The CONFUSING HISTORY of JOKER'S DAUGHTER | Duela Dent

[@betterlatethannever4529]

"The only married super villain.." *Mr. Freeze has entered the chat*

[@Max_Le_Groom]

"Honey, where is My super suit???" Oh wait, this is a different Show.

[@johnburt7935]

Well, of course, neither Mr. Zero nor Mr. Freeze *_WAS_* married pre-Crisis . . . .

[@Xehanort10]

That relationship's a bit frigid though.

[@alisutherland1103]

There is an annual that says otherwise. Dope read new52

[@Tamaki742]

I mean, unless his wife somehow cheated before going into cryostasis, I don't think there's ever any mention of them having a child before.

[@Kingcj2001]

I like Duela. What frustrates me is that she's needlessly complicated. Her being Two-Face's daughter was simple and clean and the potential for Two-Face getting more character development is awesome. Can you imagine Harvey arguing with Two-Face over how they did Duela dirty? Never mind let's factor in the Long Halloween. Such a simple character...needlessly complicated...

[@abbycollins4820]

I wholeheartedly agree, Duela being Harvey’s daughter is SO interesting! Also can we all agree that it was a missed opportunity for her name to be spelled Duella instead of Duela?

[@christopherlyons5900]

@@abbycollins4820 I prefer the single 'l'.

[@MrKodachii]

I like the older concept better, the idea of a mysterious lady appearing as the daughter of different villains. But, it would have been better if it was planned, like there was an overall goal for her doing it. It just sounds cool.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Same

[@ninjaboy4831]

Funnily enough, the Teen Titans Go comic (based off the original cartoon) had an arc that's just that's pretty much that but with Kitten

[@Justforamoment0608]

I like the new 52 version more

[@Dylan-pq3ny]

I think her original concept would be extremely repetitive and be very obvious after it happening twice

[@GrayLanternPPA]

Honestly, I'd rather see her as Two Face's daughter. They really side stepped all of the interesting, fun things that could be done with that.

[@booksvsmovies]

Given that Bruce's childhood trauma coping mechanism is dedicating his life to vigilantism, I think learning a few acrobatic tricks is healthy in comparison

[@ChristopherStLouis-xl1hk]

I died at "Sad Dick Pathos" being almost immediately followed up by "I'm lowkey worried about Dick"

[@GenerationWest]

I legit forgot about her until Punchline started making the rounds.

[@pugking1233]

Same

[@Power-9Hunnid]

You're not the only one.

[@beepmeepxoxo]

Same

[@svagglaorde4387]

I bet DC is gonna make a comic on Harley, Punchline and Duela in the future.

[@Estarfigam]

They could each have a Joker.

[@captainfalconer5869]

@@ooneybird27 Please no...

[@amandak.5967]

I would read that :)

[@luguild7415]

@@ooneybird27 Just no

[@0127sasuke]

Throw Marian drew in there. Duela can decide which one is her pretend-mama

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

I remember when people were hyped for the potential of Joker's daughter appearing in Arkham Knight. That would've given her some good recognition

[@hankw69]

My brilliant, eldest daughter researched, designed and wore a Duela Dent costume for Halloween one year. She had to explain to most that she was NOT the Joker but his 'kinda-adopted' daughter. She received so many 'that's so cool(s)' from home owners that night(and lots of great candy with her little sister, yay!). A true victory for us comic nerds, love her.

[@PinkMelatonin]

@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk Bruh she's not even unknown 🗿🗿🗿

[@woahdatsnoice188]

I did it in middle school and same

[@AmethystRebellion]

@hankw69 Nice!

[@steppin-razor]

So brilliant

[@aceshighdueceslow]

@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk what? I mean, I can understand because of the colour scheme but...you have this giant golden bird on your chest

[@jokerzbabe13]

CC- "the ONLY married supervillain?" DC Comics- "the ONLY married supervillain." Mr. Freeze- *in the corner, clinging to his wife's cryostasis tank*

[@TJ52359]

as I believe others Pointed out... Prior to the DCAU going that Route (5+ years Post-Crisis) Neither Freeze nor any of the 'proto-Freeze' characters had such a back story or the wife to go with it...

[@ronhawk]

Ok "sister hood of the traveling jocker face" is the DC movie we need

[@zaraandrews600]

I know its unrealistic but I would like Harley, Joker's daughter and Punchline just drinking tea and chatting.

[@Marveryn]

why wouldn't it be unrealistic? they could be doing it in Arkam during a group session

[@amandak.5967]

I could see that having some Mad Hatter tea party vibes XD

[@1SpicyMeataball]

Talkin' about clown things.

[@thunderlightningbolt6597]

Just another day in Arkham.

[@Theredplanet08]

same

[@WhiteRaven696]

They should’ve used Duela instead of Punchline, without the creepy “I’m banging him now” undertones. I do love Punchline’s design, but Duela was here before.

[@iancruz6617]

Well we can say in the real world there will be people idol joker, why elsenjoker find people will to wrk with him

[@GeeMannn]

@@iancruz6617 desperation in the hellhole known as Gothan City that's why

[@Justforamoment0608]

I prefer punchline over duela

[@KB-zq9ny]

No, I may prefer her as an anti-hero, like she was before the new 52.

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

duela was more interesting as a fake daughter to the entire rogued gallery than big boobed gore fest with really shallow edgey backstory.

[@mooncaketin]

"Sad Dick pathos" somehow sounds so wrong. Also sounds like the name of a band 😁

[@j2geek]

A pathos with which I'm all too familiar.

[@ThisCharmingMan1984]

Wish I’d read the comments first, as I just posted something very similar haha. Oh, well; great minds, and all that. 😀👍

[@jodorgu8640]

I thought I was the only one!

[@lakersin4]

"I'm low-key worried about Dick"

[@AustynSN]

My headcanon: She's a cosmic anomaly. She's actually The Joker's daughter, but in reverse of him having several origins that change constantly due to his shifting sanity and mind, his future changes constantly too. Thus, even her parentage changes so one moment she's Joker's daughter, but the next she's Two-Faces, the next, she's Catwoman' lost little girl. Her origin is never stable because her true father is still The Joker and her past changes to match his sanity.

[@Pilgrim98]

But that would imply Joker has reality manipulation and uses it constantly without realizing, making all his origins true, instead of him just not remembering and/or making stuff up. Wich would kinda ruin the character and every story starring him to me personally.

[@nikytamayo]

Oh God, that would make her DC's Gwenpool. I sort of like GP, but one is more than enough.

[@morganrobinson8042]

@@nikytamayo Weirdly, I saw this play out in a Teen Titans Fanfic before Gwenpool was a thing, possibly even Spidergwen. But that borrowed heavily from Morrison's Doom patrol so stuff like a person being defined by being ambiguous within the metanarrative explicitly as part of their powerset is more of an inherited feature than an unfortunate editorial bug. So, like all thing in comics, nihil sub sōle novum.

[@Solitaire001]

They eventually established that she is the daughter of The Jokerster and Three-Face (Eve Dent) of Earth-3. Being shunted to another universe made her identity and mind unstable. Like with Power Girl, the Universe kept trying to make her fit.

[@AustynSN]

@@Solitaire001 Yeah, but how long until that origin is retconned (if it isn't already)?

[@doyscherr]

Duela Dent or Joker's Daughter has never really had much love. While the New 52 version was so awful she broke any story she was part of; it was good to see Joker's Daughter finally being made use of. But I still appreciate her anti-hero version from Bronze Age Teen Titans.

[@BigK13372]

Agree. Seriously I actually like how she is portrayed in the Teen Titans as it kind of makes her alternated equivalent to Harlequin (y’know that Earth 2 villainess turn anti hero who was very much into Green Lantern).

[@BigK13372]

@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk Yeah. The first being Thorn who gave birth to Jade and Obsidean. I read Infinity Inc.

[@Justforamoment0608]

The new 52 version is my favorite

[@Underworlddream]

I like the old version.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

@@BigK13372 Sounds like they could have made her HIS daughter. Or HER daughgter. Since Scott had Jade already.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Sasha:"Child of a more prominent villain, sorry Cluemaster" Me:....who?

[@AustynSN]

Cluemaster: Arthur Brown. Stephanie Brown's father. Stephanie Brown is Spoiler, was Robin then Batgirl for short whiles. She's also Tim Drake's girlfriend. She actually created The Spoiler identity to annoy her father. Explaining who she is was mostly about her because she is the only way he's really relevant.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@AustynSN damn thats LOW low prominence

[@GrayLanternPPA]

Apparently the only time he's shown up outside of comics beyond a cameo was in The Batman and that version seemingly didn't have a daughter and was wildly different from the comics.

[@dark3stknight174]

Gray Lantern I watched that in dc universe yesterday and he’s... something

[@koyinproductions9053]

Gray Lantern I’m not even sure that version could have a daughter.

[@wwbwbgohbc]

*looks over own catalog of fanfic. sees ship children everywhere. shrugs.* It's my shtick

[@tallnycboy25]

I’m obsessed with Duela. Since I was a kid. She was one of my back issue boos. Basically, as a kid, I showed up with my friends at the shop, and asked for Supergirl and Batgirl comics. The dude told me they were dead. (Batgirl was paralyzed, but I guess that meant “dead” when I was a kid.) so after some begging, the dude sent me to Teen Titans back issue box. I found Duela, Bumblebee, Tula, and Kole… bought all the issues my allowance would allow… and then when I came back a few weeks later, I found out they had all been “Fridged” too… sooooo… yeah. I still burn the flame for them all. Sorry for the Ted talk… but Duela was great.

[@HBHaga]

I'm going to show my age here and say that Joker's Daughter (specifically her Teen Titans appearances in the 1970's) was one of the characters that hooked me into comics as a young kid and I've had a soft spot for Duela ever since. She never quite caught on despite several attempts to bring her back to the fore, even Geoff Johns was talking about giving her a deep treatment before Countdown happened. The nu52 version is not one that I particularly cared for. She was yet another instance of the New52 going grimdark for no good reason and, once again, the character never found any traction.

[@HBHaga]

@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk Yeah, that's about the time I came in. #48, I think it was in my case. My cousin had the back issues and I ate those up as well.

[@alexandersmith7061]

I think it’d be cool if they brought her back to be the future Joker when Damian Wayne becomes Batman

[@skeletor4436]

Ooh that's a good idea I like it 👍👍

[@Groomsman]

Would she be too old chronologically for Terry?

[@alexandersmith7061]

Groomsman I said Damian, not Terry. Also, Terry isn’t canon

[@johndoe3011]

Here is a plot line no one wants to be made real : Have her and Damian hook-up out of costume then in costume especially if she is wearing the joker's face as a mask.

[@ryanmartin5745]

Maybe she could be a henchwoman or a fist victim when Damian reaches the Dictator Phase we saw referenced in Legion of Superheroes. They were legit scared when he popped in with Jon.

[@DuelaDent52]

Aw man, I don‘t know why but I friggin love Joker’s Daughter (at least the pre-New 52 version). I like Geoff Johns’ idea that she’s some weird multiversal anomaly who’s consciousness either shifts between dimensions or exists in every one simultaneously, which is why she’s usually confused on where she comes from (in addition to her multiple parents from her home dimension). Is that me, or does Alina in The Dark Prince Charming look suspiciously like Duela Dent? I wouldn’t be surprised if she was supposed to be a pastiche of her, given her parentage is a big plot point.

[@christopherlyons5900]

Tough to carry off, but I have thought about writing a story where she meets Bat-Mite, he says "You have a fifth-dimensional mind" and she says "Not Offended" which is her catchphrase on the short-lived CW series.

[@eladiocofresi5202]

“Ugly is the New Beautiful.” I think I found my next t shirt design. Lol For me, Joker’s Daughter was the one who was in Titans East for five minutes with Enigma. Part of me would love to see an Easter egg in a media adaptation. It could simply be two ladies in a costume party dressed as them.

[@eldergeek6077]

It would be interesting if there was a version of Joker's daughter that's tied in with "Batman Beyond" . I'd like to know who the parents of Harley's twin granddaughters are.

[@anitanielsen1061]

😮😮😮

[@MiguelGonzalez-du8de]

I personally prefer the original story, she's actually the daughter of Earth 3's Joker and Two-Face (who are heroes in that earth) and she just got lost in the main Earth, that's why she's first fighting against Batman, Robin etc, because on her original Earth, they're the villains, and after realizing she's on a different earth, she joins the heroes because she's actually good.

[@eirianstarlesschild521]

I lowkey want to steal this idea and write a fic with it

[@Acemancello]

Ah yes, looks like joker, has Harvey's name, is actually riddles daughter

[@achibrucie9862]

Two main things @Causally Comics, 1) If you don't like Duela Dent - that's because you have never read Tiny Titans (lol jk but it is awesome) 2) I think it's unfair that you glossed over the part in history of people trying to bring Duela back in the 2000s. Geoff Johns tried bringing Duela Dent back in his Teen Titans run, once when she was in the future and the other time as Titans East character. She was about to join the main team but was then killed by Paul Dini (creator of Harley Quinn) in like ... first issue in his crossover. Geoff Johns in a forum said that he was going to do something big to bring her back but it's heavily implied that he ended up dropping the entire Titans series completely because of the Countdown to Final Crisis event. That's kinda big tbh. Looks like he didn't get a say in it and didn't see the point in continuing. I'm a massive Duela Dent stan, hater of Harley Quinn (sorry), but huge lover of Paul Dini. And frankly, even as a fan of his, I think he did her dirty. I know you don't want the comparison but a lot of people do see Harley as a remade Duela. Harley's OG design by Dini is pretty similar to Harlequin's 70s design. Even her name. And that Paul Dini at the first chance killed her off. It just looks suss. We really never got to see a good long run of her to develop the character, with writers coming in to kill her or explain her away or just move on. The best rep we got was the Tiny Titans series by Franco and Art which was based on Johns run anyway. Also I ... pretty much ignore the Ann Nocenti run of Duela. I was cautiously excited to read it and then like ... she decides to eat a part of his rotting face then stitch it on. Death by character assassination lol.

[@PungiFungi]

The biggest insult to me was how after Crisis on Infinite Earths, they erased her out of the Titan’s history and continuity.

[@ecosmith7852]

You’ll have plenty of time to live in a van down by the river when you’re LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!

[@JanArrah]

I love Duela, the original. The idea of a heroine who doesn't know who her parents are and acts out accordingly is cool. Also the idea that she's from Earth-3 and being a hero is great too. Bring that back. Also, she briefly teamed up with Riddler's Daughter aka Enigma.. and we've not really gotten their heroic exploits either.

[@Estarfigam]

I learned about her via someone cosplaying as her. Someone called it gender switched steampunk of the Joker and the cosplayer said it was the Joker's Daughter.

[@joefernandez8008]

I love that every video manages to find a way to mention that Dick Grayson is thicc-er than a bowl of oatmeal.

[@nikytamayo]

"The Sisterhood of the Joker's Face." I died.

[@pwlpc]

I really liked her inclusion in Red Hood and the Outlaws, she seemed the perfect fit for this kind of team. But the Pre-New 52 version is also very enjoyable

[@potato_oni7597]

I'm the kind of person who, whenever they stumble over random obscure elements of a franchise, tries to find a way to expand on them She's clearly a throw-away character DC tried to make relevant. Wich doesn't mean that there couldn't be something to be done with her. My idea: Her being Two Face's daughter honestly would be the best way to go. He could've had her when he was still just Harvey Dent but had her put in a mental health clinic because she was already developing issues similiar to his at a very young age and he feared that this could somehow harm his career. Essentially abandoning her, wich ate away at her psyche even more wich then made her decide that she'd rather be anyones daughter but his leading to the villain identity schtick and then she could suddendly pop up at his door demanding recognition and in the end Batman essentially has to mediate to prevent something horrible. There's certainly something there one can do with that. Could be a decent two parter or annual story. Also, I kinda feel they only went with that direction for the New52 to distract readers from the crap they pulled with Harley. That outfit still haunts my dreams. How does it stay on? Come to think if it: how about you take a look at the New Guardians? It's an ambitious but ultimately stupid DC series from the late 80s about a bunch of questionable, somewhat steretypical, heroes trying to tackle serious subject matters. It's got a villain who get's powers from snorting cocaine.

[@Pilgrim98]

Your version seems interesting, i would read a story like that

[@dapotatoe7959]

That's seems so interesting, I'd love a story like that :D

[@MrQdiddy85]

I’m sorry punchline has too much of an “edgelord” vibe

[@mysryuza]

Id like to think it was the point. Maybe reflecting those edgelord fangirl OCs. I'm not saying that's what happened, but one could imagine

[@SignalWarden]

I'll be honest, I was never able to keep up with N52 Joker's Daughter. The first issue was written by Anne Nocenti and I can't think of a comic I've picked up that had worse writing. It was SO bad. Her dialog when she first finds the mask was brutal. I don't think I had ever felt embarrassed FOR a comic book before that moment.

[@Justforamoment0608]

Damn........ the N52 version is my favorite

[@SignalWarden]

@@Justforamoment0608 Sorry. :( It really wasn't the character through, it was the writing. I felt that her writing just kept declining during that period. If I recall properly her Catwoman run in that era was also terrible.

[@SpectrumPOV]

I didn't know The Joker's Daughter had such a long history. I thought she wad created in the New 52.

[@HBHaga]

Long and convoluted. There's been a push with her every decade or so that eventually just trails off.

[@guruuvy]

Yeah! Figures Toys Company even made a Mego-Style action figure of her in her 1970’s costume a year or two ago!

[@lilv3966]

Nah, her wad is old.

[@paultapner2769]

i read countdown to infinite crisis when it came out, but i'd completely forgotten she was in it

[@LaptopLarry330]

@@guruuvy If Corporate America likes the 1976 Joker's Daughter, it is common sense to bring that character back.

[@azulito5847]

THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING JOKER'S FACE I'M SCREAMING

[@thomaslindaman3788]

I grew up with the pre-Crisis Duella Dent, and I liked her as a character. Her backstory then and now is needlessly complicated. There is far more potential with her just being Two Face’s daughter than having her switch characters every so often. Still, a good character all around!

[@paulweyer4339]

My favorite version is definitely the alternate earth where she was basically raised by all of batman's rogues. That angle can lead into so many convoluted ideas of identity and role in a society that prioritized progress over self-actualization. She has so much potential but they always throw her at the wall hoping she'll stick, then remember that hitting the wall is a bad thing when writing an ongoing story...

[@artheaded1]

Ahh, the good old days with GIANT BATFAM comics! 12 year old me loved the Joker's Daughter!

[@shanejames13]

Sasha is honestly such a good host! I love whenever she uploads a video, such a joy to watch

[@JenSpinsSGP]

It’s so funny to hear “maybe it’s the future and she’s already returned” as Duela is a main character in Gotham Knights 😂

[@BlackSouLII]

Cough cough.. The cursed child is Fanfic, a mix between back to the future, Harry Potter and a drunk writer I guess. BUT... good video mate, I didnt knew the character was quite old o.O

[@athenahitchin7738]

The phrase "acknowledge keeper of DC's historical consistency" is way to humorous on levels from how it was titled as well as how fluid DC's history is.

[@johneagan4263]

Totally love this episode Sasha!! I was a huge Teen Titans fan back in the 70's and 80's and loved this character. Goofy origin, hated the "aging" angle at Donna's wedding, and thought she was best as Harlequin. Sort of liked the Earth 3 angle, but didn't know much about her since so loved the update. Great job as always!! Still hoping you might consider a history of her Titan comrade Bumblebee at some point!

[@jsimpers]

I remember reading her original incarnation in Batman Family and Teen Titans, only for her to disappear after the TT comic was discontinued. Saw her again in the New Teen Titans at Donna's wedding but was disappointed they never followed up on her. Then Technis Imperative showed her mentally unstable, forgetting her "Harlequin" identity and her claiming (at a bar) to be Doomsday's daughter. Never read the New 52 version, but I'd love to see the original return

[@davidano1]

You covered first and the third , but skipped over the second! Understandingly, the second Joker's Daughter was only a bit character in Alex Ross and Mark Waid's Kingdom Come series. How ever, I still think the second Joker's Daughter is the most visually stunning. She has a Jack-in-the-box gadget on her back with the clown having a gun! Also I've always been a big fan of Jill Thompson!

[@8mad]

Please tell me you'll now cover the Golden Age/ Earth-2 Harlequin. A villainess who eventually became Alan Scott's wife.

[@OthEdden]

I'd kinda be down for the reappearance of Duela Dent in a positive Anarchist type role and a team up with Booster Gold and Plastic Man.

[@MoesTube1]

Yup I remember Harlequin with the Teen Titans getting around on roller skates whenever I bring her up I get the "you're making that up" face.

[@zaraandrews600]

Punchline and Joker's daughter would be interesting working together during the Joker War. I hope they bring back Joker's daughter, she always seemed interesting.

[@frozenlightfilms]

Sasha, I'm still waiting for you to cosplay the characters you discuss in your videos. LOL

[@marcusbarnes2015]

Quit being a simp

[@frozenlightfilms]

Lighten up, Marcus.

[@thunderlightningbolt6597]

@Marcus Barnes Lighten up man

[@leonardomapache]

A criminal's daughter is fanfic-y. *Rat catcher 2 suspiciously looking to the left...*

[@MsAlyssaB1]

They really had to push the narrative that being married was the only way to have kids in the 70's? If anything a character like Duela would make a lot more sense being an illegitimate child, a child with 2 parents would have a family watching them even if the father's a villain.

[@Tekkaman1994]

Exactly! Even if she actually was Joker's daughter, she could be illegitimate. Joker could have impregnated some woman and not given a damn about the the kid after she was born.

[@nicholascorrin4648]

Ohhhh Duela, how do I love thee!!!:) great fan file as always!!

[@user-dm9jc4ug3c]

If they ever want to bring Joker’s daughter back in to the comics again. I hope it’s Lucy form the injustice series. I want to know more about her and see how Oliver and Diana have impacted her.

[@anthonywheeler2082]

It's fascinating how this idea keeps evolving over time. I hope they find an idea for it that really sticks.

[@LeeJuniper]

I honestly really enjoyed Duela Dent Earth-3. The final retcon that made her a slider with memories from other realities worked well with her situation of not really knowing who's daughter she was. Her final appearence in Countdown didn't feel good to me. Because there were still ideas to be had with her. I also wanted her to rejoin the Titans not gonna lie. -- Her original appearence from back duringt he original Teen Titans run was also great. I loved how she was basically pranking Robin to prove her worth as a superhero. It was a fun and silly read befitting the time. I also think it is awful that she gets compared to Harley and Punchline seeing as Duela Dent Earth-3 at least is a very different character in her own right with a different type of legacy. -- I do not like Earth-1 Duela Dent. Which is what I am gonna assume the new 52 incarnation is. Dark for dark's sake is what she feels like. She also feels like she exists because Harley was popular and they wanted more of that type of character. -- Maybe I could have liked the character maybe. But when you couple the flaws I don't like with the fact that her existence basicallly solidifies that Earth-3 Duela is probably gone for good with no more potential storytelling about her and Talon, The Jokester and Enigma all from Earth-3. And you get a biased view that wants to get rid of the character from when it hits the table and therefore deffinitely can't look past the flaws of the character nor forgive them. -- The saddest part is that an Earth-1 Duela is a brilliant Idea. Putting aside how unimagnative Harley Vs Joker's Daughter/Puncline truly is for the whole "Oh different clown lady vs the popular one" there is potential in pitting Earth-3 Duela Dent who was a hero at heart. against Earth-1 Duela Dent who was fucked up period.

[@Rei-Rei]

I really liked the original Duela Dent and was extremely pissed when they gave her the standard "D-list throwaway killing to big up the villain in the 1st issue of an event comic". But that's a vile and lazy trope anyway. Didn't like the new 52 version. There's actually a fascinating character story in there about the nature of identity in a world where everyone wears masks but nobody has ever put the time in to dig into it. Sad that you didn't include the awesome steampunk version, but happy that you did a video on her at all. You got a new subscriber. :3

[@lrdiaz2768]

I present to you the best fight ever: Harley Quinn vs Punchline vs Joker's Daughter

[@huwmordecai6209]

Thank you for this. There's lots of odd stuff about the original Titans (pre Wolfman/Perez); I'd love to hear more about them.

[@BigK13372]

Pretty much a totally radical super hero group who have fought in their appearance have dealt with a colonial weirdo who can summon tornadoes (eventually he became a demon or some shit), a fashion designer/hipster who opperates a counterfeit clothing ring, some dude who likes muscle cars running a car thief ring, a teenager who forced to commit crime under an insect gimmick (possible take that to Spider-Man), aliens from Dimension X . . . no seriously, Doctor Light, an interdimensional being of pure evil that mind control the Justice League, and other stuff nobody knows about because its notbas memorable as the Wolfman comics.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

I was only ever aware of the Post-Crisis version of Duela Dent and even then barely. A bit sad that after 50+ years DC still clearly has no idea what to do with the character yet won't let her rest. The New 52 version sounds terrible too.

[@Spike-Prime]

"I'm low-key worried about Dick." We all are...

[@chazzanovatron]

they're making new charachters while having a ton of old ones just sitting around and collecting dust.

[@doro626]

See this is why I think Sasha is the Bee's Knee's. I don't even read DC comics, but she goes so in depth.

[@TazmaDevil]

I remember really wanting to see more of Duela before the New 52, seemed like she could be a lot of fun and I really liked her look in Countdown. Then I saw the direction they went in New 52 and thought "Never mind".

[@SolidSpadesIsANerd]

I think this newest angle for Duela is strong from a motivation and character design perspective. I always thought she would be a strong character for Jason's outlaws team and the version of her in Nightwing is a good start. However they really should go back to her original story. I think the idea she is constantly trying to get Harvey's attention but also refuses to say she's his kid is interesting. The idea that he should just know her, regardless of the costume. Have her be Catgirl again. Have her mirror everyone BUT Harvey and have it be a question as to why. Reveal that the parents she talks about in those costumes were always Harvey and Gilda.

[@supermedafighter]

You know I suffered through the Ric Grayson era but I must have blanked some of it out because I had completely forgotten that she was in the nightwing series until this vid.

[@wildermidnight]

Always excited to see one of my favorite under rated and obscure characters get a little spotlight. I loved the harlequin when i was a little kid. All the d list Titans from their silver and bonze age days. You skipped over her "Zero Hour origin" which would have had her as a member of a Team Titans team sent back in time to murder Donna Troy before she could give birth to her mad god son Lord Chaos only to end up in the wrong time with jumbled memories, was institutionalized, escaped and then went on to stalk Robin and join the Teen Titans. None of this actually happened and her return was only hinted at in an imaginary "Next Issue" blurb at the end of the Team Titans last issue letter column. I hated the Team Titan comic and concept but those last few issues were fun. the new 52 version has just got to go.

[@riftwytch]

I remember the original version from the 70's; I like her backstory better than the retcons you mentioned. I seem to recall that DC had a much earlier character named Harlequin; I always thought her name was the inspiration for Harley Quinn's name.

[@magitek09]

I think I like her being a hero more... Also, love her hero design, so stylish

[@ReallyCoolSite]

Batman Family, World’s Finest, I miss those “Giant” issues. Back in the day, a couple of those, a bag of Lays chips and a big Gulp made 9 year old me’s weekend.

[@jacobgroetsch7853]

You have no idea how long I've wanted this. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

[@rc5989]

Wow DC is complicated! Thanks for sorting it all out Casually Comics.

[@toddnolastname4485]

When they said that Harley Quinn come from a cartoon show, I said, but I remember Harlequin from way back. I was in high school when the Titans relaunched as New Teen Titans. Now that you mention it, I wonder why the retconned her to be so much older in the wedding. Why was Bruce at Donna's wedding? By the way, "why didn't you adopt me" came up because Bruce had or was adopting Jason because of Nocturna at that time.

[@CandyCoated08]

I knew of her incarnation in the 70s and New 52, but you really helped flesh it all out with this video. Preesh, girl!

[@househeadericmdhousehead9118]

Your knowledge and ability to entertain is FANtastic. Really enjoyed this one about good ole Duela Dent.

[@Psycopathicus]

I think Duela Dent would be much better without the Joker connection for the moment. She's got too much competition in the 'Joker girl' department, and anyway, the name's a lie; no version of her has actually been 'the Joker's Daughter', and in her original incarnation, she wound up dropping the name pretty fast. I think she should go back to her old role as 'slightly looney superhero'; make her Harvey's daughter again, and emphasize THAT connection somehow. Maybe make her a hero obsessed by chance instead of a villain; that would be an interesting twist.

[@ragabashmoon1551]

Okay pausing to say I WANT THAT HARLEY QUINN PHOTO BEHIND YOU. Okay returning to video. (Found out what that actually is from your video on Harleen, ordered it on Amazon and it will arrive tomorrow!

[@8mad]

When it comes to New 52 version of the Joker's Daughter. I prefer what they did with her in Bombshells. I do kind of prefer the more heroic version. Though I do like the both.

[@8mad]

@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk 100% Like I think it was Batman Eternal or Batman & Robin Eternal where they teased taking her in a magical direction. But, again Bombshell was just a better execution of that in general. Love Bombshells so much.

[@Justforamoment0608]

Elizabeth Moore the N52 version was my favorite

[@johnmattson8280]

You did sorta tease on it but there was a conclusion plan for the original Duela Dent that was supposed to play out in Team Titans. But that book tanked and was canceled just before that story arc could happen. The writers even talked the plan somewhere. It sounded bonkers and fun.

[@PsychoStreak]

Lives in a van by the river you see... Every time I hear that reference now it's to the tune of the Spongebob intro. Worst part is it syncs up well with the SNL skit specifically the arm motion. And now Joker's Daughter fits in too.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I kinda wanna see Two Face go after the Joker for "stealing" his kid

[@j.thekidcrome4431]

Your breakdown of comics are flawless thanks

[@xhielorei]

I never knew about the pre crisis duela, and I like it, she is pure chaotic good energy, like an inverse Harley, and the whole am I who I say I am? Thing makes me lover her more, she could be re imagined so easily and even add her some kind of meta awareness.

[@adrinocarvalo]

I actually LOVED Duela Dent and Dick's adventures and overall just her from that time. I hated what was done to her on the wedding forward :(

[@adivorcee2357]

"in issue 48 she would change her name to Harlequin" *Molly Mayne has entered the chat*

[@abbycollins4820]

I wish they explored Duela being Harvey’s daughter more.

[@kyleketron6418]

I always felt that they deliberately made her confusing because they want her to be mysterious.

[@grayalien48]

Bold to call it the "Giant Batman family" before you even introduce Jason Todd, or any of the others to the narrative.

[@grayalien48]

@@ooneybird27 I just meant him as the second Robin, I personally don't love the character. I just meant that at that point it was basically just Dick, Barbra, and that at the moment, there literally is a giant batfam

[@0127sasuke]

@@grayalien48 well the term batman family started when it was bruce, dick, kathy & Betty Kane, plus alfred, ace the bathound and batmite. That plus "Wonder Woman Family" were in response to "seduction of the innocent" which sasha has talked about on a few occasions

[@TheInvisibleSensei108]

Love this channel! Its a triple shot caffeine hit of fun and creativity!

[@jimgillespie6109]

I've been binging a bunch of your videos, mostly Batman-related the last few days. When you review the more recent events of Batman continuity, I have to admit that I'm glad I no longer collect. I'm not sure anyone at DC knows what they're doing or how special their original characters are. As for Duela, the only appearance of hers that I like was the one at the wedding. I may not be a fan of Marv Wolfman's writing, but at least he realized that Duela was too old to have been Harvey Dent's child.

[@lordseven1152]

Thanks for the info. First time hearing about her was today because I was looking into Batwing

[@bartlettmeeks]

THANK YOU! When I was a kid I found a teen titan comic with harlequin and had no idea who she was! ( I was a kid in the 70s). She popped up for, like 3 panels and was never mentioned again. It's been driving me mad for... 40 + years?! Now I don't have to be driven to a life of super villain- ness.

[@justicierodelaliga]

Yes, knew of the character. Now, that´s a character that should have gone the Pre Crisis route where she was actually Two Face´s daughter and then come with a reason to why she made the claim of Joker´s Daughter. Now, please, please, do a video on one of my favorite obscure characters: The Creeper (as he´s the last Joker related character to do a video of). More so, I´m interested into why Steve Ditko came with the idea of the character and why DC never decides if they want to make him a hero or a villain.

[@Libertyfudge]

Thank you! I asked for this a while ago and am happy we finally got it!

[@BlueEXEVideos]

Nothing has made me realize how fast the last year and a half have past by like when you brought up punchline. "What? She knows about punchline? She was only announced a few months a.... oh no."