Suppressed Even When Poor by Witt Machine

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

KZbin demonetized and thus shadowbanned this video. Apparently only the elite rich can have such things. Help me beat the algorithm

[@Go2Sleep87]

I haven’t seen any of your videos on my feed so I checked to make sure I was still subscribed & then this video popped up 😆.

[@hateferlife]

Bump! (6 months later...)

[@johnbeavers6497]

Would the Canooter valve be ok to use on a .22lr long term? I thought .22lr suppressors had to be taken apart to clean?

[@Fegelantic]

@@johnbeavers6497 They come apart. At least the one at my LGS SOT does

[@Ian-Johnson]

Elllloooo

[@RealSB]

I've watched many suppressor comparisons and your method is one of the best representations of actual sound difference.

[@50StichesSteel]

Canooter valve is the best name for a can ever

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

I agree

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

I was pretty much telling other companies to kiss my ass

[@Aaronjaycardwell]

Keep in mind, Witt measures their decibles at the ear, not the muzzle.

[@REF49]

I put SMEs on short rifles while waiting on suppressors to arrive. They concentrate and direct the report away from the shooter well but I have nothing to compare them to and I have not tested in an enclosed space. It was interesting to hear your report adjacent to you and again down range as it banked off hillsides. I don’t know what you could gain from comparing down range reports from different suppressors but enclosed space comparisons would be valuable. Great content as always.

[@stillenacht8518]

Thank you for going over some of their offerings and giving us poors a rundown

[@Gooney_Tunes]

I would really like to see a thorough test of the Witt SME

[@edwardhoward4708]

I have one. I watched a video where whip machine tested the sound reduction at the with the SME. It was reduced 3 dB. That means 50% reduction in actual sound pressure level. My experience suggested that is exactly what it does. Not remotely hearing safe, but better than nothing.

[@scottieshotties1]

Thanks bro finally someone who set up a decent way of judging the sound difference.

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

So, I helped design these. I'm really glad to see you guys get your hands on them. (We need to get you a BB223)

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Door is always open

[@noahm6261]

Does it take wipes

[@tonyl3762]

After purchasing and waiting, finally tested the Dirty 30 on 8.5 in Radical Firearms upper. Not enough back pressure to cycle subsonic 300 BLK rounds and doesn't seem hearing safe, at least for others nearby.

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

@@tonyl3762 sound like your gun isn’t tuned. 300 shouldn’t need a suppressor to cycle

[@shmoopsIII]

@@tonyl3762 you realize that means your rifle def can't cycle without a can on it. You've posted this on multiple videos and it just sounds like you have zero idea how DI guns and suppressors work.

[@fixedG]

Thanks for checking these out. I've been intrigued by these but also suspicious of some of the claims Witt representatives have made in other videos I've seen and I appreciate your always-unbiased assessment.

[@professorhunter84]

did you ever get one? im tempted to buy one right now

[@edwardhoward4708]

I have a .30 cal SME and a naughty 9. I’ve fired an AR-15 chambered in 7.62x39 with 16” barrel with both. My assessment; in both cases, I got what I paid for, even in light of the fingerprinting, transfer fees and tax stamp. The SME takes the edge off the noise and the recoil, nothing more. The naughty 9 knocks it down considerably further. But, it definitely was not quiet, and I doubt it’s hearing safe for a range day with a carbine. I recommend the SME to anyone who is; 1. Too stubborn to pay the tax stamp, 2. Waiting for a suppressor, 3. Lives in a place where you cannot own or cannot hunt with a suppressor. I recommend a Witt machine suppressor to; 1. Anyone who wants a compact suppressor to hunt or otherwise fire very few shots without ear protection, 2. Someone who will own multiple suppressors, including a long, quiet, potentially heavy one and a short/fat one. 3. Anyone who just wants hearing protection on the cheap.

[@caseyloftis]

I might have to check out the Canooter Valve for my 20” AR, especially if it works well with rimfire also.

[@flipeverything2734]

Best way to test a suppressor by far. Of course you can’t hear the actual sounds but it’s a great comparison. The 300 blk out was super noticeable.

[@bigro4444]

The shooting of unsuppressed over suppressed honestly made it hard to get a good read on the sound on the night shoot. I can see the canooter being a good 22lr can.

[@BloodshedRomance]

they're quieter.... much less boom on the night shooting.

[@jonpitchford]

I need one of their SMEs

[@joshuabruce9920]

been watching your videos for about a month or so now. liking your stuff man.

[@jcohenoutdoors]

I really love the canooter on either 16 or 20 inch ar's or 5.7x28. I still wear ear protection though! It's a small can so it helps a lot, but don't expect it to be as quiet as something twice the weight 🤷‍♂️

[@BloodshedRomance]

I got a big body tu tu 30 and dirty 30 in nfa jail rn. This is the first video I've seen taking the suppressors apart. I was thinking they were going to be sealed units which kind of worried me. I am happy to see that they are similar to their SME devices (I have one of those aswell) so I don't have to worry as much about running .22 through mine because that means I can still get it apart to clean it out. Can't wait.

[@joedeleon1189]

I'm putting a SME on a 12.5" brl .308 AR10 SBR, as soon as it goes through the local red tape... and was expecting to see how yours did on your .308 SBR. Bummer! Great content as usual.

[@ammoiscurrency5706]

Might have to pick up one of those 30 call cans for my wife's hunting rifle. I got a can for last season and after that I want here's suppressed too.

[@jeremiahjohnson3018]

Can I just say how impressive that failure to eject turned out? Nice work.

[@jermaineenglish1019]

The naughty 9 and dirty30 do you feel if you had to use in a home self defense situation that these would be safe on your ears

[@adamadams6740]

I really like Witt machine,everything they do seams to be a little different and actually trying to get as many cans out to people as possible,I have the SME on my AR and really like that,I want the 9mm and 556 soon as possible. Thanks guys great video! I think Witt does there Sound testing a different way also that makes more sense to me.

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

This guy gets it. Thanks, Mr. Witt.

[@ecobasetech4558]

I wish you would have talked about what mounting options they offer.

[@Lexidezi225]

Flinched Hella bad at :09 🤣

[@TonyAlvestad]

As a Montana native who now lives in Florida, this video makes my joints hurt

[@luckyomen]

How does the SME compare to a KAK flash can? Is it enough to make it worth the price if I already have the KAK slimline on my 12.5in 6.5 Gren?

[@Ki113r210]

having had a 16inch 6.5 gren with a 3 chamber brake on it, the idea of a 12.5 inch scares me. that 16 had enough concussion to it i could feel it in my steel toe boots under a concrete shooting table

[@luckyomen]

It's about on par with a 9mm blowback since I got an adjustable gas block tuned right. The KAK flashcan does pretty well, but I would consider upgrading if the 175$ price tag is justified for this product. the reason your rifle is so jarring is due to the muzzle brake, it deflects things back towards you, as well as providing more resistance to the flow of muzzle blast, allowing more air turbulence thus creating more noise.

[@jeffhuntley2921]

I’ve got a 30cal SME. I like it. Wish you could buy a Ti sleeve for it to cut down on weight. 300bo subs are pretty comfortable without ear pro but I wouldn’t do it much

[@georgesmith9025]

Did it affect accuracy at all for you?

[@jeffhuntley2921]

@@georgesmith9025 i didn’t see any point of impact change from 50 to 100 yards. I didn’t check with a chrono to see if that changed at all but I would imagine it would change things after 200 yards

[@georgesmith9025]

Thanks! I’ve been debating getting one for my 308 bolt action; I just wasn’t sure if it produced a impact shift or if the groups opened up at all.

[@Meatball150]

True audio tests always scratch my nerd itch

[@jordanragin1615]

Every time I'm almost convinced to not buy these cans I watch this video and say fuck it I'll buy them when I can

[@DrewishAF]

They used to say there were no restrictions on any of their cans at all. I'm curious about what someone did to their canooter that got em all hot and bothered about it. I'd really like to throw one on my Bren backpack gun to see how it sounds.

[@ChrisBangz23]

If I’m not mistaken these just thread right on the barrel right? Take off muzzle device and just thread to the barrel any extra tools or parts needed?

[@harbinger8208]

Thanks for the info and test.

[@PrezUSMC]

I think witt says that for shorter barrels in 556 they make the big body 223

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

You are correct

[@ledheadkustomplastic3442]

I'm just curious because of SNOW and how it seems to effect sounds also.. Everything seems guieter in the snow like it's absorbing sounds.. I've watched another video on these where you can hear a noticeable difference.. I'm hoping to get SOMETHING to help save my hearing without plugs or bulky covers.. Still good video 😎👍🇺🇸

[@AdamWeil]

Greetings from up in Canton! Great video. Love it. Good info in it

[@HALODefenseSolutions]

Great info. I love the detail and im.heading over to patreon. Keep it up!

[@joej6510]

Subscribed. Thanks for the info.

[@j.m7262]

Great stuff! How does the SME do as far as recoil and flash reduction? Is it as effective as the suppressors?

[@mattbiek]

Been watching these for a while, I can’t for the life of me remember why I was passing on these...

[@matthewriffee5224]

Don't waste your money just got my tax stamp back and it doesn't even suppressed subsonic CCI 22LR

[@ChrisLoew]

best value mount that is not direct thread I would spend more money on and be happier with? OSS is my goal but happy to have an intermediate purchase till I can afford one.

[@johnbeavers6497]

Seems like the Canooter value would be awesome for a patrol rifle.

[@virtuaguyverify]

I have one. It does its job, loud, but no ringing. Can't ask for anything more from a compact can

[@jerryperez5647]

Great video very informative. Thank you

[@ryanp6072]

Was thinking about getting one of these for my scorpion, now that you’ve had it a while would you recommend it for a home defense/range application for the evo (8” barrel)

[@cz-bundy6896]

I'm poor. But I still buy Q products :) all about priorities. 🤣 But companies like this will push the suppressor market down to affordable area. Bravo guys might have to get a can or two.

[@b-rad5955]

Thanks for the info!

[@racamp4467]

Been thinking about getting one of those SMEs for my 7 and 1/2 inch AR

[@tonyl3762]

After purchasing and waiting, finally tested the Dirty 30 on 8.5 in Radical Firearms upper. Not enough back pressure to cycle subsonic 300 BLK rounds and doesn't seem hearing safe, at least for others nearby.

[@albertptran]

Thanks for sharing!

[@clint68]

Awesome, honest test video!

[@PistonDrivenGun]

I came here to see an objective review of these cans thanks

[@EquipaPatriot]

My Canooter Valve is currently sitting at my chosen FFL awaiting my pickup. I own a 14.5" barreled AR and a 10.5" barreled AR. After listening to your opinion on barrel length I'll attach it to my 14.5". I think it'll do well on that rifle.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Or longer. I really want to try it on an M16

[@groosha6]

They recommend the canooter valve for full length barrels. Their big body tu-tu three they recommend for shorter barrels.

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

@@VSO_Gun_Channel If you burn it up, I'll replace it

[@jermaineenglish1019]

And what size barrel was the 300blackout

[@edwardhoward4708]

Good video. I have the SME, in .30 cal. I feel like it renders both recoil and noise of my AR47 (7.62x39) akin to my AR15 (.223). Both have 16" barrel. I think it would render my .308 like 7.62x39 and my buddy's .300WM like his .30-06. If you're not going to get a suppressor, I think this is a must. That said, I'm going to get a naughty 9 suppressor.

[@georgesmith9025]

Finally an object test of these. How was the accuracy of the SME?

[@coyotearmory]

Curious because I've been having a hell of a time finding information on these (nobody i know owns one) In your opinion, would the canooter valve be worthwhile for a 12" wolf A1 (piston driven) or should I be looking for something else.

[@kevinelliott9679]

They need to get you the 45, so you can test it on 450 Bushmaster, I want to know if it will be hearing safe with full velocity ammo

[@mikes1172]

I shot a HighPoint 4595 with one and it was a ear ringing loud. I have a Big Body .223 that I haven't shot yet and the 9mm can, which I have shot and personally speaking I don't think any of them are hearing safe. They take the edge off of course but they aren't going to inspire you to remove your headphones.

[@Diego-hr4yj]

What barrel length is your Ar chambered in .223/5.56

[@pkake1319]

So what is the reasoning behind testing POI shift with a smaller caliber? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the caliber it is most likely be used with by the common end user

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

I want to see what’s going on inside the device. To do that I want to allow some extra space for flow around the bullet. If the design is good we won’t see much, if it’s bad we get impact shift.

[@blwnova4155]

Whitt Machine website is super lacking in info for that SME in terms of dimensions.

[@brandon.raguz1]

Dumb question but how do you think the SME would do on a 10/22? Overkill? (NJ resident so no supressors for me) Im building a 10/22 and Im between this or a Surefire warden direct thread

[@jrose609]

You sold me! Think I need a Canooter Valve and an SME.......That SME is one of the coolest things I've seen, and I don't have to send tax money to Sleepy Joe.

[@Fudmottin]

Adding my voice to the requests for more info on the SME. Also, FOR THE ALGORITHM!

[@bobbyconway1965]

Nice honest video

[@garyb351]

The Canooter Valve just made that short barrel Ar angry! holy cow

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

SUPER ANGRY

[@ianfarquharson3772]

I still don't get how they can charge so much for a machined part of old technology in a tube just because it fits in a gun. I'm sure if a machine shop made on they wouldn't be that expensive. Even with the extra charges,insurance etc for being in the silencer/suppressor business.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

You could always do it and find out

[@therealandrewcano]

With a CCW you can go into your local Cal Ranch or small gun store and purchase your firearm on the spot, in and out no problem, right? Well here's my question, if you have a CCW does that help make the process of purchasing a suppressor any faster??? I heard it can take months to get approved or whatever, so I just wonder if a CCW would help Anyone???

[@JRkota318]

Doesn't help speed anything up.

[@TylerO_O.]

I used to have a shit db gauge for testing car stereos .... prolly find one on amazon pretty cheap . idk If it would be a method worth trying... I'm poorish.... I like the idea.... 700 looked like the ticket to get in at the ground level... maybe the industry in general will start trying stuff like this. I'm a fan

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

There is a reason they are so expensive. As in cheap ones won’t work. A car stereo puts out slow continuous sound. The meter you are describing has a sample rate 1/100 or 1/1000 that of the meters we use. It will straight up miss the peak.

[@skchen83]

Waiting patiently for Witt to go off NFA inside of Texas!

[@professorhunter84]

youre like the only recent person in these comments so hopefully you reply. do you think its worth buying the canooter or have you heard or seen anything? theyre 200 bucks right now

[@kfranklin308]

Could you please try the big body 223 on a 11.5”-16” 556 and a 22lr? Just a few quick shots and then your opinion. I have been debating it for months. I don’t want to regret it though. I want to get one ASAP. Saving for a better one would take longer.

[@ggjvfbbv5400]

Did you get it ? And if so how was it ?

[@kfranklin308]

@@ggjvfbbv5400 no after reading mostly bad reviews I decided not to get it.

[@Seth_Murphy_00]

Can the naughty 9 work on a 350 Legend? The spec chart in the front end of this video said “No Restriction”

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Not sure. Ask the manufacturer. Check again in the video- that’s not what that means

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

Absolutely

[@christaylor4086]

The canooter valve is rated for 7” 5.56 barrels and longer.. soo

[@linger2001]

All good information.

[@joseescudero6688]

You're a genius

[@cartersm2425]

I'm after one of those SMEs asap.

[@ragnarmjolnir9654]

Should say : Ohia. You dam yankee 🤣😂🤣😂👍🇺🇸🖖

[@marcusyoung7635]

Ohio represent!

[@DrewishAF]

I still really want to see the effective differences between the Big Body Tu-Tu-Three and the Canooter Valve. I've got a couple of 5.56 rifles, a handful of 22lr guns, and ways to shoot them at very high rates. The guns range anywhere from a 4" barreled 22lr pistol to a 16" 5.56 rifle, including my baby: an 8.26" 5.56 SS piston gun. That short of a barrel length with a high rate of fire means that trying to suppress it is a bit of a bitch without burning things down entirely. It also means that I am going to need a stout, full-auto & SBR rated can, preferably which can be cleaned intermittently if firing 22lr. That said, I also don't want to add a full pound to the end of a rifle, especially if it's one with an 8-1/4" barrel capable of firing 600-700RPM and already weighing 8 pounds.. So from where I'm sitting, the Canooter Valve seems like the best option under $500, but I'm a bit concerned that it won't be quite efficient enough to adequately quiet down the gun. That's why I've been considering the Big Body, though the weight is also an issue. If I had it my way, I would be able to buy a Form1, machine a few inconel/stellite baffles within a titanium housing (which gradually taper down in thickness from the threads to the endcap for weight/balance) and have the ideal can for all of these guns. But that's still going to be a challenge considering the cost of the materials and difficulty to machine. Ugh...I guess we'll see...

[@haroldshiramizu9593]

will the canooter work well with 22lr?

[@virtuaguyverify]

With subsonics yes. Hearing safe

[@REF49]

I’d really appreciate this approach applied in an enclosed area like my bedroom, living room or down my basement steps. I know what you’re thinking, no.

[@Perry2186]

Does the naughty 9 work for 38spl 357mag

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

I’d ask Witt if I were you. They would know if it’s bored properly for that.

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

Absolutely. The warrety is based on bullet diameter, not 'caliber' designation. So if you want to throw a 300RUM through the Dirty30, do it. If you want to put 350Legend through your Naughty9, do it.

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

@@VSO_Gun_Channel gladly. If it fits, it ships.

[@1259bogs]

That comp isn’t classified as a silencer...yet. The gov just wants to wait until a bunch of people own them and other companies start making them like that, then they’ll try to ban them!

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

I don’t think it meets the definition and it doesn’t really do that.

[@1259bogs]

@@VSO_Gun_Channel I don’t disagree but a pistol brace isn’t a stock, the original OSS muzzle brake wasn’t a silencer, 30 round mags aren’t high capacity, I could go on. The gov doesn’t care about facts

[@MuzzleFrontLLC]

@@VSO_Gun_Channel Completely agree

[@justinhowe2511]

I premature pull a lot too bud, don’t worry

[@Zachariahszz]

So is this an NFA item? Do I have to ask the gov to get one of these??

[@nnerrfman6326]

Unfortunately, yes. These are NFA items.

[@Lexidezi225]

This ain’t even worth a tax stamp. I’ll just take a muzzle brake. The atf ain’t getting $200 from me

[@reedwally6143]

Yes do the SME short barrel 308

[@floridamike75]

2 things, You didn't say the distance of your accuracy test. And why oh why would you RockSet or locktight a suppressor? Love your videos Man!!!

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

1.) that distance is 50 yd. it’s been said in so many videos. But you are right. 2.) so it doesn’t come apart. Common practice

[@YouTubeflakeland]

What charging handle is used with all of that man meat force and doesn't break lmao?

[@Bones6987]

A diehard Or absolutely nothing to do at all Hahah Love the video

[@HopsAndLead]

I don't see a use personally for a K can shorty length like those. I'd rather just stick with a 6"+ for a rifle. I don't plan on suppressing any handguns.

[@Jonno2summit]

I hate to bitch, but the sound seems to cut out at some points in your video. 🙃 Great video. I wanted to see the internals of Witt's cans. And thanks for showing the SME devices. I thought of that years ago and was going to test it with a soup can around my brakes. A great range-friendly brake.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Time stamps?

[@Jonno2summit]

@@VSO_Gun_Channel I was making a joke about the quietness of the cans.

[@djindigenous1]

I will bring my 5.56 gun over 16" barrel to you for you to test. I'm in akron let me know.

[@freddyfreddy2073]

Its NOT hearing safe if you shot it with hearing protection.

[@Nick-fm9ux]

No notifications from you guys

[@johnviera3884]

Crazy that you don’t have at least a 16” rifle. Gene Stoner is rolling in his grave.

[@WexWerxScott]

a+ for names... they seem like they work ok

[@johnviera3884]

Aren’t you supposed to be able to open the can? With Rocset you would never be able to clean the inside

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

1.) not usually. Cans don’t need cleaned. 2.) you can still get it open, you just have to follow procedure

[@MrMistery101]

For what it's worth, this was in my suggestions.

[@theleagueofpirates7593]

I just had a conversation about these this evening. I was pleasantly surprised that you had already prepared a video on them. Nicely done amigo. #extremefajitas

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Who said fajitas ?