The Truth About Contrapoints & Non-Binary

[@BlaireWhiteX]

Thoughts? I'm sure the comments are gonna be a mess :))))))

[@sxphiesgrave]

Blaire White I haven’t even watched 5 mins but knowing you I’m sure you’ll handle it respectfully and politely 💛

[@starry65]

we stan contra

[@therrshow3238]

how many people has she bullied who as a result had to do the exact same thing? she kinda had it coming

[@natemarx4999]

The first two people are just mental patients. Let's just call it for what it is.

[@rosemurphy8913]

Living x

[@annehorner9750]

"Im not going to be run off the internet by a bunch of 16 year olds, who ten years ago would be the emo kids" I'm CACKLING

[@biancapearson9758]

Anne h literally so accurate tho

[@mattygreen6233]

offensive to emos

[@somethingclever8916]

Remember when vampire kids wanted to be declared legally dead to validate their identity?

[@nickoletziotis5135]

Best response ever

[@sweetcoffee2458]

Hey nothing wrong with emos xD

[@HeavyMetalHeadMaster]

The most offensive thing about this video is thought of buying a hot dog from a 7/11. Sickening.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Truth! 👍🏽

[@SoloClone]

Go to Speedway, hotdogs are awesome

[@GTBlazingKirby]

They sit there all day

[@brandonarmstrong4947]

Iknow, the audacity she has

[@zekesmith7123]

i really like them pls dont hurt me

[@keepsmilinglittlemax1244]

“Shape shifting girl” Gee buddy. We’re not in Steven universe

[@zoebeau6340]

camp camp and steven universe? i approve of this comment lmfao

[@comicconcarne]

"But if it were me, I'd really want to be, A giant woman"

[@Umbrella2]

(Probably) remember they are not sure if they are shape shifting lol

[@kamurotetsu4860]

I often shape shift into Chris Hemsworth (probably)

[@gecks3464]

They definitely wish they were which is unsettling since Steven Universe fucking sucks lol

[@Raichous.mom.moments99]

I'm a tom boy. But I'm not nonbinary, I like shooting, I like fishing, I like boy things. But I'm a woman. Just because I have male traits doesn't mean I'm nonbinary nor does it mean I'm trans. Be whatever you want idc but I am not gonna say I'm one thing just to fit in. It would make my life easier. Trust me it would.

[@lilacscentedfushias1852]

Ps, sorry for the essay 🌺🌺🌺

[@ClaireFrances]

Those are not boy things. But I totally get what you mean. It's really stupid, this gender ideology.

[@theecologist10]

you shoot innocent animals?

[@Raichous.mom.moments99]

@@theecologist10 I shoot paper 🤣🤣

[@theecologist10]

@@Raichous.mom.moments99 oh, that's alright then 😄

[@calmfulspider]

As someone who is questioning but not transitioning yet, it makes me hella uncomfortable when people ask my pronouns. I’d rather people just call me what they think I am.

[@Bunni-tj4rn]

Honestly couldn't agree more.

[@RemainIndoorsPainting]

I have to say that if a moderator in a debate stopped everything to check if i was okay or upset by what another debater said, i would be offended. I would feel like i was being treated like a child, it's patronising. The fact that the guy asked actually was rendered too upset to speak by the mere hearing of a different opinion is just pathetic. I despise identity politics. I don't care WHAT you are, i care WHO you are. I don't subscribe to Blaire because shes transgender, i subscribe because i'm interested in what she has to say and thinks about issues. I don't always agree but unlike the man child in the debate, a different opinion doesnt shut me down, it makes me think.

[@PoohhNani]

Literally couldnt agree more 💜💚

[@lyndsay4153]

Preach!!🙌🏽

[@saxon1014]

Huzzah! Well said on all points.

[@Hana.Behl-Lecter]

🙌🏻 exactly this

[@aehsino9377]

I would’ve walked out because why am I even here? It’s obviously a biased room

[@AlexSmith-gr4hp]

"I'm different, I'm unique, I have my own personal gender and experience" Also... "I'm just like you and you have to accept me into your group despite me not meeting the definition of your group"

[@AcornFox]

Alex Smith You are unique... ...like everyone else.

[@zbuildsthewayyyt1085]

They interrupted you to ask the other person how they were doing......I'm dead. WTF.

[@phrohibited]

They just want attention. Look how quick that dude started to play the victim when the host asked him if he was okay 😂

[@kawaiiwolfie1385]

You realize that one person doesn't represent the entire community, right?

[@phrohibited]

@@kawaiiwolfie1385 Yeah, I wish more were like Blaire.

[@kawaiiwolfie1385]

@@phrohibited Same

[@vlo4829]

@JailDemon Playz: But isn't non-binary about attention? You do have to be pretty narcissistic and power-hungry to expect everyone to ask you for YOUR pronouns...

[@kimmiewise1044]

JaiDemon Playz As long as you know that respect it’s earned and not everyone will call you what you want even if you ask. For example, I have a friend who thinks she’s no binary. She has no history of Dysphoria and only started acting this way when she got an extreme leftist transman boyfriend. Said Guy is NOT taking hormones nor is his binding. All of this tells me that this identity and para social, so I use her natal pronouns of her and she because I know that what she is going through is Not what she is. I might seem like an asshole and I probably am...But I’m not brainwashed or stupid.

[@LIAMWHUT]

"I will not be run off social media by a bunch of 16 year olds that 10 years ago would have been the Emo kids but now want to be the trans kids, mmk" -Blair White 🔥💜

[@fullup91]

Yes.. They can't cancel Blair because she don't play their game. Contra ran with that crowd and felt the burn, when the villagers got bloodlust. 😳😂

[@saraleguene4246]

Hez already cancel literally binaryphohoc

[@littlebodybigheart888]

^^^^^^

[@FlashQuatsch]

Back in the day kids had their goth and emo phases. Now they have their non-binary and trans phases. Worst part? Some of them still act like high schoolers when they are adults.

[@FlashQuatsch]

@@rosido7322 exactly, in your emo phase at most you'll have a tattoo or piercing you regret. For these people, they can end up with permanent hormonal damage or worse, regret removing or adding organs.

[@beatemueller7830]

Whenever someone calls themselves a shapeshifter I don’t think of non-binary, I think of x-men.

[@tofutopper6920]

Yea me too

[@TarynRMartin]

I 💯think of Animagi (from Harry Potter.)

[@Tremainexoxo]

nice double entendre.

[@Michellef1117]

Same here. Sorry buddy, I don't watch Sci fi haha

[@pickledjellybean5016]

I still don't know what shapeshifting girl means...

[@jeffyboyreloaded]

imagine being a full grown adult needing other adults to "check in on you" because you might get triggered during a discussion

[@rickastley9200]

Right? Like why even go to a debate/discussion if you're not prepared to hear different opinions.

[@lodovico9281]

over someone else politely disagreeing to boot how do people function in the world

[@gln80sgirl30]

@@lodovico9281 clearly they don't!

[@vegan.3176]

I think it might actually be a smart idea, since a lot of debates on KZbin consist of people tenaciously defending their pov without considering the others. Creates a nucer atmosphere for exchange

[@Sarahizahhsum]

​@@vegan.3176i agree with the vegan (for once)

[@gabriellealiyah1499]

I'm sorry but Jamie literally went in front of cameras for a d e b a t e and refused to continue speaking when Blaire said that she disagrees with Jamie I'm sorry? why would you intentionally subject yourself to that if you know it will upset you?

[@dt05]

GraySun69484529 that’s how these idiots “debate”. They don’t bring facts, they bring emotions. They wait until they “feel” insulted, cry like little babies, and expect that to be the “winning blow” for them.

[@asssleybigrackin2379]

ATTENTION

[@thelotus8285]

Two sides of the coin- Blaire went in on that NonB amd checked her on the trans definition. But if you wanna protect your guest, the interviewer did a great job saving (it). Nonetheless, I agree with you.

[@wj0067]

Professional Victim

[@FishFreddy]

Because they aren't looking for a debate, they are looking for people who must blindly agree with them or else they will shame them.

[@elisemarshall5751]

When the moderator asked Jamie if he was okay that was the cringiest and most uncomfortable thing I’ve ever watched lmao

[@gethelp6678]

Seriously....how ridiculous was that!? This was supposed to be a debate, with adults, and they were being coddled like kindergartners.

[@PizzaBerryCrunch]

The moderator knew Blaire had a different opinon that Jamie had no skill to defend because Jamie really doesn't understand Trans people. The problem is still there nothing changed and thats why the LGBTQ needs to be united. Also why that moderator probably shouldn't be moderating debates if they can't handle listening to and understanding different opinions.

[@Dank_Engine]

I am still laughing about that shit...

[@nimloc1670]

Elise Marshall Facts

[@Mjones5018]

Elise Marshall why come to a damn debate and not be able to debate

[@Jeffko78]

"I will not be run off social media by a bunch of 16-year-olds who 10 years ago would've been the emo kids, but now wanna be the trans kids, okay?" SAVAGE!

[@rayjay1543]

and this is why we love her. TKO

[@justinahernandez3794]

I died 💀💀💀

[@Empress8828]

That was a read

[@jennyb3314]

❤️❤️ loved this

[@breannenicole9264]

I read this comment right when she said it & it tripped me out, but so accurate lol

[@ladyjames4908]

Blair, i am a 70 yr old grandma who has a grandson (age 25) that has recently told us he is trans sexual. I have been trying to watch as many videos to understand and support my grand son. It is doubly stressful because both his father and uncle (my sons are both very close to Jamie) and are pastors . You seem to be the only logical, sane person on KZbin. Thank you for being so open.

[@susi9242]

@subemelaradio♫ her sons are her grand sons father and uncle, like she said.

[@123spoon7]

Appreciate the effort you put to support your grandson!

[@ximar0ckstrx]

I love that you are on a journey to support your grandchild. You have no idea how priceless your support is for them. We need more people like you in the world 💛

[@clairehann2681]

You should ask him some serious questions about why he wants to transition and why he thinks he's Trans. There's no such thing...only the drive to want to change. Ask him why and how he thinks things would be better. Transition is physically dangerous. It should be avoided at all costs. It's something you do, not something you are.

[@clairehann2681]

And I say these things as a liberal person. The more you know about this industry the more you can smell the scam

[@silverc.8105]

When you're so obsessed with getting rid of gender rules that you write a whole new set of even more complicated and strict gender rules

[@MrDarren690]

bobburt dugnut Perfectly sums up the irony here. The concept of “be whatever you want, whenever you want” is all but overwritten with all of these labels, ruling, and arguments.

[@ShadowarsLP]

Now THATS a good boy!

[@ShadowarsLP]

Or girl... I don't know! I just love your doggo!

[@silverc.8105]

@@ShadowarsLP haha thank you it's a picture from his birthday. Can't have a picture of myself on KZbin because dudes will just start calling you a cunt as soon as they realize you're a girl 😂

[@nysw252]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DigitalDevil]

It sucks being a lesbian who's also a tomboy, because people assume that I'm one of those non-binary people when I'm just a really gay woman. It affects a lot of people and it's annoying.

[@justinforillinois]

Seriously. Everyone needs to go get themselves a copy of Stone Butch Blues by Leslie Feinberg, sit their asses down, read it, and understand why we need to go back to having a very clear line in the sand between actual trans people and cisgender androgynous people or cis femme people or cis butch people. There was a line. And now that line is gone. And it's destroying the trans community.

[@isthatallowed2887]

Do people call you a he/him lesbian bc I’ve heard people call butch lesbian he/him because they present masc

[@littleoreo7717]

I always guess they called you trans but I see your point.

[@justinforillinois]

@@isthatallowed2887 I've had people tell me that I hate myself so much that I'm trying to grasp onto my "lesbian identity" -- news flash, I never identified as a lesbian once in my life. And my partner is a cis gay man, so... lawl.

[@wormjam6178]

Bro same. (I'm bi and dress tomboyish but still pretty much the same experience)

[@zombypuppy]

“I’m going to stop you, Jamie are you okay?” the whole point of doing this is to debate and talk about different beliefs so why tf do they think they can just stop you from talking because you don’t agree with someone and someone gets emotional like suck it up if you can’t take it don’t go ?

[@calilovett2063]

That's what I thought, too. It's a DEBATE. You are there to challenge someone's point of view, and have yours equally challenged. If someone is not emotionally equipped to do that, they shouldn't participate at all.

[@hermit1211]

Ugh ikr I feel bad sharing a name with this idiot 🤦🏼

[@veolaperry7165]

I felt the same while watching it. It’s a debate. A situation where facts trump emotions. In a true debate if you got emotional you either calmed ya ass down, got destroyed with facts or get the fuck out. Like in my debate club, emotional people weren’t allowed cause they couldn’t handle it.

[@melvinlewin8304]

It's hard when the debate in question is about your identity though. There are so many examples when trans women are called aggressive and violent for getting upset during a debate regarding the question if their identity, their life, is real or not. I feel like this is the same thing really. Wether you believe nonbinary people exist or not, just imagine being in their shoes. Having your identity questioned c o n s t a n t l y. Trying to live as yourself with no support from the rest of society and struggling to find words to describe how you really feel. That person, Jamie, seemed a lot more hurt than Blaire. Maybe they have mental health problems the moderator knew about. Idk. Asking someone if they are ok during a debate doesn't seem like worst crime to me.

[@natem8586]

Melvin Lewin then don’t debate simple if your not yet secure with your own identity and know everything there is to know about it don’t debate it.

[@FishFreddy]

"How are you doing?" during a debate. I'm sorry, are we dealing with children or adults. How does "How are you doing?" have relevance during a debate. What is the answer, their feelings are hurt. You can speak your mind and people will hurt your feelings with their views. That's being a mature human being of any sex. Or in short: This moderator treated this person as a child.

[@khmiiinaa4933]

They will be like this is offensive . Bruh it meant to be that way cuz it’s a debate .snowflakes that don’t even believe in science and need help not acceptance .

[@chelseapthib36]

I couldn't agree more. How TF are we supposed to function as a society if everyone is worried about hurting grown ass people's feelings! My feelings stopped being hurt in high school, 13 years ago.

[@zionistgoddessofstars]

The thing is what about Blaire's feelings? Apparently it was all about Jamie's, but dismissed how Blaire felt.

[@AozumiNatty]

Yes

[@adrianaayala8249]

Perfect example of VICTIMHOOD🙌🏻✨

[@MonsterVSAnimal2]

“Shape-shifting girl (probably)” WTF 💀

[@missquinn7379]

Should just change it to "attention seeker"

[@anacaeiro1049]

(probably) pahahahha

[@KatekyoKen]

💀💀💀💀

[@MonsterVSAnimal2]

Ana Caeiro ikr the (probably) part SENT ME 😂😭

[@chrishenniker5944]

Adam V. A certain Mr David Icke would like to speak to her.

[@thelaughingman6975]

Non binary lesbian? Non binary shapeshifting girl (Probably)? People are coming up with creative larp characters

[@mephosto]

i does make me want to stock up on silver bullets for a second reason. fabulous murder is the first.

[@samsh0-q3a]

Attack Helicopter is going to stop being a joke soon

[@Lillith333]

I blame Tumblr

[@rickrollrizal2364]

@@Lillith333 did you read the tumblr gender posts? Someone made a video about it. I think Blaire did one.

[@jordanofshadowlightening6040]

I love this comment

[@reneguerra6003]

Moderator: Are you ok? Jaime: Yea... Blaire: Was that a moment for you?

[@fullup91]

Yesss

[@saraleguene4246]

Not funny kid

[@andis7187]

Sara Leguene it kinda is

[@MorderczyElf]

@@saraleguene4246 oh girl it's debatable.

[@BathoryDusk]

ROFL

[@salemthorup9536]

My pronouns are "royal highness/excellency", and you can address me by bowing or giving me money.

[@jasminethealaddin1186]

Purrrr 😭😭

[@SuperMarkizas]

I always identified as God/God, I prefer a prayer upon meeting, hello your royal highness.

[@megauser8512]

lol

[@KremIsis]

My love, is that you?! Sorry, I took you for my ex-girfriend. Wait. Baby, is that you...?

[@samanthasamsimpson7201]

Mines are "money/go BRRR"

[@slashbash1347]

Spoilers: Not having 100% masculine or feminine traits is called a personality, not a gender.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

Right? I've seen guys who don't identify as women but still like things that are seem as more feminine, and the vise versa of course. These people seem to act like only guys like 100% masculine things and women only like 100% feminine things, and if you don't then you're a different gender.

[@ihatemickiegee]

I know right? they're the only ones making gender a "social construct" - by saying THIS EXACT SHIT ... it wouldnt have to be debatable or controversial if you just said "fuck your norms,, yes I'm a male but I am feminine and I'm allowed to be so suck my flowery dick and get on with your day" now THAT would be magical and something id be in support of

[@Abadonedaccount123]

Thank you

[@conceptsound5]

Slashbash I have been saying this for the longest time. I am glad that someone else share this view

[@skybear17]

I agree..its different tho when someone wants to change some parts of their genitalia and not the other. There are non binary males who have boobs and non binary females who gets top surgery...THATS when I believe they're non binary and not just "both feminine and masculine"

[@5slistenup.a10isspeaking2]

“Designated female at birth/ shape shifting girl” When did labels become a game of Pokemon? You’re not tryna catch em all

[@ramennoodles4180]

Animated Scribbles 🤣🤣🤣😭I was like what

[@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201]

I don't understand what that was supposed to mean though

[@blowdowntoppianna1123]

Jajajajajajajaja😁 OMG 🙈 woahhhhhhh

[@callingthevoid]

Animated Scribbles i’M a gEnDeR sHaPeShiFtEr 🤪🤪

[@dhubbs]

Dont forget the (probably) 😆 .. If someone told me their label & it ended with the word probably id have a hard time not saying "probably? So you agree then, that there's a chance that ur not that?" Lmao

[@ScissorWhit]

I watched that when it came out and the moderator was way out of line by cutting you off.

[@LadyAtoli]

Blaire was literally the only one initiatiating discussion. Everyone else just wanted to have a pity party. Blaire was asking questions and no one wanted to engage her lol.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

It's getting beyond ridiculous. It's a trend now to be " different " Completely ruining it for those who truly feel and are " different"

[@megauser8512]

Sad but true! I blame the "everyone gets a trophy" culture for all these people wanting to feel special by creating several sexualities and genders out of thin air.

[@andrewnichols1023]

Exactly, it’s now woke to be different, but they are playing at it, they aren’t doing life changing surgery like trans people, they are just calling each other different names.

[@SangitA]

@@andrewnichols1023 you can find non binary people in comments who transitioned. So. .

[@andrewnichols1023]

@@SangitA Well That makes no sense, why transition to the opposite sex if you don’t identify as that sex. In either body you are going to feel uncomfortable. I think that’s a minority, most just stick a label on themselves and wear gender neutral cloths.

[@danellymani205]

I think the actual point is that everyone is different. Everyone has something unique and special about them.

[@12DAMDO]

"i'm gonna stop you! jamie, how are you?" woah how rude of her to manterupt you like that

[@DeezNuts-th3ce]

12DAMDO “manterupt” omfg💀💀

[@mimoleta]

I don't think you are fit for society when you need someone to check up on you because someone else exposed a different point of view than you have lmao Dude was on the verge of having a mental breakdown

[@DickDawsome]

@@mimoleta I hate to be that guy, but he should have broke down to show how emotionally fragile these people are

[@robertapascal6962]

She did manterupt Blair! What a sexist bleep.

[@Keirnoth]

Blaire tries to go into actual facts via medical definitions and shit and of course this guy/girl/whatever stops her. Blaire should've glared at that person and go "Was that a moment for you?"

[@lizzylulu1309]

"16 year olds who ten years ago wouldve been the emo kids" yes blaire!! 🤣

[@crystalmethany6286]

I literally choked 😂

[@gagestandingready1472]

SUPREME VICTORY!

[@jacobq.2204]

I would say a good portion of the trans, bi, non binary act are just people trying to fit in and be special. So yah I totally believe they would be the emo kids.

[@Meep295]

@@jacobq.2204 how can they fit in if they're different? If they wanted to fit in then they'd dress like a basic instagram girl/boy.

[@breeny09]

FUCKING EXACTLY. I’ve been saying this!!

[@outside8312]

I don't even remember people's names 90% of the time. I don't care what you want to be called, you're gonna get called mate

[@murderoustendencies]

I get a feeling this comes after an "oi".

[@murderoustendencies]

I guess your pronouns are oi/mate ? hahaha ! :)

[@magiconic]

It doesnt matter who you are, everyone is a "...heeeey... friend..." in my book.

[@Happinezz_]

This but "dude" and "bro"

[@hanakokun8641]

YEs

[@MG-qh1qi]

I love this simple definition: The goal of non-binary people is to completely destroy and deconstruct the binary. And the goal of trans people is to operate within the binary as in moving from one to the other. Language use is so important, and the dominating attitude to destroy language and reshape it is really just a new form of colonization. I love your simple dissection and acknowledgment of words.

[@basedgod6016]

explain how this has anything to do with colonisation. personally i'd argue language is colonising the debate by turning issues of identity into issues of semantics

[@mikeexits]

Reminds me a lot of Terence McKenna's points on language influencing reality. I fundamentally disagree with the popular statement "the limits of my language mean the limits of my reality." But the way you use language certainly has a powerful impact on our perception of reality as well as on the state of being of the other person you're talking to, and how they interpret what you're trying to communicate. So many people have different associations with the same words that intellectual discourse across this artificial divide is almost impossible.

[@fatalhug5998]

When you think about it gender is a social contract says trans people are a social contract therefore are making a gender a contract if you represent treat them as the gender they want to be

[@shareathought769]

You can't deconstruct xx and xy. It is what it is.

[@tysonrinker5958]

Very profound

[@c00000000g]

“Designated female at birth/Shape-shifting girl (probably)” wow

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Yeah that was just...gross.

[@eddietheunggoyslayer3904]

The SJWs are the new religious right

[@MilouPaint]

Anyone trying to guess what shape-shifting mean?

[@eddietheunggoyslayer3904]

@@MilouPaint What the person is saying is that their genetalia changes

[@rockrageproductions]

Thats what an alien says when questioned about its gender and it answers really fast lol

[@rumrunner8019]

Whatever happened to men who were more feminine and women who were more masculine just being okay with it and not needing a new label?

[@josiahforgotagain]

it’s not just being a man and liking girl things, vice versa. i could explain if wanted.

[@forsenE]

ppl came along with new labels and spread it onto other ppl

[@CatAclysm286]

THATS WHAT I SAY ALL THE TIME AND THEN GET CRUCIFIED FOR IT. Im always been somewhat of a tomboy growing up but im not out her being like ohh im offended by she her pronouns because im not actually a girl

[@thishandleistakek509]

As a more masculine female I can confirm that we are still here but we’re just hiding

[@ABC-cq5hm]

That wouldn't make them feel special and unique

[@oliviarose4869]

“I will not be run off social media by a bunch of 16 year olds who 10 years ago would’ve been the emo kids” ...MOOD

[@dt05]

Olivia Rose was that a moment for her? XD

[@cactuscallie5090]

Seriously the part from the HBO panel where the moderator basically tells Blair to be quiet to check on that non-bianary person, that just warrants the BIGGEST eye roll in the damn world 🙄 Moderator: "Jamie, how are you doing?" Jamie: *dramatic sigh followed by a deep breath, then the shaky voice* "I'm OK..." Seriously???!!! COME the F*** ON!!! It's as if they are asking her/him/them to talk about her/his/their mother's suicide.

[@antzooma]

this is what happens when you try and call out narcissists on their own hypocrisy, they play the victim and don't want to listen to reason

[@uggggggghhhhh]

they ask you how you are and you just have to say that you're fine but you're not really fine

[@tesssshtshow8905]

I know right way too cringy

[@veilbreak5867]

Words they dont want to hear are now acts of 'violence!'

[@sapphic384]

Lmao. Yeah, hypocritical tbh. Is the only way to watch it thru HBO? The debate reminds me of debates from Jubilee. I honestly thought that's where the debate was on at first till I watched the video. Lol.

[@whoneedsguyswhenyouhavecat7681]

“I’m gonna stop you, are you ok?” Cringe.

[@Vlekistan]

Is everybody really desperately fragile, or is that the pose du jour?

[@bernadettedevereux4489]

@@Vlekistan pose du jour...definitely

[@starraidz791]

I literally had to hit stop and skip because that was just soooooo fucking cringe

[@Sum1BetrThanU1]

It wasn’t a real journalism. Very disappointed in vice

[@gxs2542]

Sorry if you feel slightly challenged in this safe space I'm going to report if you feel okay

[@sarah-tr2fv]

imagine going on a debate panel and getting mad when someone debates what you’re saying.

[@montgomeryortiz1355]

Exactly!

[@Mama_vaeda_nellie_]

😂

[@quick_brown_fox]

Then putting on a pout and refusing to continue the discussion

[@sarah-tr2fv]

Myra Weinhandl-Schmidt right like that moderator really pissed me off. it’s a debate not a pity party.

[@alannadesilva]

deadass tho

[@RosieSquall]

Being a tomboy doesn't mean you're nonbinary. It just means you really like sports, toys and other activities traditionally "meant for boys". That's it. Seriously, it's not even that complicated.

[@cheri618]

RosieSquall THIS!

[@maikawaiip-chan2660]

Wow I havent heard the world tomboy used for over 10 years... Now people think girls that dress like that are studs...

[@forsenE]

Gee, the word tom-boy or tom-girl is so distant! I’m glad someone could refresh that for us.

[@jamiemations12]

@@cheri618 Same but tbh non binary ppl have gender dysphoria too

[@aestheticgarbage6671]

Jamie Mations a lot of them don't though :/

[@chocolatesugar4434]

Non-binary trans femme is a contradiction! You did well to speak up 👏🏾

[@oliviajohnson4687]

Goes to debate about the LGBT community Blaire: states opinion Everyone else: HOW DARE YOU DEBATE US

[@amandacogger3075]

I'm part of the LGBTQ community and think Blaire is a legend! She talks so much sense

[@professionalobese5529]

The thing I like with Blaire, is that even if sometimes I don't agree with her, she keeps it real, she's honest. She's got good points, she's got receipts, and she's unapologetically herself. We stan

[@MaryJane-tp3qd]

Olivia Johnson how I’ve felt the past few weeks just commented on any subject ever (on KZbin, and depends on what channel if I get the “HOW DARE YOU” or the “your opinion matters, would you like to hear my side too?” Instead)

[@marie-evest-louis1758]

Huh yeah! When you state an opinion, you must understand others will share their opinions, if you dont want to have to debate your opinion, then, you just do not share yours and keep it to yourself.

[@bridgetjensen2183]

Like......"is that not what we're doing here"

[@bahahahahahhaha]

People love to shut up someone who’s making sense because their scared their views are going to be challenged. And their insecurities on the topic will be revealed. Shame on the moderator who brought people together to shut up someone who doesn’t share the same views🤭 sounds like “if you’re not me then you’re not validated to speak”

[@michelguevara151]

bit like being a man these days, I have the right to stfu because Y. dogmatic, mentally ill, crybullying narcissists. this all started with feminists taking over the gay rights lobby.

[@KaliDurga108]

@@michelguevara151 huh

[@Indi3R]

@@michelguevara151 it doesnt just belong to the dudebros

[@user-if9oh6zt1j]

@@michelguevara151 wtf that has no relevance

[@pavvey1605]

I had a non binary and it's mother demanded me to respect her and they got pissed at me cause I said "Respect is earn not given"

[@austinhurley3882]

Why did they tell you to be quiet at a debate??? Like if you didn't want opinions then don't have a debate

[@HR-zj3eo]

That's just it. They wanted agreement and confirmation.

[@NokoFace]

They didn't want a debate. They wanted an echo chamber.

[@gingermaniac5484]

They didn’t want a debate. They wanted an echo chamber.

[@InsomniacDoggo]

They didnt want a debate they wanted an echo chamber.

[@beautifullEternal]

Praise Jihyo that shit was soooo painful to watch. And I’m a terf lmao

[@harouns.4280]

I think people confuse the term non-binary with the term androgynous... Non-binary describes your gender, where you don't exclusively feel completely female/male. Androgynous, on the other hand, describes how you represent your outward appearance like with fashion, where you can naturally look somewhere in between or your fashion not being either girly or manly. So you can be a transexual, since you're more confrotable being in the other sex, and still like to represent yourself somewhere in between, being a androgynous.

[@riveraharper8166]

Well androgynous to me is Tilda Swinton. The first two people on the other hand is...

[@missbee9140]

A transexual is a sexual invert. Incomplete sexual inverts fall under the ‘gay’ term. They are incomplete sexual inverts because they can not pass as the opposite sex, generally because they didn’t start taking birth control pills around 12 for biological males and thus became too masculinized. Eventually even those transexuals on hormones will become too masculinized when they get older and won’t be able to attract straight men as sexual partners. As far as sex is concerned you either want to penetrate / dominate / masculine or be penetrated/ submissive / feminine. Bisexuality doesn’t really exist as long as your sexual preference remains the same. Moreover narcissists will use their sexuality to control others and bisexuality is just that - a matter of collecting and controlling their primary objects. Read more at rod fleming dot com and learn about the new gay male.

[@gilangzaidan8454]

I think you mean gender identity, gender identity is how you feel in relation to your actual gender (masculine or feminine) it doesn't have to match your actual gender and it's a different thing to gender

[@kamalionify]

THIS !!!👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@alleycat616]

It’s annoying because we already had a word for it. Androgynous. Why did we need a new word for it?

[@collinmclaren6608]

"who ten years ago would have been emo kids, but now wanna be trans kids" PREACH IT, SISTER!!

[@BrittBabsUT]

That line was fire and I loved it! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mydogprick]

I never heard it so nailed perfect cut and dry to the nose lolooo

[@notsosuperhero]

i literally clapped when she said that lol

[@ohfortheloveofguacamole6803]

lol. I loved that line.

[@cameliss17]

"I'm not cancellable" PREACH GIRL "I will not be run off social media by a bunch of 16 year-olds who ten years ago would've been the emo kids, but now wanna be the trans kids" NOTHING BUT TRUTH HERE OMG ICONIC

[@allybazikos9580]

FOR REAL MAN. WHAT A BURN

[@vickyxx197]

Freaking love Blair, such a badass lady

[@mysterygirl1890]

Blaire is a breath of fresh air

[@ryannt.2143]

Hallelujah Camilla G!! You need to preacher preach on too👉💯👈

[@berenikapeslova7936]

I only watch blair sometimes and I donr want youtube to spamm me with LGBT+ stuff so Im not subscribed but this oh damn :D I dont even give lieks often but this did desrved one :D

[@IsomerMashups]

"I will not be run off social media by a bunch of sixteen year-olds who ten years ago would have been emo, but now want to be the trans kids. Mkay?" **DAMN**

[@silver-fr4wz]

sixteen year olds ten years ago would’ve been six though lmao

[@genecreamers240]

@@silver-fr4wz Do you really not understand the statement?

[@kk8490]

gerard way is actually god xoxo bruh.

[@minteaness]

gerard way is actually god xoxo r/woosh

[@user-yp4of7zl7f]

5:20 I am stunned. A person off camera felt like they actually had to STOP the conversation for a moment to check in on that non binary guy as if he was actually in emotional distress. Has are society degraded so much that adults behave like children in preschool, without the slightest inkling of a backbone? Like seriously what the hell is happening?

[@clairehann2681]

What's insane is how long its been going on now

[@maikerukage816]

"who 10 years ago would have been the emo kids but now wanna be the trans kids" YAAAS. I've said this exact thing. It's so obvious.

[@RadioCyber]

Honestly, if your gender changes if you put on Jean's you're just following the very gender roles you claim to hate.

[@mickadams1905]

Absolutely, if a guy wears a dress and makeup but still says I'm a guy that's actually way more progressive.

[@LadyBern]

@@mickadams1905 you think that would be easy but it's not. Guy named Monroe on here is a cross dresser, likes cute clothes and more feminine things but he still identifies as a man. But a few members of the trans community tried to convince him he's trans even disrespects his pronouns. I've actually seen them go on about what a "misguided egg" he is. Basically guys could do it but there will be people who will try to force the terms on them.

[@anacaeiro1049]

Interesting!!

[@ferninthehouse]

I been saying this

[@InvaderTak176]

@@LadyBern Therefore going against what they preach, essentially admitting they need a rule of thumb to function in this world; Their rule of thumb is just blurred further than the norm.

[@littleoreo7717]

I will seriously never understand ppl who identify themselves nonbinary and male/female at the same time.

[@alias7911]

It’s just so contradictory, how can you be not a male or female, and also be a female?

[@demonhuntermoonwolf244]

Now granted not all of them are like that but giving a honest estimate, at least half of the non-binary community has been infiltrated by pedophiles. Facts are facts.

[@alias7911]

Demonhunter FPV the only reason I give non binary people the benefit of the doubt is because I have a non binary friend who genuinely experiences dysphoria and has transitioned to the best of their ability

[@qilyeon1956]

from what I've seen and my understanding, they mean like feminine or masculine? I could be wrong but that's just from people I've met that are non-binary but leaning to one side or the other

[@qilyeon1956]

@VexedOutVegan yeah, but I'm guessing to some NB that's different to saying they're "non-binary female" and " non-binary male" ?

[@ashnoelle8694]

When you have to stop the debate to check on someone after they simply heard a viewpoint that was different from theirs.

[@DWAkhaten]

5:04 Wait, did Jamie just say "you don't know my life" when he got upset at Blaire? That line has been used to mock emo teenagers so many times since the 80's, it's really funny to see someone break it out unironically.

[@hannahjames6033]

Some of us former emo kids weren't that sensitive, fortunately for my high school teachers

[@richardokeefe7410]

And the lack of self-awareness, given that HE doesn't know HER life.

[@queenmoonracer]

"I'm gonna stop you. Jamie how are you doing?" That was the cringiest thing I've seen in my life

[@mjbgjkhjjvghj502]

he goes to a debate. lmao if you cant handle people disagreeing DONT GO TO A DEBATE

[@queenmoonracer]

@@mjbgjkhjjvghj502 right !!

[@jordiflower]

Maggie R 🤢

[@jordiflower]

ladybug wut LEGIT

[@j27044]

She was biased don’t have the host be someone who is going to get mad hearing someone who disagrees cause then you have this she’s playing favorites and not letting Blair explain herself

[@chrisjonathon2658]

That clip where that guy was acting offended was so irritating!! Ugh I was cringing so hard!!

[@sarina1234ful]

If I was the non binary person I'd be actually mad, it was so patronizing and cringey. Like make a big spectal of their fragility lol

[@Noble-Nova]

They clearly need a ton of counseling & therapy if even a disagreement as simple as that gets under their skin that deeply.

[@questionable803]

I'm not Republican fully but it makes liberals/non binary people soooo stupid 😂😂

[@boheadlam1177]

I don’t understand why so many people are so emotionally fragile. If you disagree with them, they seem liable to crumble.

[@questionable803]

@@boheadlam1177 exactly 😊

[@LightningStrikes2345]

It’s so true “you do not get to say, I’m not a female but I also am a female who is attracted to females”

[@DeNaMiTaKi]

Why be in a DEBATE panel if you're SO easily upset by someone else merely VOICING a different opinion (in a civilized manner nevertheless), letting the moderator shut them down instead of you??

[@beholdento]

Well I'm sure it doesn't help that Blaire categorically denies their transness in front of them. I'm sure Blaire wouldn't think it very nice if someone said she wasn't really trans (lol). Non binary people experience gender dysphoria too and Blaire doesn't know those people, so it is kind of shocking for her to come out the cuts making sweeping generalizations. Lol.

[@DeNaMiTaKi]

The thing is, this is -again- a debate. You WILL be confronted by people with different opinions than you and you will have to make your point against theirs, otherwise it's not a debate, it's just people ranting at each other. I'm not saying it is a bad thing to be sensitive, especially about these topics, but if this means you cannot handle people coming for you,then you shouldn't be in a debate , where you KNOW this will happen.

[@beholdento]

@@DeNaMiTaKi I'm not disagreeing with any of what you just said. However you notice they don't call Blaire's transness into question. Why should Blaire call anyone elses transness into question without even knowing them? That's not a healthy debate at all, that's a low blow. She categorically says NB people aren't trans when there are plenty of NB people who transition (me included) is all I was trying to say. And she does this because she sees herself as the True Trans here, when it turns out her experience isn't the only experience, nor the only "valid" experience.

[@beholdento]

@@DeNaMiTaKi basically all I meant was that in a civilized debate, in my opinion, Blaire wouldn't just come out of nowhere and say that some random person next to them (mean or not) isn't trans just because she doesn't think they are. As I and I'm sure many other people have said: binary trans people are not the only ones with gender dysphoria. Blaire just happens to be one of the louder voices, and sees herself within the binary.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Exactly, that was pathetic and so cringey...boohoo I can't handle another opinion they're a bigot wahhhh

[@PorkChopBatter]

YESS FINALLY! I’m a trans man and I have the exact same views in this situation- my trans friends totally disagree with me and it’s good to feel like I’m not alone with my opinions. Thank god! Ps: ignore the shit going on in the comment section

[@tannerhamilton6025]

@@dt05 yo chill hes agreeing with you

[@PissByProxy]

@@dt05 who hurt you

[@dt05]

Alice no anger Alice. Just pointing out the trans community created this monster. You know it. I know it. We all know it. And apparently it’s time for the “next gen” to shine.

[@dt05]

Sushi the trans community

[@dt05]

Alice I never said trans people should end their life you lying sack of shit. I want trans people to get HELP. Disagree with me on that help if you want, but don’t you EVER accuse me of wishing death on someone.

[@고양이-i3b]

5:37 why'd he turn up to a debate unwilling to hear other's opinions? that's literally the point of the discussion

[@sackofpeas2470]

Because Blaire was acting out with "wrong think". You either tow the line or are the enemy. This comes up a lot with feminists who are against Trans-women in women sports or placing themselves in areas that only affect biological women. They get called TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) and pushed from the group, even though many probably agree on 90% or more of other issues.

[@milkweedsage]

@@sackofpeas2470 TERFs get called that because it's a correct acronym. they are radical feminists who exclude trans women by saying "they aren't real women!" i expect they ought not to have an issue being called TERFs. unless, of course, they simply leave trans women alone and focus on whatever other 90% you're referring to.

[@lifesucks1652]

Terfs are the worse... also, I'm like lowkey against trans women competing against women who were born female, only because tran women have the advantage of still having testosterone thus making them better athletes. But I promise you, I am not at all against trans women competing in womens sports. Trans women are very much real women, but sadly terfs don't see it that way

[@CounterCultureWISE]

We, as a society, have lost the ability to say, "NO." Children need to have set boundaries, or they'll take over. Now we have a society of spoiled brats.

[@maximusralte777]

Very true very true. The govt. should not involve if a parent spank their children. A little spanking is required. I am not talking about those abusive systems where they beat you beat your child so badly. I am an Asian. Asian mom's do that all the time. They do it because they love us, so that we wont be crazy like the gen z in the west. The gen z in other Asian, African countries are not like these. And both Asian and African are known to use a little bit of spanking in their discipline system. More discipline is required in adolecense. Because that is when they start to have their own opinions. Parents must do their best so that they can value integrity, morals and the right way of living. The west is going to fall very soon.

[@CounterCultureWISE]

@@maximusralte777 "going to" No, hon, it's fallen. We're a banana republic with mentally ill and senile leaders, while the rest are too lazy or stupid to take over. It's time for a separation and reset.

[@lovenpeace319]

"I'm will not be run off social media by a bunch of 16-year-olds who 10 years ago would've been the emo kids but now wanna be the trans kids." I wanted this tattooed.

[@hannahjames6033]

Okay but I refuse to think that I would've wanted to be a wannabe trans kid if I was 16 now. I'll stick with my emo past.

[@cassiellis9365]

@Ocean Waves I graduated in 2014, so I can confirm this. Those were dark times.

[@natashahall-baran8071]

Yessss

[@gabenegron2373]

RIGHT 💀💀💀

[@Chefgrlangel]

5:18 so we're treating adults like children now? Handle yourself in a conversation good lord this isn't kindergarten. Wtf

[@iBeFloe]

Ikr wtf They’re all adults. Handle yourself.

[@mjbgjkhjjvghj502]

he goes to a debate. lmao if you cant handle people disagreeing DONT GO TO A DEBATE

[@Justdance6336]

Yes it’s so infuriating. That clip seriously boils my blood. And also the clear bias of the stupid so-called “moderator.”

[@aayygirl1408]

A concept: Blaire wearing her hair up in a messy bun in her next video

[@ravenmaiden1391]

Leigh Anne ooooh she’d look amazing in that

[@BU1Lander]

I'd be for it. I think she could pull it off nicely.

[@makaylagacha7253]

Y E S

Goddamnit, now I'm going to be up all night trying to figure out what 80s Music Video Girl Blaire reminds me of. The thought occurred to me on occasion, here and there, but now your suggestion reminded me of Van Halen's "Hot For Teacher", but no, that's not the video I was thinking of... This is going to drive me nuts.

[@LeaflyLane]

Ooooooooooooh yesssssssssssss

[@Nislan045]

I miss the "good old days" when being LGBT was just about sexual orientation and people transitioning for legitimate reasons, it was still looked down upon but atleast it was based in reality. Now it’s ruined by SJW’s and whatever shit they come up with tomorrow.

[@InternetMouse]

Yes agreed. Its so stupid.

[@wetworms.]

Fr. I'm very far left leaning but I absolutely hate radicals.

[@Nislan045]

@@wetworms. I’m a leftist too, but attacking people because they don’t want to call you bunnyself is leftism taken too far.

[@LeviathanxAngels]

@@Nislan045right 😂 “cat gender” LOL just say you are a furry

[@charlotterosegodfrey-jones7577]

Imagine signing up to a discussion panel and then when someone tried to debate with you getting upset and refusing to talk 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[@banani2418]

you can't debate gender identity :DDD it's just the way you identify yourself

[@spankymonsterr]

@@banani2418 if *you* can't debate it, then don't sign up for it like the crier did lmao

[@banani2418]

@@spankymonsterr they didn't? The video they were in was not about that

[@jizzmonkey9679]

Thats raving queens for you,couldn't answer back so went for sympathy instead.

[@kafkollectif525]

She literally talked to them like she was a preschool teacher. I don’t remember the last time someone spoke to me like that. It’s insane

[@TikalKeria]

"16 year olds who ten years ago would have been the emo kids" You NAILED the nonbinary demographic lmfaooo

[@ryuko1000]

uwu nMn I cackled at this

[@DJ-by9oe]

Or better yet, they'd just be referred to as tomboys. But no, because they want to wear a snapback and a blue shirt, they're suddenly nonbinary or trans men.

[@TheSharmoota]

I feel insulted 😭. We emo kids were at least sane back in the day. Not delusional.

[@tiffanyrenee4632]

@@TheSharmoota same. We emo kids were just sad... not downright crazy... eh well on second thought 😂😂😂

[@sharpesttoolindeshed6361]

@@DJ-by9oe that's so true. What was wrong with being a tomboy, why did everything had to change to this bs

[@CrissyMoss]

They called me a tom-boy when I was little because I liked to climb trees, play with cars, get dirty, etc. I was still a girl, and there was nothing wrong with that. I loved that I could do all those things and still be ultra feminine and dress to the 9's when I wanted to. What I did, and liked, and believed, had absolutely nothing to do with my gender. Nor should it. That's called equality, I thought that's what we wanted. Gender dysphoria is an observable medical issue. Liking to wear dresses and grow a beard at the same time is just free expression. We shouldn't need a new word for that, it should just be okay to be yourself.

[@Nachocuppajo]

Crissy Moss PREACH

[@Neseine]

exactly, i grew up in a very masculine society, girls didn't even ride bikes after turning 10, and i liked dressing like a boy, because it meant more freedom, more fun outside, i was called a tomboy and was fine with it, i still had barbie and dresses and asked my mom to do my makeup for special occasions, then i grew up to be a strong woman and make my voice heard as so, being a boy wasn't about gender to me, it was only because my society gave them more rights than me

[@WDMurphy]

And in today's society, you would be snatched from your parents if they did not want to transition you because a teacher would have convinced others you were.

[@lizzm]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💞💞

[@suckapunch565]

There is a difference between gender expression and gender identity

[@cariwhited4004]

I have been told I cant call myself just a woman, I have to specify a cis woman... Like fuck no I don't and I won't.

[@flippinkatbug]

bro... SHUT UP. literally no one is telling you you have to call yourself a cis woman all the time. drama queen. it's a CORRECT term for you though.

[@ilovecatsandsoup]

@@flippinkatbugno shes a woman not a cis woman

[@motherofallfrogs6902]

I'm a girl with a pixie cut. You have no idea how many people have gone up to me and asked what I identify as.

[@scarleyscattering]

Same thing happend to me! I shaved my hair off because I fried it with bleach. Since that day everybody asks me if I want to transition into a boy or if I am a lesbian and I’m like: your hairstyle doesn’t represent your gender or sexuality?? I really dislike what our world has turned too and it’s almost ashaming to have at least one male feature to let everybody think that you’re trans.

[@motherofallfrogs6902]

@@scarleyscattering OMG I know right!? It's like could you ask me my name before my pronoun? Thanks. Like if they just asked my name they would know because I have a girls name.

[@Orchidlettux]

It's fine for me but it'd be awful if they just asks me what I identify as and never talk to me again. People always assume, and we can't really stop it from happening.

[@motherofallfrogs6902]

@@Orchidlettux But it's different when they ask you EVERY SINGLE DAY.

[@heylol3909]

@@scarleyscattering yea but a lot of trans people can look like that so they're just being polite

[@andreasoto4663]

imagine stopping someone during a completely valid debate just to ask the other party if they’re okay... i- do they know how debates work?

[@tiger_844]

That was so irritating. And then Jamie playing the victim uuuugh 🙄

[@jamesbrummett1682]

Sadly, that's the way of the world, now. You can't have an opinion outside of the accepted social commentary, because you might hurt someone's feelings. When did we become so soft as a society that "words will never hurt me" stopped being a thing? People need to realize that it's okay, normal even, to have your feelings hurt by someone and your opinions challenged.

[@stayism.corner]

My face dropped during that clip! Why participate in a debate if you’re too “emotional” to take hearing the other side?

[@estelarodriguez3611]

Incredible. Never watching Vice again.

[@summahthevegan3796]

Yeah that angered me so much

[@nellitoivonen8457]

"A bunch of 16 year olds, who 10 years ago would have been the emo-kids, but now want to be the trans-kids" This. This exactly summarises the whole point. All these 5489 new "genders" seem like a way to feel special. And like Blair said, if that makes them happy then go for it! But it's not comparable to having gender dysphoria and transitioning. Just like feeling upset because your mom won't buy you that shirt from Hot Topic is not severe depression...

[@mayne4460]

I’m SoRrY iTs AcTuAlLy 5490 gEnDers NoT 5489

[@jordo4707]

As a non binary person I would agree with you it’s said to see that my identity is just a tread and it sucks because people don’t take me seriously at all and I hate when they complain about depression and stuff because I actually deal with really bad thoughts and feeling about my self that I don’t tell anyone because I don’t want the attention and when and if I do try to seek help I fear I’ll be laugh at and mistaken for someone who wants attention when all I want is to be happy and be myself

[@nysw252]

Yep. Blaire hit the nail right on the head

[@RodFleming-World]

@@jordo4707get a job. Go to church. Take a 40 minute walk every day. Have at least 5 bottles of beer a week. Eat a decent steak once a week (hamburger if you're skint). Cancel your Tumblr and Twitter accounts. Get a touchpad phone that only does calls and tects. And GET A LIFE. Nobody owes you anything.

[@RodFleming-World]

@@branbrooke2585 over the last half century we have lost church, family and really, nation. All the things that made our identity have been taken

[@Ella-jz4mr]

I really love to see an ACTUALLY trans people side of this because every day nbs call me transfobic for not calling them Zir or bunny or whatever (even now this sounds ridiculous 👁️👄👁️) but yes thanks Blaire, you're awesome and really necessary

[@zionistgoddessofstars]

Well, now you have me too. Non-binary isn't trans. (I'm a trans woman too.)

[@Ella-jz4mr]

@@zionistgoddessofstars thank you queen ❤

[@dragongamer4753]

Do you live in california lol. Where do you find a new non binary person a day.

[@Ty-il8yw]

Blair is transphobic

[@Ty-il8yw]

Blaire*

[@DarthFurie]

I hate how much they overcomplicate it! If you wanna live as female, male, or androgynous just do it and stop making up all these new terms

[@JMBK666]

I think it’s fine to identify as you want, but why make it so confusing. Some labels are a bit out there, but understandable. Others are just a bunch of words strung together

[@DarthFurie]

@@JMBK666 I agree that at the end of the day people can self-identity however they wish, but some of these people have their heads so far up their own asses they've forgotten that we live in the real world. I don't wish ill on any of them but a lot of the people Blair spotlighted in this video are, in my opinion, doing WAY too much and being way too sensitive and militaristic about it

[@gempromhouse7311]

FateAndFurie yesss 👏👏👏👏 it is so messed up

[@megg.6651]

I agree! I think that they are more concerned with being "special" than anything else....

[@theuglybiker]

It's overcomplicated by design. It's so that no matter what you do, they can claim you are wrong and call you everything ending in 'ist' or 'phobe'.

[@audrey_975]

I identify as a skinny fitgirl while trapped in a potato body. I am transkinny and wish to be refered as « skinny legend » only.

[@lndintw]

LMAO ...nice one

[@jamiesmith2724]

I agree with you.

[@MsMouthy]

Audrey Bdr omg Same 🤣

[@mimiAnime1]

💀💀

[@Jay-ry1gs]

I identify as shape shifting bikini model non-binary fatty

[@Teachntalk123]

Oh my gosh the immaturity in interrupting you to check on the grown Jaime crying on camera because you don’t want Non-Binary people to play the transcard without putting in any effort. I would have walked away after being told to shut up like that no you invited different people here so be respectful and listen.

[@somethingclever8916]

Unless you're 16 or younger crying in public.... No. Especially since she knew what the debate was about

[@madikay822]

i wanted so badly in the moment of that vid to tell jaime to fuck right off. you’re an adult having a conversation. act like it.

[@ivytaylor1494]

Lindsay Zayas right??? Like aren’t you all adults and here to have a discussion yet you can’t handle someone disagreeing with you? Why is this considered normal now?

[@jenniferrose4321]

❤ I agree!

[@haripriyatk7865]

Right.... it was so biased.

[@MyThoughtsOnAnything]

We went from “A man must go with masculine traits and a woman must go with feminine traits” To “Let’s break gender stereotypes” To a new set of gender rules: “If you’re feminine, you’re a girl and if you’re masculine, you’re a boy”. 🤦

[@strawberryseason]

We used to call it "androgynous" back in the 80s. What's wrong with that?

[@jakedee4117]

Too 80s. Also you have to be real slim and cool to pull of the David Bowie "Thin White Duke" look. Much easier to be a hairy guy with makeup and a beard in a garish dress. Then you are a unique and interesting individual.

[@SE-cq4qg]

Yeah like they are just men/women who don't want to tranisition and wear the opposite gender clothing. It don't make you a new gender?

[@fsantos4199]

@strawberryseason Tumblr didn't exist back then.

[@nicolep2424]

Or in my case, Tom boy. No big deal. Right?

[@elijefferies1011]

Yeah I like that. Androgynous is hot

[@OldSchoolArchery]

"the 16 year olds who 10 years ago would have been the emo kids but now want to be the trans kids" i'm dead.

[@nal8503]

That was far too accurate.

[@TheNothingNetwork420]

Bullseye

[@katie3092]

Esther Cherukara THIS IS SO TRYE AHAHH

[@christinaFaith84]

Truth.

[@drewlax23]

Omg yessss to this

[@yerimchae2441]

thank you!! as a cis lesbian i feel so weird about non-binary people calling themselves a lesbian,,,like it's pretty simple if you're not a girl you can't be a lesbian

[@jamesandchante]

Yeah, she is a non-binary lesbian in the same way that I'm an elderly adolescent and a broke billionaire.

[@sleepyaugust2182]

Just say i like girls are they to concerned with labels to do that!?

[@yerimchae2441]

@@sleepyaugust2182 i think they just want another thing to add to their list lol

[@lokimemes4694]

As a cis lesbian, I couldn’t have said it better myself

[@peytongonzalez913]

same???? like bro being nb literally defeats the purpose of being a lesbian it makes zero sense

[@ItsTaniya]

I can’t get over the sensitive show they had to put on. “Are you okay?” Like you’re treating this adult like a child. This is where I keep my distance.

[@enayatchoudhury5431]

"I'm gonna stop you" Are you kidding me? How sensitive are these people? They're not children, for the love of God...

[@QuestionTheTruth-LIVE]

I love God(Life) too. ^^

[@GoddoDoggo]

@@QuestionTheTruth-LIVE honey, "For the love of God" is just a saying.

[@camiller958]

Dog God the fact that you had to clarify💀🤧😂

[@Alex-zl5ht]

So corny. Could you imagine? That wouldn't even happen in a college class. That's embarrassing

[@QuestionTheTruth-LIVE]

@@GoddoDoggo I know it is... Why did you feel the need to explain the obvious?

[@spet59]

"I am not cancellable!" That needs to be a shirt immediately!

[@Neo_Geisha]

Agreed.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

spet59 I second that!

[@lovely_amaterasu8511]

I third that!

[@josiecx]

The motion is passed

[@monomakesmecrystill1252]

Yes please

[@sofiatorning2021]

People confuse gender with gender-ROLES

[@gerald9547]

Sofia Törning well isn’t that the difference between gender and sex? sex is based on your anatomy and gender is based on the social and cultural norms assigned to men and women.

[@wxedsanddokx]

Yes! Constantly. As if its not possible to express your gender without filling an stereotypical gender role.

[@Textra1]

People confuse gender with sex. Humans have a sex, not a gender. Only words have gender.

[@sofiatorning2021]

Gerald Sure, but i do not see the point in refusing to identify with gender pronoun when it’s just a word to describe your biological sex. Just because you are a man or a woman that does not mean that you have to obide by the GenderROLE of your biological sex.

[@selty]

@@sofiatorning2021 Because that terms holds stereotypes and presumptions that some people don't identify with.

[@Anabellajazze]

As a non-binary person, I completely agree with you!!! I was so messed up because I knew I wasn’t trans and hated that people compared that experience?? Love your content SM 🙏🏻 thank u

[@lewweston8914]

‘Shape-shifting girl (probably)’ I’m sorry *w h a t ?*

[@blackcoffee9470]

Like seriously, man... I was confused too. I didn't even know that was a thing.

[@theparodywizard677]

@Miles Swann Mr. Gay frogs sounds more sane with each passing day and I am genuinely terrified of this... Mom, come pick me up I'm scared.

[@BathoryDusk]

@@blackcoffee9470 it definitely isn't a thing. Rofl

[@Nyemuul]

Pennywise.

[@raphaelalavi9385]

The Parody Wizard atrazine does turn male frogs female, so while not gay it does fuck with their hormones

[@ellieellie1317]

"a bunch of 16 year old who 10 years ago would have been the emo kids but are now just the trans kids" THIS. I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE 2015.

[@aris6756]

Sooo true!

[@AlicesMazduhs]

Honestly, it’s kinda an insult to those emo kids (not actually offended or anything, but hear me out). Those emo kids tend to retain some of that “emo”ness. Their music tastes evolve from the emo music while retaining some of the emo stuff too. And like, idk a lot of emo kids had depression or shit like that and that stuff gets better, but I feel like it’s not truly gone. And emo kids definitely look back and laugh like “what the FUCK was I doing wearing all those bracelets/dumb belts/all black/THICK ASS eyeliner?” but it’s not like you completely lose all that whereas a few years from now the non binaries will be like “yeah I’m just a woman/man, idk wtf that non binary shit was about” and really won’t hold onto anything. Source: ex-emo from like 5-7 years ago and there’s still a lot that’s “emo” about me, just a lot less embarrassing lol.

[@seamsungg]

@@AlicesMazduhs wht r u saying Did someone say emos arent emo anymore

[@AlicesMazduhs]

brsgrizzly well comparing them and nonbinaries, it’s kinda implied lol. Nonbinaries grow out of it and realize that they can still be a girl and like “masculine” things and it doesn’t make them a boy or an other.

[@cameronw.2775]

I identify as a pair of tits

[@cxentiYT]

What irritated me the most is that VICE clip, that moderator had the audacity to undermine Blaire for the sake of “Jamie’s feeewwwwiiiingssss.” If you’re going to be critical in a debate don’t be a baby and grow up.

[@darylesells19]

I watched it in it’s entirety when it came out and the only person making sense was Blaire.

[@whom420]

When I watched that when it came out that moment had me laughing.

[@lampm4n]

agreed, if you’re too emotionally fragile to hear a different opinion to yours you shouldn’t be going into debates/discourse lmao

[@monsedurne]

Exactly! If you’re willing to participate in a debate, it’s kind of implied that you’ll be facing opposite thoughts to yours, and as such you are of course supposed to know how to deal with them in a respectful manner UGh

[@Laura-in1xg]

They literally undermined Blaire's feelings as a trans woman for that dude pretending he was offended because her experience is different

[@JINX-The-Writer]

"Are you okay? You dont have to talk. Do you wanna talk?" *almost cries* Why are they even there?!?!?!

[@briannakaye94]

"Ally" gets a letter?? They might as well add an "H" for Heterosexual

[@Augmintt]

or S for straight (but that would mean truly being inclusive so no go)

[@poppysdaddi]

definitely not for me! allies are great to have but they aren’t a part of my community lmao

[@AnnelieseRozemarijnVT]

Allies are often considered LGBTQ in countries where it's generally more dangerous to come out as gay. By saying your an ally, you can be part of the community w/o coming out of the closet and ensuring your safety. That's why they are sometimes considered part of the community.

[@pineappleunicorn7729]

Augmintt heterosexual is straight 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@Augmintt]

@@pineappleunicorn7729 I know. Final frontier. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIvUZYuVqbN8e6M

[@rubyberrysundae]

last time i was this early onision was relevant

[@fanimeproductionst.v.3735]

So never?

[@factfinder4839]

@@fanimeproductionst.v.3735 exactly.

[@hiropon2985]

watch out, the onion is being peeled finally. 2019 is the year.

[@iUseDemFrapz]

@@fanimeproductionst.v.3735 2012

[@nataliefeliciano3726]

I'm literally done with these labels. There's no sense in them anymore so it's very hard to take them seriously

[@ANME1rocker]

Lol I tried figuring out a label for myself. I have concluded that I am just not totally straight.

[@Abadonedaccount123]

@@ANME1rocker take your time. Don't worry about labels for the moment. When the time comes, you'll know for sure.

[@Abadonedaccount123]

@@ckinch I agree with most of what you're saying. People are going to label you no matter what. There are gay people that "look straight" and some straight people that "look gay" and they may be perceived that way by other people. However, that doesn't mean you have to "look like your sexuality". Dress the way you want and be yourself is the most important thing. You shouldn't care about how other people see you or what they say about you. It's best if someone doesn't know who they are to not pressure themselves into finding a label at this exact moment because that can be stressful, and it leads to more confusion.

[@nataliefeliciano3726]

@@ckinch It's just when labels kinda start to get out of hand is when it's hard to take those people seriously.Bc its to the point where what they identify as contradicts to who they're attracted to.Like Blaire said about being non-binary lesbian.That's why its hard for people who don't identify with those labels or who aren't part of the lgbt community to really understand or to take them seriousluly

[@nataliefeliciano3726]

*seriously

[@giannis_tar]

I think the problem with the term non-binary is that it doesn't have an official and clear definition, thus people are appropriating it and applying to it their personal feelings. For example, some people seem to think that "non-binary" = "I don't care about society's expectations of my gender", thus creating the "non-binary lesbian" archetype. In any case, I agree with Blaire that non-binary shouldn't be considered trans. Typically the argument that is used to support that it should is that the original definition of trans is "a person whose gender is different than what they were assigned at birth", therefore claiming that this definition was meant to include non-binary as well. However, what these people miss is that when the term transgender became was created non-binar-ism wasn't a thing. At least non something that was widely known or had a term for it, so it arbitrary to conclude that the term was created with non-binary people in mind too. Not to mention that medically speaking these 2 are vastly different (but a lot of non-binary people like to shrug this off as "transmedicalism")

[@hayleyn8006]

what does 'shapeshifting girl (probably)' mean lol

[@Ayayayayagi]

maybe he thinks he'll one day magically shapeshift into a girl?

[@heroblue93]

Lmao i was thinking the same thing.. so we can just make up things now

[@northstar5240]

haley s I have no idea

[@michaelr5606]

haley s It means “my daddy never told me he loved me and now everything I do is for attention”

[@utterdisappointmemtmcr123]

She is probably mystique from x men

[@josiahforgotagain]

i respect non-binary people, HOWEVER... i don’t think that they can be lesbians or both identify as male + female at the same time because one, doesn’t make sense, and second, it kinda defeats the entire point of non-binary since it is NOT a binary gender.

[@faconda4364]

Preach.

[@thevoicesaysimalmostoutofm5710]

I fail to understand tumblr

[@paigebartlett9650]

PREACH Thank you. I identify as non-binary and completely agree with this statement.

[@risingsuperstarfrost3096]

A lot of nb people I know use "gynosexual" and "androsexual" to avoid this contradiction.

[@aaqqgg]

This! I am a lesbian and I thought that the "Can you be non-binary and lesbian?" video was awful. Lesbians are women who are primarily attracted to other women, so people who are not women cannot be lesbians by definition. Some of the comments they made about lesbians not wanting to date them were frustrating as well... if I am only attracted to women, why should I feel pressured into dating someone who is, by their own admission, not a woman? It's like a man complaining that a lesbian won't date him. The whole video was a train wreck.

[@summerfieldmartin912]

I'm an old woman. None of this made any sense until I came across your videos. I don't know if it's your intention, but you're serving an educational purpose. Thank you.

[@maisy1248]

Wait this is actually really lovely

[@Leo-jt1ti]

Scandalous peach because of basic respect to an older person, its called being decent and respectful basically.

[@hollylor]

THIS IS REALLY CUTE

[@chumbucket6989]

these comments make me glad that blaire exists. i don't agree with everything she says but she is a transgender source of information to a group of viewers that usually hears just one side of trans opinions.

[@jackmmcallister]

These people are simply making it difficult for people to interact with them. Maybe that's what they want and we're gonna give it to them.

[@practicalphilosophy301]

Using a pronoun based on preference rather than looks does take control over your own language. I give you that.

[@tysonasaurus6392]

"Okay I'm gonna stop you. Hey Jamie how are you doing?" *slowly zooms in on Jamie* anyone find this bit hilarious, like I couldn't tell you why I laughed so hard at it just something about the camera and timing was hilarious. I feel there is meme potential here Edit: timestamp is 5:04 :)

[@suddenlygreen8029]

This is my favourite comment. I love where your head went with this. 😆🤘 #MemeLife

[@LadyBern]

It's the same sorta crap shots they do in reality TV to hint that it's a significantly dramatic moment that the crew had to quickly yet slowly focus in on. The drama being someone may need to retreat because someone doesn't agree with them vs facing it.

[@PoohhNani]

#memelife

[@Neo_Geisha]

Lmao

[@haileyclark3476]

It seems lile a sketch. I love how they did that before blaire could even explain why she felt that way

[@gawdsentx]

Okay, “shape-shifting girl” made me spit out my water 😭😭😂😂

[@1987rsfeild]

Wiz She’s basically penny wise the clown.

[@w1nch3ster1]

@@1987rsfeild "The eater of worlds."

[@Lucky-ei6yh]

The way that so called "mediator" cut Blaire off was so rude. Sending my support to Blaire 👍

[@vexbanearamori7224]

@Chonghan L not entirely. the point of a moderator is to keep things on point without being favorable to one side. obviously this isnt the case.

[@ryanthomas49]

@Chonghan L no it's not, you idiot.

[@justinresch6169]

You have to make sure someone isn't so triggered they have a heart attack. Healthy debate and open conversation be damned.