The Case Against Reality | Prof. Donald Hoffman on Conscious Agent Theory

[@ZDoggMD]

Full audio podcast version, transcript, timecodes and links: zdoggmd.com/incident-report-266/

[@kenyettachenault2513]

​@@laserhobbyist9751 HOW SO?

[@Mikel8904]

@@laserhobbyist9751 OR, and more likely ... a greater expansion of consciousness and perception.

[@matthewnicholson2699]

​@@laserhobbyist9751 that's exactly what I was thinking!

[@squirlmy]

@@laserhobbyist9751 or transcendence to a higher plane. Frankly I wouldn't miss this world very much, It's full of pain and suffering!

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

@@squirlmy It's a juxtaposition. The Earth IS full of pain and suffering however with a backdrop of undeniable beauty. The Earth is simply stunning.

[@jamesglass4842]

Back in 97 I had a near fatal aneurysm that burst in my head. At one point after they saved my life I remember being floating in the Hospital corridor. I was separated from Brain and body. I could see, hear and think. The thinking was like speaking allowed?. There was a wall between me and my body and brain. I wasn’t interested in the flesh and blood container lying on the bed connected to a life support machine. I was in front of my brother and this nurse. I remember what he said to the nurse and what she said back. The Red light was flashing above my hospital door in the corridor. My brother said What is happening? The nurse said we think your brother is trying to breath on his own?. The way I could see was like looking out of a ball of energy or the orb state. I was the orb I was inside this orb. This is how I can describe how it was to visualise things?. The only thing I wasn’t doing was the respiration process as I was separated from my flesh and blood body. And I wasn’t interested in that thing lying there in that room. As it wasn’t me. I was in the corridor floating.

[@piccadelly9360]

Science wants to extract what you have experienced in mathematical formulas. I am very skeptical whether it will succeed

[@1955annemarie]

jamesglass4843, thank you for sharing your incredible experience. I especially appreciate that you explained about being an "orb." I have seen orbs, which I knew were relatives that had passed. Orbs were floating in circles in one area of the backyard. My uncle and my sister watched these orbs in amazement, and we all knew what we were seeing. 😊

[@James-ll3jb]

​@@piccadelly9360 . Me too. It's too much the invention if just OUR mode of limited consciousness!

[@dorothysay8327]

This is what’s referrred to be the term NDE, or Near-Death Experience. There are thousands of these on YoiTube; millions have experienced it. The jig is up, for the scientific/secular materialist. It’s over…has been for a century, even though our many disciplines refuse to recognize it. The philosopher-theologians? were right all along.

[@canadiankewldude]

@@1955annemarie Didn't you notice he could not talk. Demons are the ones actually talking to people, pretending to be your lost relative or friend. They watch and hear everything, copycat the person to trick you. Judgment Day is still coming, from the Creator of all life, even the Spiritual ones. *_Mat _**_10:28_**_ And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell._* *_KJB_*

[@briansmith3791]

This is the best interview with Donald Hoffman i've seen. And it was down to ZDoggMD's understanding of Hoffman's theory. A great dialogue.

[@kevincarey1356]

Absolutely correct...

[@mikehynz]

100%

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

The Truth The Illumination of Conscience written in 2011 by author Jeffrey M. Simoneaux This was described in great detail about what and how the reality and nature of the universe truly is and that our perceived reality is profoundly different. We are truly beings of light and energy and our senses are transmitters designed to read their code and our brains are computers that use that code to create our false perceived reality.

[@vulcancake]

@@jeffsimoneaux5968 yes!

[@ipsonuser]

Absolutely, I saw another interview and the interviewer didn’t even let him finish sentences. Had to look further and this is by far my best too. The interviewer is also super eloquent and up to the task.

[@katiemarte5354]

This reminds me of my time in school, those who want to achieve real understanding of the subjects don't do as well in an exam as those students who trained to get high scores cause they are simply more focused on getting the right answers instead of having a deep understand of it.

[@jhernandez8897]

True

[@goodwill8750]

Reminds me of university ... ego versus consciousness

[@alexchin1795]

I independently came up with the same idea when I was in high school and was getting high with my friends.

[@Chiro_ASMR]

@@alexchin1795 well done.

[@name5702]

@@lefthookouchmcarm4520 the main purpose of a test is to teach you how to do well on tests

[@peteholliday1927]

I LOVE his openness ….so many scientists are so dogmatic and close minded !

[@lulumoon6942]

And worse, they purport to be objective, a real hindrance to truth. 👀

[@heinzditer7286]

​@@lulumoon6942rational science is still done by irrational humans.

[@iloveFreedom.]

​@@lulumoon6942 yeah!! In the days where people are paid to provide " answers" rather than having the intention or presence to seek truth, also 🥱 I trust it is lightening up, well, I feel I have to 😆🌻

[@kimberlysmith7311]

Yes I heard once that the thing people are willing to die for is to be right. I guess because being right seems to strengthen our ego and makes us feel more secure somehow

[@deankillen6345]

I once seen my neighbours dogs balls through a fence and a bird pecked them.

[@gzy4407]

This is the best conversation with Donald Hoffman I've seen. The questions posed and the summarizations of his responses help tremendously in making Prof Hoffman's views clear. Thank you!

[@stevencooper4422]

You could make a religion out of this!

[@putyograsseson]

Steven Cooper check indian philosophy/sanskrit

[@Iranianjunkie]

I agree. Fantastic interviewer for this person and topic.

[@BavonWW]

@@user-45674xcfr My viscera beg to differ.

[@gazmasonik2411]

@@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 No ..a "mossad"group. complicit, with dual national "US zionist", fifth column! did 9/11. Otherwise, very true. Must try harder Over simplified is to hand them, anti semitic b.s. distraction ammunition lol.

[@stephanierubosky5695]

This is the most interesting conversation that I don't understand that I've ever heard.

[@WoodysAR]

I'm with you. He really is just babbling,.. We can't know the truth anyways,.,

[@cappnzak]

I could not have stated it better myself! Wonderful,thanks Stephanie. :-)

[@rebelsoul5980]

We are living inside a constructed reality, we live in a realm.

[@pookie4660]

You only think you're hearing it. The construct in your mind forms relationships of familiar words. In this case English. Behind the sound are waves/vibrations that stimulate areas of your ears and brain. You're formulating an interface to interpret speech as English. I lost my point. I guess I don't understand it myself.

[@joseepirri3441]

"....he's not saying anything... he's just talking..."

[@patrick764]

This is the best interview of Dr. Hoffman that I’ve seen so far anywhere, in large part because of how well prepared the interviewer is.

[@thehighwayman78]

You really should have Tom Campbell on! His theory of consciousness and "virtual reality" is very close to Prof. Hoffman's. A discussion with both of them would be fantastic!

[@eleni8920]

Thanks for this. I love hiw we breaks down consciousness.

[@jimvalko6044]

The funny thing is Hindu philosophy was saying the same thing thousands of years ago with different terminology of course.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

No actually even the terminology is very similar with descriptives like consciousness obviously. Ofc there was no math involved. Just the insights and vague glimpses into parallel realities experienced by yogis meditating on mountaintops all by themselves.

[@mabz3233]

4.TESTING SPHERE= Can be created if needed to test BEINGS and LAWS IN THE UNIVERSES as UNIVERSES consist of METAPHYSICAL AND PHYSICAL LAWS TOGETHER, for example LAW OF ATTRACTION BETWEEN DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND MATTERS. 5.ETERNAL INFINETE PRIMAL ELEMENT SPHERE*MIND OVER MATTER*= WHICH CONSCIOUSNESSES CAN USE TO CREATE THEIR WORLDS WITHIN and FORM ANYTHING IMAGINABLE. 6. ETERNAL INFINETE SOUL SPHERE= WHERE ONE CAN CREATE INFINETE AMOUNT OF SOULS AND BEINGS INTO FORMS, WHERE SPIRIT ENERGY COMES FROM FOR ALL, WHERE HIGHER MIND AND SUBCONSCIOUS MIND IS CREATED= For example= ATOMS, PLANTS, ANIMALS, HUMANOIDS, DIMENSIONAL BEINGS, PLANETS, GODESSES/GODS, UNIVERSES. 7. ETERNAL INFINETE BALANCE SPHERE BETWEEN GOOD, BAD, NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL GOOD and NEUTRAL BAD for ALL SEEKING BALANCE and IF KNOWING BEING BALANCED ALL THE TIME. 8. PRIMAL ELEMENTAL SPHERE/PRIMAL SYMBOLS SPHERE= ADDINGS SYMBOLS and SPIRIT GUARD FOR EACH ELEMENTS AND HOW THEY CORRESPOND WITH EACH OTHER, FIRE, AIR, EARTH, WATER, LIGHTNING, COSMOS, LIGHT, DARK, MANA, HEALTH, STAMINA ALL WHICH ARE BALANCED BETWEEN GOOD, BAD, NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL GOOD, NEUTRAL BAD. 9. ASTRAL SPHERES-SPIRIT WORLDS, HOW MANY UNIVERSES AND WITHIN WORLDS, DIMENSIONS HAS THEIR OWN SPIRIT WORLD/ASTRAL WORLD WHICH ALL ARE CONNECTED WITH THE ARCHITYPAL UNIVERSES SYMBOL AND KNOWLEDGE OF ALL IS STORED WITHIN ASTRAL PARTICLES FROM ABOVE PRIMAL ELEMENTS AND ASTRAL AND FROM PHYSICAL TO ASTRAL. 10. GOD AND GODESSES SPHERES FOR EACH PLANET OR BEING A WORLD CAN BE CREATED FOR THEM TO RULE OVER ENERGIES FROM ABOVE OR BELOW, RANGE FROM GOOD, BAD, NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL GOOD AND NEUTRAL BAD, For example if ONE in PHYSICAL CREATES A BELIEF of a BEING HIGHER, and visiualizes that belief a SPHERE FOR CERTAIN BEING BELIEVED IN IS CREATED. 11. INFINETE ETERNAL FORMS ENERGY SPHERES= DIFFERENT ENERGY SPHERES CAN BE CREATED FOR PHYSICAL FORMS AND THEM BALANCED AND RULED OVER BY PLANETARY OR ANGELIC/DEMONIC OR GOD/GODESSES SPHERES. FOR EXAMPLE PLANET GOVERNS OVER A CERTAIN PART OF THE PHYSICAL BODY SO AN ENERGY SPHERE IS CREATED FOR THAT PART OF THE FORM. DIFFERENT ENERGIES MIXING WITH EACH-OTHER AND FOR THE ASTRAL AND PHYSICAL FORM TO MAKE THEIR BALANCE. 12.ETERNAL INFINETTE TIME SPHERE= WHERE ALL LAWS, KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM OF TIME FOR DIFFERENT WORLDS/DIMENSIONS ARE CREATED AND THE SETTING OF TIME FOR DIFFERENT BEINGS OF FORM IS STORED FOR. 13. ETERNAL INFINETE DIMENSIONAL SPHERES FOR FORMS = IN DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS EXIST DIFFERENT SPIRITS IN FORMS AND ACT ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT LAWS OF THEIR DIMENSION. FROM LOWER TO HIGHER THE MORE COMPLEX THE DIMENSION BECOMES FROM SUB-ATOMIC PARTICLES TO UNIVERSES. 14. ARCHITYPAL SYMBOL SPHERE , CENTRE OF UNIVERSES= FOR ETERNAL INFINETE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE FOR THE ALL AND FOR ALL SPHERES ACT ACCORDINGLY TO KEEP INFINETE ETERNAL BALANCE IN THE UNIVERSES AND TO CONNECT DIMENSIONS WITH EACHOTHER BY LAWS AND FOR SPIRITS IN DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS TO CONNECT WITH EACHOTHER. FOR THE ALL TO BECOME ALL KNOWING BEING/BEINGS IN THEIR UNIVERSES. BODY/body's mind and soul, soul mind=astral body's mind=eternal infinite, i one knows and belives, and so it is so. In all dimensions. ONE CAN LEARN WHAT HAPPEND BEFORE ALL AND AFTER ALL IF YEE KNOW SO AND BELIVE SO AND KNOW THE TRUTH. To obtain the KNOWLEDGE of the UNIVERSE, ONE must/can activate the KEYS OF SEVEN and learn of the SYMBOLS of THE UNIVERSE. To CREATE inner UNIVERSE OR MULTIVERSE. Explaination of DEATH> Death is no more than HELPER for the transition of the SPIRIT of who THEE be from one FORM to the NEXT into SPIRIT WORLD, to take your OWN FORM. Every CONSCIOUSNESS IS THE MASTER of THEIR SPIRIT in FORM AND THEIR OWN MASTER OF THEIR FORMS DEATH AS IMMORTAL SPIRITS AND IMMORTAL CONSCIOUSNESSES. Numerology: meaning adding numbers together by adding them to one diget number (88= 8+8= 17=1+7=8) 8 is base frequency of which 88 vibrates as, as everything and everyone vibrates. (link: www.horoscope.com/us/horoscopes/numerology/index-horoscope-numerology.aspx) TEADMISED SULLE UNIVERSUMILT JA ZEL-ta-huh-diiv-feim-gron-Ro-mul-dovh-Fo-Drem-Shul-Neh-Viir-Zii-Zah-Laah-Gaan-haas'ilt. KNOWLEDGE TO THEE AND MUCH LOVE TO THEE. Physical body, physical MIND into astral MIND and astral body aka soul = ETERNAL INFINITY, find out if you want to. To make your own astral world in UNIVERSE of many multi-verses. To become ETERNAL INFINETE. O know finally that you are ETERNAL is the point of this knowledge sent before, and some after untill i pass from this physical form to the ETERNAL INFINETE ASTRAL or SPIRIT world. 13 chakras btw some say 7 but there are more and Yee can make more. THANK I THEE FOR BEING OF FORMLESS SPIRIT IN A PHYSICAL FORM GAINING KNOWLEDGE TO WISDOM. HTM TG HERMES TRISMEGISTUS TRICE GREATEST VANJA * Z E L * * * * * * * * * * *

[@mabz3233]

@@NatrajChaturvedi 3. ETERNAL INFINETE GUARDIAN SPHERE which also GUARDS THE SPHERES ABOVE AND BELOW = CAN CREATE BEINGS THAT GUARD THE UNIVERSES FOR ALL INFINETE ETERNITY*Wisdom,knowledge etc...* 4.TESTING SPHERE= Can be created if needed to test BEINGS and LAWS IN THE UNIVERSES as UNIVERSES consist of METAPHYSICAL AND PHYSICAL LAWS TOGETHER, for example LAW OF ATTRACTION BETWEEN DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND MATTERS. 5.ETERNAL INFINETE PRIMAL ELEMENT SPHERE*MIND OVER MATTER*= WHICH CONSCIOUSNESSES CAN USE TO CREATE THEIR WORLDS WITHIN and FORM ANYTHING IMAGINABLE. 6. ETERNAL INFINETE SOUL SPHERE= WHERE ONE CAN CREATE INFINETE AMOUNT OF SOULS AND BEINGS INTO FORMS, WHERE SPIRIT ENERGY COMES FROM FOR ALL, WHERE HIGHER MIND AND SUBCONSCIOUS MIND IS CREATED= For example= ATOMS, PLANTS, ANIMALS, HUMANOIDS, DIMENSIONAL BEINGS, PLANETS, GODESSES/GODS, UNIVERSES. 7. ETERNAL INFINETE BALANCE SPHERE BETWEEN GOOD, BAD, NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL GOOD and NEUTRAL BAD for ALL SEEKING BALANCE and IF KNOWING BEING BALANCED ALL THE TIME. 8. PRIMAL ELEMENTAL SPHERE/PRIMAL SYMBOLS SPHERE= ADDINGS SYMBOLS and SPIRIT GUARD FOR EACH ELEMENTS AND HOW THEY CORRESPOND WITH EACH OTHER, FIRE, AIR, EARTH, WATER, LIGHTNING, COSMOS, LIGHT, DARK, MANA, HEALTH, STAMINA ALL WHICH ARE BALANCED BETWEEN GOOD, BAD, NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL GOOD, NEUTRAL BAD. 9. ASTRAL SPHERES-SPIRIT WORLDS, HOW MANY UNIVERSES AND WITHIN WORLDS, DIMENSIONS HAS THEIR OWN SPIRIT WORLD/ASTRAL WORLD WHICH ALL ARE CONNECTED WITH THE ARCHITYPAL UNIVERSES SYMBOL AND KNOWLEDGE OF ALL IS STORED WITHIN ASTRAL PARTICLES FROM ABOVE PRIMAL ELEMENTS AND ASTRAL AND FROM PHYSICAL TO ASTRAL. 10. GOD AND GODESSES SPHERES FOR EACH PLANET OR BEING A WORLD CAN BE CREATED FOR THEM TO RULE OVER ENERGIES FROM ABOVE OR BELOW, RANGE FROM GOOD, BAD, NEUTRAL, NEUTRAL GOOD AND NEUTRAL BAD, For example if ONE in PHYSICAL CREATES A BELIEF of a BEING HIGHER, and visiualizes that belief a SPHERE FOR CERTAIN BEING BELIEVED IN IS CREATED. 11. INFINETE ETERNAL FORMS ENERGY SPHERES= DIFFERENT ENERGY SPHERES CAN BE CREATED FOR PHYSICAL FORMS AND THEM BALANCED AND RULED OVER BY PLANETARY OR ANGELIC/DEMONIC OR GOD/GODESSES SPHERES. FOR EXAMPLE PLANET GOVERNS OVER A CERTAIN PART OF THE PHYSICAL BODY SO AN ENERGY SPHERE IS CREATED FOR THAT PART OF THE FORM. DIFFERENT ENERGIES MIXING WITH EACH-OTHER AND FOR THE ASTRAL AND PHYSICAL FORM TO MAKE THEIR BALANCE. 12.ETERNAL INFINETTE TIME SPHERE= WHERE ALL LAWS, KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM OF TIME FOR DIFFERENT WORLDS/DIMENSIONS ARE CREATED AND THE SETTING OF TIME FOR DIFFERENT BEINGS OF FORM IS STORED FOR. 13. ETERNAL INFINETE DIMENSIONAL SPHERES FOR FORMS = IN DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS EXIST DIFFERENT SPIRITS IN FORMS AND ACT ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT LAWS OF THEIR DIMENSION. FROM LOWER TO HIGHER THE MORE COMPLEX THE DIMENSION BECOMES FROM SUB-ATOMIC PARTICLES TO UNIVERSES. 14. ARCHITYPAL SYMBOL SPHERE , CENTRE OF UNIVERSES= FOR ETERNAL INFINETE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE FOR THE ALL AND FOR ALL SPHERES ACT ACCORDINGLY TO KEEP INFINETE ETERNAL BALANCE IN THE UNIVERSES AND TO CONNECT DIMENSIONS WITH EACHOTHER BY LAWS AND FOR SPIRITS IN DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS TO CONNECT WITH EACHOTHER. FOR THE ALL TO BECOME ALL KNOWING BEING/BEINGS IN THEIR UNIVERSES. BODY/body's mind and soul, soul mind=astral body's mind=eternal infinite, i one knows and belives, and so it is so. In all dimensions. ONE CAN LEARN WHAT HAPPEND BEFORE ALL AND AFTER ALL IF YEE KNOW SO AND BELIVE SO AND KNOW THE TRUTH. To obtain the KNOWLEDGE of the UNIVERSE, ONE must/can activate the KEYS OF SEVEN and learn of the SYMBOLS of THE UNIVERSE. To CREATE inner UNIVERSE OR MULTIVERSE. Explaination of DEATH> Death is no more than HELPER for the transition of the SPIRIT of who THEE be from one FORM to the NEXT into SPIRIT WORLD, to take your OWN FORM. Every CONSCIOUSNESS IS THE MASTER of THEIR SPIRIT in FORM AND THEIR OWN MASTER OF THEIR FORMS DEATH AS IMMORTAL SPIRITS AND IMMORTAL CONSCIOUSNESSES. Numerology: meaning adding numbers together by adding them to one diget number (88= 8+8= 17=1+7=8) 8 is base frequency of which 88 vibrates as, as everything and everyone vibrates. (link: www.horoscope.com/us/horoscopes/numerology/index-horoscope-numerology.aspx) TEADMISED SULLE UNIVERSUMILT JA ZEL-ta-huh-diiv-feim-gron-Ro-mul-dovh-Fo-Drem-Shul-Neh-Viir-Zii-Zah-Laah-Gaan-haas'ilt. KNOWLEDGE TO THEE AND MUCH LOVE TO THEE. Physical body, physical MIND into astral MIND and astral body aka soul = ETERNAL INFINITY, find out if you want to. To make your own astral world in UNIVERSE of many multi-verses. To become ETERNAL INFINETE. O know finally that you are ETERNAL is the point of this knowledge sent before, and some after untill i pass from this physical form to the ETERNAL INFINETE ASTRAL or SPIRIT world. 13 chakras btw some say 7 but there are more and Yee can make more. THANK I THEE FOR BEING OF FORMLESS SPIRIT IN A PHYSICAL FORM GAINING KNOWLEDGE TO WISDOM. HTM TG HERMES TRISMEGISTUS TRICE GREATEST VANJA * Z E L * * * * * * * * * * *

[@priortokaraew7569]

Where else can one look for this high wisdom?

[@lucyilluminati7898]

Magick

[@littlebird3495]

There is something about this theory that just feels intuitively right.

[@gazmasonik2411]

All agreement with Law of One by Ra .

[@willisverynice]

That's what the mushroom told me.

[@MrTunapie]

I agree with you. At first, I totally dismissed Dr Hoffman's theory, but the more I listen to him talk, both here, in Dr Shermer's interview, and his TED talk, its starting to make sense. I ordered a copy of his book. I am very interested in seeing the feedback he gets from other scientists. I would love to hear Dan Dennett's thoughts on this.

[@gazmasonik2411]

@@MrTunapie he references similar Unusual insights as Rupert Sheldrake Even the science paradigm being one free miracle we provide the test lol

[@littlebird3495]

Armenias Thunk Some might say it’s arrogance to claim one can be certain of anything one way or the other regarding the nature of reality. I guess that might put you in the gullible category as well 😉

[@SweetSagan]

As an RN and a student of non duality, and as a huge fan of Donald Hoffman I'm really loving this video. His theory completely resonates with me.

[@johnnycakeslim]

Deep subjects like this require more than a quick video loaded with loose ends. Other scientists like Bruce Lipton, Tom Campbell at least bring it around to love being the highest of order that we are evolving towards which, for me, makes looking into it feel good.

[@johnnycakeslim]

@Psicólogo Miguel Cisneros Thanks for asking...Hi I havn't watched this video in a while and my recollection is vague and difficult to recall. My comments above are per other scientist perception of reality boiled down to quantum soup of waves and particles influenced by subconscious and less by consciousness. I sense that reality is based on perception and choice. I also sense I can change my perception of what we call reality with new intentions and elevated emotions that open doors to new possibility. The emotional aspect of being human with these perceptions is the tricky part for me.

[@rachaelkasper5445]

Many Pagans, including me, say "Don't conjure and invite a consciousness from a portal you're not prepared to banish." This is fascinating and explains scientifically what Pagans have practiced in a raw form and I've always known that our practices and rituals tap into something that what will someday be quantified. Dr. Hoffman and his colleagues are getting there and I'm beyond excited about this research.

[@LizNP]

I totally agree with this. Dr. Hoffman explains it all.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Is the word Banish, or Transend?

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

lol?

[@SarcasticPixie]

The full “truth” if we ever uncover it can be found in bits and pieces in all religions and philosophies. We all have pieces of it, but we all also have some BS mixed in.

[@nowHere6285]

I love love love it! "Maths and consciousness are like flesh and bones." "Yes, psychedelics may be a technology by which we can hack our interface to transition to other interfaces".

[@sorcerykid]

I keep coming back to this video because it's so inspirational! Back when I was in preschool in the 80s, I believed very strongly that everything was interconnected consciously. People tried to convinced me otherwise, just like they tried to indoctrinate me with a lot of other foolish nonsense. Humans really are a sad species that could so benefit from spiritual enlightenment.

[@patrickbarnes9874]

You had a strong belief that everything was interconnected consciously in PRESCHOOL? That seems bizarre. I don't see many 3 year olds discussing metaphysics. You must be a phenomenal genius.

[@toddmaek5436]

I think of it almost like cryptos

[@toddmaek5436]

@@patrickbarnes9874 its not that far fetched

[@matsveritas2055]

Intuitive knowledge is common in children, until the standardized authoritarian school system utterly devastates our trust in intuition.

[@ромаЕ-р5ч]

i watch every video with donals also - he is amazing!

[@AT-yg4nk]

This is absolutely one of the most fascinating discussions and conversations I’ve ever seen on the nature of reality. It appears there is a merge of many different schools of thought happening here. The eastern philosophies, the new age ideologies surrounding the idea of the law of attraction and the quantum understandings of frequencies and vibrations, and the mixture of early religious dogma in its primitive attempt at explaining the natural world. Somehow this theory finds a thread between all of it! Fascinating. Also, regarding the section on psychedelics being a tool to access different “interfaces” in this user interface PERFECTLY describes the experience. I’ve always believed that a psychedelic experience was more than just my brain producing a visual auditory concoction for me to enjoy, but that something far more profound and real is taking place. You’re actually opening your pineal glad to other frequencies or interfaces and actually acquiring either a higher level of consciousness, or it’s a loophole in having the “mask” and curtain wiped away and your peering into the inter-workings of our three dimensional reality. Just incredible.

[@guilhermevcz]

That's not just the best interview Don Hoffman has done, that's one of the best interviews I have seen in my life. A talking about AI, psychology, physics, math, psychedelics, spirituality, and so on, until the fundamental basis of the reality, wow! Don Hoffman is on the edge of researching some of the most amazing ideas of our time! A lot of thanks to Zubin, what you did by recapitulating ideias, resuming concepts and going deep to make some questions did this interview really amazing as it is!

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

Read the Amazon Kindle book, THE TRUTH , The Illumination of Conscience by Jeffrey Michael Simoneaux if you like this you will love the E-book and it is only $1.99

[@charlesbankston1626]

Have you read Tom Campbell's, My Big T.O.E.?

[@counterculture10]

I agree!

[@VincentVerschoore]

Exhausting to have a nearly 2 hours high, man this is one great conversation.

[@christopherarmstrong2710]

11:22 How to win the game 14:20 You’re the author of space time 57:50 Scientific spirituality 1:21:22 The “meaning of life” 1:23:40 Dogmatism 1:24:06 The point about science is to be precise 1:26:00 Psychology 1:28:10 Logic & reason evolved as a social tool of persuasion 1:30:00 If resources were not limited, there would be no reason for competition or evolution 1:31:00 Medical industry silos 1:38:10 Psychedelics

[@mailill]

Christopher Armstrong Thanks! I put your beginning of the list here (I found it way down among the other comments): 11:20 How to win the game 14:20 You're the author of space time 57:50 Scientific spirituality

[@christopherarmstrong2710]

mailill - Right on, just added them to the list.

[@lisatruthseeker2748]

Did I miss the subject of some humans, and military leave their bodys to do Astro Traveling?

[@atomusbliss]

right on thank youse

[@rellyjae298]

U the mvp of the comment section😉

[@franswa7251]

Great interface, I mean interview! Don says “I don’t want to be dogmatic but I have to pursue this goal”..... I have never “met” someone so humble and modest as this kind gentle being! Thank you Mr Hoffman.

[@beefy32]

My theory is this: When you dream you see lots of beings with seemingly their own awareness, you interact with them and they seem separate to you. In reality all the characters in your dream are created by one consciousness, your consciousness. You realise this when you wake up. But in dreams your consciousness is fragmented to create all areas of the dream world. Maybe this reality works like the dream reality and we are all versions of one consciousness experiencing itself through different vehicles.

[@larryyoung4827]

rob scrivener Absolutely

[@HDvids101]

Think - virtual reality trainer

[@jazzmac03]

Cool idea

[@sahinandrew]

too bad buddha came up with it earlier :/ no cookie for you mr!

[@jamesleon4883]

some dreams, some dreams are really another reality.

[@consciously73]

Love the interviewer's enthusiasm on this topic, I find it equally fascinating

[@250txc]

Ok but myself, I have had enough of grinning jack-a$$s telling us about life.

[@jshannock]

@@250txc you must be stupid af

[@otterrivers3765]

If you just listen and don't look at the screen you won't see him grinning...... Solved.

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

The Truth The Illumination of Conscience written in 2011 by author Jeffrey M. Simoneaux This was described in great detail about what and how the reality and nature of the universe truly is and that our perceived reality is profoundly different. We are truly beings of light and energy and our senses are transmitters designed to read their code and our brains are computers that use that code to create our false perceived reality.

[@jankelsey9738]

I'm an RN long-term meditator and student of non-dualistic Advaita Vedenta. I've never heard of Dr. Hoffman before this interview. I appreciate his scientific perspective and offerings to the materialistic perspectives of cognitive neuroscience and the hard problem of consciousness, however there is absolutely nothing he's presenting that is any different from non-dualistic ancient scriptures. The major differences are the language used, math and the scientific perspective. In my opinion, these scriptures explain physicality, mind, and pure consciousness-which is considered the ultimate reality, better than any scientific theory or explanation I’ve encountered to this day. Most ancient texts speak of a fundamental oneness, or a unitary experience beyond matter, time and space, that is omnipresent and eternal, called pure consciousness. Pure consciousness is obscured by mind; mind is referred to as the great deceiver of the nature of reality. Meditation and other more specific subtle science techniques were given to humanity in order to transcend the limitations of mind, and experience more expansive aspects of consciousness-the layers of which are explained in incredible detail, beyond individual perceptional limitations, resulting in non-dualistic awareness considered to be the fundamental nature of reality. This is why peak experiences during meditation, near death experiences and some plant induced ethneogen experiences have many seemingly mind trippy similarities-which is exactly the point, to expand awareness of consciousness beyond materialism. With the ultimate goal resulting in a permanent transcendence of dualistic experience while in the body. Most world religions have been fashioned after individuals who spout this message about unitary reality/oneness. The dogma, superstition, and ritualistic elements of religions get added on later by those who don’t understand or comprehend the precise point of these teachings. Since childhood I've had many odd experiences non-drug induced experiences. Since I've been meditating I've had more than a handful of unitary experiences during seated meditation, and a few, while interacting with others. Returning back to normal, l consider lower, awareness is a total mind fuck. You can't forget these experiences. It's sad to come back, but it unlocks other aspects of the mind; intuition is greatly expanded along with emotional intelligence & self-regulation, cognitive and emotional empathy, and compassion for others regardless of how much you may disagree with their actions, or words. This is how people evolve and become more human. I really enjoyed Dr. Hoffman’s scientific contributions mathematics and explanations; however, I really think that the point of human experience is to individually evolve our consciousness which has a dramatically positive affect on the world around us. It will really be interesting to see what additional technological advances develop from his studies. I hope he's successful in expanding our materialistic paradigm because if you haven't had any non-materialistic experiences most people struggle to think, or outright deny the possibility of a non-materialistic realm. Thanks for this interview Zdogg.

[@jankelsey9738]

Zdogg, if you're inclined read the book Kundalini Vidya, the Science of Spiritual Transformation written by Joan Harrigan. She's a western trained psychologists who writes, in significant detail, about the subjective scientific process of spiritual evolution, mind and pure consciousness from an experiential perspective. You may find it enlightening, pun intended.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Love the clarity written here. Just lovely.

[@xiomimesis]

Accurate. Spaced paragraphs would make this much easier to digest though

[@jankelsey9738]

@Urayis wish l she studied under a true Sadguru for 30 years. His specialty was Traditional Kundalini Science (TKS). Imo, the TKS part is what the real Sadgurus rarely if ever talk about, but it involves providing specific practices for each individual. His lineage for the first time authorized her to write a comprehensive text from the perspective of Yoga, Vedanta and Traditional Kundalini Science. Of course the realization of Moksha, either at the moment of death or while embodied resulting in Juvanmukta, or Nirvakalpa Samadh if you prefer Advaita Vedanta terminology, is the goal that can only be realized through direct experience. What makes her text unique is that everything in it is based on direct experience, and she outlines in great detail the subtle body architecture and prana functions necessary to allow Kundalino Shakti, the divine within, to evolve the individual more easily. In my experience, it makes realization through Ramana Maharishi direct inquiry more attainable as the budhi is cleared of the sativa, raja, and tamas gunas. Since I've attended the Sadgurus retreats, conducted at his pupils home, I've had increasingly frequent unitary consciousness experiences, as well as experiential realizations of many things written in her book. The book is not theoretical in any way, even though it explains all relevant philosophical theories, in truth it's a comprehensive experiential roadmap, imho and experience.

[@jankelsey9738]

Btw, that dude who calls himself sadguru is scary creepy. Real Sadgurus never advertise themselves as Sadgurus, or even your guru. Their only goal is to introduce you to the divine within, as the true guru. This is quality is what makes individuals like Ramana, Nisgaratta, Ananda Mayi Ma, Ramikrishna, and others so unique. They embodied these universal teachings and their actions were completely congruent with them, because in truth, they were soley animated by the divine.

[@hoovesandpawsanimalrescue]

What does it mean if I only grasp lil bits of the information given on quantum mechanics/philosophy etc., yet I can’t stop geeking out on this stuff?! Especially in the case of alternative realities..I love it! ❤

[@sonyavincent7450]

All you need to understand is that you are the operative agent in your reality and you can learn to direct and control outcomes.

[@glenncrowell6565]

I think it may mean that you can have the digestible bits of this leading work fascinate, actually captivate your interest and triple-fire your curiosity, without needing to understand every bit of the math or all the processes presented. It's awesome isn't it? I'm hooked, enjoy.

[@drumguy2007]

This was an amazing and fascinating listen. The depth of this conversation is beautiful.

[@nehemiahwalker6037]

I applaud this conversation many times. Can't wait for humanity to become more and more mature. Hope we can start having more mature conversations about what and who is God. I can't wait.

[@stm7810]

There is no god.

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

I wonder if those UAP sighting all over the world are real and they have been observing us thinking why are humans missing the obvious and believe in materialistic views only.

[@mrcollector4311]

@@stm7810 there is

[@stm7810]

@@mrcollector4311 what's your evidence? the universe made itself just fine without need for 1.

[@rohlay00]

God fills the gaps

[@theliamofella]

Extremely profound and interesting video, great interviewer and guest , most people still think I'm just crazy when I talk about this stuff,

[@theliamofella]

@Dark Horse sarcasm or straight up?

[@RayderRyGuy]

You’re not crazy bro. It seems like most people choose the blue pill.

[@jackazzen3824]

No they were right, you're crazy. Jk-ing. Who's to say who's crazy? My psychiatrist is constantly telling me I'm crazy and how would he know? He's dead.

[@waldwassermann]

There is only one real and only one real purpose: LOVE.

[@botezsimp5808]

I prefer fun over love.

[@SarcasticPixie]

There is no true fun without love. We are all interconnected, so not loving/harming others only harms and unloves yourself.

[@Mistrix6]

This conversation was absolutley amazing to listen to. Both parties are so intelligent and articulate. Their passionate curiousity about consciousness and reality reminded me of myself. Just awesome. I'm buying the audiobook after I'm done watching this.💙

[@robschwurm6621]

I watch a lot of youtube content, but I never watched a video more than twice. This video I already watched 4 times! I would love to see a continuation!

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

Read the Amazon Kindle book, THE TRUTH , The Illumination of Conscience by Jeffrey Michael Simoneaux if you like this you will love the E-book and it is only $1.99

[@nzmagpie1]

Great topic. Makes a lot of sense. We are definitely dumbed down, for our own survivals sake. Spiritual people are not afraid of death; they see a bigger picture.

[@canadiankewldude]

*_Mat _**_10:28_**_ And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell._* *_KJB_*

[@michaelgrayman7614]

Get him on again. Then again. Then again. I love hearing Hoffman talk but you are the best person I’ve heard interview him. One of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to and I’ve listened to an amount I’d rather not know.

[@BrianScott1111]

This is mind blowing and a great interview. Thank you.

[@papapiers1588]

Lol true…. I started off normal and then my head exploded!!!

[@laurensedbon-thinkmanifest4107]

Fun to find your comment here, Brian Scott! fascinating video and love your work too.

[@WeAreGoingSomewhere]

This is one of the best videos I've ever watched on KZbin. Thank you so much for creating it!!!

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

The Truth The Illumination of Conscience written in 2011 by author Jeffrey M. Simoneaux This was described in great detail about what and how the reality and nature of the universe truly is and that our perceived reality is profoundly different. We are truly beings of light and energy and our senses are transmitters designed to read their code and our brains are computers that use that code to create our false perceived reality.

[@paradiseheaven]

It’s crazy to see how people once would think psychedelics made you crazy, to now, psychedelics actually bringing you closer to reality than our baseline reality

[@paprikash8574]

many people do go crazy on psychedelics.

[@YellowKing1986]

@@paprikash8574 That depends on the kinf of a substance and the dose. People do die while doing sex - is it a bad thing?

[@paprikash8574]

@@YellowKing1986 yeah and most people are not responsible with psychedelics nor with sex.

[@YellowKing1986]

@@paprikash8574 True

[@bimmjim]

@Medicine And The Mind .. If consciousness is non-local, then the chemistry going on in the brain is effect not cause. ..

[@jasminejones9937]

What a fantastic interview VERY INSPIRING Thank god for scientists like him in this game of life 👍

[@caitlynj7466]

This is such a great interview. The best I have ever seen, and I have seen many. The interviewer is so prepared and engaged. His questions are keeping the conversation flowing flawlessly. Just wonderful.

[@davidkeane7802]

Caitlyn J agree entirely!

[@Meekseek]

You're so dumbed down from one agent after the other after the other, anyone with a mind can see thisman is a tool for the criminals who run this world, don't see reality play the game and you may live provided you get all the right social scores - your carbon credits

[@kirstinstrand6292]

@@Meekseek I'm not defending Hofman, but is he too complex for your your mind? I do see holes in some of his logic, but criminal does not appear apt, to me.

[@Meekseek]

@@kirstinstrand6292 no he's not too " complex " for my mind, I see him exactly for what he is and what he's selling.

[@Shamaniax]

Mind blowing! Perhaps there is something to be said of animism? The universe is in fact a organism, a conscious agent, the cosmic mind but what we see is merely the icon limited by our own interface. It's wonderful to see some thought that extends beyond the materialistic paradigm.

[@Shamaniax]

@@TheWorldTeacher Wonderful wisdom. A great deal of it resonates with me. Thank you for taking the time. "the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self." I have experienced this state, pure awareness devoid of the "I" only the realization that I am the universe.

[@KayInMaine]

Yes, what if looking at the universe/night sky is actually the same thing as looking at the broadcast test screen at the end of the broadcasting day? Mind blown!

[@cmacmenow]

Alan Watts brought me here from the 70s! Feels blissfully joyful to have come full circle.

[@counterculture10]

an excellent connection

[@madmaninabox3638]

As a Gamer and student of Psychology, this absolutely fascinates me. More than that.. this feels right. I really think THIS IS IT.. You are absolutely on the right track Don! But you know that 😊 your so giddy about it, which is wonderful! Your passion for this is a breath of fresh air. As someone whose been asking questions of the world around me, seen and unseen, my entire life, I am jumping up and down about this.

[@OrdnanceTV]

Me too. I feel your enthusiasm as much as my own. Yet another crazy and inspiring way that our interfaces are interconnected 😁

[@Tirsogonzales]

From a seasoned Advaita speaker or Non Dual Vedanta speaker point of viiew/experience, Dr. Hoffman is wrong. For thousands of years Non Dual saints, mystics, avatars, Jesus, Budda, Lao Tzu, and representatives of millenary spiritual traditions have not gone extinct, what they represent is "a quantum leap in human evolution" (César Teruel) Consciousness does not evolve. Does not shirink or enlarge. It just is.

[@RichardHarlos]

@@Tirsogonzales wrote, _"Dr. Hoffman is wrong."_ It's useful, both for one's own clarity of thought, and for those who may hear/read what one is trying to convey, to be specific. With that in mind, please quote Dr. Hoffman's error (making sure to preserve the context of the quote), and then specifically elaborate what about it is incorrect. Thanks.

[@canadiankewldude]

@@RichardHarlos *_Mat _**_10:28_**_ And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell._* *_KJB_*

[@RichardHarlos]

@@canadiankewldude I asked Tirso to quote the error his previous comment alleged. You replied to me with a Bible quote. Since a Bible quote isn't an error that Dr. Hoffman said, I don't see the connection. Elaborate, if you please.

[@galactromeda]

Off the charts. One of the most intelligent conversations I've seen in a long time. Very thought provoking and reassuring. "Life insurance is a bet on the objectiveness of reality."

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

The Truth The Illumination of Conscience written in 2011 by author Jeffrey M. Simoneaux This was described in great detail about what and how the reality and nature of the universe truly is and that our perceived reality is profoundly different. We are truly beings of light and energy and our senses are transmitters designed to read their code and our brains are computers that use that code to create our false perceived reality.

[@grantschultz1115]

Wow, thank you both so much for this! I just finished this video after watching The True Nature Of Reality (w/Dr. Bernardo Kastrup) yesterday. Both of them were incredibly fascinating. I also purchased Hoffman's book, The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes. Thank you again, and please keep up the great work.

[@valhala56]

Agreed this is the best introduction to Hoffman I have seen on KZbin.

[@geihoowa]

The rock piece fascinates me. my Grandmother was a Seneca woman. She stated that according to Seneca tradition, the rocks and stones have a language. They have messages for us, and they have a way of telling us what thier stories are. Did the ancient indigenous have more access to different types of portals?

[@SarcasticPixie]

Mormons also believe the earth has a spirit. I’m starting to realize he’s right, and all religions have pieces of truth. The unfortunate thing is they also have a lot of BS mixed in, and it becomes dogma.

[@VernonVince]

One of the best interviews, if not the best, that I heard not only on KZbin, but also on TV or Radio. That's science at its highest level. If you combine what Donald Hoffman says with what Immanuel Kant said about space and time and the difference between noumena and phenomena, then you understand why Kant was an absolute genius. Thank you so much for your fantastic work.

[@DHorse]

It is good. However at 14:00. 'The moon does not exist when I don't look' 'Thats exaxtly right' That both contradicts other statements he makes and is exactly wrong. He goes on to state space and time do not exist outside our minds. This denies noumena in a literal sense. We are left with an absurdity. Easily disproved via experimentation. One must ask what he is then refering to. Hence my other comment. This is another over extension of some good thinking. Phenomena are dictated by noumena however badly. They are a massive reduction of real things. Denying the reality of them doesn't work. He needs to clearly define what he means and avoid redefining common terms if he has a valid point here.

[@DHorse]

So I assert your perception of space time is a modelling tool. It does indeed exist in a direct sense. What it is exactly or its cause is a science / philosophy question but each (space and time) is a real thing. It IS objective reality and noumena whatever our minds do with it.

[@DHorse]

Said another way, 'we are seeing none of the truth' and the Grand Theft Auto metaphor discussed is false here. I support the conventional position.

[@DHorse]

I work with a containment model of reality where scale and size are critical. What we percieve is entirely valid at this scale. The noumena are well represented in our perception. A game displaying on a screen is a direct product of cause and effect. It exists, is real, and is running a very bad model. That we must percieve a reduction and would fail manipulating the electricity is an obvious point that does not support his denial of perception as reflecting objective reality. It's highly reduced nature does not lead to the conclusion it is false. It is a valid internal model not objective reality. Obviously your mind is part of this reality. I don't suggest that current and physics and metaphysics is correct but that his position is contradictory. In what way does his mathematics (which I will look at) show this? He never says. However mathematics is even more of a reduction than mental phenomena. It could well lead to a deeper understanding but like most philosophers he goes off rails with his favorite domain. He over extends the meaning. He is interpreting the math to serve his spiritually fun view of the real it appears.

[@DHorse]

Here's another one. At 23:30 on hard consciousness theory. We are not even close? There are none? 23 months of review tells me a different story. There are very valid theories on this in neurology partly informed by neural network research.

[@DrAdnan]

I wish we knew more about consciousness. It would solve so many spiritual dilemmas.

[@GeoCoppens]

Why??? Consciousness is biological. In the brainstem resides a structure called the reticular formation. When this is stimulated, either from the outside, or from the thinking processes in the cortex (which it in turn stimulates - a circular process) then the organism is conscious or aware. There is nothing spooky going on as some "theorists" like to have it!!! Yes, there are levels of consciousness.

[@bobrobertson3558]

@@GeoCoppens You are another "materialist" person because what you're saying is that physical matter gives rise to consciousness. If so, how do you account for the fact that in a simple double-slit quantum mechanics experiment, the very act of observing causes your "physical" particles to change form? But if you don't observe them, they don't change form. Are they alive and aware that you're observing them and only wanna fuck with your mind if they know you're observing them? No! That would be ridiculous!! Particles are not "alive"!!! In fact, they're not really there at all, as scientists are slowly finding out more and more by the day. The smaller the sizes of the particles that they probe, the more they're finding out that they're all just empty space, and that what we all have originally thought of as "physical" matter are nothing more than a cloud of probability....in other words, your everyday "physical" world is just a bunch of DATA. And, here's the kicker: the ONLY environment where we know of that's made up of nothing but data is a Virtual Reality. We are all Sims residing in this universal Virtual Simulation, and things only appear and feel "physical" to us because we're observing them / experiencing them from OUR point of view.....just like the characters in a sim game like World Of Warcraft thinking that everything they see and feel is real to them because they can't see beyond THEIR reality into YOUR reality. Your consciousness playing as those characters in those games shape them and their world. Just like the Larger Consciousness System exists outside of our physical frame of reference, and experiencing this "physical" reality through us. Do you materialist simpletons get it yet? Or are you still having trouble comprehending all this ?

[@GeoCoppens]

@@bobrobertson3558 It's NOT the observing that causes this, you dodo! It's the act of measurement! That's different!

[@bobrobertson3558]

@@GeoCoppens Its.The.Act.Of.Observing.You.Freak.Just.Like.When.They.Point.The.Camera.By.Itself.Go.Brush.Up.Reading.Or.Watch.The.Documentaries.About.This.Before.Talking. And morons like you and those material scientists (like Brian Green, Sean Carroll, Sam Harris, Leonard Susskind, Lawrence Krauss, etc.) still cannot comprehend AND try to ignore the fact that there's only empty spaces of data to subatomic particles meaning that we live in a VR powered only by our consciousness. You morons can't accept that and try to avoid it, see? Y'all need to learn from the great ones (Ex-NASA physicist Tom Campbell, Electrical Engineer Jim Elvidge, MIT Computer Scientist Rizwan Virk, and Don Hoffman here himself) trying hard to dispense the truth to people rather than worrying about tainting their reps like those automatons that I've named above. Fuck you clowns !!!

[@AL-SH]

@@GeoCoppens Nice failed attempt at describing conciousness. What you've stated above is a total simplification of one of the layers of conciousness. There are layers of layers of layers of conciousness. The more complex the brain becomes of a specie the deeper their consciousness gets. Millions of profound neurologists, biologists, philosophers, and physicists who are much more intelligent than you have dedicated their entire career into understanding conciousness haven't been able to conduct a proper conclusion to this subject.

[@cappnzak]

Faaaantastic! This is the type of material I have dreamt of finding,for so long.I cannot get enough of this delicious brain-food.The concepts and ideas mentioned here,-and other similar sites,-enable one's mind to open up,and travel.They are beautiful and incredible. Thank you. Chris Horgan, N.Z.

[@exxzxxe]

Absolutely the best video on consciousness- all within a discussion by two very brilliant people!

[@chuckbarnes8162]

So, Anais Nin had this figured out many years ago. “We don’t see things as they are, we see things as we are.”

[@chrisbrown8640]

So ......if Reality doesn't agree with your perception of things...just Cancel it !

[@navneetnair]

The Buddha figured it out more than 2500 years ago. This is exactly the Chittamatra Buddhist Philosophy.

[@christianedechert4178]

but as he says, these are just words. he proposes scientific theory.

[@birgitmitchell5648]

@Chuck Barnes -Now we know why the Wachowski Brothers became Wachowski Sisters!!!! Hahahah🤭😂🤣

[@delbertz.osborne9793]

I personally found that in order for me to get intouch with the true me. I need to be able to practice three thing's. (1) mindfulness meditation. (2) An honest review of my day/evening, or bight. Which ever fits. Reviewing ones day is not about beating self up. It's like if you owned a supply business, one needs to take an daily inventory to see how you stand. In mindfulness meditation it's purpose is to be able to get as close to being alone with self, and only self as best as possible, and not adding to a thought that comes. The only exception maybe experiencing being with ones Creator. It's not necessarily important that one believes in a Creator. It was scary at first when I began to experience a quieter mind. I had no idea how many were living in my head rent free. Untill I started evicting them. The little boogers keep trying too sneek back in. Sometimes I find myself inviting one or two back in. But it's not to difficult to kick them out. I've been reviewing my day for about 8 years, and mindfulness meditation for about 6 years. By far many, many, many peoples can't, or not willing to give up precious time for what has been referred too, as naval gazing. I'm retired and have a dog. He joins me in meditation at times. I'm luck, and blessed. The third I'm not going into. However I will add that I couldn't have achieved the third, without achieving the first two. I believe you'll be amazed before your half way through.

[@princegalaxywalker6273]

I didn’t hear you mention Thomas Campbell, author of My Big T.O.E.(theory of everything) which was published in 2003. He has the only complete published theory on Consciousness that I’m aware of.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

interesting, I'll check it out

[@SimoneBergande]

Thanks

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

@@SimoneBergande and you too

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

Read the Amazon Kindle book, THE TRUTH , The Illumination of Conscience by Jeffrey Michael Simoneaux if you like this you will love the E-book and it is only $1.99

[@snap-off5383]

L. Ron Hubbard taught that we observers collectively create the universe in Scientology since the late 50s. This *is* what Scientology is.

[@werquantum]

One of the best interviews--actually, conversations--I've seen. I'd love to see several more hours of this.

[@patera124]

There is a fundamental problem of self-refutation with this thesis, in that it uses evolution, mathematics and science to make the case that the human brain is not disposed to perceive reality as it actually is, but if the human brain is not disposed to perceive reality as it actually is, what basis do we have for assuming that evolution, mathematics and science are accurate representations of reality? This is the problem of the Cretan liar paradox: if our brains are lying to us all the time, how do we know that they aren't lying to us when they tell us that we are lying to ourselves?

[@answersquestioned]

patera124 Interesting points but I have the feeling your argument is stuck in Plato’s cave

[@justinfinch2458]

It is a very valid point and a great one that destroys rational materialistic models. For people that have tasted higher levels of reality in their subtle bodies and who have gone into the state of the Atma or even paramAtma it beca clear that this level of reality is more akin to a collective dream state, no more or less real than a dream

[@TomHaws]

The way I see it, we have a capacity for occasional rational thought that enhances our ability us to survive and reproduce. Living in a post-scarcity regime frees us to use that rationality for play (mathematics, art, etc). The fact that we experientially believe a lie does not mean we have no capacity to see it rarely or collectively as a lie.

[@shadowolf3998]

We know that Mathematics are true because of the effect that we perceive, we see a representation of reality relative to something but never directly, that is why he always gives the example of a computer desktop being an interface but not the truth behind the interface, its purpose is to more efficiently navigate in the computing environment (basically 0 and 1 being electricity and not-electricity). Basically that means that our mathematics and theories are simply languages to communicate/express/convey an aspect of truth/reality but never in a literal sense, furthermore even if we can communicate in the same language and understand each other it does not mean that we are correct on our assumptions since our very senses and the tools we are using are only approximating "truth" to us, even our tools and how we use them are relative, never direct, when you measure something you practically throw something at it (output) and you receive something back (input) therefore you can never get 100% accurate on your experiments. Also our brains do not lie, they just filter out information, not only our brains but our senses combined with our brains as well, Dr Hoffman simply suggests that we filter-out information that does not serve us to our survival needs due to the theory of evolution. I personally am unsure if I agree with the later but I surely agree with the rest.

[@Meekseek]

They are lying to us, count on it. Who is he? A cognitive psychologist and popular science author who is basically telling the public don't see the truth, play the video game get your social score points, the truth is too complicated for us mere minions.

[@sellmeyoursoul6601]

Ive thought about similar ideas for years and alot of people do but if this guy proves it with math hes legend

[@linhbanh4614]

He also indicated that this work could take centuries.

[@omnissiah1119]

By the way, I just have to say that I really love the usage of language here! It is massively simplifying these concepts and making them far easier to digest! I especially loved the rock analogy and the following address to existing counter-arguments and the following rebuttals. Greatly appreciated!

[@geronimosbones]

Hoffmans remix of Nonduality and Neoplatonism is brilliant. The way he takes the two worlds of science and monist/nondual metaphysics and brings them back together (they never should have been parted) is genius and long overdue. However, it is important to note that much of what he is doing is translating semantics between science and classical nondual/monistic metaphysics. For example - Conscious Agents = "souls/Atman." This is the metaphor of Indras web turned into a mathematical diagram rather than a metaphor of drops of dew on a web. Souls being subdivisions of the infinite monad/brahman (the totality of consciousness). The more finite the soul, the more finite the manifestation in consciousness (atoms < cells < animals < people < ? Angels? Gods? GOD?). This brings the two groups into a place where we can have a more complete perspective. As a nondualist with a strong interest in science, I agree substantially with the majority of what Hoffman says, and any dissagreement likely stems from a difference of language and metaphor, not necessarily because he is wrong. Anyway, there really is nothing new under the sun. We are all just cows chewing cud.

[@shelliepetty4951]

Completely profound! I sometimes listen to this at night to help me sleep

[@mondoenterprises6710]

moi aussi.

[@MandoRick1978]

How do you know it is profound if you hardly understood any of it?

[@shelliepetty4951]

@@MandoRick1978 I understood ALL of it. Never assume

[@shelliepetty4951]

@@MandoRick1978 good to know I'm not the only one you're trolling on these comments 😂

[@mondoenterprises6710]

@@MandoRick1978 Good point. lol. I have focused on it many times and my learning has increased and I think I get it now. Learning something sometimes takes me numerous times. There are also excellent interviews with Hoffman elsewhere on the web about this topic.

[@kcvinton]

This is the best thing I’ve ever watched in my life.

[@jjones7837]

One of the Greatest Comments of the Year.

[@ashleysmith7238]

Check out his conversation with Sam Harris. Very good also

[@FitOutsideTheBox]

Love this comment lol. How can I not watch after this😜

[@asmodeus1234]

Watch his TED talk, it's muy bueno

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

Read the Amazon Kindle book, THE TRUTH , The Illumination of Conscience by Jeffrey Michael Simoneaux if you like this you will love the E-book and it is only $1.99

[@tobyhdr]

Wonderful interview! I've been following Don Hoffman for a few years now, and agree with those who say this is a great interview for getting to the heart of his perspective quickly and clearly. I'd like to add that what Donald Hoffman is doing mathematically, Tom Campbell is doing both internally in term of a scientific exploration of consciousness, and physically as a series of double-slit experiments that recently began at CalTech (I believe). I've been following Tom Campbell for years too, and see his and Hoffman's perspectives as almost 100% compatible. A discussion between the two men would be very interesting indeed! Perhaps hosted by ZDoggMD...

[@bastianray6334]

Is there any similarity to David Bohm's implicate order and Robert Lanza's Biocentrism ?

[@tobyhdr]

@@bastianray6334 My answer can only be that of a layman, but for what it's worth, I'll try. I only have the shallowest exposure to implicate order and Biocentrism (brief glance at both theories just now), but do see some similarities, particularly with Biocentrism. Perhaps, then, my best shot at a helpful answer is by sketching out virtual-reality theory as pithily as I can. In Campbell's terms, consciousness is not infinite (he rejects infinity, sees it as impossible). He asserts a pixel- or digital-like granularity to consciousness. In a sense, this is a little like atomism: there is an indivisible something. That this something is not 'physical' - there is no actual spacetime - does not mean this digital principle of indivisibility is different from that of atomism. Metaphorically then, we can view this 'stuff' or granularity of consciousness as the 'bits' with which consciousness can create order or patterns. That gives us an elegant non-dualistic framework. Our 'physical' universe is thus a 'virtual' or information-based construct of and by consciousness - much like a game - through which consciousness can have and learn from richly informative experiences that help it, both as 'souls', or "individuated units of consciousness", or "conscious agents" to become more loving, or "to become love". In biocentric terms - by way of comparison - life is the driving force behind the game. In Campbell's model, scientific endeavour is uncovering the ruleset - the 'objective' truths - of our virtual reality. But the game is not hard-coded. It is procedural, or evolving code/mathematics, that started with the Big Bang, aka the Initial Conditions, and evolved more or less as science has thus far determined, but with life (consciousness) driving it, nudging it whenever it deems necessary, then actively participating once sufficiently complex biological entities evolved to be 'used' as avatars in the game.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@tobyhdr If you want an update to David Bohm then study Professor Basil J. Hiley. Hiley is buddies with Sir Roger Penrose. Reject this "pop" science b.s. Nondualism is best explained by noncommutative geometry. Stanford Linear Accelerator Center figured this out - study Eddie Oshins. Just keep researching - don't rely on the "Marketing" of science. Does Tom Campbell or Don Hoffman discuss abrupt global warming and the ecological crisis? Western physics is not an accurate representation of reality - otherwise we would not have the fastest destruction or biological annihilation of life on Earth today - same with Robert Lanza's "biocentric" vision. A similar view was espoused by the book "Biocosm" - it's all modern Westernized or eurocentric b.s. that ignores the hard truth of all our "externalities" of science.

[@georgiamorrow8233]

Voidisyinyang Voidisyinyang 🤩 would I love to have an evening of debate with you all!

[@kbshrink]

Thank you both for excellent conversation. Hallucinogens and meditation DO take your there. I ‘died’ at 16 on a 4 way hit of LSD . It was indescribably blissful. ❤️

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

Hippie bs

[@kbshrink]

Try it you might be surprised

[@dorothysay8327]

@@TheGuiltsOfUsoh do grow up.

[@rainerkornmusic]

Of course you're not supposed to say this in public little Wizard. No one will believe you 😂 People will think that you are nuts 😅

[@mushedits]

Eat mushrooms for a safer experience of the afterlife. LSD is a little more dangerous.

[@jirkap5023]

I won't lie. Professor Hoffman's affiliation with the random word generator AKA Deepak Chopra is concerning and somewhat disqualifying. However, his academic credentials are great and the evidence presented in his TED talk is rather compelling and frankly, it was maybe the most interesting TED talk I have ever seen. I will give this 2 hour marathon a try. :)

[@behappy8012]

Why is it concerning that Dr. Hoffman is aware of Vedic Science which already explained quantum mechanics 9,0000 years ago. The ancient Vedics had superior knowledge and understanding of the universe than modern science does today.

[@BavonWW]

"random word generator" Droll, and so very true.

[@SoulfulTruth]

@@behappy8012 What is your proof for "9,000 years ago"?

[@SoulfulTruth]

Hoffman's academic credential are NOT great - you don't seem to realize your academic standards are embarrassingly low - Hoffman teaches at a public institution - which means he "instructs" college students with unimpressive intellects. What do you suspect would be the reason that he's not working for the billionaires?

[@svonkie]

Not working for the billionaires? Is that the litmus test in your narrow mind? LOL

[@seniorhache.]

Astrology is a metaphor, psychoanalysis is a metaphor, we are a metaphor ... Hoffman's proposal is a beautiful and structured metaphor ... you don't need to understand its mathematical foundations to appreciate its implications.

[@MrTrda]

Senior Hache - Yes you are right - it IS all metaphor. Do you know for what?

[@MrTrda]

Metaphors all the way down... exactly. It culminates with the death of the ego and all signs point toward this experience - the most profound of all experiences- the moment you realize there is no you. Traditionally, this has been achieved by the use of psychedelics in an initiation of some 8 experiences interspersed with the perennial teachings. Jesus Christ is/was a metaphor for this process. Died and Born again.

[@leandrosilvagoncalves1939]

Here because of BERNARDO KASTRUP 's interview And I'm getting this book right now !!!

[@williamcrowley9156]

If you haven’t already, join Mind Matter Society, submit a paper. What did Dennet say? Just a rural doc but still have a keen academic interest. Thank you for this content!!

[@alisonrogerson3143]

Astral travel can change our interface & even transcend it to other realities such as the afterlife

[@ZeeJayBay]

Astral travel can kill you??

[@braedenmoses]

Beautiful representation of Left Brain Dominance. 🤔🤔 The idea of using abstractions alone (mathematics) to make conclusions on the “true” nature of existence demonstrates the one sidedness of this manner of thought. Mathematics itself, is an abstraction of the mind just as any other layer of reality we experience on a daily basis. Numbers themselves came into our reality field as an abstract means of making sense of what we see! (This is where a logical mind begins noticing paradox) 🌱 Thus, what value does an argument such as this hold when the fundamental basis of one’s negating reality, stems from the same source which you are stating you reject outright? Paradoxical to the nth degree.. What we experience is a result of everything we have conditioned ourselves to see, expectations, patterns, and creative imagination, along with all phylogenetic conditioning all playing a composite role in what we call reality. These are the means in which we make what little sense of the world we can, and to base the value of the world in whether or not what we see is “true” or a “representation” of the mind, demands a strict definition of what is “truth” and what part it plays in the unfolding of our lives. This was simply part of the equation, there is more to life than what we see, but what we see determines what we inevitably become.

[@gazmasonik2411]

Truth and Mind is without charectorised definition or Parallel in relation to its enquiry with view to engineer back disturbing framework without boundaries but still worth looking at.into over .. Visually ?

[@braedenmoses]

Gaz Masonik was that a word jumble brother? Sorry, no entiendo.

[@ketchup5344]

crikey this guy is brilliant and the interviewer is first class

[@ik1408]

On 11th minute he says that only organisms that see not the real world but what matters to them can survive. But this contradicts to his example of the beetles that nearly became extinct because they could not see the reality and mistook bottles for females.

[@ketchup5344]

@@ik1408 and indeed I also have often made similar mistakes and woken up surrounded by bottles after a good night out 😄

[@mfvreeland]

This is basically Kant's First Critique. It's always interesting to me when science catches up with philosophy from hundreds of years ago.

[@pierrebernard5922]

After 20 years of studies. I am open to almost anything

[@aysegultarm7440]

Waow , interesting.That reminds Plato’s allegory of the cave.

[@jessewallace12able]

Yeah this is Plato.

[@21stCenturyDub]

Curiously, Chuang Tsu's butterfly dream as well

[@richardhill3405]

@@21stCenturyDub I got Plato's cave as well. It's all woven into history. This is simplifying and demonstrating it with mathematics. I like Bertrand Russel's; A History of Western Philosophy as a base to build on. I've replaced the old testament as my base with it and not lost anything as it is referenced in the book. Plus, I organize all the other texts of knowledge in a better framework through it.

[@richardhill3405]

@Language and Programming Channel I struggle at the moment to read books myself. Fortunately for books I like, Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy' is in audio format. My bedtime listen-the best getting to sleeping aid I've ever had. 🙂

[@richardhill3405]

@Language and Programming Channel I like Plato's Republic. It seems to me that a lot of the ideas that the people that are in power use to build on: that and The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. Add a bit of Bertrand Russell, a History of Western Philosophy. If we want to understand the minds of the people in power, Having a good knowledge of those books is essential. (Or that's what I think)

[@jacobdines6370]

Yo ZDogg, I’m part of the 15% group you mentioned at the end. I’m a doc in residency training now and I find myself spending a significant amount of time investigating and reading about the nature of mind, meditation, consciousnesses , and reality. It’s motivating to find an influential person in the medical field like yourself with a similar passion for exploring these intriguing concepts. 🙏🏽

[@rohlay00]

Check out "Pointing out the Dharmakaya" by Khenchen Thrangu. Not a beginner book on buddhism. But if you're search for truth is strong, this book is indispensable and brings truth to every moment of life, whether you are in deep contemplation or taking care for patients at a hospital. The Dharmakaya is similar to what Hoffman described as this infinite pool of consciousness. But buddhist don't spend their days talking about it (like in this podcast) but rather experiencing the fullness of it. It is different from the Hindu concept of universal consciousness, as it is refutes the existence of an independent self. This view doesn't hold true under investigation and neuroscience also disproves it. It is the view that the buddhist tradition has come to verify through countless meditators. The view of emptiness. All phenomena (including self, objects, etc.) lack inherent existence and everything exists interdepenedtly. This view is harmonious with quantum physics, and was realized empirically, though experience. It is true that subjectivity is fallible, but only a fool would completely dispense it. We just have never learned to use it and we have never looked at our own mind! I think the only way to understand consciousness is through consciousness itself, that is through your own experience. The realization of it is far superior to the conceptual elaboration of it (which becomes a memory and fades in impermanence). It is like talking about the taste of chocolate. It is in the realm of subjectivity, and only a crazy person would deny this wonderful subjective experience we are having. I share this with you because I'm part of the 15% of engineers interested in these subjects. And this view has liberated me in a way. I realized that, even though its fun to think about physics, metaphysics, biology, maths, neuroscience, etc. All of this is knowledge, and through this we will never experience the whole, we will always be thirsty for more. On the other hand, to view reality as it is, to refine your faculty of mindfulness and attention to see the nature of reality, this allows you to experience the whole (Dharmakaya) while you are thinking or not thinking, in any activity, as this nature never changes. The nature of self-liberating emptiness. If you are interested in consciousness and meditation this book could really change your perspective. There's a lot of new age talk on non-duality, but no methods for actually realising it. This book is extremely practical and deeply philosophical; concise and to the point. It directly points to the nature of mind. I wish you well on your path.

[@jacobdines6370]

@@rohlay00 very well stated and I totally resonate with what you’ve said. I’ve touched the shores of these experiences and once I did it became one of, if not the most, important realizations I’ve had and the beginning of a life long journey. You have an elegant way of describing the ineffable 🙂 thank you for the reference I will most certainly look into this read.

[@jacobdines6370]

@@rohlay00 I’m interested in what you said about the difference between Hinduism and Buddhism takes on universal consciousness. Can you clarify, is it Hinduism that supports the notion of an independent self? I’m not well versed but my interpretation at surface level was that Hinduism believes in the universal consciousness/source coined Brahman and that all living creatures are little mini off shoots of this brahman coined atman, and then death is sort of returning back to the universal source. As far as there being a true “self” I agree, upon close inspection the notion of a true “I” fades and we are left with the experience of pure awareness -emptiness as you mentioned in reference to Buddhist description.

[@CoachHeyward]

Hey Jacob- do you have a daily meditation practice?

[@vincentbegin1242]

I think Don Hoffman (and his team) is the most interesting guy in our headset. And this interview with him is probably the best one.

[@lifeid.healthpreviousconte7705]

Wow..... my reality has changed once more. This is beyond pan-psychism and a new realm.

[@robertdove6660]

The Book My Big Toe (theory of everthing) written by Thomas Campbell unifies physics, philosophy and metaphysics. It goes into great detail of how this world is a hologram, the creation of god itself, and other interesting subjects. He got all his material through meditation. The story of how he got into meditation is mindblowing.

[@chrisbrown8640]

So your mind has blown then ?

[@Kari.Anonymous]

My Big Toe changed my life and saved my sanity

[@stephenaboasu4705]

This podcast made me buy the book. Not really into metaphysics but he touched on some interesting topics I find interesting

[@thomascross8318]

Well done. The podcast is to get you to buy the book. If this podcast was any good you wouldn't feel the need to purchase the book.

[@faithalive3463]

This is so awesome and makes so much sense love his mind’s ability to work this all out mathematically and scientifically. Honestly it makes so much sense!

[@19582607]

One of the best interviews I have heard, and replayed over and over again, in order to understand more of it. Donald Hoffman's work confirms my strong intuition about consciousness agents like no other I know off, does. I need to read the book 'The case against....'

[@michaelpartas]

Will follow this theory from now on. I love how he explains that of course he is wrong but his math is precise and therefore serves future science. Thats key in my opinion.

[@linhbanh4614]

Basically mathematical spit-balling.

[@jerelull9629]

Mind-interface connection exploded. Will be thinking about this later, when I can get my "feet" back under me.

[@thisfoolsean]

Learning transcendental meditation at age 11, now 40, and have experienced life through different lenses, and belief systems, discovering within my being that a bridge to the other side or connection to it was unusually strong, but just because my bridge is strong and can provide me with stable transfer does not automatically mean that I have the knowledge on how to cross that bridge successfully, and return without a hiccup. I have experienced some truths that cannot be explained. One of the fun theories I’ve entertained, after living with a little girl with autism, observing autistic kids I always got the impression that their seeing feeling hearing a different reality. Like a child from the future trying to get used to the interface with a deeper understanding of the program, which ultimately leads to the obsession they have with a few core activities, or sensoria’s, because it brings them comfort in such a complex dynamic. Tinkering with the interface… hmmm

[@flyingdutchman4you]

Best spent two hours of 2019!

[@cuttingedgetint1250]

I like how he happens to sound like an agent from The Matrix

[@No1Particular]

YES! lol

[@alexukbrighton]

Omg

[@jessewallace12able]

No he sounds like jeff goldblum in jurassic park

[@MysticWAFFLWZ13]

He sounds like a Speak n Spell from the 80s

[@joe2125]

Jesse now i cant fucking unhear it

[@stellau3028]

This is the best video on consciousness ever. I love these tow guys specially Hoffman . Exciting times

[@danielash1704]

My heart is so entrenched in the mindset of the people around me it's like reading there feelings of their own presence to discovering that they have to balance their own ideals together to create the super position in the mindset

[@larry3937]

This is not the ONLY reason I watch you, but it’s a BIG reason!

[@jeffsimoneaux5968]

Read the Amazon Kindle book, THE TRUTH , The Illumination of Conscience by Jeffrey Michael Simoneaux if you like this you will love the E-book and it is only $1.99

[@MontoyaMatrix]

As a practicing Catholic i truly love his many cosmic lines: "Our interface give a genuine portal to other consciousnesses. All human consciousnesses. My cats are my icons. But, i believe that my cat icons are portals to real conscious creatures that i don't want to hurt."

[@josephzultz1551]

Im a Catholic, i havent gone to Mass in a while but with all the freshness thats coming to the Church, ive been drawn back to going to the temple. In my time away from the church i began learning about other traditions amd ways of thought. It seems that our God has been working throughout all inspired humanity on the planet. Of course, the men of the old testement had a more refined inspiration than most. But what ive come to gather is that Gods grace is the craddle of the universe. Everything happens within grace. Even the terrifying things. So with this stuff its just like im witnessing science come to an inspired state of mind. Unfortunately, i dont know how science plans to keep that inspiration without finding faith. Anyway im glad to be alive in the time i am. Peace be with you, brother.

[@KISStheSON...]

@@josephzultz1551 Ephesians 1 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 4 1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Romans 5 1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Psalms 32:7 “Thou art my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.”

[@bretnetherton9273]

Awareness is known by awareness alone.

[@nik8099]

Don't you find it funny that westerners have a hard time understanding this but other cultures found this out thousands of years before?

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

"Why shouldn't we use the best tools of understanding that we have, namely the scientific method, to address the questions that are the most important to us as human beings? Science is up to the task." Gotta love Professor Hoffman. True genius and pioneer!

[@vietnameseloempia]

"sex, it's not a high tech thing but it works" "hey speak for yourself" 😂😂😂

[@atomusbliss]

lol

[@chrisbrown8640]

Some Sex Toys are high tech................

[@erichkaufmann5284]

Game theory evolution is failed, but it might have some success with a “psychopath” like Donald Hoffman behind it 🤣 who better understands social science, then a psychopath? No one 😂🤣 I know because I’m a Diagnosed one.

[@erichkaufmann5284]

Be careful falling victim to us 😂

[@erichkaufmann5284]

“ Red pill” 🤣 you mean the experience you had with Derealisation-disorder in your youth my fellow psychopathic friend @ Hoffman

[@entohack7g500]

11:00 “You'll see your problems multiplied If you continually decide To faithfully pursue The policy of truth” -Depeche Mode

[@devendersehrawat2947]

Monday 3 pm, I hear a phone ringing on a table next to me in my office. I look at it and see a name flash ie "Vaibhav" . It's the same name as one of my friends and hence I remember it. I come back home and go to sleep. I have vivid multiple dreams but the only thing I remember or put an effort to recall was unmistakable pronouncement of a name in the last dream; Mrs Lamput. I wake up at 3 am and wonder what a strange name,never heard of it before and I don't watch television, so let's Google it. I find out it's just a cartoon series and not any person. But wait, the creator's name of the series is the same as the one that flashed on the phone the day before; "Vaibhav". This is just one of the spooky things out of thousands that I have experienced. Maybe the matrix is on to something. Maybe synchronicity is more than just pattern recognition. A coincidence happens once, twice or thrice not hundreds of times. :)

[@aydnwallace7942]

Nice.

[@morgengabe1]

Those lyrics aren't even an example of good hedonsim. They're just ignorant. If you can't solve the problems generated by your own truth then that's your problem to solve. By not following your responsibilitites you really just make the world a worse place to live.

[@entohack7g500]

@@morgengabe1 It was a playful response to the content of the video...that you presumably didn't even listen to before offering your pithy 3rd rate snark in the comments. Thx for your contribution numbnuts.

[@answersquestioned]

EntoHack7G Great quote in this context

[@oceanm1259]

A great interview - well done both. I am a big fan of Tom Campbell's big theory of everything - and virtual realities. This is another brilliant description of reality.

[@align2source]

Amazing interview!!! This topic is totally exciting and I think crucial for the next step in the evolution of true science. Much love! ✨💚🐳

[@rob2297]

“What we cannot speak about, we must pass over in silence.”

[@michaelnice93]

Ludwig Wittgenstein I was thinking along the same theme

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Isn't silence denial?

[@kirstinstrand6292]

@dr badboy I'm still here.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

@@kirstinstrand6292 a slippery slope there

[@xxzitionxxogsongs3085]

i have such a deep understanding of this n i’m still on the younger end of my life. When i talk about these ideas ppl assume i’m crazy my grades in school aren’t good because through out this research u lost interest in school. but i was a gifted child. 12th grade reading in 3rd-4th grade.

[@papapiers1588]

Well… your understanding will make a huge difference in the future. Prepare for the adventure…

[@xxzitionxxogsongs3085]

@@papapiers1588 thank u 4 believing 🙏🖤

[@brianmcleod1683]

I’ve experienced the same thing when I was younger. I remember when I was 4-5 I had scientists study me and my cognitive abilities. My mother got scared as she is a religious person. I understand why she did but I wish she allowed them to continue. As I got older I also sought the truth but along the way I allowed the world, as we perceive it, take hold of me. Don’t allow that to happen to you young man.

[@rachaelfutch7525]

I AM PROUD OF YOU!!! Don’t let that fire die, no matter what. You have something to offer the world!!! Stay curious but remember the way our world is run, get your grades up so you can play the game of our world and get in those positions where you can make a difference!!

[@rachaelfutch7525]

@@brianmcleod1683 I agree, he/she cannot let that fire die. She/he should be aware of how the world works and keep in mind it’s all at her/his fingertips if he can be above it all mentally or knowing the way other people think and perceive their own realities.

[@divineoracle7944]

No one can to told what the Matrix is...You have to see it for yourself.

[@BigSausageTits]

most sensible comment here :)

[@ZDoggMD]

There's a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path. -Morpheus

[@michaelnice93]

The funny thing is Neo and everyone in Zion never left the matrix. They were always just in another level of the matrix. This sinks the whole red pill, blue pill analogy. All this theorizing is just like building a new level of understanding while being inside the matrix the whole time. Thinking you are seeing what is true is just the perspective you prefer, so this theory satisfies that itch for some people allowing them to stop questioning. I like the philosophical school of quietism. Quietism seeks to answer the questions of the mind so it will leave us doubtless and sincere in our relationship to perception. In this case this theory is what will quiet his mind.

[@arcad1an292]

You are looking at it, right now. You just don’t understand it. It’s like the first moment you knew that you existed, but you didn’t understand how, where, when etc. And to this day you cannot understand how you continue to exist and grow.

[@hampsonlaw7642]

@@michaelnice93 You are right. The matrix is a projection of the subconscious. Like you said a change in perspective changes it.

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

Being brand new to these concepts I am having a hard time understanding what you guys are talking about. What I can grasp is fascinating and I have just had a listen to Bernardo Kastrup also. I really hope modern science finds a way of developing all this because it will be the greatest discovery we have ever made and I hope it happens in my lifetime as I am in my 40s now. People who fail to let go of their materialist views will stubbornly hold on to their older ways which will slow down progress. Personally I am ready to absorb some kind of spirituality in my life as I have always been a science geek and I guess an atheist. Imagine how we could change our world if we really understood all the implications?

[@squirlmy]

I'm not so sure it's science that will bring us there. You could learn about Tibetan Buddhism, which has many of the same conclusions. This world is an illusion, there is a greater reality via consciousness.

[@dorothysay8327]

There is only consciousness which expresses as energy in its various forms. Theologians and ancient philosophers have long know the metaphysical, aka the Spiritual, was primary and ‘a priori’ and foundational for all reality. Spirit is eternal. Matter is spiritual energy and does not ‘die’, merely changes form. Atheism is a misconstrual of categories. God does not ‘exist’, as a merely higher ‘being’ among beings -rather God is the Ground of Being itself.

[@donlimuti8659]

Children know intuitively that: The taste of chocolate is more fundamental than Space & Time:)

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

well they understand that it has a more immediate, consistent and instant payoff or gratification whereas space/time and pondering it will lead to probably very little to no gratification and can take a lifetime and may lead to madness. so they are basically smarter than most people, they tend to be able to live in the moment which is something most people lose very quickly and is the cause of most of our problems which are usually self inflicted

[@solcutta3661]

@@King_Flippy_Nips but how completely boring and unfullfilling living only within the moments of immediate reality.. This is why there is so much depression in our time.. Everyone wants to have immediate fulfilment in every area of their objectivity.

[@mikewazzupski]

Children are basically tripping

[@cx777o]

@@solcutta3661 that doesnt mean to stop questioning things and ponder about life, a child does not have the mind and ego of an adult person which starts to think more independently, but we sure as hell can learn from children to be present and cherishing every small bit what occures in your life and also going on about life with a childlike curiosity and playfulness. Pondering and thinking about life can also add to seeing the world as more wonderous than it already is and can aid you in profoundly changing your views of the world by firmly cementing positive perspectives into your life (depending on how you use your mind)

[@DamianSzajnowski]

@@solcutta3661 That's not what this means. Craving gratification you are already pi ut of the now. You are craving an elusive future. You're speaking of hedonism, whereas daoist here and now is closer to the buddhist middle way, hence desiring would precisely be the reason for being unhappy according to them. That is far from living in the moment.

[@sabbapixie]

This is just amazing. This is what we all need to be talking about! Thank you!

[@helloitsme7983]

Check out Tom Campbells My Big Toe (Theory of everything)

[@kirstinstrand6292]

That would be heaven, if the world could converse like this. Maybe in a million years?

[@gashintheatticus]

Is this theory epistemology or metaphysics? I listened to the whole 2 hours and I still can't tell. Does anyone know what Dr Hoffman's views on free will are? It also strikes me as a form of illusionism - if the interface gives an illusory representation of the world, how can one trust the thoughts, ideas, observations, mathematics one comes up with while using that illusory interface. Just saying the theory is built on maths doesn't get you off that hook. Genuine questions - not trolling.

[@gashintheatticus]

@Johnny D OK then - in the simulation is conscious agent theory a form of metaphysics or is it a form of epistemology? 😋

[@linkadict]

to my mind more realted to biology and study of perception, you could connect this easily to epistemology in the way that words works in the same way of our perception, objectifying reality.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

it's just speculation but who really knows

[@dnoordink]

Amazing insights into the truth of reality. What a time to be alive!