The Rich History of Newars, Tantra & Art in Nepal | Malla K Sundar Podcast | Ep 319

[@RODRASNAS]

Namastê. I'm brazilian and I'm just here in Kathmandu, traveling in this month to the Nepal. I would like watching you with subtittle in English, kindly. ❤

[@devendrabajracharya9469]

I feel great even more being a member of a great civilization after listening to the insights of Malla K Sunder 🙏

[@devendralalshrestha9881]

True. Same here.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@devendrabajracharya9469 there are lots of misinformation too. Be aware of that. Bajracharya is Sanskritised word, actual word in Newa Bhyah is Gubhaju.

[@Peaceful-12]

One of best explanation till now by malla sir

[@sikasbkoju3715]

Kura batarnu ra kura bujaunu ma dherai farak cha.

[@KtmGuy911]

Baseless explanations 👎👎👎

[@SurendraKarki-o4b]

I was able to hear very satisfying and logical answers along with good and consistent questions. Listening to the 1,2 intellectual personalities, they have found little help from other things to confirm their one-sided point. Looking at the beginning and moving state of human civilization, it is important to look at and study the local level of antiquity, culture, costumes, colloquial words, food, statements already said and customs that have been believed. It's a very serious and interesting matter. It's a good start. Let's continue. Thank you so much!

[@prabhuewai9905]

Best and most logical account of Newars!

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@prabhuewai9905 history is not about logic or reason. Know what is scientific and what is historic. Using cheats to be best cannot be considered best.

[@dreamadventure8220]

​@@sikasbkoju3715 And he has placed his assertion and argument based on scientific methodology of genetics, linguistics and cultural studies. You seem to be offended by the rational conclusion of Newar being the south indian immigrants. And yes history is about logical and analytical studies backed by scientific evidence and history don't give a damn about people's sentiments.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@dreamadventure8220 lol, go know how history is written first. No one is offended that's just your thoughts, we are happy to know what really going on. We even know what Muslim did to Hindus and they came to Nepal as they exodus to other land. There difference in scientific and historic parts. Do you even have senses!

[@KtmGuy911]

He has no base…Newar is a big community and he is putting all the NEWARS in the same basket. 2 types of Hinduism…Vedic and Tantrik and he failed to distinguish. He kept mentioning Vedic…Newar people practice solely Tantrik Hinduism. 👎👎👎

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@KtmGuy911 even you said wrong about newa people. Tantric is different thing it not related with Hinduism, there is no such thing as Tantric Hinduism or Tantric Buddhism, have you heard about ancient religion named Bonpo religion. And the word newar or newari is incorrect word ,it correct word is Newa or Newa mi, the mother tounge language newa people speak is Newa Bhyah, not nepali or nepal bhasa which is completed modified. Tantric have there own religion it not associated with Buddhism, Hinduism(Sanatanism) or any other religion. Sanatanism(Hinduism) is Vedic Religion and Zoroastrianism is Avesta Religion which existed even before Vedic Religion.

[@devendralalshrestha9881]

Excellent. Its so organic yet new (for many of us) prospect to look and understand NEWARS

[@amitpradhan6752]

नेवार समुदाय विषय यतिधेरै जानकारी स्पष्टरूपमा पाए आज। धन्यवाद छ !

[@ilikedogs4332]

Enjoyed listening to this learned gentleman. Thank you Since the interviewer is asking what is civilisation many times, one of the traits of civilization is adjoined houses as Mr. Malla rightly said "Nagar". Look at Kathmandu valley's settlements, Rome, harappa, present day Europe, newar settlements Gorkha, bandipur, Pokhara etc.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@ilikedogs4332 looks like MR. Malla has physcology disorder.

[@Er.LalitChand]

एकदम चाखलाग्दो ब्याख्या नमन दुबैजना सरहरू🙏💢

[@jayshrestha6855]

One of the Best explanations on "Newars" History.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

I don't think so. Most are misinterpreted, whitewashed and gaslighted.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@jayshrestha6855 bakamfuse kura badi gareko cha. Cannot be considered as best. Best hune cheat use gareko hola.

[@pratikking2272]

Karnataka refugee malla is telling us about history of indigenous Nepalis

[@Rajasaab153]

@@pratikking2272 Malla haru karnataka bata ayeko bhanera kasari tha bho ?? Tesai hawa jpt Lekh dini ?? Malla Pali bhasa bata baneko word ho.. Pali bhasa south ma hoina Ganga kinara xetra ma bolintyo… Je payo Manpari bolne …

[@pratikking2272]

@@Rajasaab153 abey chutia. Malla bhaneko surname pachi matra uniharule lieko ho. Bihar ma raj garda iniharule aafulai karnatbamshi bhanthiyo. Pashupatinath ko pujari karnataka ko auncha. Simrangaurh ma pani aafulai karnatvamshi bhanthiyo

[@dilllims3103]

साह्रै राम्रो जानकारिमुलक भिडियो ।

[@ggnbista7756]

most enlightening-lots and lots of "wow!" and "really?" moments, great work. Would be interesting to see some more reactions from the host. eg. express your reaction "some may be exaggerated to some extent" the reaction you would expect from your viewers and BTW some newari language input would have been appealing to newari speaking viewers, and wood have lightened the mood

[@sureshasuresha6520]

Shushant enjoyed this talk show the most, I realised

[@LS-ug3xf]

I used to live in Mangal bazaar, Patan. Muslim community used to live and sell bangles there. I renember one old Muslim used to speak Newa bhay fluenty. He loved children and used to call me to talk with him in his shop as he was old and had trouble walking. The old couple were so kind. He was really popular in that area. If you're a local living there in 1980s or 1990s you would know him.

[@cristiano-7officialyt]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKOrhJZ-r5qdd7ssi=I7uoRRO0rthqWA4j yo video ma muslim newar xa u are true

[@sureshasuresha6520]

शुसान्त नतमस्तक भई सुने को पाए यो एपिसोड मा। अर्को पटक पनि बोलाउनु पर्छ मल्ल जी लाई

[@sonyshrestha5307]

Most valuable podcast for researcher .

[@ashokdangol7457]

गाेपालीहरु सर्वप्रथम खाेकनाकाे पारी चाल्नाखेलकाे ग्वाल्दह ( ग्वालाहरु बसेकाे दह) र त्यही खाेकनाकाे उत्तरतिरकाे सैंबु भैंसेपाटीकाे ग्वाखा (खाेकनाहरुले बालिले शब्द, अहिलेकाे मन्त्री र मुख्य मन्त्रीकाे क्वाटर एरिया) अाएर बसेकाे हुनु पर्छ

[@sureshasuresha6520]

Gopali का पुस्ता आज पनि चित्लाङ मा पाइन्छ

[@classicrock2560]

Best guest dai yestai diverse podcast gardai garnu

[@nepu22]

his explaination is logical.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

History is not logical at all. Lol😅

[@mespangrai5240]

Yes, very logical and anthropologically , historically correct information.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

​@@mespangrai5240 you think history are written logically?? 😂😂 are you writing an essay?

[@sikasbkoju3715]

​@@mespangrai5240 historian and scientist are different things.

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

@@sikasbkoju3715 how history is written? Enlighten us!

[@user-ob3uc6fd3d]

Proud to be a Newa

[@Testerr101]

49:10 त्यो नाच लाई नवदुर्गा नाच भनिन्छ जुन वर्षै पिच्छे भक्तपुर बाहेक का नेवाः बस्तीहरुमा पनि चलाइन्छ , महाकाली नाच भनेको अर्कै नै छ। अनि त्यो सुँगुरको पाठोको मुटु निकालेर बलि दिने गरिन्छ कलेजो हैन 🙏

[@saamyokcreation4218]

The best way to find out in a language is to find out which race, character gene matches Newar. Cultures and civilizations are developed, changed, mixed forms.

[@suzinamayatamang4848]

Matlab chai vanne thego chai ekdamai ramro sirko❤

[@Stinki519]

Keep up the good work.. Keep on bringing these intellects from various fields so we can learn better. I do not want to know the life story of Jitu Nepal or Magney Buda or Budhhi Tamang. You know what I'm trying to say.

[@bibekpradhan1031]

Loved it!❤

[@sikasbkoju3715]

Guff peleko cha dherai thauma.

[@Bluesky-ki9tz]

Good Podcast मतलव चाही Good histrory told. 😊

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@@Bluesky-ki9tz kura batarnu ra itihas bhannu farak cha. Kati payee kura hawamai , itihas sanga Mel na khane gari bhaneko cha.

[@parekchaulagai3848]

Sounds very logical ❤

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@parekchaulagai3848 logic don't work in history.

[@pratibhashrestha429]

As in a country we find various casts ,cultures ,religions,races,as we find in Nepal now various religions, cultures and different peoples etc,in the same manner in those days here in Kathmandu valley there was newar kingdom,so obviously it will have different people.

[@ashokdangol7457]

जापानीहरुले 35 हजार बर्ष पहिला दह थियाे रे, त्यही भएर चाेभारबाट पानी खाेलिनु भन्दा अगाडि बागमति civilizayion अन्तर्गत करीब 20/30 हजार बर्ष पहिला खाेकना (अहिलेकाे Fast Track काे Zero किलाे पर्ने ठाउँ) काे िबकास भएकाे हाे कि, उत्खनन् गराउनु पर्छ , चाेभार गल्छीमा धम्ब आजु लाई पुज्ने गरिन्छ - मल्ल के. सुन्दर लाई खबर गर्नु हाेला

[@localvloggers8972]

याक्थुङ्ग (लिम्वु) civilization काे बारेमा पनि तपाईंको popular podcast मा guest आमन्त्रित गर्दिनु भनयो भने 3 corore नेपालीले लिम्बू civilization बुझ्ने मौका पाउने थे ।ᤛᤣᤘᤠᤖᤥ ᤀᤣ ᤋᤠᤃᤧᤖᤠᤏᤡ ᤲᤘᤠᤑᤢᤔᤠ ᤔᤠ ᤲᤅᤣ ᤛᤣᤘᤠᤖᤥ 🙏

[@neji7235]

नेवार होइन नेवा समुदाय । अनि त्यो बेलामा India भन्ने देश नै थिएन । Please correction गरौं है 🙏🏼

[@dreamadventure8220]

South Indian Vanda ajha thik hola

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@@neji7235 k thaha hau hawa ma kura garne lai, kukur lai haneko dhukur lai lagcha bhanthanya hola.

[@hupendrajoshi6236]

सुशान्त भाई मङ्गलबजार को खास नाम मं:गा हो भन्ने सानोमा मेरो साथीको बुबा बाट सुनेको थिंए । आर्थात भिमसेन मन्दिर संगै सानो सेतो घर छ जहाॅ पहिले पान पसल थियो अहिले छैन ।यस को पछाडि सुरुङ छ जसलाई मं:गा भनिन्थो रे यहाॅ बाट भित्र तीन वटा घाराहरु छन ती धाराहरु मध्ये बीचको धाराबाट चोखो पानी ल्यारुर सिद्धि नरसिंह मल्ल राजाले होम गर्दा प्रयोग गरिन्थे भन्नु भरुको हुॅदाॅ यसबारे पनि खोज अनुसन्धान गरी यसै कार्यक्रम मार्फत सुन्न पाईयोस ।

[@MegaGehendra]

नेबार बिद्वानहरू यसरी आफ्नो स्पष्ट ईतिहास बताउंछन ॥ तर उता मुलबासी बिद्वान हुं भन्नेहरू कुनै प्रमाण बिना हामी यहीं उम्रेका भनी फुर्ति लडाउंन सिकाउंछन्॥

[@surendragautam9939]

सहि भन्नुभो ❤❤

[@jangetravelsjbr]

timi haru ghamanda manxau hami garva garxau tei ho kura . netal (neta ko tal ma chalne desh ) ko janta . tori haru

[@MegaGehendra]

@@ArunaRai-s5b Ho ra rai-ni sister.........means PRET pathaune hola?

[@unikvlogger]

​@@ArunaRai-s5b rai newar jastai tah xan ni sayad pure newar nai rai po hun ki, ekdum chimso aakha ni xaina, ekdum thepcho nakh ni xaina, goro goro, dherai dari naaune ra kapal sarlakka budo huda samma ni najharne, hunu ta rai lai newar ho nabhanau tara rai ko sambandha ktm ra newar sanga bishesh nai xa bhanne chahi bujna skinxa! anyway abo jat bhanda mathi rastriyeta rai ni newar ni limbu ni tamang ni khas arya tharu madhesi dalit hami sab abo nepali! jay desh

[@MegaGehendra]

@@jangetravelsjbr 😝 ताई न तुई, फुर्ति लाई॥ 😝

[@nevermind1123]

Newa may be related to south indian nair caste... Bara chatamari chiura coconut eating on banana leaf etc and more food are co related that things amazed me

[@pratikking2272]

Not newa. Shresthas are refugees from karnataka. Not all newars.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

​@@pratikking2272 no doubt at all.

[@FreeFire-rf9tv]

@@pratikking2272so which newari caste are the originals of nepal

[@sikasbkoju3715]

​@@FreeFire-rf9tv newa is not a caste, it's a race.

[@Skandakumar2]

Shakya bajracharya are also from india .baki china bata ho

[@unikvlogger]

Sarsarti bujda yeha koi thiye jo thiye uniharu alaukik thiye ra jo aaye uniharu mai misiye, ahile tyo sabda thykkai NEPAL bhayeko xa, ma newar ko choro ra mero rastriyeta nepali ho, newar mero jaat ho, jat bhanda mathi rastriyeta, newar ni rai limbu ni tamang ni khas arya tharu madhesi dalit thakuri satnami dasnami muslim christian hindu buddhist hami sab abo nepali jasari pahila sab newar bhaya abo sab nepali hunu tesari nai awashek xaa! jay desh jay nepal!!! 🇳🇵🇳🇵

[@surajmajhi4006]

Dear sushant pradhan sir , I enjoy watching your podcast recently there was podcast on kiratis and series on newars . Being a tharu I still dont know much about our history and it is evident that there is too much misconception and unknown's about us ..I request you to invite tharu enthusiasts or archeologist or any concerned personale

[@bijayahamal1668]

What I have know is tharu is living in tarai region from thousand of years. They developed their gene immune to dengue, Malaria. Before the develop of DDT (dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane. No one survive on the malaria infected region no pahadi and no madheshi. Also tharu is the gene blocker of Tibet o burmish gene to pass down to India. Only one rare case of human gene barrier in the world.

[@dipakmandal2248]

​​@@bijayahamal1668And the biggest misconception about terai is that whole terai was covered with dense forest and prone to Malaria. But it wasn't. Tharus used to live near jungles that's the reason why they are immune towards Malaria while there was still dense settlement of human in terai outside forest areas

[@bestcocbaseswithlink5069]

tharus are austroasiatic people

[@dipakmandal2248]

@@bestcocbaseswithlink5069 Tharu do have Austroasiatic origin but they even have Aryan gene R1A1 haplo group in significant amount. So they are like Indo Aryan Austroasiatic group of people.

[@bestcocbaseswithlink5069]

@@dipakmandal2248 yup paternally they are indoaryan, maternally austroasiatic. however, majority of their gene is austroasiatic

[@gitakhadgi7800]

जहां सम्म मेरो जानकारी अनुसार ललितपुरको च्यासलमा बस्ने खुस: नभई तिप्यहरु चाहीं किराती हुन भन्ने सुनेका थिए।

[@manishmaharjan6762]

खुश हैन टेपेहरु हो

[@Testerr101]

तेपे व्यञ्जनकार हरु किराँतका वंशज हुनु रे भन्छन् 👍

[@bishansinghbohara8682]

Sounds logical.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@bishansinghbohara8682 sounds whitewashing to me. As history is not logical and reasonable. Scientific and historic are different thing.

[@bishansinghbohara8682]

Sounds like unbiased, authentic. There is no scientific study as to from where different ethnic groups came except tibetans who came to nepal from tibet.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@bishansinghbohara8682 that's not authentic , some of the words are manipulative too. As Malla are refugees from India, who were called Shresthas that came from Karnataka and kept there surnames Malla. Just because they have Malla in that doesn't means they are completely from Nepal.

[@angrymaniac53]

​​​​@@sikasbkoju3715lol from what I have heard even shrestha don't consider just anyone as shrestha. I have heard old people talked about how some shrestha aren from other places but learned language and stuff and started calling themselves shrestha. I'm myself a shrestha grown up in shrestha community and from what I heard some people here in thimi actually believes newa people's origin actually began from dolkha something like that(not exactly sure if it's dolkha but it's near bhaktapur district stuff) and moved into valley stuff and believes that people from dolkha and place near there like bhaktapur has one of the purest newa language. So yeah I'm definitely sure that shrestha coming from Karnataka is also not completely true. There might have been those who actually moved from Karnataka but don't think every shrestha is from there and I think shrestha is just a sub-community which is why there are so many family names in shrestha like shibonja, tubanja, mansing, thapa,etc. I have also heard people talk about how malla are not newars and simply people from south who just learned local language and lived with locals calling themselves newars😂. So yeah I have seen newars especially Shrestha people who considers malla people as non newars let alone consider them Shrestha😂.

[@BobdaiOfficial]

खै के भन्नु मैले सुनेको पैला श्रेष्ठ हरुलाई नगरकोटी लाई भान्छा मा छिर्न नदिने छिएको नखाने गर्थ्योरे या चाई के हो यो मैले बुझ्न चएको नेवार पनि छुवाछुत छ भन्ने सुनेको सबै भन्दा बढी नेवारले झन् गर्छ भन्छन्

[@sugampandit724]

Kati lai satya kura tito lagyo hola....

[@sikasbkoju3715]

😂😂😂 j ni patyaidiney. 😅

[@NiranjanMalakar]

Newar in NOT any mono ethnic group like other Nepalese communities. This is NOT any caste either. But this is citizenship name, like American, French, British and Swedish. Newar means just citizen of Nepal Mandal (Nepal Valley and surrounding areas) where Newar civilization was florished here.That's why all the people who lived in this area were called Newars or regarded as Newars before PN Shah conquered Nepal Mandal. People could be any body. He could be any body Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Aryan, Mongoloid, Dravids etc. That's Right. You can find anybody in Newar Community. Newar is Nationality means Ratriyeta, NOT Janjati. Newar is a nation within the Nation.

[@Tobiraaaama]

Limbu is also same but without Aryan blood..Rai has 30 different languages which is not understood by each other..So it Is a community of different tribes

[@Skandakumar2]

​@@Tobiraaaamakati dherai rai limbu le bahun chettri bibhah gareko dekchu ta .😅

[@Tobiraaaama]

@@Skandakumar2 limbu lae Jo maan parxa tyoi Garda...any problem?

[@Ishitmypantsfull]

That's why you have castes ranging from Upadhyaya Brahmins to Untouchable Dalits within Newars

[@prabhuewai9905]

@@NiranjanMalakar I agree with you. Mr Malla is saying same thing. Tell me if newars are not janajati why are they taking janajati quota seats? Most janajati reservation seats are taken by newars in Nepal.

[@Akshara_mission]

शाक्त प्लस वैदिक राजोपाध्याय जुजु शैव = कर्माचार्य जोशी गुभाजु, गुरूवाचार्य बौद्ध = बज्राचार्य नेवार समुदायमा ३ प्रकारका तन्त्रको प्रभाव छ ।

[@vividimagination5018]

Sabai Sanaatani Ho.. Traditions Beliefs Chhuttai Chhuttai Hunchha Tara Sanatan Gyan Vaneko Saara Brahmanda Kai Sabai Bidhi Bidhaan Ko Sangbidhaan Ho. Even Christians, Muslims Haru Pani Sanatani Nai Hun.. Uni Haru Ko Tradition Matra Farak, Manusya Dekhi Janawaar Samma, Sabai Sanaatani Ho. ॐ द्यौः शान्तिरन्तरिक्षं शान्तिः पृथिवी शान्तिरापः शान्तिरोषधयः शान्तिः । वनस्पतयः शान्तिर्विश्वेदेवाः शान्तिर्ब्रह्म शान्तिः सर्वं शान्तिः शान्तिरेव शान्तिः सा मा शान्तिरेधि ॥ ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥ HariOm ll

[@vividimagination5018]

Ra, Dharma Maanne Kura Haina Garne Kura Ho,

[@hariprasadbhandari1392]

Logical explanation, it might be the reality.

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@@hariprasadbhandari1392 that's hilarious.

[@hamrochannel1029]

i observed all podcast about Newa podcast what a interesting 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@ashokdangol7457]

चाेभार भन्दा तलकाे Bagmati civilization बारेमा खाेज?

[@maheshshahi8986]

Good .

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@maheshshahi8986 but still to be doubted, as many a dozen things are trying to be whitewashed by the person. This is unfair.

[@op-wn9oc]

@@sikasbkoju3715 if your are so called expert why are you commenting and yapping like a bot and not there talking in podcast about your fabricated stupid knowledge.

[@AshokAmatya-bu9iy]

K.s presentation very appreciable but in our country nepal there not sciencetific research team with technologies in our educational department.

[@rameshsrt]

Totally hypothetical

[@chandanishrestha8389]

Please invite Dr. Kalpana Shrestha and Dr. Gopal Dhaubanjar

[@Skandakumar2]

DR.paid actors i don't trust DR.

[@RaeesInterior]

As like if one Nepali gets PR in Australia then he/she becomes the citizen of Australia / thus he,she become Australian though he is from Nepal . Same case is with the term Newa,Newar . नैवाल - नेवाल - नेपाल - नेपालमणडल etc . At the Era the people who lived here were called Newa as we all in the date of today call ourselves Nepali the pronunciation, meaning has been different cause Nepal was the land of Buddha Field ( An energized field ) and every sage , the ruler etc gave the meaning to Nepala to describe the glory , mystic of this holy land . Newa is not just a particular clan or group but the whole Nepal from east to west . Today inlack of deep rooted research Newa term has been a particular group and just been divided in particular part Kathmandu, Lalitpur, Bhaktapur only . Which is not right. The Naiwala , Newa Valley was exactly what today’s Nepal Map is . As like today the parliamentary system is changing, new prime ministers are changing ruling the country same thing happened at those era too . 🌸🌸🌸

[@gurungbruce4636]

नेवारहरुले आफ्नो नामको पछाडी नेवार थर नै लेख्दैन रहेछ।अनि नेवारहरु आधा ब्राह्मण आधा नेवार जस्तो लाग्छ किनकि धर्म पनि हिन्दू सस्कार र चलन पुजा पाठ अनि थर पनि जस्तै जोशी राजभण्डारी ब्राह्मण करण भएको पाइन्छ।

[@hikeshealthfriendshipsnatu9018]

नेवार भनेको थर नै होइन..नेवार भनेको मैथिली भने जस्तै समुदाय हो..यसभित्र ब्राम्हण, क्षत्रिय सबै प्रकारका थर छन् । नेपालमा हिन्दु देव देवी र संस्कारलाई प्राचीनकालदेखि जोगाएर राखेको नै नेवार समुदायले हो ।

[@Sora_Dora969]

So Besically there where Enku Pitang before we settled in ktm valley :🤔

[@deepmanandhar]

comment herda ta euta euta lai bolaera arko podcast garauna parcha jasto cha sab jana expert !

[@dilashamaharjan2905]

Govinda bol Shrestha sir lai podcast ma lyaunu na please 🙏

[@szpradhan6572]

Mr Malla does not have a good knowledge of the Nepal Valley civilization. He is talking about the hunter gatherer stage of mankind and that too his knowledge is poor. He is highlighting the Kirats as an important heritage of the Nepal Valley civilization. Actually no one talks about the Kirat ancestry amongst the Nepal Valley citizens because no one knows about any connection. Historically maybe an insignificant input may have been there but he is talking as if there was a major contribution from the Kirat influence! He talks about eating pigs as a Kirat way of life! And he is describing eating pigs as if this was the norm! As far we know about the Nepal Valley food habits, we do not see people eating pigs at all! (except maybe by the non-classified ( abarna) rung of the society, namely Chyamikhala and the Podekhala who used to live in the perilhery of the city limits). He describes the Panchabali requirement of five types of animal sacrifices where pigs are also essential. For your information the Shah dynasty from the Gorkha Kingdom also did Panchabali and pigs were required! Also it is the norm when Kings dd Panchabali in the many kingdoms of India! It did not mean the Khas ate pigs or the Kings of India ate pigs all the time! Panchabali is a Tantric thing and the Akash Bhairav is also a Tantric deity, a swaroop of Shiva. Tantric rituals allow meat, alcohol and other prohibited activities and Mr Malla is alluding that these practices came from the Kirat way of life. ( Which is totally wrong!) Only thing I agree is that the Nepal Valley people are diverse, they have genetic origins from the Central and South Asian gene pool which includes Bengali and North East Asian, Central Asian and South Asian in varying degrees. Also a significant portion of the East Asian gene pool is present in many dwellers. Thus some have South and North Indian features and some have Tibeto- Burman features and some have admixture of both. It just goes to show that there was a lot of interbreeding between these different gene pools over time and with the advent of migrants from the Indian plains as well as from the Nepali hills. So to classify the Nepal Valley people as a separate ethnic group is neither scientific nor socially correct. These dwellers have a common language and a more or less common religious and cultural practice ( not identical because religion was different and there was stratification of the society as well). Best is to acknowledge them as a layered society who had language and cultural evolution over time and the significant part of evolution was overwhelmingly from the Lichhavi and Malla era when the Buddhist and Vedic Santana way of life was introduced into the Valley in a significant manner.

[@prabhuewai9905]

@@szpradhan6572 thank god, at least you accept newars have north east asian genes. You seem to be quite distressed by pig thing! Is that because you believe pig eating is for inferior people? Most advanced, civilized peoples in developed world ( Japanese, Europeans, North Americans, etc. ) eat pig( pork, ham, bacon) Mr Malla is not saying people like you are eating pig now - he is talking about past practices. To understand any south asian society or ethnicity you must understand a phenomenon called Sanskritisation. BTW historical kirats were people with east asian/ north east asian genes. To appreciate what Mr Malla is saying one needs to put his ego and Sanskritised thinking aside.

[@szpradhan6572]

​@prabhuewai9905 I think your views are making it seem like eating pigs or any animal is inferior or superior. Maybe for you that is how you interpret food habits. Not for us. I do eat pork and happily too and we enjoy the taste. There is nothing superior or inferior about that. But historically this was not the norm and it is only a modern and recent fad ie eating pigs. The fact of the matter is Panchabali was practiced by Hindoo Kings and royalties and one of the animal sacrifices happened to be a pig. Mr Malla tends to imply eating pigs is a common societal thing and common to everyone. That my dear friend is what I am trying to point out. Nothing communal or superior or inferior. Maybe guys like you are programmed to think like that or maybe it was the only thing you could fathom. Panchabali was practiced by the Gorkha kings and also other Hindoo royalty in India. That doesn't mean the Khas or the Gorkha kings ate pigs all the time or that all Hindoo subjects ate pork then. And to link the Kirats in and say oh see those were Kirat practices! I don't buy that nor will any one who is interested in anthropology or history for that matter. It is wiser to get the negative communal vibes out from intellectual discussions. We are discussing social norms here, their origins and possible logical explanations 0:16 . Hope that clears things.

[@prabhuewai9905]

@@szpradhan6572If you read your first comment you will realize how much words and time you have used around pig. I thought you were being defensive and didn't like Mr Malla's findings based on evidence ( Mr Malla has clearly put forward his reasons and evidences). Opinion is only opinion - anyone can say or claim anything. Without evidence only fools can be fooled or misled. Do you know Shahs of gorkha had Magars as their priests , and Magars eat pork? As far as I know thakuri and Nepal's ranas eat wild pigs. If you are really interested in anthropology and history of Nepal and South Asia I sincerely advise you to read about Sanskritisation seriously.

[@szpradhan6572]

​@@prabhuewai9905 Thank you for your suggestion. For your information I am indeed very interested in anthropology, history and evolution of societies. And I am glad you too are interested. I do not read or seek knowledge to prove a point. Just try to get the feel of how societies evolve and develop. I see no reason to prove everything as a conspiracy for Sanskritization. It does not need to be that. Religious texts were either written in Pali or the Sanskrit language in the Indian subcontinent. Some were oral recitations like the Mundung for the Rais and Limbus in the form of story telling. Nepal Bhasa was also used for writing inscriptions and some translations of the religious texts (as well as Tibetan for the Tibetan diaspora, regional languages such as Tamil is quite frequently used in the South and in the modern era colloquial languages are much more used to translate and convey comprehensive narratives of religious texts as well as historical events...) Point is everything should not be viewed as a conspiracy to Sanskritize and then to justify your point of view. We should have no ulterior motive to distort history and events to sort of suit your narrative. Anyways thank you for your effort to communicate and engage in a civil discussion. Appreciate that. 🙏🏼😊

[@ilikedogs4332]

Mr. Malla used to be an expert in Asian studies center under Tribhuvan university and still an authoritative figure. If you say he does not have knowledge in his field, you just fucked yourself. Good job.

[@bishnustha6850]

Newar haru pani gajabkai chha kohi newar pig khana huna gharma ta jhan chhiraunai hunna bhanchha ani harek samaya raango khanchha kul puza ma khanai hunna gharma leraunai hunna bhanchha ani haass puja garchha...hami pani tehi garchhau

[@ashokdangol7457]

गाेपालबंश भन्दा पनि पहिला फर्पिङ, चापागाउँ, मातातीर्थ, खाेकना, बुंगमति, बज्रगाेगिनी मा नेवाः हरू रहेकाे मानिन्छ

[@ravikantmanandhar4660]

It is most unfortunate that the self claimed Newa leaders did nothing to stop the encroachment of the Bagmati River . They seem to work as cadres of the top political parties that have built a strong base for the institutionalized bribery at every agency of the state .

[@Ghanashyam666]

लिच्छवी विहारको वैशालीबाट आएको भनिए पनि नेपालमा कोही पनि लिच्छवी पाइन्न । वैशाली मै पनि पाइन्न । पहिलो लिच्छवी राजा मानदेवको मूर्ति हेर्दा किरात वर्णको स्पस्ट छ । कि त्यो बेला वैशालीमा मानदेवको मूर्तिमा भए जस्तै मानिसको बसोबास थियो भन्नु सकिन्छ । रक्सी र सुँगुरको मासु खाने नेवारको चलन या आफ्नै थियो या किरातबाट लिएको भन्ने टिप्पणी हुँदा नेवार नै किरातको छुटेको सन्तान पनि हुनसक्छ भन्नु छुटाउनु कन्जुस्याइ त होइन ! अनि मल्ल के सुन्दर ज्यूले व्यक्त गुर्नुभएका अभिव्यक्तीहरु अत्यन्तै गहन छन् । तर, आफ्नो अनुहार आर्य मूलको संग मेल खान्छ भन्नु चाहीँ अलि मिलेन ।

[@Rajasaab153]

@@Ghanashyam666 Nepal ko history easy and Clear cha. Pachi Khas ra Saha dynasty kaal ma Bahun haru le Afno ichha anusar history lekhi diyeko le dherai Complicated baneko ho.. Ajai majja le Sachayera Proper banauna sakincha…

[@sugampandit724]

Timro naam ghanashyam kina?

[@user-ob3uc6fd3d]

It is said Bijukche are descendents of Licchavis

[@angrymaniac53]

Well like the guy in the video said, byajankar are believed to be descendants of kirat dynasty. And you need to realize newa community is diverse as hell. Shrestha itself is super diverse enough to call itself as sub-community of newa community. It is kinda mistake to say newa maybe lost child of kirat because while newa was influenced by kirat dynasty and has groups who are descendants of kirat, those descendants occupy barely few numbers of total newa population. And it's not just kirat who has mingled with newa becoming newa people but malla and lichivi people too. At this point newa is just too big and diverse to consider that it is from a certain group like kirat or malla stuff.

[@SabinGC-s1h]

यो पोड्कास्ट मा मल्ल ज्यु ले २,००० पटक भन्दा "चाहि" भन्नु भयो । 😜😜

[@Akshara_mission]

मत्लब पनि तेस्तै छ 😊😊😊

[@gangamankhapay1428]

Bhaktapur ko mahakali haina nawadurga ho sir

[@faksmile]

Now, the people of Balen City are called Newar? 😢

[@sudhirkhadka8625]

🙏🙏

[@YogeshwarAmatya12345]

the gorge at chaubar is parallel hence water alone could not have been the reason if water was the reason for the gorge in chaubar, the gorge would have been V shaped

[@ashokdangol7457]

सर्व प्रथम उपत्यकाकाे दक्षिणका कटुवाल दहकाे गल्छी बाट पनि काठमाण्डाैकाे पानी निस्केकाे हुनु पर्छ

[@ashokdangol7457]

पुरानाे नेवाः ईतिहास पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले जलाउन लगाएकाे भन्छन्, अाफ्नाे नयाँ ईतिहास लेखाउन

[@pramodaryal965]

Some where the Shahs are termed to be have been originated from Muslim where Swine is despised. In addition, when there was a need for slaughtering Swine in Aalam Devi in Syangja and it was brought from Ridi of Gulmi which might have crossed the taboo from where Magar Priest became and went upto Mankamana. Aalam Devi is Kul Devi of Shahs. Not with the documents but what heard there. So, the amalgation could have been.

[@hemantalimbu5355]

Kasko bishwas garnu 10 jana ko podcast here 10 thariko kura 😢

[@charmsmisunderstood]

He is talking sungur sacrifice called mu;baa

[@sublime9525]

Kati dherai Newar Newar garira yo channel ma. Ma ni Newar ho. Ji Newa kha.

[@enfeeyano]

Sunka chwon 🤣

[@sublime9525]

@@enfeeyano 😂😂

[@sikasbkoju3715]

​@@enfeeyano bolna aaudaina bhanney na bola na bhai, 😂😂

[@memestudio56]

तपाईंलाई थाहा छ?? काथ/काठ (kath)भोटिया/भोटे नेवारहरुबाट निकालिएको एउटा जाति थियो जसले गाईको मासु खान्थे। सायद यो समय लिच्छवि कालिन समयको अन्त्य तिर हुनु पर्दछ। त्यसबेला यिनीहरूलाई काठमाडौं छिर्न रोक लगाइएको थियो। यो सँगै मल्ल कालको सुरुवात भएको हुनुपर्दछ कि, जसमा काथ/काठ भोटिया बाहेकका नेवारलाई आफ्नो सभ्यतालाई झन् माथि पुर्याउन विशेष योगदान दिए। अनि अर्को कुरा भोटे भनिने हरु अहिले तामाङहरु जो छन् उनीहरूको प्रचलनमा पनि संघीय स्वरूपको स्थानीय स्वायत्तता अधिक रहने समाज र प्रचलन एकदमै बढी थियो। अहिले खासै पाइँदैन। जसलाई चोहाे परम्परा भनिन्छ। सायद यिनीहरूले ती नै लिच्छवि बाट सिकेका समाज सञ्चालनका तरिका वा विधि पो थियो की!!! यो सँगै नेवारले मनाउने मोहनी र तामाङले मनाउने मेनीङ उस्तै पो थियो कि भन्ने नी लाग्छ। समयसँगै यसको मनाउने प्रचलन फरक पर्न गयो कि।

[@sikasbkoju3715]

@memestudio56 yes, absolutely, that's why newa community people consider cow as sacred meat which has high quality use for medicinal purposes too. White meat is best-known meat in the world.

[@dreamadventure8220]

South Indian refugees lai thaha xaina raixa timra South Indian haru ley pani Gai khanxan vanera 😂😂😂

[@memestudio56]

@@dreamadventure8220 यी घटनाक्रम त्यही हिन्दूकरण गरिएको समयमा हो कि भन्ने मेरो आकलन हो। सुरुमा त सबैले गाई गोरुको मासु खाने रहेछन। पछि चाहिँ धार्मिक भन्दा पनि सामाजिक रूपमा यसलाई नै जोतिन्छ, दुध पनि खाइन्छ भनेर मासु नखाने नियम बनाएको रहेछ। यसको विरुद्धमा तामाङ चाहिँ पहिले देखिनै रहँदै आएको देखिन्छ। अर्को शब्दमा हेर्ने हो भने, तामाङको आर्थिक अवस्था खस्केको नै गाई को मासु खाएर हो, जसलाई राज्यले अवहेलित गरिरह्यो।

[@sureshasuresha6520]

Newa Christian र newa muslim ले नेवाः संस्कृति, परम्परा, संस्कार मनाउदैनन्।

[@pasanglama9699]

I want see new eps topic about medical history

[@krishnamanmaharjan6753]

Din bhari kam garda thakai nalagos bhaner jad raksi baneko hola

[@dilllims3103]

शुरूवात दिनमा नेवारहरुको धर्म के थियो? उतिबेला का नेवार हरु प्रकृति पुजक थिए वा हिन्दु बौद्ध धर्मि थिए। असलि नेवार को नस्ल आर्यन वा मङोल हो?

[@gopalprasaddhakal7713]

ब्यन्जनकारलाइ नेवारी मा तेपे भनिन्छ।खुस भनेको तण्डुकार हो।

[@funkbudhaagurung9649]

gurung haru ma ni j ma pani ...jaad use huncha ni... not only in rai limbu and newar,, but we all nepali... Jainepal

[@shailenlimbu5449]

सबै समुदायले आफ्नो समुदायलाई महान र सम्पन्न नै सम्झिन्छन र हुन्छ पनि । नेवार आफैमा कुनै जाति होइनन । नेवार आफैमा धेरै किरात र केही अन्य जाति मिलेर बनिएको मिश्रित जाति हो ।

[@prabhuewai9905]

Testo swa-ghosit mahaanata khaane kura maa jodchhan kati kuwaa kaa bhyaguta haru! Mr Malla is telling the truth.

[@manishmaharjan6762]

सबै जाति मा मिसावट हुन्छ। नेवारी मा ८०% भन्दा बढी किराँती छ।यो हिसाबले नेवारहरू पनि जनजाति हैन मूलबासी नै हो।

[@pratikking2272]

@@manishmaharjan6762 Kirati haru rai limbu hoina. Licchavi sanga harepachi purbi nepal hudai bengal paseko Bauri (bhil) jati ho. Chogyal haru lai sattachyut garna matrai kirat identity aapnaeko ho. Newar ma sino tibtian culture tibetian ra mainland chinese haru sita ko admixture ho.

[@sher_singh7273]

​@@manishmaharjan6762णेवार समुदाय मा थोरै किराती मुल का, तर धेरै अरु हरु छन । कारीब ५, ७ प्रतिसत मात्र किराती मुल का होलान । हिन्दूहरुले मनुस्मृती भित्राएपछी, यि किराती हरु लाई, तल्लो जातिमा पारेका छ्न । सोध आबसेक छ, गर्नु होला ।

[@nepalimonnepalikto1080]

​@@manishmaharjan6762100000 % shi vannu vayo hajur lay

[@bhushanshrestha2732]

नेवार कुनै जात होईन । यो एक समुदाय या समूह हो । किन भने काठमाडु उपत्यका लाई कान्तिपुर ये नेपा अथवा ने पाल या ने उत्तर तिर बाट आएका होईन । र अन्त्यमा ज्यापू कुनै जात होइन नेवारी भाषा मा ज्या अर्थात काम हो भने पु को अर्थ बीउ ( seeds ) हो ।

[@surfsupsurgsup]

Newars are the most stunning looking people of Nepal I grew up around them they had this turkic look but genetic studies shows more of dravidian or bihari with east asian i thought they were more of khas+east asian idk

[@pratikking2272]

Shresthas are from karnataka

[@sikasbkoju3715]

​@@pratikking2272no doubt about that.

[@Skandakumar2]

​@@pratikking2272shakya from bihar .Bajracharya bengali from india

[@Skandakumar2]

​@@sikasbkoju3715ani tapai ko jaat kaha bata ho india china mangolia africa kaha ho refugee ho ta

[@Skandakumar2]

​@@pratikking2272tapai kahako refugee ho.tyo ni bhannupareyo.nepal ko sabai refugee raicha.

[@asispakhrin4671]

अप्पो दिपो भवः

[@Vaasturaj5]

in my point of view Newar come from Bali indonesia. I may be wrong.

[@KtmGuy911]

The thing I don’t like about his theory is he is putting all the NEWARS in the same bucket. First dissect the Newar community and then derive. Newar community itself has lots of variants than the whole people of Nepal . Not all the people follow eating pork. So his base is wrong and so of course his theory.

[@jeevankrishnashrestha]

Mala k Sundar G le ak bises Newark haruko matra ulekha garnu bhayoo, Newar bhetra autai chanad parba maa Pani bhebin kisim KO prakriya haru huunxha, jatow ki bell bibaha sabai le gar dai na, garnu parne jaat ra garnu naparne jaat Pani huunxha, kasai le sungur ko masu khanxha kasai khadai na, sabai le kalo tika matra laudai na ratio pani lauxha,😢 bises kalo chahee hola tyas sangai ratio pani lauxha lixhabi kal dekhee nai ho, yahee ho newar ko bisesta, ratoo teeka ko itihas padhanu hola.xhetri haru le as ungur KO masu khadai na Bhanu galat ho, bandel ko rup ma thakuri haru le khanxha, suru ma ta sabai jungal baat lyayar khan the Yoo, Katee junjal baat lyar khane, bhane ra ghar paluwa banayoo. Khusa bhane KO tandukar KO byanjanKar hoina.

[@keeranmalakar3905]

Its wrong description the first human civilization in nepa valley was in shikharapur nowdays its call pharping

[@lakhanshahi3637]

Newar culture bare video prastut garidinu bhayekoma Pratrakar ji lae dhanyabad Subhaya tara bidwan sundar ji le newari bhoj ma basne sabai jati sahit kasae jati bhani jana jaan abhibyakti diyekoma aapati birodha janaunchchu kinaki Newar samudayama Muslim word ko kasae, newar jati ma chchandai chchaina , sayad Khadgi jati bhann khojeko hola tyo galat kura ho , Newar jaati ko mana bhandne kura ho. Aaenda kasae sabda prayog nagaridinu hola

[@sureshsharma-ml5sm]

Newar haru ko biha bari garda afnai thar ma garne garchan bhanne satya ho. Aru barg ma so nishedh cha. Yo satya ho ki hoena.

[@pasangksherpa8889]

Tara fact kura garnu sir ma 34 yer pugeu tapai dherai young raixa

[@pasangksherpa8889]

I am talking abootb gopall nacsa

[@hupendrajoshi6236]

मचाबले न्यना तयागु छगु धा:पु "च्यासले खुस सित निस जक बाॅ:कि दनि* धागु या अर्थ ब्यन्जनकार त किराँती थें ताल दाजुया खॅ न्यःनाबले ।

[@Namaste775]

बशुधैव कुटुम्बकम भनेको के रहेछ ?

[@dilmayasubba6531]

Chagunara is a so called bhairab, chagunara currupted and became chagu narayan by begali newar because they are true hindus

[@hamrochannel1029]

भैरव र यलम्बरको मुर्ति चै किन फरक फरक कहिले इस्तापना गर्यो तोइए कुरा सोदिनुना दाई तर हिन्दु र किरात को चै पुरानो दुस्मनी रैछ tara ahila co hindu darmalambe lai vanco hoina hai. kahila Dr.kesab man sakya lai bolauna dai

[@Rajasaab153]

Bhairav Buddhist Dharmapal ho.. Yalambar ek Himali Tribal man.. Dubai Jana ( Bhairav n Yalambar) Buddhist dharma lai promotion gartyo tai bayera Kathmandu ma Bhairav ra Yalambar lai mix gari diyeko ho.. Kirat haru le Buddha dharma Lai Support garya Bayera Hindu haru le history bangayera jpt history lekhi diyeko ho.. kirat ( kham bong bas) haru Nepal ma 300 BC to 140 BC tira ayeko huna sakcha..

[@sovitbajracharya7396]

Can't unhear "matlab chai" after every sentence. Plus this episode had nothing new everything he said was an echo of previous guests on the podcast

[@puranprasad1015]

Newars are dravids. In Kerala they are called Nayars. Much work been done on Dravids. Read such research works. Their DNA is Dravid.

[@hariprasadbhandari1392]

Origin of alcohol came from fungal effect on food.

[@SYU213]

Janko tin choti matra hoina char choti samma garchha saya barsa ma mato ko ghyampo ma paser tyaslai phutayar niklinchha

[@SYU213]

Gurung magar newar sunuwar rai limbu tamang sherpa chhantyal eneeharu yautai jattee ho kee jasto dekhinchha kina bhane eneeharu ko bhasa dherai milchha bhot burmeli group ko bhasa bolchha

[@manilimbu3864]

शेर्पा शब्द खस भाषा को जस्तो लाग्छ