The Dowager Countess VS. Lady Rose | Downton Abbey

The Dowager Countess uses her wit and intuition to discover Lady Roses secret!
Clip From: Series 3 Episode 8: Matthew and Mary are keeping important secrets from each other. Carson must decide what to do with Thomas, whose future employment at Downton rests in his hands. A visit from Violet's great-niece could have other implications after things are learned concerning her in London. Everyone is very pleased at the prospect of the upcoming village cricket match, especially Robert, who shows everyone an unexpected competitive side to his nature.
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The costume drama series, Downton Abbey, written and created by Oscar-winning writer Julian Fellowes, stars Academy Award-winner Maggie Smith as a Dowager Countess of an Edwardian English country house in 1912. The series portrays the lives of the Crawley family and the servants who work for them, in a time before the last vestige of a century’s old tradition were stripped away by World War and the modern age. The all-star cast also includes Hugh Bonneville and Elizabeth McGovern.
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[@m.layfette6249]

"What did she expect carrying on with a married man as if her home was in a tree." 🔥🕶️

[@querellenono2683]

LOL, Rose was trying to be a hoochie, how progressive of her 😂😂😂😂, but Grandmama put her brakes on

[@sherrysellers4136]

I laugh at this line no matter how many times I hear it. There's just something in the way that it's delivered

[@lemorab1]

@@querellenono2683 Thank God for Grandma! Remember, in those days, Rose had to protect her reputation in order to catch a husband. Also, there was no reliable cure for venereal disease.

[@anayadegani626]

That man said he was getting a divorce

[@m.layfette6249]

@@anayadegani626 He told Lady Rose he would get a divorce, but that was far from the truth.

[@Happyheretic2308]

“Carrying on with a married man, as if her home were in a tree” - one of my favourite lines in the whole thing!

[@28105wsking]

You see that is just the problem. Everyone acts shocked and scolds her, but no one sits down and talks to her and teaches her about how to meet, date, and choose men. Matthew of all people would be so helpful in discussing with her the varying motives of men and how to identify them and how to handle herself socially in difficult situations. She needs friendship and guidance and information, as well as a good scolding!

[@zaliron]

He did try to teach her that in a rushed way when they encountered her in the dance hall. I'd like to assume that afterwards he'd have gone into more detail.

[@user1029xspl8dy]

I remember Matthew did provide some education on that when they were in the club, and to be fair most families do a horrible job of that even today. Rose was honestly incredibly lucky; other than the married man, every one of her love interests have been nothing but kind and sincere, and she ended up with a wonderful man.

[@m.c.9419]

I think it boils down to respect. They didnt really think much of her before this so why bother trying to teach her something she should have already been taught? It's easier to scold than sit down with someone and have a heart to heart and you'd only make that much effort for someone you actually respect.

[@MandieTerrier]

I think after she moved to Downton Cora and Mary guided her

[@renaissanceman165]

@@user1029xspl8dy Yes! True. Though, it took Lady Edith a while, due to various reasons, and distractions, but she ended up better than everyone, as far as aristocratic title, and position. Rose was a beautiful girl with a great, bubbly personality. Check it Out! Ciao!!!

[@yvonnetomenga5726]

I had forgotten this scene where Violet is in the stairwell as Rose & Edith talk. Priceless!

[@m.layfette6249]

"One day you'll be older and out of our power." "But not yet." Nothing gets past the Dowager Countess. Absolutely nothing.

[@carlozabbia1157]

I would love to be under the Dowager Countess"s power. She doesn't even know what a weekend is....

[@patriciajrs46]

The Dowager always had the best lines and facial expressions, voice articulations to match. It was great.

[@kenziecullen4434]

Rose was such a peach when she lived at Downton that I forgot she was a bit of a brat in the beginning… I blame Susan!

[@leahchariandy2060]

When I'm an old lady I hope to be like Violet

[@amritamukherjee3113]

So do I, Maggie Smith is outstanding and bewildering,who has made my day.

[@Star841]

My new follow-up for places I turn down, "oh no, no. It's too hot and dusty."

[@lemorab1]

Rosamund Painswicke has never been the brightest crayon in the box. Remember her disastrous advice to Mary about putting Matthew off, and the fortune hunting cad (who was banging her maid) that Rosamund almost married. She has exquisite taste in clothes and interior decorating, but that's about it.

[@KarthiKeyan-zu2bx]

I completely agree! Violet and mary were the smartest!

[@MarkT1700]

Not to mention how she handled the Marigold situation. Total mess.

[@samanthasmith61]

who do you think she would left her entire wealth too? sybil's kid? mary? edith? charity?

[@KarthiKeyan-zu2bx]

@@samanthasmith61 marigold

[@samanthasmith61]

@@KarthiKeyan-zu2bx then edith? marigold is in edith's care and edith would outlive her aunt. so who would get it, i think she will divide it among equally but more for the improvished grand niece. but you can't divide her grand london house, that would probably go to marigold seeing sybil has a villa

[@coffeebean8790]

I thought Rose was annoying in her first appearance, but she grew on me.

[@tomb7942]

Never play poker with the Dowager.

[@medusagorgon8432]

That scene of her at the top of the stairs suddenly reminded me of the older Wendy in the movie "Hook"! How bizarre.😅 I do feel bad for Rose. A steady hand without the dramatics would have worked wonders. But of course it all worked out in the end.

[@Xerxes2005]

Well, it was her...

[@harringt100]

By odd coincidence that scene just came up in my feed. I'd forgotten Maggie Smith was in Hook.

[@ladyinred3735]

Oh how I miss Matthew...

[@kerriethompson2073]

He was such a good big brother to all of the Crowley sisters and Rose. Mary didn’t deserve him!

[@mariasanchezlopez592]

Preciosa serie 👌 👏

[@2009grifin1]

The dowager countess is much wiser than all of you put together.

[@jd-no7rw]

Well, she did have the experience with dalliances with married men during her life, so she likely knew how to stave off a scandal.

[@heinmadsen-leipoldt2341]

Although I'm a rich man I despise this type of lifestyle, my children knows the house rules, they can do whatever they want but whatever they do there's always consequences to any bad and good thing you do, that's what my children are taught, and also before they want to do something first think before you just do, that's why we have brains, to live is to think

[@PermenBoba-dq3jb]

they aren't just rich, they are Aristocrats😂..

[@stacyhackney6100]

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[@patcola7335]

These are families that have a long history in England

[@Sunny25611]

I understand that she’s trying to teach Rose not to make the same mistakes that she did but gee whiz..That’s also calling the kettle black! . 😂

[@theoutlook55]

Nope. Violet never got caught!

[@lemorab1]

Violet was a respectable married woman when she began having affairs, not a subdeb who hasn't yet been brought out into Society. Until then, the behavior had to be immaculate, or at least the appearance of chastity had to be preserved. Rose can get away with a lot, as the daughter of a marquess, but not beyond a certain point. She doesn't bring a fortune into any marriage she makes, she needs to marry money.

[@samanthasmith61]

@@lemorab1 exactly being married give you advantage of flirting with others or more lol

[@nana_alderweireld_coys]

​@@theoutlook55 didn't she said her maid betrayed her to the Russian princess and the princess dragging her from the courier by her arms and hair?

[@rocioincera1]

Who gave me away?!

[@ingridwatsup9671]

Who GAVE me away

[@rocioincera1]

@@ingridwatsup9671 indeed!

[@duckduckgoismuchbetter]

@@rocioincera1 Comments can actually be edited quite easily.

[@rocioincera1]

@@duckduckgoismuchbetter thankyou! So constructive! :)

[@g.t.g1111]

A Woman’s intuition… Can you notified Eve!

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

I loce that Mary is wearing the coat abd hat she got for her wedding trousseau

[@agnesec3548]

Per favore in italiano

[@hpavalferr7201]

🙂💜

[@adelemauceri3441]

Ma la traduzione?

[@ingridwatsup9671]

Impara l’inglese

[@duckduckgoismuchbetter]

@@ingridwatsup9671 It would be far easier for Google to fix the translation technology than for someone, let alone everyone on earth, to learn ANY second language. Especially English, which is the second most difficult language on earth.

[@adavanja5682]

The second most difficult language on Earth?? For whom, Martians??

[@duckduckgoismuchbetter]

@@adavanja5682 English is known by linguists to be the second most difficult language on earth to learn, after the Chinese language.

[@peterkiraly1058]

@@duckduckgoismuchbetter says who? what linguists? sounds awfully un-scientific and utterly bullshit to me

[@Hallows4]

Putting aside values dissonance and even the cultural mindset of the time, it’s always weird to me when people in period pieces worry so much about “reputation“ and “honor“. To be fair, today’s social media environment can cause the same kind of gossip, but it’s really the scale that seems different. These peoples worlds must’ve been extremely small for them to be so concerned about things that to us would seem relatively routine or simple.

[@marcosfernandes7324]

They were like celebrities, their lives appeared in newspapers. Anything could be damaging. Furthermore, I think it's the values that have changed, not the importance of reputation. If someone has a reputation for being openly racist or homophobic nowadays, that could have a severe impact in one's life.

[@Hallows4]

@@marcosfernandes7324 I’ll buy that last one. A college professor of mine compared gossip to a shredded pillow whose stuffing had spread so far it could never be completely recovered. Don’t know if it was his original idea, but I guess it’s always been true.

[@marcosfernandes7324]

@@Hallows4 Hehe that is true. But that analogy is quite frequent in catholic preaching. The only time I heard someone quote an author for it, it was St Philippe Neri.

[@Skyebright1]

Well everyone did know everyone else, so your reputation was important

[@houseoftyrell1544]

When the first time I saw Lily James, I was like this girl is too modern looking to be part on Downton Abbey then she became the new Keira Knightley (who also I find too modern looking) and been involved in many period drama movies after Downtown Abbey.

[@l.a.3479]

"Too modern looking"? What does that mean?

[@houseoftyrell1544]

@@l.a.3479 I don't know how to explain it, Lily has milenial looks or someone in the 2000s, compare to the actress who play Edith who has classic looks or Mary that still can pull off someone in that era.

[@franek_izerski]

@@houseoftyrell1544 I completely agree, especially about Edith and Mary's look was more appropiate to the era. I think the actress playing Sybil had this "modern look" as well. Posh yes, but not the more classical look.

[@nawazhussain9882]

@@houseoftyrell1544I feel like Keira knightley has a vintage type face but not rlly old old period shows type

[@michaelwalker4022]

Good old fashioned discipline restraint responsibility and duty sadly the world lacks now! bring back the Gracious days of the 19th century!

[@l.a.3479]

For a lot of people, those 19th century days were far from "gracious."

[@davidcorruthers78]

Yea let’s not do that

[@juansantos-lq2kz]

Ah, the halcyon days before penicillin and child labor laws!

[@patriciajrs46]

Respect for elders. Let's try that one for awile, again.

[@l.a.3479]

@@patriciajrs46 *a while*

[@robertmoore6149]

Lady Rose was always Sybil 2.0

[@Skyebright1]

Sybil was more into social causes though than being wild

[@ladyinred3735]

Lilly James' acting is so unnatural. She is the only person in the cast that made the show look cheap.

[@SnowLeopardForever]

Aren’t we jealous?!

[@patcola7335]

@@SnowLeopardForeverSomeone else’s opinion means jealousy to you ?

[@juanchofrancois5369]

Adulterous women just got worse in the century that followed.