The Dark Knight scene where Alfred explains 'The Joker' | MOVIES

Scene from the Batman movie 'The Dark Knight' in which Alfred, Bruce Wayne's assistant/butler, explains 'The Joker'.

[@SkyNet-ty1tm]

Alfred dropping extreme knowledge and wisdom on Bruce

[@davidgraham8058]

And it’s absolutely true.

[@cryptofacts4u]

Alfred revealing he was the bad guy but doesn't realize it

[@bondjamesbond6441]

We don't have a batman in reality but a lots of jokers out there

[@Joecbg100]

Most in government unfortunately. I hate it. Both sides are the villians. No Batman, unfortunately

[@BlackFlightNY]

YOU can be the Batman if you want, it depends, how much do you like your parents?😂🤣 “Sacrifices must be made”😂

[@FocusAG]

@@Joecbg100 In my country we have in a rising party a man who fits perfectly in this profile. He's in the government, started 5 years ago a right-wing extremist party which is now the third most voted party in the country and most of his speech feels like the right thing to do to everybody. The only thing that still keeps him from gain more power is that a few can see right through him the nature of his intentions, and that is what keeps him at bay. And he is a byproduct of years of a rotting political system. Europe at the moment is like this.

[@sharkapuppet]

⁠@@BlackFlightNYwarrior shit niffers couldn’t understand

[@ymb7873]

After heath ledger as the joker, the best casting decision was Michael caine as Alfred, like it’s fucking perfect.

[@marc-antoinemarcoux697]

all the cast is top notch.

[@malekithsilverheart2357]

I love this scene. Bruce actually PAYS ATTENTION bc he respects Alfred and his opinion. That slight change in his face to true curiosity really sells it. Now he’s intrigued, this is not something he expected in the story. And to later when he asks Alfred what happened to the bandit, he was truly thinking about how to deal with the situation and never forgot Alfred’s council. Just a masterwork from both actors, director, and story writers

[@MbusoMadeIt]

"Well he thought it was good sport" hits hard.

[@cryptofacts4u]

not being able to imagine why someone would want to stop your bribery payments beyond the sport of it is a mark of a man who hasn't realized he was the baddy

[@MbusoMadeIt]

@@cryptofacts4u what a profound take never looked at it from the other side. You just schooled me thank you Sir.

[@nightmar4056]

What did he mean by that

[@cryptofacts4u]

@@nightmar4056 Alfred was the bad guy in his own story, and doesn't even realize it

[@Greed70]

@@cryptofacts4u maybe in the end, when he burned down the forest he realized what side he was on.

[@Tabish29]

This was the best part of the film. Alfred respects and gets the Joker more than Bruce does. Experience.

[@cryptofacts4u]

Alfred doesn't get the joker or the thief's motivation. Why would you stop bribery payments to local officials? To stop corruption. Why would you dump the jewels? Because you are motivated by ideals not gain Alfred was the bad guy

[@Tabish29]

@cryptofacts4u I think most people who read what you wrote won't get it except the part where the thief wasn't looking for gain in profits. That was evident.

[@TWOCRUNK4U]

worst Alfred ever tho I prefer my Alfred not gay for a boy he raised

[@Tabish29]

@@TWOCRUNK4U yea. I see. I see an ignoramus.

[@TWOCRUNK4U]

@@Tabish29 says the one who likes a groomer Alfred. weirdo

[@meangreen3038]

God DAMN I love this part probably one of the best parts

[@dennisrodriguez9004]

Def best part. Wanting to watch the world burn was such a great quote

[@cblchildrenspython]

Great dialogue summing up the Joker....adds realism to this movie

[@rieJW]

I love how at 0:09, Alfred explains the joker like he’s some supernatural force. As though the mob made a deal they shouldn’t have in their desperation and brought something they couldn’t comprehend

[@gedbeat15]

Sir Michael Caine is THE best Alfred

[@alexmoonwalk8647]

Jack Bannon solos

[@comicnerd1186]

Everyone talks about how cool Batman is, but nobody talks about how much wise and loyal Alfred is.

[@AssassinKreed1016]

Right up there with the rocky speech

[@austindotson5265]

Fun fact bought bullied reasoned or negotiated with are things the one person or another tried to do to the joker in the movie

[@spencerbowden2979]

The mafia tried to buy him Batman tried to bully him The police tried to negotiate with him The city tried to reason with him And none of it worked.

[@jeffreyjackson5229]

In other words, the Joker is doing it simply to entertain himself either by his actions or their reactions.

[@cryptofacts4u]

That is the conclusion of Alfred. But is it correct? Think about the story Alfred told, who's the good guy in the story? Alfred, the British soldier transporting bribery payments to local Chiefs to get them to do things that are against the best interests of their people? Or the villager that stole the bribery payments not for profit but to stop corruption? The issue is we really like Alfred and Batman and usually see things from their point of view and so we are primed to think of them as the good guys. But this story reveals that Alfred was the bad guy, did not realize he was a bad guy, and because he didn't realize he was the bad guy could not fathom Why the thief would do what he did, so he came up with a conclusion that made sense to him even though it's not accurate

[@user-zl4ce3cq1w]

Alfred sounds like he has had an interesting life.

[@quadnodsarelife]

He did though. Hes crazy in a way he's killed alot of people he wasnt just a butler but personal security for the Wayne's before they died. Hes former SAS, and protected the queen. Hes the only bat family member that is allow to kill and use guns no one questions it

[@kaniel_outis1]

His childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring they’d make meat helmets. Pretty standard.

[@TysonEmmy]

He is British SAS Intellgience Officer , what do you expect

[@mcs-bl6sg]

I still consider this the definitive description of the Joker. Like, in just a few chilling sentences here, Michael Caine's Alfred tells the audience everything they need to know about the character, not just Heath Ledger's portrayal in this movie.

[@601marcusable]

alfred explained the joker very well, bruce has yet learned about his foe because it's the chaos he lives for!

[@masonlyons5199]

this is happening right now

[@smackdaddy9802]

Best chills of the film

[@ahmaranwar1488]

We need an origin mini series of alfred with the main villain as the jewel thief

[@ipaintstuff4884]

The villain should be the tangerine.

[@stevengreenstock6095]

Perfect explanation of how dictators rise to power

[@alliwishis_2]

No dictators are just more or less control freaks More like bain less like Joker

[@budzterr6186]

This is the greatest explanation of the Joker there is. This scene captures it all.

[@cryptofacts4u]

Except it doesn't.... What's the story? British soldier transports bribery payments to local leaders. Local thief intercepts bribery payments Local thief does not keep the Gregory payments showing that their motivation is not greed. British soldiers cannot catch the thief that is stopping their bribery payments from reaching they intended target So British soldiers burn down the entire forest. British soldier then concludes that some people just want to watch the world burn because they can't fathom that they are in fact the bad guy

[@NAVEENSINGH-km1fb]

Legend says Micheal Cain was the bandit.. Batman before Batman

[@cheyennealvis8284]

Therein lies the difference between evil and insanity of chaos

[@pokhrajalley4182]

So nicely explained

[@ligarrajesh]

Joker was always a step ahead

[@texasplayboy23]

It’s possible to have better Batmen, but we will never have a better Alfred (or Joker)

[@secundus1927]

While it is being used in a different context here, that line about in their desperation they turned to man they don’t understand seems to sum up American politics right now.

[@trader573]

This, the idea of the entire movie in one scene... 👍🏽💯💯

[@NopeKush]

Peeled grape microwave diamonds

[@classiccorporation5278]

Best line of all 3 movies. 🤨💯

[@Josue-1203noon]

💌📜✨🕯️⏳🪑🎞️🎬🎥🖤⚡☄️_Awesome scene. Brilliant film... Unparalleled. Great work. 🌖🪶🦇 thank you cast & crew / families♥️friends

[@richmondvand147]

one of my fave scenes

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

Finishing with Trump was funny (reminded me of the deepfake video 😂)

[@DTylerFultzVA]

Alfred really hits that nail on the head. Evil people don’t always need a motivation or a tragic history to justify their actions. Somewhere, someone kicked a puppy and thought to themselves “that felt good”, and that was all the reason they needed. Some men perform acts of evil “JUST. BECAUSE. THEY CAN.”

[@cryptofacts4u]

100% right! Alfred didn't need a tragic backstory in order to burn down an entire forest nor did he need a tragic motivation in order to transport bribery payments to local leaders Some men do evil things just because they're ordered to. It's not that they want to watch the world burn it's that they will burn the world down as long as they're told to by someone above them.... Just like Alfred did And by the way yes Alfred is the bad guy in that story, and what's worse is it doesn't even realize decades later that he was the bad guy

[@0ldMatty2]

Did anyone else hear this and go …Hell yeah

[@koukoumba5143]

I won't be surprised if This movie has become a study case in some prestigious universities

[@ryanm666]

Bale is by far the best on screen Bruce Wayne IMO.

[@Gorkhali_01]

That's a lot of wisdom for 100 seconds

[@cryptofacts4u]

Is the wisdom that British soldiers transporting bribery payments is bad? Or is the wisdom that someone trying to stop those bribery payments is crazy person that just wants to watch the world burn?

[@Gorkhali_01]

@@cryptofacts4u Second

[@addytkr1657]

Server pitchs a mot sentence. Not for this problem but a frame where every problem could be solved. ////It's why it's called a pitch

[@lenart5417]

The second best Alfred.

[@Chemical_Argentum]

Start of the movie: "One man or the entire mob, he can wait" End of the movie: "I gotta find this man, Lucious" Nolan did an awesome job of setting up the Joker! Making him go from a nobody to worst of them all! Alfred was the only one who never underestimated him

[@thefallenshallrise3233]

this is a speech about the grand spectrum of politicians ,war profiteers and oligarchs who need to hear this .and then afterwards need to indicated and punished for the crimes against humanity .

[@epicgamerytvideos2692]

man exposed himself as the clown prince of crime

[@meangreen3038]

Honestly we all have alil joker in all of us!!!

[@randyforney8775]

They shoulda just done Bale with Cavill, coulda launced Justice League wayyy sooner.

[@Paulman2]

And thus, "size of a tangerine" was born. /r/NolanBatmanMemes

[@mattmoore1630]

Odd to end with a clown 🤡

[@TheRock1.0]

Who else is here from Chanakya Dialogues?

[@babayega3987]

Had watched this b4 the dialogues but yup that vedio refreshed it

[@michaelcarr1849]

Living in a crazy country can cause a person to go 4-8 centillion times crazy.

[@Incognito_097]

Im from burma🇲🇲 :)

[@x0xNOVAx0x]

The world needs a factory reset.

[@elcallematon8266]

My mum was friends with H.L family in western Australia when they were little they'd seen RED DOG, WOLF CREEK and other trippy stuff like the min min light. Y SO SERIOUS 🤡🤑

[@Josue-1203noon]

♥️✨📜⏳

[@Alwaysdisciplined100]

No one is not going to act like this video did not end with trump talking?

[@miguelangelquinteropineros656]

1:17

[@IntegralReTournamentFirmwareIn]

Endure

[@cryptofacts4u]

Alfred was the bad guy in that story 😵 And he doesn't even realize it This explains the joker is synonymous with a thief who stopped bribery and corruption.

[@danielblair4413]

The Joker is the one that wants to watch the world burn, so how is he NOT the bad guy?

[@cryptofacts4u]

@@danielblair4413 think about Alfred's story. If in the story Alfred is Batman and the joker is the thief Alfred is the one who burned the forest down. The thief is the one that intercepted bribery payments, preventing corruption. Alfred doesn't realize that he was the bad guy in that story, he was the one delivering bribery payments from the British government to tribal leaders. He was a courier for corruption. The thief prevented the corruption by stealing the bribery payments, and we know it wasn't for personal gain because he threw the jewels away. Alfred looking at these events cannot understand since he's the good guy, why someone would steal those jewels unless it was for personal gain. The only thing his mind can conceive of is that some people just must want to do bad things because hurdur "stealing is bad" And just like the thief in the story we see joker burning all that money, showing that he didn't rob that bank, nor did he rob the mob, for personal gain. In the movie, the Jokers actions, the ones that are highly planned, lead to the mob being broken penniless and in jail, the Batman no longer prowling the streets, which if you rewatch the movies it's mentioned in the first and the second that Batman has caused an escalation in the severity of crime and criminals. The dark Knight rises opens with a lowly drug dealer with multiple machine guns, that's excessive.... Why? Because of the Batman. With Batman gone, The mob kaput, and all of the corrupt cops identified and killed or taken out, The third movie opens with 7 years gone by, and we see that Gotham has been peaceful all that time If you're Burmese, and the British are trying to bribe your local leaders so that they'll do what the British want rather than what you the local Burmese people want, can you agree that we would both look at that as bad, and the soldiers delivering the bribery payments, wouldn't be what we as Burmese people would describe as the good guys... Cuz usually when the British Empire back then was giving bribery payments to local leaders, it was to do things that the people would find unpopular, that's why you bribed the people in charge. I love Alfred, and it doesn't hurt me at all to know that he did bad things when he was younger, still love him

[@obviouspseudonym9345]

​@@danielblair4413 The Joker rooted out all the corrupt officials and nearly wiped out organized crime in Gotham (aside from his own). The Joker pushed Batman, an unlawful vigilante to kill Harvey Dent without people knowing he became Two Face. This immortalized and martyred the legal methods of handling crime, Harvey's way, and condemned Batman's methods of fighting crime, the illegal way. Joker's actions directly lead to the passing of the Dent Act, a monumental tool in Gotham's fight against the mob, while simultaneously uniting the city and turning the population against Batman, forcing an illegal vigilante to retire. Joker did more to rid Gotham of crime in a few days than what Batman did in years. Joker is one of the causes of Gordon's promotion, which is a major turning point in the GCPD. Listen to Alfred's story again. He's a mercenary in Burma, fighting for a corrupt government that is buying off local tribe leaders with bribes. The bandit is taking that money away from the government and handing it out to the people. Not out of a desire to watch the world burn, but out of rebellion against corruption.

[@cryptofacts4u]

@@danielblair4413 he burned all the mobs money. Got rid of all the corrupt cops. And got the Batman to retire since he was causing criminals to escalate violence. Meanwhile you got an old British guy that was delivering bribery payments for his government to local leaders in Burma who can't possibly imagine why anyone would want to stop the bribery payments unless it was greed. The same British officer that literally is the one that burned down the forest

[@danielblair4413]

@@cryptofacts4u says: *he burned all the mobs money.* Correction...The Joker only burned his half of the mob's money. *Got rid of all the corrupt cops.* Harvey Dent/Two Face did that not the Joker. *And got the Batman to retire since he was causing criminals to escalate violence.* Batman retiring was not a good thing. The Joker killed innocent people including Racheal and that alone made him the bad guy.

[@jghifiversveiws8729]

Apparently refusing to yield to the British empires attempt at bribing and subjugating you and your people is somehow illogical and unreasonable (in the eyes of Alfred at least).

[@Definitelylnterested]

And you are malicious troll who wants to provoke some kind of reaction over one scene in, admittedly, brilliant movie. Do the rest of the world a favor and cut yourself out of internet. And, you are reported. Have a good day ! 🤣

[@Thedarkknight2244]

A man standing up to the British empire is someone who is trying to subvert society for ideological reasons. That is what the Joker does stand for. The Joker stands for the idea that we all pretend to be civilized, until something makes us lose our mind, and that we are full of inherent social contradictions. Batman also doesn't want anything logical. Batman wants to simply fix the world, where the joker wants to see it burn, and the bandit wanted the British empire to burn. At one time, the British empire was seen as the mainstream of a normal society, as we see our society today, and it was full of regular people like you and me. You could say the joker sees our social institutions as something as laughably just as the intuitions within the empire.

[@Kacpa2]

What attempt of british empire? They were working as mercenaries, for Burmese government after it had its independence, i doubt they would work for military dictatorship that replaced it in 1969. Even if this man had some intentiona, all he did was ruin attempts at unifying thr country just for his oetty narrowminded defiance for sake of it, while weakened burmese state fell to a military coup some time late, so yea nice fucking job he did right there, burma is under military rule ever since, amazing.

[@cryptofacts4u]

💯 He's the bad guy. But he speaks so kindly and confidently, and is a character we trust so the cognitive dissonance works against realizing it at first

[@michaelsouslin891]

The joker is the kind of person we all hope we could b he lives his life doing what he wants not for the money or the fame but bc he just loves what he does even if it's bad at least he is just honest to himself and the world about who he is he doesnt compromise for anything

[@Definitelylnterested]

Joker is THE murderer, true mad dog. You know what we do with mad dogs? *We PUT THEM DOWN* .

[@michaelsouslin891]

@@Definitelylnterested and that's how it should b without the bad ppl what would the good ppl do other then catch criminals 🤔

[@goji-0045]

I like how alfred refers to the thief as the guy who wants to watch the whole world burn, while he was the one who burned the forrest to catch the thief And that thief was giving it back to the tribes peaps, who originally owned it

[@Raeinok]

That was my thought, seemed like the bandit was fighting a repressive government.

[@superrugby2]

I think the allegory was that HE (the bandit) was ambushing and killing just for the thrill. And to finally stop him they had to burn it all down, he no longer had anywhere to hide. But they had to compromise a part of their souls to do it., he was that bad. A sacrifice of self was necessary. Bruce and Luscious had to use a very intrusive tech to find the joker at all cost (burning down the forest). Luscious even said "This is wrong". But Luscious trusted Bruce to destroy it after it was no longer needed, and Bruce did. But! unlike the peoples faith in Dent. Harvey still turned evil. But the people still deserved to have their faith rewarded. The truth wasn't good enough. People believed in Dent so much that it would have torn the city apart if his crimes came out. So they lied. The citizens of Gotham didn't blow each other up, on the boats. But the truth of what Harvey did may have changed that. Their faith wouldn't have been rewarded. If Bruce took the villain role though, as in killing Dent. It gave Gotham something to believe in. It rewarded their faith. It created a martyr.

[@cryptofacts4u]

​@@superrugby2I think the allegory was that Alfred was making bribery payments, and was the bad guy. The thief was the good guy, and was solely motivated by a desire to stop corruption. In both cases, Alfred and Bruce, they fail to understand their own actions negative outcomes (bribes are bad for the people and Batemans existence increased crime) and failed to understand the thief working against them as anything other than a madman

[@JDog2656]

⁠​⁠@@superrugby2except in the end the truth came out and everything still fell apart. To build on that lie was to set themselves up for failure. I fully understand the position they were and I don’t blame them for it; but their mistake was putting their faith in one man, who is as fallible as anyone. The point of Batman was to encourage more people to step up and be better. One man can’t tie it all together, but he can inspire others to do the same

[@johnuram9207]

By who? A bandit?

[@-cvq]

a tangerine

[@tigermacc8850]

The bathroom break scene

[@crocodileguy4319]

Brainrotted statement

[@dat078912reppa]

This is exactly what Elon Musk is doing with Twitter

[@Fnelrbnef]

Uuh. Being Batman? Agreed.

[@darthstryfe4430]

Money might be logical for you Mr. Alfred in the "already established" societies, whereas, all societies are emergent not established.

[@cooldrop02]

My thoughts exactly. Alfred applied his cultures values onto this man he never met nor spoke to, and made it assumption about the values of this stranger. All based on the fact that he did not set value on stones that were just rocks to him. Alfred didn't even say what else that person possibly robbed them of. A British man in Burma working for " the local government" has so many implications my young, feeble, uneducated mind at the time did not catch it.

[@darthstryfe4430]

@@cooldrop02 Exactly... The world can live also without money, without prejudice, bigotry and the infectious society of today.

[@authentic_101]

It is for most people, brother. That's what he clearly stated.

[@zikiz1l1r19]

hola

[@Ann-bg4ky]

Ya, okay.. . We got shorted on KZbin, so we're revenging on people on KZbin.. . Eyelid flutter.. . If KZbin showed slutty arbitrary gigolo love sings t me ten years ago, well just slamming KZbin.. . KZbin can't be uninstalled from phone... .. Decent apps are uninstallable.. . So me getting new phone.. .. Maybe tizen or something.. . . Sorry, crisbal.. . Very sorry we had to meet this way.. .

[@TheDissident]

The Trump speech at the end XD

[@swanhtetaung10]

Burma

[@Dabhach1]

Who knew Alfred was a Republican?

[@TWOCRUNK4U]

THE WORST ALFRED EVERRRRRR

[@michaelshelton7196]

You are drunk

[@phatdawg69]

“Some men just want to watch the world burn……” 💯🩸