Body Language Analyst/Hypnotherapist REACTS to Teal Swan from "The Deep End." Is She DANGEROUS?

[@belle8i]

As a person who has gotten to the point of suicidal ideation, the thought that pulled me out of it was that death comes for everyone. You don't have to make it happen or force it because it's inevitable, so the best you can do is to find something that makes life worth living or at least tolerable. I thought about how good it feels to snuggle my dog or feel the sun on my face. Around the time of my suicidal thoughts, a coworker had died from colon cancer. On the night of his death, there was a supermoon, and I watched it rise over the mountains, which is an incredible sight to see. I thought to myself that my co-worker would never again get to experience the beauty of the natural world like I was experiencing at that moment. It cured me of wanting to end my life.

[@loveamerica3426]

I'm glad you are getting better, keep going, if you cut your story short you may miss out on some wonderful things.. 15 years ago my life was hellish and now it's so much better that all of that old shjt is just like a bad dream that I woke up from... it gets better.

[@camilleespinas2898]

❤

[@MissBluebirddays]

Her free content got me through a very dark period years ago. So much better than any therapist I saw at the time. She's awesome.

[@mst.de.cybertruck9213]

University has been spewing mediocre professionals for a long time. As someone who has been through more than 150 cognitive behavioral therapy sessions, with different "therapists", all from recognized and renowned universities, i can say that degrees, at least in the humanities, are overhyped and don't do much.

[@Zmiana_Pogody]

I live in Poland. I'm not native English speaker. I find her free YT content as simply *very well explained & easy to be understood* I don't care about her personal fantasies about higher beings from other dimensions etc. I filter everything she says (and other "gurus") through my own wisdom, education, life experiences & my personal own beliefs (I'm atheist). I feel resistant to any form of cult she (or other gurus) may develope. I just take the knowledge I need and leave the rest I don't need. For example: when I listen about "the law of attraction" I just treat it as a metaphor. I don't need to belive in living and thinking and loving Universe to find loads of opportunities to use this metaphor / intelectual construction. Other poeple, who do belive in higher sense of existence (like God(s) or living Universe) find "the law of attraction" differently than me. But imo still *Teal's YT explanations work for everybody* - both for me (atheist, treating it as a metaphor), and for belivers. This is a big value I find in Teal's work. This is her biggest talent, I think. The same with psychology. Imo her best movie is about self-love. All psychological guides tell you to "love yourself", but no one explains how to do it! TEAL DOES!!! And her advise is brilliant!

[@jeffthomas905]

Me as well. Her and Dr. Nicole La Perla saved my life. My therapist were not affective.

[@ibrahimkurdieh3728]

She’s incredibly intelligent and insightful both psychologically and spiritually. Unfortunately, being intelligent and insightful does not always translate to ethical behavior.

[@aaliyahsworldxd9352]

Agreed. Love Teal. ❤

[@nachtorchis]

About the suicide video: it's on KZbin. It saved my life and that of some people I know. The technique is amazing. Postponing by a day, then a week, etc. Nothing before this video has ever helped. She did something that nobody else ever did : talk about it. Take it seriously. And give some tools to help. Mr tak health proffesionals are too scared to take on this topic and it has hurt me a lot. Denial of suicidal tendency is lethal.

[@Thevintagebootgirl]

I also found that video helpful in a moment of true crisis. I can only speak to my experience, but it helped me instantly shift into an empowered position & make choices that got me out of that space. It wasn’t a permanent fix, I had these kinds of thoughts resurface months later, but I failed to remember to watch the video again. I’m wondering if I had, if that would have made the last year or so go differently for me. Either way, it is a risky topic.

[@kaigrant88]

There's ways to help "push back" your plan, to then give time to reconsider and I'm glad she has helped you! I hadn't seen her stuff but with the same postponing method, it got me out of an immediate crisis before too!

[@kaigrant88]

I hope you're doing a bit better though!

[@hellocat9512]

How has nothing else before her video helped with suicidal urges if you were still alive when u watched it?

[@lorimiller4301]

Just getting older gives you the perspective that you know things change. How you feel at one point does not mean you will feel that way in the future. Kids need to be taught that feelings are like the weather, they change frequently ! What is a huge storm one day, can pass and be like nothing in a short time. Don't be too quick to settle on one point of time or one feeling. Just because you have a thought doesn't mean it's right, or that you have to listen to it.

[@SooGinOgden]

I don't usually sit down and watch a 50 min video on youtube but you do a great job being objective that I felt I wanted to hear this through to the end. Thank you so much!

[@TheBehavioralArts]

My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it 😊 I think it’s so important to try to remain objective and consider both sides of the argument 🤗

[@maybrittwilkens6149]

Yeah, very true.

[@Pilot333]

It would do justice if you also listen to Ms. Tael Swan herself. There is a lot of proof that this documentary is a set up to frame Swan. The original footage has been edited in such a way to discredit Tael Swan.

[@Pilot333]

Someone can be 'objective' with given information (such as the documentary "the deep end") yet still be misinformed. That is the case because the documentary itself is a highly edited vile piece of anti-propaganda. To be really objective I suggest you go to the channel of Tael Swan and watch her response videos and the proofs she offers. Only when you heard both sides of the matter you might have a more true perception.

[@annath_ii]

My parents didn't help me with my dysfunctional life. Teachers didn't help me with my dysfunctional life. No person I ever met helped me with my dysfunctional life. Teal did it for me. She opened up the way and in a matter of one year, I became who I wanted to be and started getting on my feet, for the first time in my entire life. I can finally see a way to become healthy. I can go out, talk to people, I can explain myself, I can have boundaries, I can show love, I've learned forgiveness beyond imagination. Even when I am sad, I am happy. I don't assume everyone has the same experience, but these videos are for free and they are literal treasure. Soo...

[@dianadias3]

Even when I'm sad, I'm happy... Amazing, this is the way to live

[@Lovo369]

❤ I’ve been helped too.

[@hollytutin2279]

💯

[@jsmithsemper4848]

That is awesome to read!!!! I have recently come across her material. She does indeed have brilliant things to say & her teaching material asks pretty deep questions.

[@8_bruh_8]

If you are going into debt, if she is telling you to reject your family and friends, you are being manipulated.

[@kristapaigecan]

one more thing.. I find it so interesting how opening up someone to different perspectives is as dangerous or more dangerous than sending them to someone “licensed” who will most likely point them in the direction of meds.. and literally numbing them or pumping them with toxic chemicals and making them dependent on meds for the rest of their entire lives. That is treating them as though they are to fragile to handle any type of critical thinking..

[@hannaheye]

Teal Swan has sociopathic qualities and I have a lot of experience with this. That being said, I've also had HORRIBLE experiences with therapists. So I fully agree with you.

[@istvanpraha]

Agreed these videos are so dramatic with the “dangerous” Teal has pretty basic thoughts if I don’t jive with one it’s not “dangerous”

[@earthboundserafine2972]

I agree with your perspective. Many licensed therapists need deep work themselves before working with others….

[@TheZGALa]

Yes, we are not having a global mental health crisis because 'qualified professionals' have everything all figured out. The absurdity burns.

[@cobblecattt]

Just wanted to add, that meds can and do actually help people. After being addicted to weed for half my life, and being prone to post partum depression even with self medicating with weed, after my second pregnancy I was placed on a mood stabilizer and anti depressant. It helped me reconnect to myself without weed, and connect more to people in my life. It helped stabilize my mood, not numb me. I can finally feel joy and connection without needing to get high first. I also am not dependent on these meds, I'm weaning off right now and not even having withdrawals. Just offering a case study here! And there are TONS of other cases. I'm not saying that big pharma is not taking advantage of people, that certainly is happening. But please don't demonize what actually works for many people. Meds may have even helped me more for my first PPD, but I had such a negative stigma towards them that I smoked pot instead...which wasn't actually healing me.

[@justwatchingstuffhere]

People focus so much on the licensed/unlicensed part, but there's on guarantee that a licensed therapist will do a good or even decent job. Being told by a licensed therapist that I'm too emotional for her did a lot of damage and prevented me from reaching out for help again. On the other hand, Teal's video's on suicide made me feel understood and helped me build confidence. I don't think her teachings will help me become happy and build real connections, but they certainly helped me when I felt completely hopeless and suicide seemed like the only option. And I totally relate to Teal's outburst about parents refusing to take responsibility for their child's suicidal thoughts. Some parents are incapable of admitting any wrong doing which completely destroys their children's confidence and feeling of self-worth. I can also relate to her reaction to being questioned. And I totally agree with your analysis of that behavior being self-destructive. I'm working hard to become more open minded and get comfortable with criticism. I'm really inspired by how you're able to stay balanced and keep an open mind while talking about controversial subjects like in this video. This is the first video of yours that I've watched, and I'm going to watch a lot more of them. Thank you for sharing your valuable insights with us!

[@mollusckscramp4124]

I'm really sorry that a licensed practitioner would say something so inappropriate to you. If I wanted therapy like that I would just go to my father-in-law for emotional guidance! The nerve of someone who's entire field revolves around helping people navigate their emotions projecting when they find they're not cut out for it... I think that's like the equivalent of a surgeon walking out in the middle of an open heart surgery because they're "stressed". I'm sorry that you went through that and I sincerely hope it doesn't prevent you from trying to seek more help in the future! Not everyone's like that and it's not a fruitless endeavor, trust me. Sometimes people just suck.

[@pagerumer3533]

I also agree, thank you so much for your video very insightful and presented balance.

[@user-ji8ll1qn6o]

Some hypnotherapists suck completely

[@TheZGALa]

100%.

[@califlower6436]

Licensed therapists can be absolutely bs... your degree and education don't mean a sh***

[@vanjasneg9799]

I've been watching Teal for years now and love her content. I am still here and alive thanks to her brave, radical, honest and open teachings. Yes, in a world that wants us to be conditioned, in a world that cares only about money and success, in a world that allows pain and suffering but protects some imaginary safety, she will come across as crazy, radical, even dangerous. But all the 'professionals' that criticise her are just jealous she is saving us from drowning by hundreds and thousands with her free videos while you dance around individual clients in overcharged sessions unable to even scratch the depths of pain and trauma she is navigating confidently and skilfully, among other, because she was there herself. I watched this video because I can not believe world can be so blind and cruel to judge her, I was super curious if I am missing something or what.. It is staggering how unable some people are to not see the amazing stuff she does, but yet again, that's the same world that pushed me into depression and being suicidal for decades, word that is judgmental, uncaring, quick to attack, egoistical, self absorbed, unable to truly see the person next to them. Also, since you obviously haven't watch many of her videos, and you are judging her based on documentary of what is obviously someone wishing to tarnish her reputation. I would highly recommend you do watch and then judge for yourself.

[@Hay_Bay]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯. PREACH

[@robinmiller871]

She can handle it. After all, why let judgment from others, control your personal journey?

[@vanjasneg9799]

Of course she can handle it. She is a mature and self aware enough. My comment wasn't aiming at defending her, but to pointing to the author of this video that perhaps what he is doing is not quite ethical and moral. Which I'm sure he can take as well. So, can you take it?@@robinmiller871

[@martysnyder7970]

4:50 I'm reading this comment at this time stamp. 😮 edit 7:19 explains

[@macparker3549]

Tell it, girl! Well said!

[@valkylva]

I’ve watched many of her videos over the years. She is actually really freaking intelligent. She may not be for everyone but there are people who will totally get her and I am one of them.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

no offense but a lot of it is word salad under the guise of intelligence.

[@deedeewhipple4668]

@@melissamoonchild9216 yum, her smart words salad is good for the soul.

[@josho.9530]

She is ignorant as bricks and that's technically insulting the brick. TS is a predatory narcissistic and abusive control-freak ruining people's lives, laughing at the thought of people committing suicide while guiding them to imagine doing it. Sounds like you're right there with her. She should be in prison for the level of psychological manipulation she's done to society, much like Tony Robbins. Go seek ACTUAL help. Get a brain scan, go see a QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL.

[@c.s.70]

@@melissamoonchild9216 not at all if you even bother to listen & understand what she's saying (instead of character assasination), which for the most part tends to be reasonable and logical and most importantly insightful which shows a deeper understanding of those subjects especially on the topics of emotions and human psychology, evidenced in her clear, logical, insightful and cogent explanations. The other minority philosophical worldview which veer on the more speculative territory are just that, her own opinions which we are at liberty to agree or disagree. Content and substance over ad hominem allegations.

[@Wolf88888]

​@c.s.70 The only problem is, the more you delve into her story, the more she emerges as a very gifted pathological liar.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

"Avoid gurus, follow plants." - Terence McKenna

[@NicolaMaxwell]

"Nature loves courage. You make the commitment and nature will respond to that commitment by removing impossible obstacles. Dream the impossible dream and the world will not grind you under, it will lift you up. This is the trick. This is what all these teachers and philosophers who really counted, who really touched the alchemical gold, this is what they understood. This is the shamanic dance in the waterfall. This is how magic is done. By hurling yourself into the abyss and discovering it's a feather bed"

[@LittleTempest76]

Mushrooms are the way! and just connect with your higher being, not these fallible humans who seek only to uplift themselves and gain attention, ego.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@LittleTempest76 psilocybin therapy saved my life. I was 4 months minimum before I was headed for a wheelchair and my mental health was at rock bottom. I did psilocybin therapy and I don't have pain anymore and my health is better than ever.

[@aeropueroto]

Be autonomous and follow no one

[@mystik.mermayde.aotearoa]

Love it 🌱🌿🍃☘️

[@Grace43251]

She pulled me through one of the darkest places. I don't care what people say about her. I think she is amazing.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

I do too. I watched a few of her videos about resisting the role of the scapegoat and I just could not believe how helpful they were. I've watched other videos too. They really debate you out of feeling bad and leave you feeling better. It's very fashionable to slag her off.

[@philippagrimoire5968]

Her insight matches my own and mine came from within so I definitely trust what she teaches mostly. If she has imperfections and flaws that just makes her human. People will slander and hate anyone they can project their own traits onto Having said this I did once do a therapy session with one of teals therapists that she trained in the completion process and I did not continue with her and felt she had some weird boundaries that I did not feel comfortable with but that’s not teals fault

[@hannaheye]

@@SusanaXpeace2u TBF it's not necessarily mutually exclusive to be helpful and dangerous. I had a sociopath close friend who was incredibly gifted at helping people... when she wanted to be nice. If she became jealous or insecure, she would do terrifying things to people in the name of "helping them." It look me too long to realize that she was providing me with the most incredible support ever... until she wanted something of mine. Then the sh*t hit the fan and if I ever see her again I will literally start running in the other direction.

[@charissa6648]

Both things can be true; someone can be dangerous and also have helpful insight. What did she say that helped you so much? She doesn't say anything new; heard it all before so why is it so helpful when it comes from her? No one is denying that she has helped people, but what we are acknowledging is that she has also caused a tremendous amount of damage; people even taking their lives. She also thinks she is an alien, reincarnated, the most beautiful women in the world, God and Jesus. It's just bizarre how people can ignore all these signs because something she stated may have helped them. The best Liars speak some truth. Just be wise and protect yourself.

[@thebadhack1049]

I agree that the goal is to find happiness. I have seen only a few Teal Swan videos and can say she has a very deep understanding with what she preaches. I felt like she was describing my exact condition.

[@genevievearchbaker8604]

I find your videos very educational. Because of my autism, I struggle to understand people. Mainly because what is automatic for others, I need to consciously think about. Like for example, what emotion is someone showing, are they talking literal or figurative. I appear to be good at sensing people's emotions and subconsciously knowing how to act to it, but I struggle to put emotions to words or say what someone feels or what to do when someone feels a certain way. Your videos have helped me recognize body language and tone of voice and emotions more easily and I keep learning from you every video I watch. This video is a little faster than other videos I have watched, but with subtitles and pausing and rewatching bits I can still follow it. I havent been around on youtube for quite a while, but your channel is one of the first channels im watching again and I would like you to know, that I really appreciate everything you teach me. My brain functions mainly on logic, and by explaining the logic you have taught me more in a few videos than my therapist did in years, though experiences and trial and error has taught me even more, though both you and therapy give me things to try out and experience which is very useful. Edit: I would like to learn more about egocentric and narcissistic people, do you have a video you can recommend me? Someone who used to be very, very close to me apparently is like that so I would like to learn more about it to recognize it in the future and avoid the (figurative) mess im cleaning up now

[@sc33h3o3]

It was a weird question though, he said who could "challenge" you

[@OurFreeSociety]

Huge EGO is just a person's insecurity. We all need an EGO & we came with one, but when it gets out of hand, it's because of insecurity & the need for attention. This is why releasing childhood trauma is so important. I'm sorry for your condition. This is all due to poisonous Vxs that are forced on all babies by the evils, but there's other reasons for it too, at least 2 other reasons. It's a balance in understanding if the person you are dealing with & even people who don't have autism often don't know if a person is narcasistic or not, & that word is thrown around way too much. My rule is this, if the person doesn't know themselves well & doesn't work on their issues using alternative therapy (even conventional would be better than nothing) than I don't want anything to do with them. I put up with people online who don't do this, but in real life I wouldn't. If they start to try & control me, that's a warning sign. I know it can already be too late by then. I'm a huge proponent of alt therapy. Conventional doesn't help at all, but alt therapy could help you, so you could look at my list to see if one of them works with autistic people b/c I know they also have the issue of flying off the handle for no reason. I would also work really hard to detox your body although a baby or child is never the same after the shots. I've heard that from mothers. I have an older video of a mother at Autism One who did a lecture & she used herbs on her son. I'm not sure how much it helped him, but herbs help us all b/c we are poisoned non stop by the evils. I don't know how old you are. I would also look into homeopathy & see if they have anything new to help. HTH

[@angelbrown1626]

I used to follow Teal and found a lot of good techniques but ultimately stopped following her on KZbin due to some more "radical" ideas. I'm so glad I found you and The Behavior Panel. You have shown me to be more attentive to the potential of deception. As a mom I am trying to raise my son to think critical and not just trust in the words someone speaks. Thank you for all the amazing videos and tips.

[@jessi1164]

Big same. I was actually going to comment something along these lines!

[@iloveGod1105]

You're an amazing mom!!!

[@justbnice3093]

It’s just like anything else in life, take the bits you can use and discard the rest. If you’ve ever been to ALANON or AA, they tell you that. But the suicide thing feels wrong to me. Really wrong.

[@thecougarexperience]

I just unsubscribed myself!

[@alukuhito]

So glad you got out! I've looked into her, and you can just tell she's an abuser. I've dealt with her followers a little, and they're blind. Glad you woke up.

[@vox.vera.vocalcoaching]

I'm a deeply intuitive person. When my gut feeling signals that something's not good for me, I follow the advice. And that's the advice I'm always getting, when a video with Teal Swan comes on. There's something about this woman I distrust. I can't even tell exactly what it is. It's just not for me.

[@shardakay3587]

I agree, same feeling here. I don't trust her.

[@inspiredfreedom2507]

same. Something that just doesn’t feel right, seems a little off maybe disingenuous in her motives. Not sure what it is but never resonated with her

[@jellydarling1008]

Her eyebrows are to thin. I know it’s odd but it bothers me. XD sometimes it’s weird shit like that and other times it’s, spidy-sense go off the chart

[@Lavigrapi]

Same!

[@holistikirsty3167]

Same! I agree with alot of what she says, but I just don't resonate with her...something is off.

[@whims6278]

I had never heard of Teal, so I came into this video without any opinion. I thought you did an incredible job, as usual, at showing us both sides and showing us a multifaceted human being-like we all are. I had so much cleaning to get done this morning, and it flew by listening to this! You always seem to give me insight into myself in each of your videos, on top of the insight you bring in to those you cover. Thank you!

[@janephilpott6565]

I was cleaning while watching this too!! Great way to fill the mind while doing the mundane chores 👌

[@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens]

I agree. I had no clue who she was, either. Looks like she's "riding the wave" of self diagnosed mental illnesses. I'm sure she, and a hundred other Guru's, are making shitloads of money off all the clicks and "retreats" aka World Tours at $40/month plus $1600 for "premium tickets to her "retreat" where you get to "sit by the stage" and afterwards you can "drink a cup of tea with Teal." (For $1600!!!) What the hell is wrong with people??!! 😳

[@EveningTV]

I'm curious what your conclusion was having never heard of her before.

[@whims6278]

@@EveningTV I watched it a few days ago, but I'd say I came away thinking thay overall she's been a bit over-demonized by media (as assertive women often are) and it seems like some of her ideas could be helpful, but overall her ego and her not seeming to be able to take any criticism was concerning. I'd say she didn't come across as terrible, but I'd approach with caution - if rhat makes any sense lol

[@bananafanalll6651]

Ypu should watch some of meals videos. She amazing!

[@lizl2432]

I had the most profound experience with a psychiatrist I found (unfortunately he was close to retiring but I got to have a half a year of good sessions with him and EMDR was so revealing. He had me relax and tapped my left then right leg over and over and then I had to continue imagine feeling it after it stopped. Then he built a beautiful scene for me where I found a set of stairs leading down into a conference room and standing across from me at the table was my young self and I had to ask for her forgiven ness (etc etc) This was so amazing for me because if you look at your young self and think about telling that little girl all the criticisms you tell yourself today and then realizing that little girl is this adult girl 🤯 It helped me so much.

[@lorafragniere4815]

"She is to you what you need her to be". I think you've said everything. Much respect

[@sab2924]

Totally

[@HumanimalChannel]

Isnt that the job of any Guru?

[@808statemusic]

❤

[@rackyella]

@@808statemusic Exactly. If you think she cult leader yes she is seems like but same time she is helping the world awake in her way not traditional way. All gurus somewhat cult leader. things will change If you change the way you look.

[@stacey_1111rh]

@@rackyella wow 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@shakespearefan80]

Hey Spidey, I was really looking forward to this video and I was not disappointed! I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your being factual, not jumping to conclusions. This is actually bigger than just your videos or these topics. If we see more and more people like you, listening, observing, reserving judgment and just being present, it absolutely makes this world a better place. That’s why I watch your videos. It’s not just what you say (which is amazing), but also how you do. Love from Germany, Sarah

[@Kkayoodle]

Absolutely agree with your comment. The other thing I've learned is that most of the time we aren't hearing what someone is saying to us cause we're too busy planning what we're gonna say next to them. Love the insight in his videos!

[@Wonderkell74]

I am not sure about her not being a narcissist. Maybe I’m just cynical, but you got to remember that she is aware that there is a camera on her when she says that stuff. My mother could very convincingly fake being “humble, selfless, honest, self reflective” person in public, but an extremely abusive narcissist in private. The tell tale signs would only occur to some people years after they first met her, and sometimes still not.

[@Vercanya]

Exactly! Especially communal narcissists are really good at this.

[@Lenastar23]

Covert Narcissist. I'm not sure if she is but I don't know enough

[@KateCarew]

Oh, she’s seriously narcissistic, I don’t know if it’s a full blown pathology but the tendencies are loud and clear.

[@andreadenker6216]

I absolutely agree. I'm the surviving daughter of a narcissistic mother. My mother knew exactly how to put on a show, how to appear humble, kind, loving, forgiving and selfless. But, in truth, the moment we were alone she showed her true colors. She put me down in every possible way, humilitated me, called me names, beat me, punished me with the silent treatment and spread rumors about me being "a monster of a daughter". Then she would portrait herself as the victim. It is sad, but true. I still have years of therapy ahead of me. Based on my personal childhood expiriences TS' behaviour rings a lot of bells. It reminds so much of all the things my mother said and did and how she handled conflict situations in a certain way. Your last sentence summs it all up: my familiy ignores all the red flags around her and worships her as a saint while I get shunned for speaking up against her mischief behavior.

[@Wonderkell74]

@@andreadenker6216 oh wow, were we raised by sisters?! Totally the same thing. Even now, since I cut her off a year ago, she is getting around town telling all & sundry that I am “ A c&$t who has destroyed her family”. All I can do is rely on people who know me not believing her BS. And if they do, then they don’t deserve to be in my life either.

[@TenTenJ]

I met Tal Swan after having followed her for several years through a friend who happens to know her. It was completely unexpected, that I should know someone that knows her. But when I met her and talked to her and we talked about the topics that she discusses, she came across as one of the nicest people I have ever met. I’m not embellishing. This is a sincere person that we’re talking about.

[@aimeeconaway9024]

The channeling that sparked the abuse allegations from childhood could also be dangerous because in some states (if not all of them) there is not a statute of limitations on sexual child abuse. Now, would this discovery hold up in court or result in a final conviction just based on the fact that he/she was convinced it happened after the channeling, maybe not. BUT if you live in a state that is required to report and investigate sexual abuse of a child, any of those documents are often permanent, especially if there ends up being an arrest. So it's dangerous to just come out and say, "oh yea.. I'm pretty sure I was abused and so-n-so did it." That could legit ruin someone's life.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

This is a terrific point and especially with the unreliability of long term memory makes for a very dangerous potential. Thanks for this brilliant comment

[@ru2die]

This comment explains one of the biggest issues with Teal’s methods. I experienced this with her. It’s incredibly damaging on so many levels.

[@shantijamilah8688]

@@ru2die I’m so sorry you experienced that from her 🥹, so painful. I pray you can get healing for all that you have been through 🙏🏼

[@elizabethf8078]

...and what if it's complete imagination and never happened? Using a book on persuasive psychology as a means to convince people of scenarios that in some cases are bound to be WAY OFF.

[@se-lene]

I haven't watched teal in a long time but tbh some of her advice was OK to me. I think what people don't like about her is her pragmatism and her insensitive demeanour, because she doesn't sugar coat what she says. Idk what to say about the " bad vibes " everyone feels from her, part of them could be just because she has a harsh approach to make you understand what is wrong and how you can solve your issues.

[@aleece4]

The thing with revisiting trauma, specifically through EMDR, is that while the practice is well documented to help heal trauma, no one knows WHY or HOW it works. EMDR also requires the mental health professional to be highly trained. They use precise motions and techniques, and VERY specific phrases to protect the client from being more traumatized by the experience. Sending traumatized people off in pairs to relive their trauma just sounds very irresponsible and potentially dangerous for the participants. 😖

[@sanfransoho]

As I understand it. Only under professional conditions. And the benefits are short term according to the newest data. It's not a permanent solution.

[@lorimiller4301]

I followed the technique in the book Primal Scream and while I initially uncovered my memory of my abuse and for that I was grateful, I ended up having a nervous breakdown and got Fibromyalgia. Can't say for sure one lead to the other but I was warned not to do the work alone and I did it anyways.

[@mulantisreunitingall888]

First of all, thank you for sharing your open-minded/hearted, neutral perspectives, which we need more of in this world, since there are many shades within the rainbow 🌈 spectrum of Life and beyond, and this includes the topic of Teal Swan. Recently, I received an email newsletter from Teal and her team, though I had unsubscribed years ago and discontinued watching her. The old version of me would’ve reacted in an irritated way, but I intuitively knew there was something else that I could learn from her during this phase of my life, even if it’s briefly. Teal recently shared a social media poster that I highly resonate with, that states, “THE BEST SELF-ASSESSMENT FOR RELATIONSHIPS IS TO ASK YOURSELF THE FOLLOWING QUESTION: HOW WOULD I FEEL ABOUT MY SON OR DAUGHTER DATING A PERSON EXACTLY LIKE ME?” And it now occurs to me that this quote can also apply to ANY person, to include Teal Swan, and it doesn’t have to be related to dating or a romantic relationship. So would it feel light to my Heart if my adult children decided to watch (WITH DISCERNMENT) some of Teal’s helpful KZbin videos that are encouraging, uplifting, empowering, inspiring, and Consciousness expanding? Or even read some of her helpful material? Sure. However COMMA would it feel light to my Heart if my adult children decided to attend her workshop, event, and/or retreat? Absolutely NOT, especially after seeing some questionable video clips within this video, and mostly due to my personal experiences at her event that I wouldn’t want my loved ones to be exposed to (since Teal didn’t seem like her earlier KZbin, trustworthy persona during those times, but a completely different person). In a nutshell, I highly resonated with most of Teal’s earlier KZbin videos. This eventually lead to being drawn to one of her NYC events years ago. There, I had the opportunity to have personal experiences with Teal; and let’s just say that event was the first and last Teal Swan event due to some major red flags that I had witnessed, to include some surprising and disturbing verbal teachings-that seemed to be the opposite of her KZbin videos-and some revealing nonverbal cues (that I learned to identify, not only intuitively, but from various military training, to include a senior interrogator course). One woman participant I met left the event after a day, because Teal said something very insensitive to her audience, that further hurt this woman on her healing process. This woman had just left her chronically abusive mother and boyfriend, but because Teal was anti-solitude at the time-due to her own deep fear of ever being alone (hence, she was known to always be surrounded by her tribe)-she instilled guilt and shame for anyone who needed solitude time (even sharing a social media poster that anyone who wants solitude time is all about their ego, which I shared a disagreeing comment on). But even some of the highly respected spiritual teachers, to include Sadhguru, have taught about the importance of solitude time (that’s also balanced with social time); and I, too, know, from personal experiences, the profound value of some solitude time. Granted, I’ve been on a Soul journey of embracing and integrating more and more (ultimately neutral) aspects of Full-Potential, Multidimensional, WHOLE Self (Spiritual Self)/self (physical self)/interconnected Life, so that includes Teal Swan. I trust that Teal has her own strengths (and weaknesses) and Soul gifts (like all Souls), so, she’s not all good or all bad (like the rest of us), but a combo package of many complicated aspects. But it’s wise to BE DISCERNING when it comes to learning from others, and NOT just take everything onboard-in a non-intelligent, gullible way and without healthy boundaries (part of self-love)-and place another on a pedestal (due to NOT realizing the Divine within oneself as well). I trust that it’s wise to always follow our own inner guidance/Heart/intuition/inner-wisdom/and other LOVE-based energies FIRST AND FOREMOST, and sense when another does or does NOT FEEL light to one’s Heart.. By the way, what happened to actually analyzing non-verbal cues (not verbal) at the beginning of this video? See Red Flag 🚩 #1 (below). Plus, True Leaders are known to RESPECT their team members, and be very approachable to their team. All team members should be comfortable enough to authentically, honestly, freely, fully, and tactfully express themselves. If a leader has an intimidating attitude-that no one should dare challenge the leader-then even audience members may feel uncomfortable about asking questions (just like the guy appeared very uncomfortable to speak to Teal). Red Flag 🚩 #1: Her presence at the beginning of this video still FEELS cold, distant, closed-off, unapproachable and arrogant-how she mostly was at her 3-Day NYC Event (my first and last event with her)-though her presence FELT warm, empathetic and confident (yet humble) in her earlier KZbin videos that led to that event. Red Flag 🚩 #2: Why can’t someone challenge another without needing to be in an above position? She didn’t answer his question. And why isn’t the audience member’s question important? Every question is valid, and is apparently important to him. I don’t know how true this is-since I haven’t watched The Deep End documentary yet-but a woman who has seen it, shared a reading via the Medium app, abou Teal having her team sign a document called The Non-Negotiables that was very controlling, unreasonable, self-centered, and cult-like (that are definitely major red flags 🚩): I wondered if this document is true-since that would be a sure sign of fully releasing everything related to Teal Swan from my life. And sure enough, I found a Facebook posting of one of the main team members of Teal Tribe (Blake), who got married, and some woman posted the following comment: “You deserve to love a woman as wonderful as Juliana. Don't let Teal convince you that you aren't worthy of your own relationship.” 🖤🤍❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷🩶🤎💔❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥💝💖💗💓💕 A while back, while watching a Teal KZbin video, I noticed how she was subtly manipulative to her best friend, Blake, trying to make him feel guilty for spending some solitude time away from the continual demands of Teal and her team (he had turned off his phone at times, which anyone has every right to do). So I shared a comment about that, since it went against her teachings about manipulation, control, and instilling guilt and shame (which she also did at times in her later videos). You wanted feedback regarding 21:10 part of this video. The following is an excerpt from a BBC article, regarding a story from parents who lost their daughter to suicide: Experts' concerns But they all raised concerns about aspects of Swan's teachings. One of those experts is Dr Jonathan Singer, the president of the American Association of Suicidology. […] "She's got these ideas that in her mind are only helpful. But for others could be really dangerous." "What you're doing when you tell somebody to visualize how they're going to kill themselves, is you're telling them to practice in their mind," he says. He explains that research shows this type of imagery rehearsal is "a very effective way of improving your actual ability to do something". For example, it is something that Olympic-level athletes use, he says. 🖤🤍❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷🩶🤎💔❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥💝💖💗💓💕 Regarding 25:35 - 25:50 & 28:37 : When channelings include very general information that can apply to many people, without any specific, personal information, that can be a red flag 🚩 as well. Granted, I highly resonate with Bashar’s definition of channeling-channeled via Darryl Anka-that we all can do it to varying degrees when we’re in alignment with our True Self and following our exciting passions. But not all channelings are genuine, and stem from love-based intentions; hence, it’s important to Be DISCERNING while following one’s inner guidance/Heart/intuition/gut feeling/inner-wisdom FIRST AND FOREMOST.. And this includes a lot of psychic readings that can be accurate to varying degrees (but not all), depending on how a psychic’s heart and mind are integrated as One, and in alignment with a highly beneficial, unconditionally loving, profoundly wise and higher power within. Plus, there are many future probabilities with The Quantum Field of Unlimited Possibilities/The Cosmic Womb. Regarding 28:37 : You’re absolutely spot on, it can be damaging if those channeling in this documentary were projecting their own unhealed, childhood traumas. And they could’ve planted unnecessary, fear-based seeds into these participants, more than likely leaving some not so peaceful feelings about their family members, who may not have abused them. Like you stated, if whatever method truly helps others to deeply heal, great; but if there’s further hurt added, now that’s only adding fuel to the fire. 41:35 (RE: 5 techniques of cults and/or gaslighters): At the NYC Event, Teal did tell everyone NOT to follow any other spiritual teacher, and she did NOT like to be challenged with questions that seemed to go against or threaten her teachings. At this point, I lost track of all the Red Flags 🚩 within this video, but I’m still curious, so I will check out “The Deep End” documentary to Be a neutral Observer, explore various perspectives, and continue to learn and grow. But I strongly sense that afterwards, I will be fully releasing Teal Swan from my life-to include unsubscribing to her newsletter-while appreciating all that I’ve learned from her, and wishing her and her team well.

[@scottzajac2542]

Thoughtful analysis! 1. The rules for Teal’s inner circle are not written, but frequently expected in small businesses with a need for intelligence and loyalty. (a hedge fund, or a medical practice). Teal needs to recognize she’s running a business & if it requires loyalty and commitment, that’s something that occurs through trial & error. I did see her response to the documentary and it seems like they all live in the same house & are communal. She is married and lives in her own house, asked to others. 2. I have not seen her live, but I think she is both brilliant & naïve. The documentary was a hit piece for ratings. I hope she has some humility for expecting something different and going back to the early videos. 3. i’m not a professional, but I think trying to deal with trauma victims who may be on psychotropic medication, and other things that can cause suicidal ideation. Just make it a bad idea. I would try to focus on her relationship, insight, and the nature of women and men. The contrarian thought of women craving a type of masculinity, seems to resonate with a lot of women, and put a higher burden on a lot of men who are not stepping up. 4. After attending her seminar was there anything positive? It sounds like you were inspired by some videos on KZbin, and then disappointed at the event? 5. Did any of her relationship concepts resonate with you? I think that is her real strength, and even if she has noble insight into trauma, it’s just not something to address in a seminar.

[@elfo8elfo]

I remember seeing a video of hers on suicide. She encourages you to actually just go and lie down on the floor, as if the deed is done. And to ask yourself, "now what?" I thought it was a helpful way of realizing that suicide doesn't solve your problems, rather leaves you in a state where it's much more difficult to resolve them. For someone like me, with a good understanding of the difference between experimenting imaginitively with a hypothetical situation and actually wanting or condoning that situation, I found that really interesting and helpful. For some, the moment you say "imagine you committed suicide" it's like saying that you want that to happen, like encouraging them to envision it before they do it. We don't all think this way, though, and we don't all find it harmful. I understand that if someone has been somehow encouraged to commit suicide because of her approach to the matter, then it's important for her to consider the readiness of her audience to contemplate the ideas she wants them to in the way that she does. Personally, I love that approach of just being curious about death and not being afraid to acknowledge where you are. Sometimes when you feel really bad the last thing you want is people's "encouragemet" in words like "it'll get better soon," and "think of all the people who love you," etc.. we all know these things intellectually. What we need is some kind of spark of hope or a reality check to break us out of that loop of believing that death is the only solution. I think her aim is that reality check. Her approach may not be the perfect one, but I do beleve her intentions are good.

[@melissasaal8577]

Yes ! Finally! Someone had to say it.thats true

[@Hassanthehorse]

It's very sad that you can literally see her abuse and disrespect her cult followers in the documentary, yet some people with codependent personalities will still come to the defense of the cult leader. Do you have a need to be under the control of someone who you consider to be stronger than you? Do you not see how much the person in charge looks down on you and sees you as a pawn that they can charm/control in order to maintain their high status and dominance? For every predatory guru, there are like a million grown children with parental trauma(s) who are willing to defend and justify their actions because they desperately need to belong, idealize someone, or find a faux solution to their existential troubles

[@yardengali]

Hahaha death leaves you in a " more difficult position" to solve your problems? That must be about THE most idiotic statement by any of her followers here. Though I still think the " titles fade" one is stiff competition.

[@SetsukaHakushi]

My dudes, Spidy even says that this approach "CAN" work for some people. This did work for this person. Whatever the reason it is, it's NOT a stupid one. Whatever made them stop feeling this way, it doesn't matter. What matters is they are alive, and this technique helped. However, what he's saying isn't that it's not helpful, but that it should be done with personal guidance instead of being other internet as a free for all. Anyway, glad your alive. Keep kicking.

[@yardengali]

@@SetsukaHakushi The reason some cases it works is the same reason a placebo sometimes works. Plus all you have here is some unknown individual who claimed to have had an issue and claims it worked. And then there is the fact that she uses some standard techniques developed in psychology and just gave them " spiritual" twist. That channeling nonsense for instance. I did that in a therapy group some 30 years ago. Only then it was just called acting out a situation. The concept behind that " imagining suicide"? Hell that probably came from titlesong of a 70ies hitshow called MASH. And that idea in itself is also a thinking any human being can and many did come up for themselves. Often after seeing a professional who knew what they were doing and simply guided you, through asking questions, into a different way of looking at yourself, your problems, life in general. And seeing as I was the one using the word "stupid"...that was referring to the specific remarks I put in quotationmarks.

[@heartdisciple]

She is helpful and positive in that sense but also a trauma-reactive ego that really feels confident in her knowledge. She is a human and therefore not perfect, but she helps alot of people.

[@lilasfaves7846]

She uses people for ££ and to get validation from awful female stay clear please

[@joyrecoveryproject]

agreed

[@Dippmip]

they *think* they are helped by her

[@khyronjones5809]

@@Dippmip Are you saying “they” are wrong about themselves?

[@mrydobon]

It's so frustrating that a documentary that raises legitimate concerns has completely undermined itself by using dishonest editing techniques.

[@mokuskaferrett3062]

Yes... ANNNNND I hope we can all learn to be more nuanced! If we can think and speak with nuance, we can critique the dishonest techniques but also evaluate to what extent those do NOT invalidate ALL of the concerns the documentary highlights. Maybe they invalidate some of the message of the documentary--it's disappointing that the documentary clearly seems to have a message, an agenda, rather than to be a good-faith effort to get at and portray the truth (but who's really surprised by that? content creators/distributors want to get views, and most use cheap sensationalism to get them)--but do those dishonest techniques completely negate all of the critiques it implies? I don't think so. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. I mean, this is not a court of law. We can ask our own questions, as many questions as we want, and we don't have to give a yes or no verdict to one pre-specified question.

[@Happinosis]

@@mokuskaferrett3062 I'm autistic and I don't understand nuances. Maybe if we all speak more plainly then everyone will understand.

[@mokuskaferrett3062]

@@Happinosis You bring up a good point: There are different types of nuance. I think I agree with you in that conceptual nuance (for example, the idea that a critique-such as of Teal Swan-can hold validity even if it is presented in a way that lacks integrity), for best chance of being understood, should not be conveyed via nonverbal types of nuance such as, say, inflection. I'm not sure this is relevant but I'm autistic too.

[@Happinosis]

@@mokuskaferrett3062 being autistic is ALWAYS relevant xx

[@FULGURAZ]

Paranoid much

[@nicole-uf9zg]

This is problematic because you’re watching an extremely edited version of her life. She scares the hell out of me watching clips from the deep dive and not once has she given me the same vibe when I watch her videos, seminars, and interviews with other people on KZbin. She’s portrayed completely different on the deep dive and she has provided the complete and unedited versions of the workshops. She’s actually very helpful in getting people able to see their unconscious patterns and shadows to reintegrate. I’ve watched her for years and never paid, she’s helped me along the way

[@issacyasrom3421]

Yeah she has proof that these videos are edited to make her look bad too

[@Leprutz]

I can't even stand her on youtube. My guts tell me something is wrong with her. And she also manipulates. I have seen so many micro details that have led me to not like her. And I didn't even know who she was. But she most certainly doesn't hold the keys to the truth as many people believe.

[@1ReikiFloW]

real healers help people find their own answers, fake healers tell them they are guru royalty and grus are nothing but pawns for the dark side, a thing of the past, egotistical scarred beings who either need to save everyone or hurt them while pretending to care. They are all part of the same game, pretending to be against each other and the result is they produce hours of content to keep the sleeple fighting and from doing the work that could really help them. Talk is cheap, proof is in the pudding

[@teresalehtonen8499]

She is MUCH better than ANY trained therapist, psychiatrist Dr I ever met. And I have met many during my decades of severe depression, ptsd, generalized anxiety , add journey.

[@teeniequeenie8369]

Kinda like they did and do to trump.

[@Creature_of_Knight]

I've just watched the first 12 minutes of this video so far and I'm so glad it was pointed out how productions, even documentaries, should be taken with a grain a salt. I don't know if I would have caught that editing and weird splicing on my own. This and the Amber Heard interviews really made it obvious that what we see on TV should not just be automatically trusted as fact. Love your breakdowns Spidey!

[@RecreationalUseOnly]

Exactly, I don’t really trust any documentaries or main stream news anymore.

[@maggiesmith6013]

I'm really glad you pointed this out. I sometimes don't understand why other people don't. They are being manipulated by media. I have some hypnosis training and see the manipulation all the time. I just wish others would wake up to it. We are being used and devalued on a mass level. I'm so glad Spidey comes from a place of empowerment. He very easily could do otherwise and make money.

[@RecreationalUseOnly]

@@maggiesmith6013 well said. It’s scary to read many of these comments from people who came here bashing Teal Swan and they thought Spidey’s video did that. They didn’t watch the video 😭

[@Creature_of_Knight]

@@checkyourhead9 Amber Heard went on Dateline and was interviewed after the defamation trial with Depp. Dateline released 3 small preview clips of the interview before releasing the whole thing. When you compare the preview clips to the final release, Amber Heard's responses have been edited. Full sentences that we got to hear in the previews have been edited to be missing words and phrases. There are several channels here on KZbin where you can see the clips being compared back to back. Spidey has one here on this channel, and there are more, like on Emily D. Baker's channel.

[@cb9746]

Such a shame too - if something is bad/dangerous/false then let the facts speak for themselves. Cutting it up to be misleading is just as dishonest imo. Much like if AH only had only one or two claims of abuse that were less sensational, she might have been believed

[@kathym656]

I think she healed to some extent from whatever childhood trauma she had experienced. Her methods made her feel better. The problem is that she hasn't healed completely. The anger & lack of compassion she shows others is how she treats herself.

[@vanillasky8360]

Nobody heals completely. If you think that, you're going to run to really dangerous people for help and you're most likely to become one of those very dangerous and toxic people yourself. We never finish learning and healing on this platform... Your ego might not like that tho

[@coriclancy8818]

She’s a fraud

[@Pilot333]

If you base this on her documentary then you are misled. The documentary is not the real footage. It is edited so much as to discredit Ms. Swan. There is proof also this has been done. Comparison of orignal footage and the edited version show HUGE differences. It is basically like the m.ain str.eam m.edia that is all fake.

[@Justice-tk3dr]

She has a testimonial about being brought into a satanic cult when she was young.

[@Dani-lc9hq]

Yes absolutely this! She has high narcissistic traits and I didn't see that in the beginning because I agree with most of what she says, but over time these little red flags started to stand out to me until I could not longer unsee it, I don't think she should be in this big of teacher position if she isn't able to see and overcome these parts.

[@sonja7halcyon]

I’m someone who spent years spiritually bypassing my shit using all sorts of new age techniques. Revelation and release after revelation and release, it was all fantasy. The real healing didn’t come until I engaged with a professionally trained trauma therapist and then I could see so very clearly how everything I did previously was actually re-traumatising me. Getting together with a bunch of strangers whom you've never met before in your life, and being pressured under the guise of "being open", "engaging non-resistance" and "being willing to do 'the work'" in order to talk about or re-experience your trauma with said strangers is re-traumatising in itself. They ask you to just completely ignore your natural intuition and common sense boundaries, usually under the indirect threat of being judged a "fear-based" person. They ask you to "release your fear" when real trauma therapy will teach you to honour and work with your fear. These people have never gained or earned your trust yet you just hand it over to them willy-nilly in a desperate attempt to avoid your pain under the guise of healing it. You all dissociate and enter a shared fantasy which keeps you trauma bonded to those people and the guru/facilitator. You leave the workshop feeling like you've created deep connections with complete strangers not realising it's a trauma bond. And then you go to the next workshop, and the next, and the next, becoming a healing workshop junkie and not realising why none of it ever sticks or heals you to the point that you don't need another workshop. Trauma bonds create cults. I spent 8 months talking absolute shite to my trauma therapist before my nervous system/subconscious fully registered that this was a safe person that I could trust and open up to. 8 months! Do you know what told my nervous system/subconscious that she was safe? Not her words, anyone can say anything, it was her actions. She showed up consistently at the same time every week. She wasn't going to abandon me, she wasn't going to get sick of me, she wasn't going anywhere. 8 months. And you're expected to do that immediately with a stranger at a workshop? Just open up immediately to a complete stranger? The minute you decide to trust a complete stranger in these settings you've already dissociated and abandoned yourself. What most people don't realise is that most trauma at it's root is about SAFETY and TRUST or the lack there of. Early attachment wounds with unsafe caregivers. You DO NOT heal that by blindly trusting a complete stranger with no professional trauma psychology education that will be in your life for a weekend and then disappear again. Talk about doubling down on abandonment trauma right there! Trust and safety with someone is earned, not blindly given. Attachment and relational trauma can only be healed within a safe, therapeutic relationship with someone who will be consistently there for you and consistently safe over a long period of time, gently chipping away at the trauma in a manner that does not overwhelm your system. It does NOT happen in an explosive cathartic release over 30 minutes with a complete stranger, and any healing you feel like you have gained is a fantasy that you will cling to to keep going, it's your minds way of trying to make sense of another trauma in order to split off from reality and not feel it. Trust me. You will play with these fantasies for as long as you need to until you're ready to do the real work. In my experience, experienced trauma PSYCHOTHERAPISTS trained in Polyvagal Theory and Somatic Experiencing KNOW what they are doing and are the most capable of working with your trauma. They know that there is no one-size-fits-all technique and work with your unique and specific experiences. New age healing techniques apply a one-size-fits-all method to trauma which is absolute madness. In my experience, psychologists and psychiatrists are the least equipped to work with trauma unless you find one that has personally chosen to inform themselves in the latest in trauma psychology, in Somatic Experiencing and in Polyvagal Theory. YES there is a massive difference between psychotherapists, psychologists and psychiatrists and knowing this will help you find what is right for you. Generally, psychiatrists work with labels and medication, psychologists work with behavioural techniques and psychotherapists go deep. As with ALL professions, the healing arts are littered with narcissists and psychopaths. Just because they have a degree does not mean they are not dangerous. You have to not give up the search in finding the right one, and TRUST your intuition when it tells you something is off. I also acknowledge money is a huge factor. See if there are any social supports available. My government offers free therapy to adult survivors of childhood abuse, although it's not advertised to the public at all I had to go looking for it, and I was lucky enough to be paired with a therapist who knew her shit and vibed well with me. I recognise my luck and do not take it for granted. But many therapists I paid for previous to her were shit. The irony of the free one being the best one! I wish you all the best in your search, it's really worth it in the end.

[@magnificentyou2279]

Thank you for this. There is so much to this. Often, after "therapy" a person is worse because so many "experts" open cans of worms and can't help the client clean out the can, release and resolve the emotional wound and psychological injury, and place something nurturing in the can, seal it, and put it away. And because they don't, clients end up with labels, drugs, secondary trauma, and more pain. Standard of care is generally horrifically ineffective. New methods, like EMDR, EFT, MR, and other somatic practices are effective... in the right hands. The only thing that matters to me are results my client wants, in every session, and sooner than later, without pain/ secondary trauma. Thank you for your excellent comment. Admiration.

[@sonja7halcyon]

@@magnificentyou2279 Yes that's exactly it; opening a can of worms and then just leaving them free floating around in your system with no processing or integration whatsoever. It bothers me that so many unqualified "healers" are jumping on the trauma bandwagon, some in sheer ignorance and others out of the egoic desire to be someone's trauma saviour - I guess that's a result of their own unhealed trauma though. Personally I found EFT re-traumatising and didn’t find EMDR did much for me either. Longterm therapy helped immensely with proper integration and in gaining a deep awareness and understanding of my personal triggers and wounds. Thanks for your reply and expression of admiration. It often feels like I'm shouting into the abyss when I speak about this! Much admiration to you for working ethically with your clients and doing truly healing work.

[@josho.9530]

20 likes? 2 replies? You fucking NAILED it! I've worked for all the gurus from Billy Gene to Keith Krance in the marketing world -- they're *all* cults. Exploitative, abusive to teams, etc. Almost became a speaker for Tony Robbins & Dean Graziosi only to be told I was "reading from a script" when I mentioned in my video I am LEGALLY BLIND with nystagmus. I wish all these people would go seek real help instead of pretending they're psychology experts, when they aren't persuasive, nor do they teach persuasion, they teach manipulation, shame, blame and if you leave the family, you're ghosted entirely, no matter what. Part of me wants to say "fuck these people" and I have, the ever-growing conscious part of me says "They're just taking out their traumas on everyone and I wish they'd recover." but no, give me $60k and I'll change your life/business/relationships/etc. It's all a complete scam and false promises. Most of them aren't the millionaires/billionaire's they'd have you believe they are. Same story, different angle, basically.

[@kristinab1078]

Thank you for sharing your insight. I'm sure this will be helpful to those who may need to work through past trauma AND most importantly, move forward with their life in a positive way, with the right professional.

[@wjb6468]

Very kind of you to take the time to share this info. I sought government funded therapy(there may be a waitlist) & worked w/2 psychologists that were great. I initially started therapy w/a clinical psychotherapist through a referral from a friend. All of these practitioners worked specifically w/trauma. Make sure your practitioner is licensed - you can expect that to be so w/government funded therapy. If medication is your goal a psychiatrist or GP can fulfill that. For therapy, I am not a big fan of psychiatrists, b/c, in my experience they favour meds. Please do not fall into the grip of self anointed gurus like Teal Swan. If access to legitimate therapy is scarce in your community try a crisis helpline or ask your doctor for help. Some therapists work on a sliding scale or may be able to put you on a payment plan - the former is likely an additional resource that is at least partially government funded. Be well & Take Care ❤

[@OanaMoraru-gr7bs]

In Hindu philosophy, the concepts of Purusha and Prakriti are central to understanding the nature of existence and the relationship between the individual and the universe. Purusha refers to the cosmic spirit or consciousness. It is often described as unchanging, eternal, and transcendent. Purusha is pure awareness and is associated with the aspect of the divine that remains unchanged amidst the changing phenomena of the universe. Prakriti, on the other hand, represents the material world, nature, and the realm of manifestation. It encompasses all the physical elements, energies, and forces that make up the universe. Prakriti is characterized by constant change and flux. According to Hindu philosophy, the entire universe is a manifestation of the interplay between Purusha and Prakriti. Purusha, as the cosmic consciousness, remains untouched and unaffected by the changes in Prakriti. Prakriti, on the other hand, undergoes constant transformation, giving rise to the diversity and multiplicity observed in the universe.The idea that we are an expansion of the universe and that we are our own "god" can be understood within this framework. It suggests that at a fundamental level, our consciousness (Purusha) is interconnected with the universal consciousness, and our existence is an expression of the divine unfolding of Prakriti. In this sense, we are not separate from the universe but are intrinsic parts of it, experiencing life and reality through the lens of individual consciousness. This interpretation emphasizes the inherent divinity within each individual and the interconnectedness of all beings with the cosmic whole. It invites introspection, self-awareness, and recognition of the divine essence within ourselves and the world around us. Teal's discussion about how she doesn't "look up" to someone is part of the above hindu theory about Purusha and Prakriti, claiming that we are our own 'god,' as tiny particles of the universe. While not everyone may be familiar or agree with this concept, it's intriguing to see parallels between quantum physics and these ancient beliefs. When Teal expresses that she doesn't look up to someone, it's akin to the idea of following one's instincts and needs, rather than conforming to others' expectations-a principle reminiscent of the biblical admonition against having other gods. It's about appreciating others while staying true to our own path and instincts, without necessarly having a "role models" Ultimately Teal is not a guru, nor a crazy person, she just presents a perspective on how to "let go", follow your intuition (guts) and keep an open mind (be non judgmental), so that the laws of the universe will "direct" you to what you need.

[@BorisBergman-sb5dn]

Thank you verry much for your knowledge and wisdom. God Bless. 🌷 & 🌷

[@nikiivan93]

Very well put. I feel like unless you have done the work on yourself, you can't even understand this, hence why she is so misunderstood and even disliked. She is reflecting the unhealed parts of us and that hurts to see.

[@stephaniechisholm2558]

I was at one of these retreats filmed in the deep end and the facilitation team was amazing and highly qualified. There were 22 retreat participants and at least 10 facilitators who were working with us at all times, even when we were split into smaller groups. The dynamic between the members of her team was great and you could feel the love they have for each other. I felt so supported by highly qualified trauma work professionals and was able to move through the intense things that I uncovered there. Her retreat was one of the most poignant and healing events of my life.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thank you for sharing that story. I’m glad you had a positive experience, that’s awesome!

[@origamiwithsulaiman3362]

Can I ask if the channelling is considered real channelling, or are they role playing so that the person can find some kind of closure that way?

[@stephaniechisholm2558]

That was not a part of the retreat that I attended so I cannot speak into it.

[@Hassanthehorse]

Get professional help for your codependent/addict ways instead of trying to find parental guidance and love from a mentally ill predator

[@cyninbend]

@@stephaniechisholm2558 That was the most important part of what we saw--these people (I want to say fools) deciding a family they never even met much less studied, or have any factual information concerning, were sexually abusing their children! The people bought it all--the worst possible accusations anyone can make against a parent, and they simply felt that it must be true? What on Earth does it matter that they love each other? I could scream because of how dense you and some others are. Ripping apart families--the most important relationships we have--based on feelings...these people are trained and primed by this woman to see rapist fathers everywhere (not unlike the woman in her background who saw Satanists everywhere). Does anyone consider what happens to the body of a 3-yr-old raped just once? They can die. This is a hideous practice telling vulnerable people this happened to them. There would be medical records, this is not the abuse parents can inflict without others learning of it. Teal took real stories others had and adopted them as her own--she has a pattern of this behavior most of her life. Love does not excuse any of the crimes she's committing on her way to wealth and power.

[@cygnusrays]

I followed this womans 'teachings' for years - many years ago, then alarm bells went off. She gets triggered and projects her shit onto others. I remember feeling really confused because her message was incongruent with her manner, she doesn't speak with ANY heart. Can anyone else feel warmth, compassion or geniune caring from her?

[@sophiemarcaurele]

Bingo. She feels icy like Jada or Heard.

[@cygnusrays]

@@ABJK-ds4wq I know her 'work' is based on recovery from her own trauma (being s*x trafficked in her youth), but she also has CIA connections, the CIA backed and promoted the new age movement. I can personally testify to how damaging that shit was for me.

[@thelittlemoonling]

@@ABJK-ds4wq most trained ppl are also lifeless and unhelpful

[@sunnc]

I agree she does have a cold demeaner & I have felt lately that her content is her projecting especially the male/female content she's been putting out lately.

[@xxqueenofdarkness]

I do feel a lot of warmth from her, especially on her older videos, which I guess you have watched. I think what you have noticed about her now is what happens with most spiritual gurus, they finish with the typical topics for society and they start digging into more advanced spirituality - I'm not that into these things, at least for now, although I'm very spiritual, so I avoid most of the more complex topics when I watch a spiritual teacher. But I think there is a lot of truth coming from her, compassion too. This "darkness" which people in the other comments claim to have sensed - I think it is due to her suffering in the past, but this is just my opinion.

[@lisasim]

Ooooh, the second scenario of channeling, reminds me of a series called "Sisters", that I used to watch 30 years ago. One of the sisters was manipulated by a psychologist, to think that her dad raped her, when she was young. It turned out to be a huge lie and it took her a long time to recover from that. I can't believe it happens in real life. This is SO DANGEROUS!

[@daydreamer3489]

WTF!!!

[@Spangletiger]

I also found that part deeply concerning and irresponsible. When she stated that she did not recognise it (and all power to her for having the courage to say it), that is when they should've stopped.

[@paulmccartneyadorrer]

This reminds me of an insane lsd experience I had where I had reverted back to infancy and could hear my dad making a deal with a scientist in a lab on testing my sexual/pleasure triggers. I was on a cold lab table and “re-experienced” the testing being carried out. It was insanely dark and definitely messed me up for a while. I don’t take that experience to heart anymore because if it was something real I was experiencing, I don’t think it was from this lifetime. It could also have been my innermost darkest thoughts playing out during the trip as if it were a memory.

[@shantijamilah8688]

Extremely dangerous and also something witches practice…channeling, divination, fake implanting of false memories, all stems from witchcraft and is highly dangerous and can seem as if it’s a positive thing but always has an underlying worse traumatic effect. There’s a difference with EMDR and guided therapy which is fragile and in my experience is more controlled and gradual (not re traumatizing or nearly as insane as the other stuff…)

[@JessMakeSense]

There’s an interview with one of Teal Swans childhood friends where she talks about how Teal psychologically messed with her and convinced her or at least tried to convince her that she was also abused by the same cult that teal claims abused her and that shes witnessed things like child sacrifices and a bunch of crazy stuff. This poor girl talks about how it really messed with her throughout her life and how she really had to work to get over it

[@Leprutz]

I am an editor too and there was something else that tipped me off from the confrontation in the beginning. It looks like it was shot twice: Her Body language and facial expressions changes completely from the first shot, having both hands down and the second shot suddenly she his sustaining her head on one hand. Then the third shot same as the first one, and the fourth shot same as the second. Those are signs for very heavy and bad editing.

[@OurFreeSociety]

I wish you could help me learn how to detect these things. It's very important in this terrible day & age to know when a video is doctored, it's a green screen & the audio is someone using a deep fake. I'm a Truther Activist so this is very important.

[@Leprutz]

@@OurFreeSociety Simple: Deep Fake voices, even I cannot detect. Some things are CGI and Green Screen and I cannot detect. But if it is editing it is much easier. First off: When something has been edited, you know it is material that has been tempered with. In the case as of this video it is simple. Just watch at the positions of hands, face and body, If they do change drastically from one shot to the next I can assure you the timeline and the dialogue has been heavilu edited. Specially when in the next shot they revert to the same position they adopted before. You have movies like Top Gun 2 and or David Finchers the girl with the dragon tatto and they both use inivisible CGI. Computer generated images so well done it is impossible for the eye to detect. In the end there is only one unique truth: It's our own. True happyness comes from within oneself and should not be from what surrounds us. Cheers.

[@atruthseeker79]

Her wanting to be accepted and studied by main stream psychologists reminds me of L. Ron Hubbard who wanted the same thing until his book on Dianetics was outright rejected (which lead to Scientology) and then he demonized the field of psychology because of their rejection.

[@TheShadowMan.]

FYI He is known as " L. Ron Hubbard "

[@atruthseeker79]

@@TheShadowMan. ty...correcting now. 👍

[@nicholnunn8074]

My opinion is that if she really wants main stream psychology to take her serious and study her techniques, she should take that approach herself. Use the scientific method and do a controlled study. Why expect others to go through the rigorous work to scientifically validate something you are doing.

[@atruthseeker79]

@@nicholnunn8074 good point. Maybe she doesn't know how to do the research. If that's the case she needs to further her education with a focus on research.

[@lovewwe1]

new age spirituality (which is what she teachers behind all of the psychology) is essentially very closely linked to scientology. A lot of people in the new age world don't even realise they've been sucked into a cult. It took a long time for me to realise and get out. Unfortunately, this is one of the teachers of this new age cult.

[@LawNerd007]

She makes my gut tingle with uncomfortableness. As the behavior panel say - when someone makes you feel uncomfortable there’s a reason for that

[@crystal6368]

Yup lizard brain is picking up something 👀

[@paulmccartneyadorrer]

Yes! I used to follow her videos and initially thought she might be someone bringing positive change. But I stopped following her and watching her videos almost immediately because something about her felt very off. I love listening to channelers, who often speak of the world healing and things of that nature. They do not cause worry within my being like she does. Her energy reads to me like a Disney Villain lol I used to like to listen to a woman named Dolores Canon, who I felt had deep spiritual insights, until in one group session she states that Teal Swan and a few others are modern day Prophets. This was a huge red flag to me and I stopped listening to Dolores Canon as well.

[@caroles5502]

Yep, she really rubs me the wrong way.

[@stevep3532]

That is the very narrow understanding of that statement. There is always a reason for discomfort but sometimes it says more about the ones who feel the discomfort than it does about the one making them feel that discomfort. Please, don't go listen to the quack lady now, I am just saying that all the discomfort means is that these techniques do not align with your inner thoughts and beliefs.

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

@@paulmccartneyadorrer holy carp. Dolores Cannon said that??? Ugh. I mean her stuff is a wee bit outside my zone, I don't believe everything her clients have uttered is true (under her hypnosis) but I really am surprised she would say anyone is a prophet. I know she passed but people still use her techniques passed down from her. It makes me all the more skeptical of it. It's another impure channel to me. People should stay away from channelling.

[@bluewaters3100]

You did an amazing job going through this video. I am 70 and been going to every kind of self awareness things possible since the 70's. My experience with channelers has been negative. I learned alot about how a person can be made to believe things when a person of authority tells you something. I had bad dreams about a group of people I was involved with ( definitely a cult) for 30 years. My marriage broke up. It really messed with my head and made me doubt my sanity for awhile. The person who helped me get strong and clear about myself gave me quite a few techniques which I use everyday. Watching this video reminds me of my younger days when I was always searching for answers. These types of seminars can be somewhat addicting because of the way you "connect" with other people there.

[@月亮-g5f]

Could you please share what techniques did you use to gain more clarity? The ones you talked about in your comment)

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

This is very interesting. I would also assume there's something where if you make a financial investment or a time investment you REALLY want it to pay off so are more likely to want it to work or believe it works.

[@sagejacote8427]

She has helped me waaaaaay more than 5 different professional therapist that I have gone to. She is such a badass. Why can’t people just leave her the fuck alone and just be fine with the thousands of people she has helped!!! She is a super strong women that people are so intimidated by. Also she has been through major shit and is not perfect but shit she has helped so many people!

[@diamond_noir89]

To be fair, her energy is so strong, people can't understand what is happening with them while watching her. She triggers core wounds, ppl who are afraid to touch these topics label her as evil or off. In fact they are seeing themselves, what's also exactly what she said about herself being a mirror. As those people get older and run out of coping mechanisms they have to face themselves and that's usually when their opinion about her starts to change.

[@aliciab4236]

Fascinating analysis. I have minimal exposure to Teal because she made me uncomfortable. Listening to your analysis of Teal I have a sense of what I was responding too. Teal is an authoritarian a bit of a dictator IMO. Her inner circle seems like a cult to me. Sign the agreement or you won't be close to me. Overall she doesn't seem healthy to associate with.

[@jennifermariejoyce]

I used to watch Teal’s videos and I’ve gotten some value from her words. As someone who has experienced suicidal ideation myself, I do not feel there is any safe way for me to let those thoughts play out in a fantasy where I actually end my life. Even if a licensed professional were offering this technique in a controlled, “safe” environment I would personally never participate. I also would never recommend, and would likely intervene if someone I know and care about wanted to. My opinion is that Teal’s intent doesn’t really matter, if what she’s doing is potentially nurturing suicidal thought or fantasy. I believe that Teal has experienced trauma, and that it’s possible she’s not healed enough to have the platform she has. Good intentions + low empathy = not for me

[@PeaceNYC2011]

I appreciate what you are saying. So well said.

[@elearah]

Every person we encounter in the spiritual arena is not there to "give" us solutions but to expose us to ideas that will bring forward our inner truths. Teal is very efficient in that. Whether ny truth coincides with hers or opposes it in a given situation, she always delivers.

[@ThereSaSpiderNMySoup]

I agree.

[@josho.9530]

Keep suppressing yourself while living in denial and delusion. Teal is a dangerous manipulator. She only delivers pop-psych and repression.

[@sanelaimamovic2621]

Perfectly said!

[@AA-to3hx]

Best comment here

[@ufojeo]

Yup

[@JoanneMacg]

Narcissists absolutely can fake good or humble. They’re so perfect that they know they’re imperfect.

[@paullindsay2230]

They say it takes one to know one or is the mirror speaking to you specifically.

[@shirleylambrecht218]

They may study what to say and how to say it to be the most influential.

[@noodlepie1991]

We all have narc tendencies. Shes a specialist in narc abuse/behaviour. You don't become an expert at something without knowing about it. She's only spoke about narcs in her childhood. Shes bound to have picked up narc behaviours. We all do because our society praises it. The journey is self awareness and healing. No ones excluded. Not you. Not Teal swan. Healers, therapist, professionals of any sort are still human and non of us are perfect. All of us have shitty behaviours that need correcting. Thats life. Doesn't change the fact she's self aware enough to share what shes learnt.

[@MaraLauraGöllner]

Yeah well teal swan is definitely NO narcisst. This is completely ridiculous guys. A cult? God she would never want to create a cult. If u cant see that then u cab simply not read people at all.

[@Pilot333]

It would serve justice if you also watch the response of Ms. Tael Swan. The documentary is not the original footage. The real footage is edited in such a way that Ms. Swan is discredited. Go to her own channel and see all the proof the documentary has been tempered with.

[@NothingByHalves]

I have dipped in and out of Teal Swan's videos over a number of years whilst healing my own C-PTSD. Some of the processes she used were incredibly helpful and a lot more gentle than the ones depicted here. However. I am incredibly sensitive to manipulation and body language, both through being autistic (and finding it very hard to understand someone's intention, hence being overly aware that I am naive) and through the trauma, and could automatically see that Teal's childhood experience of abuse and being trapped within a cult has left her with a deep anger towards anyone without emotional intelligence, and a fierce determination to protect and save every victim on the planet. It's no real surprise that she wants her Inner Circle to contain people who know exactly where she is coming from who are equally dedicated to the role - at least she makes that abundantly clear. A great review, Spidey, thanks!

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Wow great insight! Thanks

[@O2life]

@@TheBehavioralArts Teal Swan was a child patient of Dr. Barbara Snow of the "repressed memories" Satanic Panic in the 1980s and '90s.

[@ari3lz3pp]

I can relate int he sense of being autistic and sensetive to the body language etc. I don't always know what it means...I get confused a lot but I do get major gut punches. I learned this by my husband being able to point out a situation in retrospect then I was many times like "OH that's why I felt weird..." Lol 🤣 TS seems narcissistic to me. Narcissists can develop from trauma. So I'm not trying to shame her...but a lot of her tactics seem to revolve around remaining a victim in an odd ironic way. The defensive "I'm not a victim, I'm not a VICTIM!!" Someone else: "No one said you are!" People similar to TS: "I SAID I'M NOT A VICTIM!!!" (The refusal to move on from that idea as a whole). There are many inappropriate times she brings up things like that and obsesses over reliving it, or being child-like instead of focusing more on the results ofoving on, and how to stay on track. I was interested in how she talked about boundaries, but she contradicts herself a ton. She has obvious boundary issues. It's clear in her use of language. She seems to feel she has and should have more power over other's experiences instead of promoting more self-reliance. She talks about self-reliance but doesn't seem to promote that through what she actually explains and suggests....that's just my two cents. I used to sub to her but I definitely would tread carefully. I do remember about a year ago my husband and I did the cube test and it was fun and very telling. We actually became a lot closer and understood ourselves better after. 😊🦋

[@bathsheba9581]

Teal's back story appears to be made up. She has a long history of telling tall takes dating back to early childhood, Her parents knew there was something wrong with her from a very early age. She claimed she was the reincarnation of Cleopatra and her parent's only purpose on earth was to serve her. Her very liberal, teacher parents, gave her everything her heart desired. They were over protective and tolerated any bratty behavior. She refused to do simple chores because she was too special. She was told she was "special" by mom and dad and it looks like she took it to the extreme. They bought her a horse at age 8 complete with English riding lessons. She had ballet classes and piano lessons and ski instruction to the point where she was a professional skier for some company. Don't ask me what they do. Maybe give lessons. She showed an interest in alternative medicine so her mom took her to China for a mini class in the aforementioned. She admits to being obsessed with modeling in the Chris Oswalt interview, so her mom got her an apartment in Los Angeles. If fell apart fast and she returned to Utah. She told people she was an international model and lived at the Playboy mansion. Her life is a pack of over the top lies and she represents the worst on the predatory Internet and especially You Tube. She claims she can read the future, see inside your skin and bone, read minds, she read Tarot cards, but not well. She claims she is smarter than anyone including psychiatrists, psychologists, all philosophers that have ever lived. She believes pancreatic cancer is caused by feelings of guilt and a coma is the spirit trying to decide whether to stay on earth. I shudder to think what she believes asbestosis is caused by. She is accountable to absolutely no one and preys on the most desperate, lonely and intellectually challenged people. She is the ultimate low brow You Tube advisor. I say advisor because she also gives advice on how to get rid of pimples, find a boyfriend and give up sugar.

[@bathsheba9581]

Teal's back story appears to be made up. She has a long history of telling tall takes dating back to early childhood, Her parents knew there was something wrong with her from a very early age. She claimed she was the reincarnation of Cleopatra and her parent's only purpose on earth was to serve her. Her very liberal, teacher parents, gave her everything her heart desired. They were over protective and tolerated any bratty behavior. She refused to do simple chores because she was too special. She was told she was "special" by mom and dad and it looks like she took it to the extreme. They bought her a horse at age 8 complete with English riding lessons. She had ballet classes and piano lessons and ski instruction to the point where she was a professional skier for some company. Don't ask me what they do. Maybe give lessons. She showed an interest in alternative medicine so her mom took her to China for a mini class in the aforementioned. She admits to being obsessed with modeling in the Chris Oswalt interview, so her mom got her an apartment in Los Angeles. If fell apart fast and she returned to Utah. She told people she was an international model and lived at the Playboy mansion. Her life is a pack of over the top lies and she represents the worst on the predatory Internet and especially You Tube. She claims she can read the future, see inside your skin and bone, read minds, she read Tarot cards, but not well. She claims she is smarter than anyone including psychiatrists, psychologists, all philosophers that have ever lived. She believes pancreatic cancer is caused by feelings of guilt and a coma is the spirit trying to decide whether to stay on earth. I shudder to think what she believes asbestosis is caused by. She is accountable to absolutely no one and preys on the most desperate, lonely and intellectually challenged people. She is the ultimate low brow You Tube advisor. I say advisor because she also gives advice on how to get rid of pimples, find a boyfriend and give up sugar.

[@klarenee1123]

My partner and I thought the EXACT same thing about the editing. I stopped following Teal several years ago due to the ego that I perceived in her work and her relationships, and disagreements with some of her core methods and teachings; but it was quite clear to me that those conversations were being chopped up in ways that were disingenuous and unfair to her.

[@BrookeYoder]

On her channel, she has a video that exposes some of their deceptive editing compared to actual footage of what happened. One in particular really struck me. The water exercise was edited to make it appear that they were essentially waterboarding people. When you watch what the actual exercise entailed, including the instructions from the clinician and the full session by one of the participants, you can FEEL the level of love, comfort, and support that they were given through that exercise. It seemed to be an incredibly powerful and healing exercise. Regardless of how anyone feels about Teal Swan, people should see what lengths were taken to depict her in this light. And hopefully, will be a reminder to everyone that everything you watch is intended to make you feel or believe a certain way and that you should always question the validity of everything you consume.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Yep. I linked that video in the description. It’s the same one where she showed the conversation with the guy and the woman from the beginning of my video

[@BrookeYoder]

@@TheBehavioralArts oh! Duh 🤦‍♀️ I forgot that you said you linked it and just had it suggested to me today (of course). Thank you for that. And also just for being awesome 👊🤗

[@TheBehavioralArts]

@@BrookeYoder haha! All good 🤗.

[@808statemusic]

❤❤❤❤

[@crossbearer6453]

Yes we should be skeptical But should also be skeptical of her

[@andrewliamintuitive]

I genuinely believe that Teal feels in her heart that she wants to help people and believes her methods can do so. After listening to Gateway and a few other videos, I get the impression that she may actually be sincere. I believe that she understands in her line of work that there will always be potential for harm but also for great benefit, just as with anything in life, and her ability to remain calm and stoic is not a reflection of narcissism, but her acceptance of the reality of living a human existence. Now was this realization reached by her psyche as a way to protect her, quite possibly. That being said, I do not follow her teachings or engage with her content (anymore though I once did about 5 or so years ago). I have no skin in the game. Purely curiosity. Seeing all of this unfold and seeing people question her because she sometimes expresses very human emotions, such as anger, is interesting in light of how spiritual texts have portrayed other spiritual figures such as Jesus flipping the table or getting angry at his disciples (I’m only using this example because of my lived experience.) Also, really makes you curious what it may have been like to experience that time. Like overall public perception versus followers and such. You know. Humans are fascinating.

[@imibee5184]

I don't believe for a second it was real channeling. Teal makes me and has always made me very uncomfortable. Call it intuiton or survival instincts or empath abilities but she creeps me out. I felt weird just watching her youtube videos even back a few years ago. She was so cold and creepy to me.

[@natashagilbert3]

I’ve never seen her before but immediately felt the same way. She feels very cold.

[@selfesteem3447]

I had heard the different pro and con opinions on her and was watching a few of her videos here and there looking for signs. Finally I came across this one video of her laughing at being a empath and putting those that are empathetic towards others, down. Then I finally saw what she's all about. In my knowledge of narcissist, I know they are UTTERLY hugely disgusted by people who are nice seeing this as pathetic and weak.

[@chantellelandon85]

Same. I am spiritual and thus KZbin has recommended her videos to me many times. But every time I see her eyes she gives me the creeps. I can usually spot a psycho a mile off

[@katarzynabukowska7377]

Yes, as an empath I have always felt these cold vibes from her. There is something disturbing in this woman and I have a gut feeling that she is not only egocentric and has quite strong narcissistic traits but this is only my opinion. She is a great teacher teaching us discernment.

[@britneyology1]

there's a video on another channel with Teal's childhood friend telling stories of their life together. Teal is a complete psychopathic narcissist with extraordinary dark tendencies. She is evil and criminal and it's absolutely obvious with very little exposure to her. Anyone who thinks otherwise has no discernment.

[@joyalexander5842]

Never heard of this person. Her ego is something else. Your analysis is very cautious. Yet it is enough for me to make my own conclusions. Thanks for that.

[@istvanpraha]

Wait…..you never heard of her but write a comment about her. Which is it

[@justhueman1413]

I went to Teal's curveball in February having only seen her a few times scrolling through my KZbin timeline. She is probably one of the most loving people I have ever met in my life. I actually went to the curveball not trusting her - not trusting anyone - and one of the people there asked me if I thought Teal wanted to help me. She asked if I thought Teal was trustworthy, I said to her what I said to Teal; "I have no reason to trust her/you and I think it doesn't matter, if I am helped that's all I care about." There was a practice that required us to open and see what was making us stuck. She asked each of us what we thought would get us moving in our lives. I told her about the conversation I had with about trusting her. And her immediate response was "How does trusting me help your life?" I don't know much about narcissism, or megalomania... but I have an inkling that this would not have been her response if her plot was to hook me into some kind of ponzi scheme. When I explained further what I was going through - She essentially said "Ah, so this will help you trust people. What do you guys need me for?" And she quite literally almost danced away. No resistance to my message, no thoughts about herself inserted into my problems. It wad the first time I met someone who heard what I said that and had a candid conversation about me without getting triggered - and that has stuck with me ever since. I'm not saying she is or isn't anything - just she didn't anywhere near strike me as narcissistic. It's hard to have conversations about yourself with a them and with her is was east breezy. Not only that, but the curveball was full of people who challenged her and she never let it go to her head. I'm only saying, don't believe the shows please, go and see for yourself what she's like. I didn't know anything about her before February, but I'm glad I met her.

[@NaikoArt]

ive seen tons of her workshops and thats the exact vibe im getting, she seems super comfortable with everyoen and also with people that challenges her, i have no clue where this people are getting this vibes that she's manipulating poeple, she's just expressing her ideas.

[@amy-lynne6172]

Your perspective rings like a Meditation bell. Well stated. Well written. Well done. Thank you for your conscious effort. 🙏

[@iamaliveyoucantstopnow]

What you describe sounds like a covert narcissist.

[@randomcole619]

@user-mk4or5yu9reveryone is at a different place of perception. The man who discovered that cleaning his hands before surgery or assisting in birth was mocked and ridiculed to the point his career was ruined and he committed suicide. He was at a higher perception than everyone else. To those that mocked him, he was a loon. A five year old won’t understand what a twelve year old will. People with low iq’s will never be able to grasp higher concepts but instead of acknowledging their shortcomings, they mock and ridicule. Don’t be that person.

[@lindahamilton3234]

There is no way that that is a legit channeling. A person who is in their spiritual self simply isn’t able to be that dramatic and negative and dark. As well, this would never be done out of love. Just plain bullshit. I’m grateful for your video. I’ve gotten some very mixed vibes from Teal Swan. And avoided her at times. You’re putting words to it.

[@marin9422]

I'm so glad I watched this. It really gives me a new perspective and an open mind when I watch something and how films can be made to look one sided.

[@TripleCrossProduct]

When one of her staff questioned her and she blew up, that is, I would say, the beginning of a cult leader.

[@hannekezijlmans6578]

Thank you for making this video. I've been following Teal Swan for a while now and many things she says resonate with me. I do also understand how people can feel the complete opposite about her, because she is quite rigid in what she believes in. I appreciate you explaining why she isn't a narcissist. People use that term for anyone who thinks too highly of themselves, but there's much more to it and I agree a true narcissist would never talk about their self doubts on camera the way she does. I think this video is very balanced and fair. While some things she does seems misguided (regained memories are usually fake and can be very harmful), she also does really help people. The video about suicide is controversial. I do understand some of the things she says should only be used within a controlled environment with a licensed therapist, but on the other hand, many people who are suicidal never see a professional and she does provide resources that do help people. I've had worse advice from therapists and doctors, with one of them even dismissing my suicidal thoughts because 'I can't know I'm suicidal because I've never attempted suicide'. Her video actually helped me, personally, so there's that. Do I think she's the Messiah? Oh hell no, and I'm afraid sometimes she does think she is, but I don't care, I just take what benefits me or my loved ones and appreciate her for that. Thank you for allowing that space for your followers, to make their own decisions and do what's best for them.

[@BarbaraMerryGeng]

Has anyone seen Teal’s video - about her own childhood w. adult cults who killed Mexican kids ?

[@angeladibble8075]

@@BarbaraMerryGeng Good point. This would have been a good addition to this video.

[@VitaminVee11]

I had no idea there was this level of “controversy” around Teal Swan. I stumbled upon her content in the last week, after years of personal deep healing work, growth and development, oblivious to her otherwise. It started with one video and turned into a binge session because I deeply resonated with a lot of she says. I found myself nodding along and feeling validated from having experienced what she talks about personally, and I love how she articulates herself. Your bang on at catching the editing around how she speaks, so kudos! Hence why I’m a bit shocked. I can’t speak to the actual therapeutic work she does and her “followers”, but I can say I absolutely appreciate her content on KZbin. And I consider myself a pretty rational person with a lot of awareness of self and others; not someone who would be easily manipulated or in a vulnerable position. Thanks for your video and due diligence. 😊

[@zhulia]

Spidey, the evolution of covering the Heard/JD trial to now deep-diving into this type of content, is massively impressive. I absolutely LOVE hearing your voice in your topic choices and just the absolute power and influence of questioning out loud, observing more in-depth and also presenting to us better ways of coming to conclusions.

[@lovelife9009]

as a social worker.. I honestly think Teal Swan is great. Why? Because in the mental health world we are not brave enough. A lot of people don’t feel truely helped. Truely understood. Peope can appreciate when you stand next to their pain, give it space and try in intergrate it again. I have worked at the high intensive care groups with youngsters who are extremely suicidal. Dening their feelings, trying to distract them from it.. isnt working. And that’s what 95% of the time is happening. We must be more brave with true trust in our intuition and be authentic.

[@theoriginal7727]

Being in despair, and even suicidal are actually very rational, and understandable reactions to a world that has gone completely insane, and having adults and elders, and society, in general intent on burning it to the ground. At least that’s the way that it looks to many of our young people!

[@Rejectcolinization]

Lord 😂😂😂😂please keep this woman and Teal away from vulnerable humans!

[@sonja7halcyon]

Wow you must have a really crap and outdated social welfare system if they've taught you to try ot deny the feelings of suicidal people and distract them.

[@flatlinedphoenix1688]

Yikes

[@deedeewhipple4668]

It hadn't occurred to me that the bureaucratic nature of government institutions might naturally produce regulated "cookie cutter" treatments for mental health. It should be obvious to me that it would be restrictive and career ending to treat outside of guidelines.

[@fractalboy8125]

There’s something I picked up from watching Chase on the behaviour panel that I think is worth adding to the discussion. When watching these clips try to determine what she is concerned about. According to me, she’s not concerned with helping these people, it’s her personal success that drives her. In that context, I can believe that she could be reckless and irresponsible as well as selling ideas that sound good but have no actual benefit. This makes her, in my opinion, a very dangerous person Also, not 100% convinced she’s not a narcissist. The statement she makes that Spidey talks about is a manipulative statement and it elevates her techniques to being an absolute. That’s also a massage for the ego regardless of how it’s prefixed.

[@shantijamilah8688]

Well said! I completely agree…good point too regarding taking note of what she is concerned with…when I observed her (these clips were the first time), I could see and perceive all she was concerned with primarily was “me, me, me!”….

[@LoveJoyPeace4612]

Her videos kept getting recommended to me and I watched a couple. I was immediately turned off by her body language, behavior and speech patterns just screamed narcissist to me and did not come across as authentic. I have a long history of being able to read people well, so I chose not to continue watching anything from her.

[@Vercanya]

I get a psychopath with communal narcissism vibes out of her.

[@Dee33636]

I disagree. I’ve worked in this field for a long time. I wouldn’t necessarily use all her techniques ( which are all combinations of other techniques that have been around for some time), but her clients are willing participants & she’s not using sleep deprivation , & other tactics to break spirit as a cult would do. She may have an ego & like things done her way, but that does not mean it’s a cult… it’s her approach that is a little more aggressive that can trigger responses so people can acknowledge , address & integrate or release painful emotions & reframe one’s trauma so they can move on. It wouldn’t be something I would try but I can definitely see how this could help some people.

[@user-jc8py7dw7r]

Excellent analysis. Thank you.

[@OllieSmiless]

Thanks for sharing your analysis with footage. I had so many thoughts as I was listening, but last footage of one of her inner circle people sharing contract clauses - that blew my mind open. One can argue any which way, but every clause in her contract is asking people to sign up for being abused, to fully dedicate their entire life to her purpose, to give themselves up for her entirely. Can't make family first priority, can't have boundaries that contradict those of Teals, wow! This was eye opening. Thank you for sharing that. This is not "she has a big purpose or ego", this is a cult-behavior with emotional abuse. What saddens me is that people sign up for it. What shocks me is that she is sitting there looking like a sad ghost shell completely oblivious to why Blake left. He has had enough of her abuse. I'm glad he left. Good for him!

[@mckaylastorms1767]

The "suicide" video is on her KZbin. I remember watching it several years ago and being rubbed the wrong way.. I have a few relatives that have died from suicide and myself and a few other relatives that have had many attempts. I've been given lots of advice from well intended people (and a few ill intended) and done many therapy exercises to work through suicidal thoughts - but that video was what turned me away from Teal Swan. I used to watch her videos regularly for years prior to seeing that one..

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Im very sorry to hear that. I can absolutely see the danger of that video being on a public forum and I’m sorry you experienced it first hand. 😞

[@user-iu3cy2tx3c]

She was using reverse psychology…. She also said basically there is no escaping your problems… if you kill yourself you just start all over with the same problems 🤷🏻‍♀️that certainly would prevent me from pulling the plug

[@ohlookitssarah]

I got to say I'm not 100% sure but if my memory serves me well I believe there was a lot of precursor that described a certain type of person that this advice was for.. and it excluded the type of person you're worried about... I believe it was for people that have never fully been to the edge but are worried about the mindset they are in evolving to _serious_ consideration of suicide. I don't know if in your mindset that would change anything but I do believe context does change the statement drastically. But again that's off of memory and my opinion.

[@psychologynerd23]

I’m sorry but that’s not ok to have that video up there like that. It can have drastic repercussions. Even if the video explained who the intended audience is for, it is not ethical. When people are in a deep emotional state like that logical thinking is difficult. In my opinion that video should be removed.

[@Helena-og7md]

The reason why I value Teal Swan is because what she has been able to overcome in her life. I believe she still suffers from that as an individual and one just have to take that into consideration. But I don't think she is dangerous. The real problem is that she brings out topics people fear and have resistance to. Your perspective on things changes dramatically when you get suicidal and intensely experience something that is worse than fear of death. I can imagine how triggering her video (it is titled "What to do if you are suicidal" kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWmZmaWbfryZp7M) would be for me if I have never been there. I understand this. But now I can relate to this topic and I agree with literally everything she says here.

[@agen2210]

The suicide video helped me in a way I feel like no other method had. After losing my husband and eldest son along with so many other stressors, I had an attempt. If someone is suicidal, they are already thinking of it. The rest of that Teal Swan video is inspiring and realistic, pragmatic and logical. I'm still not sure if she's running a cult but I would defend using other work...isn't that what we do.when we learn concepts. Schools are a repository where we learn past knowledge in every subject so why set the standard she use only her unique concepts? We wouldn't have Jung without Freud, etc.

[@se-lene]

I haven't watched her videos in a long time, but some of her ideas are interesting and can be helpful to specific people. Its about perspective. I used to like her old videos she seemed more open and lovely, now she gives me an extremely rigid vibe. I watched her video about suicide after feeling suicidal and gave up the idea and I do agree with what she said... sometimes people don't want to be told how everyone will miss them and suffer because of this , this is exactly what suicidal people don't need to be told, that their act will burden others, while their existence and mental health already is a burden for those around them...

[@karenaware6569]

Same here, I watched it multiple times during the darkest part of my life and it helped me

[@Sarachouska]

She is making money, therapist do also. And some are really expensive too.

[@stacey_1111rh]

Yikes problem is with that video that of course she’s deleted is she does say in it sometimes the best option is to reset back to source consciousness (implicating to you to commit suicide) I don’t know how any of the people who supposedly follow her work can think that is ok to recommend that to people. I used to be one of you (her followers)when I left all this behind so to speak and started to think for myself again I was shocked and horrified after doing my research and saw how dangerous a person she is

[@stacey_1111rh]

@@Sarachouska Her workshops and membership fees for her website aren’t cheap

[@TeamCadenceStamper]

Sounds like a cult to me. But how she told her employee now we have a problem, that doesn't sit well. And on her lost of non negotiables- there is no critical thinking. Not ok with that! She wants mindless followers. Not ok. She clearly invalidates feelings - that's not a healer.

[@sabrecrafted7409]

The whole list was a bit much to put it lightly, but that's the one that rose to the top for me- if your team members can't question the procedure, they're not team members - they're effectively reduced to automatons. They're just a facsimile of "you," which renders the idea of a "team" pointless.

[@user-zz4xf5mq9p]

"She clearly invalidates feelings - that's not a healer." Well said. Words reveal the speaker's ideology of the self, but actions reveal that person's TRUE deep-seated beliefs. When the words and actions are congruent with each other, that's how you know the person's authenticity.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

How can a workshop be a cult?

[@kellybrown5312]

Super interesting video. I’ve only just recently happened upon Teal and I find her KZbin videos really uplifting. But I’ve been on a soul expanding journey for a long time and can handle brutal truth. The harsh reality is that most can’t, and that’s what stands in the way of their healing

[@AScrapOfKindness]

I had never heard of Teal Swan before this video. I am a survivor of trauma, but most people would never know because through wonderful therapists and therapy, plus a very close core of caring people around me, I am able to live life fully. I made it through the video, but must say that watching and listening to her made me feel very anxious and I was shaking from head to toe. I am now heading out for a walk to center myself and put her well behind me. Thank you for the wonderful content you provide.

[@daddy7860]

Wow, based on your comment and how it reflects the direction of your thinking, you must have very good therapists and learned a lot of helpful things from them. In the sea of biased and assumptive comments, yours is different and stands out remarkably well.

[@xxqueenofdarkness]

If you watch her actual videos, they are very different from what is shown in this video. But like you said yourself, you had never heard of her before this video. On her older videos there are some great practical advices which have worked for a lot of people. I say older because usually people like her , Leo Gura etc (spiritual people), when they finish with their "normal topics for videos" they start digging further into more complex parts of spirituality which not all people would understand. I like Teal, she has a lot of knowledge from personal experience.

[@pisceananarchyvortex7223]

Teal swan has always given sor me the creeps and I appreciate this sort of neutral analysis, but I think you might not know what covert narcissists and sociopaths sound like when they talk. They can seem like the most empathic, well-meaning humanitarians when being interviewed, if it suits their situation. That's one of the things that's so dangerous about them.

[@candipill]

same

[@sweetgrasshopper]

I believe it even has its own term in psychology. It's called Cold Empathy.

[@Leprutz]

Same here. I never heard o this women when she suddenly blew up on youtube. I just couldn't stand her from the start. I have learned to always trust my guts, intuition. And my spidersenses were tingling hard. Plus what many people do not see and or understand is oftentimes she gets ask a question she doesn't like, she rates the question as bad like in this video: That is a strange question to ask. There are no strange questions. You either answer it or you have something to hide. And she did this countless times. Plus I do not like the way she looks in the camera. Something just feels weirdly off. I don't like Andrew Tate, but at least he is brutally honest about his stupidty and the nonesense he spits out.

[@sux666]

@@Leprutz I don't agree. There are strange questions to ask. Good example of such is when you try to frame someone or push some of your agenda or bias by asking in a certain way especially to a speaker in some public or recorded session. Then reaction "That is a strange question to ask." is quite relevant one. Of course you can ask anyone anything in countries with freedom of speech :)

[@Justice-tk3dr]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5eWq5ajac6Cpa8feature=shared

[@kaileyrosemahan8101]

I’m a licensed counselor, EMDR trained (still new to that practice but loving it so far!) and haven’t seen the documentary or heard of Teal Swan. I always appreciate your balanced and thorough insights! But truly, I am very concerned about this woman. SHE HAS NO FORMAL EDUCATION beyond high school, no professional licensing, and has no business at all claiming to heal peoples trauma or treating suicidality. We even have to be careful making those claims as licensed providers, because overpromising and misrepresenting our abilities is unethical. I cannot believe that her state has not investigated her for what others have been charged with, “practicing a health care profession without a license and scheme to defraud”. Unbelievable.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thank you for chiming in. Your expertise is very valuable on this topic. I agree with you, there is big potential for danger here. But I don’t want anyone to feel unwelcome here so I try to express it keeping all points of view in mind. Glad you’re using EMDR responsibility ❤️

[@alexkasper5029]

UGH YES! my therapist specializes in EMDR and other kinds of trauma processing and she would be horrified by what Teal Swan is doing! when i started seeing my therapist she hadn't started doing EMDR yet (it was a long time ago lol) so i didn't come to her to process extreme trauma. but i have ended up doing a great deal of EMDR and havening and it is so important to be in a safe environment. with my therapist usually i will be talking about whatever i am feeling or struggling with and she will have me focus in on that feeling while holding the left/right buzzers (i have adhd so the light bar is too distracting for me lol) and let my mind go where it goes, feel what ever i feel and then if i come to anything significant we will talk about that more. NEVER would she have someone go in a room with another traumatized person and relive that trauma!! 🤦‍♀ it is frustrating bc these kinds of trauma processing can really help people who have experienced extreme trauma and it is already hard enough to make therapy accessible to people who need it. people like Teal Swan who do have a larger platform are really doing a disservice by either giving people harmful advice or scaring the crap out of people who may actually benefit from something like EMDR therapy 😞

[@mldrfan]

I hope you continue with the EMDR. I’m currently doing it with my therapist (who specializes in traumatic bereavement). In Jan 2020 I found my husband dead in bed after a surprise heart failure, a month later I had to put down my 14 year old cat and oct 2020 I found my mum after having the worse stroke of her life and she died a week and a half later, leaving me with no family. Anyways I’ve been doing emdr for the past year or so and OMG it’s intense and difficult and draining…. But wow it is unbelievably helpful. I’ve brought up all kinds of childhood trauma, trauma living with neglectful parents, making connections I never would have made, dealing with the current trauma, etc etc etc. while it drains me and triggers me beyond belief, it’s changing my life!! It’s so amazing and I can’t speak highly enough about it. The practice is changing people’s lives like myself. I still deal with daily thoughts of suicide, but I’m able to function and I couldn’t for the past 2 1/2 years. It’s amazing!! I really hope you’re successful in your work :)

[@alexkasper5029]

@@mldrfan i'm so sorry you've had such a rough couple years, sending love your way

[@coyoter9691]

Her therapy retreats are apparently in Costa Rica, so she won't be charged with anything like that most likely.

[@checkurselfb4ureck]

I am alive today because of her videos. I couldnt afford therapy and was so close to ending my life so many times, but im here today.

[@auraartz5478]

There is an interview Teal did many years ago with a radio station host where she answers questions about her childhood. It is worth a watch! She was pulled off her tricycle at 6 years old to be used by a grown man as a sex slave. He was a friend of her family and picked her up from her home . No-one questioned what he did with her on there visits . This went on until she was 19 years old. At one point he even had her electrocuted and then became her savior by releasing her from the pain. She describes what this does to the mind. She was beyond traumatized ...she was tortured. This might give you a better perspective of her personality. I hope this interview is still available on KZbin

[@usernextuser5385]

Did she report this to the police. What happened.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

but how do we know that really happened? I know its an ugly question and I assure you as a woman; I am always wanting and willing to believe and support other women, but not blindly. its quite a claim. if it happened, its tragic

[@delizzy107]

according to her childhood friend, it is all made up

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

@@delizzy107 Actually, what her childhood friend said about her totally corroborates that she was severely sexually abused. The friend says she was familiar with drinking alcohol, knew porn, overfocused on sex etc at the age of 12. Those are in fact prime markers of a sexually abused child. The friend says "had she been abused she would have told me". 🤣Haha - sure. That is totally what sexually abused kids tend to do - tell their friends all about it.

[@louisvalentino5110]

Just because one has gone through a very horrific experience as a child/teen does not mean she knows how to fix everyone. Especially so many of her planets in Gemini. Yikes....

[@annafcates]

I study child development and what really caught my attention was when she mentions she wants her work to be studied by more main stream psychologists, that had me immediately think of psychologists like Vygotsky and Piaget who we now study in school because of their work. It makes me feel like that's what she wants, for her work to be studied for years to come at the expense of these people. That's just my opinion after watching this video though.

[@lisasim]

Yep! Also they both were educated, trained psychologists and then wrote and did a lot of work... What is her education and training?

[@mariamaria2751]

Wow , that's truly disturbing. For someone to self proclaim how wonderful she is. She's dangerous ..that's a dangerous person , sounds like Hitler. Ppl really are crazy to listen to her much less give her money ..common sense ppl

[@Justice-tk3dr]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5eWq5ajac6Cpa8feature=shared

[@brandystafford6914]

I personally believe that many people are just not ready to hear what Teal Swan has to say. I really appreciate this video and I agree with a lot of your analysis of her. I would like to also add, however, that her videos on KZbin have helped me tremendously. I had huge breakthroughs and have come to a certain peace in my life because of her teachings.

[@seanvanbrantegem2847]

Best video I've watched on all this. As yes, I too believe things are nuanced. Love your objectivity and fairness. Shout out from a trainee Gestalt psychotherapist x x

[@angelitepriestess1562]

The "tough love approach" adopted by any spiritual instructor is fundamentally a tactic to keep people below you, to wear you down. This can create a trauma bond with the client and the tough love coach, and/or the interrorgator. Many years ago i was spiritually raped by a "spiritual guru" I realised that in order to heal i needed to remove myself from "aggressive, tough love gurus" as the violence of language was bonding me with their energy. In our healing journey from Trauma we must find a place of loving safety, that is the first step to recovery. The second step is to find someone, hopefully a good therapist who will allow you to express your emotions and tell your story so that your story is no longer locked inside your heart.....Opening up about what happened to you will send a signal to your nervous system that YOU ARE HEARD. May all souls be blessed with healing and transformation.

[@MAzurburg]

Nice insight, indeed the tough love approach creates uncertainty and feeling we need that person to tell us what to do better

[@raijin7707]

Teil's techniques if you ask me is about not allowing people to hide from their shadows and pushing them to see what they've been hiding from and facing it head on. Imo she's the last resort teacher who's willing to tell someone to go deep into their inner self and find that thing they are hiding from and have a conversation with it. It's not for everyone but I think it's for people who have done or tried everything else. Her teachings is a trail by fire and it will test every fiber in your being, put your body in overdrive to kill a fever. Ofc it doesn't feel good to go directly into the eye of the storm but if you make it out on the other side you'll be better off knowing more about yourself than you otherwise would have if you did not do it and hopefully be healing afterwards. People healing is never easy it doesn't matter who the teacher is and people put Teil too high on a peddle stool themselves so they have to knock her down a few pegs. Not all therapy needs to be coddling, too many people are starlight up slandering her so unfairly because they don't like seeing people going through hell to shake off a fever. We need variety and different types of practices because we have a great range and a variety of people to deal with, this fixation on who's a better therapist is ridicules some practitioners will just dope you up and send you on your way, never solving the problem. People walk around with this false notion that one you find a therapist they should be able to identify what's wrong with you and fix you. 1 that's up to the person if they are actually trying to get fixed or just running and 2 if that therapist specifically right for them. No 2 therapist is the same and not all of them operate under the same school of thought and they will not tell you that in fear it might cause you to talk away. Some therapist are spiritual some are religious there are so many different schools of thought in therapy there is no black or white. Therapy is a journey so each individual has to find out which type of therapist will work for them and some are just lucky enough they run into the correct therapist on their first try so they don't have to think about what worked, why it did, who's better than who or have a false notion that you shouldn't have to change therapist to get the correct treatment. People always want an easy fix and if something does not fit their nerritive there's something wrong, now we must search for the boogyman, this is just irrational thinking.

[@Mrs.Milkins23]

I believe that some aspects of the trauma that needs to be addressed does require at least some “tough love” in order to be affective it must be applied when appropriate. However, absolutely there needs to be a balance and temperature gauging process on the practitioners part. Of course it requires a lot of emotional intelligence that most people have difficulty accessing. Objective observation without the lens of bias. True empathy is difficult and navigating through situations with someone else’s perspectives in mind is tremendously tricky. I believe that Teal Swan has done an excellent job at identifying issues with compassion without evading the responsibility or accountability of the sufferer. She calls others to be conscious and evaluate on an objective level. Being empathetic compassionate aware of hypocrisy and privileges while empowering is a difficult balance most “healers and gurus” lack. Teal is pretty good imo.

[@maxialtamirano9933]

Hi! As always, enjoying very much your videos! I have a little question: There was a phrase by Teal that caught my attention during the clip from 37:40, "What is it that I should've done to make Blake (...) love me more". Why is so important that Blake love her and not just value her philosophy ? You said that that clip (for other reasons) didn't give the impression of her being a narcissist, so what may that phrase indicate, if anything? (Sorry if I messed up with the grammar, I'm a spanish speaker and rusty with my english)

[@TheBehavioralArts]

That’s a really great question. I think she incorrectly attributs loyalty to love. I think she feels if Blake loved her more he would have never left. I think this sentence reflects a fear of abandonment from those closest to her. Great observation on your part

[@NurseRatchet63]

I’ve done EMDR for SA. It worked really well for me. Super difficult but absolutely worth it. I had 2 therapists in the room and felt totally safe.

[@olapiotrowska4228]

I am deeply impressed by how unbiased and objective you remained throughout the whole video. Very professionall- will definitely watch more

[@CharleighDawnRose]

The section on channelling the participants family members is very similar to family constellation therapy which I have done personal work with and found very helpful. Everything that was channelled to me through those sessions completely resonated and were more specific to my family dynamics than the vague conversations shown in the clips. As a therapist who works from both spiritual and psychological sides, I cam say that many of her techniques and practices used are standard spiritual healing methods which she mixes with her self led knowledge of psychology. In my journey through spiritual healing I have have practiced all of these and more. I have always found them all helpful and now use many with my own clients but as always, everyone is different and heals differently and has different experiences. This is no different than in the medical field as she mentions and the whole field of psychology could use an overhaul if we are ever to see leaps and bounds in the mental health realm. Which we desperately need. Look at the numbers of mental health cases, diagnosis and pharmaceutical prescriptions doled out by the millions. Science only gets us so far but to heal the mind, you must free the soul. That is my mantra for my therapy practice and what I base my own practices on 💫

[@menak8870]

Clicked quick because this lady weirds me out 😂. I literally know nothing about her but when she pops up every once and awhile im like weirded out and don't know why. Hope to learn something haha

[@RecreationalUseOnly]

Most people fear what they don’t understand or what they hate.

[@menak8870]

@@RecreationalUseOnly nah not me. I just have a pretty good discernment radar and something about her seemed manipulative and off for lack of a better word. I honestly get the vibe she's using the "im mysterious/mystical and special so trust me im qualified to tell you about yourself" illusion a lot of con artists use in those types of circles. I've spent too many years trying to not trust my instincts on people only to be right 99.99% of the time, and the other .01 percent just needs a little more time to be proven right lol.. I now just trust my own odds and avoid the crazies and cons when I feel it.

[@aleece4]

Yes! She give me such uncomfortable vibes that I always skip past any of her shorts and I told KZbin not to recommend her videos to me 🫣

[@nightowl2481]

@@menak8870 totally agree with you, she has always given me the creeps and I’m going to trust that feeling

[@menak8870]

@@aleece4 same here! Haha

[@melidelosincas5233]

I've seen her since a long time ago, and I never followed her even though her contents really interested me back then. But I just had this gut feeling that something either in her intentions, credibility or personality was not 100% authentic, and I think in most of your video you're able to give more pragmatism and concrete explanation on the more intuitive and subtle things one can't always explain without having your kind of experience! Great video as always.

[@mackattack701]

I really appreciate your guidance; what to look for in a therapist, questions to ask myself, how to think critically, being discerning.... all skills to apply to all of life.

[@wayneartist]

I get the sense that covering cults can be unnecessarily sensitive. I left a cult and have since been curious to understand why we join, and why most can't leave... and there is never a good cult. The positive aspects are not the worth their destructiveness. Why can't we scrutinise them more openly?

[@shantijamilah8688]

I agree! Enough walking on egg shells around them! They are dangerous. Destructive. Toxic.

[@skwerl81]

I think by the very definition, cults cannot be "good" (i.e., healthy) because they require ppl to cut family ties, give up personal boundaries, etc. In return, the cult promises leadership, close community, and healing... and I think that this promise is exactly what draws ppl in. Our brains are needs-meeting machines, and feeling like we have found a place where we can meet deeply unmet needs from childhood is a powerful thing

[@lovewwe1]

100% agree. This day and age, if you say you got out of a cult and people don't want to even shatter the illusion that they are in that said cult, you will shamed for speaking out. I commend you for speaking openly about it! It deserves to be spoken about so to save other peoples lives and not waste their years to pointless cults.

[@watzlowski]

Well. We don't want Spidey to get sued by someone. 😅

[@se-lene]

I wasn't in a wide cult but I was close to some people who kinda started an " underground " cult . I knew them before they started their cult , and I was more of an insider who had access to information those who followed their platform didn't have... most cults seek for people who are in pain, who look for meaning in their lives, people who are unwell and not so experienced in anything related to spirituality, so they are in a fresh state , willing to "learn " form these people who created the cult. People who create cults can wish to help others, but they lack the awareness of seeing how their minds are clouded by personal beliefs and bias, they end up thinking their "way" is the best and have become so convinced of this that they give themselves the idea that this is their purpose, to make others live like they do , but fail to understand how we are all different ,and if their methods worked for them , it doesn't mean it's the absolute truth and it will work for everyone. Some might have started with good intentions , but became highly delusional in the end. I don't know whi everyone else has joined a cult, but my personal experience was more of a lesson on what to avoid from now on in my spiritual journey. I was looking for someone to guide me ,since there's a lot of content online, hundreds of books on spiritual topics, so a mentor would have been helpful to tell me which book is bs and use their knowledge to help me. If I would have not been in direct contact with my mentors I would have never caught the red flags, because online they were extremely open and ok with everyone, but in private they became rigid and manipulative.

[@karmachameleon1410]

Great video! I think Teal could benefit from checking in with herself more related to her ego. And sometimes it seems her intense belief in her methods could cause her to forget they aren’t infallible. But I don’t think she’s a monster, cult leader, or dangerous per se. Seeing how the documentary edited things in such a way that actually presented lies, it’s hard to not believe that all of the footage in the documentary was distorted. I watched some of the footage Teal presented without those edits & the agenda of the documentary is more shocking than what they presented. Very malicious. The biggest issue I had was the channeling. It’s seems inauthentic. I can see how similarly role playing could be an important tool to getting closure/healing tho. I think at the end of the day, it’s important for ppl who seek council, advice, healing, etc to remember that the ppl providing those things are human. They may be advanced in many areas, but still just ppl. Take what resonates & is helpful, and discard the rest. Side note: Ppl could also apply the “cult potential” list of 5 things u mentioned & apply it to many other organizations. Evangelical Christianity as I experienced it, checked every single box. It’s a list we should all probably keep in the back of our minds when checking in/directing our own lives. I love your content (I appreciate how u never tell ppl what to think, just present info & invite thinking about the topic), and The Behavioral Panel too! Interesting & fun stuff!!

[@amandadavis-bates865]

100% I'm glad someone else recognized Christianity and not just me.

[@erlaubtundvertraut7990]

as a dramatherapist i would say, that the people who "channeled" a family situation for this women, might have actually brought in their own themes that are important for them at the moment. Play is a way of dealing with what moves us internally or externally. seems like ...what the people gave as a feedback after "channeling" where interpretations of what they percieved; coloured with their own thoughts and suspicions. this can really be disturbing, hearing that their has been abuse. thats dangerous right there and confusing if we just take everything thats said for granted

[@mekareactsandreviews3026]

My mom was incredibly abusive sexually to me my entire life, At the moment she was abusing me, I would have still sent her a happy birthday video, because when your brainwashed your brainwashed. The fact that her the crew sent her happy birthday video does not correlate whatsoever whether she's a good person or not. I don't really understand the point of that correlation, because people have loved their cult leaders and their abusers since Cults and abusers have existed.

[@namelessbrat7197]

Good point.

[@Hairy_Takoyaki]

You can't see the correlation because you've misunderstood what he was trying to do, point out the incongruency (incompatible, opposites) of the birthday videos and the overall nature of the documentary that they made. In your comparison to your situation with your mother, it wan't corelating between you (the documentary crew) and your mother (Teal) but the incongruency of, say, your mother sending you a nice birthday video and yet at the same time abuses you. Implying that you would have sent happy birthday videos because you were conditioned by your mother would imply that there is also an abuser/victim relationship between them (which there isn't) and neither is there a situation where the crew did so because they "loved their cult leader" because if they were intentionally setting out to expose a cult, the one thing they would make damn sure of is to be absolutely guarded of any mind controlling techniques work on them!

[@wandarask8444]

Reading your comment is difficult as I fully can relate, your right about perception, beliefs and control, It was a lot of internal work that I longer believe anything these fools say ,think and do . I even had departed from certain family members . Even though your comment was hard read it's sounds like you have moved forward. Love Australia

[@forensicbadassprofiling]

That's called "Intermittent Reinforcement" or Entrainment.

[@ezra7253]

If they where actually a cult and the crew was actually indoctrinated they would not have made this documentary like this. They would not have been allowed to film and be this close anyway.

[@meddy_martin]

Even my therapist has told me she has a therapist because of the line of work she's in and her personal life. I respect her for that and reminded me that she is human too. Maybe this lady should see a therapist because it seems she needs a lot of help, especially with her anger. I hope she gets the help she needs. Spidey, thank you for these videos, it was hard for me to watch but I made it through the entire thing and as always, so helpful and educational. Much blessings to you, your family and your channel.

[@anRoisinDubh]

Professional therapists have to be in therapy..in Ireland, anyway. How can you objectively help people if you can't be objective about helping yourself?

[@ohlookitssarah]

I got to say i believe that "that is crossing the line statement" was edited in and I believe Teal Swan makes this claim as well.. I honestly can't remember... I say I believe that because of the editing during those words. If someone follows me around for 3 years they're going to get a lot more than that of me being upset and speaking harshly

[@o0BlackSand0o]

My therapist told me when she started therapy and how she realised she needed it, the mind set she had gotten into. She was pointing out to me that even someone trained can end up deep in a toxic mindset before realising what is happening so I shouldn't be so hard on myself for getting toa certain point before getting help, as long as I get help. That knowledge did help a lot

[@gabrielastockler4400]

​@@anRoisinDubh

[@suzmeer5468]

@@anRoisinDubh unfortunately in the US that isn’t true. My cousin is a therapist who refuses therapy for themselves. Biggest red flag ever!

[@Wonderkell74]

The problem I had with the channeling (besides that I didn’t buy it) is that, especially with the second example…it monetises abuse in a way. It is beneficial for her that these people believe they were abused, because then they keep paying her to “heal” them! That’s a big problem for me. I would not wish the CPST of an abusive childhood on my worst enemy.

[@okatzl369]

Yes! Thank you for mentioning this - there is an influencer industry building up around trauma - Kaia Ra also has a similar story (aliens, CIA sexual abuse and trafficking). It seems like women gurus/healers have to have gone to hell to be taken seriously.

[@kaigrant88]

God my PTSD from multiple abuse types in childhood would never be something I'd wish on someone. And then imagine with channeling and then now being gaslit into false abuse and how you view everyone around you

[@okatzl369]

@@kaigrant88 that actually sounds like a nightmare. Trusting yourself and the world can be such a problem for people who have experience of abuse... i actually can't imagine how painful it would be to add in some possibly implanted or created/distorted memories. It's actually one of my worst nightmares.

[@unitynofear7758]

Super realistic review. Love the critical aspect. Imagine working with a 'professional' and being tricked into thinking your parents abused you, when they really didn't 🤥 And not from your own memory fabrication but someone acting out a ghost and then telling their opinion based on their memory of roleplaying.

[@annelienilsson4269]

I am having trouble with the channeling part, to me that makes this all feel like a big scam. I have been wishing for a while that a body language expert or behavior analyst would make a video on psychic mediums. I believe that since you have a background as an illusionist etc you can explain really well how they operate. Though I can appreciate that some people might temporarily feel better to hear from loved ones from the other side I keep wishing they'd spend their money on real therapy. I see people desperately hang on (spending money again and again on readings) instead of getting help to move on. I would really like to see you explain how these famous mediums can do what they do, what do they look for in the other persons body language and behavior that lets them know they are "on the right track" and what can we tell from the mediums own body language and behavior during these readings?

[@TheBehavioralArts]

I fully agree with this comment personally. I heavily dislike psychic mediums ESPECIALLY when they use the tricks I use as an entertainer but they use it to deceive. I hate that

[@cmp-vegan5136]

because you don’t believe it…

[@cattraknoff]

As a Christian I believe "mediums" can in fact access information which they ought not to be able to know or discern in order to prove themselves to their victims. The issue is that it isn't coming from the deceased person, it's coming from devils who were watching them and then in contact with the "medium". Dabbling with such occult practices is never a good idea.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

But you have to look at the purpose of it, from the long human history of shamanic, spiritual leaders. There is a theatric, so the audience is put into the framework that they should pay attention, and the wisdom is coming and ir is otherworldly. If what the person us saying resonates, take it. If it doesn't, leave it. Many "channelers" talk in circles. A few have things that make people feel better. It may also be just a personification of that wiser part if themselves. This stuff I just take lightly, don't give it weight.

[@OhCyrus]

@@cattraknoff lol you’re WAY OFF! No one is “Psychic” ok? This is coming from a Tarot Reader by night and an Operating Room Surgical Technician during the day. No demons control or manipulate like that. We all have a super conscious and senses. Some can access parts of our brain others aren’t able to without practice or meditation and focus. I’m not about Teal Swan. She’s def a narcissist 1,000% but we ALL have the ability to access parts of our brain that would make you question your reality. We all have the ability to tap into parts of ourselves unknown. It’s not help from demons, gods or angels. We all are made of stardust and Godlight. I’m so tired of this “I have exercised the demons” stuff. We’re animals, we have intuition that keeps us safe. We can absolutely tap into someone else’s no problem at all if practiced.

[@jasmine3655]

Very appreciative of how in depth you go in your analysis of the topics your explore. You must go through hours Nd hours of footage and it speaks to how much integrity you have. Really great to see someone with your ethics on KZbin.

[@gloriahoulne]

I love how open minded you are and how you educate others to be the same way. Research research research.

[@badadviceforfree]

People should also watch her rebuttal on her page about how they betrayed her. It's revealing. It seems like there are people she has helped and then 'sceptics' - which is just daft. If she doesn't help you fine, that doesn't make you powerful enough to declare whether or not she has value.... The arrogance of it is infuriating.

[@wondering1916]

I appreciate the more compassionate and understanding way that you review and show respect for teal as well as your own field of work. Thank you.

[@Itzyhani]

Oh my! Coming from someone who has dealt with trauma, depression, and anxiety I am soooooo happy I never ran into ppl like this during my lowest points! This is dangerous!

[@ajordan1976]

🎯 She definitely preys on people when they are most vulnerable.

[@EveofPyrite]

@@ajordan1976 no she is a good person

[@808statemusic]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@johnnycamrose8563]

Clearly not dealt with it if you think her methods are dangerous.

[@stacey_1111rh]

@@johnnycamrose8563 I’ve dealt with it. Her methods can be helpful and dangerous. So yes they can be dangerous. Period

[@carylpark7192]

At 71 years of age and having seen several psychologists, psychiatrists, 2 neuroligists 2 hypnotherapists and attended many of these types if workshops I would never recommend anyone with trauma issues to see anyone but a licensed mental health practitioner and make sure he or she is excellent. Teal Swan is a narcissistic self appointed guru messing with peoples lives.

[@sl4983]

You recommend seeing psychiatrists?

[@elinorregina]

@@sl4983 I think that's clear. Why not?

[@mysmirandam.6618]

Yes

[@Artfullycurious]

What about Pmhnp?

[@cherylstell3344]

Are you suggesting that other people who have attended school have not experienced trauma? You think that because someone went to school that they are qualified? Wow. Let’s talk about opiate prescriptions shall we….?

[@simplychristal6526]

Have you ever done a video on psychic mediums? I would love to see you do one on Teresa Caputo!

[@M.T.44]

I'm a spiritual Therapist. One of the life lessons we get is based on " discernment". Teal Swan is someone I immediately saw she's not who she claims she is. I'm delighted you did this video. Thank you so much.

[@RecreationalUseOnly]

I doubt you watched this entire video 😂

[@yellowbmblbee]

@@RecreationalUseOnly no trolling

[@Bbeiiybuz]

Since your response shows you didn’t watched the video: he’s saying that Teal is a multifaceted individual...Like everyone else. He doesn’t thinks she’s a narcissistic, she just have a big ego... so does the majority of ppl. Basically, he showed she’s just human. And humans are complexe.

[@annedr0id23]

I loved this new style of video, very well done. Even without your usual body language analysis it still had your signature critical thinking and intelligent analysis and I really appreciate the clarity it brings to whatever topic you’re covering.

[@HydiHoeger]

44:01 I have often seen lack of boundaries as a potential 6th criteria for your list. Cults require control-- losing your sense of self-- and personal boundaries inhibit that.

[@VictoryAbsolut]

Loved your video! Her videos helped me deal with something even when I was in therapy on a weekly basis and not making and progress with. She’s a human, she makes mistakes. No one person can know all things and always make the right decisions. It’s kind of like using traditional medicine and eastern or alternative medicine together. Adding in alternative medicine can’t hurt (I’m talking about something like acupuncture, there are harmful modalities imo). If she helps you, great, if not then it’s not for you and there’s something else that will work for you! We’re all different and I think that’s beautiful. Love your content! 🙌