryptonite spear so that's a good enough reason for Superman to be angry with him and to repeat the "Do you bleed" line.

[@shed117]

Why keep blame Whedon studio is just as much to blame

[@TheKira708]

@@loudboy317 Did you not see or read what buddy said before you.....Superman and Batman were on good terms after there fight, and battled Doomsday together....it’s completely stupid to bring him back and out of the blue hating Batman an saying “I know you, you won’t let me live, you won’t let me die, bla bla do you bleed” it was cringey and out of place. In Snyder’s version it’s a lot better, because he seen EVERYONE as a threat, because of Cyborg attacking him and the rest trying to restrain him. It’s like okay so you remember that you beefed with Batman but....you don’t remember fighting along side him and Wonder Woman against the monster that ACTUALLY *killed* you. So yeah glad they took those lines out of the Synder Cut.

[@loudboy317]

@@TheKira708 If someone tried to kill you, would you still be on good terms with that person? You don't see Captain America and Iron Man being on good terms after their fight in Civil War and they had to wait 2 movies to finally make peace with each other. Superman isn't going to forget that Batman tried to murder him and even in the Snyder cut, he fired his heat vision at him so it is definitely in place for Superman to repeat the "do you bleed" line.

[@mutedmayday]

0:13 just a random thought that popped into my head during this part. Cavill gave off huge Terminator vibes walking

[@coolgaara14]

I was excited and worried of Snydercut. But boy, it was actually incredible. I'm gonna watch it again in fact.

[@agoodpersonx]

I didn't read anything but my eyes caught "bitchslap" written in there somewhere.

[@garralouao3910]

mine too

[@Dummyslvrr]

I love how Bruce doesn’t even get a chance to react to getting thrown

[@nubhannexus007]

Liked the fact that batman felt more badass like he's supposed to be.

[@cayden2744]

Yes, in the other version he a shows a lot of fear, bit here is unreactive.

[@jetthejudge]

@@cayden2744 Unreactive? He basically gives up and gets saved deus Ex machina style by Lois conveniently being nearby to calm Clark down. He is trembling in fear.

[@cayden2744]

@@jetthejudge He doesn't give up, he was about to use the second gauntlet, where's the part he was trembling?

[@AM-nz6pn]

Wrong. It's- Love the fact!!

[@theultimatechampion154]

@@jetthejudge Lois wasn't conveniently nearby. Did you not watch the Martha/Martian Manhunter scene? He made that happen. Despite him being there for like 2 scenes even his presence was of importance in the movie!

[@Fanatic102nd]

The amount of creepy shit Whedon did with wonder women is insane. :D

[@Zaacdrums]

Agreed

[@adrianhirst484]

What creepy shit are you referring to? Sorry I havent seen Whedon's cut and i keep seeing people mention it

[@rayhr1]

Wonder Woman moanings weren't bad, you have Clark doing it too, also that thing happens too in Man of Steel when Clark is fighting Faora, a lot of pain and strenght moanings

[@madxruler]

@@rayhr1 It's more about stuff like Flash landing on top of Wonder Woman when Gal didn't want to do the scene, so they brought in a stunt double instead of just NOT shooting the scene.

[@rayhr1]

@@madxruler yeah, that was truly inappropiate

[@Chronicpatchkids]

Whedon’s version looks so fake. The scene isn’t meant to be colored like that

[@ChaitanyaBhat21794]

The Snyder Cut definitely made both look even more badass. Superman was silent, chilling and angry. And considering he was dead, ofcourse he should be. While Batman, doesn't react much at all, and even looked more calmer and hopeful in trying to convince him. And he blocked the lasers for god's sake. That alone makes it even better.

[@Amateur_Ambiance]

The Snyder cut felt more raw and emotional, and I liked that the other heroes and soldiers and police were making an effort against Clark.

[@superpixelwarrior6893]

Batman being slapped away by Superman is unintentionally hilarious

[@slemangerdy8407]

Whedon sacrifices great story telling for some kinky jokes, he makes attention seeking scenes similar to bay verse tranformers

[@shed117]

Wasn't all him tho was it and no one can deny the first 2 Avengers films are some of the best especially the first one WB and DC suits are as much to blame for what everyone keeps calling the Whedon cut its really not they just threw him under the bus to take all the blame.

[@jetthejudge]

Funnily enough, Snyder Cut turned the film into more of a Transformers feeling film as a whole.

[@anlexaify]

@@jetthejudge how

[@jetthejudge]

@@anlexaify the whole Steppenwolf reporting to DeSaad felt very out of Transformers, felt like a direct rip almost with how it was handled. I couldn't help but feel I was watching a convoluted and superficial feeling film just like a Transformers film.

[@ariqsyafwan4987]

@@jetthejudge what the fvck is wrong with your head?? Comparing ZSJL to the Bayvormers?? Which fucking part of Steppenwolf reporting to Desaad is simmilar to the Bayvormerd in ANY WAY??

[@knightfallprotocol]

Why change it from heat vision to just a slap? 🤔

[@troyf15]

because he didn’t have the gauntlets in the theatrical

[@knightfallprotocol]

@@troyf15 why take away the gauntlets? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dhrubhdaa2274]

There were many scenes that was removed in JL2017 and this scene too when Batman uses his gauntlet to protect himself from heat vision which is very amazing. Mm! Joss whedon did that intentionally

[@luffytaro1237]

one word: Sabotage

[@Tokage00]

@@luffytaro1237 is this theory true? Why WB want to sabotage their own movies?

[@nothing1more487]

The thumbnail looks like Batman is about to fight a levitating Force user with his red lightsaber

[@jlopez105]

The music was one of the best improvements in the Snyder cut

[@sasheelkarthiksathyamurthy5283]

I just hope Zack gets the opportunity to finish what he started. It would be a shame if WB doesn't go ahead with the synderverse.

[@PriestlyBlock67]

I like how in snyder's version, Batman just stands there with no fear And he chooses not to do anything about it and just have faith that superman wont go through with it He would rather die than hurt his buddy again

[@thebatman7192]

Exactly

[@Windbrindle]

@@thebatman7192 we must stop the joker

[@jacobjackson2275]

@@Windbrindle Ah no, not this time, you must stop the Riddler

[@Windbrindle]

@@jacobjackson2275 where is he!!

[@Windbrindle]

@@jacobjackson2275 wheres the riddler!!

[@BruceWayne-xq7bb]

Batman wasnt fearing for his life like some genious fellows say He was trying hard to yell clark through which he could bring superman back to his senses... kinda like jl war where superman turns evil in apokolips and batman yells similar things

[@kingsofdogs1]

I never got the sense that Batman was petrified for his life in this scene, but distraught that Superman wasn't himself. That 'Clark no' wasn't out of fear, it was out of desperate sadness.

[@zachariahschneider899]

Exactly. The Snyder Cut version of Batman is not afraid of death; he expects it. But he doesn't want Clark to make a mistake he will regret, to turn into something so different from the man who sacrificed himself for the world.

[@hbinitials7]

I love the fact that Nolan and Snyder both are detailed directors. Explains about making Batman's gauntlet and gadgets.❤️

[@intorsusvolo7834]

I still like the line “You won’t let me live. You won’t let me die.”

[@kait7168]

I actually liked the “You won’t let me live. You won’t let me die” and “Tell me, do you bleed” lines the first time I watched it but after watching again it felt very out of place. Superman isn’t petty, he isn’t purposefully malicious. He’s confused and doesn’t know who or what he is. That’s why he was attacking Diana too who had nothing to do with his death. He just knows he was attacked and is reacting reflexively.

[@Demonade_]

I loved that dialogue too and I was very disappointed when it didn't make it in the Snyder cut. Like that was the tip of the turn off for me. Imo in the original it's not really out of context? It seems to me that Superman does remember but he's just angry as if someone had been woken up from a long comfy nap, that's why he said "you wouldn't let me die" he was comfy in that state of death. And being woken up ofc angered him.

[@omarherp1131]

@@Demonade_ This is just shit, don't justify it

[@Beforezzz]

Seriously. Though the theatrical JL is laughably bad in comparison, there are still small things in it that I'm actually not afraid to admit I liked. People are in that phase where they think it's cool to hate on every single part of a movie. It's not justification, simply preference.

[@kait7168]

@@Beforezzz yeah me too. I personally liked the truth lasso part between Arthur and Diana, the Wonderbat scene, and some of Barry and Superman’s whedon lines (most specifically the “Did he just bail?” line when Cyborg just gtfo’d), but I do agree this version is better in most aspects.

[@therealbullymaguire851]

0:44 the sound that Batman made always makes me laugh

[@spiderxparker_]

He sounded like Kermit the frog lmao

[@AliHussain-pk7fk]

I really liked the fact that batman used gauntlets similar to Wonder Women in the Snyder cut I hope he brings them back if there is gonna be a sequel. Also, it seems that in this version Bruce was inspired by Diana's gauntlets... maybe later on Snyder might ship them together, kinda like the comics.

[@navidsamir1348]

Which comics? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 And like comics, animations it's not gonna happen in snyder's 5 film either. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@toxic6085]

Yeah well clearly it was inspired by Diana's gauntlet . Remember the scene : " I'm working on these new gauntlet which can absorb energy ... It was master Wayne's idea " " Maybe you should work on a lasso too , of course, in black "

[@thebatman.]

I’m on board with that.

[@vinculos119]

Whedon definitely made Batman whining like Stark/Ironman which was really annoying.

[@Valvr]

@@JoeLancaster you sir seem butthurt about truth , probably just prefer the perv version of WW

[@cameronwillis7070]

Ironman wasn't nothing like that, what movie was you watching

[@jojibot9193]

@@JoeLancaster Nice bait lmao

[@jakubrejak1114]

Tony doesn't whine man. Don't disrespect him.

[@cybergothika6906]

When superman flies horizontally but standing, like zooming to the target you know shit got evil.

[@angelcarrizales153]

I didn’t realize how bad the joss version was till the new jl answered so many questions I didn’t know I had before

[@superiorgaming8086]

0:01 why the hell Batman was out of breath?!

[@reingelreingel]

The grass in josstice league looks like that golfing type of grass.

[@AdityaSharma-yr5pl]

is it just me or did anyone else like the "you won't let me live,you won't let me die" dialogue as well... Snyder cut is better hands down but I just liked that dialogue for some reason.

[@jessiesmith6676]

It's admittedly a good line on its own but it unfortunately doesn't make sense in the context of the scene. Rather than have Superman lashing out because of confusion and instinct, that line (as well as the rest of the dialogue between Superman and Batman) makes the Kryptonian seem malicious and petty. I do get what you're saying, though, but we never should have seen that line delivered because the original scene that has Superman silent until he reunites with Lois and acclimated at the farm just makes so much more sense.

[@bobboy7242]

It’s also great to see the comparison on the shade of the bat suit. In zacks version you can see that the suit is still black and grey, so it’s like a spare version of the bvs suit with a different cowl. Whedon however has a navy suit which could work but doesn’t because the whole suit is that colour, not just the cape and cowl etc. If it remained a defined grey and a blue then it would have looked a lot better

[@genericname34]

Film classes will teach about these films for years, how simply edits and scores can change a scene

[@gelooe2050]

Josstice league: Garbage batman Snyder cut: Real batman

[@dblack4927]

Still garbage

[@gelooe2050]

@@dblack4927 I mean he destroyed the parademon army lmao and what do you expect? he gonna hand to hand combat steppen wolf?

[@verdugo7974]

@@dblack4927 no u

[@wheeler6768]

So glad we finally got to see the real Justice League film #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@freespicy]

I love the headbutts Diana and Superman give each other

[@devonsingh3361]

The only good thing about this scene from the wheedon version is when Batman says “Alfred I need the big guns” and Lois comes. It’s the equivalent of him having the gauntlets ready to deal with Superman’s heat vision. I just like seeing Batman prepared always, it’s what makes him Batman ya know. Other than that one part tho, every other part of this scene with supes being revived was better in the snydercut. Please WB #restorethesnyderverse

[@hexational105]

I've always thought that scene was trying to convey Batman making the most desperate gamble to stop steppenwolf, at this point he was reliant on faith and hope only in reviving superman, praying that when he wakes up hes the same superman he met long ago, when it turns out he's lost his memory and attacking everyone via instinct and scrambled memory he can't do anything but call his name, Hoping that it would trigger a memory, something to wake Clark up, he's all out of options, he took a gamble and this was the result "Clark No..." When Lois showed up I bet Batman was relieved af. The movie kept up the faith thing when Batman talked with Alfred "How are you so sure he'll be here" "Faith Alfred! Faith!"

[@bunnyfreakz]

No wonder why Afflect seems half dead in those reshoot.

[@bingbongbroke1159]

Superman slapping Batman reminded me of that one meme of the father slapping everyone at an outdoor party. It's just so hilarious!

[@tyrannusking6683]

Lol, Batman would be dead in one hit if Superman wanted to lmao.

[@shefain2357]

Batman is more badass in snydercut

[@nahor88]

I still hate the fact live action Batman uses BARELY any of his gadgets. What is with the lack of exploding batarangs??? All he really uses is his grapple gun and smoke bombs. Baleman was even worse; pretty much only ever used his fists. He could've taken down Bane in 5 minutes if he actually used his gear.

[@jordana3923]

@@nahor88 frfr

[@cayden2744]

@@nahor88 True, tho in this situation they would be useless

[@jetthejudge]

@@nahor88 Bale's made sense to use the things he did throughout because it's a grounded take on Batman as a whole but for sure, Affleck should have more gadgetry to use with the world dynamic and technology that is in play.

[@thedeathskeleton4957]

@@nahor88 Snyder Cut Batman actually used an Exploding Batarang at seemingly two points. One to blow up a Parademon and another to blow up a Pardemon Mounted Gun. Albeit the latter was timed. He also had Energy Absorbing Gauntlets based off Alien tech, and used Parademon weapons around him, when needed.

[@echoism666]

kinda worried about this scene, but thank god there's no batman pose "draw me like one of your french girls" in snyder's cut

[@genericduck5985]

Sup not talking made the scene 100x better and way more terrifying

[@JRHunter-ys5ft]

I honestly like how much badass they make both Batman and Superman here. Superman went instantly for the kill with his laser vision while Batman wasn’t just thrown away, I mean sure it was still easy but I mean I still think the fact that he survived a laser blast that could instantly kill anyone with a gauntlet made from his tech is still badass

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Snyder wins because it's easier to use the "Ho? You're approaching me?!" meme with his.

[@georgenajera4730]

Whedon's version looks like one of those parodys version otf the original movie.

[@darkseidmcdonaldsemployee7482]

The backhand from Superman still cracks me up.

[@TheBlackKakashi]

I started dying laughing on my first watch, because I was expecting the close up smile 😂

[@freespicy]

The version of JL in 2017 it's like the parody came out before the movie

[@Ednigma124]

Even he cut supes beat cyborg its just 15 second. Why the heck he change the moan too, this man has problem

[@ipwnyoudiehaha]

Whedon: saturation turned tf up

[@crystalballstudiostm2355]

Oh god, the lighting. That is just... sad. Though, I kinda like it? Think about it, this is basically a "what-if" scenario with these movies. It shows us a difference in style. It's basically the same scene, just a little different. Snyder's version is better, both lighting and editing, but it's still a little neat that we have two versions to compare.

[@captainblorgus2515]

Which lighting is sad? I’m fine with either. The Whedon one looks more normal to me.

[@crystalballstudiostm2355]

the Whedon one is kinda sad. It works but they look like they're in a studio. That's not good.

[@peaceunion5316]

@@crystalballstudiostm2355 agreed. This comparison makes the release so much more interesting from a cinematic standpoint and directoral perspective. I agree Snyder's is better but the differences are minimal but finer. And the colour grading matches the theme which adds to it.

[@Vagmodrising]

Snyder: Professional Weddon: Amateur

[@crystalballstudiostm2355]

He's been in Hollywood for 30 years. It's not that he's an amateur, his style of comedy just doesn't fit DC.

[@BruceWayne-xq7bb]

He was able to actually tank hits frm superman Even his suit tanked his heat vision... and his gauntlets actually is indestructable ig...

[@jonmarsh7914]

@I'm Vengeance yea apparently he didnt pay attention to what alfred said during an earlier scene. hes prob the same kind of person that criticizes a movie and gives it a bad rap because he cant pay attention to details.

[@jonmarsh7914]

you dont pay attention when people talk during the movie do you

[@BruceWayne-xq7bb]

@@jonmarsh7914 i didnt pay attention😂😂😂😂 He never said it was made frm alien tech watch the movie again

[@eddielu8394]

@@BruceWayne-xq7bb You should watch it again then

[@BruceWayne-xq7bb]

@@eddielu8394 i watched... he tells he borrowed the gun frm the kryptonian scout ship not the material for gauntlet. Switch on captions and see

[@SK23.]

"Alfred I need the big gun" Was funny asf to me when I saw it lol

[@shadowninja2338]

You can tell how Henry cavil was about to laugh when he was delivering his lines

[@DarknetDude]

Joss' Superman is more like a super pimp disciplining his underlings.

[@breadtoasted2269]

I always liked that line superman says. You won’t let me live, you won’t let me die.

[@freespicy]

Batman is so dump in Josstice League, he waits that Superman strangle him to send Lois Lane. I was like "Wtf why did you send Lois now if you thought Superman will not be happy !?". Fortunately, Snyder decided that nobody that no one would have believed that Superman would want to fight the JL(if Cyborg wasn't controlled by the Mother Boxes, this wouldn't happened, and it's only in the Snyder Cut I understood why Cyborg had shot without doing it on purpose.

[@dezinfectant]

Theatrical release: angry pet sematary superman with grudge towards batman, Snyder cut: superman is confused, did not remember who he are, after a while can talk to Louis in farm Superman x Batman dialogue in theatrical release didn't make sense at all.

[@UNDENIABLEBarttySky]

What I CAN say is I love that line, "You won't let me live. You won't let me die." The preaching of a mad Kryptonian.

[@Windbrindle]

In my opinion its a bullshit line It makes batman like a little shit

[@lexq-sm6lq]

Poor bat😂😂 When superman actually wants to fight, he doesn't stand a chance😂😂😂

[@kash8220]

I love how in the Snyder cut Batman has prepared his suit for a fight with Superman to the point he can withstand his laser vision. “I’M BATMAN.”