The Worst TikTok Argument I've Ever Heard

TikTok, a land of opinions that go against mine, therefore they are wrong. I kid. But today, we look at a couple TikToks that put forth a pretty crazy viewpoint on cosplaying. Buckle up.
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[@TheNonEdibleCheese]

That guy's got some balls, tackling someone with a gun in hopes of protecting other people. Pretty heroic, honestly.

[@HolyCrossed]

And the cosplayer: "Erm, he wasn't being a hero, uhm, he was just trying to, erm, harm us for cosplaying" ☝🤓

[@EddieNoon]

My first thought, too. Saw someone he thought was in danger and tried to save them.

[@shelby5809]

nah. there's a fine line between heroic and dumb, and this dude is actually dumb.

[@Griffin050A1t]

He’s definitely heroic. He may not have saved anyone from a gun. But he showed us the narcissistic losers in the cosplay t

[@Akamaru015]

pretty dumb, the moment you tackle the gun if the perp has intent that gun is firing, and hitting some bystander.

[@jensen_z]

Also also, criminals and idiots have started painting their tips orange, orange tip means nothing to me.

[@keithsvenson568]

if you can eve SEE the tip. i'm thinking industry standard should be like... the first 6 inches of hte barrel be orange. or hell, go one further. learn to photoshop and make the whole gun orange than edit it to be the right color. but make it orange enough that you could not possibly miss. cop is going to miss that tip and empty a mag into you. 100 percent chance of this in my mind.

[@dukhntr21]

Nope, you point any gun at me and you won’t walk away!

[@kuroneko334]

​@@dukhntr21OK bud

[@normablake2748]

I never even thought about someone painting the tip of a weapon orange. Now, there’s something else to worry about, damn!

[@Akamaru015]

actually more crimes are committed with fake weapons with no orange tips than orange ones with. in north america there has been like 1 in the last 10 years with orange tips that were real. but they werent used in crimes but found with it. the fact of the matter is, its done the other way around because when you use a weapon as a criminal it is not for a shooting, its as a use of force, and if you paint the tip orange it is less effective. those who use weapons for shootings go out with the intent to kill and do not need to put the fear into their victims. your argument even in the minds of idiots is idiotic. I have only found a single instance in North america alone where a tip was painted orange and it was seized and not used. in the last 10 years

[@Juzokinnie]

As a cosplayer, that is unacceptable. You should NEVER EVER point something that looks like or could have any possibility as being perceived as a real weapon at people. And the guy who tackled him isn't at fault. If it looks like a real weapon people will treat it like one, this is common sense.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@KilianP-my3oe]

​@p-__ okay

[@EbroGame64]

@@p-__ Albert Einstein reply my guy

[@HolyCrossed]

cosplayers are real?!?!

[@Totally_unver1fi3d]

@@HolyCrossedy-yes they are real… The More You Knoooowwwww

[@SweetMikki]

ngl as a black person I was taught that toy guns=death so I never had to learn this lesson the hard way.

[@Littlebabyandersen]

Tamir Rice 😭

[@bigbrotherhouse7371]

Same. We were never allowed to even have nerf guns

[@Fires_Stuff]

EVEN WITH NERF GUNS, PLEASE DONT GO POINTING IT AGGRESSIVELY AT RANDOM PEOPLE IN PUBLIC, WITH THE RIGHT DEMEANOR YOU CAN BE PERCEIVED AS A THREAT, AND THE POLICE CAN BE CALLED.

[@Dear_Lola]

Not a spammer. IKR it’s still a gun. AND THEY R RANDOM PEOPLE WHO DONT DESERVE IT

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@feraltaco4783]

I feel like that's obvious but here we are. How could you not realize that this is ridiculously stupid?

[@MrGames9002]

Once when I was seven we were playing a nerf war at a park for a birthday with my friends, for some dumb reason we decided to jump this kid playing on the playground with our nerf pistols and the dad tackled two of us and someone else called the cops. Please do not point any sort of gun at anyone who doesn't know its not a real gun or any context to the situation

[@feraltaco4783]

​@@MrGames9002never point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot. My brother punched a dude in the face for pointing a BB gun at our cat. He was warned. He did it anyway. He suffered the consequences.

[@jammysimps6675]

For him to say QUOTE “I understand that gun violence is a very real thing in the US.” Is his que to stop what he’s doing, NEVER publish this video, AND rightfully apologize and NOT victimize himself. He KNEW what he was doing and now he’s gonna cry and say he’s oppressed and a target because he cosplays and was injured. Actual 5 year old mentality where it’s ALL about him, him, and him.

[@Temulon]

Notice too that from this guys point of view you aren't trying to prevent a serious injury or a death, you're trying to "be a hero". What a complete tool

[@EbroGame64]

@@Temulon Exactly, this guy is trying his damn hardest to victimize himself, and no one not even his fans are on his side. My mom always told me to own up my actions, this guy clearly dosent have a brain. We all know the truth and this guy does to, yet he acts like a baby with 0 brain cells and tries to say I'm the victim. People can be so stupid sometimes. It's unreal.

[@HotBaraDad666]

@@EbroGame64 Own up to your actions and lose everything? No thanks.

[@jaymemcginley4215]

@@HotBaraDad666 What are you saying? I thought owning up to your actions is the right thing to do

[@EbroGame64]

@@HotBaraDad666 not owning up to your actions gets you more time in prison buddy

[@travisbuschette8609]

Did no conversation take place after the tackle? This guy's entire argument is conjecture, which makes it sound like he got tackled, and then everyone just stood up and walked away without saying anything. You're telling me no words were exchanged so that both parties could explain what they were doing, what they were thinking, and clear up any misunderstandings? Not a chance. This guy is playing for sympathy and he knows it. No one in Minneapolis cares that much about cosplayers, and if they did, the passive aggression would kick in and they'd just walk in the opposite direction to not interact with them.

[@Tech-Adept6106]

this ⬆... The conventions I have been to require that you get your prop vetted, as in the cons security looks it over and if it's considered safe they will put a mark on it, like a orange ribbon... all though if you go outside the convention grounds where no one has any idea what's happening and wave your prop around, yeah expect to be tackled or have the cops called.

[@somebloke.]

Plus they were literally recording. They are trying to say they stopped recording right when he got tackled?

[@favoritemustard3542]

Show us & somebloke the tapes!!

[@lunaazul1569]

This is precisely what leads me to think that the video is fake. There was no such assault, there was no such tackle. Possibly it was a setup to gain views with an extremely bad argument.

[@GamerGavin04]

@@lunaazul1569lol nah the video is real. My friends used to be good friends with this guy and went to the same high school with him. Hes just looking for attention or something, playing victim.

[@goodh2o]

You could easily put an orange tip on a real gun, it wouldn't make it any less real.

[@drewgoin8849]

Also, colorblindness possibly could prevent others from seeing the small orange/red tip on a fake weapon. More to the point, I doubt a panicked individual is able to appraise the situation with 100% reliability when concerned that an active shooter situation is taking place.

[@rickyjanzen6684]

Yeah, I never got the orange tip thing. Granted, I have no knowledge of it ever happening, but nothing's stopping a criminal from painting their weapon tips orange in an attempt to bypass initial scrutiny. It kind of feels like the whole "stranger danger" mentality (hyper vigilance to one threat at the cost of completely overlooking other threats).

[@mommy2libras]

Or you could just see a guy pointing a gun and react to that without taking time to stand back and study the situation and notice the orange tip.

[@dom1091]

As both an avid gun "collector" and airsoft player, DO NOT POINT GUNS AT PEOPLE fake OR real! *since apparently some people are dumb enough to think that not pointing at ppl includes during an airsoft match or self defense situation; obviously those would be exceptions 😒

[@playernotfound9489]

but what if im in a duel

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@dom1091]

@playernotfound9489 disregard above, one shall stand one shall fall

[@CarsoDeck]

You must be a terrible airsoft player if you aren't pointing your gun at other people, lol

[@feraltaco4783]

That's the first fucking rule of firearms. These assholes are the reason people think gun owners are crazy.

[@A_NOOBYGUY]

cosplayer: points a GUN at someone also cosplayer: people want to harm us for cosplaying

[@HolyCrossed]

if you are already cosplaying like that you're obviously not the most aware or intelligent person.

[@ghettolicerx2]

It's like those people who put thier hands in your food and then get angry if people don't like that

[@nesamdoom]

@@ghettolicerx2 Those people can catch hands. If it's not polite enough for prison, don't do it in public.

[@Apextruebot]

someone ? wasn't the guy recording ?

[@William_Afton2002]

5:02 This is actually a good and fair point to make. If the by stander really tackled him because he hated cosplayers then why was he not tackling everyone else cosplaying? Why the only cosplayer holding an unknown fake gun at another person? I also realized this guy never directly addressed why he was tackled, just says you need a friend to look out for you to make sure no one jumps you.

[@thawingkarma233]

Also funny how the cameraman just allegedly stopped recording after the man tackled the guy. I may be overlooking this, but if I was recording something and somebody does something like…’that’, there is a high chance I’m going to *continue* recording the whole thing to have evidence if things become a legal issue. They either continued recording the encounter or just straight up decided to not include the ‘context’ of what actually happened *after* the man tackled him. Highly doubt the man just tackled him and walked away afterwards.

[@HolyCrossed]

Also if the guy wanted to "harm" them, he wouldn't just try to get the gun away from him, he'd beat him up

[@farmhouseonthemountain]

Panic mode? More like John Wick mode 😂

[@William_Afton2002]

How ironic is it for this guy to say you need to be self aware of others around you when he’s not self aware of others misunderstanding the fake gun.

[@waddle623]

​@@William_Afton2002 You can't read people's mind. They couldn't have known if it was fake or real. Especially since some criminals paint their real guns to look fake.

[@226amw]

Rules for conventions usually are “If it looks like it can be a weapon, it might be a weapon.” One year my husband had a cane for his Tuxedo Mask cosplay, and because the top of the cane had a heavy skull on it, it got classified as a weapon so we had to tag it. If the cosplays have fake guns, and is part of the costume, you can have them so long as you only have them out for photo shots (at least that’s what I’ve experienced in conventions) If the guy was filming outside the con, then people who have no idea the convention is going on, then the person who attacked probably thought it was a weapon orange tip or not. A lot has happened with shootings, and some people are pretty jumpy.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@turboshazed7370]

Facts

[@camharkness]

I legit walked in with a wooden sword once for my cosplay of the shin megami tensei 1 protagonist and I still had to tag it. Like, I honestly think they just tag everything.

[@msjkramey]

​@camharkness you can hurt someone pretty badly with a wooden sword, you know. That's just a club that's shaped like something else

[@CleetusDaFetus]

​@@camharkness you can mess someone up with a wooden sword lol

[@artCharles]

While I'd say it's a terrible idea to tackle a person you believe to have a loaded gun, walking around in public with a fake gun, especially while acting like you're going to use it, is stupid.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@geekgirl616]

Why is that a terrible idea if you are confident you can actually succeed at neutralizing the threat you absolutely should

[@artCharles]

@@geekgirl616 I just mean that it's risky, since the gun could go off while you're tackling them.

[@camharkness]

​@@geekgirl616the gun can go off while you're tackling them, they can just shoot you, like..... It's a really risky move to do.

[@stevenunyabidness]

beats the hell out of doing nothing.

[@CrayonEater5000]

Honestly, kudos to the guy who tackled him. He’s got some balls lol

[@kenzieuchiha1191]

Doesn't matter if it was a toy, you don't point guns at people and expect them not to react negatively. Him immediately assuming the guy didn't like cosplayers is just him refusing to take any accountability and its just pathetic.

[@yourmaninlondoncollecting5749]

7:00 This guy clearly lives too much in a "Cosplay" mindset. He COULD have been seriously hurt or even Shot. A young idiot with too much time on his hands.....

[@bchin4005]

Even in this comment section there's plenty who are falling prey to the "curse of knowledge" that August mentions. Guess media literacy is a dying art and they just get outraged that other people just might not be into or know about the same things they do. It would be the same as me saying "I know how to weld, therefore so should everyone else know everything I know about metalworking." 🤦‍♂️

[@Mama_Monomi]

Also Leon (the character there cosplaying) outfit if fairly casual looking so it might not even look like a costume to someone who hasn't seen Leon Kennedy before. So hypothetically from the strangers perspective he saw some person in casual clothes take out a gun at a place with alot of people in it which is honestly a pretty brave reaction as long as he wasn't genuinely harming the person in the video.

[@Doub1eSpark]

Exactly. Someone could probably get away with cosplaying something like Widowmaker or Xigbar and get away with pointing the prop around because it would be obvious they're in costume, but if you're cosplaying a character with a realistic outfit then expect to be treated as just a dude by passersby who don't know the fandom. Not that I would recommend any cosplayer wave a prop around carelessly, but the risk is way less in their case.

[@HolyCrossed]

@@Doub1eSpark who?

[@camharkness]

​@@HolyCrossed Widowmaker is a character from overwatch, her rifle looks extremely unrealistic, xigbar is a character from kingdom hearts, he's extremely anime looking and the guns he has looks extremely unrealistic.

[@ryanaertel]

My problem with the orange tip thing is that it would be EXTREMELY easy to add an orange tip onto a real firearm. It is never going to be safe to assume a firearm is fake just because it has an orange tip, even if you know that is what it should mean.

[@HolyCrossed]

Especially with the kids nowadays, they don't care about anything and are generally not as smart

[@nesamdoom]

bright orange electrical tape is like a buck or two. I sure the fuck won't think a bit of orange means there's no danger.

[@RVNGxC7]

Well 1 he was filming so…. 2 he was clearly dressed up as a resident evil character… 3 should we just assume all props are weapons cause by that logic anyone can spray paint a rifle to look like a nerf..

[@arospec2712]

@@RVNGxC7 Yeah its really easy to paint a gun to look like a nerf gun. Maybe you aren't from a country or city with tons of gun violence, but if I saw a grown man waving around a "nerf gun" I would gtfo. Also not everyone knows what resident evil is. I know what cosplay is but I had no clue he was dressed as a resident evil character. If I saw him in public just walking around I wouldn't know either. Bro clearly did not watch the video at all

[@ryanaertel]

@@RVNGxC7 your first 2 points are already covered in detail by the video, as for the third point though, why wouldn't I assume that anything that resembles a firearm is in fact, a firearm? Just painting a gun will not make it look like a nerf gun to anyone that actually knows the difference, and if someone doesn't know the difference they're just going to think it's a real firearm, because there's literally no reason not to think that.

[@skye4591]

old guy: clearly and obviously slaps gun and when it doesn't come loose.. continues to hold it while bringing the cosplayer down and not causing the cosplayer any physical trauma. cosplayer: omg he hates cosplayers!!

[@IStealButterdToast]

No matter what it will ALWAYS be on them and not the old man, he was definitely unaware of the convention, saw someone holding theirs hands up, and saw a guy that looked like he had them at gunpoint, he was right to react like that, trying to save the cameraman thinking there was an actual threat

[@Misto_deVito6009]

I love how he specifies that he was "across the street" from it. That'll *totally* help you with your argument

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@kyekruchoski1457]

yeah that just hurts his argument. how did you not see my orange tip from that far away

[@Nemy_Pred]

I am staff at a ‘con & a few years ago. We had a male cosplayer, come to our show. They were a GIJoe character (I can’t recall which one), they used a replica gun with no orange tip & it looked real (even up close). A guest at the hotel (not even a ‘con goer), called the cops & they showed up guns drawn. They cuffed him & did what they need too. He was released, but he was trespassed from the entire hotel & convention grounds. The cops kept saying, they “couldn’t believe how stupid he was”. Dude, to this day. Swears he did nothing wrong & the guest & hotel “over reacted”. SMH.

[@Sailor1088]

Pretty sure i know which con this was but not gonna put em on blast tho...

[@A_HUMAN_YT]

What country? And also what kind of weapon did it resemble?

[@NobodyInParticular001]

@@A_HUMAN_YT A gun (which was stated in the comment) and by the looks of it either Canada (pfp) or the US.

[@Nemy_Pred]

@@NobodyInParticular001 correct.

[@huntsman9316]

Someone called the cops at a cosplay show cause they saw a weapon? Did the cosplayer point it at someone? We're they being crazy with the weapon? or did this dude just see an obviously dressed-up person in a sea of dressed-up people who also have weapons and decide that dude was the one to arrest? Just a bit confusing

[@catnoir1333]

From the sounds of it the 50 year old guy came from behind. I'm going to bet full well from that angle he couldn't see the orange tip on the gun and honestly thought someone was going to get hurt. If he was just trying to hurt a cosplayer he would have most likely done more damage than just tackling him trying to knock away the gun.

[@nesamdoom]

His focus was def on neutralizing a perceived threat. not bullying some cosplayer. I got a beer at any bar for that dude.

[@catnoir1333]

@@nesamdoom exactly dude was willing to save lives at the risk of his own. Even if it was a mistake it shows he was a good guy.

[@LunaryxDiarmait]

This guy wasn't using his brain at all.

[@HolyCrossed]

Fr, he was trying to sound smart but he's goofy

[@johnnyknadler1157]

It’s not like it was a nerf gun IT WAS A LITERAL PROP GUN

[@bchin4005]

You're being awfully generous assuming he has one. With a haircut like Jack Dogherty, I doubt there's much under it.

[@LunaryxDiarmait]

@@bchin4005 Fair point.

[@Nintenblox]

One time at my school: some people started using an app where you point your phone like a gun and it also makes the sounds, it was serious when teachers found out

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@HolyCrossed]

One of my classmates had something similar, you hold the phone like a handle and when you whack it, it makes a whip sound 💀 also he did have the gun thing but he had his volume low.

[@meshuggahlad7]

Move the fuck around. You dont have content​@OFFICERCOMMANDOTHYGREAT

[@Casinogirl56]

In a lot of places where concealed carry is a thing, this right here is a good way to get yourself unalived. Or maybe someone thinks your "obviously a prop" is a real weapon and calls the police. They show up. Best case scenario there is someone goes to jail. Worst case? Do I really need to spell that out? Do better and stop acting like a victim.

[@nicholasmolnar8312]

Those were pretty nice costumes but a hyper realistic gun with no orange cap on it in public is pushing it. (It does have an orange cap. Just tine too see) and if the august guy here is correct on loctation right in front of a church is second worse just behind a school and just ahead of a concert. Its illegal as far as i know to take the orange tip off but we've all done if we owned one. Like a tech9 made out of metal bb gun and modified it that I owned.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@iamsparta7436]

You might want to watch the video before commenting

[@ExtinctCanadian]

it has an orange cap tho, and its pretty obvious.

[@user-ds7gs2ol4q]

Get it to 10k chat

[@nicholasmolnar8312]

​@@iamsparta7436naw I like to throw my 2 pennies in before seeing it. I thought the 5 sec clip was good enough.

[@theyquixoty]

like i know it doesnt look realistic if you see it in detail, but hell if i was walking up that street and glanced up without taking in the resident evil cosplay aspect all i wouldve seen is gun-shaped object and ofc my brain will go to gun-shaped object = gun, thats how your brain is supposed to work to protect you

[@HolyCrossed]

instincts I guess

[@laurelrhodes744]

As a frequent con attendee, conventions are held in PUBLIC AREAS! Outside the con is filled with non attendees who don’t know if your weapon is real or paper mache. This guy is stupid if he thinks everyone around him was aware he was cosplaying.

[@diamondsenu1550]

The Internet is a weird place its like being in a another domention

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@Michael-lm2yg]

I'm actually from another dimension. And I've also been in some weird ones!

[@livie4lifeslayyas]

These replies prove it

[@kuroneko334]

Dimension*

[@ziphy_6471]

Dimension*

[@liosns]

remember kids if you are gonna have cosplay that has a fake gun make it orange or red if you are in public or as fake as possible

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@futuristicbus61]

God the bot replies are way too much

[@dukhntr21]

Don’t matter to me. You point a gun at me, you won’t walk away. Period!

[@SereneIceDragon]

Even with the fake tip, just...don't walk around in public with it visible, and definitely don't point it around. Do that in the con center for pics and videos, not on a public street.

[@Dizzytears]

@@dukhntr21 schizo

[@thepalaceworm]

Mr. Duck, I still refer, sort of out of need to give immediate context to the situation, in any case, I call The Aurora Colorado shooter The Batman Shooter. One of the main reasons that he was able to do as much damage as he did was because he had a costume on that looked, to the people in the theater, kind of what one of Bane's henchmen would have worn. When he started shooting, there were some people who thought, "It was part of the show." Now ALL theaters have banned costumes. Granted, if a seven year old dressed like Cat Woman showed up, we might not have a problem with it. But if you dress like The Joker or God Forbid dress like The Punisher, you're just ASKING for trouble. The fact that this guy is trying to make this out to be some kind of Hate Crime is almost offensive if it weren't so stupid. He's old enough to remember The Batman Shooter. Apparently not old enough to have learned anything from that tragedy.

[@Thecherrybro07]

My opinion: Only point it if you know for SURE it's a cosplayer and if they're on board with it. Basically, just ask for permission before you go into character and go all Yosemite Sam. Or, JUST DON'T POINT GUNS AT PEOPLE PERIOD. It's not rocket science. Also, if you are gonna point guns, at least wait 'till you're inside of the convention with other cosplayers, not outside where random unknowing people can see a guy point a gun at a person.

[@keithsvenson568]

hold on.... was the target NOT aware that it was fake? HOW IS THIS MAN STILL ALIVE?!

[@rickyjanzen6684]

​@@keithsvenson568They were--looked like they were pointing at the camera operator. Still, was a realistic prop in a public area (in front of a church). It had a tiny orange tip, which literally means nothing when someone's life may be in danger. If it looks like a gun, you can reasonably assume it's a gun--orange paint isn't some magic safety plug.

[@xMaugrex]

@@keithsvenson568 Nah I think they misunderstood the situation and thought he was pointing the gun at the guy that tackled him, and not the camera person who was 100% aware.

[@eddieshaffer-qo5cd]

bro imagine actually thinking that

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@BiscuitisCool]

⁠@OFFICERCOMMANDOTHYGREATno it isn’t

[@BiscuitisCool]

@@p-__no

[@NeuroSurge]

Yeeeaaahh...idk how anyone could come to the immediate conclusion that the person attacking was taking offense to the cosplaying. Like the guy saw a gun & was trying his best to save someone he thought was in serious danger. You're in America! Public shootings genuinely happen A LOT unfortunately!

[@JerseyWolf]

I'd like to see him try and argue his side in court.

[@HolyCrossed]

"Your honor, all I did was point a fake gun at random people in public, it's obviously fake you can see the tiny orange tip, and the cosplay convention that everyone obviously knows was happening, was only like a couple blocks away!"

[@youssefmohamed8990]

@@HolyCrossed I'd like to correct that. "Your honor, all I did was point a fake gun at my camera man in public, it's obviously fake and no one else was around us other than my friend that was watching our stuff and my camera man!" I'm not tryna justify the actual act but this specific scenario is confusing

[@rickyjanzen6684]

​@@youssefmohamed8990Define "obviously fake". Orange paint is not the safety measure so many people here think it is. And how would someone know it was "their" cameraman. People have phones out all the time. Also, could very easily have looked like a robbery and the camera person was in the process of handing over their phone. It would be a ridiculous argument in any court and this kid would be told to get out and stop acting stupid in public (at the very least).

[@youssefmohamed8990]

@@rickyjanzen6684 solid point

[@MagicOfWar]

I would really love to see even the judges reaction during the whole thing if he did take it to court. Might actually be interesting to watch.

[@Stealth86651]

It's common sense to keep the gun visible in the cosplay center, otherwise keep it in a bag, if it was even allowed. This dude was being an idiot having it out and running around in public.

[@camharkness]

Legit, kids have been shot in parks while playing with toy guns, toy guns that don't even look real, there are mountains of stories of kids even being shot by police because the police thought the toy gun was real (and then you find out the toy was this like, bright yellow giant revolver that looks like plastic). So, it really should just be common sense to just not do this.

[@thestraydog]

And he honestly got really REALLY lucky that an officer wasn't the person to notice the prop. They would have been way less gentle with them, and that's putting it lightly...

[@user-wt1fn5gb1v]

Yes, I believe the reason nerf guns are so bright and colorful is because one kid got shot and killed by police for doing something very similiar to this guy. He was young, but looked a-lot older, and the toy guns used to look realistic if I remember right. :( Oh, also just so you know that police officer wasn't just a monster or anything, he quit after this and felt guilty for the rest of his life.

[@Doub1eSpark]

As someone who's cosplayed before (just once as a KH character), you never just wave around a prop weapon in public like that. Even if it's as ridiculous as a Keyblade it could get mistaken for a real weapon if someone sees it at a distance and goes immediately into fight or flight. I couldn't imagine waving around a really cheesy fake blade, let alone a realistic looking gun prop. Especially if your cosplay isn't too cartoony, or could be mistaken for a normal outfit.

[@johnnyknadler1157]

I mean I don’t know how you would mistake a key blade as a real weapon

[@AndrewJackson7th]

1. the gun clearly has a orange tip on the front, 2. the camera is clearly visible

[@johnnyknadler1157]

@@AndrewJackson7th Criminals disguise their guns to look like toys/props and the orange tip could be difficult to see and/or the guy could have reacted due to PTSD or the adrenaline kicking in

[@kairi1948]

soooo off topic but i was named after the KH character Kairi :))

[@Doub1eSpark]

@@kairi1948 neat! Kairi's one of my favorites :3

[@AgentMercer]

-nose ring -puffy-top haircut Typical tiktok smoothbrain

[@Weirdyness]

In my opinion, I feel like everyone involved are all misunderstood but no one is in the wrong. The guy that tackled the cosplayer saw someone pointing a gun and took action. We definitely need more people with that amount of heroism, however, he needs to work on analyzing before taking action. If you see someone dressed like that and moving like that, he should’ve put two and two together and realized it was fake. No real shooter is going to walk and point a gun like he’s an NPC in a video game. Also, there’s clearly a person recording him. The guy shouldn’t get any hate, he just acted on instinct. Now, for the cosplayer, he didn’t do anything wrong. He was just trying to record a quick video for social media. His advice is good too, if you know you’re going to make a video with props like that, you should make sure you have people to stop others and explain it’s fake. However, he definitely should’ve done it way closer to the convention. Also, I agree with August, he is delusional to think he got tackled for being a cosplayer.

[@alexisdogbo7958]

0:29 that’s what it’s like talking to family members honestly😂

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@BibboRacing96]

​@@p-__but your words aren't

[@MeowingCat835]

​@@BibboRacing96 good roast 😂

[@deathringer1003]

When i was a little kid,i thought con was short for convict,same for my grandfather who at the time was in his late 60's

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@normalplayer7]

dang

[@Zombie_Trooper]

And this, friends, is why there are actual RULES regarding filming in public. Sure, most people can take out a camera and do whatever in public, but when you start having props and more than 2 people involved, it legally enters the territory of a production and requires permits in most places...for this very reason. Most cops won't care, especially if its a bunch of dumb kids, but the moment you start being so negligent, it's a whole different issue. It makes me crazy how braindead people can be.

[@HolyCrossed]

Yeah, you shouldn't see people walking around pointing guns are playing with a sword because some things can happen.

[@emmastrange5557]

This is why film makers get permits where they block of the street with signs saying "filming in progress" (or something along those lines. You can't just do what ever you want and assume everyone around you knows what it is you're doing.

[@bchin4005]

Precisely. These kids think the entire world is their personal playground and everyone else should be beholden to their whims. The entitlement is strong. To use "self awareness" in his argument (when he actually meant situational awareness) and be completely lacking in it just shows how up his own ass he is. They just want to be victims and have no accountability for their actions.

[@goji-chan1742]

I see a lot of people in this comment section saying he should point the gun at someone but my only issue with that argument is that mainly the fake gun was pointed more at the camera more than anyone else plus it should be obvious it wasn’t a real situation cause when you see three people one camera person and the two for the video doing actions like a video game character in front of the camera my instincts don’t tell me that’s a real gun tackle the person I do get why people are on edge we live in a chaotic day n age anymore but always double assess the situation cause you can cause more trouble then help a situation

[@Arialine123]

Nowadays everyone is looking for any reason to snap it seems... this guy clearly saw the opportunity to attack someone justifiably and took it. The kids just lucky he wasn't one of those gun nuts that conceal carry just for a moment like this to occur, i have no doubt he would have been shot and the person would walk away with no reprecaution due to the kid having the obviously fake gun.. he was walking toward a guy filming him in some kinda recon mission style.. no mistake just a pos taking his moment to release some rage

[@EmilyDamen]

To asume its a hate crime against cosplayers is ridiculous. The guy was probably scared it was a real gun

[@MisuzuPM]

I go to this convention and we've always been discouraged from bringing prop weapons into the public areas outside the con. Man, this is so embarrassing.

[@cj_sings]

As someone who's used a fake weapon for cosplay (a six-foot-tall scythe, I went as Maka Albarn), you gotta be careful with any prop weapon. Even something that's obviously fake.

[@skfromda9156]

Imma side with him on this one. 1. He's outside a convention. 2 he is in a cosplay outfit. 3. No one was screaming or yelling for help. So I do feel like the guy who grabbed him was in the wrong

[@skfromda9156]

Don't agree with all he was saying but I do think he is the victim here

[@vintagestealth8802]

A lot of toy firearms are very close to what a real one looks like even with the orange tip on the barrel, he’s lucky a cop wasn’t around and not a random pedestrian. Also biggest victim card I’ve ever seen. Edit: If I’m standing a good distance away I would not have seen that the pistol was a prop. It is not blatantly obvious.

[@HolyCrossed]

AND criminals paint or attach orange tips on their guns.

[@bartholomewwindow743]

another case where common sense isn’t that common here… obviously never walk around with anything that merely resembles a weapon because it can and will be easily mistaken as a real weapon

[@Jenn-ie5vf]

I had no idea what an orange tip meant until about a month ago so no, everyone doesn't know this info

[@fabulous_foe157]

Genuinely want to know why the guy who tackled the cosplayer didn't see the camera and the other cosplayer??? Wouldn't there be context clues??? I'm not defending him but I'm not saying the guy who tackled is completely in the right. There's always the question of what happened after the camera turned off. Did he apologize for acting on instinct because the cosplayer explained everything afterwards or was the cosplayer getting defensive and verbally fight with the guy who tackled him??? Also the guy who was recording didn't have his hands up like someone would when having a gun pointed at them. Reacting quickly could mean you would miss that but holding a phone to your face is noticably different from putting your hands in the air

[@opalstorm4699]

He is so lucky a cop didn’t see him, with how trigger happy they are

[@havanowoncheese]

He was pointing a fake gun at people in public. I have no pity for him.

[@HUX_international]

I actually went to a convention not too long ago and some guy was dressed up as ghost from CoD, he had a pretty realistic SMG. It had stickers on it but still, they also had a little table by each entrance where they check fake weapons to see if they’re safe or not. But this guy was still an idiot in thinking he could point guns at people.

[@A_Fabulous_Killjoy]

Man, people in Tik Tok be losing it 💀

[@Mr.Rogers91]

Lmfao he thinks the guy was "offended" by a "firearm" ? Its like he has never heard of people being shot for having fake guns, phones, something in their hand that resembles a gun.

[@stupidmonkey151]

Yeah, I have no idea how this cosplayer and his viewers come to any conclusion other than this man thought it was a real gun. The very first move to swat the gun out of his hand is a dead give away. If he doesn't realize he shouldn't be this careless, this could happen again. I hope it's this inconsequential if it does. You never know who is actually armed, and I'm sorry, but Minneapolis might be the last place I'd want to rely on police to sort out a situation like this.

[@artCharles]

Nah, he swatted the gun out of his hand because he passionately hates cosplayers, obviously. /s

[@stupidmonkey151]

@@artCharles Lol right?

[@bchin4005]

The level of cognitive dissonance in gen z is disturbing.

[@scoclego6040]

This man played the victim card so damn fast. Idk if yugi could even have gotten a card that fast.

[@reddinareddika3624]

I mean I believe that to perceive a threat in that case was probably strange. The guys were clearly filming and if none of the guys around him was terrified of even just worried, there is no way the man thought he was shooting for real. Maybe he just thought it was a real gun and they were fooling around with something dangerous so decided to stop them and maybe lecture them.

[@turbotreehouse9780]

Yeah, if someone points something that looks remotely like a firearm at you, they have forfeited the right to not have their ass kicked.

[@maddiet1717]

I live downtown in a somewhat larger city and I literally NEVER know what conventions are in town so to assume that guy knew a con was going on is so insane

[@qquack1950]

6:24 how to get arrested in America 101 💀💀

[@DaSushiMan-]

idk dude if its being recorded its gonna be very obvious that its being recorded- this dude was walking towards a camera, its not like the guns being pointed at anyone, and his walking stance in any other context than cosplay rly makes no fuckin sense cause hes in the middle of nowhere why is he like stealth walking lmaoo i think tackling is a pretty crazy way to react when there's a lot of factors that can pretty clearly show that this is fake

[@deweyr_fisher]

he didn’t tackle him first thing, though. he tried to smack the gun out of his hand and when that didn’t work the older gentleman tackled him to neutralize the threat

[@couchpotato7628]

To me it was obvious the gun wasn’t real. He was pointing a gun with a cameraman down the barrel. Obviously the gun was fake or there wouldn’t be a guy in front of him. He was walking like in a video game and definitely seemed fake not to mention to costume. I don’t even know what he was dressing as but I know it was fake and not special forces. What shooter is gonna be dressed like he was? But he should definitely not have a gun and pointing it in general. I have to agree with him with expecting people to do things you wouldn’t expect them to do. I would’ve expected someone to react the same to his gun if I was him tbh

[@CoNmaN0626]

He was dressing as Leon from Resident Evil, and the girl in the red dress is Ada Wong. But yeah, it's very obviously fake when there's a cameraman walking with you

[@jcosmozd]

I’m a cosplayer, typically if I have a costume with prop weapons I only take them out for pictures AT A CONVENTION or in a private, not public setting. One of my favorite costumes is Big Boss from Metal Gear Solid, so typically I have a lotta prop pistols and knives, typically in their holsters. Normally they’re in holsters or not on my person at all because hey, Military man with gun can be kinda scary looking! If you’re a cosplayer make sure you only brandish props like that in private, or at a con where everybody else is doing it.

[@kzilla3]

Step one: Delete Tiktok Step two: Live healthy and normal

[@ryanmitchell6913]

Exactly

[@Koa04-24]

For every like August gets one free session of therapy

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@LadyVenus125]

Jesus Christ, so many bots here.

[@Soemguywhoask]

@OFFICERCOMMANDOTHYGREATPOV: you’re so insecure you needed to do that

[@JRyder_Gaming]

@OFFICERCOMMANDOTHYGREATno one cares

[@Soemguywhoask]

@OFFICERCOMMANDOTHYGREATanyway, enjoy getting reported

[@theden9123]

"he hurt me because i was in a cosplay" i have never seen a person that despises cosplay so much that they will actively hurt people in cosplay i have however seen people charge at people threatening others with guns

[@MSB-sn1md]

1) I couldn’t tell there was an orange tip while watching the first time which means it isn’t obvious enough to not get shot or hurt 2) We live in the United States that has a pretty extreme gun culture and has a mass shooting literally everyday. You can’t brandish what looks like a gun and run around like that and not get attacked in the US because people are genuinely afraid

[@alexandriaa44]

No he might not know what a comic con is but he should definitely know what a camera is… 😅 I mean it’s super obvious with the outfits & camera man that they’re filming something! That man had no right to straight up hit the guy..

[@IIMiikexDII]

People keep saying "he had no right". The law would 100% be on his side lol

[@MoonyScar616]

August is the best duck in the universe. Videos are funnier than other commentary videos I’ve seen. All in all you’re an amazing content creator. Keep it up!

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@michaelderner1995]

People sometimes paint real guns to look like toy guns, so the orange tip becomes pretty irrelevant.

[@fanafelgminecraft5789]

im colorblind so that orange tip would be way harder for me to spot and if im not paying full attetion its very easy to mistake for a real gun

[@michaelderner1995]

I’m also color blind so I feel that.

[@Yumimania_japan]

That guy had good intentions He thought there was a threat and tried to protect people by tackling him so heroic

[@TheRealBuckBumble]

tbh it looks like he is point it at the camera man, and it clearly looks like they are filming something, esp with the costumes, and im sure there are a bunch of other ppl in costumes around as well, so with just the video itself, gonna have to say the person that tackled him was for sure out of line. not only that but he filmed it away from the convention. i don't think he deserved to be tackled, and the person that did tackle clearly was not observant, nor was he paying attention to his surroundings. so long as the "weapon" takes into account at the v least an orange tip, the worst that will happen to this guy will be the gun being taken away, the other guy will prolly face assault charges.

[@TheRealBuckBumble]

add to this: the point the guy makes in the video IS wrong, lol

[@adriantv4993]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@fanafelgminecraft5789]

lemme just copy paste a comment not everyone just looks at them and understands its cosplay and adrenaline and the panic wont make it easier to spot its very easy when in a panic to miss the small details also when you arent paying full attention and you see a gun you think is a real gun ofc your going to act before you know you get shot or worse you really should understand what happens when a person thinks they are in a life or death setuation your body doesnt take that extra 10 sec to fully understand the setuation it just acts

[@VentiStan]

People are getting mad at this guy, but I don’t get it. The other guy should’ve been able to see that the other guy was filming, I’m sure. I mean, there was a guy just stood off to the side, a guy very obviously walking in an “Oh I’m doing something for film” and a guy walking backwards with a phone in his hands, probably not looking very scared. Sure, believing that the guy attacked him because he’s a cosplayer is stupid, but I still think it would’ve been obvious. Cosplayers use props like that all the time, and the more realistic they can make the cosplay, the better.

[@WPE2024]

I think August is tired of both parties being in the wrong so he decided to ignore that part and since most his subscribers don't have the ability to disagree with him they all are positive

[@VentiStan]

@@WPE2024 Yeah, a lot of his viewers seem to share his views on anything and everything In a video a couple weeks ago, he said that people with a certain fetish are sick and need help, and I couldn’t find a single comment bringing him up on that-

[@WPE2024]

@@VentiStan which video was that?

[@VentiStan]

@@WPE2024 The recent dog girl one The woman said about her pooping in the garden (you know, ‘cause she’s a dog) and August took that as an opportunity to go off about how people with ‘scat’ kinks deserve to be shamed and yada yada. It surprised me that literally no one mentioned it at all-

[@WPE2024]

@@VentiStan because being aroused by feces isn't normal and should be treated like a mental illness??? You shouldn't be bullied for it obviously but it shouldn't be accepted as normal

[@Phoenixillusion18]

Imagine thinking you are in the right for pointing a real looking gun in a place where gun violence is an actual issue.

[@TerminalM193]

I carry everywhere I go.... If this dummy pointed his little prop gun literally at anyone carrying then he's going to suffer the consequences.

[@deadinscyde]

Maybe since I'm not American I can't really relate to the gun violence thing, but... In order to make a TikTok, someone has to be filming. Also there was his friend behind him. Not to mention his outfit wasn't that of someone that would try to shoot at anyone in the middle of the day, AND they were next to a cosplay convention. So how the fuck did this happen? Even if all the "I've been attacked because the guy hates cosplayers" argument is false, how can someone be so dumb and out of touch with reality to attack someone when the guy filming the TikTok and the person behind didn't react to him first? And if you're response is "well, it's the USA, anyone can have a gun and point it at someone, it could've been a real gun!" then maybe it's time to change something. Everytime there is a gun involved it seems you like to point the blame on literally anyone or anything except the easy access to guns, which is honestly a hundred times dumber that anything the cosplayer has to say

[@mvxicatt]

its a new situation every day 😭

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@buddycal1]

I genuinely think you have the best take on this. While his points shouldn't be thrown out wholesale, they require a lot of assumptions, while your read on the situation requires assumptions that take much less of a stretch.

[@gemesis23]

I can tell you this; if a gun was pointed at me, I don't think I'd be standing there, taking time to figure out if it is real or not. I'm going to protect myself.

[@oterman5788]

I agree with the cosplayer in this situation 1. he was following the rules of conversion centers about fack/prop firearms 2. he wasn't that far from the conversion center (this ment there would have bin others that had dressed up of the event) 3. If the person had an issue with him waving a prop gun around than why didn't they ask him to stop in stead of assaulting him

[@Lonewolfprime.]

That’s because you’re not looking at it from the outside: it’s called empathy, putting yourself in the person’s shoes. Let’s see what the stranger saw: 1. He saw a guy who looks casually dressed up, pointing what looks to be a live firearm. The cosplayer wasn’t following any “rules”, if he did, he wouldn’t be waving around an item that could be perceived as real in public that’s clearly a block away from the intended area. It is always stated to wait until you’re inside to do that sh!t for photos. The only rule he followed was having a small orange mark that’s barely able to be seen. Guess what also? Not everyone is gonna know what an orange tip means. 2. You only have seconds to react/ascertain the perceived threat. Most likely this was an obvious fight or flight moment for the person. I shouldn’t have to explain this sh!t as it’s common sense to disarm the threat as soon as possible. You don’t have the time to ask the person to stop if you think sh!t looks real. 3. If he really hated cosplayers, why didn’t he attack anyone else there? Why only attempt to disarm the guy with a prop gun that looks completely like a real situation where mass shootings take place? Why didn’t he continue to beat him down when he had him on the ground? I’ll tell you what happened: it was a misunderstanding, the guy most likely apologized for the tackle, and that’s why he didn’t include that in the video. To fool people and make this selfless act look like an attack. I’m sorry, but this man did what he felt was right: he felt threatened and thought he saw a threat.

[@BiscuitisCool]

If you see someone pointing a gun at an individual you DONT STOP TO ASK

[@BiscuitisCool]

@@Lonewolfprime.*sympathy

[@Mr.D395]

Imagine arguing in tik tok☠️☠️

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@Mr.D395]

@OFFICERCOMMANDOTHYGREATshut up

[@jessifer23f]

on tik tok*

[@Mr.D395]

@@jessifer23f Hi (excuse me for my bad English language, I will certainly try harder next time)

[@fillman86]

I had a similar thing happen to my group in film school. The solution was no more gun related videos, and all people not in front of the cameras had to wear high viz vests with "film crew" written on them

[@Aletotoa]

I was thinking about how ridiculous this all is, and how being in front of a convention should be enough for a passerby to know it's not a real gun. Then it finally hit me, I can't relate to this, because my country doesn't have a lot of gun violence. If I see a person walking around with a gun, it's most likely going to be a fake gun. So I'm wondering if the positive responses he's getting on his account are from people from other countries who just don't have the same instinctual reaction.

[@madgirl617]

Bruhh… I’m not a cosplayer, but as a viewer of the video… it seems very obvious that they are cosplaying and creating a fake video… there is a whole camera man and they are dressed in exaggerated clothing and the guy holding the gun wasn’t even facing the camera man. He was looking side to side. And the girl was walking to a beat… I think unless you’re stupid, oblivious, or ig a boomer this should appear very obviously fake😑😑☝️🤷‍♀️

[@Sliver_Stream]

Another terrible argument. Covered by our favorite duck. Thanks August:)

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@Cat_Lover550]

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[@Sliver_Stream]

@@p-__ what😭

[@alwaysamongdragons7354]

I once had a cap gun. It was stylized as a civil war musket as it was sold at a gift shop at a re-enactment battle as a toy. It looked, again, like a musket. It had an orange cap. My dad still made absolutely _certain_ to sit me down and say he didn't want me to ever be playing with it outside pointing it at people and especially not to remove the orange plastic cap. He made me, rightly, understand that everyone else in the world has zero reason to believe it is not real. The orange cap means little. There isn't much stopping people from putting it on a real gun after all.

[@LadyDragonbane]

The "because I'm a cosplayer" argument is weird and I also think the other guy overreacted as it seems obvious the group was filming. But I don't live in an area where gun violence is a common thing and I know when there is a con happening so I'd be more likely to reach any conclusion before an actual shooting.

[@Misa-Aname]

that guy just shortened my lifespan

[@ssj2dougie]

There was a post by the girl as well, and added more context. The guy had been standing to the side and saw them all talking to each other and knew they were filming. He waited until he was beside him, then the thing he threw in his face was the girl's garter that she tossed in an earlier clip they filmed. So it wasn't like he came in and thought the camera guy was scared.

[@HolyCrossed]

why didn't bro say that? He sounded so stupid trying to prove a point that didn't make any sense with the context given. Also idk if there is proof to what she said

[@ssj2dougie]

@@HolyCrossed Completely agree, at face value all he presented made no sense and seemed sketch.

[@Little-Buster]

That guy who attacked the "cosplayer" should make his own video to explain his pov.

[@lucagerulat307]

I would say there is some nuance to this situation in that there are countries with stricter gun laws where people would always assume that a gun is not real. I remember a couple years ago in Hungary I saw some teenagers playing with pretty realistic fake guns(airsoft or something) in a mall and nobody cared. So while I would never blame the man for overreacting or "hating cosplayers" this is very much a product of the USA's gun culture and complete disregard for common sense.

[@jolteon345]

My take on the video is that both sides were stupid. It was stupid of the Cosplayer to go pointing the prop gun towards other people even though it was for a TikTok, the convention is somewhat nearby but at the same time it's somewhat out of the way. However, at the same time, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU TACKLE A RANDOM PERSON WHO APPEARS TO HOLD A GUN? That's asking for an injury at best. The guy is lucky that A) the gun was a prop and B) if it was real, that the person was in a Cosplay/convention mindset instead of just some lunatic.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than August’s farts 💨

[@CatManReal]

The guy is 100% in the wrong, but still I feel like it would be pretty easy to not see him as a threat. For one thing, the convention makes it somewhat obvious (Edit: This is a rather weak argument but I never intended it to be the main one and I should have made it clear. Several people have pointed out that not everyone will know about the convention and that's absolutely true). Second, the orange tip on the gun is usually a pretty good indicator it's fake. Finally, the camera man. If someone is being held at gunpoint they aren't going to record it and slowly walk backwards, they're going to have their hands up and be asking to not get shot. I believe the guy is absolutely in the wrong, but even then attacking him isn't the best move without first observing the situation a bit more.

[@rena_sukii]

So both are equally wrong in this regard?

[@CatManReal]

@@rena_sukii No not at all. The guy with the fake gun is certainly more in the wrong, but the other guy shouldn't have instantly jumped to conclusions and attacked.

[@rena_sukii]

@@CatManReal "more in the wrong" so both have their own portion of wrong?

[@CatManReal]

@@rena_sukii Yes. I don't quite see what's confusing here.

[@rena_sukii]

@@CatManReal your original comment says the Leon cosplayer is "100% on the wrong", implying that the man who tackled him has nothing to blame on

[@toddtaylor6506]

Boggles the mind that in 2024 someone would think pointing a gun at someone in public was a smart thing to do as a "joke". How to not end up like this idiot? How about don't think that a public street is your film set. A movie production gets a permit and works on a closed set when they're doing something like this for their movie. If you can't afford to do such a thing ... do it on private property you have permission to be on.

[@bchin4005]

"But I'm a cosplayer and I can do whatever I want..." 😂

[@emilykingaby4981]

As someone living outside of the us this reaction is crazy but then really sad that you have to live in fear of actually getting shot because otherwise you will lose freedom.

[@IIMiikexDII]

Nobody lives in fear unless you're in specific areas lol