The Evolution of The Try Guys

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0:00 ---- Intro
6:30 ---- The "Buzzfeed" Try Guys
14:57 ---- Expanding The Brand
25:50 ----- Cracks in the Foundation
31:20 ----- Shifting Content
35:50 ---- The "Downfall"
44:45 ----- The Response
50:00 ---- Final Thoughts/ SNL
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[@JamesWelsh]

She’s back 🥹💜

[@genevievehebert-carr5047]

Right? I go between your channel and Hannah’s every day as I work. There’s something about your contents that is so insightful, intelligent and calming. Thank you! ❤

[@whereisconstance]

Omg James and Hannah in one place!!! 🖤💜

[@kuroroedamame]

Omg james

[@missmatti]

I know 🥹 Hannah was dearly missed 💜

[@KRIZ·TEE]

Unfortunately yes

[@decayingvoid]

Everyone wake up the queen has posted

[@decayingvoid]

AHHH SHE SAW MY COMMENT Big W but seriously I am so happy to see you back love

[@shinstantramen5169]

We're up!!

[@pinkbubble8869]

☕ up and ready -- here for this!

[@Mari-il4bw]

Yes I’ve been waiting with baited breath

[@morganhoffman6253]

Was actually about to go to bed and simply cannot now

[@NinjaCupcakeAttack]

Hard disagree that Alex isn't at fault. She's a grown adult and made the decision to cheat on her fiance. It's not like she was some poor fresh faced intern; she was featured a fair amount on the channel and had a good position in the company. Obviously that doesn't excuse Ned abusing a position of power to have an affair with an employee or the public backlash she's getting, but she's not faultless in this scenario; the world isn't as black and white as that.

[@andromeda7758]

I don't blame Alex for the consequences that Ned has had to deal with because of the affair. However, she is still responsible for the pain she caused to her own partner. I acknowledge the power imbalance in hers and Ned's affair but she should have known the pain it would cause for her fiance.

[@hotsexyangel]

And the pain she caused Ariel too, cuz she was at least acquaintances with her if not work-friends

[@ramshaimam]

Quick note about how the Try Guys were able to keep their name after leaving: In one of BuzzFeed's articles about the Ned scandal, they disclosed that BuzzFeed is a shareholder and has a financial stake in Second Try LLC.

[@ElfInTheFlowers]

That makes so much sense!

[@wildboywifey6485]

That makes sense. For some reason they didn't say that when they first left. They just said each one of them had to pay an undisclosed stupid-high amount of money to buy the name from Buzzfeed.

[@alyssabrown-carleton6173]

Ahhh that makes sense

[@alyssabrown-carleton6173]

@@wildboywifey6485 maybe they did but still had to keep buzzfeed as a shareholder

[@grumpysandfrog]

Thanks for clarifying! I knew Buzzfeed was protective of their IP (see: Ladylike) so I was always curious how this happened.

[@emmastanton112]

I think some of the hate that Alex is getting has to do with just how involved Ariel has been with this company. She's not some obscure "wife at home." These two interacted with some degree of regularity. Alex was also directly involved in videos in which the premise was for Ariel to share her deep insecurities about herself. To listen to this woman talk about the things about herself that make her physically insecure, and then sleep with that woman's husband is just so gross on Alex's part.

[@SierraSmith306]

Still, Alex was a victim too. Their is no consensual relationship between a superior and subordinate. Ned abused his power.

[@SierraSmith306]

The other details don’t mean much in light of that daunting fact.

[@emmastanton112]

@@SierraSmith306 And you are 100% entitled to how you view the situation. I think we both agree that Ned's behavior was egregious, but I think we disagree as to whether Alex bears any responsibility. In my own opinion, this is a very specific circumstance in which there is more grey area and nuance to consider. In the way I view it, she is not 100% a victim without any agency. You may see it differently and that is absolutely fine. It's an important conversation to have.

[@gacktist00]

@@SierraSmith306 Im old enough to see many employee volunteerly cheat with their boss. some of them want some previlige, some of them just want to cheat someone. idk some cheaters are just cheat all the time.. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ i don't mean Alex is not the victim, cos i don't know her, but some people are just willing to cheat lol my friend worked a online clothing shop once, and one of her colleague was really bad at work and lazy. but after she cheated with the owner, he only listened to her and the company started mess up so quick. many of good employees and my friend left that company asap

[@marbles9176]

exactly, even if they werent besties she definitely knew her.

[@elijolesy]

I think the reason everyone loved them from the beginning is because they’ve always been transparent, always been open and genuinely, and always truly loved each other as friends and almost brothers. And the way they handled everything just reinforced that.

[@Iwasjustwondering89]

You calling Shane Dawson’s content “documentary-esque vlog things” has me rolling and simultaneously heavily nodding in agreement.

[@minemouse1994]

Would love to hear your “evolution of” insight into the vlogbrothers, John and Hank Green. The amount of content they’ve been able to put out, and the growth they’ve had is incredible. 🤞

[@kailahprice6792]

yessss and I love them too

[@amykh7647]

Great idea!

[@elif6908]

Also the things they’ve created, not only Crash Course and other channels but Vidcon! Like they’ve institutionalised KZbin almost 😂

[@caitlinmarie8261]

Yes!

[@clogsworth456]

YES!! they created vidcon!!! among other amazing accomplishments!! and their accomplishments outside KZbin are amazing too!!!

[@caleynee822]

Taylor releasing midnights 🤝 Hannah posting an evolution of video: my serotonin 📈

[@CareBear17]

Yes 🙌❤️

[@ChloeTheePayne]

TRULY, shoutout to everyone else who also hit pause on their umpteenth replay of midnights to watch this video 💙💙💙

[@Maggiemd333]

They’re both single handedly curing my seasonal depression 🥰🥰

[@pinkbeachbike]

SAME

[@nataliesclassroom7175]

I need Hannah’s take on midnights!!

[@sofcarolq]

Hannah not to be ironic bringing up our own parasocial relationships but I got emotional seeing you uploaded 😭 I legit missed you. I would absolutely love a "rise and fall" of buzzfeed video I think their approach to making a brand to produce content is fascinating

[@kelsynicole9135]

Yes to Buzzfeed video! Their channel was so popular at one point, it would make a great Evolution Of video!

[@literallylaly]

I beg to differ on Alex being exempt from receiving hate. She knew exactly who Ariel was when she started having an affair with Ned, her husband. Alex was also in a long term relationship herself. She’s a shitty person for cheating on her partner with a married man whose wife she also worked with.

[@junecooper7568]

So many females think shes the victim, well shes not. Alex has a "history" of cheating. Both of them decided to sleep around hurting both of their loved ones in the process. Saying shes the victim is invalidating their spouses it's disappointing to say the least.

[@purpleenchilada]

💯

[@violeth6140]

So originally I agreed with you but try looking at it this way. There are 2 possibilities here: 1. Their relationship was consensual, and alex is therefor equally to blame-- she did all of this by her own choice w/o manipulation and therefor is clearly in the wrong. 2. Their relationship was not consensual due to a power imbalance. (Ex: Ned wanted to be with her and she only agreed bc her job was on the line if she were to say no). In this situation she wouldn’t really be to blame and would actually be a victim While we can argue about which situation is more likely, and while I personally agree that #1 is more likely, if there is even a chance that it could be #2 wouldn’t it be absolutely terrible for us to come after her? That’s like someone accusing someone else of rape, there’s technically a chance that they are lying, but we automatically have to believe the victim due to the implications of us not believing them when they were truly terribly harmed or traumatized

[@Amsayy]

@@junecooper7568 most "females" want to hold her accountable. Almost everyone talking about this wants her to be held accountable

[@junecooper7568]

@@Amsayy I seriously doubt that.

[@LukeAlexander]

Welcome back Hannah, hope you're doing well ❤

[@RedSpade37]

Hey Luke! Another CozyTuber supporting another CozyTuber? Love it!

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

@@RedSpade37 True knows True! Luke seems like a supportive person. Wholesome sighting!

[@megshep]

I'm so incredibly happy to see you back 💕 I'll comment something relevant to the video after I've finished it but...just know you've got a bunch of love and support from the Glowsticks here.

[@smokey_glow]

💓💓💓💓💓💓

[@abookishmess]

I love the term glow sticks 🤣

[@megshep]

@@abookishmess I cannot take credit for that one. But it's quite possibly one of my favourite fandom nicknames haha

[@noodlepoodlegirl]

I could not have said it better myself! Happy to be a glowstick!

[@simplycleva]

Omg the Queen is back. What a pleasant surprise!

[@britnicox3929]

Something to note here that I only recently discovered from SWOOP’S video: Alex was a fan of the try guys when working at BuzzFeed and there was an implication from her comments that people under the main talent do not speak to the people higher up in the company. They took Alex with them when they left BuzzFeed and I find it hard to believe that that dynamic still wasn’t a thing or at least present in her mind, on top of being a literal fan. It puts more of an icky feeling to the relationship

[@kittycattt93]

Ned's whole personality being his wife just shows he had little to give personality wise lmao

[@Ashbrash1998]

I am SO GLAD that you actually mentioned how integral the guys' partners are to the brand. Most of the other videos barely even mention them at all and ignore the fact that they do work for the company as well, and just label them as the partner.

[@seemsfishy23]

You are so smart and so insightful and so succinct. I find that lots of tea and internet culture channels do this thing where they phrase simple or rudimentary ideas as if they are super deep, as well as bizarre roundabout repetition in their sentence structure to sound smart while talking about silly things. It’s so refreshing to me that you talk like a normal-sounding, conversational, very intelligent person. There’s an ease to the way you speak while maintaining your deep insight that I find so unique and wonderful! Missed you!

[@noodlepoodlegirl]

I absolutely love your comment: I completely agree! It gets frustrating watching videos with really interesting subject matter that seems geared toward preteens in their approach with language and presentation. This is beyond refreshing, and plays a huge role in my dedicated subscribership! If I could only find other channels that took this approach, I’d love it. My search continues… Lol

[@AS-zz2ke]

100% agree! A lot of tea and internet culture channels (to borrow your expression) stretch the same fact and sentence to last for a whole video. It is very obvious that they are too lazy to do a lot of research to talk about the before but they still want to fill a video to get money. So they use one small fact that may or may not be controversial to fill the video, maybe add some reactions they found on twitter at the end, add a clickbait title and bam. Finished their lazy, money hungry video.

[@jennyparker3890]

This is random but on a lot of videos I see people talking about ariel being pregnant and losing their health insurance, full house renovation during the pregnancy, but i dont see people talking about how she ended up going into labor FOUR weeks early!! I swear this whole thing stressed her out so much she went into labor honestly a lot of times in hindsight it seemed like this time of life was so hard for her 😭

[@jesterbonbon]

“I think this situation has only been good for the try guys” Honestly, I agree 100%. I never watched the try guys before this point (Keith and Grant from College Humor being doppelgängers and the sperm count episode cited by Hbomberguy in his soy boys video was really my only exposure) but seeing the responsibility displayed and all of the love for them and their handling of the situation has made me want to finally dive into their content. I want to support them during this trying (haha) time, and I’m sure others must feel the same.

[@allisonjackson6142]

As someone who has watched them from the beginning…. Ive stopped watching them only because its boring. Its just Keith and Zach and Lewberger shoved down our throats

[@Anais2002pr]

Thank you for the video. Your content is always on point. I agree with 99% of what you said except the fact that you feel Alex Herring has no blame in the situation. She isn't a child. She is 36 years old, she was in a long term relationship, and she was about to get married. Just like Ned monetized his wife guy persona, Alex was starting to do the same with her upcoming nuptials. That must be the reason why her own fiancé exposed them both. I understand that there is a power dynamic, but Alex worked with both Ned and his wife. She understood what Ned brought to the table when it came to the Try Guys. She probably hung around Ariel pretty frequently, and she still had no problem crossing that line. I guess I would cut her more slack if there was proven quid pro quo between the two. But I just think they were bored with their long term relationships and found flirting on videos, while both knowing they were fooling around to be very exciting. They both suck. But Ned will likely never truly recover because he's a fraud. I wish them both a lifetime of well deserved infamy.

[@paperigangsta]

this is a good point! also calling her a girl, not a woman makes her sounds like she's a 21 year old fresh employee, not a grown adult who has a long work history with the people involved.

[@atesah]

I don’t think they both deserve a “lifetime” of infamy…. that’s nuts. The current criticism is understandable but hopefully they can learn, make amends to the people they’ve hurt and carry on with their lives without this scandal defining their whole existence. wtf a goddamn lifetime

[@intothemystic5223]

I'm actually really glad you're making this video because I had never heard of them until the Ned drama.

[@gothicxromantic]

As someone that’s watched them since middle school, that’s so wild to me. KZbin is so strange in that there can be super successful creators with millions of followers the algorithm just never recommends.

[@SkihaseHH]

@@gothicxromantic Same! Especially since Eugene's Coming Out was a rather big deal in 2019.

[@sacgeekgirl]

Same here. Just saw 1 or two memes on IG when it hit the news.

[@haleymist09]

Same. Ned who? But I was Smokey's 1hr vids on everyone and everything lol

[@MsSilviaIvette]

I thought I was alone in this. 😅

[@cassf7386]

I’ll be honest, Alex is a full grown adult. She doesn’t need to be babied because she knowingly had an affair with a guy with a wife and kids and she herself had a fiancé. She’s a bad person and hurt so many people with her actions. Neds terrible don’t get me wrong and his hate is justified but hers is too.

[@junecooper7568]

Right it takes two to fucking tango. They both deserve the hate that they are getting.

[@carbonatedPigeon]

If anything, there needs to be more Alex hate lol

[@ShashaStudios]

100% wrong on so many levels. 1. The only person to say the relationship was consensual was Ned. No one has come out and stated how it actually went down. So don’t assume based off of that shitty man’s words. 2. Ned was her HR, he was her boss, he signed her checks 3. The try guys have come out and stated not to harass anyone involved. Imagine your mistakes being broadcasted everywhere and millions of people are judging you. That level of judgement and then harassment can push anyone to suicide. Leave Alex and Ned the fuck alone. No one is babying them when they say “don’t harass them”. And finally, Strangers on the internet < the people in your life. Trust that everyone involved is getting the punishment they deserve off the internet. Listen to the people in the actual situation (aka the try guys) and respect that they don’t want Alex to be harassed online

[@rei-yg9eu]

yeah not only that, she was also in a relationship with someone for over ten years!!!!!!! and she knows Ned has a wife and kids! and she still does that!!!!!!!!

[@junecooper7568]

People defending her for the actions she has done is invalidating her spouse and Ned’s but they don’t want to hear that. Besides she admitted to almost cheating before. I see some women will stand for other women regardless of their actions.

[@JadelynCheng]

Miles, their podcast producer, made a good point regarding the SNL sketch, “There were so many ways/opportunities to make jokes about this situation and they chose the ONE wrong take.”

[@danijadedd]

I literally high pitch screamed when I got this notification. You are so so loved by us parasocial glow sticks. I hope you are well. 💜

[@videoessaysmcgee]

IM SO GLAD YOU’RE BACK!!! I hope you’re doing well. Much love🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽

[@nella_paulina]

I feel like jacksfilms deserves an Evolution of video, he's been in the KZbin game since forever, he's done it all, reinvented himself and his content, his series kept being the same but with new fun additions and gimmicks that made them feel fresh for both viewers and Jack himself.

[@manic_girl]

And when the world needed her most, she returned Also just a note if Hannah sees this: never ever feel bad for taking time off for you! Just making a meme. We will always be here :)

[@ThePeachGirlDiaries]

THE QUEEN IS BACK ❤️ I'm so happy you posted. I've missed your content so much. You actually inspired me to post my own content on KZbin. You are absolutely glowing btw.

[@ChloeTheePayne]

same here, smokey glow was a big inspiration for me to start posting more on my channel too 💙 and um YES the queen is glowing, we love to see it!!!

[@ThePeachGirlDiaries]

@@ChloeTheePayne I'm so happy for her ❤️

[@cgl-osl_]

That pink shade is so gorgeous on her 🥰

[@ThePeachGirlDiaries]

@@cgl-osl_ it really does.

[@youlovelizz]

Since you've left I've started law school and I'm actually having a REALLY bad day today, so I'm so happy to see you back and it came just at the right time for me personally

[@noodlepoodlegirl]

We Stan a smart girl! I’m very proud of you, and please remember that “this too shall pass.” Sometimes women are strong because we have to be, so I’m sending you love, support and hope from Kentucky! Keep fighting, sister! You can do this!

[@evispalmer]

Congrats on starting law school! You’re going to do amazing. Even if you have a bad day or a few, just remember - YOU CAN DO THIS!

[@skynight4620]

Alex is a grown woman who actively knew she was not only hurting Ned’s wife and kids but also her fiancé. While Ned deserves most of the blame, Alex should also be held accountable for her actions

[@purpleenchilada]

💯

[@Madellien]

Please do the "the implosion of Buzzfeed" video! It sounds like it would be really fascinating. You are so good at these

[@justjill2896]

Hannah! I am so glad you’re back. I missed your content. You always make me think out of the box and make me think of different perspectives which I highly appreciate from your channel. I do not know why you left for so long, but all I know as a loyal subscriber we are here for you and know you always put a smile on my face when you upload and take me out of my crazy life for a few minutes with your videos.

[@raven.rosa.]

I was worried & concerned on why she hasn’t posted in a while so I did some searching & found something pretty heartbreaking. Unfortunately her & Charles have mutually decided to separate. She made a post on twitter about it. I was speechless but mostly prayed she was/is ok & holding strong as best she can

[@ashtonv1730]

@@raven.rosa. oh man :( that is so unfortunate.

[@poopyrose8180]

@@raven.rosa. I hope she's doing okay

[@raven.rosa.]

OMG I’M SO HAPPY YOU’RE BACK! Since the new season of Love Is Blind came out I’ve been saying to myself “Where is Smokey Glow?? 😭” I feel like we would agree on so much this season 😄 Anyway, so fucking happy you’ve graced us peasants with your return. We’ve missed you & all hope you’re doing ok. If not that’s ok too ❤ We truly care about you Hannah ❤ Also thank you for a nearly 1 hour video. We don’t deserve you QUEEN 💜

[@abigaelmacritchie1365]

I don't watch Love Is Blind but I love her commentary on the subject. I hope she will do a video on this season!

[@raven.rosa.]

@@abigaelmacritchie1365 I started watching it because of her & I hope so too. I don’t want to give her requests though because she’s going through a lot. I’ll just simply 🤞🏽☺️ that she does one

[@abigaelmacritchie1365]

@@raven.rosa. absolutely, I hope the fact she's posted this video means she's in a bit of a better place 🧡

[@not_them]

I do assign blame to the mistress. She hurt her own partner and the way she produced videos where Ariel was open about insecurities just makes me feel very uncomfortable. However, Ned's actions extend a lot further and he deserves more blow back.

[@spacecowbo7716]

i think to say that the woman deserves no blame is insanely black and white and shows no nuance. i agree that the relationship is inherently unhealthy and you can’t have full consent when there are power dynamics at play, but this woman is a grown adult who knew exactly what she was doing. she knew that she was hurting not only ned’s wife and kids, but also her own partner. both her and ned are completely responsible for their own actions. unless she was literally being forced or blackmailed into having a relationship with him, she made choices that were disrespectful, unethical and caused so much harm to people that did not deserve it. i do think ned is worse because he is older and superior to her in the workplace, but it’s not like this girl was forced into doing something that she didn’t know the consequences of. just because one person is more wrong doesn’t mean that the other person is completely absolved of any blame.

[@Psy_duckling]

I also think people aren’t acknowledging that the power dynamic wasn’t clear. Alexandra and Ned were coworkers at Buzzfeed for years, and the try guys kept bringing their old coworker friends back as guests and hired Alexandra as an old coworker. Plus ned was not the only boss. But their relationship was established more on the grounds of equals rather than being isolated as a inherent power disadvantage

[@aliroman8069]

This!

[@aliroman8069]

This!

[@sami8571]

Very well said!

[@ashleyblu-ray3755]

In a buzzfeed article recently they said that buzzfeed owned a stake in second try LLC. So I think it's likely that they were able to keep the IP in exchange for buzzfeed having a partial ownership in their company. Also welcome back queen!

[@lanagomisc.6005]

Great video! Small note: the employee that Ned cheated on, Alex, was engaged to another man. So while I totally agree that the workplace relationship was wrong and nonconsentual, she also cheated. They both suck :(

[@alirae3663]

As someone who used to follow the try guys-esp when they first broke from buzzfeed but had fallen off until the Ned drama-I’m loving that you are doing this. It’s definitely what I would have wanted to do myself but didn’t want to fall down the rabbit hall! Sooo thank you Hannah!!! And it’s good to see you ❤

[@leahmarie112]

I’m sorry but I just can’t with the “preying on a subordinate at work”. I understand the technicalities of what you’re saying and the math adds up for an abuse of power situation. But I think nuance exists and this *woman* did make her own decisions time and time again. She should not be getting hate and she’s certainly not the main responsible here. But she also participated in putting her own career at risk by having an exciting affair with her boss. She also woke up every day and made those choices that put herself and the company at risk. Not even mentioning the complete disregard for a wife and kids who were in the picture. She was not an underage, under experienced, naive little girl. I think the phrase “preying upon a subordinate” suggests that she was coerst into something.

[@petyatodorova4949]

I'm sure this has been requested a ton, but I would LOVE to see you do "The Evolution of Jenna Marbles".

[@Mikayla_Y_1998]

Hannah I just can’t believe how TALENTED YOU ARE AT STORYTELLING! They way you put this video together was perfect. You didn’t just want to make the same type of videos on the Try Guys that everyone is right now! That is what sets you apart and it shows, your video shows completely different things and shows the back BACK story. Which is definitely needed imo. I’ve watched a couple videos of people talking about the try guys and truthfully you watch one you watch them all. EXCEPT for yours! Once again you are amazing and thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos! Love ya!

[@dokayy]

couldn’t have said this better!!! i hope she knows how much we adore her

[@Mikayla_Y_1998]

@@dokayy thank you! & did you notice that I typed “ That DENTS you apart and I shows” 🤣🤣 instead of SETS omgggg. I’m going to edit the comment and fix it 🤡🤣

[@dokayy]

@@Mikayla_Y_1998 LOLLL YES i knew what you meant 🤣❤️

[@zorro......]

personally wouldnt go so far as to say it was nonconsensual because i think the implications of that are really big without sufficient concrete evidence. i do agree there is a power imbalance, and it puts into question the legitimacy of consent given by the woman. but i think that by assuming that she had no choice, we are making the assumption that she was helpless and forced to do this, when the reality is that she could have chosen to switch jobs, tell someone, and not cheat on her 10 year relationship. she is a grown woman - which isnt to say that she cant be coerced, but staying in it for so long that the news came out from external sources? she didnt have to stay in the job, in this situation, she had plenty of time and just as many opportunities to do whatever it took to regain her integrity and loyalty to her partner and she didnt do it at any point.

[@MostlyMom]

Hearing you say, “Maybe next year, we’ll do a round up…” has filled my heart with so much joy. Thanks for a new video Miss Smokey Glow!

[@sisiwx6154]

What a queen. Just slides back into content without an over explanation of how needed it was. I was here before 50k subscribers and while you took breaks, they were never long enough for the amount of time you have put into this channel. Glad you took care of yourself and are easing back into things. Hope life is settling down, and you're finding a new groove. ❤

[@imperfectlyblissful]

i have never clicked on a video so fast. so excited to hear your thoughts on everything and listen to the evolution! 😊

[@Gracewodag]

“Ned is basically like fight on site for 99% of the internet right now” YOOO hahaha

[@madelinefrances628]

"three of the four guys kind of felt like the same exact person" BAHAHAHA THIS IS SUCH A READ I LOVE IT

[@Likeicare96]

I remember hearing (maybe from their podcast) that it was ironically because of Ned that they maintained the IP. He was in a much higher position in buzzfeed than the rest of them, so when try guys was starting to be a series, and no longer a one off, he made sure that the control of the IP stayed with the Gus

[@tulip.in.a.cup.]

Ned was actually in charge of the Intern program at Buzzfeed!

[@sarahben8556]

Hannah! So nice to see you again !! I hope your break was restful and calming.

[@ro3927]

I agree that the focus should be on Ned, but you calling a grown ass woman a girl purposefully makes her seem like the victim. This was not an underage child that he went after this woman is in her 20s she was in a relationship for 10 years. I get it he’s definitely more at fault. But she had a partner who she betrayed. She harmed someone she claimed to love. But again, my biggest thing is is if this woman didn’t work for the company and she was just some random person he was having an affair with you would’ve never refer to her as a girl in this video you’re seemingly very purposefully using a child term to make this woman the victim and I’m not saying she isn’t a victim, although I mean she hasn’t spoken out publicly saying anything about the relationship being something she didn’t want to be a part of so like I do think it was consensual but more importantly, like she’s a grown ass woman and girl is used to demean grown ass women, or to victimize them.

[@Atomkaerna]

Just turned in an assignment that turned out way too mediocre for the amount of time i had been working on it. Watching this video made me feel a lot better! Love hearing about internet drama to distract myself from stress like that!

[@amandarhoads4640]

Listen, lots and lots of us have been watching all of the Try Guys "scandal" videos since the news broke, but this is, BY FAR, The Best video thus far, and I'm so here for it! I love that there's such a deep dive into this far beyond the baseline of "this is bananas because Ned is 'the wife guy'". You really dug into a lot of different perspectives on the individuals, the group, the history, the evolution, etc. and gave us such a broader picture of why this hurt so many fans so deeply, and I'd bet a lot of us couldn't exactly put our fingers on just why we were so bothered by this, but you really put words and understanding to this in a way that I think a lot of people *feel*, but have been unable to articulate as well as you've done here. Thank you!

[@Metroid250]

I actually gasped when you posted. I miss your content, yet I completely understand why it's not constant. No pressure. I'll be here to watch any new content uploaded. Wishing you the best 💕

[@venicecheng9407]

omg new video just when i was settling down for bed 🥺 thank you so much for this queen, cant wait to enjoy this

[@flamingbubblez]

I have to say I understand where you are coming from about the power imbalance however she does have some responsibility. She knew his wife, kids, and she didn’t care….there are so many choices we are faced w everyday and yes some are 💯 influenced by others but that does not make us blameless when we choose wrong and make mistakes and hurt other people.

[@kaitlyn9138]

I think the way they handled everything really brought my love of their content back again. I have started watching them again even though I haven’t watched since probably 2019.

[@saf2127]

Whaaaa, Ned and Ariel were doing relationship seminars??? This is a pet peeve of mine, when people with no educational credentials or professional experience in an area pretend to be experts in it and make a lot of money. See also: Rachel Hollis. (Whatever you pay to get bullshit advice from these people would buy you a lot of therapy sessions with an actual licensed counselor, just sayin’.)

[@nataliehubbard6568]

As a dedicated tryguys fan (and I’m not a “fan girl” type of person) I’m so ecstatic that my fav KZbin commentator is gonna be talking about them for a whole video!! I totally trust your summary/analysis :)) so happy to hear your voice!!

[@_michelleza]

Honestly, so happy you made this video!! Like I’ve watched so many videos on this topic (bc I’m a huge try guys fan), and I feel like everyone is always missing bits and pieces of either what happened or the severity of it. I feel like only you and KennieJD have really done this topic justice

[@angelbarnes3892]

I absolutely would love to see a video on the implosion of buzz feed. I have watched all the “why I left buzz feed” videos. A deep dive of buzz feed would definitely captivate my entire attention

[@brooklyntucker]

The way I gasped when I saw a Smokey Glow video in my subscription feed. I’m so happy you’re back, I hope you are doing okay ❤ You are so loved!!

[@unouni2548]

I feel like the Try Guys will have their own renaissance and I'm here for it! To be honest, as much as I enjoyed their videos, they felt a bit formulaic (like, of course they've always followed a formula, but lately it felt like they were relying too much on that and it lacked a bit of personality). Hopefully, this change will allow them to expand their experiences, and ours with them. (Also, I really enjoyed the Broadway video, it was *made* for Keith)

[@mmlee2213]

I'm ecstatic that you're back!! I hope your time off has been healing and relaxing, and that you know there's no pressure to come back if you're not ready. Also, as a fan of the Try Guys since they branched off, this is an excellent analysis of them. I do kind of disagree though. I 100% agree that a relationship with a power imbalance cannot be considered consensual and Ned took advantage of his position, but I do think Alex deserves some criticism solely because she also cheated. Granted, Ned is absolutely the one deserving hate, criticism, and pushback, but she also cheated on a partner she was with for 10+ years. The amount of criticism they deserve is obviously on very different levels and Ned deserves so much more of it. Imo, cheating is never okay

[@nimbusrex8404]

Delighted is an understatement, ECSTATIC TO SEE YOU BACK!!! I've been listening to your videos in the background when I'm doing my MA work aha. You mentioned Good Mythical Morning a lot....this could be a really interesting 'Evolution of....' videos, they've been around so long and their content has really evolved

[@baybiie]

MISSED YOU!!!!! so glad to see your post. hope you are doing okay and dont feel pressured to keep any type of upload schedule.

[@ginabennett2360]

I've been following them for years, but I love being able to get a full condensed version from you!!

[@samanthatownley5305]

I think that to say that the woman he had the affair with is just as culpable as Ned is incorrect. However she is absolutely not blameless. Right and wrong exists. If you know that someone is married and you have a relationship with them you are in the wrong. It is his marriage and he’s ultimately responsible for that, but it is a moral failing to be in a relationship with someone who you know is married. Power difference or not. To say that she’s completely blameless makes her also completely powerless. And that’s a line of thinking that I can’t subscribe to.

[@samruetman3427]

So happy that you’ve returned! Also buzz feed does still have stake in the game for try guys, when they were writing articles about the Ned situation that had disclaimers in the articles

[@kaseystack9392]

I’m so glad you’re back! I’ve been watching Love is Blind 3 and was so sad that I wouldn’t get a 1.5 hour analysis of it from you

[@UMR98]

Ummm the girl he cheated on his wife with was in a relationship. She was engaged and cheated on him. She’s not a victim when she’s also in the wrong for what she did, and she should be facing scrutiny for what she did.

[@isabellabass5346]

Alex is not a victim here. She was engaged and cheating on her partner, and I truly believe no one would be framing her as a victim if the genders were reversed.

[@emijunkai]

Considering how long Alex was in a relationship with her fiancé, I find it hard to not put a little blame on her. Ned takes majority blame for the power imbalance but if it's a non consentual relationship why didn't she tell her fiancé. I believe they were together for..., 10 years? After that long, you would think he would be the one she'd go to EVEN if she was being forced. The one she loved for YEARS. The one to seek comfort and help from(other than family). She would've known that a cheating relationship with Ned could destroy her long lasting relationship if it got out. If it was nonconsent, that relationship would be salvageable. It would look better on her to be the unwilling victim than the intentional cheater. Out of all the people in her life that could be most affected (ignoring Ariel, Try Guys, and the company), it would be her fiancé. She should have enough trust in her fiancé to not betray or abandon her. Enough trust to confide in during such a situation. So, why did her fiancé only find out through a fan? A YEAR LATER. To me, it looks like she kept it a secret and cheated. Fuck Ned. He's mostly to blame. But Alex isn't blame free.

[@plumislands]

i hope you’re doing okay queen 💜

[@littlebodybigheart888]

I was just stalking your KZbin account today!! I've missed you so much🥺💕 you pulled me thru making my depression food in my senior year a few months ago, so dumb but it really really helped me as I was depressed and hopeless, at least I would be distracted for an hour a day💕

[@melissarufano1576]

I LITERALLY was just thinking about you last week and I said to my bf I hadn’t seen anything from you in awhile and hoped you were okay 😭 this video was fabulous and just reiterated how wonderful your voice is on this platform and in this community. I already can’t wait for more (but no pressure) 😅💖

[@beemoji]

Just the other day I was thinking it'd be a while since I had seen a video from you... I love your "evolution of" videos, glad to see new content from your channel. Hope everything is going well for you!

[@brynnahernandez2589]

IM SO HAPPY YOURE BACK!! I can’t wait to hear your take and I was just wondering today if you’ve been watching the new love is blind season🤭

[@mobilesuitsam]

HANNAH! Cannot tell you how much I missed your uploads. I’ve been watching your videos for years now and didn’t realize how much your content has got me through… it feels like you’ve been along with me on my journey through life (parasocially obviously). I’m sending you lots of love and light on your journey as well. Hope you’ve been taking it easy ❤️ We definitely missed you.

[@anelaostojic2530]

i’ve missed you sooo much! hope you’re doing well. you are one of if not my favorite commentary youtuber, and i’ve just been feeling like there’s been this hole in the commentary space lately. so glad to see you again ❤ also, please do a video about the implosion of buzzfeed!!! i’m genuinely so interested

[@kailahprice6792]

QUEEN OMG so happy to see you back on my feed, I can’t wait to watch this when I get off work 😭💓

[@lizcortez]

OMG NOT ME SCREAMING SEEING A VIDEO FROM YOU

[@miramelander586]

I was just on your channel the other day because I realized I hadn’t seen you post in a while and thought maybe I had missed an announcement or something. So glad to see you back!! 💖💖

[@LeaMarz]

Happy to have you back Hannah 😊 no matter how much or how little you feel like posting, we are more than thrilled to see your notification pop up ❤ I hope you’re doing as well as you can beautiful xoxo

[@jojomarch]

So good to see you back, lots of love 💜 just started listening :D Edit: Hadn't really heard of these guys but this was really interesting. I really liked you sharing your view on power dynamics meaning those relationships can't be consensual, I had never really considered this as an absolute before, but it has really given me food for thought. Looking forward to your next post xx

[@teresac_]

Hey! So glad you uploaded again! I'll get the pop corn ready! Thanks for making these detailed dive-in videos. Hope you're doing well ❤❤

[@ivy_swain5003]

Omg I was literally thinking about you today!! I was wondering how you were doing and if you were wanting to continue making content, I’m soooo happy you’re back! What an amazing video to come back with, I’m so excited 🤩🥹

[@disasterxoxo6340]

I am so sorry but all i see when i hear pivot is ross, chandler and rachel on the stairs with the sofa 😂 sorry i loved the video great as always

[@noelle9685]

Hey girl I wanted to say that I missed your content sm so I started rewatching your older videos I had already seen. I wanted to let you know how rewatchable your content is! Your takes on drama even three years ago still hits even if I’ve already heard it. Hope things are going well for you ❤

[@thesovgc]

Omg I'm screaming with joy 😱. I've missed you DESPERATELY 😭

[@haleybrotherton6219]

I’ve been thinking abt you sm lately!!! ❤

[@JillOfodu]

So glad ur back! Would love to hear your "evolution of Madison Beer." I feel like she's been through so many eras online since like 2013.

[@sydneyroyal9664]

this was a great coverage- thank you for bringing up power imbalances and being upfront with what you brought to the subject with this video! evolution vids have always been my fav and I hope you do more :')

[@va3929]

Hi Hannah! So glad to see you back. I'd love to see you do a video on the evolution of Brooklyn and Bailey. Hope you're doing well!!

[@raestark]

Saw you posted as I was settling into bed before work in the morning, but that can obviously wait another 53 minutes and 21 seconds. So happy to get a new video from you! I’m hoping life is treating you kindly. Thank you for giving us some new content ❤️

[@Icantbelivethat]

You’re back! I’m so glad to see you. No pressure to explain any absences or do Glowmas if you need breaks. just glad to see you happy when I see you post.

[@sunnypowers]

the relationship was consensual. the try guys company is probably very woke. i mean they are always talking about female empowerment and stuff like that. so I really don't see how she wouldn't be comfortable talking about any sort of harassment with her collegues and her superiors. so i think she did consent to the relationship. they both are at fault for the affair. i understand that most of the time people blame the woman but you cannot say this woman who was in a relationship for 10 years and who is an adult doesn't have any sort of blame. i mean she literally knew that he was married with kids. stop infantalizing grown women. she made a decision, he made a decision and they both fucked up. i don't think she is a victim.

[@Taleneki]

Thank you. It grinds my gears that people are excusing her part in this. It takes two to cheat.

[@kendrickdinger]

Omg I was just binge watching your videos!!😭 I hope you’ve been taking care of yourself Hannah we’ve all missed you❤️❤️

[@stargirlrae]

I was thinking of you today! Happy you posted!

[@ginikaakpata8829]

i've been watching them since buzzfeed and in ned's old house to the most recent setup before this whole situation and i'm very excited to see the rebrand too! thank you for the video hannah! 😊

[@poggocow]

So glad you're back! 💛 Also I've been wanting to say this about The Ned situation: he most likely called it a 'consensual workplace relationship,' so he wouldn't get slapped with harassment/SA allegations