SHIMMER (S1E10) Risqué Scenes, Convenient Concussions, Invisible Special Effects & DC Easter Eggs

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This week Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum explore if all in Shimmer is gold, as they revisit Episode #10 of Smallville!
While the scores at the end might not reflect it, the guys fondly remember shooting scenes with Kelly Brook as Victoria Hardwick and talk about their favorite and least favorite locations to shoot at, as the iconic ‘barn sunset’ makes several appearances.
Michael talks about working again with former co star Azura Skye and similarities in this week’s storyline to his real life.
Tom talks about how you could see them still ‘figuring it out’ with the invisibility special effects this early on in the series and how we start to see the rise of convenient concussions in the show.
Let us know what you’d rate this one!
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10 - Shimmer: Risqué Scenes, Convenient Concussions, Invisible Special Effects & DC Easter Eggs #smallville #talkville #season1

[@lizzyhaze]

This was such a nostalgic episode! Season 1 takes me back to simpler times. I appreciate you guys putting in the work and the time to make this happen. It’s such a treat to us fans! Will be back every single week.

[@chand911]

I mean, this was all happening during 9/11 and the start of the invasion of Iraq.... Simpler?

[@evascott9469]

Simpler Times!! YES!! back when the world wasn't on fire!!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

thanks for returning :)

[@blangemanofficial1664]

@@chand911 well i think it s a personal statement, she was probably just younger/had less responsabilities etc hence the simpler times

[@lizzyhaze]

@@chand911 yeah, I didn’t watch Smallville until like 2006. I was only 8 when 9/11 happened, so I was in like junior high when I started the show for the first time. They were simpler times for me, for sure!

[@summerdavis3437]

“All my work! Concert tickets, party at the Luthor mansion. What are you doing, son?!” 😂

[@JH-yg5oo]

I love the line where Lana says “we missed it.” Because they missed the sunset but more importantly missed their chance to be more than friends at that point.

[@ChristopherToro]

It's hilarious how Micheal and Tom consistently defend their characters no matter how ridiculous their actions are.

[@matthewkinter280]

I remember begging my mom to get me as many dvds of smallville as she could and she got me all 10 seasons and I was so grateful. They got me through middle school being the thing I would come home and watch everyday excited every time

[@TalkVillePodcast]

hope you still dig it today ❤️

[@Alex-q7u5x]

Michael:" I thought Lex told his guards to let Clark in anytime" Clark comes in into Lex's mansion unannounced in season 5-7 Lex:"We aren't even friends anymore. Who let him in?"

[@RedK5]

Lol

[@mops515]

Please Michael, never stop being critical - It's a really really important voice to have to balance out the other perspectives. Don't listen to people who don't like it when you're more negative than everyone else. Every review show needs someone like that.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

aye aye ❤️

[@evalramman7502]

Yeah, only way to the truth.

[@ryandeffley7652]

That's true when it's warranted. There are plenty of eps that deserve scrutiny. 💯 But there are also times where Mike is letting his critical nature of his own scenes effect what he rates the ep as a whole. Or he panders a bit like rating Craving a bit too high because of Amy Adams. Take Rogue for example. Many consider it S1's best ep and a standout of the series. Even Mike was giving it lots of props like saying that it's one of the best performances that Schneider gave for the whole show. But then he winds up wanting to give it 1/2 a rose largely because he didn't like his kissing scenes. LOL

[@curtisdunn1854]

@Renato Mento "best review podcast in the world" why? Because it's smallville?

[@mops515]

​@@ryandeffley7652 Mate, he gave it 1 rose, not half. He said he was debating whether to give half or 1, but settled on 1. And he never brought up his kissing scenes when explaining his score. Also this is his opinion. He's saying how he feels about an episode, and opinions in a review are only worth something if they are honest. You're saying he should pretend to like something more than he does? He has his own reasons; You don't have to agree with him, but you shouldn't tell him his opinion should be different than what it is. That's dumb

[@mailiooo]

Love the Lionel and Lex interactions in this season. I also did enjoy how Michael pointed the line “We missed it.” plays on through the entire series cus that’s so true

[@TalkVillePodcast]

yup. loved that line

[@rendellbarreto2382]

One of the best phrases on smallville is in this episode when Lionel is talking with Lex, 'Empires are not brought down by outside forces - they are destroyed by weaknesses from within' season1 episode 10 Lionel Luthor 15:30 minutes

[@FRLLI.]

My wife's father is in ER with sepsis, this episode is taking my mind off the everything. Thank you guys. Have a good week.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

glad we can help. hope you hang in there ❤️

[@joeprewitt8318]

This was a good episode I give it 2 🌹 because the scene with Lana and Clark wad great and the action scene at the end.

[@FRLLI.]

@@joeprewitt8318 I enjoyed the episode as well I hope you have a good weekend brother..

[@dg8708]

This may seem archaic or antiquated, and I am sorry for that. Could the medical professionals deem whether or not a tincture to treat sepsis with 20mg Ephedrine, 370mg Guaifenesin, 875mg Aspirin, 85mg Caffeine, and Broad-Spectrum antibiotics be helpful?

[@MyFriendlyPup]

@@TalkVillePodcast New light equals burning in hell.

[@marialowery914]

Me and my hubby would crack up how everyone could walk into the mansion unannounced😂😂

[@TheMrsGeorgeHarrison]

Knowing how much work Tom put it for that shirtless scene, I thank him for his sacrifice. 😂

[@mickeyc6595]

It's nice to have these in the middle of the week instead of the weekend. Makes it nice to have something to look forward to on Wednesday. I enjoyed the interaction between Clark and Lex in this episode, you can see how different their worlds are with Clark wanting a relationship with someone he cares for and to Lex, relationships are more a means to an end.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

well said ❤️

[@debra9908]

Good observation! 👏

[@-M0LE]

Mid week madness😂

[@CM_54]

Pete should have walked in when the paint fell on the invisible man and said “Damn…who’s that?”

[@nerdydirty936]

Can we just talk about how easily Chloe can pull up ANYTHING on a school computer? Lol

[@drdiabetes7469]

"Shitting in a steam place?" Needs to be a T-shirt

[@lamiaislam1]

no fr he’s so funny 💀

[@Brook11223]

I love the subtle Jack Nickolson's "Well, Well..." Rosey lol.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

always Jack ha

[@khathide22nd]

30:11-30:25 I loved this random banter. And Tom's French 🤣🤣🤣

[@lilymiranda4381]

This has become my favorite podcast. Nothing like reliving your favorite show through the eyes of its stars & Ryan!😂

[@TalkVillePodcast]

love to hear it ❤️

[@derekarmy2047]

Ryan’s pretty kool.

[@punkrockgypsyart]

Best part of this episode? Michael going "hey dad blehlelelele"

[@mydragonseyes8177]

Thanks for doing this. It brings me back to the days of having everyone over for Smallville nights. This makes me feel like I have friends again.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

got a few here pal ❤️

[@chiantiprice92]

“Without further a due” 👏- fav line of Rosie

[@FlyingWithSpurts]

Funny you mentioned the seat belt thing, it was an episode of Smallville where John is driving a truck and slams on the brakes, sliding sideways to a stop while opening the door and "undoing" his seatbelt all at the same time when I asked my mother "where did they find this guy?". I never watched Dukes of Hazzard, but I knew of it. She replied "That's Bo Duke you doofus!" Now I know how the seatbelt part was so easy to do.

[@RedK5]

I’ve watched Duke of Hazzard because of Smallville

[@timarensdorf3630]

Tom really amped up the background behind now compared to beginning of the podcast :) I like it.

[@khathide22nd]

😳I didn't even notice. That's awesome.

[@jonathansmith6438]

This was one of my favorite episodes for the emotional factor that Clark shows when it comes to Lana and Whitney in the end. He proves his heart for good over all is greater than his own personal desires. The sacrifice feels heavy at the end when he’s sitting alone knowing he passed up his chance being again alone for the sake of what is his nemesis to Lana. I just felt it personal for me growing up put in similar situations And i think i learned from Clark a lot that we can’t sacrifice our morals for passion.

[@cidmontenegro8225]

Did not expect the Matt Foley impersonation. Top drawer!

[@leannepritchett6323]

Johnny Beef cakes, Lex’s pool skills, John’s kick ass performance, fun banter between y’all and I’m only 20 minutes in! This podcast truly is the gift that keeps giving. Thanks guys. You are the best 🙏🏻❤️❤️

[@alwaysxnever]

Couldn't have expressed it any better. 😁

[@michelleking8302]

Good Ol' Johnny Beef Cakes 🤣

[@leannepritchett6323]

@@michelleking8302 🤣🤣😊

[@TalkVillePodcast]

hahaha johnny beef cakes. lord

[@ryandeffley7652]

Were you the Leanne that called in to ask about any re-writes 20 years later?

[@thisisevapau]

Vancouverite here 🙋🏻‍♀️. I think you guys just have to come visit us again. Weather is always unpredictable but you have a lot of Fans here. We're so proud to say that Smallville was filmed in our beautiful British Columbia. 🇨🇦

[@fermarquez1409]

Oh man, the last sequence made me feel so sad. Clark looking through the telescope to Lana and Whitney, and then Clark in the shadows with the music and all, I really felt that loneliness/sadness. 😓

[@erikakertson127]

The “not too shabs” talk, the talk about D and B? I can’t with you guys, you’re so hilarious! 😂😭💕

[@chloe2264]

"Whaddya think, eh? Not shabbs..." 🤣🤣🤣

[@johnhart8856]

"Clark Kent - he may not show up on time, but goddam it he shows up!"

[@eyeDavid]

Michael is like Paul Rudd, dude doesn’t age

[@redenavari]

He just gets hairier

[@devjoshi8495]

Thank god you did this podcast I have always wanted you guys to dissect the series!!! I am always gonna support this podcast!!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

you're the best!!!!

[@-M0LE]

@@TalkVillePodcast what about me

[@chloechadwick7945]

I love this podcast. Can't wait to discuss season 4 episode 13, "Pariah".

[@heatherpavich8934]

I love Michael saying he hadn't ate yet and then a minute later he's eating nerds by the handful. That made me smile. Love the podcast, keep it up guys!

[@xDeboramary]

🌹🌹 for this episode! I didn’t know how much I needed talkville until this podcast was born. It’s like my date on Wednesday’s 😂 Thank you ❤️

[@TalkVillePodcast]

solid score Deb ❤️

[@vivianbloom166]

Fun! Loved Michael trying to talk about special effects in the locker room scene and Ryan going: "BEEFCAKES!" (Which is what everyone remembers about that scene!)

[@audrajohnston2506]

Thanks Ryan! We all noticed!

[@derekpeterson7412]

I love this podcast! Something wondrous to always look forward to. I love this! My 11 year old daughter (who’s been doing the rewatch with me) said from the get go, “It’s definitely the brother!” Fun to watch her getting into it so much. Many thanks and love to you guys! 🌹 🌹

[@TalkVillePodcast]

haha love that. solid score bud

[@lindzeyward2116]

Love that!!

[@RedK5]

How did she know?

[@derekpeterson7412]

@@RedK5 one too many thrillers for her, I guess.. 🤣

[@RedK5]

@@derekpeterson7412 her at 11 is smarter then I was at 16 because I was surprised

[@john.c.munoz04]

Not only is it my 18th birthday. Not only did I get the complete series of Smallville for my birthday. I also get to here my two favorite characters from a show talk about my favorite show on my 18th birthday. Thank y’all so much for this podcast! I love it! I remember picking up the seasons at blockbuster and would constantly watch because Superman was my hero. Thanks again! Y’all are great! Keep up the good work!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

happy birthday buddy ❤️

[@mYAHWEH]

The barn scene with Kristen and Clark really inspired me as a photographer. It really let me see the subtle light color can give and beautiful truth of twilight time of day, really changed how I saw color photography and light quality. To this day, it inspires me and comes across inspiration and influence of ideas and quality.

[@JamesP145]

My favorite scene was when Lex described the point of the watch to Clark. I think it showed a lot about who lex is in that he doesn’t lose or that he finds a way to always win. For napoleon to paint his dead mother and bring her into his life “through sheer force of will” it relates a lot to Lex and who he is in general. His will and determination to accomplish whatever he puts in front of him is what led him to becoming the Lex Luthor we all know.

[@vbrandy7088]

Always a treat listening to you guys talk about Smallville's episodes. I was like Michael watching this episode I really wanted Clark and Lana to kiss but aunt Nell had to ruin the moment damn it lol, great build up and tension btw the two. I also loved how the friendship between Clark and Lex gets deeper in this episode with how Lex opened up to Clark about his mother and Lex as the wing man for Clark was the best. I thought it was well done how Lex handled Amy stalking him. This episode had some pretty cool visuals effects too.

[@ninjakid450]

so glad I randomly discovered this podcast. What a great excuse to rewatch the best Superman TV show from the start. I'm up to ep10 after a couple of days, dreading having to wait a week for each release of the podcast. Thanks for doing this guys, catch up in a couple seasons. P.S. you missed a save on this one - the jock who was rude in the beginning was saved by topless clark in the lcoker room.

[@thisisone9529]

Every Smallville story has a relationship between the meteor power and the person that gets that power. The power of invisibility was an observational commentary on feeling invisible in social circles. These kinds of thoughtful tie-ins are one of the things that made the writing more dynamic.

[@LoveMyCountry-2006]

I love this!!! Every episode we play a family game where we try to guess what will appear first: kryptonite, knock out, death, or kissing. It's been so fun!!

[@greggwatkinsjr.4308]

Every Wednesday morning I enjoy waking up and watch the new episode of Talkville, can't wait to see when you guys talk about Ryan, I thought the kid who played him was such a great actor.😀

[@richsouthwood6548]

Oh my gosh Rosie you are cracking me up with the D & B's!! 😂😂😂😂😂 That would CERTAINLY be an interesting bar to grab a drink at!! Lol

[@davidfergusson5559]

"Vancouver is slightly cold and rainy for a couple months" *laughs in Scottish*

[@stephendavidson7256]

I just finished watching the part with Clark and lex in the final episode, they are awesome together on the show and as friends doing this pod cast. You guys are great!

[@CK-jb4lu]

I would love to see a count of the number of knockouts throughout the series, particularly regarding characters close to Clark like Lana who need to conveniently be unconscious while Clark uses his powers. That's got to be a lot of concussions over the years!

[@roserichards3598]

YES, they need to add that when they do the save/death counts. Lex and Lois had to have either their bell rung, or memories wiped how many times to keep from learning Clark's secret?! Loving this re-watch podcast by the way. Keep it up guys.

[@Minalan_]

Very nostalgic episode for me, so glad this Podcast is continuing! Highlight of my wednesday afternoons.

[@flovi7522]

The early episodes make me remember how much I wanted Clark to save Lex from himself. For Lex to turn out to be a hero. Knowing what Lex could've become, knowing the Cassandra/hourglass prophecy, I felt like it would've been great to see a sort of alternate universe take on these characters . Truly Supermans greatest save having nothing to do with his powers. Turning Lex to the light side of the force.

[@CoffeewithStephanie]

Watching the podcast goes by too quick...you guys are doing such a great job! It brings back so many nostalgic memories as I rewatch the series.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

Thanks so much!

[@mparantha]

They do reference Jeff later on in the series when an antagonist with similar invisibility powers emerges. They also kinda explain how surviving antagonists never out Clark at some point early in the series. They're all locked away in an institution and their claims are dismissed as a result

[@ashleyc5790]

Coulda had an episode about a Belle Reeve therapist who keeps hearing about “Clark Kent” from different patients.

[@melodyndayegamiye501]

@@ashleyc5790 they sorta did one with the school councillor in the high school reunion episode of season 10, it was like 5 minute plot but 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@DarkTypeWriter]

@@ashleyc5790 they did a version of that storyline in the Teen Wolf MTV series -- which borrowed/learned a lot from Smallville (and Buffy)

[@Brook11223]

I just love the whole Invisible Man vibe with Jeff as he is trying to attack Lex Luthor.

[@laurafuerte]

It feels so surreal to see Michael as a fan of Clark & Lana's love story. He gets frustrated when we get frustrated in the almost kiss scene!!! 😬 Keep it up guys loving it!!

[@heikira438]

Never stop this series 😀

[@mitchc.2660]

I love this, but I laugh at the "Ryan's Favourite Scene" but because it feels like it's there only to make sure he never misses an episode. 😂😂😂

[@tmaddstacks2398]

I loved the bloopers for the first few seasons, especially the scenes with Tom and michael. You're both extremely funny 😁 wish there was more blooper reals like that available. This totally makes up for the lack of that though

[@briley672]

My wife and I to this day joke, "It's only a mild concussion." When we forget something. Because we noticed too the magic loophole closing tactic from the writers back when it originally aired. =D

[@veganmanofsteel]

Love that Tom has five copies of one season, and two copies of another season of Smallville behind him!

[@higgs6023]

I’m a simple man. When Talkville uploads a video, I watch it.

[@Brook11223]

You can tell the setup of John Glover's Lionel Luthor serving as the catalyst for Lex Luthor's journey into villainy starts now as he plants seeds for him.

[@-M0LE]

What’s so interesting is that Lionel is kinda evil but he’s kinda scared of Alex level of evil but he has to be the alpha and be stronger as a dad so he becomes more evil and Lex is doing the same They both have good inside of them they just reject it as every time they have been nice it’s backfired

[@theresemarkham9387]

Loving this episode !! The Luther mansion is sure attracted to thieves. Clark is a stand up guy. Y’all rock!

[@vincesergi7339]

Lex not only placed the cue ball where he wanted it to be, but he also picks up the stripe ball he's about to hit, moves it more in line and closer to the hole pocket, and then shoots it. That's amazing.. lol

[@LiLgPnoy15]

Smallville definitely paved the way for future super hero shows.

[@JP-ps8fb]

My internet literally went out when Tom said “right there” and the screen froze 😂 I was dying laughing thinking it was a bit for like 5 minutes

[@doodie8806]

This is awesome yall are doing this. I love the introspective from yall point of view as fans just watching the show. These episodes get me through dialysis. Please keep up the good work and ignore the complaints. You guys are really doing a great job quit pointing out things that maybe missed and asking questions they are usually glossed over when you're just watching the TV show.

[@ThePandasDen]

Nothing like a good ole “knock on the head” to reset continuity 😂

[@simonriches77]

I have just finished rewatching Season one, and the final episode is one of the very best finales I've ever watched in anything made for television. The cliffhanger is awesome. The creators of 'Smallville' definitely made sure that it was such a great finale with a powerful ending, so that we the audience would definitely want to come back for more.

[@masterbaker7867]

Thank you guys for revisiting Smallville. I'm enjoying seeing it all again.

[@Dustindonahue01]

Always a great start to my work day getting to watch Talkville Pod.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

right on Dustin, hope you enjoy this one

[@JJ-no8fk]

Love you guys. Ironically though I couldn’t stop watching again and I’m on season 4 😆 never realized how amazing this show is when you see what’s on Netflix and Hulu lately.

[@Newlife2811]

Another Wednesday and yet another breath of fresh air. I'm a bit ahead in rewatching the series but fuck, thank you again doing this boys!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

right on bud. glad you're still diggin it

[@andiequinzel6310]

I absolutely love the set on 12:38… would love something like that in my thriller.

[@dream052427]

I just recently started watching talk-ville I absolutely love the show and I absolutely love Michael Rosenbaum

[@christinabailey9764]

I adore John Glover. It is always a treat when he makes an appearance. I love the build up of attraction between Clark and Lana. I enjoyed how we see the love Lex had for his mother. Generally, I enjoyed the episode. I give it 🌹. Thank you for the podcast, guys!

[@-M0LE]

Yh I was always excited when he appeared

[@chriscastrofilmfashion]

I really loved this episode and love the scene where Clark is looking at Lana at the end of the episode and the song caught in the sun by course of nature comes on :) very good episode

[@im2sxc4yall]

Thank you Michael Rosenbaum and Tom Welling for doing this podcast and this youtube channel Talkville. I love Smallville alot and remember watching back in the day 2001, 2002, etc... I have the first four seasons of Smallville on DVD. Smallville was and is awesome! I still watch Smallville to this day thru my dvds and online streaming. Thank you.

[@AndrewRMontoya]

burning through the show. I'm in season five now. I completely forgot how brutal this show can get.

[@cbeardmusic4295]

tried to just watch one episode a week but there's just no way.. like trying to eat just one chip!

[@djmod926]

Just like my dad and I getting ready to watch an episode each week when I was younger, my dad and I are now excited waiting for each new episode of the podcast! Love you both doing this, getting insight of the episodes and rewatching the series together! ❤️

[@jordanstokes2394]

From the UK - this is such an amazing thing that you guys have started. I know we all hope that this continues to season 10! Keep up the good work, love the show.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

We will! ❤️

[@-M0LE]

Uk in the house

[@ozzoldoshadda2993]

Woohoo! Another good Wednesday morning 🤗

[@TalkVillePodcast]

welcome back buddy

[@edwincarpenter2669]

My electricity was out this morning and I was so upset! I wanted to watch the latest podcast of Talkville on my big screen TV! But it finally came back on. You guys are always enlightening and funny regarding the Smallville episodes! I definitely look forward to every Wednesday morning. I thought the actress who played the stalker girl was really good. I hope you can go through the entire series. And oh, Michael, I hope your air conditioning came back on! Have a great day.

[@hazmatt72]

*Excellent* question from Leanne!

[@sergiokent4748]

Smallville isn't just a Tv show, is a lifestyle!! I use to listen the same soundtrack bands/singers until nowadays. ... I took Jonathan Kent advices and etc... Thanks Michael/Tom For the best show of my life ❤️🇧🇷

[@heikira438]

I would love a "your Canadian is showing" counter lol.

[@michelleking8302]

Yesss it's the invisible man episode 😍 that was a fun one to watch. That creepy ass Lex shrine 😂. Can't wait to hear the behind the scenes! ✌️💙

[@leannepritchett6323]

You will love it. The banter between the guys is so much fun 😊

[@TalkVillePodcast]

❤️❤️❤️

[@stephaniewilliams4885]

I have every season and it's my favorite TV series ever! Thank you for making this podcast and going over all the episodes and talking through them. You both played the best Clark and Lex :)

[@brynlinthornley5936]

I got here quick! Never miss one of your guys Talkvilles❤️ makes Wednesdays a little better.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

You're the best!

[@blazing6string]

Smallville is amazing, Talkville is amazing. I wish I could sit on your couch for hours and geek out about a million things about this show haha

[@Killua_hxd]

smallville was the best drama of all time and I also love this channel TALKVİLLEPODCAST❤❤

[@andiequinzel6310]

26:46 Ere body just layin in glass 😂 Also 28:18 One of Chloe’s prettiest outfit ~best Tara Strong Bubbles impersonation~ and 40:33 reminds me of that time my brother chucked a cast iron skillet at my head and barely missed…

[@HulaBeulah]

Tom stirring the pot again with the Redux 😉😁😁😁 always makes me laugh each week. I give it 🌹for the jump scare with the phone. I enjoyed that.

[@michaelnelson64]

Shitting in a steam place! Ha ha I loved Michael’s face when Tom said that!

[@karenjan2958]

Thank you very much. With your help, I become a little happier.

[@mattpotter6758]

From the UK just wanted to let you know that this is the best PODCAST!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

welcome Matt! glad you're enjoying it

[@HeyTash]

“…cuz thats what you do at school” 😭

[@AJ-xc4qe]

28:50 he's like Ashanti, he's not always there when you call, but he's always on time. That song was huge when this show came out!