The Optimal Contact Points For Aiming

Discover which technique is optimal for aiming, while also learning the pros and cons for each and when they should be used.
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[@StruthGaming]

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[@TheMainEvnt601]

Is there a way to donate to the channel ?

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[@StruthGaming]

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[@TheMainEvnt601]

I’m tryna get banned without cheating dammit!! Lol

[@adnanadel4122]

This video came right when I needed it, as I've been giving the Logitech G303 another try for around 3 weeks or so, I've actually realized that my grip is kind of adapting to the mouse by having more contact with my ring finger exactly like what you mentioned, and for the 1st time since the release of the G303 shroud edition I actually felt that I'm aiming better with it, and I've tested it 3 times before. It's so amazing that a simple thing like this could have such a great effect. And it's so amazing to see you mention it right when I needed, because I wasn't actually sure about it, but now I feel much better since I just got a confirmation from you mate. Thanks a lot mate, you truly deserve the "Aiming Coach" title. Keep those valuable tips coming mate. P.S. I can't wait to see part 2 of your last video mate.

[@StruthGaming]

That's awesome mate, it's certainly a polarizing mouse so i'm glad to hear you're finding some success with it. When I was making this video I was worried that it was too niche and perhaps it wasn't worth doing. Great to see it helped out!

[@rvD_869]

can you make video about how to calm when playing game plz?

[@iamlamprey]

yes please @StruthGaming

[@coolbrotherf127]

You just have to think about being calm and take some deep breaths to slow your heart rate down. Knowing that you're just playing for fun and that losing or dying isn't worth getting mad at is important. Then just practice until you're confident in your skill. Panicking usually results from being inexperienced or indecisive.

[@StruthGaming]

It's in the works :)

[@rvD_869]

@@StruthGaming thanks mate!

[@connorwilson2423]

In my experience a lot of tension build up comes from not anxiety but actually anticipation. Whether that be anticipating a fight, winning said fight, losing and over prediction. Stop anticipating, take a breath, have faith in your ability and make them have to anticipate you. A lot of that tension will be derived from lack of certainty in your movement so be certain in yourself atleast 😀

[@faideastro2760]

honestly, i just started using TenZ mouse grip for g pro wireless. Feels flawless, ring finger supports both large flicks and micromovements, pinky doesnt rub on the mousepad hard, you have a firm palm grip on the back end of your mouse, and your pointer and middle finger are claw so you can make micro adjustments etc.

[@ValentineNTT]

Appreciate the explanation and depth you go into my man! Every video is a goldmine

[@StruthGaming]

Much appreciated :) It's nice to hear these more niche videos are still informative.

[@ValentineNTT]

​@@StruthGaming You have no idea how much, I really expect you to blow up as a KZbinr since many people who'll seek better aim will find themselves learning from these videos.

[@TysonASMR]

As a new PC player I really appreciate your videos bro 😁

[@iEternalnite]

It's interesting how something so minute can impact the control and security of your aim. I take pride in my handwriting, and you enlightened me that hyperextending my fingers was the reason. I'm excited to see how flexion can improve my aim.

[@nigelblue2447]

5:23 first frame of the clip had me dying XD my deadass thought u were tryna aim for that big head

[@StruthGaming]

Lmao, I never noticed that but it's so obvious now.

[@Raveehh]

Best videos just pleasure to watch =) giving a second try for the g303shroud since im pincer clawing. Might go back to the vaxee xe but gonna give this a solid chance now.

[@StruthGaming]

Thank you so much :)

[@triexx]

not only u taught me how to grip my mouse but fixed my messy handwriting a little

[@4bangerkovaaks]

What if I'm bad with all grips Mr Struth?

[@StruthGaming]

I'm working on it :)

[@TheSunIsMyDestroyer]

I play with razer viper mini and deathadder v3. I aim slightly better with viper mini in terms of precision aiming but i’m way more stable with the deathadder. In the game i play valorant, stability and consistency is key. I lose my grip far to easily with the viper mini because it is too small, i still play good with with both mice. My vertical aim is greater with thr small mouse but the majority of aiming comes from horizontal aiming in valorant anyways so the bigger mouse is good for that

[@TheMainEvnt601]

I’ve been noticing that when I got right I flex my pinky a little more and when o got left I flex my thumb a little more. But I’m constantly tinkering and allow my grip and no nets to naturally evolve instead forcing anything. When I’m off I usually always tell why know. That’s crucial it’s improving. Attack your weaknesses!!!!

[@veirnon3822]

I needed this one. Thanks bro!

[@WestProter]

I don't think ANYONE other than you and 5 people are physically able to curl their fingers backwards for more surface area. How do you do that?

[@NURSE344]

There are plenty of great aimers who use hyperextension on the ring and/or pinkie fingers. Examples: tenz, shroud, zekee, lolcarrots, dracoo, myself included, etc. I think it really just comes down to physiology, because I cannot use flexion in my ring finger at all. My aim just goes to shit due to lack of grip security.

[@user-zu1ix3yq2w]

I can do it but I also have basically zero flexion ability.

[@gtabro1337]

Why are there tons of mice with a thumb rest but almost 0 with a pinky rest? As mice are super light now we don't need to squeeze them with our full hand anymore, especially work mice, the wrist is enough, but my pinky constantly drags...

[@pav1u]

1 year later this coating doesn't grip and still trying to get a consistent grip with this dav3 wired

[@jeremiahbates6431]

i think he just fixed my horrible hand writing lol

[@CounterNarrative_]

it's honestly completely subjective, while you can tell people you'd not recommend palm, focusbf, tfue and symphunny and many other great aimers all palm, people should just experiment, the baseline physiology isn't even the same for everyone

[@sofarsogod]

Its crazy the fact that what he recommends is my exact fingertip claw hybrid relaxed grip xD

[@kyoobi]

Hey Struth, I have a question: What about what your wrist does when holding a mouse? Should you have it tilt/angle it towards the right or make it straight have have your entire wrist on the mousepad

[@StruthGaming]

It will depend on your physiology, but when holding a mouse with your right hand, the left side of the wrist will likely be tilted a little higher. I wouldn't force it into a certain position. So long as your lower palm has some contact with the mousepad you're all good.

[@od_avenon]

You're as obsessive about grip as i am

[@morganfreeman8230]

thumbnail is gonn bring numbers

[@TheMainEvnt601]

I’ve been playing with the flex a lot. I’ll do speed switch and I’ve been playing with using the flex to do small micro flicks lol. Being doom or jointed is allowing me to really explore my tool kit.

[@LogPile444]

this is the first time I've seen you put the G303 down 😂

[@StruthGaming]

Hah, well spotted. I'm still maining it, thought i'd use some common shapes more people could relate to for this one.

[@LogPile444]

@@StruthGaming It's fun to experiment 🤙

[@Appoh]

my fingers don't even hyper-extend so i never even thought about holding it any other way

[@something990]

Rip

[@newera3757]

So the bottom part of your thumb and pinky is touching the pad?

[@oWiKio]

Eth0s grip 0:16 😂

[@Bootskie]

I am decent at aiming but since im color blind + im half blind like 20/8 on my right eye and 20/6 on my left eye, any tips on getting good?

[@StruthGaming]

I don't have much experience with either to give a completely informed opinion unfortunately. For color blind solutions, KovaaK compiled some resources here which may help - www.kovaak.com/colorblind-gaming/ For the vision, the most impactful gameplay tip I can think of would be to move your mouse as little as possible. Try to only move it when you're actively aiming at something or changing direction. By keeping your screen as still as possible, enemy movement becomes much more noticeable. Instead of discerning between an enemy and the background visually, lean more heavily into discerning what's moving or not on your screen (environments will be mostly static, even when walking around, whilst enemy movement should appear much faster, even if they're just walking around. Hope that helps!

[@Bootskie]

@@StruthGaming tysm

[@StruthGaming]

You're most welcome, let me know how you go and I may be able to find some more solutions if needed.

[@Bootskie]

@@StruthGaming yeah tysm your a life saver forsh

[@user-zu1ix3yq2w]

Can you use real measurements next time? Thx

[@redwanlf5609]

Bro i have problem to find a grip for deathadder v 3 pro .can u maybe help

[@frozzenogv2357]

About the mouse mod you talked about on your last video for the xm1r, is the mod specific for that mouse or is it like something that you can use on other mice?

[@StruthGaming]

Any mice :) there's 8 mice on my desk with it atm.

[@frozzenogv2357]

@@StruthGaming another thing, do you still use the mouseaccel program to fix the sensor orientation?

[@StruthGaming]

For sure, so long as there's a skew to be fixed. I'm still using it and can't imagine playing without it now.

[@frozzenogv2357]

@@StruthGaming I've been using it for a few days but every few hours I see myself changing the value to a higher one even though the value I had before was doing straight lines but then they ended up diagonal again, do you think that's my brain messing with it or maybe I'll end up on a value that I'll never change?

[@frozzenogv2357]

I'm currently at -13.05, it seems quite high

[@anthonylude3359]

So should i use this grip or the grip Who is in the optimal mouse grip Video Who only the tips of the Finger are in contact and the Palm

[@karp8]

Do you have a warmup video coming soon?

[@StruthGaming]

Not currently in the works, but it's a good idea. I'll add it to the list!

[@handsomeassassin]

Thank you my handsome brother for all the information like 👍😅

[@ThePlayerMerio]

My pinky is broken so i cant use it for claw/palm grip.

[@TechnoL33T]

I put my pinky down on the mousepad and use it as a reference point! Pinky is super important!

[@iamlamprey]

absolutely minmaxing

[@StruthGaming]

I'm sure all this knowledge will be very handy in an apocalypse.

[@ashfauzzamanaronno6606]

What would be good mouse shapes for the claw grip that have more dexterity

[@Chickn3000]

bro has a beef with palm guys

[@mangopyramid8838]

My grip is quite funky. I use a claw grip, but my ring and pinky fingers are flat against the side of the mouse, while my index and middle fingers are far into the center of the mouse. Can get uncomfortable, but the result is some of the best aim you will ever see (in my opinion)

[@tomikomo]

wait what you mean index and middle far into the center? can you upload picture to imgur?

[@james-bx4wr]

​​@@tomikomohe pretty much means straight pinky and ring (like palm), heavily curled index and middle (like a really aggressive claw)

[@theartofcompetition5965]

Great vid man. If you are interested i would love to have you on the podcast sometime

[@dhruvsrivastava990]

Do you guys have your knuckles on the mouse

[@seilougan2929]

guys, if you have around 15-18 cm and using claw grip, just take cooler master mm720... it will feels like you just rest your hand on top of the mouse and have a perfect grip for your claw/fingertip gripstyle if you have minihand like around 12-13cm, you can use palm tho i have 16cm hand and it's perfect for my clawgrip don't fooled by the shape and size, try it and you will know it was unexpectedly good shape and comfortable to use

[@coolbrotherf127]

My fingers physically can't even hyper extend like that. Dude has Jello for bones.

[@StruthGaming]

Hah, well they technically don't have to hyper-extend to have the pads on the surface. But without it you may need some grip gymnastics to make it happen.

[@TheMainEvnt601]

You still like the g303 better than the razers? ?? Lemme know I had one when first started mouse and keyboard but I got rid of it.

[@StruthGaming]

Yeah still maining the G303 SE, just been using the Razer mice in some ergonomic videos because more people can relate to the shapes.

[@TheMainEvnt601]

@@StruthGaming I’m thinking about trying it again now that I some what know what the heck I’m doing now.

[@Ruemir007]

Hey struth, what do you use to make your g303 a little larger? (That green thing lol)

[@StruthGaming]

Sort of answered this is the other reply, but just some double sided tape. You can find ones made to hand pictures or even outdoor lights etc that have a layer of foam between each side which is where the width comes in. There may be some more elegant options out there, but I do know that this one is cheap, easy and it works.

[@Donbros]

I kinda cycle in between with these newer mice and its kinda annoying 😂

[@TheGreatBandoodler]

Mouse grip is something I have issues with in aiming. I pretty much exclusively play apex, and I'm VERY into movement. I tap strafe enough that I have to keep my middle finger on the scroll. Is there any good way to use 3 fingers on top of the mouse without sacrificing that comfort in aim?

[@kaptaka]

You don't need 3 fingers on your mouse to be able to do any mouvement tech. I advise you to start learning with only 2 fingers, as it will not be that hard to transition between the two.

[@TheGreatBandoodler]

@kaptaka I've mastered it with 3 fingers, I'm talking about the lack of truly fine aim I have. Advanced movement techs like chaining ras strafes or pito strafes *technically* don't require you to use 3 fingers, but it allows me to shoot at any point in the strafe instead of having to take my finger off to tap strafe. Not having the third finger makes a noticeable impact in micro tracking that I'd like to correct.

[@senseirbw2395]

Skill issue just grow a 6th finger

[@kaptaka]

@@TheGreatBandoodler Well in that case I can understand your point. But ngl it 's going to be pretty hard for you to control precisely the mouse with only the pinky on one side

[@TheGreatBandoodler]

@kaptaka yeah, I have decent control, it's really micro that I miss out on by not having that full support

[@bampfv]

Whats use the pad mean

[@TheMainEvnt601]

I also try to let all my flexing and tension be at ease until I acquire the target. Then I use them once I’m on it. I always try to hit the center of the targets in static click and speed switch. Top 3.6% on speed switch in aim lab and top 8% on static click. I just went to mnk last June. Struggled the first size months. Until I found this guy !!! For me it’s about making all the movement as natural as possible.

[@StruthGaming]

That's awesome mate, looks like you're on a great trajectory. Adjusting the tension for when you need it works really well. Realistically you can't do a fast/crisp flick without it, and there's not much point maintaining higher tension outside of aiming. It just builds fatigue and wastes energy.

[@TheMainEvnt601]

@@StruthGaming you need to check out the new supergrip from pulsar the precut shit. You can lottery out these little dots right where you fingers go. Flex on flex off danielson 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ACE112ACE112]

i don't have large hands that can arch on the side like that

[@ZB_Etown]

Came here to get a better grip but my handwriting got better 😂

[@noble_lemon]

You sound like Optimum Tech

[@Frame2]

Not really. Optimum got a way deeper voice

[@Donbros]

But what to do if get fingers tired so fast. I just need grip that helps plat extebsivy. G305 seems to let me play longest

[@delunk5906]

Just the tip boys.

[@elaves_png]

i use pal, grip and have the pinky off

[@2GreeDie]

Guys, hear me out, for those slippery mouse, Pulsar supergrip.

[@WiseWeeabo]

pinch is best

[@omenapoika11]

Vt matty is propably one of the best aimers in the world and he is using palm grip. I would say anygrip that feels good is the best grip for you. I dont care if you grip the mouse sideways or backwards. Most often people go for claw, fingertip or palm grip. But there are some professionals with extremely weird grips too. So pick your poison 😅

[@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я]

Exactly.

[@thebookmantwo5254]

i cant in bend my pinkie 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@DzGamingFPS2023]

my problem is ping

[@Jinx_200]

Wtf is ur ping

[@DzGamingFPS2023]

@@Jinx_200 internet

[@V1c._.]

First

[@Milkykt]

these videos are pointless. grip is all preference. respectfully

[@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я]

Exactly.

[@Rzscb]

I actually tried it and it feels better imo

[@Giraffenfleisch]

Nah

[@ЗАЛиПАШКА-ы6б]

You can learn to shoot with a middle mouse on a monitor, etc., but not everyone can think and quickly process information, so such content will not be very helpful for those who really want to get into e-sports, etc., you’ll just waste time, even if you have ideal conditions, everything will depend on the driver , and not from an expensive, comfortable steering wheel!