The Gottman Doctors: Women Tend to Be More Unhappily Married & Non-Cuddlers Have an Awful Sex Life!

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

Can I ask you all a favour? If you enjoy this episode, could you please hit the like button 👍🏾 it helps us massively. Appreciate you all! 🙏🏽

[@thelastaustralian7583]

Since the successful 'Torches of Freedom' mass hypnosis programs design by Edward Bernays. To focus on the female to be basically making them Sick . Now since then with refined conditioning the controllers have destroyed the ability for healthy Family and Community expression .

[@maverick3644]

I will do it, if you can precise how it helps you? (i am allready a subsciber).

[@melanielucas9219]

I wish I had this knowledge years ago...thank u

[@anwa6169]

@@maverick3644 Because of youtubes algorithm.

[@lisettegarcia]

​@@LaurenButt436yeah, I noticed that she often had to request permission to contribute whereas he felt free to interject when she was speaking.

[@tck3041]

My husband and I were friends for 2 years before getting together and then married for 25 years until he so tragically and suddenly died of an anuerisom in front of me one morning. I reflect on our love often, and one thing that glued us together was yes cuddling but laughing together, esp when we first woke up. If things ever got heated we would both retreat and then come back together, look at each other's cranky face and burst out laughing. I would just cherish one smile, one more cuddle, one more cranky face lol, and to hear his big laugh again. Treasure each other. ❤

[@chinmaywagh1135]

This was so sweet ❤ Hope you doing well now😊 wishing the best 🙏🏼

[@cthymnn2010]

I wish I could of had that.

[@longtimeplayerz5509]

Bless you

[@jamesmccallum6770]

I'm pleased you were able to have had such a good experience. Long may the memories last. I'm so sorry for your loss ❤

[@pumlabrook-thomae1301]

Aw🥰 beautiful. Thanks for sharing. May you find love again and may your hubby’s soul rest in peace.

[@AmberD-nl6od]

My husband and I read The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work before we got married. We read it to each other, wrote notes in the book, talked about it. 12 years later we still quote it and use the techniques. I always recommend it. I have gone back to read our notes and it always makes me smile.

[@MsQ275]

that's beautiful and I hope you and your family have a wonderful day ❤

[@jenniehughes6927]

That makes me wonder why you're even here.

[@oscarplant6371]

@@jenniehughes6927relationships take constant work, she clearly recognises this, perhaps shes just doing her homework?

[@janinemelanie8391]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@FleetingArtist]

I hope to find a relationship like yours one day 🙂 your so lucky!

[@refreshingtwist]

As a single person listening to this ... I feel the smartest choice is to really only date people that have high emotional intelligence/ are interested in human psychology/ human behaviour. Otherwise, I can imagine that a lot of people listening to this are in a one-sided relationship. Where one person wants to try all these techniques and is excited about it, but the other person is incapable/ has no interest in this stuff. At least, that's the impression I get observing people and relationships.

[@pixie3458]

That is definitely my experience

[@wondervideos2084]

Amen. Also, One should date people who are happy with themselves. Most of the time people hate themselves and look constantly for love and validation from their partners.

[@okaycola2]

Yep

[@okaycola2]

@@wondervideos2084 ❤

[@sallys9632]

Yes, none of this is helpful if the other partner is not capable of or interested in understanding emotions and processing them appropriately.

[@tippieyanez8289]

Why Steven is a great interviewer: he does not interrupt. Very quick and to the point with questions. If he does talk about himself it isnt to brag about how much he knows but to actually admit that he needs help as well and is endlessly curious. Keeps it simple and keeps up the pace in a very fluid way. Makes him so relatable and likeable, but respected all at once. He speaks like an actual man.

[@ericaguerrido2005]

Wow, great observation! 🤙🏾

[@natinatyoutube]

People really need to ask themselves "Why am I bothered by people who share good or great things about themselves ?". Because no, it's not always bragging. I often wonder why it's socially more acceptable to talk about how you feel like a complete failure, but you can never say how amazing you think you are.

[@atruth777]

I can totally agree with this. There are some podcasts where the questions are long-winded (PBD, Impact Theory etc.) there are times the guest are lost and kills the interview for me.

[@2passportsandpostcards]

Very well said! I have observed the same.

[@internet_warlord]

Yes, usually bad interviewers think they are more important than the interviewees. That's why they interrupt so the spotlight can't be stolen from them. Instead of "Let's hear from these amazing people.", they are like "These amazing people agreed to be on my show, so that means I'm that important"

[@vzain3082]

I just love the way John looked at Julie whenever she talked. He admired and appreciated her so much and it showed in his gaze.

[@Missjiji33]

yeah, obviously they submit with each other.

[@grantperkins368]

It's one of their rules for success ❤

[@grantperkins368]

​@@Missjiji33you're smart ❤

[@travelmodeon]

That's my the very first thought!❤

[@SWOTHDRA]

🤦‍♂️

[@livfield25]

Why is this adorable old couple making me cry lol they treat each other with so much love, respect and support. It's so refreshing!!!!

[@MrR40388]

That's because they have maturity and self awareness. Which is not common. Especially among the young.

[@sidd4419]

My thoughts exactly! After watching this episode, all I want is to work towards becoming like them.

[@amayawson477]

It is beautiful!

[@cottlad]

I saw a bloke being told when to stop talking and when he could talk with a simple tap on the shoulder. Seems to work hehe

[@Dondillilochevrolet]

@@MrR40388they’re literally the experts

[@boochi7087]

I think the irony of this video is that so many people responding to it are complaining about how difficult it is to date today, and the hookup culture, and the inability to make decent connections, and then they'll turn around and go right back to the terrible habits that make their lives, social interactions, and interpersonal relationships just unbearable! There's no magic from just listening to these professionals folks - you have to put in the work and realize that you can't force people to give you what you expect. Lack of self-awareness and accountability is also a huge problem! Everyone wants to blame the culture but no one wants to acknowledge how they contribute to the culture.

[@whawha8043]

Literally what I think every time I go on a date with a woman with a string of past of bad relationships.

[@thomasjones4570]

Same bullshit different decade. I have been listening to this nonsense my entire life and my parents heard it in the 1970s, the decade of free love. Its bullshit.

[@ryanutterback]

SAY IT AGAIN

[@calikeisha365]

Amen! I think I’ve contributed to the terrible culture in the past by not making my happiness my responsibility.

[@MrSqueamishJam]

What does a woman's negative dating history with men have to do with hookup culture did you plow her or something ? ​@@whawha8043

[@g-erwin]

One of the most beautiful things about this video is their body language toward each other and how intently they listen to each other and try to understand each other on a deep level.

[@E.Cerulean]

Yep I am studying their actions even more so than their words. Both very beneficial

[@pearpo]

Supporter / greatest fan ❤️

[@DungNguyen-fy1nt]

I feel it in my bones tooo

[@cefandrius]

3 takeaways for me: 1. Strive for responding to the bids for connection at least 85% of the time 2. Express your own need, wants and feelings and carefully listen for your partner's ones 3. Try not to blame, criticise, defend or stonewalling during conflicts

[@-Timur1214]

Not quite accurate in multiple ways, please rewatch or atleast think it over again. Still nice of you to put up a small list of some important ideas!

[@fans_xd]

I think it is a nice way to start!

[@natinatyoutube]

​@@-Timur1214the list might not be complete but he perfectly resumed 3 of the most important points of this interview. Also the way you phrased your point is the literal opposite of what this couple recommands, in order to preserve healthy and loving relationships. Interesting...

[@lichiehrb]

There's a saying, "Listen to understand. Not to argue and defend"

[@rebekahguilder602]

I love how when he pointed out his faults she immediately rushed in to explain that it didn’t come from a place of malice. It’s so kind to assume the best of your partner’s motives.

[@wolfwind1]

Good observation.

[@pearpo]

True, but that should be abundantly clear. That’s almost the defining characteristic/characteristic. It’s why my Exs are Exs. I presumed no ill intentions until unfortunately several times I discovered there was malice, jealousy, envy..

[@pearpo]

Correction: ***defining characteristic / question to be answered.

[@stevescuba1978]

When my marriage was rocky, it was often due to this. My wife would constantly lose her mind over very little things. Then, she would go on a long rant about how this insignificant thing indicated a litany of emotions that I was subconsciously projecting. I would always respond, "do you really think men take that much time to think about emotions?" She constantly assumed I was going out of my way to hurt her, when I was too busy to even notice the things she thought I was doing purposely. I asked her, for years, to apply logic to the situation, and to try and assume the best about me, and not the worst. I asked her to assume that I intended to make her happy, and anything outside of that was a mistake. It's amazing how I suddenly went from the world's biggest a-hole to the world's best husband, all from just her assuming (rightfully) that I had her best interest in my heart.

[@meetandinspire]

"Sixty-nine percent of all problems are not solvable. Once you pick somebody to have a relationship with, you've automatically inherited the problems you'll have for the next 50 years." "Empathy is probably the most powerful tool we have to really create connection with one another."

[@cindymadore]

What you've said is REALLY important. That means if you're dealing with a narcissist in your life, NO amount of love will fix that. Normal people have empathy. Normal people can have meaningful conversation. Lies, name calling, false accusations are not meaningful. You can't save everybody.Some people are such that you have to walk away simply for self preservation.

[@DivineLogos]

69.......

[@mizum3458]

​@@cindymadoreand far more often than not, it's the women that end things....but they're also the biggest ones that fail the most in having caused all the problems in most relationships having never taken any real accountabilities for any of their disrespectful selfish narcissistic actions. 💯💊😒

[@PowerGurhl]

Yup first quote is everything

[@freespirit6898]

@@mizum3458 😳😅😅😅accusing women? 🙃😅😅😅

[@omarhayat]

They are not only telling us about healthy relationships but they gave many demos while talking. How passionately they are listening to each other.

[@elizabethk3238]

No relationship is better than a bad one. I've tried, without success, so being in no relationship works for me. People are that basis of all my stress. I'm 76 and in perfect health...no meds, no pain, no past or present illnesses. I love and treat myself the way I've wanted others to treat me, and it works well.

[@kathleendubois7128]

Bravo!

[@RedSky8]

Not everyone can be in a relationship just by the law of averages. For some it's just not in the cards, whether it's from past relationships they can't heal from, personal issues they can't fix, or standards they're deluded by. Love's a true gamble of an investment and most people lose in the market. Actually I'll even include that more and more people lie to themselves and say they don't want one anyway because they only look at the negatives and say, "this is why it's not for me" taking themselves off the market.

[@kdrcolac4360]

At 61, my status is - Intentionally non committed😊

[@jenifernadeau]

Yes we are supposed to treat ourselves the way we desire to be treated, and as long as we are living with no expectations to outcome.... what's meant for us will never pass us by❤ It's no one else's job to give us validation accolades acceptance or unconditional love..... that's what we were seeking from childhood that hasn't been healed yet..... that we subconsciously carry into adulthood.. once we do that inner child healing add our own shadow work.. by loving and accepting and getting to know the parts of ourselves that others told us were not lovable.... which was all illusion anyway..... that is how we become healed and whole❤ attract those who are also emotionally unavailable.... we are the ones that bring to us everything in our reality and we create our reality❤

[@latinaalma1947]

Good for you but sorry for your negative experiences.

[@chillero3heftig712]

not every non divorced family is an intact family. we have to make a third statistic for families where parents fight so bad they *should* be divorced but stay together EDIT: i found a paper talking about a similar topic called "being poor doesnt have the same effect as living in chaos" (rob henderson)

[@karenflynn6589]

It's especially bad when BOTH parents are narcissists.

[@decangel82]

I grew up in a household like that and when I read the 4 horsemen of divorce, I was like yep, I know how to do all of these perfectly. But have no idea on how to do a loving relationship despite my parents staying together until I was 25.

[@RecoveringHermit]

Yes this, seeing people who should love each other actually hate each other is so hard to be around constantly.

[@stevend8785]

I say this all the time. Everyone knows 50% divorce. Of the remaining couples, probably half are staying for the kids, the finances, religious expectations, etc. If success is considered mutual happiness, the odds of success are very low. Maybe 10 to 20% at most.

[@melbaT2770]

@@stevend8785You are most likely correct! I stayed for my son til he turned 13. I finally left my ex spouse and am doing so much better and so is my son. We come home and live peacefully and are rarely sick now.

[@Totsy30]

Dude here. I can't imagine having a relationship without cuddles. It's gotta be my #1 way of building a strong connection and making my girl feel safe and loved. It also just feels right to hold the person you love, even if it's not directly sexual.

[@TheAdventuresofSnickersandMinn]

Beautiful

[@stefanisilva2493]

This. I wonder why society only talks about sex in relashionships when cuddle is actually proven way more important and necessary for health. Most mammals show an extreme need for it.

[@MrR40388]

If a woman wants that,she should make it known BEFORE there is a commitment.

[@ElementaryWatson-123]

Well, if that's what you want get yourself a dog. My dog is great cuddler.

[@TheAdventuresofSnickersandMinn]

😂

[@EgleA-u8e]

If soul mates truly exist, this couple is the perfect example! Just watching how they talk, look at each other, support, add their knowledge - so much love, respect, understanding clearly visible! The end the way they describe what they mean to each other made me cry. As world is changing so much, so beautiful and rare to see it. That gives me a hope that my decision to wait for partner who is emotionally available, aware and conscious about their own issues as well as having willingness to work together as a team might still come true one day! Thank you for amazing episode - this was both informative and heart warming at the same time.

[@darbyohara]

No such thing as a soulmate

[@LlamasIlamas]

It’s going to sound weird but once I started thinking “what do I want from this” in an argument.. I started taking the steps to fixing issues, not being right to be right. Even now, when my wife and I fight… after cooling off I ask her what she wants from this. Sometimes it’s to stop fighting. Sometimes it’s to understand her. Just get to the point. We beat around the bush too much when we are angry/hurt/offended. What do I truly want from this? It’s to to get over this misunderstanding and to move on. Whether we realize it at the moment or not, it is our goal.

[@hannah3402]

Love that question!

[@911awakening]

Thank you for sharing this. I once heard from a book that males look for solutions. Females look for validation. This question would likely shed much clarity in an argument.

[@beatsg]

@@911awakening I think understanding is a better word for it.

[@tiesiai_per_aplinkui]

​@@911awakening women smt want to be heard not to shove a solution, a solution we can come up later, now I want for you to listen. Men often want to jump to a solution asap, while women want to marinate in their feelings first, cool down and then find a solution, so, first of ask if she wants you to listen or wants a solution/advice

[@user-kp3rc4eq8x]

John mentioned his parents didn't treat him and his sister the same. He was raised with love and support but in the same household his sister was treated opposite. Many daughters have been in your sister's position, thank you for speaking on it John. More sons need to speak out on the favoritism they experienced growing up at the expense of their own female siblings!!

[@SorbusAucubaria]

I am certain that sometimes it is the girl that is favored and raised with kindness and the boys who are not.

[@MrSqueamishJam]

​@@SorbusAucubariaLol

[@ohanaohana8844]

What the mother fails to realize is that if the daughter wins, the mother wins! The daughter is usually the one who becomes the caretaker and often is the more responsible one. Daughters are a gift and blessing!!!

[@user-kp3rc4eq8x]

@@SorbusAucubaria Not often, the exception doesn't make the rule. Where do you think male mentality of feeling superior to women stems from? It often starts at home, where the boy not only observes how his mother gets treated by his father, but also how his mother turns around and uses his sister as a punching bag and an escape goat, yet showers him with praise for just existing. The ultimate golden child. The boy grows up expecting this royal treatment from other women. The 'male entitlement' which 'boy mothers' had a hand in creating, is no longer tolerated like before which is creating a crisis within male- female relationship dynamics.

[@user-kp3rc4eq8x]

@@ohanaohana8844 Exactly! There is a saying my own mother used to say : 'Boys are loved and daughters are raised'. The mother intends to sabotage the future wife who will inherit a grown man child. Some women are so desperate for male validation they seek it even in their sons and discard their daughters like trash. Then as you said expect help later on. Sad

[@tyshat3371]

Steven, my hat off to you; you keep raising the bar. Your interaction with your guests is spot on. You’ve grown so much as an interviewer. Congratulations!

[@Lady_Vicki]

🎉

[@meganhartmann180]

Hear, hear! You ask such interesting and inciteful questions, Steven. And it's clear that you've done a lot of research beforehand so that you're able to draw out interesting information from all your guests.

[@edwardowusuwiredu646]

No, he hasn't grown that much. He should stop talking too much about himself in his interviews. The world doesn't revolve around him

[@iwilltouchyourtoes]

​@@edwardowusuwiredu646I'm pretty sure he just brings something up and act like his experience to get guests to address potential fixes/solutions for people who are watching with those issues There's no way he's got all these issues insecurities problems etc because he says something with almost every guest.

[@beatsg]

That's such a lovely thing to say. I have to say this is a supportive good community.

[@veeveemille8830]

OMG STEVEN, I have seen other interviews of the Gottmans, and those were mostly incoherent messes. But here, you asked such structured, incisive, simple yet profound questions that you really brought out their outright brilliance and genius on so many levels, and you DID NOT INTERRUPT…your ability to to interview with intelligence, sensitivity, and vulnerability is setting a new paradigm for the medium. This interview is one of the best on KZbin, a classic for the ages. Congratulations.

[@rubyb7252]

Julie gottman is an absolute sweetheart and im just cheesing hearing them as they talk with each other. Relationship goals and I just love her

[@Trapz4Dayz]

I love the way she praised her husband when talking about what he meant to her.

[@debdanielle]

That was so beautiful to see, my favorite part of the interview.

[@christafaith2986]

Steve is super good at his job, he is open, personal and asks the right questions. Kudos to you.

[@stellistellostilletto301]

Stephen, this may be your best podcast ever. And one of the reasons is your willingness to be vulnerable for all the world to hear, so that we can learn together. Thank you. This video is priceless.

[@ciscokid0110]

Most issues really aren’t worth fighting over…laughter helps a lot… two bathrooms help too😂 Married 33 years, one short argument. I owe that to a calm, loving husband.😊 We went through the loss of 4 parents, 3 to cancer and my husband is year 6 clear of stage 3 cancer. You better get things right before the really tough times hit.

[@rampagesmackssons508]

Here's to your husband's and your health 🥂

[@ciscokid0110]

@@rampagesmackssons508 Ty😊

[@MrR40388]

Men are simple creatures. Very easy to please. You being appreciative makes it easy for him to be calm and loving.

[@user-lt1jd1ye3v]

♥️ Now how I find a calm loving husband..

[@ciscokid0110]

@@user-lt1jd1ye3v I wasn’t looking for one😊

[@wendybarclay7908]

September we will celebrate 50 yrs Married, lived together 1yr prior! Always growing our appreciation for each other.

[@Cheezeball]

😱 Lived together unmarried for a year in 1973? Scandalous! 😁

[@hannah3402]

This is super inspiring and amazing! Happy anniversary for when September hits ! That's a big one

[@IreneJaguru]

Beautiful 😍! Wishing you 50 more years of happiness!

[@acerpalmatum6446]

16:38 the "bid for connection" is huge! I underestimated it for so long whenever my husband would want to show me a news article, a dumb meme, or something he found interesting online. I used to disregard them as interruptions and annoyances - huge mistake!! Until I read Gottman's work and realized those little, tiny moments were my husband's way of trying to find connection with me throughout the day. We were so foolish in our early years of marriage, made many mistakes - some little, some big. But we committed to being honest about even "the little dumb things" that might bother or hurt us Nip it in the bud, so to speak. We're really enjoying marriage now.

[@tippieyanez8289]

They obviously like each other. Love how they gaze at each other and how she touches him. They exude so much love. They act exactly like the genuinely happy couples i meet that have been together for 60 years and still devoted to each other.

[@sunenasri]

cuddles run dry when you are not heard in a relationship! Listening and acknowledging that something is not right has to come from both the party for things to work

[@Ellery-s7j]

they also run dry when you start having kids and both parents go to the bottom rung of the sleep ladder for at least 2 years with the arrival of each child, when each parent is working and increasingly constantly tired from sleep deprivation and cuddling and calming the kids, not each other.

[@godsangel67able]

@@Ellery-s7j I think the problem arises when most parents put their children above their relationship, and everything they do is for the child. One thing I noticed is we often give our spouse priority over what's going on in. our lives, we have work, children, ourselves and too often we forget about our partner. and we get mad at our partner because they didn't sacrifice more for us, but forget we didn't sacrifice for them either

[@Paragon_1111]

Maybe you need to find out why there’s no listening

[@g.d.2059]

Some people do not like to cuddle. They aren't affectionate in that way, and show it in other ways.

[@jenster29]

​@@g.d.2059then the relationship is doomed. The person not getting the NEEDED affection will feel alone and unloved and will eventually have to make decisions for their own well being

[@chanceofd]

I very quickly noticed a correlation between speaking with strangers and trying to make them smile And make their day better make me in a much better mood

[@meganhartmann180]

That reminds me of a note that was on our staff bulletin board at work. It said something like, giving someone else a compliment or helping make another person's day brighter will bring you happiness and satisfaction too. This is so true!

[@acerpalmatum6446]

It's because when you're focused in on someone else, it's the exact opposite of self consciousness which is where the emotion of anxiety is birthed. Not my idea. I heard JBP explain that once and it really rang true. If you are anxious about attending a party, you walk in there with the aim to make someone else as comfortable - and at ease - as possible. Doing so makes it impossible to obsess about yourself or your feelings. Maybe that is a metaphor for how humans are supposed to commune with others. The feeling after having a pleasant interaction with a stranger, therefore, makes perfect sense.

[@TheRelaxationZone1]

It activates the happy chemicals love hormone oxytocin

[@sloanmagnum5009]

Many religions preach this. Being in service of other brings one joy

[@nicothenatural]

I love that you do this. Your comment was warm and welcoming, especially with so many others being so truly awful. Be well! 🫶🏻💕

[@tylercrooks8659]

The more I learn about relationships, the more I’m convinced that self awareness and accountability to the needs of the relationship (both people’s needs) are key. Both people can be as kind as they want to someone, but if they don’t have the capacity to see how they are impacting the relationship, feedback will be rejected and the other person vilified or seen as the problem. Game over.

[@myrnaalexander2090]

As a marriage/ family therapist of 53 years, I found this interview with the Gottmans fantastic! So much invaluable info!! Please have them back! Thank you so much!

[@v9b23j]

I find using Non-Violent Communication helps resolve conflict. Also, validating your partner's feelings and needs even if you don't agree with them often makes them feel seen, heard, understood and deescalates the conflit.

[@RayF6126]

Sometimes, I start a potentially fraught conversation with either I'm proud of you for something, an apology for something I did that's a little off subject of what may turn into a fight. If I'm too tired for that I ask "Hey, why did this happen?" Usually, it brings a different energy to the convo.

[@Missjiji33]

​@@RayF6126twas happened that you're not in the same path. I know that it's tiring to adjust.

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

I had an ex that studied non-violent communication. She was hideously awful at using it. She was just a manipulative gaslighting and deceitful bitch with zero ability to be accountable for her actions. In her case, the criticism is 100% deserved. Calm, compassionate, understanding, vulnerable and empathetic communication only got me manipulated and taken advantage of. My trust abused. I even convinced her to go to a Gottman Therapist with me. It achieved nothing. The therapists talked 90% of the time, gave us no tools to use and did not spot my exes covert narcissism. I left her, went no contact. My life improved significantly.

[@RayF6126]

@@aaronsinspirationdaily4896 I have met people who use it that way, just like any tool can be misused. I'm sorry that happened.

[@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish]

I mean, you should make it known that you don't agree with them and have a discussion about that.

[@YogaBlissDance]

Interesting re: talking to strangers, I've been single, but I find joy in talking to new people strangers during my day it does bring me joy and connection.

[@CLK7378]

(39:30) I am so grateful Julie mentioned that there are times when dreams are incompatible and can't be negotiated or compromised. Coming to that truth and reality that a relationship won't work is so very painful. Let's not shame people who have to end relationships, even long-term ones. They are not failures. I see the emotional toll this takes on individuals and their families, especially religious traditions that teach you stay together no matter what. I think with the divorce rates the way they are, there should also be a conversation about breaking up in a healthier, more wise-minded way.

[@orphanedhanyou]

People think it's all just supposed to be love. But you can love someone you aren't compatible with. That's why you don't lie to yourself and live in denial to enter in and maintain those relationships.

[@darbyohara]

That fact is becoming increasingly worse in younger generations and with social media. Most of this couples work is on those married 20+ years ago

[@yuzuguran8295]

I didn’t get Mother’s Day card or even a happy Mother’s Day acknowledgment from my children’s father today. I was deeply hurt and feeling under appreciated and rejected…and then this interview popped up and it made me feel so inspired by all the kind people in the comments. Thank you all for being loving people and expressing appreciation for this interview. It was so insightful.

[@barefootcleaners]

I hope you have a support group to care about you and can heal your relationships with family ❤️

[@brooklin_bernek]

That breaks my heart, I’m 32 and my hubs is 34 and we are so apart it’s not even funny, and we’re way too young for this. He sees nothing wrong and I see it all wrong. We don’t even have sex. It’s so sad if I could financially I’d walk away in a heartbeat . He does the same on holidays - he runs out that morning , like literally 8-9am and goes to Walmart for trash flowers ;and no it’s not the Walmart flowers it’s the 5 mins of running out prior cause it means nothing to him. He knows I can’t leave so he doesn’t even try. But boy when I worked before having our last baby he was soooooooo different.

[@SmarterTebya]

@@brooklin_bernek You are being cheated on. Don't be naive

[@brooklin_bernek]

@@SmarterTebyawhy cheating ? I’m curious your thoughts

[@SmarterTebya]

@@brooklin_bernek men that age really reluctant to give up sex life for no reason.

[@virginiahedge6799]

I am 71 divorced 2 times. In a relationship with a wonderful man I’m in love with him. I’m trying to improve myself in every area I am the happiest Ive ever have been. We are working on making our relationship work and it’s up to us as individuals and not to blamed each other or change the other. Love this program and am learning so much thank you

[@louiselouise8133]

Cannot believe you got these two on! Heard so much of them from many different relationship coaches but never actually seen them in the skin! Bravo DOAC

[@MeheretTirago]

The way they were expressing their love to each other made me cry😢 like a baby! Gosh! What a beautiful love they have❤...

[@Popolar_]

I get lambasted when I say my first criteria of a partner is emotional maturity / stability. But I stand by that. My parents had a relationship riddled with 4 horsemen and it was so tiring to mediate growing up. But I love content like these, invaluable in our journey to reparent ourselves and managing future relationships. Thanks DOAC.

[@FallacyBites]

You are absolutely right.

[@colleenshea2293]

As an experienced older person - I would recommend pre-marital counselling to any couple about to live together or get married.

[@UXtatic]

Amen and also individual therapy.

[@peacelove7437]

Not bullet proof , we did it and start got divorced. Our story is different, no cheating, and no kind of abused. I know crazy right?!!! He had an addiction to alcohol and pain killers.

[@kellyfrancis8999]

@@peacelove7437But for the most part it’s beneficial to couples planning to marry.

[@polaramondi5305]

​@@peacelove7437 Hey Peace was the addiction there before you got married or did it come later?

[@spyroluver0951]

yeh, how did you observe the addiction? You are so strong

[@cherishchee]

Ahhh the GOATS of successful marriages! ❤❤❤ I love the Gottmans. Their advice over the years helped me bring my marriage back from the brink of disaster!

[@Paul-ke2hg]

The GOTTS

[@andrewbatson9710]

I wish they stuck to what they kbow and didn't get off in the weeds with their false feminist nonsense about gender pay gaps and "lack of opportunities" for women. This is where the disconnect of modern problems is lost on older individuals. It's no longer the society that existed when they were 25. Women are beginning to our earn men, our graduate men, and gain more promotional advancements than men in many white collar fields. If those women are feeling sexually uninspired it's not because they feel societal oppression because of their genitals, it's because they can't find anyone who matches or exceeds them as a provider to make them feel safe and secure and aroused

[@grantperkins368]

​@@Paul-ke2hgbeat me to it 😊

[@nedgetravels818]

Yes! So right, The G.O.A.T's of successful marriages!

[@starlingswallow]

My husband and I cuddle every single night 😍 The oxytocin wave is glorious! He never thought he'd be a cuddler, but here we are! We also laugh often, kiss often, and validating each others feelings. It's a game-changer. When we bring up an issue or hurt feelings, the other will validate the feelings (empathy) and then we talk it through because we love each other and we see ourselves as on the same team, striving towards the same goal: connection. ❤

[@Alkemiss]

It's the simple things you know. Cherish this union, sounds like bliss ✨️

[@theresetibbits]

Men need training to do this.

[@ladybug3380]

@@theresetibbitswe have to train them to do everything.

[@TheAdventuresofSnickersandMinn]

Lucky lol

[@realtalk675]

Exactly ❤

[@realtalk675]

I am a muslim man and i respect this jewish couple so much. clear and intelligent. Listened to the whole podcast and i totally agree. I am in a happy marriage with a catholic woman and i am currently fasting. And she is very understanding.We compromised in the beginning also how we would raise our kids and how to deal with our famillies. I dont know but it feels like god put us together for a reason. We are not together to hurt each other but to learn from eachother but still dont push your own beliefs or values on others. In the beginning (talking stage) you can really talk about those things and then u can decide if you can accept that. We compromise but also respect eachothers values and wanting to learn from eachother’s religion. I am algerian and my wife is croatian. Currently 15 years together ❤ always listen to your intuition

[@SuspensionTruth]

What a beautiful testimony. I've yet to listen to the video - starting with browsing comments which are very affirming. My Mother is Catholic, my Father was Muslim until he converted to Christianity later in life. From the beginning of their unlikely union, their devotion to God and willingness to submit to Him through daily prayer was their glue and foundation. Maybe you be blessed with wise beautiful children and continue to be a witness for loving God-centered couples.

[@realtalk675]

@@SuspensionTruth thank you for the beautiful comment

[@voidmain9519]

Wow it's heartwarming reading your story❤ I am 29, from India, I love a man. I really do want to work on myself and on our relationship. He's the most kind and understanding man I have ever met. Reading how couples like you evolved together for decades despite many differences really makes my heart happy and grateful. Thank you so much for sharing this here.

[@iCarryBoatsAndTheLogs]

With all due respect you shouldn’t been be together if you followed your religion and she did well enough.

[@georginacantu6499]

Wow!!! This is amazing I’m so happy for you and happy to hear this!!So inspiring! This is proof not all couples need to have aligned religious views to be happy!

[@yukisnoww]

Love the episode and the insights, I think the main challenge today is finding someone who is willing to work through the difficulties of a relationship. It is true, that there's more pain than you would have on your own, but there's more love, too.

[@wadoneniwho1880]

1 in 4 women have s t d s. There will be lots of pain if they don't start taking better care of themselves and showing respect to those around them, their own bodies, other people's bodies and the society they live in.

[@caitlinnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

@wadoneniwho1880 seems unrelated but ok

[@GameFuMaster]

that's like purposefully injuring yourself so you can legally take heroin. Not sure where the smart decision was.

[@wadoneniwho1880]

@caitlinnnnnnnnnnnnnn pain in relationships. You think these women are being tested? No, they are passing it around. Recklessly.

[@VaronPlateando]

well... the main challenge (for self-respecting, rational gents, that is) is to recognise and mitigate any urge into xx.s that would imply pursuing utmost likely detriment to them and their lives if indeed committing. put bluntly: 1st marrg. divorce likelihood is 50+%, 2nd marrg. 66%+, 3rd about 80%+, with divorces triggered by xx.s in 70..90% of cases (depending on 'education'). with 25% of gay marriages liekely to divorce vs 75% of laesb. ones.

[@thoughtbodymanifest]

Combined experience, wisdom, & extended research into sustaining a successful romantic relationship! Absolutely terrific! This is who the younger generations should be listening to!

[@VaronPlateando]

that is 'old book of rules' craep. non-viable these days, with global www, globalised SMP, globalised gyn.fasc cancer + metastasing. younger gen.s won't listen (as xx.s) and BETTER shouldn't have selves gaslit (as gents) relatedly.

[@thomasjones4570]

Yet relationships were not based on romance before the 1900s. Its a modern concept that stems from romance novels, movies and TV.

[@jcDUBSS]

@@thomasjones4570so?

[@grantperkins368]

​@@thomasjones4570 a modern Western luxury? In many parts of the world (I'm in Asia) you'll find that they still aren't, but are based more on the need to continue the family line (still a lot of pressure on couples) and to gain full status in society. Shakespeare wrote Romeo and Juliet over 400 years ago, ... now I'm tempted to research the history of love and romance in Asian culture and literature

[@thomasjones4570]

@@grantperkins368The hell are you even talking about? Who said anything about modern or luxury? Who implied there were ZERO cases of people falling in love before it? Romeo and Juliet was a story about 2 people from FEUDING families falling in love, marrying IN SECRET with the entire story about how their families refuse to allow the marriage. Its a story that backs my point and does not refute it. Marriage was almost always either 2 families joining to increase their power or support themselves. Many cultures had or even still have arranged marriages. Those without it had long "courting" of the couple with the female being escorted leaving no real private time between them. The idea of romance as we no it today was "almost" non-existent 200 years ago.

[@willareeneacealbertini975]

You hit on a subject that was such a sore spot in our 50 year marriage. In our 30’s my husband couldn’t turn off from working. I read this one sentence in a self help book, “when you come home leave your work in the mailbox “ pick it up when you leave. That helped so much, and the reality of the need to work at home sometimes. Is be available when you come home and connect with your spouse and children, eat a meal. Then take the time to do some work. Listen to your partner and trust is huge in a relationship. Cuddle ❤👍

[@jainorr4915]

My ex used to to pick fights right before bed and then after hours of pointless arguing I’d try to go to sleep and he’d say “you promised we’d never go to bed angry” 😮‍💨 divorce has been great for my sleep hygiene ❤️🙏

[@esthermwangi1331]

😂😂😂 didn't expect that results

[@daisyroots8926]

He sounds like a narcissist

[@stevescuba1978]

Mine used to seethe when I would roll over and fall right to sleep, while she was too angry. She tried to kick me to the couch, and I refused. I told her, "even when I'm angry, I love you. I'm sleeping in my bed, period. If you can't sleep by my side because your anger is stronger than your love, then the couch is open." Sometimes, I'm surprised I ever woke up 😂

[@Stevo-klo45453]

You attitude triggered him maybe. Allot of you sound like men are the problem here

[@samaraisnt]

wtf. it’s giving baby throwing a tantrum for moms attention, not knowing how to address the REAL issue at hand…some grown adults, I swear.

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

Johns attention to Julie when she speaks is precious.

[@catsbooknook4204]

This was a wonderful episode! Thank you so much for interviewing both of them. The work they're doing is amazing, and it was nice seeing a healthy couple modeled. They very clearly love and respect each other. I loved that Julie asked John if she could add something rather than simply jumping in and adding what she felt needed to be said or explained. That takes practice! Hoping my library has their books and looking forward to sharing the information with my partner.

[@Rakel-iren]

I love that he is so vulnerable in the conversation and asks from his own life. It is very clear that he loves his wife and wants to understand what is best for them and her.

[@leighwills88]

I love how Julie turns and connects with John when talking about him.

[@oth4ever32]

Everytime when Julie speaks and John just looks at her so intently, I literally tear up! I have no idea why but it makes me want to cry because although that is such a small act of love, it is so big because people don't do these smalls things for their loved ones. And it's so simple and easy and we just don't do it often or at all

[@Tina-wk2pr]

This last part where they praise each other is so heartwarming 🥺🥺🥺🥺❤❤❤

[@mcrisantasj8242]

I was moved and touched by how both of them lovingly and genuinely answered Steven's question of what they mean or like about each other. I love that moment. ❤ Thank you for this amazing, helpful episode!

[@tinasparkles2434]

After hearing this lady speak for less than a minute, I liked this video immediately. What an amazing lady.

[@KevinKennedy-u5o]

The BEST interview of the Gottmans I have ever seen!! 🙏💌😘❤ Steven really did his homework on this one. I have never seen Julie Gottman so humored and engaged, you really brought out a connection that breathed personal resonance into their work with personal stories (their's and your's).

[@yaalove3736]

You see how John always looks at her. It’s so sweet. That “what does she mean to you” response made me cry

[@palinamusicofficial]

This is a extremely amazing conversation. So easy to listen to, bc people don’t interrupt, Steven (as always) is an amazing interviewer as well as the Gottmans seem so easy and effortlessly to talk to as they respect the conversation, listen, hear and ask. This may just be an interview that is a 12/10

[@3as1]

Why did he make me cry at the end ? He said his parents should have loved his sister better, and it's like i heard my brother say it. He was the only one loved in the family and it shows because he is successful and I'm a bit of a failure for lack of love growing up 😢😢

[@cindymadore]

I think maybe your parents were ill equipped to understand what they did to you regarding lack of love. You're not a failure because of their choices. Chances are you have inner strength beyond comprehension. Believe in that!!

[@Mercurystars4202]

I agree with you. It’s likely that “lack of love” affected you in a negative way and your parents are responsible for that harm. They contributed to some of the poor outcomes in your life. However, it’s never too late to try to do something about it. Look at your internal and external resources, allocate them appropriately, and plan your next moves. In most cases, the people who cause the harm can’t fix it, don’t know how to fix it, or don’t want to fix it. it’s usually up to us to fix it to the best of our abilities. Good luck.🍀

[@kmonea9850]

❤️🙏🏾

[@Abcdefghijklmnoplm]

You’re not a failure ❤❤❤

[@robertcervantes9843]

Cheer up. You're not alone. You've most likely overcome many such challenges in your life and will continue to learn and grow stronger. You are a winner and always have been. Give yourself credit.❤ I like you already. 😍

[@frappalina]

She acknowledged his talent of being able to concentrate... She acknowledged his differences. And appreciated them. What a woman. She knows his value and her own value. Love this conversation ❤

[@DivineLogos]

Most of the behaviors they recommend are a symptom of having a healthy calm well-regulated nervous system and having dealt with your traumas.

[@toomuchinformation]

Right.

[@stephaniegrover2250]

That is a very good point. It's very difficult to have a happy healthy relationship while walking around traumatized.

[@sherriflemming3218]

The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind And Body In The Healing Of Trauma---Bessell Van Der Volk The Untethered Soul by Micheal Singer Safe People by Henry Cloud Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller Getting The Love You Want by Harville Hendrix IMAGO Wired For Love by Dr Stan Tatkin Non Violent Communication by Marshall B Rosenberg PhD

[@ketket0725]

Just told my husband this! A person with unhealed trauma is primarily concerned with self protection, its going to be hard for them to have these conversations. Ask me how I know 😅

[@DivineLogos]

@@ketket0725 Yeah. Can't perceive or communicate correctly when in fight or flight mode.

[@Sadiqul_I]

This was unique, soothing and touching to see even almost 4 decades into the relationship between a woman in her 70s and man in his 80s there still giving eye contact and fondness to eachother on the podcast

[@Krinsta1]

Love has illuded me so far 59 years old. It's nice to see that some have found it and work on keeping it. The Gottmans do amazing work.

[@daisyroots8926]

Me too.. I’ve never been loved, only by my grandparents and now grandchildren

[@binagupta3308]

Work is never ending. A little coffee time when the spouse comes in from work helps a lot.

[@Mc3BAL]

This episode is so needed in this fast-food hookup generation with low attention span and digital loneliness…

[@hodenhugovonfickschnitzel8440]

Then pack it in 60 Seconds

[@janinekay]

Yeah because they’re constantly got their heads stuck in their smartphones 🙄

[@TheNinnyfee]

It's not just one generation. It's all generations.

[@grantperkins368]

​@@janinekay ironic, eh?mine was just stuck in mine for 2 hours!

[@janinekay]

@@grantperkins368 nooooo … don’t do it! 😉

[@kblake6841]

Today is our 28th anniversary & I think I'm the luckiest woman in the world. He's my hero.

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

And your husband is one of the luckiest man in the world to have a woman feel that way about him. I bless you both.❤❤

[@LagoLhn]

One of the absolute best Diary entries yet. The research is intuitive but so valuable. We spend years learning increasingly abstract topics in school and the system COMPLETELY IGNORES the subject matter that most heavily influences our happiness and our ability to adapt in relationships.

[@destineeirons]

I’ve never clicked so fast. These two are the true relationship experts out there!

[@pseudoscientist8010]

That is no one has ever heard of them...

[@wadoneniwho1880]

Women have, us guys. We dgaf. I like having money in my bank and absolutely zero problems in my life.

[@sookibeulah9331]

Me too. I’ve heard about the Gotmans but never heard an interview.

[@Whatorwellsaid21]

Absolutely agree.

[@Melissa-td6ln]

The best ones!

[@Kimathi_Baariu]

I love this couple , im 24 im about to get married. Im honestly happy because i can feel and appreciate what they are talking about. Thank you for your wisdom , much love and respect.

[@cindylouwho888]

I think your shows are great! You are such a great host… polite humble and kind… super refreshing to watch and listen to… thank you 🙏 😊

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

So glad to hear you love the show! What's been your favourite episode so far?? ❤️❤️

[@LMKTinyForest]

Agree completely. Big heart from Thailand ❤

[@thebluetwistie]

And I’m amazed by some of the guests he manages to have on his show. The Gottmans are the rockstars of couples therapy.

[@thebluetwistie]

@@TheDiaryOfACEO the gut health guy. Although aware of the concept of the gut biome, I had never heard the details of what it entails. It was empowering. It helps me make better food choices that not only look after my physical health better but also to look after my mood in a preventative way.

[@edwong4178]

If someone can’t or won’t work with you to resolve conflict, you don’t have a relationship. If anyone has to resort to the Four Horsemen to get their point across, it’s already over.

[@momaey24]

The 4 horsemen May i ask what that refers too ?

[@whatoncewas8480]

@@momaey24this couple has a synopsis called the 4 horsemen that demonstrate that a relationship is essentially doomed

[@idanielnicholas]

Gottmans! Incredible couples with relationship wisdom. Thank you Steven for such a great opportunity to learn from these amazing couples.

[@victoriasmith1897]

OMG Steven you asked SUCH insightful and deep questions! I’m sharing this to all My couple friends & clients. The best interview of the Gottmans I have ever heard!

[@hybeaus]

Being in a marriage that has been through ups and downs and continues to be challenging. The thing that give me power to keep turning towards the relationships and making the effort to improve it is reminding myself of the vows that I wrote when we got married and that those were my words and my promise that I made voluntarily and is my responsibility to uphold.

[@hdw237]

Same (well I didn't take any vows, we went to courthouse on his lunch break 😂). I just remind myself marriage is for life.

[@3as1]

This couple is goals. And it's only the beginning of the interview.

[@Whatorwellsaid21]

I love the Gottmans. Their research is an invaluable gift to humanity. If only more people knew about it and listened to it.

[@jo1681]

I love the Gottmans! I followed their advice and although I got a lot of pushback, I found a very loving partner. We even did the Eight Dates from their book and I really recommend regardless where you are on your journey with your partner.

[@sherriflemming3218]

Excellent book!

[@sylviagrimes01]

I love how they look at each other as each of them are talking. They really admire and respect each other.

[@eloisebrynlee]

They are so cute! 🥰 They have my deepest respect. 🫡

[@queenegemba732]

Oh my God! When you asked them what they mean to each other i think I actually cried! Such tenderness and truth. I love love it! No way would I take them seriously if I didn’t see this from them. That was the clincher for me! ❤

[@arieldickinson9865]

Omggg the way they look at each other at the end, just absolutely fills me with hope and joy. ❤

[@ljragsandfeathers]

I’m so like John. I have had to work so hard on responding to people when they talk to me - especially when I’m reading or writing. I get soooooo focused! John, from one hyper focused person to another, I feel you ❤

[@evanshaw17]

Dear Dr Gottman and John I was a student research assistant for these very things for two semesters and loved it. I admired your strength and compassion as I felt the department in some ways denigrated your having not chosen a Skinner approach to what is worthy of researched concepts. I’ve followed your work ever since. My dissertation was assisted by your insight as I chose earliest conjecture and which later became cognitive behavior therapy. As a successful practitioner as a forensic evaluator as a grant writer and being a pioneer in child sexual abuse awareness and treatment your ideas have been central to my life work. And to my marriage!!! Dr Berne Shaw

[@naturalebeing]

I don’t have my own love story yet, but my abuelita and my grandpa were happily married for 50 years. She’s a Nicaraguan immigrant who moved to San Francisco when she was a teenager with her mom. She dated a lot of guys, got close to marrying one, but her friend took her (I think she was 32) to a cookout one day and she says as soon as she saw my grandpa flipping burgers, she was done looking. They hit it off but I guess he played cat & mouse with her for a few months (he was a Casanova) and then they ran into each other again and he took it seriously. They both loved to travel, both loved socializing/having fun, both worked for the government. But my abuelita is the super talkative one and my grandpa was always more of the charming but silent type. My grandpa barely got a word in around my abuelita, but it didn’t bother him. My grandpa was a huge flirt and had a temper, but my abuelita didn’t let it get to her. In fact she would laugh when he got worked up. She found all his “flaws” endearing. And he found hers the same. My parents were never in love, (my mom tells me that a lot) and they’ve been separated 10 years. But at least I know real love exists with my grandparents. My grandpa died 7 years ago and my abuelita, at 86, has a new “companion” as of a year… but she still says she misses him so much. He will never be replaced to her.

[@SuspensionTruth]

There's a lot of life to summarize in just a few lines and you sure shared the flavour of each person. Two people who really have fun together - is there anything better? When we have great examples of deep love it helps us discern with whom to engage. Thanks for sharing, commonsensecappy.

[@pinkmacprincess]

I am so jealous you got to interview the Gottmans. Bravo sir.

[@laverdadconjosie6482]

I cried towards the end when he ask them about what they mean to each other 😢I felt so jealous in a good way this is the love that at of us would love to have 😞

[@adolfo.sirias]

This couple is admirable at first sight. She seems like a jewel in Dr. John's toolchest. I'm touched

[@sallyjohnson9504]

I enjoy this podcast because its so many ppl in toxicity relationships and marriages it becoming the norm. It good to see and understanding the value and meaning of love, commitment, and support from your partner.

[@natinatyoutube]

Steven seemed very relaxed and open and present in this interview. Body language wise, I never saw him spread out his arms like that and doing such large hand gestures. The couple is such a delight as well. However, I really enjoy when the host knows how to adapt his energy to the guest's and the topic discussed. Steven does that perfectly.

[@cinthyab.bostwick7098]

This show if full of excitement, entertainment and wisdom. The way Steven delivers and receives the questions and the structure of the channel is very enjoyable to me. Thank you so much Diary of a CEO

[@stiemogo]

OMG. His answer to the question at the end really hit me hard. I’m out walking my dog, crying a little. My sibling and I experienced very different upbringing, especially from our mother. We had two very different childhoods. I was not loved, and I still feel unloved, and it is a deep Emptiness that cannot be filled. I’m also very musical, like thisguests sister, but hearing that he thinks of her, and cares about the experience she had, makes me feel seen.

[@lovelyrainflowerfarm]

I saw their picture and immediately clicked. This will be some of the most beneficial content you will publish.

[@meganhartmann180]

Wow! Thank you for putting together this interview! Truly one of the most inciteful and valuable podcasts I've ever listened to. I love how the Gottmans interact and play off one another and validate each other. Will definitely check out some of their (many!) books.

[@peterruane9220]

I can’t escape the feeling the host is trying to do the right thing but his relationship with his partner is definitely rowing upstream

[@noxxie1496]

I thought I was the only one, I'd be surprised if they marry.

[@k.h.6991]

​@@riri1718she didn't find him attractive? He's hot! He's also financially a catch. Doesn't mean they make it, but it might well explain (at least in part) why she came back.

[@kellyeverett]

Thought the same thing

[@rosehannah4845]

I love them, they are adorable. I love the way she puts her hand on him, she seems very caring. He pays attention to her and really listens to her. So cute.

[@NatashaVincent]

Their modeling is exceptional. Watch them in each other's presence in addition to what they say 🥰

[@marinady784]

I was thinking the same. They teach /model by example! I loved how she was touching his hand before jumping in the conversation , looking at him carefully/ attentively , etc ❤

[@VidhathShetty]

Thank you for bringing people who know what they are talking about. This Couple is a legend at what they do. Thanks Steven 😊

[@peaceforyou-ag]

In July 2023, my 6 year trauma relationship ended and I went on a quest to heal myself and love myself. My journey has been nothing like the traditional self-help world but I learned a LOT. In the process, I had to come to terms with the fact that both my parents never loved me but just used me. I had to choose myself over them, over everyone else. Now, people who used to f*** me over can't even come near me. I see through thier deceptions. I naturally avoid any woman who don't have self love. At the end of the day, we are all with ourselves and I'm so happy and proud that I'm comfortable with myself and I love myself deeper and deeper each day. All I ever wanted was me and I have me now!!

[@clareryan3843]

My family drama is a bit similar atm🤦 REALLY SUCKS living through it😩 they are all narcissistic people, Im the collatoral damage in their bid for world domination🙄😬 I feel pretty stupid (left home at 18, came back after 30 years away in 2019, took 2 years to realise what a dreadful bad idea it was (COVID made it tricky to see the true picture). Now Im on the backfoot and being kicked out🤦😩 I am going to be ok eventually; sucks right now😬 but there is a pathway through and I GET TO ESCAPE👍👍 Im sorry for your family history, I empathise, I know there will be a exit path for you that will take you to a wonderful loving supportive welcoming community and validates and values you and all the stress and anxiety in your life will melt away like frost in the morning🙂👍👍

[@KittyBootie]

Great interview, Steven. Julie Gottman is just amazing at communicating. I loved her description and endorsement of practicing empathy with our partners. She is clear and a great listener. Will you bring them back again? There is so much more you could dig into with more time. The Gottman’s are both treasures we are lucky to have. Gottman interview part 2 please!