Did a Sheriff Cover Up the Murder of Brandon Lawson?

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@synapticfreeze2189
@synapticfreeze2189 7 күн бұрын
Running into somebody where I grew up is the same as Running across somebody or randomly meeting an acquaintance or friend or anyone in general for that matter.
@sleepingisdifficult
@sleepingisdifficult 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, "totally ran into them," implies that it was an unavoidable encounter. Meaning he couldn't avoid them,or they actively sought him out.
@synapticfreeze2189
@synapticfreeze2189 4 күн бұрын
@sleepingisdifficult your not an 80's kid are you
@hopelessromantic3786
@hopelessromantic3786 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I thought that was a common way to refer to casually seeing someone you weren't expecting to. Is it a midwest thing?
@Widespread-Panic
@Widespread-Panic 14 сағат бұрын
@@hopelessromantic3786 - Nah, I was born in FL, raised in KY, lived in NE, OH, NC, SC, and now GA. That's what it's meant anywhere I ever lived.
@zendarx2
@zendarx2 11 сағат бұрын
​@hopelessromantic3786 I live in Ohio and that's the only way I've ever heard anyone use that term.
@TwilightWolf2508
@TwilightWolf2508 7 күн бұрын
So, just like with "putting the dogs up," you're misunderstanding how people speak -in the South- again. He wasn't saying he crashed or hit someone. He said he "ran into them," as in he encountered them. Example: "I ran into Bob at the store today, he was buying nachos." He was saying he ran out of gas and was walking through a field, he encountered some guys he wouldnt be able to talk things out with, and was now being followed by them. The dispatcher also misunderstood and thought he said he crashed into them, hence why he laughed when she asked about the ambulance.
@alyasfukename3355
@alyasfukename3355 7 күн бұрын
Is that a southern thing? Genuinely asking. I have a lot of southern sayings passed down from my family but grew up further north, so I'm often unaware.
@johnscustomsaws
@johnscustomsaws 7 күн бұрын
How on earth did you hit Bob with your truck while he was in line to grab some delicious nachos??? Hope old boy is alright...
@Jim-Mc
@Jim-Mc 7 күн бұрын
@@TwilightWolf2508 Can confirm, I'm from Tennessee and almost fully understand him. He 'ran into' something going on with the sheriff he misidentified as a state trooper, 'strooper' that he wasn't supposed to see. He saw him kill someone 'shot the first guy' and took off running. Or at least he truly thought thats what he saw at the time, due to meth.
@karadevlieger6560
@karadevlieger6560 7 күн бұрын
ran into means encountered everywhere not just the south.
@lynpatricia6854
@lynpatricia6854 7 күн бұрын
Not a southern thing, I'm from the northeast I've used the phrase.
@kasag37
@kasag37 6 күн бұрын
He says " im in the middle of a field, i got into a scrape with some guys that pushed me over, theres no talking to them. I need the cops" being from the south i will translate this. " im in the middle of a field , i got into a argument with some guys , there was a road rage incident. I need the cops now im in trouble. " thats why he kinda chuckled when she asked if he needed a ambulance..because at the time he did not but things were escalating quickly. If he had some trafficking charges he might have owed some money to someone that was following him trying to get there money from him...or out of him..if you have ever been in that situation you know what i mean Edit he says they were on both sides...meaning they had him boxed in..he encountered some people..im guessing when he stopped for gas. Got into a argument with them. They chased him..boxed him in...ran him off the road...got out and went after him...he got away from one of them ...but they caught up with him .
@MrDeanWeen
@MrDeanWeen 6 күн бұрын
It was his brother that went to the gas station.
@carolallison9685
@carolallison9685 5 күн бұрын
He was high and those people were made up. There was no damage to his vehicle. He probably thought it was the imaginary mexicans his wife hired to kill him because they had an argument over the dishes. I take it you haven't been around a lot of meth users before.
@hopelessromantic3786
@hopelessromantic3786 3 күн бұрын
I also hear when she says, "oh so you ran into them?" I think he says, "not/it ain't the first time." Implying, if I heard right, that he had seen these guys before.
@kasag37
@kasag37 2 күн бұрын
​@@MrDeanWeenif he ran out of gas likely he knew he was low on gas..like looking at his gas guage..his fuel light coming on...I think when he got low on gas he stopped at a station to get gas...in the process ran into someone that had been looking for him..then jumped back in his truck and took off without getting gas...with those people chasing him
@klbriceno1
@klbriceno1 7 күн бұрын
as a former meth head, I can definitely attest meth induced psychosis is a real thing. You get too high, or have been up for a while and paranoia sets in very easily.
@I-AM-Awsome-Too
@I-AM-Awsome-Too 7 күн бұрын
I would just like to add when you stated "up for a while" this usually means for several days in a row. Brandon says he was sober and not on drugs, this does not mean he had sleep. Why would you call your brother a Mother F'er for not running from the police, unless he had some delusions? Just a thought.
@TooljunkieDave5215
@TooljunkieDave5215 7 күн бұрын
Exactly I’ve been high and up for a couple days and I definitely needed a nap and a sandwich. Hot shower too. Then I’d sober up. Then ask myself why tf I was so damn paranoid.
@stunytsuR
@stunytsuR 7 күн бұрын
Paranoia was real, and scary as shit. So happy to be off that shit
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 7 күн бұрын
​@@I-AM-Awsome-Too the one and only time I've ever had hallucinations on meth I hadn't been up any irregular time or amount. It was some very wild stuff. I'm so glad that stuff didn't get me like it does others.
@PandamoniuGaming
@PandamoniuGaming 7 күн бұрын
Meth psychosis and driving down a stretch of highway at night that's known for street racing could definitely make someone think they're being chased and shot at (the thinking you're being shot at during psychosis would be due to the launch control and anti lag on every car in that area used for street racing because anti lag sounds exactly like gunshots sometimes)
@Geekylori
@Geekylori 7 күн бұрын
The really crazy thing is how people with 4 children under the age of 10 have the energy to be running around in the middle of the night.
@GrandpasRevenge43
@GrandpasRevenge43 7 күн бұрын
Drugs
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 7 күн бұрын
Could be his wife was the one who did everything with the kids.
@Geekylori
@Geekylori 7 күн бұрын
@@GrandpasRevenge43yeah meth. Just got to that part.
@Geekylori
@Geekylori 7 күн бұрын
@@LKMNOPoh yeah. I absolutely believe that’s true but she was still up pretty late answering text messages.
@DoomGoy88
@DoomGoy88 7 күн бұрын
Meth is capable of some incredible things
@michellecone6775
@michellecone6775 7 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, all of his behaviors, even calling the cops, and then hiding from them, is all typical of someone on meth.
@theredknight9314
@theredknight9314 7 күн бұрын
Clearly, this is a sign of the cryptid Methfoot.
@tylerdavis3
@tylerdavis3 7 күн бұрын
Yep. This is 100% a meth issue. I live within an hour or an hour and a half of this area, this was definitely a case of methin around.
@Richard-j3z
@Richard-j3z 7 күн бұрын
Not typical but possible
@sadtaco9507
@sadtaco9507 7 күн бұрын
He was still a person. A father. He deserved help not judgement.
@Richard-j3z
@Richard-j3z 7 күн бұрын
@@sadtaco9507 agreed
@Justin-ShalaJC
@Justin-ShalaJC 5 күн бұрын
I believed the sheriff was lying until the brother said he was on meth. I have too much experience with meth, my brother hid under the house for 4 days, saying over and over that the police were in the woods surrounding our house. No food, no water, nothing. About 6 months later, my brother stopped by the apartment i lived in and needed a place to stay for a couple days, for 2 days he stared out of the 2nd floor window onto the parking lot saying "men were watching us". Over, and over, and over, until i had to kick him from my apartment. Hes been in prison for a decade now... Meth is supernatural.
@meganthearchitectbrown1111
@meganthearchitectbrown1111 2 сағат бұрын
It made me do things I should kill myself for. I'd NEVER FKN DO THAT in my right mind. I could throw up typing this. I make myself pay, though. Supernatural, YEAH!
@mikehipps1015
@mikehipps1015 7 күн бұрын
If he was on meth then it's absolutely plausible that he was hallucinating (enough time without sleep will do crazy things to your brain, I assure you) and acting irrationally.
@LieutenantTickles
@LieutenantTickles 7 күн бұрын
He may not even have been hallucinating. He could have been seeing completely normal things (Mexicans in his neighborhood, cars following him on a road) and his insane paranoia convinced him he was being followed.
@Rapture-Asuka
@Rapture-Asuka 7 күн бұрын
How's the newspaper owned by the sheriff going?
@dryciderz
@dryciderz 7 күн бұрын
I heard it's common in their industry too
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune 7 күн бұрын
And honestly, If I had taken a substance, genuinely believed I was in danger and needed immediate help, and I got asked "are you high?" my answer definitely would not be "yes but trust me, its real" no, because I dont want them hesitating in getting me help, because _I_ think its real
@skeletor2994
@skeletor2994 7 күн бұрын
​@LieutenantTickles This 100%. If someone has family history of schizophrenia meth can bring it out 10 fold. I've seen it first hand.
@Christophercolumbo1970
@Christophercolumbo1970 8 күн бұрын
Im glad to see his story is still being put out there for others to know about and Ive been following his case since it first happened and thankful his family finally got some answers and I will always believe that the sheriff and his wife who owns the town newspaper should be ashamed of themselves.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 8 күн бұрын
A large part of this video is us clowning the Sheriff’s wife
@Christophercolumbo1970
@Christophercolumbo1970 8 күн бұрын
@TheLoreLodge Thank you for that because people need to know and I love your channel and appreciate all the work you do to make people aware of these cases.
@osirisatot19
@osirisatot19 7 күн бұрын
I don't think cops can feel shame tbh.
@Christophercolumbo1970
@Christophercolumbo1970 7 күн бұрын
@@osirisatot19 I think the majority of them do their best but no doubt we will usually only hear about the ones who dont and in this case a person is only getting help if Sheriff Mccutchen feels that someone is worthy of his help and because Mr Lawson had a history of drugs he was deemed not worthy. It really makes me wonder what else he has done or not done while in position of sheriff. Very sad
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 7 күн бұрын
​@@osirisatot19 Local police in particular tend to have "big fish in a small pond" syndrome - where they feel like they don't have to answer to anyone because much of the time, they don't.
@SelaDanae
@SelaDanae 7 күн бұрын
I’ve seen a handful of other videos about this case and thought I was pretty familiar with the details, but this is the first time I’ve heard anyone talk about the articles that were put out by the local newspaper, or that the paper was owned by the sheriff’s wife. That aspect takes this whole thing to the next level of wtf.
@mindicoyner6708
@mindicoyner6708 7 күн бұрын
This!! I'm really confused about the whole newspaper situation. It's bizarre.
@a.nobodys.nobody
@a.nobodys.nobody 4 күн бұрын
Yeah weird since, if true, is a cornerstone of the case. How was that looked over?
@JCJeffrey
@JCJeffrey 7 күн бұрын
From personal experience, I been high on drugs and thought the cops were chasing me. I parked my car, went into the field and was trying to “wait” the cops out. I was scraped up pretty badly on some construction tools left in this grassy field. Worse part, I was so high and paranoid, it felt like I was having a heart attack. I think this is what we are looking at here, except it sounds like this dude most likely went into cardiac arrest and died in the field. Especially since he passed the drug test and was starting a new job making a lot of money, you are going to take “celebration” dosage of drugs, this is what did him in.
@pandat581
@pandat581 7 күн бұрын
My medication and the w**d I smoked once triggered a paranoid episode where I also thought the cops were chasing me and I ran out onto the street in the middle of the night barefoot in winter to "escape", so I can see how he might've been feeling the same
@derekmcmanus8615
@derekmcmanus8615 7 күн бұрын
​@pandat581 I once was so tired on nightshift that I saw a figure in black standing on the other side of my desk...no drugs
@st4rd3str0y3r
@st4rd3str0y3r 6 күн бұрын
Hell, one time I took dayquil, fell asleep, and woke up with a compulsion to get in my car and drive. I told No one and drove for 2 hours away from my house. If I had encountered something dangerous, I'd be the subject of one of these videos.
@TeganWelsch-Rainek
@TeganWelsch-Rainek 6 күн бұрын
I agree something along those lines
@13donstalos
@13donstalos 6 күн бұрын
Meth is a helluva drug
@b4uc2far95
@b4uc2far95 7 күн бұрын
I’ve heard this story multiple times but I’m pretty sure this is the first time I’m hearing that the call Brandon made to 911 occurred prior to his brother or the police showing up at his truck. Great investigative work. This definitely gives me more to think about and take into consideration. Thanks brother. God bless.
@LocalLegendsBertonMoran
@LocalLegendsBertonMoran 7 күн бұрын
Thank you again for Having me on!
@lolalalia4119
@lolalalia4119 7 күн бұрын
Glad to see you on here! Love your channel. You're doing great things.
@LocalLegendsBertonMoran
@LocalLegendsBertonMoran 7 күн бұрын
@lolalalia4119 Thank You! The Lore Lodge is an amazing channel and I am very thankful/excited that they gave me a chance to talk about this case
@meganthearchitectbrown1111
@meganthearchitectbrown1111 2 сағат бұрын
You were great, man! Thanks for helping put together this awesome episode!❤❤
@MatthewsPersonal
@MatthewsPersonal 7 күн бұрын
As a former resident, when he mentioned Abiline, I knew exactly what he meant lol. There are only three towns near San Angelo. Abilene, Odessa, and the Midlands. They are convenient direction givers. Also the police are a bit corrupt in San Angelo. A few years ago a case of police abuse blew up online
@Balrog-tf3bg
@Balrog-tf3bg 6 күн бұрын
Southern rural cops are something else
@manda.watching.YouTube
@manda.watching.YouTube 6 күн бұрын
I knew what he meant too! A lot of people don’t always know which way is North, East, South, or West. And if you’re in trouble it feels safer to say a town in case the person you’re talking to doesn’t know.
@theauthenticwaffle651
@theauthenticwaffle651 7 күн бұрын
Bro's got to have many dollars judging by the amount of nickels he's collected.
@Kerryjotx
@Kerryjotx 6 күн бұрын
His high school friend should be commended for finding his location. I heard an interview with him recently about how much time he had spent (years) on this case.
@danjohnson3445
@danjohnson3445 5 күн бұрын
If there were so many people and Texas Rangers and planes and helicopters and dogs and supposedly a FLIR CAMERA WHY OR HOW DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO FIND THIS GUY
@CodyHomes
@CodyHomes 5 күн бұрын
Paranormal involvement maybe? Wanting to make sure he's heading to a morge for his next medical appointment? Maybe both?
@herstoryanimated
@herstoryanimated 3 күн бұрын
​@@danjohnson3445 Sky search is limited vs ground search, it's easy to miss things. If he died pretty much at the time he went missing, then he would be cold/background temperature so wouldn't stand out on FLIR. For the dogs, did they take them over the private land? Or just up/down the road? Something tells me they didn't try very hard on the ground searches.
@13donstalos
@13donstalos 6 күн бұрын
Okay, I just need to say this: Füm = Foom Fūm = Fume Thank you for coming to my TED Talk
@poolhalljunkie9
@poolhalljunkie9 5 күн бұрын
No matter how you say it it's still a scam.
@poolhalljunkie9
@poolhalljunkie9 5 күн бұрын
No matter how you say it it's still a scam. (If this posts twice, my bad, the first didn't show up for me)
@CodyHomes
@CodyHomes 5 күн бұрын
How is it a scam?
@orphanedhanyou
@orphanedhanyou Күн бұрын
​@poolhalljunkie9 yet it works for plenty of people?
@regulark1071
@regulark1071 7 күн бұрын
Heading out on a 3 hour drive on an empty tank is very meth behavior
@korycoleman8971
@korycoleman8971 7 күн бұрын
Lol 😂your not wrong there lmao 😂
@Kramillion
@Kramillion 7 күн бұрын
or its, 'i just got in a fight with my wife and need to spend time with family for both of us to cool off' behavior.
@Sarcypoo
@Sarcypoo 6 күн бұрын
Or undiagnosed mental health issues. ​@@Kramillion
@korycoleman8971
@korycoleman8971 6 күн бұрын
@Kramillion never thought about that,that is great point, this is why domestic abuse calls get cops hurt the most,so unpredictable and erratic,
@quarkCharm
@quarkCharm 7 күн бұрын
I’ve been fascinated by this case for years, and I have NEVER heard some of the information you all have included. You all are thorough and research so well! I always know I’ll be getting a well rounded view of a case that I can’t find anywhere else.
@a.nobodys.nobody
@a.nobodys.nobody 4 күн бұрын
Had you heard about the sheriff's wife and her FB activities?
@quarkCharm
@quarkCharm 4 күн бұрын
Nope, had not. It’s crazy it’s not popped up in some of the “deep dives” I’ve listened to!
@AJOlaks
@AJOlaks 7 күн бұрын
There is always a disproportionate chance in cases like these where the police ARE actually hiding something
@LieutenantTickles
@LieutenantTickles 7 күн бұрын
I think the only thing they’ve tried to hide is their own incompetence. Waiting 15 minutes to return a dropped 911 call is a massive failure.
@davidbiagi2932
@davidbiagi2932 7 күн бұрын
Ehhh this doesn’t seem to be an incident where the cops were involved in any way.
@Nomadicah
@Nomadicah 7 күн бұрын
Doesn’t make sense either. Why would he tell his brother at his truck to run from the cop of it wasn’t a cop that was in the field? Did he have a second cop with him that was out there in the field chasing Brandon around while his partner went to stall up Kyle?
@christophernunnally3907
@christophernunnally3907 7 күн бұрын
I can personally tell you, from doing dirty business with cops for years, that they are always hiding something… they will lie, even when there’s no need to lie… I have seen it over and over again!!!
@TwilightWolf2508
@TwilightWolf2508 3 күн бұрын
@@Nomadicah Because he was on meth
@Kuwaitisnot_adeployment
@Kuwaitisnot_adeployment 7 күн бұрын
He would have without a doubt ran his name and plates and arrested him. That reporter was full of shi+
@davidbiagi2932
@davidbiagi2932 7 күн бұрын
Not necessarily if his brother was already there when the cop got there and was talking to him and told him it was his brothers truck. Now if the cop had shown up and found the truck by himself and nobody around, then yeah he most likely would have ran the plates. Either way, it doesn’t really have anything to do with what happened. Dude was just a meth head that was probably running on no sleep and seeing shit and took off running.
@jamesball8519
@jamesball8519 7 күн бұрын
Facts
@jamesball8519
@jamesball8519 7 күн бұрын
​@@davidbiagi2932they always check names and warrants
@justinhunter9484
@justinhunter9484 7 күн бұрын
Yup... Most rural Texas cops are going to see that guy as a drug dealer with that warrant. I'm surprised they didn't tow the truck to try to get him to show up.
@MTurner504
@MTurner504 7 күн бұрын
given the "reporter" was the sherriff's Wife.....she was indeed a shit bag😂
@renoblount3555
@renoblount3555 6 күн бұрын
I can absolutely believe a guy tweaking on meth would vehemently deny being on it, get desperately paranoid, call the cops then hide from them and slur together state trooper in a panic. But unless something bit him in the field/OD, someone probably shot him.
@rumpeltyltskyn
@rumpeltyltskyn 6 күн бұрын
Can't meth cause hyperthermia in some cases? My other guess is a fall or something along those lines, hit his head maybe.
@trashcant69
@trashcant69 4 күн бұрын
@@rumpeltyltskyntake this with a grain of salt, but alcohol for example, lowers your core body temperature, as it widens your veins and arteries. This is actually the reason so many homeless people freeze during the winter. Maybe Meth has a similar effect?
@rumpeltyltskyn
@rumpeltyltskyn 4 күн бұрын
@@trashcant69 Meth, from what I’ve heard (not an expert) raises body temp significantly. Not sure by what means tho.
@rhapsody98
@rhapsody98 3 күн бұрын
In the middle of nowhere like that? I wonder if he startled the wrong rattlesnake.
@trashcant69
@trashcant69 3 күн бұрын
@@rhapsody98 they did a stream recently with the private investigator who found the remains, and he confirmed that the area is full of rattlesnakes. He does not outright state his own theory as to what happened, but also makes it clear that he does not think that foul play was involved. It’s very likely that he had a meth and sleep deprivation induced psychosis and ran into a field (that in actuality was more like thick brush and not a bunch of grass) where he was bitten by a rattlesnake and succumbed to the venom.
@SuperJimmie21
@SuperJimmie21 7 күн бұрын
Ya'll should do more true crime content. You're re really good at getting all if not most information out there.
@pandat581
@pandat581 7 күн бұрын
Agreed!
@dukeofengland
@dukeofengland 6 күн бұрын
Something very wrong with this case in my opinion, and the 911 call not even going through to the police is unbelievable,the sheriff needs questioning.
@Jim-Mc
@Jim-Mc 7 күн бұрын
"State Trooper" fits the context of pulled over, stopped, and even "shot the first guy." It's definitely possible he just misidentified them and it was a sheriff.
@joeyjohnson6322
@joeyjohnson6322 7 күн бұрын
It fits to them being on both sides and why there is no record of his call not being responded to.
@katmack4215
@katmack4215 7 күн бұрын
I've always thought he said.."shot the first guy" as well. 🫤
@sirllamaiii9708
@sirllamaiii9708 7 күн бұрын
That explains why the sheriff's wife would cover so hard for him
@branchtana315
@branchtana315 6 күн бұрын
That's what I assumed. A lot of people will default to calling any law enforcement by a certain department name if they aren't sure what jurisdiction they're from. Also when he said they're heading a certain direction "on both sides" it sounds to me as if there are at least 2 people searching for him, with one waking each shoulder of the road.
@miltondelacruz7033
@miltondelacruz7033 7 күн бұрын
New lenses? New camera? New angle on lights? The depth of field and contrast feel super tuned in on this one. Looks great.
@noskcaj117
@noskcaj117 7 күн бұрын
The unintelligible word could be stater, common slang for state trooper in some places
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 күн бұрын
Looked into it, doesn’t seem that this is common in Texas or at least this part. I could be wrong though.
@noskcaj117
@noskcaj117 7 күн бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodge you'd know better than me, I've put in exactly 0 research into Texas slang
@LieutenantTickles
@LieutenantTickles 7 күн бұрын
I’ve heard “statie” in the south but never “stater”. I’ve never been to TX though.
@gaminginanutshell7890
@gaminginanutshell7890 7 күн бұрын
I’m from the Fort Worth area where Brandon grew up and have never heard anybody use Stater or Statie, trooper is the most common phrasing.
@chadrowe8452
@chadrowe8452 7 күн бұрын
Stater hater or ranger danger ​@@LieutenantTickles
@pamsauder668
@pamsauder668 7 күн бұрын
Isn’t that a conflict of interest if she runs the paper and he is sheriff? 😂
@jmac77
@jmac77 7 күн бұрын
No
@dustinw115
@dustinw115 7 күн бұрын
Yes. Yes it is.
@jmac77
@jmac77 7 күн бұрын
@dustinw115 how is it? It's not legally conflicting. It may be biased but aren't they all?
@dustinw115
@dustinw115 7 күн бұрын
@@jmac77 Have you looked up the definition of conflict of interest? The wife of the sheriff was publishing articles while knowingly withholding details because her husband was involved in the case. Not to mention the fact that she deleted anything that was calling into question the “official narrative” and being openly hostile to anyone else that was actively looking into the case because it made her husband’s department look bad. This is a clear cut example of conflict of interest.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee 7 күн бұрын
@@jmac77 Ethically conflicting. Part of the job of good journalists is to keep a critical eye on the cops.
@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669
@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669 7 күн бұрын
Why didn't the police ask the landowner if they coild search?.. seems weird especially as the landowner gave permission immediately
@mattgraham1983
@mattgraham1983 7 күн бұрын
I agree and giving judges rubber stamp search warrants they very easily could have obtained one
@itscjhey
@itscjhey 7 күн бұрын
The idea was being tossed around a couple discussion boards that the land had actually changed owners, and that was the reason for asking again, but I never saw a source for that. I'd be interested in whether the Lore Lodge crew read the same and/or checked that out.
@Rick-w2o
@Rick-w2o 6 күн бұрын
Do they even need permission to search for a missing person that may be injured/harmed?
@juliana.x0x0
@juliana.x0x0 6 күн бұрын
@@Rick-w2o​​⁠yes. Private property generally needs a warrant unless there are exigent circumstances. Those include "hot pursuit of a suspect", destruction of evidence, or someone inside a home is suspected of being actively in danger or having a medical emergency. They'd have to have probable cause (objective facts that point to a crime being committed) to suspect that he was on a particular property, to even secure a search warrant. But without that, there's not much they can do. Private property generally has pretty good protections against searches (unless it's a car out on the roadway).
@Son-of-Tyr
@Son-of-Tyr 7 күн бұрын
This is one of the few channels of which I actually anticipate uploads. Great content guys.
@ferrisbueller9991
@ferrisbueller9991 8 күн бұрын
I'm saving my poop for when this vid is ready cant poop without my lore
@katiedaniels9803
@katiedaniels9803 7 күн бұрын
me but doing my makeup
@JuliusSqueezer110
@JuliusSqueezer110 7 күн бұрын
@@katiedaniels9803🤡🤡🤡
@1-eye-willy
@1-eye-willy 7 күн бұрын
i used to know this dude who couldnt poop without smoking crack😂
@JuliusSqueezer110
@JuliusSqueezer110 7 күн бұрын
@@1-eye-willy Did u see his crack? (I)
@lakesidesusan6745
@lakesidesusan6745 7 күн бұрын
Now, now! Children...too much info!😵
@rayumbo
@rayumbo 7 күн бұрын
I am Abilene, Tx born and raised. This case was super weird at the time and is still insane the way it all went downs
@MattL-dl2su
@MattL-dl2su 7 күн бұрын
There was also alot about him possibly being an informant, some guy who said he worked with brandon said a couple months later all the guys that worked on brandons crew got arrested
@WellplyD
@WellplyD 6 күн бұрын
Someone should ask someone that works on an oil rig. If any of the job positions on Brandon’s crew have a name that sounds like that muffled word.
@MNR_Bois
@MNR_Bois 7 күн бұрын
Meth, especially when it’s been out of your system for awhile, can come with some extreme paranoia and confusion. I’m guessing he took a bit too much after being sober for a while for the new job. Still sad to see his call for help simply ignored.
@PrincessNicEssus
@PrincessNicEssus 7 күн бұрын
Wish you would have put up a map showing where his truck and body was found so we can see the correlation between the two. Thank you!
@karencski711
@karencski711 7 күн бұрын
And also where the bridge is.
@PrincessNicEssus
@PrincessNicEssus 7 күн бұрын
@ Oh very good. Yes, please?!
@MarthaAccettullo
@MarthaAccettullo 3 күн бұрын
Yet another great story . Thanks Lore Lodge . You're the best .
@jmpolicare
@jmpolicare 7 күн бұрын
Could "ran into" mean encounter when referring to the people chasing him (Brandon)?
@raucousreg9064
@raucousreg9064 7 күн бұрын
That's what I thought.
@HiFiAwardTour
@HiFiAwardTour 7 күн бұрын
He was hallucinating, his brother admitted he was high on meth.
@calebchristensen900
@calebchristensen900 7 күн бұрын
This whole thing is giving me the same vibes as the Thomas Brown case in Hemphill County. Teen was out driving and went missing. And the county sheriff was for all purposes covering up his disappearance and apparent murder I believe. Last I remember the sheriff was investigated by the Tx Rangers and arrested for either tampering or negligence.
@DancingThunderbird1003
@DancingThunderbird1003 3 күн бұрын
Nathan Lewis the shady sheriff at the time was not arrested.
@calebchristensen900
@calebchristensen900 3 күн бұрын
@ then what happened? Somebody was arrested and indicted I thought?
@genomills9
@genomills9 7 күн бұрын
I remember reading about this case a year or so after it happened. You've provided a ton of facts and context that paints it in a different light. Thank you for covering a case that's always bothered me. Hopefully it helps in getting it solved
@michellerutherford9551
@michellerutherford9551 7 күн бұрын
This story has stayed on my minds for years,something rotton in the woodpile.
@HiFiAwardTour
@HiFiAwardTour 7 күн бұрын
His brother literally admitted Brandon was high on meth and ran off.
@katmack4215
@katmack4215 7 күн бұрын
I remember this story and I've watched quite a bit of coverage about Brandon..🥺 Hearing about this family's struggle,and Ladessa spending all her money on searches,is heartbreaking. I only just heard about the updates in this case,legit a couple months ago..😲 I couldn't believe it!! Blessing to that land owner for permitted the searchers on property. I'm so glad for Brandon's family,this movement on his case is tragic,but they already knew..at least maybe now they can find some peace,and have some form of closure. I've never forgotten about Brandon,or you guys..❤
@rigid73able
@rigid73able 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely could have called the cops to put them on the dudes he was scared of giving him a chance to get away.
@xSouthWindx
@xSouthWindx 7 күн бұрын
21:40 i think it is scraper, as is a lowrider car. He also mentioned hispanics, which would make sense
@secretagent5954
@secretagent5954 7 күн бұрын
well thats just blatantly racist 😂
@davidbiagi2932
@davidbiagi2932 7 күн бұрын
Ain’t no way that’s what it meant.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 7 күн бұрын
There's a lot of Spanish-speaking people in Texas. The mention of "Hispanics" is not at all strange. I'm not sure there's a ton of "Lowrider" subculture in that particular part of Texas, however. I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression it's a very localized phenomenon. Frankly, the way they were introduced into the story by his brother almost seems like an intentional misdirect.
@xSwordLilyx
@xSwordLilyx 7 күн бұрын
​@@fuzzydunlop7928I think he was passing on his high ramblings/ possible clues. His ranting about people who seem to not have been there is obviously a clue to me
@WellplyD
@WellplyD 6 күн бұрын
Someone should find out or ask someone that works in an oil rig. If a position in a crew has a name that sounds like that muffled word.
@TeganWelsch-Rainek
@TeganWelsch-Rainek 6 күн бұрын
The only thing that bugs me about this case is the cops didn’t reach out to the landowner originally. They made assumptions Brandon left the area. There’s no excuse he could’ve been found way quicker possibly alive.
@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD
@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD 6 күн бұрын
Name your new channel "Tartarian Truth Troopers" Guaranteed engagement
@coltthompson8111
@coltthompson8111 5 күн бұрын
Dad advice. If you are going to pick up someone you think is mad and on drugs. Do not bring your wife and child!
@brooketeegarden2303
@brooketeegarden2303 7 күн бұрын
I would check for a family history of Schizophrenia. If he and his brother both used the same drugs from the same source that day then a bad batch is out, but assuming he didn't get kicked out again that night for using again (make sure she didn't touch my stuff) the paranoia and delusions of meth psychosis only last a couple hours for most people. If there is underlying existing mental illness, or dormant genetic propensity for mental illness like schizophrenia (he's a bit young but 26 year old male, stressed oil-worker dad of 4?) can intensify it and make it last days and likewise meth psychosis could help trigger a first schizophrenic episode. I think a better interview with his common law wife on what she meant by how he was tweaking that night and why she kicked him out might shed a lot of light.
@flingonber
@flingonber 7 күн бұрын
I don't think there's any evidence of schizophrenia, but he wasn't young for onset, in fact he would be a bit on the older side. It usually develops in men in their late teens or early twenties. It has a later age of onset for women (mid-twenties to early thirties, typically).
@PackRatManiac
@PackRatManiac 7 күн бұрын
​@@flingonber Maybe bipolar disorder. The meth could have triggered a manic episode and those can take a few days to a week for the episodes to pass.
@alexanderchippel
@alexanderchippel 5 күн бұрын
The fact that in Texas law enforcement isn't legally required to notify you that you have a warrant out for your arrest is absolutely psychotic.
@jmac77
@jmac77 7 күн бұрын
Former meth addict here. Being paranoid of someone chasing you is common. Seeing shadow people moving in the dark (or daylight) is common. I feel so badly for his family. He is still out there somewhere, probably a lot farther out of the search perimeters. No one has found hos bones yet. I hope they do so his loved ones can have closure and guve him a proper burial. Love the channel ❤️
@BloodSaintPluto
@BloodSaintPluto 7 күн бұрын
his bones were found
@brentbair8231
@brentbair8231 7 күн бұрын
In the video they said they did find his remains
@jmac77
@jmac77 7 күн бұрын
@@BloodSaintPluto oh ok! I didn't realize! That's good
@dionysus6892
@dionysus6892 4 күн бұрын
I like how Archie sits in Aidan's lap like a throne lmao. Refined, Dignified
@turtlesonparade2977
@turtlesonparade2977 7 күн бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. Good job on this case, I had no idea about the brother's side of things.
@TrueCriminwithT
@TrueCriminwithT 7 күн бұрын
OMG how can they get away with publishing false information????
@Mulepetter-y1t
@Mulepetter-y1t 7 күн бұрын
Small town. Who's going to call them on it?
@TrueCriminwithT
@TrueCriminwithT 7 күн бұрын
@Mulepetter-y1t corruption at its finest. Speechless
@thezackast2752
@thezackast2752 7 күн бұрын
As long as they can't prove it was purposeful, which can be very hard, then it's protected by freedom if the press iirc
@magical8013
@magical8013 6 күн бұрын
Have you not seen the media lately it's everywhere
@DoubleDguitar
@DoubleDguitar 7 күн бұрын
I found a dime today, so there’s that.
@zacharysnyder2520
@zacharysnyder2520 7 күн бұрын
As someone who has experienced addiction and known many who have been addicted this sounds very much like a drug induced paranoid episode. Kyle believing his brother wouldn’t do these drugs around his family is a symptom of the family of an addict wishing upon hope that their family member is doing better than they actually are. I think sad to say this is a simple case of a man losing sanity to drugs and dying alone in the woods.
@Dubhain
@Dubhain 6 күн бұрын
Tripping absolutely means high on meth where I am.
@karastired
@karastired 6 күн бұрын
I'm from around Abilene and this case has always bothered me. Thanks for covering it!!!
@samygirl3113
@samygirl3113 7 күн бұрын
(6 min) Just FYI, common law marriage in Texas has nothing to do with how long you've lived together. That would lead to a lot of accidental marriages. You just have to live together and present to others that you are a married couple. Basically, just file your joint taxes and viola! Married!
@joyslabaugh8286
@joyslabaugh8286 Күн бұрын
Thank you, for your thoughts and work you put in. This, case in particular is so egregious. His, poor family. Looking forward, to updates of your findings, in his case.
@andrewkelley9405
@andrewkelley9405 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely despicable from law enforcement.
@haliensexist
@haliensexist 4 күн бұрын
You really have become one of my favorite comfort channels. Im sick in bed and this is helping me stay distracted. Thanks for the awesome work you do!
@joanysohayda7233
@joanysohayda7233 7 күн бұрын
I have to say I appreciate how in depth with facts n research u make sure to include in ur videos. More channels should do that so thanks for not doing lazy research like the rest of them. I really appreciated this diligence in ur video about marv heymier the killdozer guy. That's the best video an fullest explanation of the events n facts that there is anywhere online or in documentaries. I also like that u include all escpects an angles n pov. Thanks again for ur hard work n research n I can trust when I watch ur videos that the info u give is always only factual. Kick ass guys...
@roaldpage
@roaldpage 6 күн бұрын
Meth psychosis includes hallucinations, and paranoid delusions. When she said tripping she may have meant it literally.
@georgeholloway3981
@georgeholloway3981 7 күн бұрын
It is unbelievable that the land in the vicinity was not searched. They found remains very quickly within beginning the search.
@JuliaStJohn-t2t
@JuliaStJohn-t2t 15 сағат бұрын
I know it’s still ongoing but just last September 22 year old Austin King went missing in Yellowstone National Park and nobody has found anything at all.
@macy1914
@macy1914 8 күн бұрын
I think he jumped in his vehicle enraged and hurt from the argument with his wife and knowing he had a 3 hr drive he took way too large a hit of drugs. His behavior may have been an over dose response. Hallucinations , panic, confusion. Inevitable death in a close field
@AntoineC.FerbosI
@AntoineC.FerbosI Күн бұрын
Thanks for the story. Very interesting . GOD bless us all.
@LieutenantTickles
@LieutenantTickles 7 күн бұрын
I’d assume he was tweaking and paranoid, then ran off and got lost. Then the sheriff realized they completely fumbled the ball and had his wife run defense for him. Sad story that could have been prevented.
@Samanta-van-laar
@Samanta-van-laar 6 күн бұрын
How can you get lost in your own town
@fatherted776
@fatherted776 6 күн бұрын
It happens. Ive been lost countless times because I took an alternative route out of my normal work-bar-home path.
@malevolum.hominem
@malevolum.hominem 15 сағат бұрын
I’m a little bit surprised, Nobody considered the possibility that it was somebody impersonating a state trooper as opposed to a genuine state trooper. Especially since the cartels are known for that type of deceptive behavior.
@teresanovotny2876
@teresanovotny2876 7 күн бұрын
You do a really good job with these. Love your content. ❤
@Orpilorp
@Orpilorp 7 күн бұрын
Hello! Having neighbors who have destroyed their lives with meth, I would suspect he was hallucinating. 😢 Some drugs affect people in different ways. He might have had a kickback from an earlier time, especially in a panicked state. I was given morphine one time, after surgery, and had demons coming after me if I closed my eyes.
@joasok3642
@joasok3642 7 күн бұрын
Yes but he is dead,so he wasnt hallucinating
@inamv873
@inamv873 7 күн бұрын
just got back from the bar after crossing a bridge over a large river. needless to say i didnt get smiley killed.
@meggreen4058
@meggreen4058 7 күн бұрын
Unfortunately his behavior screams meth hallucinations and irrationality, which we know he was on according to his own brother at the very latest a couple days before he vanished; and I don’t believe that he was sober like he told his brother that night, drug users lie all the time. And for the theory that the sheriff’s office killed him, prove it, what evidence is there other than that a deputy was there, it isn’t odd that he pulled over for a truck on the side of the road and obstructing the highway. I’m not saying it’s completely impossible, but genuinely what evidence is there more than speculation? I do the think the sheriff office was embarrassed that they badly handle this situation, and that’s why the sheriff’s wife was lying to make it seem not as bad as it was, still gross to do, but hardly a case for murder.
@dandrummond9154
@dandrummond9154 7 күн бұрын
I feel like people don't understand how our memory works. It is incredibly counter-intuitive, after all. The more often you think about something, the more likely it is that you don't remember it properly. We work like a telephone game with ourselves. Remembering something once from a long time ago for the first time in a long times, you are more likely to be correct. Over thirteen years of telling the same, it is not unreasonable to expect memory drift.
@lakesidesusan6745
@lakesidesusan6745 7 күн бұрын
Oh yeah! Friday afternoon, Lore Lodge & a cocktail!😍
@FrankThe77Tank
@FrankThe77Tank 7 күн бұрын
He was hallucinating on drugs because he said his wife had Mexicans chasing him (which wasn’t true) & she said he was tripping…
@davidbiagi2932
@davidbiagi2932 7 күн бұрын
As Aiden said, her saying he was “tripping” didn’t mean in the literal sense of tripping and was just acting off/weird.
@FrankThe77Tank
@FrankThe77Tank 7 күн бұрын
@ He said he didn’t know what she meant. He was assuming.. & he said his wife sent Mexicans after him which didn’t happen. So what do you think is happening after he went to pick up drugs? Common sense..
@peshkybee7721
@peshkybee7721 7 күн бұрын
Well heck. Don't need ya getting another nickel so my ass certainly isn't gonna be answering their phone in sketchy places....
@infamousinjun
@infamousinjun 7 күн бұрын
Well, as a former tweaker, I can't see myself ever calling the cops on myself, however, if I did, I would probably rethink interacting with them once I knew I had a family member as a second option for safety
@TooLegit2Quit84
@TooLegit2Quit84 5 күн бұрын
This case has always fascinated me. I've never thought he was saying he literally ran into someone.
@nickcangiarella7042
@nickcangiarella7042 7 күн бұрын
The new Lore Lodge video is here, the new Lore Lodge video is here!!!
@davidsavage5630
@davidsavage5630 7 күн бұрын
Saying he ran into someone might not mean his vehicle made contact with another vehicle. He might have just meant that he encountered someone....he "ran into them." Like saying "I ran into my sister and her husband in Walmart and we chatted for a bit.." Just speculating....but that's how us Texans/southerners talk. And yes, his behavior does strongly seem like he's on a stimulant..
@deborahd7171
@deborahd7171 7 күн бұрын
He saw something he wasn’t supposed to or someone thought he had.
@davidbiagi2932
@davidbiagi2932 7 күн бұрын
No, he just died after exposure and lack of food water and being a meth head. Nothing shows or says or hints at there being foul play. Just a meth head who had been up too long seeing shit and thinking people were after him and took off in the woods and probably got lost and died.
@deborahd7171
@deborahd7171 7 күн бұрын
@ “He was just a -insert drug of choice-head” comes across as the typical law enforcement comment when obfuscating investigative failures. It’s cliche cover for corruption. We’ll have to see what comes of the forensics but that area is no stranger to cartel activity.
@anthonysaucedo9440
@anthonysaucedo9440 6 күн бұрын
I live in San Angelo and I’ve never heard of this case before this is absolutely crazy
@MattL-dl2su
@MattL-dl2su 7 күн бұрын
The "staper" is due to them sloppily editing out "state trooper"....the fact that its edited changes that whole 911 call...hes also def. With atleast one other person who you can hear say a few things including the "yeah" when she asks about the ambulance
@MattL-dl2su
@MattL-dl2su 7 күн бұрын
Another thing is that call came from a recording of the call that the police gave to his wife on a CD which she then recorded and gave to the news channel or whatever..so its a recording of a recording of a recording...
@davidbiagi2932
@davidbiagi2932 7 күн бұрын
Stop it. Thats dumb as hell to think the recording was edited. Dude was running by the sounds of it and just out of breath most likely just mixed his words together for state trooper. The most likely scenario is he was high on meth, had been up for a while, started hallucinating and ran out of gas, and shit just went downhill from there.
@MattL-dl2su
@MattL-dl2su 6 күн бұрын
@davidbiagi2932 its notdumb...ITSNOTDUMB! *GNASHES TEETH*
@RockinIan121
@RockinIan121 5 күн бұрын
It sounds like he says "I'm in the middle of a field, got into a scrape [with some] guys [that] pushed me over. No talking to em, they chasing me into the woods. I need the cops"
@montananerd8244
@montananerd8244 7 күн бұрын
Aiden: new case developing near Billings MT that may be of interest, out in the countryside, victim called 911 after being fatally wounded, but passed before info could be given, just out in the open fields. If it turns into anything, might work into your trip, depending on if u fly into bozo or billings. Yeah bozo is prettier and it’s what people think Montana is, but billings gets *weird*. Not like cutesy Austin-Portland-missoula, like kinda scary & spooky even tho I’m a skeptic mostly. Also pls do not be including the story of the people who should not be named this summer, the mythical ones (I’m sure you know what I’m talking about but just 🤫); it’s bad mojo, the Crow/Apsaalooke & Blackfeet both say don’t speak on them, esp when you are in Crow country & a very spiritual part of their former nation. Who knows what is going on, ofc it’s fascinating, but it ain’t our business til we are invited in. Land acknowledgement means nothing without true cultural respect. Thank you!
@eyegnieesllA
@eyegnieesllA 4 күн бұрын
Just a small note, "Tripping" can refer to any type of high. I've actually heard it used for meth specifically in my neck of the woods.
@RETRIBUTION_TIME
@RETRIBUTION_TIME 6 күн бұрын
In Texas, "ran into" doesn't mean a traffic collision. If I see you at the grocery store and we speak, I will tell people I ran into you at the grocery store
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 6 күн бұрын
It can mean the same where we’re from, but the context indicates he hit them
@dewdonuts
@dewdonuts 7 күн бұрын
Hearing my favorite KZbinr talk about a case involving my hometown San Angelo is extremely jarring, like seeing your name in a math problem at school
@juliana.x0x0
@juliana.x0x0 6 күн бұрын
I feel like that's subjective, based on your name. I feel like that would apply to people with more unusual names, but I feel like people named "Tom" or "Bob" get pretty desensitized to it over the years 😂
@Tully_23_32
@Tully_23_32 7 күн бұрын
This case has bugged me for years, even where his remains were found that was close to the road. Someone knows in that group, whether the coppers or the family but something don't feel right with the stories everyone's told at all
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 6 күн бұрын
Pretty weird indeed. Let's see if any tests come out.
@sirAlextheflatulent
@sirAlextheflatulent 7 күн бұрын
When I heard texas Rangers I thought "why would they call a baseball team..." 😂
@JamesHarden-di7zi
@JamesHarden-di7zi 7 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va
@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va 6 күн бұрын
Should have just called Chuck Norris!
@Justin-ShalaJC
@Justin-ShalaJC 5 күн бұрын
Sheriff 'Finds' the vehicle Sheriff - "Welp, heres the truck i checked its clean. Observer - "Definitetly xhecked all of it?" Sheriff -"Absolutely clean, a bit of blood... I mean mud... Needs to be cleaned up though"
@devinjones1527
@devinjones1527 7 күн бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time I've buried a cat thinking it was one of my Familiars that got ran over, only to have said cat walk up onto my porch like nothing happened, I would also have 2 nickels, and it's REALLY WEIRD that it's happened twice. (Edit) Also, I don't want to bash the guy cuz it's not like I know anything about him or what happened that night, but I will say from personal experience that trying to connect the logical dots of someone acting under the influence of meth is virtually impossible. Source: my mom married a meth-head she met on the side of the road and we are STILL finding evidence around her house of whatever was going through his mind at any given time.
@dyamonde9555
@dyamonde9555 7 күн бұрын
so what, you just buried two random stray cats?
@rainydaze1313
@rainydaze1313 7 күн бұрын
???
@DuckDodgers69
@DuckDodgers69 6 күн бұрын
​@@dyamonde9555pet semetary
@fishymacaroon6
@fishymacaroon6 2 күн бұрын
Kind of surprised I hadn't heard about this case before. I used to drive through this area very regularly, and it's among the reasons I almost never let my truck get below half a tank when on longer trips. Didn't take this stretch of 277 often, I'd take sole back roads off 158 to go between Ballinger and Sweetwater. No gas between them.
@NeptuneTart
@NeptuneTart 6 күн бұрын
Would you consider covering the disappearance of Shaun Ritchie in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, on 31 October 2014? It's been 10 years now since he went missing.
@kevinsiscoe
@kevinsiscoe 5 күн бұрын
I think the most plausible explanation is that while he was out of town, he went on a bender. Upon his return home, he got into the fight with his wife who described him as "Trippin" (Absolutely something that can be used to describe the psychosis effect of meth) which caused him to leave. Still high and also paranoid (another common symptom of long-term meth use) he made several calls before running into the woods, at night, and without a light, and fell in a way that ended his life.
@audibjornsson6107
@audibjornsson6107 8 күн бұрын
Ugh i was excited i thought you were on now lol....18 hours?? Ill be back
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 8 күн бұрын
Sorry sorry we’re in a trail shelter on the AT so I had to get it scheduled early haha
@audibjornsson6107
@audibjornsson6107 8 күн бұрын
@TheLoreLodge that's awesome! Have fun, be safe guys!!
@ShekinahGwaii
@ShekinahGwaii 8 күн бұрын
Haha! 😅 Life. Getting in the way of things since Day 1. 😂
@DaKaeya
@DaKaeya 5 күн бұрын
I'm more surprised that you didn't know "trippin' out" was a thing .
@Dan82W
@Dan82W 7 күн бұрын
Sounds like dude was experiencing meth psychosis and ran off, fell in the River or just dies of exposure somewhere. Said he got meth 2 days before. The drugs could have been gone and he could have believed himself sober but being far from it.
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