The Final Summary - All Time Boxing Ranking Experiment

[@hasbulladaruler]

My dude rummy loves saying Archie Moore’s nickname lol

[@tempestvideos9834]

Everyone loves the Old Mongoose

[@RealJRoyall]

Every time I hear The Oooooooooooooooooooooold Mongoose I can't help but smile hahaha

[@5wisher5weet]

5:38 10:54

[@jhernandez1045]

Doesn't the old Mongoose hold the record for the most knockouts accumulated in a career

[@georgecrowcroft9260]

@@jhernandez1045 yeah 132 I think, Sam Langford is second with 128

[@swaggytaggy4206]

Rummy i must say, that is a mighty fine spreadsheet. You got some Excel skills my man, think you missed your calling as an administrative grunt.

[@emtydoctrine]

Rummy, you should consider a Top 100 based on your boxing criteria. That can include stats like Ring's rankings, Win-Loss ratio, who they fought (e.g. boxers fighting other high quality fighters), titles obtained, how long the title was held, longevity, etc. That would be a better representation for the best boxers compared to the Ring magazine's ranking experiment.

[@vantheman12welshman66]

eMTy doctrine why don’t you do it?

[@AzureKite]

@@vantheman12welshman66 Because Rummy's the one that has a popular youtube channel, interesting presentation and the one who would make a really good video on it.

[@manueljr.villegas5820]

12:49 For the Top 100, Manny Pacquiao at the end of 2019 will have an additional 14 points for 2018 and 2019. His score becomes 191. Thus he would rank Top 3 in the Top 100 list. Wow.

[@carloseddiebolanosfortuny7578]

Rummy, I continued the data using the ratings for 2018, 2019 and 2020 for some of the active fighters on these list. The results are: Manny Pacquiao: 177 points +6 + 8 + 8 = 199 points (He is about to become the second fighter to pass 20o points) Roman Gonzalez: 83 points + 8 + 4 + 4 = 99 points (Just about to pass 100 points) Canelo Alvarez: 77 points + 10 + 10 + 16 = 113 points (Already above the 100 point landmark and he still has a long way to keep adding) Genady Golovkin: 62 points + 10 + 9 + 9 = 80 points (He is going to add some more, but I don't think he will surpas 100 in his career) Nonito Donaire: 84 points (Still will add some more points... He is almost 40 years old, and has fougth in 5 divisions) Naoya Inoue: 70 points (He is only 26 years old, getting 10 in each of his 7 years fighting in 3 divisions... He will certainly add a lot more points in the future) I consider every fighter that recorded 100 or more points a very special kind of fighter who's sucsessful carrer had the added benefit of longevity. Please give me your coments. Best regards!

[@ghettowizard7541]

Never been so hyped about a hypothetical tournament in my life. REAL DEAL is one of my favorite modern day boxers hope to see him go far in tournament. thanks for this one Rummy

[@secularpilgrim1372]

Outstanding work Rummy! No matter how you did the criteria for the list you will always have people moaning that "so and so" wasn't high enough on the list. I can't imagine how much time/work this took to complete but what i can do is thank you for your work, from a boxing fan to a true scholar. You should must definitely contact The Ring with this work, maybe you can get it published!

[@zockerbit1030]

It says "Experiment"!!! So be calm :D.....if you want to see an all time boxing ranking with the usual result, Ali or Robinson, with the "surprise" Henry Armstrong as No 3 I'm sure u can find 100s of other videos out there. This one was different and interesting. Made me happy to see new and fresh thoughts. Respect to this experiment.

[@RealJRoyall]

Another fantastic video. I really enjoyed this ranking experiment and I'm excited to see what you do with this Hypothetical Heavyweight tournament. It's gonna be interesting to hear your take on those matches.

[@JayJ615]

Thanks for taking the time to systematically research and score each year/decade for each of the weight classes.

[@manueljr.villegas5820]

12:37 In this list of high scores per division, Manny Pacquiao becomes first for WW-147 after 2019 as his total score becomes 91.

[@AnGhaeilge]

I love your content. I dunno how much these ratings say about the fighters though. Look at Super Middleweight for example. Steve Collins beat both Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank but isn't on there. He had 9 successful title fights. Anthony Mundine never beat anyone of note and yet is ranked 7th.

[@joegrantham4036]

Rummy... I love your analysis. Keep it coming.

[@billybob9961]

Great video thank you it's been fun going through this ranking system

[@Ivan-rl9mk]

My top 25 1, SRR 2, Brown bomber 3, Harry Greb 4, Sam Langford 5, The Greatest, Ali 6, Monos de pedra, Duran 7, The Bronx Bull, Lammota 8, Iron Mike Tyson 9, Jack Johnson 10, Floyd money mayweather 11, Ezzard Charles 12, Pernal Sweatpea Witacker 13, Wladimir Klitschko 14, GGG ( Most underrated ever) 15, Max Schmeming 16, Sugar Ray Lenard 17, Archie Moorer 18, Henry Armstrong 19, Gene Tunney 20, Marvin Haggler 21, Nasseem Hamed 22, Larry Holmes 23, George Foreman 24, Joe Frazier 25, Evander Holifield

[@kozadactyl660]

Lewis - Vitali in the first bracket!!!!! Rummy, don’t do it to yourself bro!

[@alejandrodg82]

Great resume rummy !!!! I learned a lot!

[@Rockstar-bq5fm]

Good job on your videos bud!! Thanks for the hard work I imagine it was a pain setting this list up lol 😂

[@io8190]

Great video brother!

[@MrPaulchester]

superb vid rummy. Keep em coming!

[@manueljr.villegas5820]

9:29 With the rankings for 2018 (6) and 2019 (8), an additional 14 points is added to complete the 2010s for Manny Pacquiao. He would rank 1, ahead of Sugar Ray Robinson. Wow.

[@damienspoons5325]

This was one hell of a journey, though I might not agree with some of The Ring's rankings this was still a very interesting series of videos.

[@danieldelavera9212]

You should do a top 10 tragic fights video... I think that would be compelling for us fight fans. Resto vs Collins Jr. McClellan vs Benn., ​Deuk Koo Kim vs Ray Mancini , just to name a few. Think about it.

[@EPSTomcat11]

Incredible work. Loved this! Are the top ranking fighters in the HOF?

[@creasemason6347]

A mammoth task!!! I salute you, Mr Rummy

[@jamestodd1104]

The ooooold mongoose. In my top 10 boxers ever. Sadly can’t get him above Charles as much as I’d like to

[@RitchieRashid]

I really enjoy how this video implemented math to justify itself. Solid Idea.

[@manueljr.villegas5820]

How remarkable is this? In the top 100 list at 12:50 the only active boxer is Manny Pacquiao!

[@RatatRatR]

The best fighter of the '90s isn't even on the '90s list. Presumably because Ring wasn't listing strawweights.

[@dieminervaeule]

Finito López had no rivals back then. He was devastating.

[@Slipknot5301]

@DaH8ter thank you

[@stevegeorge6880]

Ring magazine didn't have rankings for strawweights then.

[@howtoflips19]

According to your bracket I would have Ali and Wlad in the final and Ali as the best

[@justinkason9326]

Love your channel brotha! from Virginia.

[@usaisgood8433]

Spinks above Leonard Tyson Pryor Holmes Chavez?!! Wat kind of list r u making?!!

[@ezirulez4eva175]

He was in light heavyweight aswell

[@josemedinasgamefowlpage5988]

Did you make a straw weight?

[@riazamod8108]

Nice video

[@SG-xe1mv]

cant wait for the HW tournament. I've got Lewis beating Ali in the semis and then beating Wlad in the final

[@fatapples3838]

How come Marciano isn't in the top 15 at HW. Undefeated record and he beat No 2 on the list Joe Louis? Most the lists do look about rightish to be fair with some exceptions.

[@rudycenaronaldo5476]

I don't know man, ask The Ring magazine.

[@earlgarcia2736]

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam. Say that three times real fast.

[@JohnSmith-io2iw]

Bernard Hopkins over Sugar Ray Robinson ???? C'mon !!

[@stevegeorge6880]

It's a measure of consistency more than anything else. Hopkins was rarely if ever considered the best , but he stayed really close to the top of every division he fought in for almost three decades. That's just amazing.

[@cattycats4]

Your heavyweight tournament would be won by Joe Frazier

[@LorolinAstori]

Not sure why you assume those who retired, then returned, would have had higher totals. It is certainly possible, even probable, they may have fared worse. There is a reason they retired. And it is entirely possible if they fought during their retirement period circumstances may have made them score even lower than they amassed after they returned.

[@chriswhitfield3663]

DO A TOURNAMENT ON THAT

[@ranmoral2685]

No Arguello @130 even though he has wins over 3 fighters on the list? Strange list

[@tempestvideos9834]

Best boxing channel. You're the man, Rumsfeld.

[@bersanderdiyok1247]

13:38 Holyield fought also in the 10‘

[@Dreams-and-Castles]

Fundamentally flawed list that must have taken a lot of effort. The boxers' careers that were divided in half by the start and end of a decade, or spanned multiple decades got short changed. Calculating a boxer's lifetime accumulation of ranking points would be a fairer reflection of their historical standing. Anyone agree?

[@robt2577]

He did that in his video "Top 100 Boxers" kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp_WoZWYfNiqeJI He probably didn't want to just repeat that, so he went with the different breakdowns that he did. Good thought though.

[@FM-cx7ok]

Flawed system. Rankings from media represent their opinion of the fighers. Not exactly representatives of the best

[@stephendonatelli3083]

Great STUFF Rummy. I'm a Freelance Boxing Writer from (Pittsburgh, PA) so Obviously I LOVE my DUDE - "The Pittsburgh Windmill" or "Smoke City Wildcat" Harry Greb, my (#2) Pound-4-Pound EVER Only behind the Great & Complete Pugilist - The Candy Man "Sugar" Ray Robinson in First on my "Mt. Rushmore" along with "Homicide" Hank Armstrong and the Legendary "Terror" Sam Langford! I think you're SYSTEM is a Nice Gauge even though people will disagree, that's OK. If we ALL agreed, Boxing chat would be NO Fun, LOL. I just want you to know Rummy that I and Others Really Appreciate ALL the HARD Work & Dedication you put into this Rating Experiment, respectfully! #RummyRules !!!

[@karimizemrane8]

Bernard hopkins in the first place 😂😂😂

[@saceboss]

How u score over 100 points

[@JayJ615]

By being ranked in the top 10 in a given year in multiple weight classes and/or over multiple decades. It's apart of a much longer experiment using Ring Magazine rankings.

[@tueemsyhu4846]

SWEET!!😁😊💪💪👊👊

[@christophercolombus2474]

Suger ray Robinson might of bit that Ali if he was a heavyweight

[@usaisgood8433]

U don’t even have Tyson ranked??!! 😂 WAT?!!

[@RyanMclain]

88' MikeTyson I believe you will find him listed, funnily enough, as Tyson. He definitively was upon this list, though I don't believe ranked is the best word to use, as when in its typical usage it somewhat differs . anyway he was around 6th/7th *recall=imperfect* if one finds firsthand knowledge preferable to heresay, for some unfathomable reason. I believe that further scrutinizing the itemized data provided in the form of numerically ordered lists of surnames could prove to be of some value. in full disclosure I have no confirmation of this, such an unorthodox approach might have zero validity. if this holds, may wish publishing. Possible term: read. in the... observe family. further possible inclusion in branded methodology as step in like the " "scientists way" ALAS *blushes greatly* got all fanc'ful thinking there. aint be knowing my place n'all. like such means be feasible instead of witchedly harmful jawsqeek that clear wes all be knowing tis realy be being. woefully ashamed is me.... n rightfully so, at that!

[@anthonywillis7634]

Rocky Marciano? Undefeated but not listed. Strange system with strange results.

[@Hippykicker6]

his career was too short to take his decade.

[@anthonywillis7634]

okay, you are no doubt correct. Ali held his undisputed title over 24 or 25 fights while Marciano defended it 7 times. Thanks!

[@sskspartan]

Anthony Willis he was ranked, just not in top 10, but almosy there

[@aaronbradley3232]

Middleweight was the one that actually turned out kind of good actually very good but you okay you know that turned out really good could have been a little better sorry

[@sandyacombs]

Your system has a number of flaws. Many great boxers careers span 5 years in one decade and 5 years in the next decade, for example decreasing the over all score and diminishing their greatness.

[@franagustin3094]

Harry Greb destroy Hopkings and beat Hagler.

[@jbennett3794]

who is this? fackin' rumsfeld?

[@aaronbradley3232]

Yeah you worked hard and everything but not us this is no good no not you got to factor more shit in them you know purpose is and what it's saying for you know who fought from night from exactly you know January of 1920 through December of 1919 okay you might have two decades correct whatever but you know ain't no way ranking buddy

[@Michael-mw2ch]

What a load of bullshit surely roy jones was the best middleweight we have ever seen like if you agree

[@aaronbradley3232]

This is interesting but really no good I mean okay I I like the outcome for the 20s 30s 40s I like our team or so then it really just gets Beyond ridiculous some of the people that I should be up in especially to the people that should be in second and third mostly you know gets a little better at the end of the 90s and then it goes to complete crap again but then so well and I think it actually is gets more accurate at the end but at that point who cares cuz you know box at that the weakest area is making a slight come back now but boxing was I don't even care about what was happening basically from 6 through well at least 2009 through 2017 that was eight years of barren Wasteland

[@usaisgood8433]

Mike Tyson was BY FAR the BIGGEST / BEST fighter of the 80’s! First for so much! He was invincible! A phenom and broke all records! He is the biggest most popular and famous fighter EVER! He was 37-0 32 KO (when it counted)in his prime!

[@jaymule7342]

Since 1985 when I was born, I’ve watched some historic fighters as well as some historic fights. Looking at the last 30years the boxer with the most god given talent that did the most in his prime was Roy Jones Jr. He made two legit HOFamers (James Tony/Bernard Hopkins) look like they were in a completely different sport. I never watched a fighter for just about 15years straight beat guys in the fashion that Roy did. It didn’t matter if it was footwork, movement, distance, speed, 1 shot KO power in either hand, combination punching, body punching, high IQ or the ability to avoid taking damage while still landing accurate effective blows. Roy Jones Jr and maybe Jesus Christ himself were the only two with those kinda gifts. Once you start to age, though those gifts deteriorate fast. A split second off kills Roy. Whereas Hopkins was a technical, bend the rules guys which allowed him to prolong his career. Side note: The most exciting fighter I ever laid eyes on by far... Artuor ‘Thunder’ Gatti.

[@bombercountyblues]

DaaBoys2138 as such a big fan of Jones Jr, I'm interested to hear your opinion of lomachenko.. I think he took the blueprint Roy set out and developed it even further to create his style.

[@christophercoey7804]

@@bombercountyblues Lomachenko is a real boxer - laughable to compare him to Roy Jones. a) He tskes on the best rather than duck them and b) he has a defence.

[@stephentheweaselespinoza2659]

Kinda sucks that Ring Magazine didn't rank Floyd in 2015. He would've had (probably) 10 points. Which makes him the number one highest welterweight of all time, and yes, above Robinson :)

[@christophercoey7804]

Just pretend via your own database or create your own nonsense algorithm. Also you don't need to let the fact that he avoided most of the lineal champs along the way and ducked guys in their primes affect your opinion.

[@sirdetmist3204]

This system is awful when it comes to deciding who is the best, infact its useless.

[@RyanMclain]

if, during any part of this series, rummy said "this list wont give you the ability to definitively, 100% accurately state which is the best boxer, regardless of anything. period. no criteria or qualifying statements at all" ...well a comment few would consider acceptable in polite society would be left simultaneous to my unnsubscribing. some shits just so obvious it needs not be said...or "goes without saying" as im not feeling my best such im leaving one of them polite ones without big or foul or wounding or provocation and not attacking any flaws, logic, word selection, premise of argument, personal feelings capacity towardstraits common to all humans at varying levels etc etc tbh its not my preference at all but I feel really horrid. ...srsly. probably dying or something. anyway, later