The TRUE STORY Behind LeBron James' Decision

Gilbert Arenas Tells The TRUE STORY Behind LeBron James' Decision as he and the Gil's Arena Crew breaks down his infamous decision to join the Miami Heat, peeling back the curtain to discuss what factored into his decision and reveal that Miami wasn't even the King's first choice.
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[@SlowedWings91]

That’s the part everyone is missing, Lebron left a team with the BEST RECORD IN THE LEAGUE. They won 61 games the year before he left and 66 games the year before that and he decided to leave. Just ask yourself why. Second leading scorer averaged 15. He didn’t have enough to win a ring and the Cavs were not going to get him the right help so he left, but yet yall say he took the easy way out. How?

[@JCMthebrand]

Also best record. He was the record lol

[@TLR1988]

Bro they all know this but just like white supremacists and racist trolls, they know the truth but they have all the ammo to gaslight and lie in our face only to keep their GOAT in place all while knowing others will back then just to bother his supporters. We all have eyes but people choose the reality they want to see and accept regardless of evidence or video proof. We've never seen anything like LeBron, yet MJ fans eyes stop working when he plays.

[@humfredobrowm6408]

People just wake up to hate on lebron because they don't have nothing else to do ,just let lebron live

[@JCMthebrand]

@@Bballer3407 you know he’s poster is saying that Bron didn’t take the easy way out right?

[@lamonteezy]

@@JCMthebrandONG! 😂

[@thetalentedmisterheat2500]

Kmart faces when he listen is priceless, you can tell that he listening to understand even if he don't agree. Great example

[@mikegreen1696]

This is a brilliant comment

[@toddlemmon01]

When it’s all said and done and his teammates and competition give their interviews, the documentary is going to be crazy.

[@scarletspider21]

I envision the doc to have all 2000's era players praising him and the negative views coming from media personalities that've never played past high school!

[@EndlessMahogany]

I grew up in Ohio, and I agree with Jennings. It wasnt the media tearing Lebron down, it was the fans. From the start.

[@MrLordvoid]

Me too it was wild everybody was hating on LeBron for years after that

[@TheDakAttackShow]

Media too

[@tyhussein]

Respectfully no one cares about Ohio media or fans. When the decision happened, the first thing we heard about y’all was that y’all were burning this man’s jersey en masse. NYC media was shittin on Lebron for sure at that point, cuz beforehand they would love writing how he’d kill the Knicks with record games at MSG and wanted him on the team

[@baldblade4852]

Bruh you ain’t wrong. Watched everything from Columbus and talking to my people in Cleveland. We all came to the conclusion that the way Cleveland fans did Bron was the most disgusting thing we’d ever seen. And this is the state where Buckeye players get called all kinds of stuff if they lose. They called that man everything imaginable and then came the death threats for him and his family. He showed he was the way bigger man by coming back because the owner and the fans didn’t deserve a damn thing.

[@coopdoopin86]

Them Cleveland niggas was , not akron

[@PA-zt6xu]

Plus Gilbert is right the media made it seem like Pat came up with the players coming. Naw Lebron, wade and Bosh with Haslem and miller made the decision and came to Pat and said we coming make it work😂. The media can’t deal with players of a different hue coming up with a game plan to win😂

[@PA-zt6xu]

Also Gilbert is right the league and media wanted Lebron to go to Chicago or New York and that is why they acted like children and were pissed he went to Miami. They were literally throwing temper tantrums 😂. They thought Lebron was in the bag to go to a large market team like when Shaq left Orlando for the lakers😂

[@jac23mj]

And they ain’t stop hating Miami since lol

[@khalilwilliams1818]

now IA it going to Miami or teaming up with wade and bosh was the problem because like Gil said they was planning to team up if the went to new york or Chicago

[@pmontyjaaaymes488]

N its crazy. They say he was ring chasing. But he wanted to go to Philly when he left the second time. But his wife wanted L.A. Philly wasnt doing anything with Lebron in Cleveland.

[@williefaulker]

That's part of it , but LeBron has admitted multiple times before that the decision was a bit too much

[@allendavis846]

@@jac23mjMIA ain’t been on shit since he left 😂 ain’t won shit but a eastern conference championship

[@billbangz]

Lebron left because Dan Gilbert had promised to get Amare Stoudemire & then reneged at the last minute. Amare went to the Knicks & was a beast before the injuries. Had Lebron gotten Amare I don't believe he would've ever left Cleveland because it would've set a culture of truly competing in the league against the better squads at that time...

[@topnotchtajmahal7216]

All cuz he didn’t wanna trade JJ HICKSON! Lmfaooooooo

[@ddave7026]

Upper management... Typical

[@tsvetanbliznakov7694]

LeBron did what he had to do to compete for championships, but he wouldn't be a lesser player today if Miami never happened. You can make an argument he was a better player when he went back to Cleveland as well and those were his best years, but if that didn't happen he still would've been the player he is today, because love him or hate him LeBron always trained like a possessed man, took care of his body every way possible and his #1 goal was always to be the best player he can be and give everything he's got, so there isn't a situation that would change the player that he always was and in many ways still is today.

[@farrellcityking1]

Someone FINALLY told the whole story!

[@abeyang2856]

Dude really believes BS when this mfer on Klutch’s payroll 😂…Gil is sorry as hell sucking on dude while trying to beat him. That’s how you know he trash asf

[@MR.__G]

Nooo Stephen A is the one who told the truth !

[@P2k23P]

​@@MR.__Gwhat did he say....I forgot

[@MR.__G]

@@P2k23P about how lebron need a big brother to help him mature and help him learn to win. Go watch it, very insightful and he called it straight down the middle.. Gilbert sounds like a klutch representative the way he defends lebron on everything

[@isaacford7172]

@@MR.__G Stephen a is that damn lie, so what is Steven a told the truth about? He didn’t know anything about free agency none of that he is a soap opera star and he always say crazy stuff for the ratings to keep his first show on first that’s how he make his money and people like you listen to the bull crap that he be talking about

[@FmFa1995]

kenyon look mad at this whole conversation 😂

[@andretill9733]

😂he is 😂😢😢😢😢 😂

[@19934]

I’m just here so I want get fined head ass

[@Anonymous-gy4lp]

Could’ve been earning a lil bit w Miami during lockout 😂😂

[@4linegoon632]

Because he knows gil is capping

[@hayatorpg3896]

I heard LeBron, D-Wade and Bosh was really close to going to Chicago with Noah and Derrick Rose back then but changed their mind at the last second

[@DogWater2011]

Imagine that!?!? D. Wade, lebron, bosh, D. Rose, and Noah all in their freaking prime!?!? Oh my days!!!! Seriously, who is stopping that team? Just thinking about as an NBA fanatic, that would had been bananas.

[@dmorgs2384]

Well they resign Carlos so there was no money to get all three 😢 probably DRose wouldn’t have tore his knees up had they LeBron, Wade and Bosh

[@DogWater2011]

@dmorgs2384 well, D. Rose didn't get injured until 2 years later after lebron signed with Miami. Boozer was still a dominant big men so the bulls could have easily moved him. Anyways, my point is, deals are made all the time so it wouldn't have been impossible to make it work especially you have guys you can move that had good value. There's also the Orlando magic option. D. Wade, lebron, bosh, and Dwight? Oh my!

[@chrismiller658]

​@@DogWater2011magic option was the best because they had the free space. Rose would have never gotten injured because he would have lebron and wade taking up most of the ball time and he'd have less work.

[@DogWater2011]

@chrismiller658 bro imagine prime Dwight with lebron and that supporting cast? Sheeeeesh

[@Lifeofshawn248]

Norris is great for the conversation and he’s knowledgeable! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@terrancedavis2244]

Probably high 😂

[@flawless39]

Yezzir it's different when you're there and I'm the locker rooms vs listening to talking heads acting like they know

[@chrisbarnes960]

Like him better than McCants

[@anthonynorman7545]

Gotta love Martin! He's always keeping shit grounded.

[@newera5238]

Gil talking the truth!!🔥🔥🔥🔥 (This is the side the media doesn’t talk about!)

[@4linegoon632]

No he's talking what klutch sports pays him to say

[@jhad777]

@@4linegoon632100% Gil is a Fanboy and a Klutch propaganda talking machines…Can’t trust anything this fool says

[@mowas8620]

Unless the guys he's talking about say it out their own mouths then he's doing the same thing the media is doing and just speaking on gossip

[@newera5238]

@@mowas8620 Not really, because he’s actually played the game. I just believe ex players compared to people that just “study the game”.

[@newera5238]

@@4linegoon632 How do we know this?

[@lorenzopace6187]

Growing up in Cleveland in 2006-09 we hated Gilbert buddy would silence our crowd quick lol

[@papimula9047]

The real REAL REASON is, he wanted to leave that area, grew up there played ball there tried to win he didn’t, if y’all not from Ohio or Cleveland or even Akron gotta understand Miami was his college years, couldn’t force that man to stay in Cleveland and he grew up in that area

[@aryahe]

Facts that 60 vs 30 million wasn’t that different in a Florida market

[@FreshPlacide]

That's not true at all. Fed taxes are the bill of taxes you pay. State taxes on 30 extra mill isn't chump Change but it's a huge difference. Stop it.

[@theCHILLIntrovert]

If he had stayed in Cleveland he'd have a Karl Malone career minus the Finals appearances. No one was coming to Cleveland willingly. Organization sucked at the top and they were subpar at player development. He'd have numbers, accolades, etc but no rings and no respect as an all time great.

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

They don’t understand that no matter how much money you throw at an all star or superstar they weren’t going to Cleveland

[@SoCalOnTheBeat]

they dont wanna hear the real because all they care about is hating for no reason! its obvious but since he lebron people make up shit

[@SinaSoh]

He would have more respect if he would have stayed. If you are in the GOAT convo, you overcome and make it work!!!

[@pmontyjaaaymes488]

​@@SinaSohNah you cant overcome that. Stop it. 😂😂

[@SinaSoh]

@@pmontyjaaaymes488 LeBron, Kobe and KD will never be in the goat convo. Followers never get respect. Stick to cocomelon and blippi. Don’t talk sports anymore.

[@fredcampbell929]

If everybody thinks about it, since Cleveland didn’t wanna go through Free Agency and and spend money, Lebron knew the Cavs literally were trash without him so with him leaving they got 2 #1 draft picks so in actuality Bron did it smart by leaving and coming back. When the front office of Chicago threatened Mike Jordan’s legacy he left too. Facts

[@thunderouso6662]

Wiggins Kylie Waiters

[@ceeaz1633]

Salute to Gilbert for keeping it 100 and not being a hater. Bron did what he had to do because the cavs were never going to do it. They were going to milk Lebron his whole career. He may have gotten only 1 ring MAYBE had he stayed.

[@greatone8841]

Their whole basketball economy CRATERED the 4 years he was gone. It was just him that left (honorable mention to Big Z)

[@truckinndrivin3089]

Couldn’t you say that with MJ

[@4linegoon632]

He ain't keeping shit real . He's saying what klutch sports is paying him to say

[@justinannanmanthodo5010]

​@@truckinndrivin3089Zip it up when you done.

[@blackestvex2921]

" Keeping it real!? "🤣 That WHOLE 2011 EXCUSE he just made was bs. Jason Terry should NOT outscore LBJ in ANY Finals series.

[@williamgrierson4133]

People consider his move to Miami a negative, but it's one of the Greatest things he did for players in the league. He went back got them a ring, shut them up and left again. LeBron James Is The Blue Print!!!!! In basketball and life. Tweak some things if you like but the model stands out in the world we live in today and she be applauded. The hate comes from the dark people that hate his light. Facts.

[@mumuseer87]

It's all a script. Soap opera for sports fanatics

[@Bob-te3le]

He ran for help. You can flip it anyway you want.

[@kps5121]

Kenyon martin reminds me of my dad in any convo😂😂

[@tonybayarea]

Dwyane Wade said himself in a interview years ago that him and Lebron were on there way to Chicago to join the Bulls in (2010) but they wanted Bosh to join them in Chicago. The Bulls didn't want Bosh. Ended up all of them on the Heat instead of on the Bulls. Bulls could've had a couple more 🏆 if they had Lebron, Wade, Bosh and a young D.Rose on that team (pre-injuries). Smh.

[@k-boukrazy1605]

If the decision never happened there wouldn't even be a GOAT debate at all.

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

Joakim Noah even joked about how nobody wanted to play for Cleveland.

[@Iconic486]

Melo wasn’t a free agent that year. He signed the extension

[@johnerickp]

This is becoming my favorite channel.

[@Lord_OTD]

LeBron’s decision was the best choice he ever made.

[@KevoUptownChicago]

Thats easy to say looking back.

[@AndreFarrar]

I learned a whole lot in just this one short segment. 💯

[@samuellevasseur9812]

why kenyon look pissed at norris 😂

[@jmar5127]

Cant wait til all these stories come out

[@AyeYoQ]

It’s something about Gil that makes me wonder he don’t speak on basketball honestly like McCants & Martin he holding back something

[@badrobotNG]

Uncle Gil, the original Capper..

[@m.davinci9285]

FACTS!

[@rayraytheog]

Lebron James is a create player ! I remembered his first game then the next day I went to school middle school at that we were talking about his debut all day at school he top 3 for sure!

[@cjvinson629]

@gilsarena I need that fit that Kenyon got on in Green. Where?

[@Queenofpentacles1]

The former NBA players always have better take - it’s details that matter

[@carlmurphy5641]

D Wade has a different version of why he left. They teamed up cause of Kobe. They had to win championships. Don’t misunderstand me that’s what that man said, Bron is all time great regardless of how it went. I’m gonna believe the dude who he teamed up with though and I get it at that time they had to catch the level Kobe was at

[@kilduce4423]

Thank you. They’re trying to flip the script

[@christiancrews4278]

Both can be true. If bron tryna beat kobe he knew staying in Cleveland aint gone cut it for the reasons gil gave. Lebron leaving to Cleveland doesnt stem from wanting to link up with other superstars to beat kobe as much as it comes from the nigga just wanting to compete at the highest level. Wanting to beat the defending champ who been to finals for the last 3 years is the goal, no matter who there. Thats like saying Dame went to the bucks to team up with giannis to beat the nuggets when in reality its to beat ANYBODY

[@SuperWizzle85]

@@christiancrews4278facts I think it had something to do with the lack of talent he had in Cleveland and the management being whack and also he’s seeing Kobe and the lakers go to 3 straight finals winning 2 he also had Boston in his way Orlando was in his way he wasn’t gonna get no further than the ECF every year

[@chisolmronald]

Kobe ain't had shit to do with the decision 😂

[@carlmurphy5641]

@@chisolmronaldTell that to his teammate DWade, I just told you what he said

[@dexterbrown4762]

As heat fan they say it no such thing as heat culture but look at when riley took over how many division titles we won, ecf championship won and games played in. So theres a culture one of the youngest franchises and yet so much trophies.

[@MataChatas]

It would be a dream to see Gil team up with Cole on the San German team 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@factsovertheyfeelings5303]

🗣THE 💎 THEY SHARING IS MIND BLOWING 😮

[@marianchicago4002]

What he doesn’t say is that Cleveland wasn’t just over the cap, they were around max amount that league let’s you spend, and those were all long term contracts, Cleveland couldn’t sign anyone because they were chasing wins NOW because if they didn’t, they were afraid Lebron would leave and in irony, he left because they spend all that money

[@GOGOGODSON727]

People were programmed to hate LeBron. ESPN (Stephen A Smith a Jordanite) first put it out there and I quote “I don’t like the way he left”. Immediately after that people started hating LeBron. Burning jerseys and talking smack about The King. I remember vividly when I asked people why they hated LeBron. 10 or 10 people said “I don’t like the way he left”. Think about that for one moment. A free agent choosing another team to play for and you hate him for that?? The same people celebrated every exit James Harden made from every team he left. The same people celebrated the year before The Three Amigos the year before LeBron left. Imagine that and not once did anyone call the Celtics a Super Team with The Truth, The Big Ticket, and Jesus Shuttlesworth. Not once. Then they create the narrative that LeBron started that whole SuperTeam BS. Get out of here. Let’s go back when Moses Malone demanded to be traded from Houston to the 76ers. His demand was granted in and he went to the 76ers and won a championship that same year with his superteam consisting of Dr J and Mo Cheeks just for starters. So you’re also trying to tell me that Shaq coming to the Lakers with Kobe and Ron Artest was NOT a SuperTeam???? With Phil Jackson as their head coach!! LeBron came into the league with a target on his back. We have NEVER seen a player so unwelcome into the league. I say that to say this. Dr J welcomed Magic into the league. Doc never threw Magic under the bus. He allowed Magic to be who he became. Magic and Bird never threw Jordan under the bus. They allowed him to grow into the great player he became. Jordan, Magic and damn near every angry vet threw darts LeBron 🎯. Taking smack from day one. Even in his first stint with Cleveland he outshined what they expected. But they kept talking smack that he didn’t win a ring and he wasn’t this and he wasn’t that. Unlike they did Jordan. When Jordan came in David Stern made Jordan the face of the NBA. Jordan could do no wrong. You can say whatever you want but before Jordan we hated BALL HOGS. We hated them on the black top, at the gym, in college and pro ball. Michael Jordan was allowed to practice during games and take as many shots as he wanted. Look it up Jordan would myself 50 and 60 shots per game. Of course he would average 30 and 35 points per game. LeBron wants granted that leeway but STILL passé Jordan in scouring (a long time ago) but to also be in the top 5 in assists In PHENOMENAL!! No other NBA player on top 5 in scoring and assists. LeBron is like having Magic and Jordan in one player. And yet those 2 players that every opp to three what that man has accomplished under the bus and program other people to follow that stupidity. They always move the goal post when it come to LeBron doing a thing that Jordan has NEVER done. MICHAEL JORDAN NEVER WON A RONG WITHOUT SCOTTIE PIPPEN AND PHIL JACKSON. If that was on LeBron’s resume they would they would throw that out there as a negative that he would never be able to live down. Like it or not LeBron James was basically A Dynasty by himself. Each player he won with envied him. People talk as if LeBron would have never won had he NOT went to Miami. The fact is DWade would only have 1 ring if LeBron had not come to Miami. Kyrie and AD act as if they were the reason The King has a ring. The fact is LeBron is they reason they have a ring each. You can see the envy from both of them. The Lakers need ti get rid of AD if they want another ring with LeBron. The Kong is doing his part. AD should’ve mentioned among Giannis, Embiid and The Joker right now and for the last 4 years. He’s not because he too concerned on not being the dude. I see that LeBron has even tried reverse psychology with AD but telling him this is your team. There is not way a 38 almost 39 year old man should be the best player on your team. You’re 29 years old. That’s ridiculous!!!!!!! Kobe showed us that doing exactly what Jordan did was doable. He was a carbon copy of Jordan. Salute to both. The reality is…….. We have never seen anything like LeBron James before and we will never seen anything like LeBron James again. Give that man his flowers while he’s here and playing. For 21 years a lot of you all hated. Stop that nonsense. LeBRON JAMES THE GOAT THE KING 👑 KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR PASSES THE TORCH TO THE TRUE GOAT 🐐 KING JAMES LEBRON JAMES 🛑 HATIN’

[@memcrew1]

You made a few mistakes of the history, but I get your point. I would add Skip Bayless as the driving force for the negative perceptions of LBJ, way before the decision.

[@babygoat12]

No they were programmed to love him he was the chosen one off the back over melo at that time and in the goat talk in like 5 years over Kobe let’s not do that please he was so pumped up in the media

[@JECZ23]

That summer really did go crazy with the free agents tho. A lot of well-known players were up for grabs AND to get big money.

[@HessKnows]

They had a whole song surrounding his choice. It was Big like no other.

[@humbertoacevedo5343]

Gilbert talks like he won something. 😅

[@memcrew1]

Well, many ppl in the comments are doing the same and never played in the nba, much less won anything.😂

[@WoahTempLIVE]

@@memcrew1got his ass 😂😂😂

[@jmike501]

Joe and LeBron would’ve been nice to see also.

[@74tilitblow71]

I forgot Norris went to Cleveland State during the time. He was there

[@Maryland-Man-Son]

Can we get shirts with "PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE" 😂. Gil use that thang like clockwork

[@johncrane1594]

Nobody wanted to go to Cleveland. All the anti-Bron people were buying the skip Bayless bullshit "he's scared" or " he doesn't have the clutch gene" narrative at that time also. Most people also felt like he should beat a team of all stars by himself without another GREAT player. Not even Michael, bird, Magic, or Isiah had to do that. Cleveland has never been a great draw for NBA talent in free agency and it never will be. Not trying to slam the city but these dudes want to maximize earning potential in a Box office market AND win a championship. Because of this Bron never really got the help he needed during his FIRST Cleveland run

[@memcrew1]

Yes, Skip definitely played a big role on the perception of LBJ.

[@MrAlvarez23]

I'm glad Gill is saying this. Because many fans and sports journalists think he betrayed the Cavs. But in reality, after he went to the first finals. He was asking for better players and Im glad they are telling the real story. Gilbert didn't want to spend money at all. I remembered that year was wtf they can't get any other players? The Knicks messed up they rushed in by signing Stoudemire. If not Bosh, Wade, Miller, and Bron would have joined. Imagine all of them plus Melo omg. Bron would have won anywhere it was a package regardless and he will still be Him.

[@cj9133]

This is revisionist history. Dan was willing to pay money but without bron signing a long term deal or committing to it he wasn’t about to trade picks

[@4linegoon632]

Gil is only saying what klutch sports pays him to say

[@topnotchtajmahal7216]

@@cj9133 uhh no it was cuz dan thought jj HICKSON was gonna become some kind of star and he wasn’t so he didn’t pull the trigger on the amari deal and went and traded less for a old ass washed up antwuan jamison

[@user-gl3ee7hd7l]

​@cj9133 if you have LeBron James on your team and you have the opportunity to sign a star to have alongside him, you trade the fucking picks

[@SP.007]

6:10 - what about the Anthony Carter player option, that was "accidentally" not picked up.

[@nicholasbaltodano3240]

Norris cole such a humble guy. Love to that guy from the 305

[@ian-th7rd]

People wanted him to win championships with Mo Williams, Varejao and the great Hall of Famer Aleksandar Pavlovic

[@brooklynblack9015]

Yes he went to the finals with those same guys

[@drue1209]

That's part of being the great. You damn casuals kill me with these comments. U win with what u have. Kobe only had gasol, which is equal to Jamison, and he won. When kobe was avging 35 he had them same players and added gasol and won

[@ian-th7rd]

@@drue1209 to forget Bynum who was considered the best center in the league at the time and leave a defensive elite player like Artest, and a guy like Odom out and even worst comparing a year 13 Jamison obviously out of his prime is too idiotic

[@memcrew1]

@@ian-th7rdand don’t forget PHil Jackson coaching.

[@drue1209]

@ian-th7rd u better go do ur research. Bynum wasn't the best center in league when the Lakers where winning. Bynum was 2011 - 12 season. Odom was the most inconsistent player back then. Artest was defense but terrible on offense those years. Your just saying name, you know. Go check the production. Those names put out those years.

[@CarlosSilva-md2kb]

The #1 team and had the Pistons and other teams in the East. What was MJ excuse for atleast not making the 4th seed and passing the first round before Pippen got there? 🤔

[@AlexAlex-ps3di]

Wade and Haslem was not leaving Miami to go to NY Cleveland or anywhere else. Pat Riley was the architect as far as the talk and Andy Elisburg as far as the math and making the contracts works.

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Hearing a player talk about James when he played against him as a rookie and as he developed is new. All we hear is comaprisons to Kobe and Jordan, or guys who played with him talking about how good he is or how hard it was to play alongside.

[@josh0253]

Im saying this as someone who loves lebron as a basketball player and appreciates EVERY SINGLE THING hes done in the league, but he was jot winning a ring with joe johnson as his second best player and YES i do remember joe johnson he was a really good player but he was not winning a ring with him as his second best player

[@mrray7792]

It's so weird that being the best at what you do makes you a villain😂😂 he was getting older and didn't want to miss his chance to be on top again. It's so simple. He wouldn't gotten 3-4 rings no matter the team

[@andretill9733]

😂ik cuz he suuux 😂😂😂

[@captain2323]

He’d win atleast 3 rings in any other alternate career. No doubt.

[@IAmDrewselum]

1:29 Shout out Avon Lake fr lol.. Lorain County!

[@frankiethefrog1752]

The interview raised over $1,000,000 for the local boys and girls club. Nobody talks about that. His PR team must of thought that would hold some weight with the fans but they don’t care about doing good things off the court.

[@itsKels757]

To sit there and say they would’ve hated him the same way if he would’ve stayed is insane. Lol soon as he went to Miami his hater count multiplied by 10000. Had nothing to do with him breaking records. The media loved Bron. I didn’t know a Bron hater in my area until he went to Miami

[@pmontyjaaaymes488]

They would have after many yrs of losing. Yeah they would have.

[@itsKels757]

@@pmontyjaaaymes488 like Portland when they had Dame?

[@roguetruth2460]

Can we talk about if he went to Chicago though. Or if him wades and Bosh went to Chicago

[@KevoUptownChicago]

Thank you... Had we got Just Wade that year we would have been the favorite i dont know about all this NY and Orlando talk the Bulls was stacked Rose just needed that running mate.

[@personalwilliamsaccount]

I may not agree with some of what you guys say but this was 🔥

[@elig4056]

Does not matter cause he left and he won , he came back and he won and left again to somewhere else and he won again. Ppl will love him so much more when he gone , promise that.

[@pmontyjaaaymes488]

That's why i say dude is the greatest. Rookie coaches in all those Championships. Winning in three different cities and MVPs in all of them. Then when he left those teams, they sucked. If you think since he went back to Cleveland, he has lost the finals the first yr and won the Chip the second yr. At all three places. Plus played out all his contracts. Gotta respect it.

[@notoriouslyinfamous2937]

Gil is right. But it wasn’t just about Lebron leaving & the press conference but HOW he left. First of all, he quit on the Cavs in the ECSF playoffs against the Celtics where he scored just 15 in a critical GM 5 and constantly passed up shots he should have taken to even walking off the court & taking his Cavs jersey off with time left on the clock when they got eliminated which was a sign of what was to come and had Cavs fans in an uproar. He then holds the press conference complete with a marching band like they just won the NBA championship to announce he’s leaving not only his team but his HOME team of the state he grew up in by “taking his talents to Miami”. Knowing the damage he’d be doing to Cleveland in leaving he even contributed $25k to their Boys & Girls Club as a bandaid. It also didn’t help that he was leaving a hard luck city like Cleveland for the tropical weather, beach life & bikini clad woman of Miami. And last he left to go ring chasing by joining a future HOF and already NBA champion in D Wade along with a prime Chris Bosh in what was not the first Big 3 but the first championship or bust Big 3. Now the hate for Lebron started there but continued as he became known as a flopper, always crying to the refs, my fav exaggerating injuries where he’s rolling on the floor in pain holding an area replay shows he wasn’t even hit at smh, constantly walking off the court with time left in losing games something he’s done often especially in LA, often referring to himself as the GOAT something as egotistical as Michael Jordan is he NEVER did even though he knows he the true GOAT. And finally Lebron continued to ring chase by smartly returning to Cleveland to wrong his rights but only cause they had an All Star in Kyrie & was getting prime Kevin Love to finally going to LA knowing prime AD & others would soon follow which they did. And let’s not forget he refuses to go bald or go to Turkey and fix his botched hair replacement surgery. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jonathanwilliams0824]

Let's get one thing clear, he didn't "quit" on the Cavaliers in that series against the Celtics in 2010. There were a lot of personal issues going on with LeBron that affected him mentally, to which it's none of our business and, more importantly, it had nothing to do with basketball.

[@joebuffy1840]

I love how Michael Jordan quit basketball twice. He was out of shape with the wizards. But Jordan always gets a pass.

[@notoriouslyinfamous2937]

@@joebuffy1840Lmfao. Learn the difference between quitting in your team and retiring after fulfilling your commitment. Michael Jordan never quit on his team he retired after winning 3 championships then came back a yr later and won 3 more. He never walked off the court with time left in a losing game knowing he was leaving his team for another to go ring chasing.

[@notoriouslyinfamous2937]

⁠@@jonathanwilliams0824Then he should have just whooped Delonte West ass, kicked him off the team and banned his mother from games. He knew what she was as per that story with her and one of his recruiters so act accordingly and put her on a leash. That’s like having a thief for a brother and allowing him to come around your millionaire teammates yet get surprised when Rolexes & wallets go missing out the locker room.

[@PA-zt6xu]

@@jonathanwilliams0824exactly that quit crap is BS that dude was suppose to beat a 3 star team in the Celtics with trash and a hundred year old shaq😂

[@pkway9394]

Imagine if Lebron got a big like Yao…. That would’ve been so cool to watch or Lebron and Joe Johnson….

[@zyxtrr]

joe & bron would’ve been nice, all bron needed was another scorer

[@Traylormade_Chief]

Cousins was the best center in the NBA in 2010. If they woulda teamed up... chip(s)

[@zyxtrr]

@@Traylormade_Chief nah cousins was a rookie no way lebron would’ve went to sac

[@realjohnlove]

Assuming Yao stayed healthy

[@brooklynblack9015]

Imagine if I was 7 feet 🙄

[@Darius_Dawkins]

Finally!!! I been saying this Cleveland didn’t want to/know how to build around Lebron, his whole first run there he never got any real help, Larry, and Antwan was the only 2 and it was at the end of their careers

[@markmills9899]

There's nothing you can replace a championship with that will help your old time standings because all the people ranked in the top five or top 10 have multiple championships and many individual awards

[@mentalprograming5365]

i think the thing is even with all this info almost everyone wants lebron to have said, fuck it let them all team up and i will beat them all and then go out and somehow do it and win a title.. but he didnt think like that and that hurt people because they thought he was going to think like that cause the exscuse is "thats what mj would do" "thats what kobe would do" they didnt give mj or kobe anyone to work with.. they never signed ron harper and dennis rodman, they never drafter kukoc and pippen, they never signed gasol, artest and odom, bynum.. they gave lebron people equally as good as pippen, harper, rodman, bynum, gasol, artest, odom etc etc ... like people make this shit up in their head just to hate lebron.. dude had either the choice of staying in cleveland and be an eternal loser in order to please the fans or win in miami and live his best life and put the fans feelings and thoughts last.. i woulda put my fans last too.. my life comes first, not some weirdos that choose to worship me.. i didnt force you to worship me, thats your problem and i will capitalize off it.. thats what all entertainers and celebrities do.. none of them care about their fans, they just tolerate them differently.. having a fan is a weird thing.. being someones fan is worse..

[@copedigital]

Username checks out. I can tell you think deeply about everything 😂

[@sauce773]

Finally someone with a platform speaks. Did nothing to imptove that cavs team. They where just counting on LeBron with bench players

[@theeggreat4]

Practice facility is not in no damn Bath county smh shit is 15-20 minutes from downtown. I stayed 5 minutes from the Q and that’s how long it took me to go for a grad school project.

[@MicrowaveWalrus]

I agree that most of Lebron's hate is because he went to Miami. Otherwise nobody would really have anything to say... do people hate on Giannis? Nope. Jokic? Nada.

[@Twix5427]

People want to knock Lebron but Lebron got tired of playing with average players like Jamario moon, Sasha pavlovic, a broke down Zydrunas, Eric snow old ass Donyell Marshall .

[@raymondsims7042]

Makes sense to me🤷‍♂️

[@kennethbrooks9570]

Soooooo what happened when he got his team in 2011???😮

[@sykomichael83]

​@kennethbrooks9570 im assuming "they" blew it mentally assuming they would beat Dallas becuz heat beat them a few years earlier 2006 and Heat was Favorites...they wasn't mentally locked in didn't study they opponent properly

[@kennethbrooks9570]

@sykomichael83 no ...not they lol...HE...smh scoring a whopping 12 points in the game lol.... like I said he's no Jordan and that's that ...if he was so much better the league and the media wouldn't still be looking for the Michael Jordan lol....like a crack head chasing his 1st high lol....

[@sykomichael83]

@@kennethbrooks9570 it's they Becuz D wade also lost while leading the team and Chris Bosh man Got MVP....so yea they

[@LordFess]

Ain't seen Norris Cole in ages bro!

[@LOYALTYFORRENT]

The moment he submitted his request to the league to change his number to #6 from #23 was when I thought it was pretty obvious he was going to Miami; regardless of if he said he didn't know all the way up to "The Decision". He couldn't have worn #23 since it was retired for MJ in Miami by Pat Riley and there was no way he'd allow the perception of him possibly being forced to take another number other than #23. LeBron then said he was giving it up because of respect to MJ and that nobody should wear it, but then goes right back to it when he went back to Cleveland and the Lakers.....

[@aaronconners5570]

I thought it was obvious to, and I’m like he wouldn’t to a press conference just to say he’s staying

[@realjohnlove]

He went to Miami because Wade actually organized a plan to have 3 superstars on one team & no other team could offer that. If DRose was the Drose we know now, Lebron woulda probably went to Chicago. Orlando didn’t have the cap space because they had Rashad Lewis bloated contract. The same contract Orlando traded Gilbert for All New York had to offer was Amare & the prospect of Melo or CP3 coming later Lebron coulda stayed in Miami after 2014 & they would’ve went to the Finals every year until 2020. Wade & Bosh were ready to take paycuts to keep Lebron

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

Exactly they don’t understand D Wade told lebron to come on home and Lebron learned a lot about the Heat Culture go about your business, be professional, be a leader

[@winstonperra8070]

How tf Wade taught Lebron when Dwade can't even control Shaq and Gp2. That Heat culture is BS. Cole said rules are different when Bron was there and when he left.@@user-lt1fx2he5s

[@dmorgs2384]

Actually LeBron and Wade would’ve gone to Chicago had they not resign Carlos Boozer. They wanted to play with DRose but it never came to fruition. Just like DeRozan want a 3yr contract instead of 2 but Rob said no and got Russ instead

[@TheJourneyofAll]

Judging off what we know about both, what makes you think Wade did this?

[@seanbrent8294]

He was a FA

[@WJGSix]

LeGoat James was always destined to be the Goat. I get that MJ fanboys get hurt over that, and I love MJ myself and I don't mind them calling him the goat, but Lebron truly did everything right in his career and fought through more adversity than anyone ever did in the NBA, including the players who unfortunately went through serious racism and discrimination in their time. With that said, I don't doubt we'll see someone better in the next couple of generations, and that's the crazy part.

[@MrAlvarez23]

Im glad Gill is saying this. Because many fans and sports journalist think he betrayed the Cavs. But in reality, after he went to the first finals. He was asking for better players and Im glad they are telling the real story. Gilbert didn't want to spend money at all. I remembered that year was wtf they can't get any other players? The Knicks messed up they rushed in by signing Stoudemire. If not Bosh, Wade, Miller, and Bron would have joined. Imagine all of them plus Melo omg. Bron would have won anywhere it was a package regardless and he will still be Him.

[@realjohnlove]

@@MrAlvarez23Gil stating the obvious tho. Everyone knew that ppl just mad he didn’t go to their team lol

[@MR.__G]

Went through adversity 😂😂😂 this man won every chip he has by teaming with 2 established top 5 picks (wade,bosh) (kyrie,love) (AD,Dwight) Lebron can never say he built a dynasty from the mud… the joker just won a chip last year without ever having an all star teammate.. but lebron needs the whole avengers just to win. You bron stans literally say the dumbest ishhhh

[@davidwicks9538]

💯x 10000 👏🏿

[@ridieboo8403]

they never built a team around him@@MR.__G

[@a-a-rondavis9438]

Why does it look like Kenyon is fed up with the guest every time they talk? lol

[@smilinmj99]

He some what right. It would’ve been closet hate tho. Cuz they would’ve have no real reason to be mad. You gotta think people and the media still hated Kobe. I think they would’ve tried to destroy his image like Kobe and T. Woods. Just nobody is allowed to be better than Jordan lol. But maybe I’m tripping idk

[@kobaby]

Idk I think Gill is right but giving a bit too much credit as well. Miami was simply the best destination that summer and Pat, a commited Bosh & Dwade was incredibly interesting. Say what you want Bron has never won back 2 back since when he should have before. Miami was a great organization for him and kinda wish he’d had stayed

[@moneymoney3235]

When he should have when with what team???

[@tobiaslimberis9798]

Chicago would’ve been the best destination

[@kobaby]

They had no leadership or organization to handle the absolute mania of pressure that would have been

[@hypebroouttanowhere6411]

Could have 3peat

[@LEvELSCALES]

Gil... They killed LEBRON'S Legacy before he even stepped on an NBA court.... Comparing him to Jordan from the start... Man didn't even have six seasons in and they threw 6rings in his face

[@4linegoon632]

21 years later and he still doesn't have 6 😅

[@WhoChino95]

@@4linegoon632all time scoring leader . 8 straight finals . Playoff numbers is record breaking Rings isn’t the only accomplishment 😂😂😂

[@4linegoon632]

@WhoChino95 all time leading scorer doesn't mean lebron is the goat if not Kareem would've been considered the goat. 8 straight finals in a weak ass eastern conference. All those finals but couldn't 3 peat? Barely went back to back if it wasn't for Ray Allen. LeBron should've been 10 -0 if he's better then jordan but he's not

[@4linegoon632]

@WhoChino95 lebron ain't the goat because he isn't better then jordan . Lebron ain't the goat because he doesn't even know how to be one.

[@LEvELSCALES]

@@4linegoon632 *BETTER THAN... AND STOP COMPARING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLAY

[@trevonjoyner1102]

Seeing Norris Cole is crazy. Forgot bro existed

[@BIG_EXEC]

Gil has the best basketball takes in the business 🙏

[@LuQaBras1]

Is it me or do Gil seem a lil salty towards Pat like did he want to be apart of the heat teams?

[@nickfavre8117]

People act like one player can take a whole team to the finals every year besides LeBron and AI😅😅 never been done but by them too. You could probably say the Pistons, but they had a legit solid squad

[@oaklandtraphouse]

Kawai Leonard

[@nickfavre8117]

@@oaklandtraphouse that raptors team had a legit 2nd man and they benefited from injuries... No one thinks they win a game vs a healthy golden state. Keep it a buck

[@nickfavre8117]

@@oaklandtraphouse pascal s Van fleet Kyle lowlry serge Ibaka marc gasol??

[@oaklandtraphouse]

@nickfavre8117 can't compare these players to hall of faners dwade and bosh

[@rinowatson]

@@oaklandtraphouseyou can if they produced better not not look at name value only

[@ryunsayaovang3442]

He checked out when he wanted the cavs to trade for amare but instead they traded for a past his prime Antwan jaminson

[@MikeSmith-wx2tn]

I live in ohio, and it didn't help the PG sleeping with his mom either. That was big news down here, and some teammates were making fun of him about it

[@Yahawashi12]

Most people don't care he left its how he left

[@mical2great]

How he leave? A free agent😂😂 nigga didn't owe Cleveland a thing. Kevin Durant owed the Nets 3 more years nd we just let it pass like nothin

[@raymondsims7042]

I thought he handled it perfectly and gave some money to charity while leaving. Not sure what more those idiots wanted

[@Anonymous-gy4lp]

@@raymondsims7042his soul

[@BrotherO4]

Yea!! How dare he run a charity before leaving. Fuck him…. Yea sounds stupid when you say it out loud right?

[@raymondsims7042]

@@Anonymous-gy4lp true

[@onthe80omw]

The amount of help LeBron has had is insane

[@eugenereeves418]

Norris got that southwest Ohio Dialect 😂 didn't realize until he started talking he from Ohio cincinnati Dayton area

[@dennisrradfordjr5411]

Bath isnt a county it's a city close to Akron

[@kidmelo1994]

mmmmm listen to this story. I remember when Chuck said , " He ( Lebron ) want to GM every team" was the real reason why Bron spaz on him. Also this story also hurts Lebron legacy in my opinion!!

[@caliba100]

Hurt it how? Bron fans will ride for him till the day they all die. His legacy is set and we will talk our shit to every hater who run their hating ass mouths.

[@AZ-gz8md]

What story?

[@MrAlvarez23]

What u talking about Bro. I BET a lot ppl dont know why he left. He would have won anywhere. There was a package coming with him

[@kidmelo1994]

@@caliba100 it hurt him legacy because he basically force a championship. Imagine playing a game of Uno the dealer purposely pick the winning cards and lose more then he won. don't you view the dealer and as a bad cheater?

[@SammieSosa_]

@@kidmelo1994bro read before you post. You don’t just make a team in the off-season and win. You have to play. Shitty ass analogy

[@courtneymiller2680]

🤔💭Dwayne wade already had a ring before Lebron came Dwayne wade did not come to join Lebron Lebron joined dwayne wade That's a huge red flag🇵🇼 Michael jordan or Kobe would never join anyone else's team I don't want to hear about different era That's an integrity issue Translation alpha male issue😂😂💦 Bro steph curry has 4 rings under Lebron james ⌚️ watch And Kawai leonard has 2 under Lebron watch 😳😳😳 And steph curry three came into the league three years after lebron These are all facts that I am saying Not my opinion😳😳😳😳😳 Name me a player in the michael jordan era That has four rings???¿?😂😂💦😳😳😳😳

[@caliba100]

D wade needed LeBron wayyyyyyy more. After that lucky championship run d wade had, he has never had success in the playoffs again until LeBron got their and after Bron left, he still ain't have no playoffs success. Bron was being nice his first year then took d wade team from him

[@courtneymiller2680]

@@caliba100 you're crazy Stop bro Dwayne wade had a title And lebron did not Bro cut that out You just talking just to talk

[@Traylormade_Chief]

So ur gonna sit here typing wit ur lil thumbs like Wade didn't have Shaq. Smh

[@courtneymiller2680]

@Traylormade_Chief Bro, Go lay down It's bedtime for you quit making excuses, bro. You guys are excuse making people bro. Just accept the fact bro. You're gonna see here in type with your little thumb Talking about an old shack Go lay down on bro😳😳😳😳😅🤣💦 Anything to deflect from the truth

[@belovedhabeeb549]

Gil whole take sound like the broner meme “ I got caught cooked “

[@KevoUptownChicago]

The Bulls had the Team all they was missing was a real compliment to D Rose even had the Bulls got Wade the first time the Bulls out of all the teams would have been the favorite

[@poodahraw43]

He cheated the game then try claim goat nuh bruh

[@abcde4774]

STUPID!

[@jonesthegreatest7071]

Cheated the game? 😂

[@abcde4774]

@@jonesthegreatest7071 don’t mind him. He’s just one of those dumb haters.

[@deereed3303]

🧢

[@poodahraw43]

@@abcde4774 get ya 🥒 eating as away

[@brianhall5859]

Gilbert is such a liar. Lebron attempted to recruit players, they didn’t want to come to Cleveland. Thats not the same as the owner not spending money on FA.

[@mohammedalghazali1387]

8:36 who would’ve thought now we business partners

[@patrickosborne2135]

I remember watching the decision and I was 11 years old. It felt no different than a college kid picking his school on TV. Obviously now I understand that’s not how pro sports conducted, but I wonder if Bron was trying to have his “college decision” because he never got one?

[@tomverbiak5177]

As a Cavs fan we’ll take Bron leaving in 2010 for our 2016 ring