The Downfall of Plastic Surgery Positivity

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Today we’re talking about the Korean short film Human Form. It takes place in South Korea where the norm is to have a face created by plastic surgery. Smooth skin, a V-line face, an upturned nose, and no wrinkles - sounds like an Instagram beauty filter. The main character is one of the only people without work done and feels isolated - she tries to figure out how to fit in. I thought it was an interesting perspective since social media, TikTok, and popular celebrities are starting to shape the way we see beauty standards and plastic surgery. Last week I stumbled down another rabbit hole of people getting a lot of cosmetic procedures done at a time and thought about what our future might look like in the next 100 years or so. The Downfall of Plastic Surgery Positivity #edvasian

[@simplykhanyi]

She’s cheated death 5 times , bbls are deadly y’all , don’t do it

[@beatrice4073]

She’s getting her 6th too, her surgeons don’t care about her at all😰

[@sourgummiescureyourpain4555]

Not cheated death completely yet. A fat embolism can happen at any moment in time.

[@mahdireza5695]

What about fat grafting for boobs?

[@skeletoninyourbody9896]

I had a period after abusive relationship where i really wanted bbl.. But seriously, man's approval isn't worth my only life i have...ill learn to love myself, even if it means being ugly and alone.

[@lb-sd1uo]

& they think we r joking☠️ commom yall do squats get a waist-trainer

[@plursocks]

Her lips are so full that it seems like she has trouble closing them and she has trouble talking right now too. I'd be shocked if that alone isn't giving her health problems. Also bbls are one of the most dangerous surgeries because.of the high risk of complications. This is just sad tbh

[@MR-qi5lc]

Breathing through your mouth a lot actually fucks up your teeth since your mouth isn't moist enough

[@plursocks]

@@MR-qi5lc it's not the breathing that's the problem. It's the fact that she can't close her mouth, which probably dries it out.

[@cassette_tape]

So true, and as if the health problems aren't bad enough, she can't even smile properly which is so sad! That removes so much personality from her; even though she has a fun personality it's like it can't even shine through as much because she can't smile. 😢 Everything she does looks like a struggle.

[@shinigamikouryu]

So scared that her lips would just “pop” the whole time. And all those fillers (i assume she inject fillers) would just burst out.

[@avonnehuggins2122]

@@cassette_tape indeed, she paid all that money to change her beautiful former self to what she has now become...smh🤔!

[@jamminjamie1]

The guy that went on the blind date was so respectful! Perfect example of how to turn someone down.

[@Dark666Butterfly]

Damn yes, he was so polite, poor man.

[@Selan356]

As a swede myself, I can say he represends the sweds very well. Most of us aren't rude or really care about what other people do, their body, their choise.

[@mamathemeat]

He was in tv tho. Lol 😂

[@cathunter3874]

handled it beautifully

[@neoqwerty]

@@mamathemeat Most people don't really think about the "this is now going out to the world forever, I should think about what I say"... And also most tv shows want the scandalous, so the fact this dude didn't say something mean or scandalous that TV execs could milk for drama says a LOT. Usually those types of shows fish for the most rude setups they can find. (I mean look, tell me it doesn't smell like the programme arranged that blind date for max incompatibility shock value: old fashion trad rural boy meets cosmopolitan large hyper-caricatured woman? That's not a blind date, that's a blatant dramamongering attempt.

[@irishcajun85]

I feel so bad for Natasha. It’s obvious she’s got a good heart and personality, but she has seriously deformed her face and body. I hope she’s not running from trauma, and whatever is going on, she can get help for soon.

[@ruiakami]

She is.... Ahem.

[@ollievendor7413]

For sure, someone hurt her really really bad.

[@blackbird6001]

She needs psychiatric help

[@placiddreams6334]

I wish people had to get screened by a psychologist for body dysmorphia before plastic surgery. If they have it then they’re not aloud to get the surgery. So many people will never stop bc they have a mental illness and their body will literally never be enough unless they go to therapy

[@butchsawyer4416]

The video of Human Form, the girl actually died while getting her procedure. The doctor sent someone else back home, pretending to be her but because she had her surgery done the family didn’t notice. You can see how they’re puzzled at first, wondering who it is but seeing how she looks like them they don’t question it. It’s a very sad ending.

[@Overdosed_On_Tea]

what really ? is it a theory or official ?

[@memesfromdeepspace1075]

@@Overdosed_On_Tea if you read the subtitle they clearly say she don't open his eyes and they in trouble.

[@claracerqueira5]

Oh wow! I didn’t get it!

[@hannahbarbarian6786]

I had no idea that happened shit is insane

[@unturned6066]

What 😅

[@helplessheroine2641]

I’ve seen people call cosmetic surgery “self care“ or “good for people with body dysmorphia” and it’s actually….. so fucked. There’s no guarantee surgery will change how you see yourself. It won’t make you magically love yourself. I don’t blame people for getting surgery because no one is unaffected by beauty standards etc, but I hate the industry.

[@sandralison7584]

Me too

[@inlandempress4587]

hello also gender reassignment greatly profits that industry. How about accepting who we are whatever that comes with. Cant even be gay now without the chopping off of the genitals it seems, bbl, breast augmentation, and fillers.

[@rini9325]

and the worst part is, people call you anti feminist for supposedly being against the industry, or not supporting their ideas of considering plastic surgery somehow good for them.

[@willv42]

Finally someone who says it without sugar coating it. Everyone can do whatever they wanna do but I'm tired of people acting as if it's completely normal to change your jaw shape or anything without a 100% guarantee that you'll like yourself after that.

[@alskarmode]

Body dysmorphia is a mental illness, and it's not treated/cured by plastic surgery... that makes no sense

[@ddeokjinnie818]

That korean doll movie was actually terrifying. My literal reaction to their faces was holy cheezits

[@lenovo9269]

Is it bad I thought it'd be cute as a gothic mask....

[@shanishine38]

​@lenovo9269 good for Halloween in S. KOREA.

[@lenovo9269]

@@shanishine38 #scaring my grandparents 101

[@MissSweetie]

she was such a beautiful woman before she got all that shit done to herself. Such a shame people want to destroy themselves.

[@dnglbarys4brkfst]

I don’t think she can help it….. It’s called severe body dysmorphia….

[@Nosk0]

@@dnglbarys4brkfstexactly why she should go to a therapist and not to get plastic surgery, she’ll never get satisfied with her image

[@lisaschuster9305]

If you identify as ugly, then I guess you gotta transition.

[@AshleySpeaks4U]

Can barely talk. 😢

[@Adelaide_Cuthbert]

​@@dnglbarys4brkfst She can pour that money into therapy. At some point, it is a choice.

[@clowicous]

I’ve learned how silly the phrase “this is how REAL WOMEN should look” is, especially when the person saying it is a woman - you’re a woman, that’s how you look, that’s it.

[@evakurl]

And how are those chin and cheekbone implants, lip fillers and 5 bbls are real 😓

[@emmqmora]

Best example of brain wash can do. She's been manipulated by male gaze.

[@yyg4632]

Yep

[@shush2042]

exactly !! some boys said to me that woman should be skinny to be considered attractive back in 2013 because I always was on curvier side but now skinnier women face the same problem with their bodies which is absolutely sad :( we are all real WOMEN , no matter how we look and how we choose to take care of ourselves.

[@Kamotea_kyutie]

@@shush2042 Exactly!!

[@pizzadogma]

It's ironic how America is a very individualistic country yet many Americans who get plastic surgery do it to conform to beauty standards rather than to look "different"

[@baddie1shoe]

I’ve often thought how similar many people with many tattoos look. Usually they have gauges, & face piercings too-many end up looking..like facsimiles of one another. They tend to be a group that also champion’s ‘individuality’ too. Lol. Sure.. They are all looking to fit in.

[@Catglittercrafts]

I don’t personally know anyone who’s had plastic surgery

[@iman-ur5vg]

i feel like it’s important to note that as an american the people who get plastic surgery are people who have some sort of notoriety on the internet, even if it’s just a couple thousand followers on social media they still have an audience. i as an average middle class american have never once met anyone who’s had plastic surgery. it’s always people with an audience

[@elise8276]

Well, yes and no in my opinion! I think what makes America individualistic is that each individual gets the choice and right to wear whatever they want - not that everyone’s fighting to stand out from one another. Whereas in some more conservative countries (or many other places in the world) some things people enjoy wearing are frowned upon and shamed.

[@wildestdreams6887]

I think it’s individualistic in a way that people can freely express themselves with fashion/accessories and not feel like a complete outsider, because they will also find many others that are into the same aesthetics.

[@DianeRoma1]

When I was a teenager, I was walking through a high end store in Beverly Hills. Saw 4 women with pretty much the same face that didn’t match the wrinkled hands/other body parts. It was so disturbing that I chose to never have plastic surgery. I’m now in my 50’s and look younger than my friends who had face lifts and other plastic surgeries. People should do what gives them confidence but I rather follow good skincare, drink plenty of water and look like myself.

[@nomoretwitterhandles]

That's noble and I agree with you for the most part. Unfortunately, "good skincare" will not get rid of my early jowls--something that runs in the family. I'm not even into my mid-20s and my genetics are already showing... it's not exactly something that raises one's spirits, you know? Plus I love to wear lipstick, but it's hard to justify buying expensive lipstick if nobody can see my upper lip, lmao. I don't want artificial sausage lips, but it would be nice if my lip was at LEAST visible. And let me tell ya, no lips and supple jowls do not exactly make me feel confident. I'm definitely pretty, and I think I get to say that as I have definitely gotten a lot of compliments here and there, but I'm not exactly thrilled to have the jawline of someone in their late 60s, and damn it I want to show off my lipstick!!! Preventing wrinkles and loose skin does mostly come down to skincare and water, you are right. But there are some people out here who do want minor cosmetic surgeries without wanting to look like a robot!

[@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj]

​@@nomoretwitterhandles I feel your pain. I've had frown lines (one deep and one minor) since I was in high school! I want Botox for just the eyebrows when I can afford it. It makes me look mean but I just frown when I'm thinking.

[@mlekosojowe7312]

​@@nomoretwitterhandlesBe carefull. Every plastic surgery addict started somewhere. Also the impact of those procedures in the future is not worth it. For example many people who got nosejobs have trouble breathing in their sleep. Lip adjustments may cause dental problems due to higher air exposure. You always need to have money ready to "fix" unwanted results and all of them possiable outcomes are impossiable to predict.

[@lillybilly5]

​@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj before getting botox you should try castor oil. It's called nature's botox for a reason. Slather on face each night and massage into wrinkles, it'll take a few months to see results but it works.

[@dandywaysofliving]

The rule should be. For health reasons, give it a year unless it's a life long issue. . For aging, give it 5 yrs. . For drooping skin. . It depends but give it 2 years after work outs. Same for aesthetics. . In general. . Keep it under 15 percent for the first 10 yrs and consider where u fit in the previous categories. . Also don't forget you can't undo an accident out of your control if it doesn't work out. In case u take a cheap route

[@charlotpink07]

Even in places where individually is "encouraged", being unique is only accepted if it falls into what's socially acceptable

[@D1LF-L0V3R]

I hate how celebrities be like “love yourself” when you literally brought your whole face and body 😐 you clearly didn’t “love yourself” so you had to get a whole new face and body. Cough cough kardashians

[@retrosphereasmr7364]

cough cough *kylie* lol😂

[@retrosphereasmr7364]

for damn sure

[@naurrrre]

you can love yourself and get plastic surgeries, those aren’t mutually exclusive

[@coffeepandacat]

@@naurrrre thats what they want you to believe

[@chou-4737fjswi]

@@naurrrre that is an intrinsically contradictory argument that will fall apart with the barest of critical thinking lol

[@KateCarew]

Do y’all remember when the miss South Korea pageant was so blighted by surgical procedures the judges couldn’t tell the participants apart? :(

[@NoName12344o]

What year was that? That sounds kinda horrible and hilarious at the same time.

[@KateCarew]

@@NoName12344o I think it was 2013?? It was allll over the media. So plastic surgery was the initial issue, that they had all undergone a similar set of procedures in an effort to look “perfect” and ended up very homogeneous, but after some deeper analysis it was also a bit of photoshop that contributed to the judges confusion. Either way, it’s really sad and oddly comical. You’ll find it on the internet, I remember these grid images of women and they weren’t IDENTICAL, but there was a definite absence of unique “imperfections” that make people look like individuals.

[@NoName12344o]

@@KateCarew i definitely have look into it, thank you for your answers. This sounds soo crazy

[@KateCarew]

@@NoName12344o it was one of those cultural moments where people did take pause and think “whoa, maybe we’ve gone too far?”

[@qweennotcha1519]

Yes! I don’t remember if it was particularly the Miss Korea 2013, but there was one where I believe Girls’ Generation Sooyoung was like an MC or something and there’s a photo of her and them and they all look so similar while she looked different and stood out.

[@BurningQuestion]

My good friend worked in the oldest breast surgery clinic in Poland and told me that oftentimes clients would ask for changes that would be too drastic or unhealthy for them and the clinic had to refuse. Which, mind you, is not something most clinics do in America because here it's all about making profit using and abusing idiots.

[@angelah6191]

Many times the drastic surgeries are done in Mexico or Korean.

[@PalmTreeDayDreams]

The original Twilight Zone series also had an episode about plastic surgery called "Number 12 Looks Just Like You". It's very good and basically the same premise as that Korean film but done way before!

[@joshuanoriega5680]

Great episode. Only difference is that girl was totally ok with how she looked, everyone else wasn't.

[@sabaducia]

My first thought too! Classic episode.

[@rebeccadunahoo9201]

@@joshuanoriega5680 didn't they also have "artificial happiness" pills that you only took after you got the surgery? And her dad killed himself in pursuit of finding a more individualized/unique way of life? This episode is one of my top ten faves in terms of Twilight Zone episodes! 😊

[@joshuanoriega5680]

@@rebeccadunahoo9201 Yup... they just don't make TV like they used too

[@gtg488w]

Natasha has a funny/fun personality, she just looks extremely frightening. the guy on the date actually seems cool as shit too

[@semekiizuio]

I thought the same for the guy, very respectful and mature with his vocabulary

[@zymantesa]

I wonder how differently the date would have gone if there haven't been any cameras.

[@perrytheplatypus699]

@@zymantesa I’m wondering about that too 😂

[@thesevenkingswelove9554]

I think that's because of the cameras lol

[@gtg488w]

@@zymantesa it could’ve gone in either direction I think 😂

[@mariaasimina5303]

For Europe there are things like do whatever makes you happy but you do get judged for whatever you do so most people prefer to not stand out

[@duqial]

You put it so well! I am impressed

[@Cherryxrc]

Pretty much yeah 🥲

[@pix1s653]

so true

[@imxsallyh]

that sums it up perfectly

[@scz1770]

That's literally the West lol

[@tired1923]

Natasha is a sweet woman and it’s sad that she clearly suffers from body dysmorphia. no one goes through such great and dangerous lengths to change their body this much without having a sadly messed up image of themselves. for some people this dysmorphia causes an eating disorder, for others it becomes a gym and healthy food addiction, and she belongs to the third kind where plastic surgery takes over. she doesn’t deserve to be called monstrous for this, bringing her self-esteem down aint gonna help her. I genuinely don’t think she’s ugly, I’m just sad she couldn’t find herself beautiful before and still doesn’t now.

[@Minto8384]

"There are scarier things to draw, like those monkey NFTs" is genuinely the funniest joke I have ever heard

[@cute_snail]

As a German I can say that in general people don’t get plastic surgery a lot. In the eye of the public, visible plastic surgery is also very much disliked especially because there are some other bad stereotypes linked to it. But there is definitely a rise among young woman and it’s getting more normal lately.

[@drkmryl6875]

Especially when it comes to lip fillers I think :') And many of them start at a young age too. As far as I know you only have to be 16 years old to get your lips done..

[@LaSa1]

I actually know a lot of people that got fillers or Botox but it’s not visible, they still look average

[@LaSa1]

(North rhine Westphalia)

[@slimypeach]

Yeah, in Germany (at least where I live) most young women get lip fillers if they get ANYTHING done, and they’ll usually get eyelash extensions. The only reason I haven’t yet is because the lip filler isn’t permanent and I don’t want to waste the money. 😭😂

[@jnnakle101]

@@drkmryl6875 yes i see more of lip fillers in germany the past months

[@Baphy_baby666]

Natasha is a hilarious and sweet woman but my god she’s completely disfigured herself. The amount of filler makes her look monstrous and quite scary honestly.

[@indind1174]

Agree, she's so positive but I hope she wont get too addicted...

[@Feverm00n]

@@indind1174 she already has gotten too addicted, 6 BBLs is seriously extreme

[@itsmebochaberi]

Am worried for his blind date.

[@simmyz]

she looks very cute in her school photos and i bet there are people out there would get surgeries to look like her before

[@lurklingX]

really wish she would've seen how good she looked before. and the guy made a really valid point: "so you traded fitness for surgeries?" on the surface, it's obvious, but the part that stands out is how she *totally abandoned* fitness versus just adding surgeries to do some extra stuff she wanted. take Kim K... obviously surgeries. but, you can tell she has to do stuff to maintain her figure as well. this woman.... someone said she looked disfigured and i have to agree. the thick neck points to being overweight and unhealthy, and that's without even getting to the plastic surgery part. it just makes me feel sad, and awkward. and it's hard to understand how she truly feels she looks sexy. she's carrying herself and acting as if the body she's in is a coy, seductive type, and she *can't* pull it off, not with the face she has crafted. i'm not trying to be negative on her. i just don't understand how there is such a disconnect, that she isn't seeing all of this. her current state looks like where you'd be STARTING, not the current chosen progress.

[@blondbraid7986]

Swede here, and whilst we are an individualistic country, plastic surgery is looked down on as fake and trashy by most people, but Sweden truly is the kingdom of letting people down gently and not criticizing people to their faces, so the guy's reaction was fairly standard for Swedes.

[@vrod9686]

I’ve dealt with body dysmorphia since I was 10/12 (10 and 12 and to this day for different reasons unfortunately) and I feel so bad for people who overdue it, it’s a nightmare to feel like this.

[@Plaksa2004]

The thing is plastic surgeries don't help in most cases cause there's a problem with a brain, not with a body. And ppk should try to heal their psychological state, not the body or face

[@SparkleKnits]

I’ve given birth to six children and my abdominal muscles were f*cked. I couldn’t do core exercises and it was causing back issues, so I had an abdominoplasty (tummy tuck) done last year. I don’t regret it at all and, while it was a cosmetic procedure, I almost consider it reconstructive since it allowed me to work out again. However, I can definitely see how plastic surgery can be addictive and dangerous to your self-image, especially if you live your life on social media and crave attention and likes.

[@biguattipoptropica]

The line between cosmetic and medically necessary is very blurry. I’m glad you had a great experience. I think a good counter to it is just better pre-procedure education and counselling.

[@ashes_menagerie]

I feel like your surgery was an actual medical need. There's a difference. You didn't go out to get some fake lips or nose job for no reason. You were in actual pain and suffering.

[@NovaDoll]

@@ashes_menagerie Agreed. They repair the muscles. It’s not really cosmetic.

[@LorienzoDeGarcia]

Plastic surgery is definitely made for someone like you! Love that it helped you!

[@donamirtz]

After my mom gave birth to two giga babies (me and my older brother) she had a tummy tuck too because she couldnt even go to the toilet properly. So yeah, I agree with you.

[@TheFloMachine]

I'm from Norway and plastic surgery is not very common here, but lip injections and botox etc are on the rise among younger women.

[@ElenaSC]

Totally agree, I don’t think I know of anyone who has done anything - but it’s very accepted and not looked down upon!

[@mayaxlumi]

I can definitely confirm this to be true

[@veero8130]

Aren't Norway woman one of the most finest woman in the western world? No wonder there is no surgery

[@mia-moura-kun3534]

Heisann!

[@mishaa7263]

Sweden, Norway, and UK girls love the lip injections haha

[@bibifricotin]

i was dismorphophobe when i was young (i was hating myself and seeing me too ugly that i was hiding most of the time). i never did surgery; i only tried to killed myself but i came back! now i am 55, i have wrinkels and gray hairs, but i love myself because in my life i did a lot of beautifull actions. i helped people, children, handicaped, animals, i found love, and happyness and i really don't care to be old and ugly. i am smart, funny, and free! and i guess i start to understand that life is to become the best soul of ourself, at the end this old vessel wich is our body will die anyway but my soul would be wiser.

[@Beansxshowtime]

WHAT. AS A SWEDISH PERSON WHO LIVES IN GOTHENBURG THIS IS BAFFLING TO ME. Also I'm so shocked I've never seen her if she lives in Gothenburg? Either way I feel sorry for her. I do wonder how her quality of life is... If she has long terms plans or not.

[@Hip.Username]

I think the woman from Sweden seemed like such a sweet, fun person, and I'm not against cosmetic surgery, but she has so much filler in her face she sounds like she's having a hard time talking clearly and that is insane. If she is truly happy then ok, fillers do dissolve over time so if she's tired of the look she can just stop getting injections, but she'll be left with a saggy face and will need more surgery. I worry for people like this because the issue is that they'll never be satisfied and where tf are they getting the money for this

[@Original_Tenshi_Chan]

Agreed. And if she really wanted to get rid of her fillers in a hurry, most fillers have a solvent counterpart that can be injected to reverse the fillers. I can't imagine how she can feel comfortable with her face skin stretched like that though. I got a knot on my head once, and the skin over the swelling felt uncomfortable and painful. Face skin isn't meant to stretch like that.

[@cocoacoolness]

Agreed, she seems like a fun person to hang out with. Honestly, whilst her bum implants are huge they look okay in my opinion, but I'm not a fan of the fillers. At least fillers are easier to reverse than a bbl

[@anpatman]

Fillers dont dissolve, they migrate. Thats why her face is so puffy, its overfilled, and she keeps making it worse

[@SaschaBraus77]

No filters don't dissolve. There is a great video about it from a plastic surgeon that explains how the filters don't just go away but actually stay in the face and how someone else said already "migrate" to other parts of your face. You would have to get a specific injection for it to dissolve.

[@user-zk4dy5he2d]

sad thing is that fillers dont fully dissolve on their own and can be permanent..

[@purplepotato7929]

Here in Italy everyone is supposed to look "natural", so as long as your surgery isn't noticeable it's ok, same things with makeup and pretty much everything in life.

[@iwannatalkalot3415]

Yes!

[@thefoodproject7559]

True. They are more toned down. Even if they have non Standard imperfections, they know how to work it.. the French are good with that.

[@izek402]

Ik which country I'm moving too know

[@divx1001]

​@@izek402 although Italy is very obsessed with beauty, I feel like in general people here are more relaxed. They may judge you but if you know how to definirle yourself, people will respect you. It's not a country for weak willed or weak minded people 🤣

[@sallylemon5835]

Naturally good shaped

[@mavinajfan]

That Korean movie reminds me of a twilight zone episode with Avery similar plot, except the main girl in that episode didn’t want plastic surgery to look like everyone else and everyone else was crazy. She is forced into a psychiatric hospital and realizes that the transformation isn’t optional, like they say and she has to have it no matter what, even though she loves herself. So she undergoes the surgery and ends up looking just like her friend. I remember watching that with my dad a few years back and being like woah, that’s still relevant today.

[@sheyshey1306]

The doctors that worked on her need to give her a full refund and have their license revoked, apart from the 1st and possibly the second doctor. They know full well it's not good for and yet they keep taking her money. They have zero morals

[@jessicablair5872]

That blind date wasn't fair for either of them. They set that up hoping for a scene but thankfully they didn't get it.

[@rotebohne8033]

Yes.. but it was very nice to see his mature reaction :)

[@jessicablair5872]

Yes it was!

[@nmfitts]

Absolutely. That guy was a real champ. Clearly a bit weirded out, but like "I'll be polite, have dinner and conversation, no big deal"

[@DioShiver]

I was so SHOCKED how cool and nice he was, that's amazing how respectful and polite he reacted

[@hybridmems]

Swedes are just classy bunch, coming from a finn 😊

[@User76422]

As someone who is studying to be a plastic surgeon, BBLs are so dangerous. This is neglect and any surgeon who agrees to a 6th BBL deserves to have their license revoked. My goal is to open my own practice, and we will not be performing BBLs there.

[@NYD666]

Most American surgeons won't perform bbls. That's why most Americans go out of the states.

[@DakotaCastro7]

best of luck! it sounds like you have your ethics in order

[@nursemain3174]

Bbls have a extremely high death rate

[@lisae6725]

Glad to hear this. I think it’s too dangerous and should be outlawed. When 1 in 3,000 people die from this procedure, that’s not acceptable. I wouldn’t allow women with children to do it because they deserve to have a mother who is still alive vs one with enhanced buttocks.

[@chitravi77]

Whoever did 3rd and following should get their license revoked too

[@irenecarhart]

I am too old for plastic surgery at this juncture of my life. It would be like putting a chandelier in a haunted house. 👵🏻

[@telepathicmagicshop]

Same!😂

[@MagdaleneDivine]

That date was so difficult to watch and sit through. Cringe is an overwhelming feeling sometimes. Like painful. That guy looked so pissed

[@orbit-l9046]

I'm from Europe and I feel like plastic surgery is uncommon unless it's for medical reasons, but then Europe has many different countries with different views so I don't think you can generalise the whole continent

[@mayohooe1397]

Yeah, I think we should separate it into 3 parts - Northern Europe, Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Just how he referred to Eastern Asia rather than *Asia* Edit : As Юлия Соломко pointed it out, we could even separate it in 4 (NE, WE, Slavic EE and Balkan EE)

[@Sunset553]

I’ve always thought if I had enough money for plastic surgery, what would I change? I decided if I have enough money, i should give it to someone who needs it for medical reasons. Now that I’m older, I see more and more parts of me that could be changed for the better, but I have a strong desire to save every dollar. I’m not sure why. I guess it’s for bribing the nursing home staff to get better care!

[@user-dk7zr1zd2s]

@@mayohooe1397 and Eastern Europe can be separated into Slavic Countries and Balkan Countries

[@mayohooe1397]

Юлия Соломко Thanks for pointing it out! My knowledge of Eastern Europe is pretty limited so that makes more sense :)

[@user-wr8bs8vx9r]

It's not like I'm offended (I'm not saying that you are!) but generalising a whoooole continent with sooo many countries, cultures, languages, traditions, histories....... I just dislike generalisations overall. I sure generalise once in a while too, I try not to.

[@rabbadidi7385]

In my teens skinny body and plucked eyebrows were the in thing and it messed with my self image. Now thicc thighs and thick eyebrows are the in thing, aka what my body naturally has. Society and trends change, it's not easy to love yourself sometimes but it's worth it in the long run.

[@roxylalondes]

Been learning that women's bodies go in and out of style all the time.. so you may as well just love who you are :)

[@DeadKraken]

@@roxylalondes There is also this pathetic thing of cultural trends, in which people literally consider "beautiful" shit that's not natural for their ethnicity to have. Colorism in India is a very good example of this, but there is something similar in every culture. Like in italian culture for some reason, being blonde, tall and thin(like, no-ass kind of thin) is considered very desirable for women, while natural mediterranean women are literally known for their dark hair\eyes, olive skin, petite figures and generous curves. The sort of bullshit that is pushed onto women is so stupid lmao

[@MissMoontree]

The eyebrows really suddenly shifted. One summer everyone was plucking their eyebrows and the next it was thick eyebrows. Girls that used to pluck them just could not fit that image. I never really plucked them, but also don't have the thickest eyebrows. It is a race you can't win anyway

[@spicypeppermushroom8708]

Aaah the 90s where we developed anorexia and bulima

[@bdkplaysx]

​@@DeadKrakenpeople want what they can't have

[@BlueLionsTVNiiNiiFC]

Glad I found a video on this. Been something I’ve been thinking about, since plastic surgery became so normalised I dunno, I can accept I might sound harsh and mean spirited. Open to different perspectives for sure But, I feel a sense of sadness at how normalised plastic surgery has become. Are peoples sense of self that hollow and meaningless? Is conformity really that beautiful? Why do you feel better about yourself, now you have the same nose, lips, etc, as everyone else on your social level? Do these external procedures really add a genuine enhancement of self? You feel more confident and a fuller version of yourself? Or are these benefits something people fool themselves into believing they’ll feel, when it could just be the ego acting on over drive, to reinforce this character ppl love to portray to society? Saw a tiktok that said exactly what I’ve always said. Rich ppl are now reverting back to being more natural looking. Why? Because all the poor suckers have made it look tacky now. The rich can pay for procedures where they get the artistic finishes to get the best possible surgery’s. This is bespoke stuff. The average joe, is not getting this care when they’re hittin turkey for whatever. You get the by the numbers cosmetics, that everyone else gets. I just find it a bit sad. Course, in the capitalist pursuit for wealth and security, it’s no surprise that peoples insecurities are being commodified now. How many Amazon’s can their really be? It’s about maximising what exists already. And one way to do that is by praying on insecurities and profiting from them. How many people 5-10yrs ago even cared about their lips? Now everyone is getting this look, that doesn’t even naturally suit how your face is. Not everyone can have thick lips. it just looks alien and looks obvious that this is not your natural beauty It’s a shame. Beauty to me, comes from your character and your facial quirks. Lots of history has passed down to produce the face you have. It’s like your unique identifier. To have that stripped away is a bit sad. It gets me thinking, if i ever had a daughter one day, I hope I’d be able to raise her with true empowerment and self confidence. Looks are not anything at all, who you are deep down is where your true beauty lies.

[@nukelius]

i like how you usually tie in a movie or other media as a connection to the topic, it adds a lot to the message of the video

[@erinsymone1645]

Frankly I've been horrified by plastic surgery culture and the flippant way we're expected to go along with it. the damage it has and will continue to inflict on young women in particular is immense and immeasurably evil.

[@thesandwich5321]

Agreed

[@justsagan]

It's changing society for the worse. The thought of it truly disgusts me.

[@candylide]

​@@wolfieyThen plastic surgery helped your dad, good for him! But I don't think that industry is as predatory towards men luckily

[@madamebkrt]

It's concepts like "preventative botox" for me. Trying to get young women hooked on these damaging procedures that don't work.

[@ascrinkleyfellow]

It's honestly terrible, and horrifying- the whole plastic surgery community feels like it belongs on that one subreddit, r/dystopiannightmare _(I think)_

[@Stormith]

I had 1 plastic surgery procedure to “fix” a part of my body that wasn’t necessarily “wrong” but was outside the norm enough that it affected my self esteem and happiness every day. So I had the 1 procedure and have never looked back, I invested in a good surgeon and took proper after care and 5 years later I am beyond pleased that I did my procedure. But after I had it done, I was immediately inundated by women suggesting I get more. Women saying things akin to “you look great, now what will you get next?” And would insinuate that since I had my one procedure done successfully and was happy, that logically I should get more procedures and become even more happy. Of course I did not succumb to this pressure since I never did it to please others in the first place, but I found it very weird that other women immediately started suggesting I get filler and implants in places I never had a problem with. It is great that we live in a scientifically advanced world so we can do these procedures, but the lowered prices and easier access is definitely leading people to do things they probably should not. People think just because they can, there’s no reason they shouldn’t, but in the end they turn into plastic surgery monsters

[@lucyandecember2843]

oo.o

[@seatheparade]

Yeah it really doesn't help especially if the person given these suggestions are the kind of people with addictive personalities

[@kendalbrenneman]

My plan is to just never let anybody know if I get something done, since I don’t want any commentary on it, nor do I want that to be part of what people think about when they see me. It’s a strange world…

[@tatiana4050]

My grandpa's friend had always like stereotypical pretty face aside from a big big nose, and she was always self concious about it like extremely that it affected her personality. She had her nose done as a wedding gift and it greatly improved how she sees herself. There are no universal standards of beauty, but there are some universal standards of ugliness.

[@biguattipoptropica]

I have a few (mostly non-surgical) procedures picked out but I did a lot of research with a clear end result I want and clear reasons why. I can’t imagine winging it.

[@elan1418]

What a guy, how he mustered up to present so polite, while all his face read "does-not-compute". That is some super-human effort!

[@alchemicmercury]

I loved this story! This and Dumplings are my two faverote poke-the-bear horror representation of Korean beuty standards.

[@chantellethecool1]

I was born with a cleft lip and palette. I have a visible scar on my face from getting corrective surgery when I was a baby. My last procedure I had with a dental implant to replace a missing tooth and honestly I’m so happy. My doctor told me if I ever feel like I want my nose done or my lips done to give them a call anytime. But I don’t think I’ll ever get anything else done. I’m happy with the way I look. I’m beautiful and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says.

[@nonenone9892]

Alas! My kin!! I was as well. And it's been so rare for me to encounter another. In my situation when I was 13 my parents because they were ashamed felt the need to get me a nose job. Post surgery though everything was very natural and besides from having a barely visible scar like yourself, it's like people still want it to keep me down and keep me stuck in this identity and in shame. Excited to return to school with my new look (though I still had packing in my nose and nose swelling) ... kids are assholes. Among many of the heinous things said and done "N$gg+r lips"(n word) was a favorite and now everybody is getting lip injections to have the full lips that I've always had. Unfortunately many of the assault and chronic verbal shaming, I turned to maladaptive coping ways. That screwed up a large portion of my early adult life. Apologies for such an extensive response I've only met two other people with the same one being my brother (crazy rare) and another who was a pretty not cool person as he carried damage from his childhood as well. Would love to talk outside of here!

[@Junitunes]

Don’t ever get plastic surgery from a dentist. It’s not exactly regulated any doctor can do plastic surgery even if they are not board surgery

[@idkwhathomestuckisijustlik3439]

I agree you are beautiful (well idk what you look like but still lol)

[@yowhazup9928]

To me, replacing a missing tooth isnt a cosmetic surgery since you literally need teeth to eat and stay alive ❤️

[@captainjoy8976]

Oh I have known a girl with that too! For some reason I thought her scar was really beautiful. It kind of gave her the edge and made her stand out in a good way :) I am sure you have the same charme to you :D

[@hardcase7753]

"this is what a real woman should look like" opinion about plastic surgery itself aside...how can one use the word *real* in that when it's surgeries? i get it's probably like, a rhetorical or metaphorical use of the word real, but... (also i dont want to rag on her as a person. she seems bubbly and friendly in what i've seen here)

[@kekessadavies4150]

That’s what I was thinking!

[@edwardhisse2687]

At some point you gotta do some mrntal gymnastics to excuse your surgery spending.

[@annesophie4037]

Maybe i think too much about that statement but it feels so weirdly contradicting to me, simply because her goal is to show what real women should look but it's only achievable with surgery.

[@hardcase7753]

@@annesophie4037 yeah, it is contradicting like that. although i feel it's maybe a little more of an abstract use of the word "real", such as used in phrases like "real men wear pink". idk how to explain it past that though aside from perhaps just used as a way of saying "this is what women should strive for", which feel like it may be a good interpretation. still a little messed up even so to say that people should strive for one standard and one standard only, but i really dont think she meant it that deeply nor do i really think/am trying to say she's as harsh as this interpretation sounds. in my opinion though *any* iteration of "real women are skinny/have curves/have fillers/whatever" is harmful in its own right

[@SlothDaan]

In all honesty, I think it's what she feels She should look like. She probably doesn't want all other women to look like that because than she isn't unique anymore.

[@meki-]

As a Swedish person, I was really surprised to find out she was Swedish, some people might get plastic surgery but I barely see it here, I can confirm that she is the only Swedish person I’ve seen with so many plastic surgery’s Edit: 8 months later and I finally remember to say, Idk if I can rlly say that cause I was only born here. I’m not technically swedish but I live here 😭

[@pinsrlTrex]

technically i got my first plastic surgery recently (top surgery, woohoo!) and i really cant understand how one could be addicted to surgeries, recovery is exhausting, you have to get stitches removed, infection risk, pain. the fewer surgeries i can get away with the better.

[@mariananarciso7445]

super late reply but congratulations!! i hope recovery has been going as well as it could possibly go!! 🥰🥰

[@hl8138]

@@mariananarciso7445 insanely ironic to be congratulating someone for plastic surgery on a video criticising plastic surgery positivity

[@mariananarciso7445]

@@hl8138 insanely uninformed to not realize that there are health reasons for certain plastic surgeries

[@mariananarciso7445]

@@hl8138 insanely uninformed to not realize that there are health reasons for certain plastic surgeries

[@valeriapebble]

​@hl8138 it's a type of gender reassignment surgery. Gender Dysphoria is a diagnosable condition, and plastic surgery is a potential treatment.

[@ichliebebaeumeweilbaum]

As someone from Germany I've never seen someone who had plastic surgery. It's probably because I'm from a smaller city, but I'd argue that plastic surgery is by far not as common here as it is in America or south Korea. Some people do express themselves through colorful hair, tattoos and piercings, but plastic surgery is very uncommon and mostly only done if there's a medical reason.

[@khuzla]

The thing with plastic surgery is that most people who get a procedure actually keep looking very natural and that those very plastic-y people are outliers. I mean, lets take a look at BibisBeautyPalace: Miss girl got a nose and boob job but you would not know if you'd just look at her. I do think plastic surgery is a lot more common in germany (and europe) than we think - we just don't see it because generally people like to keep the natural look -, though I also believe it's not as extreme as f.ex. south korea nor the us.

[@briicksyy]

Same

[@misty9964]

lol it's very common just look at german influencers even promoting it and putting their code to get % off lmao

[@ichliebebaeumeweilbaum]

@@khuzla honestly I haven't even thought about influencers when writing my comment xD, yes it's probably more common for them... But yeah still not as common as it is elsewhere

[@putrijd5173]

i was reading through thinking i also never knew anyone who has had plastic surgery, well, maybe except this one girl… and she is an influencer lol

[@yyg4632]

Her face fillers are monstrous honestly. That's body/face dysphoria or something to feel like you have to become that.

[@ivyd5485]

Yeah exactly

[@graymonk5972]

like all things, there’s definitely ways it can get problematic and how plastic surgery is advocated from the industry is wild. i see it similar to body mods, mostly harmless but of course it can be addicting from the adrenaline rush you have when getting piercings and tattoos. but i see plastic surgery advertised more as a “fix” for your insecurities that body mods aren’t. i think a good mentality to have is to only get something if you want it for yourself, and if it won’t have a profoundly negative impact on your health. sorta like how people typically advise only getting a tattoo after you’ve thought about it for at least a few months

[@FAT.MAN.]

Honestly I’m glad I’m scared of surgery, especially plastic surgery. As somebody with a very flexible weight and body image as well as being prone to addiction I know if I weren’t scared, I’d be dangerously disfigured by now.

[@vivienkoles1880]

I'm from Hungary in Europe and here plastic surgery is not common, wealthy people do it here, but just smaller procedures, like botox, lip fillers in smaller amount. Some people sometimes do here bust or bum implants, but usually they are upper class women or upper class sex workers, because plastic surgery here is mainly for health reasons, after an accident for example.

[@AureliaX]

All hungarian and bulgarian woman in The Netherlands are completly changed in to these weard looking sex dolls so your answer is not correct.

[@celebrityinstagramlive4]

Meg egy magyar 😊

[@JustanAI00]

I am from Hungary too, you forget to mention the liposuction is quite common, especially of Instagram fit models who are sponsored. Liposuction is not so expensive for these kind of people. It is not a luxury anymore.

[@slimypeach]

It’s the same here in Germany. In Germany I feel like lip fillers are the most common, along with eyelash extensions. (Although the eyelash extensions aren’t considered a surgical cosmetic procedure.) It can sort of give everyone the same face though.

[@alexandrastan5030]

Yeah if you look like that is eastern europe people will think you are working in sex industry ,and a lot of guys will make fun of you with that huge lips .Plus girls that look like that they are usually with guys that are not usually doing legal stuff ...

[@ducklingscap897]

I think that plastic surgeries are way more common than we think. It's just that 90% of plastic surgeries are so subtle that a normal person wouldn't recognize it. Especially without knowing the person before. it's just the more extreme cases that get a lot of attention and mostly don't look natural or normal anymore.

[@user-kw7mr6xt9n]

yeah. that actually reminds me of a story: so after completing filming for the movie version of the musical Annie, Carol Burnett - who played Miss Hannigan - had plastic surgery so, in her words, she "would actually have a chin." She then was told sometime after the procedure that they were reshooting the whole "Easy Street" sequence (which she was prominently featured in). She jokes that in the final film she walked into the closet at the start of the scene with one chin and left with another, lol. Honestly I never would have noticed if she hadn't pointed it out.

[@seanionan7275]

There's also the fact that it isn't always for cosmetic reasons, so sometimes it can be genuinely beneficial. I have a deformed nose (internally, so it's not noticeable until I fold it over and scare people) and if I got a nose job to straighten it back out inside I could breathe better. Breast reductions help people who have such heavy chests that it hurts them with the weight, so those are fairly popular too. But due to the fact that the most visible surgeries are the more obvious and cosmetic ones, it probably shapes the public eye about it strongly because, well, we *don't* see the "normal" ones, because they look normal.

[@DLlama]

It's so normal now that I really think most people don't realize how many common features aren't natural. Boobs that hold cleavage without a push-up? Silicone. Cheeks that clap? BBL. Super even white teeth? Veneers. Sick muscles? Steroids. And I'd bet +90% of everyone who's professionally in front of a camera has fillers and/or Botox. People actually get both their legs broken just to get 1-2" closer that 6' mark! That procedure used to be super rare and only for major deformities, but now it's for insecure tech bros 😓

[@m_shki]

True, a lot of people don't think too deep into it, but if you've been in any kind of accident that has left you with physical scarring (not just facial scarring either) that affects your mental health (I don't know if a professional would refer to it as body dysmorphia) you will probably be offered plastic surgery to reduce the scarring. I had a friend that I've lost touch with that I met when I was 15 that had a very big long scar down her spine from a medical procedure ( I'm sorry, I don't remember what condition she had) and she was very self-conscious about that scar. She was actually waiting on openings to get it to look at least a little less obvious with plastic surgery, the hospital offered to do it after the previous surgery to save her life. Most people wouldn't think about it as plastic surgery or are aware that someone would have gone through plastic surgery for that reason but it's still cosmetic surgery. Same thing applies to trans people. A trans mastectomy for example (removing your chest and making it look more male) usually takes two surgeons, one of them plastic surgeon. I don't know if people think too deeply into that but they are cosmetic surgeries, they just don't fall under the usual stereotype of extreme plastic surgery. They're body dysphoria related instead of dysmorphia related (I think?).

[@_gachaashleylol_3757]

I think that the 60 or 70% of the people are using plastic surgery as a way of help with their daily things, because of something that happened to them physically While the other percent want to look perfect, or pretty, or to fit the standard I think like.. 10% did get plastic surgery because they wanna stand out or some goal

[@beautifulblackbeauty8641]

You, my friend, are a brilliant writer! Love your topics. You have “IT”. Many thanks!

[@tinalevesque5772]

Instead of allowing this woman to get plastic surgery she should have been given mental help. No healthy minded person would do this. These ppl are victims to warped concepts of beauty. It's incredibly sad.

[@cwcpants140]

“This is how real women look” is so ironic coming from someone who has had more plastic than a Barbie doll.

[@RC.-]

If she was cremated her ashes would float

[@adk5997]

She looks unreal tbh Not in a good way

[@sierralovat5498]

She sounds like she struggles to speak

[@cjelavich]

That movie looks thought provoking. While I don’t love everything that comes with a more individual-focused culture, I do enjoy unique, creative, and healthy forms of self-expression.

[@AC-os1he]

There was a twilight zone episode similar to this.

[@sydneygrace3745]

Wasn’t the twilight episode where the woman is turned into a pig or something?

[@AC-os1he]

@@sydneygrace3745 All the normal ppl had a pig snout but she was beautiful, and she was trying to have surgery to look like them but it didn't work. It was basically a 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' episode.

[@that.neurodivergent]

Well put

[@lucyandecember2843]

o.o

[@londonstrange7542]

That man looks genuinely terrified in scientifically intrigued at the same time

[@itsme2084]

That horror short film u showed is amazing btw

[@codymartin1811]

Can we normalize the normal human body!! With flaws and lumps and bumps. We are all beautifully broken and we should celebrate that instead!! Great video 🌟

[@skrrtskrrt2410]

The fact that you think normal human bodies that have lumps and bumps as flaws or "beautifully broken" makes me think you still have that perfect beauty standard mindset despite thinking that normal bodies should be "celebrated" when it should be just as normal as daily life stuff.

[@codymartin1811]

@@skrrtskrrt2410 Wrong!!!!! Your missing the point. We live in a plastic world. My body doesn't fit here.

[@lawrencelopez9839]

glasses.

[@blaNkEuLa]

@@skrrtskrrt2410 I think they meant that since a lot of people see these lumps etc as "flaws" it should be actually considered normal. "can we normalize the normal human body" as in no human body is perfect and flawless. It's a good take i think. Why try to be "perfect" in a world where everyone at the end of the day is "imperfect".

[@user-dv9xx3yy8v]

We're moving to another direction now, sad to say. Plastic surgeries are being glamorized

[@barneypaodoce]

I feel like people like Natasha have a very deep problem with normalcy. Some people don't understand that being normal is okay, and they do things like these to add to their "personality". I know she does what she wants with her body, but I wonder if she's ever been to a therapist.

[@electriksnake]

There is truly so much beauty in accepting your life can be simple & inexpensive. In being satisfied with what you’re given and can give. Because if you have little health issues, have friends or family, food and shelter, and some means to have fun and see beauty around you, or connect to nature…wow…you are rich. Just to not be suffering in life makes one very rich and is worth being satisfied with.

[@neoqwerty]

@@electriksnake Ehhhh, I've got those and I still want to body-mod. Mostly because I see my body as a canvas. It's up to me to mold and shape it as I want it to be, because I'm not doing it for others, but for myself. The key point is that I'm doing it _for me_ and I don't factor in other people's opinions. And also I have a pretty solid grasp on biology and what the consequences of something are, and I'm not taking any BS "you must suffer to be beautiful/suffer for your art" masochistic view, either. I consider it my investments, instead of buying a bunch of expensive decorations and merch and sprucing up my place I spruce myself up and commission people to draw on me instead of drawing on paper or digital canvases.

[@peanutwho]

What you Talked about in this video really reminded me of a bookseries I read in like 10th grade. It's called "Uglies" by Scott westerfeld

[@pauligrossinoz]

I wanted to stop watching .... but .... I just couldn't look away. The whole video! 😯

[@Krystal109]

A lot of these extreme cases are body dysmorphia or plastic surgery addiction... I definitely don't think you can judge a society based on the crap you see in the entertainment industry or these crazy tv shows that focus on outrageous people. In general tho, everyone wants to fit in and conform to not feel like an outcast, however, there is a line that one shouldn't cross just to fit in. It's different for everyone.

[@yeyejen777]

I think most cosmetic works boil down to body dysmorphia, someone who looks fine will still go and get "this and that" bigger or smaller or whatever. I've been a victim of it myself and am so glad I didn't get anything done, would have felt demeaning to myself.

[@lucyandecember2843]

o.o

[@nonenone9892]

Impressive you are in everyone's head and Know everyone! It's ignorant when people assume what they watch and the people that they know=the whole world I have never want to fit in. In general I never had the opportunity to as a young child because of glaring differences but I've always been to my own drum. How sad and limiting it would be to have such a ridiculous fear, you could potentially deny your authentic self. How old are you by the way ?maybe you're speaking from the perspective of somebody still in high school or just emerging from high school. That would make more sense.

[@Krystal109]

@@nonenone9892 It's actually basic psycholgy... it can be trying to fit in through physical traits or by acting a certain way, but it's still the desire to not be an outcast. Maybe check yourself first instead of thinking that the comment is purely talking about only what is presented in the video.

[@yihaw149]

In a way, it's a turn off (plastic surgery) because it presents a deceptive version of oneself. Imagine you were selecting a mate and their appearance is the first thing that attract you to them immediately. Naturally, most of us are programmed and wired to select the best looking mate who possesses good genetics. Now we can't rationalise it but once we know what we think is beautiful is fake, it immediately devalues the object that we used to idolise. I know I feel the same way knowing my favorite celebrities got work done to look like they do now. Same way certain models or natural beauties are envied is because it's rare and seem unattainable. Nowadays, even the average masses can get work done and look beautiful, beauty is no longer a rare commodity, which I find is quite scary.

[@lunnalocca9376]

Natasha is actually hilarious. She has a great sense of humor despite all the surgery and wanting more. She seems like fun to be around

[@BintuKabbahoney]

She really does have a bomb personality and I’m glad bc you gotta have thick skin and confidence to walk around with all those surgeries

[@naturesdomain]

I’m in my 30s and have had cosmetic surgery once. It was to even my eyelids since one has been deformed since childhood because of a horrible eye infection. It genuinely has made me happier about myself but it’s still sad to me that I needed to alter my face in order to like it. I don’t want anything else done as I am genuinely content with myself.

[@sarabear8087]

“To know and love ourselves and others well is the most difficult and meaningful work we’ll ever do.” ~Sleeping at Last

[@SaheeliRai]

In Germany there are a lot of individualistic people, colourful hair, Tattoos, piercings, stuff like that. But on the other hand there are also a lot of people that want to fit in, like all dresses the same,same haircut and color. It really depends how you want to be and what friends you have

[@nicki4608]

i think it also really depends on where you live, it's easier to dress more individualistic and "extra" when you live in a big city like berlin or hamburg. if you live in a smaller city everyone is going to stare like crazy and maybe even whisper or make rude comments, so you'd probably try to not stand out to avoid that. idk what's up with germans, but german people stare soooo much at everything that's "outside the box" and it's so uncomfortable

[@SaheeliRai]

@@nicki4608 I've lived in a small city with colorfull hair and yes, they stare, but I just didn't care what others thought about my appearance any more.

[@samday414]

The Korean film reminded me of a book I read called pretty. It’s set in the future and at the age of 18 everyone gets a free plastic surgery to make them perfect and makes them look the same as everyone else. Those under 18 are kept away from the the rest of society in special zones until they have had their surgery. It’s a good but weird read.

[@GoldenSun10]

Omg, was it part of that trilogy Uglies, Pretties, and finally Perfects? Now that you reminded me of that, I have to say it was ahead of its time.

[@janedeauxxx]

Uglies/Pretties/Specials/Extras (series) by Scott Westerfeld

[@2handle.]

I remember reading it when I was 17 and identifying sooooo much

[@ASimpleHorse]

I remember that book! Forgot the title. Put me off plastic surgery as a teen and can same it's still working it's magic 12 years later...

[@sarawinardi6745]

I love that series

[@piesayshello5509]

you know what the more I see stuff like this the more i like my body. Like yeah it not perfect, i don't do sport that much anymore, and i don't have a super good skin care routine but at list I don't look like a plastique doll. Thanks for you work.

[@micapowder1221]

I have more of a “live your life” mentality when it comes to plastic surgery- except when it could risk your life or impacts your quality of life. Like BBLs are dangerous as hell, and there’s gotta be some impact to quality of life after 5

[@amethyst_cat9532]

I wonder a bit about her later life. If she ever needs a wheelchair (ER visit, medical incident, regular aging, etc) would she need a custom one so she doesn't fall out? Is she able to find comfortable chairs? Could it ever interfere with medically necessary surgeries and/or medications she might need later in life? If she ever needs a caretaker, will the changes to her body make things difficult? Where does she buy clothes?!

[@Annie.747]

I also fell for this plastic surgery craze, you could say. I got a boob job @ 22 years old. I thought I would love it but I didn’t. They were huge and restrictive. I couldn’t work out, move, sleep, etc... like I wanted. Fast forward to 25 years old, I got my implants removed and had to have a minor revision surgery while they took out the implants. Bottom line, I will never be the same. Also $ lost. I’m grateful that comparatively, I got a more minor plastic surgery enhancement to other surgeries. Ppl should think more about the “what if’s” surrounding a less than desired outcome from their plastic surgery. Know the risks but above all, love yourself. It may take you to change permanently to figure out that the old you was so awesome.

[@carlycrays2831]

Nobody wants to talk about the reality: having larger boobs suck. It's harder to find clothes and yes, they get in the way. And they get sore and all that.

[@KF-zb6gi]

@@carlycrays2831 Ugh agree finding the right size for a bra is so difficult

[@Rumade]

I'm a 32F and it's terrible. I'm so jealous of women who can wear clothes without a bra, workout with a basic sports bra instead of strapping myself down with engineering

[@Caterpillarnook]

thats one of the reasons im planning on getting a breast reduction, along with the pain, a big chest is awful in daily life

[@dickottel]

I'll never understand getting bigger boobs. I've always had big ones and it sucksssss. Pain, sweat, expensive bras, clothes look bad or overly sexual.

[@AmbiCahira]

I'm Swedish and she's veeeeeery rare. Swedes have a word called lagom which means not too much not too little; just right and we are usually lagom in every way. If you look at Zara Larsson, Pewdiepie, the Skarsgård brothers etc you can see that people tend to look more natural even if they're celebrities. She is mega Oli vibes.

[@user-wr8bs8vx9r]

Me: How much should I put on your plate? Them: Just lagom is fine 😇☺️🙃 Me internally: WHAT. HOW MUCH IS LAGOM FOR THIS PERSON. WHAT DO YOU MEAN???? Ngl this was an issue in my life when I was younger 😂🥲 My lagom isn't your lagom! 😁 (someone reading, communicate with the person. "is this ok? Or more?")

[@lucyandecember2843]

o.o

[@nawal10]

True and they're natural and average. Nothing crazy and nothing too much going on! Less is more!

[@beany1944]

She and Oli will make a good couple.

[@keyon659]

Zara Larsson is one of the prettiest celebrities I've ever seen

[@earthdimensionm1643]

Hi I’m European and I’m here to say we all actually get multiple bbl surgeries, it’s a tradition to get your first one on the day you graduate kindergarten😊

[@cathleancat6415]

AHHHH UR ALMOST AT 1MIL LETS GOOO

[@kdcanbarely]

America has a very "look at me, it's my turn for fame" pop culture, so it's not surprising that many people are desperately looking for the "perfect" look to outshine the others before

[@greenbeancasserole2937]

That's so true. Everyone here gets plastic surgery to look perfect and stand out from the rest. They want to be idolized for matching the beauty standards, but they don't realize that if everyone else is getting the same plastic surgery to look perfect, then no one stands out. I noticed this is happening with celebrities and influencers who are all beginning to look the same as more and more get the ponytail face-lift, Kardashian body, and fake lips.

[@MariaPaula-uw3ds]

Not in America, but in USA

[@ejedwards1678]

@@greenbeancasserole2937 who is everyone? You'd think living in this country for almost three decades I'd know someone who had plastic surgery because they wanted to be more like the influencers but I don't.

[@ejedwards1678]

It's definitely not an American movie but go off about one place in the world as if it's not a global problem queen.

[@greenbeancasserole2937]

@@ejedwards1678 daddy chill

[@s.8186]

We're only individuals to a certain extent. Things like plastic surgery we do because of the society/for the society. No one really does it solely for themselves.

[@bluegirl278]

@hello true, but most of those have medical reason, even though they are cosmetic. (Large breast can cause back pain and posture trouble, loose skin can cause painful friction, etc) If you are doing something simply to change your appearance, it is hard to argue that it is solely for yourself since society dictates the beauty standard.

[@bluegirl278]

@@leonardo.diCATio of course it’s more complicated than what I said. And in the cases of accidents the surgery is usually considered reconstructive plastic surgery, which I fully support. I was just saying that a lot of the surgeries themselves are designed to make a person fit societal beauty standards. Everyone thinks differently but we all have been impacted in one way or another by things like history, the media, and our social circles

[@starnighty4996]

@@leonardo.diCATio stop digging yourself in a hole. Most people who get cosmetic surgery are doing it to appear attractive to other people.

[@anitachamberlain3391]

@@starnighty4996 That's not digging a hole. Those are valid points.

[@shellyf5456]

@@starnighty4996 If that's what you think then everything you do, what you choose to wear, how you style your hair, or any other body modifications whether it be make up/tattoos/hair dye is not really an individual choice but moreso to appear attractive to other people.

[@sharonrose6210]

You’re hilarious. This was fun to watch 😂

[@user-kh5vw4wd8y]

My heart aches for natasha. She seems like a sweet soul who legitimately wants love but also seems like she's battling some demons. She was so beautiful and has completely disfigured herself, i hope she finds love and healing

[@herroyalawkwardness954]

Gurl can't even close her lips anymore. Hope she stops getting any more additional surgeries. She will be the one paying the price as she gets older.

[@maddaliiinchen]

I‘m european and studied abroads in EU - I thought that cosmetic surgeries are uncommon until my friends told me about nosejobs and boob jobs etc. Turned out many of the norwegian girls had little tweaks done. Also regular tanning studio visits and hair bleaching. So the „scandinavian beauty“ isn‘t as natural as many think 😅

[@pipkin5287]

Idk, it's not terribly common in Denmark to have these types of procedures done, and I don't know if it's super common in Sweden or Norway either? Like, I don't think that your average person thinks about having a nose job. Bleaching hair is as fashionable as dying it dark brown. At least in Denmark, the majority of the native population have dark blond hair.

[@kathrinlorenzen8165]

It’s a lot about the circles you’re in I guess

[@neledam]

Norwegian here and the tanning and hair bleaching is pretty normal I think, but at least in my circles actual cosmetic surgical procedures are pretty rare

[@J43RH]

I also thought it was uncommon until a colleague of mine had some lip filler and everyone started talking about botox and sich

[@haamsandwich]

I LOVE YOUR HAIR!!!!!!

[@hyobro8392]

I would say it really depends what part of Europe you're looking at I lived in rural France all my life, and I've seen a lot of pressure to conform to society. That being said the big cities I've been to so far have a more "individualistic" / "just be yourself" atmosphere.

[@Revengestar]

When I was 15 years old I had otoplasty, blaming my ears for all the bullying at the awful school I was attending. The recovery took 2 months and it was brutal, don't let anyone tell you the ''you are up and back to your activities next day'', I had to sleep like a vampire in a casket because turning around would mess the results. Fast forward to new year, I had new ears and the bullies found new things to harass me about. Looking back, I needed my narcissistic parents to tell me that I am good enough and not pay for stupid, unnecessary surgery or to at least change schools, but you know how it is with narcissists, you are never good enough and no matter what happens you will be blamed. I believe that a lot of people like Oli have similar traumatic experiences as me and use plastic surgery to cope and I was lucky to not end up a plastic surgery addict. I fully support plastic surgery when it's needed (for example for reconstructive reasons, when it severely impacts a person's life etc), but not to mask other psychological problems. Karma does exist though, because the same mean girls who bullied me at now broke, disheveled, nobodies in the same JerkWater Heights we attended school at. Oh well.

[@cherrelleg8276]

Sorry that happened to you. All you can do is be a better parent when you have your own kids.

[@tomokokurokiirl]

@@cherrelleg8276 or even better to not have kids at all instead of bringing more humans into this horrible world. even if she becomes the best parent on earth there’s still a chance for the kid to be bullied and traumatized by other people like she was, or for the mental illnesses her parents had to be passed down, or to become sick or disabled or addicted or poor…

[@SeriSeashell]

"When you have your own kids"? It's "if", not when. Stop pushing children onto everyone

[@ReiAnikaAyanami]

​@@SeriSeashell bro it's just a single reply, they're not "pushing children onto everyone", calm down maybe? what a strange overreaction.

[@evelynnnyt]

@@ReiAnikaAyanamiwelcome to the new generation of people. Thought policing and picking apart words to twist them. How do they live??

[@overgrownghost]

This reminds me of an episode of The Twilight Zone called "Eye of the Beholder" where this lady kept trying to get surgeries to look like everyone else to be considered "normal" It's a fascinating take on how you perceive yourself in a society where everyone looks a certain type of way.

[@Artemisnr]

I know EXACTLY which ep ur talking bout

[@Rise876]

Exactly. I came to the comments to say the same thing.

[@celestecelestial90]

I’ve seen that episode and was just thinking about it also.

[@xxromanovaxx6682]

Or Number 12 Looks Just Like You

[@moongem4489]

@@xxromanovaxx6682 That episode inspired a young adult book series called Uglies where everyone gets a surgery to make them "pretty" at age 16 - but the surgery has a hidden and nefarious purpose controlled by the government.

[@lustyargonianmaid4071]

Ye r a cutie 💖 I love how you presented the information in this video, and I agree with your opinion! People should really just practice mindfulness and strive towards being as in tune with themselves as they can be. 🤗

[@MissSweetie]

I understand when people want to get something to boost their self esteem. But still, I really hate plastic surgeries lol

[@ninisdesk]

I think the sketchy guy probably “botched” her face so she looks very different from everyone else and the part where she gets her “perfect face” is her dreaming while in surgery.

[@thecoolintroverttv8381]

Thinking the same thing cause he did explain that when they give "that expression", that they gave her at the end is a reaction to something bad/negative 😕

[@fatoumfatoumeh]

11:06 damn she’s only 27! I thought she was middle aged…that’s some bad plastic surgery, she was so pretty before.

[@lamar1423]

I so agree! OMG! This weird trend with symmetrical faces too. It's like wandering around in the Uncanny Valley.

[@electriksnake]

There is truly so much beauty in accepting your life can be simple & inexpensive. In being satisfied with what you’re given and can give. Because if you have little health issues, have friends or family, food and shelter, and some means to have fun and see beauty around you, or connect to nature…wow…you are rich. 😌 Just to not be suffering in life makes one very rich and is worth being satisfied with

[@DragonsOfSnow]

Natasha: Shows pic to surgeon of what she wants her lips to look like.. Surgeon: Um, Miss...this is a pic of a prolapsed colon. Natasha: Yes.

[@CaseyAvalon]

Omg lmao 🤣🤣

[@cherrelleg8276]

😂

[@theewildrose]

I will never be as pretty as a pink sock

[@Dark666Butterfly]

Omg you killed me hahaha

[@tiffanymcdaniels5652]

😂😂😂

[@Laolunzuo]

I see a lot of comments from fellow Europeans saying plastic surgery is less prevalent here, and while this may be true to a certain extent, I think they are overshooting the extent. If Europeans are said to favour a more natural look, then this will reflect in the plastic surgeons' philosophy, it's a business after all. This will lead them to cater to that preference, and by extension lead to the perception fewer people in Europe get plastic surgery done than what is actually the case. Those people who do undergo plastic surgery in this kind of cultural environment will also be less likely to tell of it to others. Additionally, most of the examples made in the comments seem to skew towards those kinds of procedures that are easier to notice, such as lip fillers. The mouth is one of the major elements of the face, second only to the eyes. We are wired to take note of even the most minute size and shape differences and how these compare to the rest of the face. However there is a wide variety of procedures involving other parts of the face, and many of them are significantly more difficult to notice due to the nature of the operation and the less attention paid to those parts of the face overall.

[@delusionalmilkshake]

i live in europe, plastic surgery is seen less disarable here. i know two girls who did their nose, one said it was for health, another one admits it was her own choice and for apparance, but they are done ''naturally''. if you looked at them, you would not notice their noses are fake.

[@causeofmyserendipity8562]

That is so true. Here surgeon say « the best surgery is the one you don’t notice », we’re really focused on small procedures and you won’t say outrageous surgery that often (except maybe on some moms from the 90s that got botched)

[@usl4689]

I think the biggest reason why obvious/intense plastic surgery and beauty procedures you need to keep topping up (fillers, Botox etc) are not popular in Europe is because most countries have fairly poor populations compared to prices of plastic surgery. I mean fillers will be around 150-200 euros for 1/2 sessions and minimum salary in most countries I’ve lived in is FAR less than a 1000 euros. With the majority of people earning less than a 1000 euros per month I’m not surprised people won’t do it. To top it up I think a lot of countries don’t have specialised plastic surgery clinics (and if they do they’re very expensive) so you go through a hospital but not every hospital offers plastic surgery so it’s difficult to access.

[@MariaPaula-uw3ds]

@@usl4689 well it's sad to say you're wrong... Brazil is one of the countries with more plastic surgeries done yearly (I think it's number 3, after USA and South Korea) and the minimum wage here is waaaay less than that kkkrying (also, the majority of population, according to recent studies, have a monthly income of 3 minimum wages or less)

[@sarac.9678]

Exactly!

[@kiris1323]

Great video

[@jollymycology6391]

12:54 the captions are (unintentionally?) hilarious - “I’m a country boy… she’s a seated girl” lol she sure is! 5-6x over!

[@matilda_stay7053]

I'm from Germany and I'd say nearly everyone here doesn't get plastic surgeries, because most of the doctors here won't do that unless it's for health reasons and many people prefer not to stand out here, because they are afraid that they'll get judged and picked at.

[@krakenemoji]

Komisch, da wo ich wohne trifft das definitiv nicht zu…

[@bk-zp8qv]

Nicht in Berlin

[@matilda_stay7053]

@@krakenemoji Oh, wo wohnst du denn?

[@minnhibanana3943]

die fliegen dafür alle in die türkei, dubai etc.

[@krakenemoji]

@@matilda_stay7053 Düsseldorf. Im Vergleich zu anderen Länder, wie der USA beispielsweise, würde ich dir aber definitiv zustimmen. Aber auch hier, vor allem unter den jüngeren Generationen, hat sich dieser Trend etabliert.

[@Summer-fb7gb]

I believe we shouldn't treat people any different because of their plastic surgery, everyone deserves the same respect regardless of their appearance. But I also definitely believe we should not be encouraging plastic surgery. I've had cosmetic stuff done myself, but I wouldn't tell others they should go do it. I've also wanted certain plastic surgery in the past that I wouldn't want now... Addressing mental health is so important.

[@3bydacreekside]

No, respect is earned. I don't respect anyone I don't trust with my life.

[@elizabeth-up3en]

thank you for your great content

[@Hippic]

As a Scandinavian, No! She is on her own when it comes to looking like that the rest of us is laughing at her! 😂