Are Pickup Trucks REALLY Piling Up On Dealer Lots? We Investigate!!

[@bluetick67]

I’m guessing he’s driving a Toyota Solara

[@TFLtalk]

Got it!

[@davidlusk4350]

That solara needs to be in a video and is amazingly more reliable than our new trucks. Numbers don't lie, lol

[@jeffk464]

There was also a Lexus Toyota Solara. You know nice seats plus another $20,000

[@billybobbob3003]

@@TFLtalk lol headlights have adjustments plus you can get fanless led bulbs.

[@lonerider5315]

Was driving, stopped to make my guess. Here it is lol, or it's a celica?

[@MidSouthUTV]

For the Editors......ADD CHAPTORS to these long videos! 00:00 Intro Monologue 02:27 Tesla Cyber Truck 10:00 Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster 17:37 Mitsubishi Triton 21:55 Patreon Questions 23:43 Andre's Chevy Colorado Update 28:41 To LED swap a halogen bulb or NOT 31:05 Heavy Duty Trucks: Gas or Diesel? 39:43 Bad economy hurting Dealerships? 54:50 Rivian R1T 59:10 Outro Conclusion

[@diesel6916]

So they talk about the thumb nail topic @40min for less then 15min on a 60min video SMH

[@USA__WILL]

They've already mentioned that tfl podcast is audio not necessarily a video production. They don't have resources to help fine tune the KZbin videos. Unless your willing to do it for free on all their videos.

[@diesel6916]

@@USA__WILL million dollar corp lol

[@jw8578]

Tfl is losing it. Another channel out of NJ has this topic already covered.

[@gaberohrbach7542]

@@jw8578 Every other truck channel has videos about this topic. Your point?

[@sidneyrobinson9186]

Hopefully Dealers that Gouged with Premiums are being remembered

[@shiftymcgee9359]

I did. Brought recently from Walnut Creek Ford instead of Sacramento area Ford dealers. They all mark up with Future Ford being the absolute worst. Broncos new and used are still marked up 5-10k.

[@that.schamp]

I figure when they are about to go bankrupt, I will go ask them for a $25,000 market adjustment.

[@Teamvenomracing]

Absolutely!

[@davidyackell]

Our local Ford has an ungodly amount of vehicles on their lot. The dealerships took advantage of willing customers, but the unwilling ones aren't even getting near a dealership, if their smart. Shady tactics and markups are going to burn them. But the dealerships and the greedy corporations let it happen and never learn from their mistakes again and again.

[@jeffk464]

I still have to wait for the 2024 models to back up.

[@JesseLJohnson]

The dealers here are all loaded with trucks. Some of them seem to keep stuff moving some I have seen the same trucks for months. Those dealers though have ridiculous market adjustments. We have 3 GMC dealers locally. I bought a Denali Ultimate recently. Only one I could find within 100 miles. Shortly after one of the other dealers got one in. They added $12k to the sticker. I actually got about $3k off sticker on mine and that is including taxes and all out the door I saved $3k even with taxes and all. That truck with the $12k over sticker they have had since Easter its still sitting on their lot. My truck I got the same time and they said it had only been there 2 days before I bought it and that it was the first one they had even had on the lot since every other one had been sold before they ever got it. The one bigger Ford dealer is just ridiculous. They have a couple F450s but not new ones they are a couple years old with 20k or more miles and they want as much for them as a brand new 23 cost. They have a Maverick for $49500. I didn't even know they made a Maverick that was that expensive. If I am spending $50k think I am gonna buy a real truck lol.

[@jameswbarry9576]

You got that right where I live too in Illinois where I live there is 4 Ford dealers as far as you can see trucks like crazy

[@robertrousseaux1059]

Here in Canada mortgage rates since 2015 have went from 2.74 percent to almost 7. What does that mean. A mortgage renewal means on a $400000 home a monthly payment of $1800 in 2015 will be $2700 in 2023 . Where is that $900 dollars going to come from ? You won’t be buying a new vehicle as often, and it won’t be a $100000 truck .

[@Nikephorus]

Yep. My mortgage is coming up for renewal next July and I'm super excited about that /sarcasm. I'm driving a 2005 Colorado and doubt I will be buying a new vehicle anytime soon.

[@jeffk464]

The only place you want to live in Canada is Vancouver and its crazy expensive add 7% interest rates and you have to be Bill Gates, who almost lives in Vancouver by the way.

[@dehumm9619]

​@Nikephorus you know you can renew early and blend the rates or pay a small penalty and renegotiate ahead of renewal right ? I did that a year ago when rates were low and the talk of raises were still just rumors.

[@jeffk464]

@@Nikephorus I had a 2005 Tacoma PreRunner with no stability control. I miss it but total death trap in snow country. I might be getting the new one with all the goodies. 2015 Sold 2005 Taco for a GTI, 2024 buy a Tacoma to compliment my GTI.

[@SunnynPhilly]

Does Canada 🇨🇦 not have 30 year fixed rate mortgages, eh?

[@u.s.fiscalforecast4149]

Good points about truck prices. I traded my 2019 RAM 1500 and got a car instead. I was NOT going to plunk down $60-70K for a new one, which is not even a top line model anyway. Yes, I lose the utility of a truck, but with a lot less in car payments I can rent a truck when I really need one.

[@demuntresmith6666]

Smart man

[@upperechelon3456]

I kind of feel you on that one. I still have my 2016 toyota tundra at 117k and it runs like a champ. Won't be getting rid of it anytime soon. I'll buy a second suv and count my blessings. 😊

[@jameswbarry9576]

in Illinois there is a ambandit dodge factory in belvedere Illinois it would be great to build the new small ram pickup truck

[@jmackinjersey1]

As far as switches vs digital component controls, Ford and Toyota did a study a few years ago. Both came out with the same results, that people prefer the switch to searching through pages of tech to turn the radio down or lower the fan speed. By that time, Ford had already switched to a major tech heavy center console interface. Toyota had not yet changed over and they continued the easier, manual switches. Ford had already signed contracts with manufacturers, but slowly brought back the manual switches. I prefer a direct connection between my HVAC controls as well as my radio.

[@Johnnyscarcarereviews]

I am so very glad that a big channel like yours is doing the proper research and getting the real deal to people so they can actually get a deal or avoid a bad one.

[@erickisel8668]

@Johnny’s car care & reviews: TFL took a page out of your playbook! Keep up the good work Johnny!

[@chrisb5986]

Good. Thanks for finally being in the camp of your viewers and not the manufacturers.

[@dlg5485]

You have to consider that every truck manufacturer has jacked up their prices by $1000s these last few years, so the discounts Andre is pointing out aren't as generous as they may seem. If they jacked up the MSRP by $4000 and then offer a $5000 discount, that's nothing to rave about.

[@andrewshenton6541]

Remember dealers made record profits during a horrible time for everyone,this is ripping poeple off and especially hurting the average joe who now can’t afford most trucks out there.we all expect dealers to make money,and i had no problem with dealers increasing price to maintain profitability,but they didn’t ,they made record profits.dealers don’t deserve our business

[@trobbins88]

When it comes to truck inventory, in my area, it varies by dealership. When I bought my '23 Elevation Sierra this week (without market adjustments), I had over 40 trucks on the lot to choose from. They had every engine available from the TurboMax to the 6.2L as well as every trim level from the Pro to the AT4X AEV and Denali Ultimate. That dealership normally has over 100 trucks in stock. Going down the road, the local Dodge dealership has zero trucks in stock, just a couple of commercial truck bodies. Further down the road, the Toyota dealer has a couple of Tundra's, but that is it. The Ford dealer has about a dozen ICE F-150's. My GMC dealer had 4 Canyon Elevation 2wd models and the Chevy dealer down the road had a couple of base Trail Boss Colorado's. The Ford dealer didn't have any Rangers or Maverick's. The Toyota dealer didn't have any Taco's. I'm glad you touched on LED light swaps. STOP PUTTING LED HEADLIGHT BULBS IN YOUR VEHICLES THAT DIDN'T COME WITH LED'S!! Some people believe that one trip to AutoZone makes them a headlight expert. Because the LED's have a different reflecting light pattern than incandescent lights, the housings that were designed for incandescent lights make the LED's look like you are driving with your high beams on. I have never been flashed because of my factory LED's because they are aimed correctly and they have the proper housings. If you put the proper type of headlights into your housings, your lighting pattern will be just as good as LED's. If you are insistent on swapping to LED's, swap out the housings as well so you don't blind everyone around you. Another problem is ordering aftermarket LED headlight or taillight kits and thinking they are just plug-and-play, only to have them hyperflash or the LED's are so dim that you can't tell if you are hitting the brakes or not. There area couple of Tahoe's near me that did an Escalade taillight swap. They were done so poorly that you can barely tell if the brakes are on or not because the brake lights are dimmer than the third brake light.

[@jeffk464]

Yes, I think full size GM's are backing up. I don't know if the dealer mindsets have changed yet but you can try low balling them.

[@leecowell8165]

that's a very good point regarding LED headlight replacement! I blind people with my LED and am constantly flicking my lights at them that I'm really on low beam after replacing my halogens with LED. I wound up re-aiming my headlights to ease the issue. You should NOT install LED lamps in non-reflective headlights.

[@hahaadventures4838]

First of all, I will NEVER own an electric car or truck! NEVER!! Just bought a 23 1/2 ton 4x4 pickup for 20% off of MSRP which was $65k. Hold out for the price you want and you’ll find it!!! Be patient and don’t settle for the rip off prices!

[@markspence3750]

I am watching this on my laptop outside. It hit 111F heat index today in Nokomis, FL today. You are in a different world.

[@JR-N-TX]

After 25 years of driving F series trucks 150 to 350, all high end models, I got tired of the things falling apart when they pass 100k miles. Or, as the last F-150 KR did at 66K miles, broke the sun roof while it was getting inspected for a trade in. Why trade below my normal baseline? It was having electrical problems. I traded on a high end Tundra. Not the best fuel economy, but I feel like I stepped back to a time when a truck was a truck. It can be worked on, or maybe I should say modified, as it really doesn't need much maintenance. At 65k miles now and still happy. It still has all the nice things, and so far, no rattles. Everything is still working.

[@upperechelon3456]

You made the right choice in s tundra.

[@OdysseyOffroad]

I would agree with this because I've been wanting a brand new Toyota Tundra since they came out. I just bought one last week and I was actually able to go to the dealer and select the one I want out of multiple available on the lot.

[@donevy9784]

working graveyard now I got something to listen to for the rest of the night let’s go

[@harunduman8529]

Corporate greed is on full force, over 30% increase on average cannot be compensated by a 5% discount. A correction should follow. Thanks for the video guys.

[@highbrass3749]

So these companies weren’t greedy a few years ago?

[@TerrenceTerryLynch]

Will just drive the trucks we have until somebody smartens up, into the three CEOs you forgot the 6P’s prior planning prevents piss, poor performance

[@sidneyrobinson9186]

Here in Canada the fleet stuff is always pre-ordered. All the stock stuff does not move. The LIghtning will be able to Tesla charger next year atleast. The Problem here with "domestic" is the truck is a $70k however they price it 80k and say $10k discount if they do a rebate. Something I truly appreciate about Imports

[@mminniear984]

What do you get from a new truck vs old? A warranty that you won’t use. That’s the only benefit. My 13’ ram with 230k has never left on the side of the road in the 150k I’ve put on it since purchased used in 2018.

[@TheFarmersLife]

For my daily driver farm truck my next truck is very likely going to be gas. We have a 25' gooseneck, but some logistics have changed over the last few years. I think the only time I've hooked it up in the last two years is to move it from one part of a barn to another. I think I'm going to save that $10k on a new truck and get more payload which will be of more use to me. Like the guys said I make a ton of short trips around the farm and to town. Somewhere along the line my Cummins' DPF fell off and I haven't had a check engine light since. I've actually thought about get a decent old dually with a flatbed that can live at the farm, and start daily driving a half ton.

[@bostondan77]

I love the Lightning- the speed, the frunk, filling up at home, but it's like Roman has said in the past- it's all about choice. If I had to tow long distances or if I road tripped long distances regularly then I would chose something else. For my needs (mostly a city truck); hauling the kids bikes around, driving to work, going to storage, going the the dump, Lowe's, etc. it's been by far the best truck I've owned.

[@jeffk464]

That was always the job of the Tacoma, now you are seeing some decent mid sized trucks that aren't Tacoma's. I drove a Lighting and really liked the acceleration and all the driver assist features. But, and its a Woopie Goldberg sized but, the thing was too damn heavy, it felt kind of like driving the detached truck of a tractor trailer. The thing is huge and weighs over 8,000 lbs. Tacoma's don't feel that way, they actually feel a little sprots, acceptable as a daily driver.

[@bostondan77]

@@jeffk464 Lightning Pro base weight is 6,000 lbs if you add extendend range battery it’s 6,400lbs. A fully loaded platinum with large wheels and extended range battery is 6,800. I’ve owned a Ram Limited with air suspension and the Lightning drives better- the independent suspension and balanced weight fits it well IMO.

[@ronaldking1054]

@@jeffk464 Its GWVR is 8250. That means that 8250 lbs. is all that you can put into the truck. It has a payload rating over 1,000 lbs.

[@BC08]

@@jeffk464 Subjective opinion. In my subjective opinion Tacomas usually feel like flimsily-built death traps. They don’t feel like they are going to break down but they feel like you’ll lose a high percentage of “wreck encounters” out on the road.

[@jeffk464]

@@BC08 There's a shoe for every foot

[@Na0uta]

I drive by dealerships and visit them often for work related stuff. I dont see them sitting around much more then before. The supply is pretty normal overall. Maybe a few more 2 or 3 year old ones then before. But that happenes every refresh.

[@WheresHerb]

I actually got a very sweet deal during covid. I got more (18-20%) than kbb for my 2014 silverado trade in AND bought a new 2021 Colorado under msrp. Paid no destination charge, they threw in a bed liner and 4 mud flaps and 2 years of SiriusXM.

[@reserva120]

So what - how stupid- that doesn’t even sound real - or it’s was early in the the Communist Chinese virus - and they made a get it out of here deal- either way, a stupid point - not for 99.9 of people.

[@kirkdunn1379]

This was the thing most YT was missing with price increase bashing on new trucks.....they were paying 30% plus more for your trade..... I bought and sold 7 new trucks since 2019. All of em I sold fir either what I paid or made a profit and was able to purchase all of the new ones for below MSRP except 1 which was right @ sticker....purchased 4 half tons and 3 HD 2500s..... It was good time to buy and sell if you did your homework and shopped around

[@wayneowens4761]

got my 2023 Silverado 4x4 custom 2.7, before taxes 42,500. MSRP was 52. They are dealing in San Diego

[@sad754yt]

I use to trade out every few years. Im really trying now to hold onto all my vehicles and rvs and just paying them down quickly. No new loans for me at 7% and above.

[@Captain-Awesome]

We are looking at buying an RV, roughly 14k dry. I was looking st a F350 SRW. The Brinkley Z3100 is likely what we will end up with. If you have a minute would you tell me about your tow rig and RV?

[@SHUB281]

Same

[@sad754yt]

@Captain-Awesome Well my tow/haul rig is a 2022 gas 3/4 ton Silverado. I am a full timer in a 2k lb truck camper so payload is my first concern. I also have a 20 ft 2022 Geo Pro but that just sits on my land for my son. It only weighs about 4k lbs. I can easily tow it and haul my truck camper at the same time but never need to. Brinkley is a nice choice for the 5th wheel. I think you should be fine with the truck you are looking at. Are you purposely staying away from the dually?

[@randallwood8537]

Sure, there are discounts; but that only removes the dealer add-on markups. The MSRPs are still WAY too high for the average truck buyer. I've been sitting for two years on this, I have no mortgage, and I make a decent living with 4 years to retirement. The trucks I see are not what I want or need. I do not want to buy a truck with a living room inside. I have owned a two Chevy Silverados and a Toyota Tacoma in the last 10 year. All had a dang "Infotainment" system I never even used. My truck does not need to be a wireless hot spot. That is only there so the NSA knows where I am. The interior needs a speedometer, a tachometer, an oil pressure gauge and a volt meter. A gauge to monitor the transmission temperatures would be nice, also. The only other luxuries I might need (other than 4WD) is air conditioning, maybe. I need the money in the engine, suspension and transmission. What do all these gizmos add to the price, and are they value added? I do not believe so. If you pay over $50,000 you are being shucked. My 2019 Tacoma TRD Off Road stickered at $38,521 with a Reese type trailer hitch. And it towed a trailer with 2500 lbs. on it regularly without issue. And it had gizmos I never used. Until manufacturers understand what truck guys want (not city boys with their need for toys) they will not get our segment to swallow a $1200 dollar a month truck payment. And I can afford that (unlike most working men). And I do not want it.

[@patricksimoneau7647]

Idk where I’m at in Canada, people are posting, and selling 2017 f350 lariats with 300,000kms (186500 miles) for $55k Or a 2023 from the dealership with no mileage for $105-115k The msrp for a lariat in 2017 was $63k so keep a truck for 6 years, bag tf out of it through the oilfield (alberta) then sell it with a bunch of miles for just under what you bought it for? Absolute wild. I’d rather pay the $115k for a new one cause 1. Just my truck, brings me around $70k ish a year. That’s above and beyond my regular wage. 2. Nice fresh warranty for any bs that magically pops up. And 3. Driving at least 2500 miles a month, it’s nice to be in something you like.

[@atmartens]

I’m not surprised about the commercial vehicles. The truck and car companies didn’t want to make them because they weren’t making as much as compared to the higher trim levels. Take the Colorado, I’m sure GM makes way more more money on their AT4 then a base white truck. Secondly, interest rates have gone up. Not just on cars but credit cards and mortgages. At some point people can’t afford 70,000K+ trucks. Lastly, no one should ever be paying MSRP for a GM, Ford or Ram/Jeep. They lose so much value, even on top of buying brand new and driving it off the lot. The reliability hasn’t been great. I could understand during Covid when there were shortages and someone was in an accident…. but now it’s just dumb to pay MSRP.

[@sharonthehuman5954]

@TFLtalk Any info on the rumored Toyota Stout? Lots of rampant rumors on you tube but the only legitimate info seems to be that Toyota has registered the Stout name.

[@ScottDePanfilis]

Not only has our local Ford dealer flowing with 2023 truck models, but their prices are beginning to drop. Some as low as 20% drops, but I think we can do better! Trucks costing over $80,000 are totally F'd

[@steinwaymodelb]

I'm rather disappointed that there are still no options for PHEV heavy duty trucks. The extra torque and regen capability could very well outperform diesel powerplants, while offering far lower operating costs, fewer failure points, and extra utility like onboard power. The extra 10k for a diesel option could pay for a very robust PHEV option.

[@skoolynugenator1802]

So you can tow something for 100 miles and then hafta charge again? Why?

[@gearshiv]

​@@skoolynugenator1802phev is a hybrid so electric with a gas generator like most modern tanks, very gas efficient and leaving your house you can get 40-60 miles on just straight electric if you plug it in

[@skoolynugenator1802]

@@gearshiv oh yeah just say hybrid. I’m totally down for hybrid.

[@gearshiv]

@@skoolynugenator1802 there are multiple types of hybrid phev is just one of many

[@shaungarrett3938]

Absolutely! This extreme switch to all electric is a bridge too far for those who tow.

[@wkw4095]

Those youtube channels that go to dealer lots are far more interesting than looking at a computer screen. There are a lot of trucks sitting in lots. The number of 2023 Wrangler 4xe's sitting in lots is comical....in a sad way. but that's another story.

[@rcmortyhobbies2567]

I had a 21 ram 2500 and yes it’s big and you can’t park it anywhere unless you don’t care about others opening doors into yours. Since I don’t tow and life changes I’m in a performance suv and love it.

[@jblaze114]

not just pickups, the auxiliary lots that were full during the chip shortage are filling up again here in tampa

[@garykarczewski6678]

Vehicle pricing is totally out of control. The best action a consumer can do is NOT PURCHASE any used or New Vehicles. Fix what you have which is the most practical action one can do. Eventually the OEM and Dealerships will drop prices because they have to.

[@RodneyDunlap-m6n]

Yes at my local Ford dealership here in Bessemer Alabama Town & Country Ford has I lot full of Mostly F-150s ove 400 trucks

[@jeffr6280]

Regarding the F-150 Hybrid, comparing Toyota's Hybrid experience and reputation with that of Ford's is truly apples to oranges. I know Andre loved his, but he only had it for a year. Having to deal with combined "down the road" expenses of the ecoboost along with Hybrid tech from a brand that has limited experience in that field requires deep pockets and lots of faith, and the evidence is in the sales figures.

[@garys2157]

Ford has been selling hybrids for more than ten years, and guess where they got their hybrid technology from, here's a hint, the company starts with a "T".

[@superior54]

I recommend the Monster pedal by Banks. 100% for trucks. I have 22 Taco Pro manual

[@roguedogx]

for the car guess, the only things that come to mind are the Toyota Solara and the Mitsubishi eclipse (the really old one) although that might be a 5 speed auto.

[@jaysson1151]

If you’re pulling a 5er or gooseneck long distance, quite often, get the diesel. Even though the gasser may be capable, you’ll lose the convenience of being able to pull into the truck station to fill up and will be forced to share the gasoline pumps with the all of them crossovers and minivans with your long-ass trailer sticking out. Plus, carrying extra fuel is much more difficult with gasoline since the DOT restricts many options for auxiliary fuel tanks. But otherwise, absolutely don’t buy a diesel unless you really need one.

[@propertypreparedness6846]

I stopped selling trucks in 2019... we always had 220+ vehicles on the lot. That was mandated. If you added the overflow and cars in for maintenance or repair was more like 270. During normal times, managers want the LOTS FULL! This is not a result of none selling.

[@propertypreparedness6846]

Have a buddy in the Midwest still selling. He's selling 19+ vehicles a month..still.

[@TheFarmersLife]

Our local GM dealer had a almost totally empty lot for nearly a year. They had 2 or 3 used cars at one point. They said by October they had actually exceeded sales of the entire previous year. Just every new vehicle ordered got prepped and went straight to it's new home.

[@Dusdaddy]

Yeah, I get tired of people saying you must have diesel to tow. Gassers are fine 90% of the time because most people don't tow that much. You either need the extra capacity or your don't, period.

[@jaysson1151]

Couldn’t agree more. If you’re pulling a 5er or gooseneck long distance, quite often, get the diesel. Even though the gasser may be capable, you’ll lose the convenience of being able to pull into the truck station to fill up and will be forced to share the gasoline pumps with the all of them crossovers and minivans with your long-ass trailer sticking out. Plus, carrying extra fuel is much more difficult with gasoline since the DOT restricts many options for auxiliary fuel tanks. But otherwise, absolutely don’t buy a diesel unless you really need one.

[@celticsfaninthedesert4778]

My local Toyota dealer has had a Tacoma TRD Pro for weeks sitting on the lot and are offering 2.9% on it. Local Jeep has a completely full lot with everything just sitting with a discount off msrp

[@bradcement3068]

Let me help you out. Yes it's true trucks are piling up mainly because they are not affordable. With interest rates that are sky high. Prices that are above 80k for a nicely equipped truck and with dealers marking up the vehicles its a combo for disaster. Inventory is well above 160 days which is absolutely insane.

[@MidSouthUTV]

Thank you for finally answering Gas vs Diesel (which I know you have in the past) but just orders a new 2024 GMC 2500HD SLT Gasser in June and it should be here in September according to the dealer. It should be built the first week of August. I don't tow long distance. The longest I may tow is around 3 to 4 hours (one way) and this rare. And the worst towing terrain I would be going over is the Ozark Mountains. I just looked at it this way, if a mid-size truck that I like is pushing mid $60K and the half-ton trucks are the same price as a HD truck. Why not get the extra towing of a HD Truck. I would rather have the towing capacity more than I need and be stable on the road with a trailer than get a truck that would be closer to the max towing of what I need. Is this going over board with a truck. Probably, but with all the trucks no matter what size you get are so close in cost, I rather go over what I truly need than pay overprice. And I I'm getting the gooseneck prep package, just in case I need it in the future or for resale value (but I don't plan to sell it). I currently have a 2002 Ford F-150 2WD 5.4L and I've owned it since 2004 (when I started my first year of college). I have driven a RAM HD 6.4L Hemi with a gooseneck across the Ozarks (the long way) and it worked exactly how I wanted it. So I hope this new GMC 10-speed HD does the same. I have always wanted a Ford Super Duty or RAM HD, but I've been pricing and watching yours and multiple videos on the new GMC/Chevy HD trucks for MONTHS, and studying the HD Gas Trucks for YEARS. I hope I made the right choice, but it will be day & night to what I am use to with my 2002 F-150.

[@leecowell8165]

the problem with gassers is that they ain't built very tough. You need to keep loading down and especially in mountainous terrain. Diesels in contrast are designed from the ground up for big loading. I would NOT put a goosneck hitch in a gasser I can tell you that! Just the braking in hill country would be enough to dissuade me from doing something like that. Diesels also get 40% better mileage than a gasser and that disparity grows substantially if you're yanking stuff around. BTW I drive a 2000, F350 7.3 stick with the 4.1 ratio that I could easily pull 15k up to pikes peak.

[@johnmeeboer8971]

I listened to the talk while cooking on the bbq. A very interesting and informative video,

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

Yes .... Trucks are piling up at dealer lots. I drive by two dealerships every single day without fail. They keep changing out the inventory trying to see if they can sell something else. So most recently they have swapped out Nissan frontier trucks for Nissan altimas at the dealership close to where I live. I'm also about a block from a Jeep dealership and they are piling up there also. Tons of used Jeep Wranglers etc are piling up running out of room. What's kind of strange is that the same time they appear to be renovating the dealerships I guess because sales are slow and they might as well do it now with the coronavirus money... Not sure what That is all about but they do appear to also be renovating in spite of the vehicle pile up which is strange maybe for a tax write off... who knows? For what it's worth I live in the wealthiest area in my state. So that's not the issue... So if they're not selling where I live they're not selling anywhere.

[@gc1172]

Where are trucks piling up and what brand? Nothing on the lots in my town nor nearby within 100 miles. Local Chevy dealer had ten come in the other day so I checked and NO, all sold and finally got delivery. They had some dozen on order, sold.

[@AhBeeDoi]

Regarding the "doorless" Cybertruck, it shows both on doors on the driver's side (image is mirror flipped). The front passenger side door could be open, it's not clear that the door is missing. What is clear is that a vehicle missing one or more doors would not be considered finished, nor would it make sense that it would progess down the assembly line with only one side being finished.

[@dhtango]

They are sure piling up here in my town in southern Missouri. Never seen so many pickups on that lot in the whole time I have lived here.

[@OrganicWheat]

theres an acura dealership nearby and they really have the suvs parked outside their fence! and other lots are full of inventory and some are even hiding it in their storage lots

[@dc9mm2]

You mention other videos showing lots of trucks. In the ones I watched they say FLEET sales are still high keeping sales numbers high. . They say the retail style f150 or chevy or dodge is piling up. It sure looks that way at dealers near me.

[@jeffk464]

I went to my local chevy and they had one colorado piled up on their lot, which is a good start. Tons of Silverado's if someone wanted one.

[@gmgg424]

I went to a Ram dealer this past Sunday. They had 70 Ram 1500 on the lot.

[@southbay1279]

My experience with Ford dealers in Northern California has been comical. The dealers refuse to take orders for vehicles, are lying to customers about availability, and are driving sales for heavily marked up base model vehicles. A base model Ford Explorer is marketed at $56,995 in San Jose. 😂

[@leecowell8165]

never heard of going atta state, huh?

[@stevenbrooks1243]

Absolutely all that extra garbage on new vehicles is so un needed

[@thomasbenefield3527]

I am preparedness minded. I keep about 35g of gas. Ethanol free with Stabil. I cycle it through my lawn stuff. Try to reuse every year. Definitely is good for 2 years. I don’t know of anyone who stores bulk fuel. But they are aware. Trust me!

[@ryansheard8092]

I live just N of Houston, TX. My local Ford dealership is back to pre COVID F150 inventory of about 500 F150s and they turn them over about every 30 days.

[@SunnynPhilly]

That’s Texas, like Roman said everyone and their sister drives a pickup 🛻 in Texas. In places like the North East and Chicago pickups are mostly driven by people in trades like carpenters and plumbers.

[@gmjent5671]

Trucks and decked out trail ready jeeps and broncos in a state that has no public lands or trails it s Hilarious.

[@user-ym9wb2mk5e]

Have two newer model RR Sport w/ the ZF trans and TD6 diesel engine. 100k miles on both with no issues. I know they don't hold their value like other manufacturers, or get bashed, but I don't plan on getting rid of them. Looks like an inline 6 diesel is in the Ineos as an option, so they ditched the V6 TD6 option that was a joint venture Ford/Pugeot design. I think LR really messed up by not working with Ineos or selling them the tooling.

[@chriscozart0620]

Always great content. I'm working on trading in my 2022 Black Diamon Bronco for a new truck and finding that the local dealers are offering $5k - $8k less than what the Kelly Blue Book trade in values are estimated as. The dealers do confirm the market is shifting a bit, but that shift toward lower prices aren't reflected in the pricing of their new Broncos at 5%-10% over MSR and their used Broncos still priced thousands above Kelly Blue book value. Is this an example of dealers trying to have their cake and eat it to?

[@POHLHAMMER]

yuuup.. They want you to give them your old truck , then rape you for their new one. Just went through this. Kept my old truck.

[@DKosu48]

I like hybrid trucks. Ford doesn't offer thiers in XL or XLT only in the upper trim levels. Will you do a review of a hybrid f150 vs a non hybrid f150 pulling the same trailer?

[@TheNotimprezed]

Look for $20 to $30k incentives on expensive trucks soon. My 2018 f150 msrp was $60k and was $48k with incentives and haggle. It would be $75k for a 2023 of equal spec. There are some uogrades vs 2018 but not $27k better. $55k or I'll drive the 2018 until the wheels fall off. It doesnt matter if the manufacturers intentionally keep supply short, I'll never be in the market for a $70k truck until it has a $20k rebate and 0%apr.

[@smileymac8017]

I'm keeping "old smokey" my 2005 Ram diesel 2500 with 114k miles. It's simple just like me. 😂

[@jayhiggins5239]

There are plenty Bronco Sports available with 1.5L engines. If Ford has these engines available and not the hybrid, why not put them in FWD Mavericks?

[@gearshiv]

They are next year the 1.5 is the standard and the hybrid is a $1500 option

[@GeorgeJFW]

I picked up a 2018 tundra about 3 months ago I had been looking for a pick up for months and finally found a decent deal. Love the truck by the way 👌

[@upperechelon3456]

Yep. I purchased a tundra back in 2017 brand new. It's one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. And I've owned a few in my day.😅

[@gregmoessner3104]

2/3 in and finally they get to the point!

[@shiftymcgee9359]

It’s a Roman video.

[@strongplanted]

I saw Andrey driving in the Colorado a few weeks ago on 36 in Louisville. Very distinctive truck!

[@Brandon-ll3ff]

168 isn’t bad for the oil change considering my old passat was always !$95-$100 and didn’t use nearly as much oil.

[@michaelgarnett8166]

EV trucks being on the lot for twice as long as ICE trucks could signal consumers aren’t happy with the product, especially for pricing. Aside from the fact I would never pay $100k for a luxury EV truck I can likely only use to tow 150 miles one way, I could essentially buy 2-3 ICE trucks (full or mid-sized) for the price of 1 EV truck. It’d be more manageable if rates were back down to 2-3%, but it’s next to impossible with rates at 6-7%. I understand the need to stay competitive with your competitors, but you can’t completely disregard your customers either.

[@JesseLJohnson]

The dealer I got my Denali Ultimate from had one of those Hummers in the show room. $115k which is the cheapest I ever seen one listed for. It was already sold but the buyer couldn't take it. They said the battery was leaking so they were waiting on GM to ship a new battery. Who knows how long that will take and I swear they said it was $60k to replace which makes sense since I think a battery for a Tesla is like $25-27k to replace.

[@ElijahDecker]

In my experience, even ethenol gasoline and biodiesel blends store longer than you'd expect in a sealed container. Ethanol free gas and biodiesel free diesel will still be fuel for years if they're stored properly. I've run 20 year old diesel that was in the mostly full tank of an '85 Ford F350 that sat in a field for that long. It burned fine.

[@MustafarRecRoom]

I stopped by one of the local Ford dealers over the weekend and they had at least twenty F150 Lightnings on the lot…all with $85 - $100K (CAD) + sticker prices. It’s laughable…. The cheapest F150 on the lot was a $64K XL work truck spec….no wonder they’re sitting on the lot. Fleet sales will buoy overall sales for only so long….

[@nathankoroush7918]

All the idiots buying at these outrageous prices are the problem.

[@jayhiggins5239]

Mitsubishi once sold as a Dodge Ram50. Then Fontier sold as a Suzuki & Dakota sold as a Mitsubishi. Frontier will now sell as a Mitsubishi. What will be a new midsize Ram? - Nothing because Stellantis is commited to the Grand Wagoneer.

[@B-Rob-777]

Is the Triton still based off the Frontier?

[@nealbrooker4295]

Live this channel! It would be great if you did an update on pricing every few months

[@nycmaverick]

Glad to see Roman on here.

[@gabrieldetwiler7078]

They absolutely are. There’s a ford dealer near me who are known for selling their trucks. Well they haven’t been able to sell almost anything due to their markups. Because of that, they probably have almost 200 maybe more brand new ford trucks just sitting there.

[@Johnny_Bee]

My local FORD dealer in Houston has at least 100 F150 and 250’s in a spillover lot a couple blocks away from the dealership lot, no telling what the total inventory is. During Covid it was empty but now it’s full again.

[@mjuberian]

and they are not lowering prices

[@garysarratt1]

My local Chevy dealer had tons of FLEET vehicles during Covid. It always has at least 2x more fleet than personal.

[@propertypreparedness6846]

Last comment lol.... here in the NW, new trucks are still at or over msrp. Irritating. They were 5-10k over, that has come down.

[@briangasser973]

I enjoyed the video. Few youtubers in the auto space, will pick up the phone and talk to dealership contacts to get their perspective. It is easy and lazy just to walk a lot and throw up a video without context or perspective.

[@davidlusk4350]

Sold my 2018 loaded Hd 2500 to carmax for nice profit. Bought my new 2022 4 runner last year, looking at the new Lexus GX but for these intrest rates and boosted msrp in the past few years. Might be singing i love what you do for me toyota .... for many more years to come😅😂

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

My local Toyota dealers have started selling Samsung appliances. Okay, not really, but if they do I thought of it first!

[@TodoNFamilia]

Guys A loose question, I understand that we are going through an economic crisis, but I want to know, so that I can make a good purchase, what would be the percentage for a vehicle normally in the dealer,...? I hope in 2024 to change my two legs for a 4x4

[@ArneAsada69]

Here in Chicago, it’s mostly SUVs and crossovers.

[@mourning_ghost]

Have you guys heard anything about the Stout? I won't trust anything I see online unless it comes from TFL.

[@MegaLighthouse]

You need to adjust the wiring to swap a halogen to LED. You drive a Toyota Solara. And most people are fed up with $50k trucks which become $80-$100 trucks and they are now more complicated. They want $20-25k simple nontowing trucks.

[@rapTorfx4]

While I agree people, including myself, want $25-30k trucks back, I must disagree with the "non-towing" portion. Why buy a truck and not do truck things with it?

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

The Ford dealership right down the road from me has more vehicles than they have room. They've started parking their excess inventory in the middle school parking lot across the street... Also Tesla has a history of blatantly lying to the public. They've had a department dedicated to canceling service requests that their disgruntled customers scheduled due to the stupid things not getting their advertised range - or anything close to it.

[@johnmeeboer8971]

I think some areas people have more and make more money. Those areas have no stock. Here in Canada where I live there are lots for stock on the big three but on Toyota it is only what is sold that shows on the lots.

[@JesseLJohnson]

There are tons of trucks here. I don't think it has anything to do with them not selling, I am still not seeing much for 1 ton or bigger trucks though. The dealer I bought from is constantly selling, there are some others that I don't think are doing to well but they have a $5k or better markup on all trucks. I know we have 3 GMC dealers locally where I got mine they don't charge over MSRP I actually got my Ultimate for around $3k under sticker and that included sales tax and everything out the door. The other 2 though have market adjustments and I have seen some of the same trucks on their websites for 3-5 months now. I guess they can keep them if they want to tac on all that extra over sticker. I know the one had an Ultimate like mine but it was a 6.2 and they added $12k to the price. I could have got a 24 3/4 ton Ultimate at the dealer I got mine from for cheaper then the half ton at this other dealer. I know one of the local Ford dealers does have a couple F450s but they are a couple years old and they want as much for them as a new one cost. I have seen some sales though recently and I got some money off my Denali Ultimate when I bought it a few months ago. All the dealers around here seem to have at least 30 trucks. I guess there is some GM cab and chassis trucks so there is some bigger trucks I guess now I think about it but the only heavier trucks I am seeing on lots are GMs. One thing I noticed at the GM dealers I went to the half tons, it seemed like half of them were the LZ0. There wasn't many 6.2s. The guy at the GMC lot I got my Ultimate from told me that the 6.2 was getting prioritized to the Escalade at the time. I don't know if its true that is what he said but I think they had 2 trucks with the 6.2 on the whole lot and they had I think 40 trucks. My Ultimate and all the regular Denali were LZ0. All the AT4 trucks were Duramax too that they had. I was there for a loaded truck so I didn't really look to much at some of the lower trims but I know all the higher end half tons were all LZ0 that they had every single one of them.

[@honda116969]

Sanderson Ford is a very big dealership in Glendale Arizona known for their service department... I went in there just looking around 2 months ago & they had about 8-10 tremor F-150 & few F250 plus countless regular trucks & they even have some nice used vehicles but they were still asking $15,000 markups on 🆕 🛻 💨 🤕🤦

[@stefanfalldorf6573]

As far as I know the new Mitsubishi L200/Triton is co-developed with the new Nissan Navarra (which is not presented yet). Mitsubishi belongs to the Renault-Nissan alliance.

[@roguedogx]

18:51 honestly, I think that segment is already too crowded. if they had first move advantage it would be different, but they don't

[@roguedogx]

28:19 this might not be the case. that's only of gas that's been exposed to air and has some level of additive in it. a sealed tank of pure gas is probably fine.

[@americanrambler4972]

Maybe we are going to start to see a shift in what peoples tastes going forward. We just don’t know what that is yet. Lately what I have been looking at are the new Nissan Versa manual transmission models, Jeep Wrangler 2 door sport soft tops with zero options and Ford Maverick XL AWD with the $100 tow package (trailer hitch). Even the Bronco Sport and Jeep Compass and gasp, Renegade. Buick has its new China made entry level beginning to show up that is a curious oddity.

[@bradleylayton1741]

The reason the delta between gas and diesel is coming closer together has to do with a few things. One cheaper to front, two gas is now cheaper than diesel, gas engines get better fuel economy when not towing, the emissions garbage taking life away from diesels so they no longer last longer than gas engines, and lastly is the fact with the emissions stuff now it’s horrible to commute with a diesel.

[@tgland02494]

Part of the reason people don’t like all the stuff on the screen as it’s easier to reach Intern things on without looking at them when they’re switches when you’re Thomas screen, you gotta take your eyes off the road

[@rfjohns1]

There is also the question of how good is good enough and how much are people willing to pay.

[@majic5zero]

If it's not coming to the U.S., who the Hell cares?!

[@DH-mf2lv]

Great discussion guys! Enjoyed it.