The Nostalgia | 2023 Honda Civic Type R

[@KealeyOnCars]

It’s an incredibly fun and capable driver’s car. The biggest problem: Honda dealerships. Dealerships were listing these for $10-30k over MSRP, and despite prices coming down, it’s sort of ruined it’s reputation as it became the “markup” car, not just an affordable, fun hot hatch.

[@anthonyfa18]

It’s over a year. I’m waiting for my car. My dealership never updates. Me and I am in Canada as well. It’s totally ridiculous. Trying to get one.

[@cj9318]

@@anthonyfa18Me and I am in America

[@cjsnylons]

Around Chicago prices are coming down and there are some 2023 models dealers are getting rid of. I can confirm one sold for "only" $3k over. So, prices are coming down so cast a wide net and you should be able to find one.

[@1gonzoone]

I bought mine 15k over msrp 😢. It’s a 2024 brand new.

[@garysinger8247]

Seeing a bunch for msrp near me now

[@LateNightDateNight]

Former FK8 owner, felt when the Type S came out it was going to be the ride for me. Went to the dealer a few times, just couldn’t connect with it. The body lines are kind of strange, the interior pretty lack luster, kept trying to tell myself “it’s a better Type R”. Finally went back today, did the same dance and said fuck this thing, went and purchased a 24 R LOL. The R is Honda in its purest form, finally embraced that shit. Great video, summed up my exact feelings.

[@axelessforester]

I am having same battle as you…

[@tsywong]

Ditto. Got the CTR with no regrets.

[@1anre]

What was the out the door price you paid and which Canadian dealership sorted you out ?

[@LateNightDateNight]

@@1anre I’m not in Canada

[@MrJSIW]

I bought the Type S for MSRP. I'm in my mid 30s and I need the softer ride and wanted the ELS sound system. Type R is definitely the more special feeling car though.

[@Utubesuxmycock]

I got s2000 cr, 2018 type R, and integra type S. But still want this baby. But can't justify 55k-60k total today

[@ka124as]

Test drove the type s, bought a type r. Type s felt too soft for me. The sound dampening also made the car feel dull. Also, a popping exhaust is not a good sounding exhaust. People forget the sound and tone of a good sounding exhaust bc all we have are turbo cars nowadays. The type s body work also looked like a body kit and less of a design choice. Both the type s and type r are great, but really just depends what you’re looking for. For me, I like the sound and feel of the car. There are just too many car to choose if you want comfort, so much less if you want a 4 door that is fun to drive.

[@1anre]

4 door that's fun to drive is like 3 Corolla GR Type R FL5 WRX all in manual as I assume that's what you mean by fun to drive. Which other brand new cars fit this bill?

[@chrissimmons9969]

I paid 5k over for my CTR. I wasn’t happy about it but the car is just so much fun to drive.

[@mgobluevictor]

Bought a new 23 Type R about 2 weeks ago at MSRP - it's becoming a bit easier to find them at that price. I was actually looking for an Si at local dealer and they didn't have any, but had this CTR. They let me test drive it and I made a deal for it that day. No forced accessories or markup. I think they WERE forcing a protection package for it, but it sat for 2 months and maybe my timing was perfect -- I just had to finance through them and they waived it.

[@1anre]

Tell me this is the US and not Canada, yeah?

[@Utubesuxmycock]

Total?

[@SGP_TypeR]

Just bought SGP CTR for 46,165 in San Diego, not MSRP but it is the lowest I’ve seen aside from 1 other KZbinr. I absolutely love this car aside from the back up camera

[@ethanconsolvo9104]

Which dealership? Was that your OTD price?

[@cjsnylons]

Waiting for my SGP- how do you like the color? That seems like a great price compared to so many others.

[@ethanconsolvo9104]

@@cjsnylons are you in San Diego? If so, what dealer and what price?

[@Marvelous0071]

I believe excitement comes from being connected and being in control of the car, the more responsive the vehicle is the better. A sports car should ignite your senses in my opinion. These new age cars to technical and based on figures. They are very synthetic and that's do to safety regulations and over compensation for driver errors and inputs. Then there is also the issue with cars have to do everything. More features and gimmicks are redefining what a car is suppose to be defined as in category. For example I want a "sports" car that is fast and handles good, has to comfortable enough for daily driving and also capable of performing on the track. It's has to have all the updated tech with great interior, come optioned with a standard, have an active exhaust system, great value for dollar (affordable and practical) There are so many things that people need in order to be satisfied with a sports car. A sports car in my opinion is emotional luxury art on wheels. It's not a car that does it all, it's a car that reflects the drivers emotional expression. From the way it sounds, looks and feels. Notice that I didn't mention performance. Performance always seeks for ways to improve, thus this brings us to my stunning conclusion. In the pursuit of performance many things are over looked and forgotten. The things that brought us joy and peace of mind are now being replaced with the pursuit of happiness in performance, wanting to prove which car is "better". Its completely ego driven. As time progresses performance is getting better but people are becoming less satisfied with the vehicles, yes they are excited and happy when the car releases and then something new comes along and then the cars are totally forgotten in some cases. There are a lot of "modern" day sleepers. And people find these sleepers based on the nostalgia from previous owners who would say things like "I remember when this car came out it was so quick, good looking, affordable, unique, and reliable. Now a days cars are being to look more and more the same, there to expensive, you can't do lot of work yourself on the car, most cars come with the same standard features. The only thing worth comparing are the stats and figures. Well that's my opinion, thanks for reading, if you have you agree or disagree please comment down below, I'm open for interpretation. 😅

[@MrFact01]

YES!!!!! definitely my next car

[@sbklvr]

I traded my Macan in on a FL5, lol.. the two best vehichles one can drive these days, imo. Macan is the perfect suv and the type R is the perfect daily sports car. Unfortunately i can only have one car because having both would be ideal.

[@donteadoss]

Personally thankful for this new gen 🔥 … b’c the last gen was outright cool but not aesthetically cohesive at all as one of the ugliest vehicles on the market. Honda has really upped their game in terms of style (except the Ridgeline LOL) and it’s dope to see.

[@atlfun08]

Gotta get cooling seats on my next car. Love the front though.

[@ElViperr408]

I can’t wait to trade in my 22 Si for a boost blue Type R

[@trevorlupi2740]

We just bought a 24 Black Type R 2 weeks ago in Columbus Ohio. Paid 53000 out the door. Monthly payment 620.00. Down payment 8695.00 with wheel and tire package. I feel we got lucky finding a black one and such a good price

[@theonlydd4e577]

Lol sorry bro that’s robbery

[@odljorel]

They had it for $60k but I got it down to $52k. Should be arriving in a week or so!

[@ACCELER8TV]

Amazing!! Well done!

[@andywithout]

Imagine a New Veloster N with a facelift and 4 doors plus the hatch... we can dream lol, I love Honda but 50k+ for a Civic is a bit silly, for that price i would buy an Used Porsche

[@1anre]

Used Porsche and enjoy the workshop bills too. Ha

[@alexgutierrez7029]

Type R ❤

[@alengreen589]

The Type R is a little bit better on the track as the Elantra N and for that the Civic cost USD $10 - 15k more, if you have the money for the Civic yes but if not the Elantra is a good option.

[@philochristos]

I don't understand why they would make that gear shifter aluminum. It's definitely going to get too hot to touch during a Texas summer. They should've covered it in leather or something.

[@elonmusk8667]

This car needs 100 more hp

[@mrnrfan182]

I’m about to buy a 2024 Championship White CTR. Price is 2k above MSRP…however, the dealer Im working with gave me 2k more for my FK8 type R than any other dealer in the area. My area also credits your trade so you only pay tax on the difference. So 2k more for my trade and a 2k tax credit sealed the deal. Not technically MSRP but damn close. I did test drive the Type S. The additional length, more subdued dash, basic seats, and 7k price difference just didn’t convince me. I love the styling of the Type S but I also love keeping 7k in my pocket. I’ll miss the fun and in your face styling of the FK8. But the infotainment was awful, the all or nothing comfort / sport / +R modes meant spent most months (I live in New England) in comfort mode because roads here are brutal. And my FK8 was black. Mean as hell but goddamn, I will never buy a black car again. Throw in the fact that I bought that car at MSRP and just traded it for the price I bought it at and it was a no brainer.

[@1anre]

What was so bad about getting a black FK8?

[@2bunphettered788]

Type-R exterior is nicer than the Type-S.👍🏾 Type-S seats are nicer than the Type-R.👍🏾

[@LateNightDateNight]

No one who has sat in both seats would say this, every reviewer shits on the Type S seats

[@2bunphettered788]

@@LateNightDateNight I only 💩 on 🚽, not car seats. 😉

[@philochristos]

I agree with this.

[@sgillard960]

Type Rs are not drag cars. Why do reviewers insist on drag racing them?

[@alexmejia5464]

Got a rally red Type R Fl5 Paid 10k over msrp in May 2023... $6,370 for deposit and to get it out of the dealer I have made 8 monthly payments of $1,067 = $8,536 Total payments $14,906 Still owe like $50-51k

[@looneyyang1326]

lol. Go watch some Dave Ramsey

[@MukhtarMuhammad-zx6rt]

Nice civic

[@rudyestrela836]

Would love to hear your take on the 11th gen Si

[@devongee1776]

The minute Hyundai gives the N a hatch is the minute Honda loses another 25% of their buyer for this product. Right now the Civic is winning for practicality reasons, not value reasons.

[@1anre]

Hatch N for the Elantra or which model?

[@devongee1776]

@@1anre ?

[@marcoz326]

Thats an awesome car, but wow, 55K msrp, crazy expensive.

[@user-bg7ot7hc3e]

here in australia its non negotiable $72,600 ......i gotta wait 6 months till my sonic grey arrives

[@soulessvalleys8404]

0 percent of the world cares about Australia

[@portalmaster1685]

U mentioned that the integra type s doesn't have a carbon fibre spoiler but it does its a dealer option

[@asiangrafx]

More of a lip

[@shivenreddy5328]

all my local dealers in nyc have them for around 53 to 55k

[@mannygonzalez4178]

This NEEDs to be at the very least 400hp and be in the low 4 secs in the 0-60

[@MukhtarMuhammad-zx6rt]

Im a Honda fam

[@jongib6096]

Great car but idk man, Nearly $50k + Fees & Mark ups for a 315hp FWD 4 Cyl 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@1anre]

What car has the panache and fun this package has and is brand new tofay?

[@1anre]

Wanted to learn more about the Canadian specific features it has just as the Canadian Civic Si is notches above the American Civic Si

[@alichaudhry12]

I don't think there is much other than the cdn cars are much cheaper. The bad news is no one can seem to buy one, and only available in three colours instead of five. I've been waiting over a year for mine...

[@1anre]

@alichaudhry12 are you serious? What dealership in Canada took your order and what was the final amount you'd be paying for it, was there a mark up or still $55K CAD from the Honda website? The Si in Canadian spec is so well advantaged over the American one. Thought the Canadian Type R will have heated bucket seats, heated steering wheel, fog lights, etc, that the American one lacks..

[@alichaudhry12]

@@1anre I live in a small town in southern Ontario so talked to my local dealer. They couldn't get me a 23 model but they emailed me a couple of weeks ago that I'll get a 24 this spring. Honda jacked up the MSRP on 24s which sucks but it's still less than what the American cars cost if you do a direct conversion.

[@mgobluevictor]

I think the Canadian version has heated front seats and has the parking sensors. There may be others, but I think those are two difference from the US version.

[@1anre]

If it has heated front​/rear seats, and the heated steering wheel tool- then it might be a worthy upgrade from the Canadian Si, else it'll be hell driving it during the winter months in Canada @mgobluevictor

[@kpkf45]

We want new Porsche Cayenne S suv 2024 🔥🌟

[@kevinlindsey9537]

I paid $50K for mine MSRP $45K

[@philochristos]

That's pretty good compared to what I've been hearing.

[@sam3r_11]

i noticed your ontario plates how were you able to order this and get it in 6 months? i have been waiting since launch in 2022 with a deposit in ?

[@ACCELER8TV]

This is a Honda Canada Press Car.

[@sam3r_11]

@@ACCELER8TV got it thanks for the reply

[@1anre]

What dealership in Ontario did you order through? What did you have to put down as deposit and what was the final out the door price with HST/GST tax?

[@sam3r_11]

@@1anre i got lucky to be the first one that reached out to a dealership in thunder Bay called gore motors... they were honest and straight forward didn't play games, it was a long 2 year wait and during that time i was growing worries and skeptical but in the end they were great and came through... really good experience and friendly staff...i put down 1k or 1.5k i think...i asked for some accessories but i paid msrp... i think with accessories and some warranty and tax and everything i wanted it was about 62k or just under and some change

[@1anre]

That's really painstaking Did you pay cash or financed it? Cause out the door with tax, the car should be in the low 70ks CAD? ​@@sam3r_11

[@HANUMAN7454]

Civics are way waaay sicker than Teslas.

[@Fucking_Legend]

I wish i had the cash to buy a Type r :(

[@CMCNestT]

Needs a bigger wing. More downforce when doing 250 mph.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

The hype for the CTR has started coming down, which is great to see, because I really am looking forward to laughing at all the idiots who paid over sticker for this Civic.

[@AndyDufresne4]

I spy Dark Man X

[@albertogonzalez1746]

My gf said I’m not allowed to buy this bc she doesn’t like it

[@nealmcdaniel7876]

That's where it starts, my friend. Stay sharp!

[@kevinlindsey9537]

That’s when you know she’s not the one.

[@tsywong]

My bride of almost 30yrs said, “Yes!” (That’s how you know you married the right one!) of course, this is after 27 years of savings and buying used cars and more “practical” cars.

[@1anre]

Tell her to tell her family you bought one and there's nothing her or them can do about it

[@slavkogojkovic1551]

front looks really good but back is meh

[@ka124as]

The lower portion could have been done a little bit better lol. I feel like they just cut out a square and said “ok here’s room for the exhaust”. Maybe they knew people would change it, but yah I look at it like they def didn’t try too hard

[@eutanasio31]

Lol competidor 😅😅😅 the Hyundai is garbage in al ways