10 Things Men Shouldn't Wear in 2024 (or Ever)

[@BrockMcGoff]

Couple of clarifications: 1 - Yes, I agree that v-necks make great undershirts 2 - You could argue that most watches are "homages" in some way...okay, fair point 3 - Yeah, John Wick wears all black. But are you John Wick? 4 - Black shirts are fine as part of a uniform (musician, clergy, valet, etc.) 5 - Brown is an underrated color in menswear 6 - I'm adding oversized watches to this list 7 - And bowties 8 - Buy my style course - kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM

[@jasonwest9425]

Well I was going to make point 1, but you stole my thunder. But while I'm here, you're wrong about Jersey's. As long as it is for watching the game. Otherwise great list.

[@RonnyJimenez1]

Ok, I'm here to make a case for the V neck, I wear them for comfort, as the crew neck has always felt uncomfortable to me, adding stress to my lower neck, Does that give them a pass? Curious to hear your thoughts

[@BrockMcGoff]

@@RonnyJimenez1 function over form, always. So I say comfort is king!

[@robertg6431]

Bow ties definitely look horrible unless it's part of black tie attire of course. One thing I would add to the list that unfortunately seems to be trying to make a come back...pleated pants. Sorry Instagram influencers and nostalgia dandies, pleats still don't look good.

[@Socialcriticguy]

You’re as funny as you are right

[@MrKronosX]

I didn't know those sweater shirt things existed and I was a happier man not knowing.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Some things you can't unsee. I'm sorry 😞

[@sinabagherisarvestani8924]

what is a homage watch ? @@BrockMcGoff

[@sinabagherisarvestani8924]

4:57 , dude I wear long baggy shorts that go past my knees , I think its cooler and more appealing than regular shorts that make you look like boy scouts

[@sinabagherisarvestani8924]

I wear long baggy short with a football jersey , its fine , it goes well with a football jersey , its not a outdated fashion trend , its both comfortable and perfectly in style @@BrockMcGoff

[@moxopal5681]

how do you even iron that thing

[@floydhayes]

"Parkour at the airport" - spat coffee out my mouth literally...such a trope....

[@xenofyl1]

Hahahaha that was hilarious!

[@johnjohn-rj7gh]

Really, is is such a "trope", you Gen Z turd?

[@DM_Curtis]

Like OJ in the Hertz rent-a-car commercials.

[@461oceanboulevard]

brother had a reason....

[@TurnStyle72]

Me too! That was hilarious! 😂

[@JaxWatchesandEDC]

As a first responder, I can assure you that cargo shorts are needed

[@billb6886]

If you are overweight and need to carry a gun, they are great. On me, they're like wearing a mumu. I guess cargo shorts are easier to cut off in trauma, as you can get your scissors in there better.

[@rg1809]

??? Not by me they're not.

[@calebmills2345]

I actually dig the departure from your normal content with the tone of this one. Really fun seeing another side of your personality here. Also, I couldn't agree more with this list, except for the jersey one, because when your 3 year old son loves the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe burrow more than anything and asks you to wear a Joe Burrow jersey to play football in the house, you wear a Joe Burrow jersey and play football in the house.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Thanks! I love that you support your son like that. I'd do the same thing (although for me, it'll probably be letting my daughters paint my nails 💅).

[@MartinParnham]

I wear soccer (football) shirts as the game is massive over here and there are certain contexts where it's acceptable. I sometimes wear one at home if I'm just going to be around the house or doing stuff in the garden etc. Obviously, wearing them to a game is fine or on holiday/at the beach if you just want a top to throw on (especially if you're like a lot of Brits and you toast just by talking about the sun). I do see loads of guys wear football shirts in public and although I love the game I'm just not a fan of wearing them as every day clothing. I do have a polo shirt with a small badge of my team on the chest and that looks way better.

[@tomault3063]

In the house, ok. But not in public.

[@skillen19]

@@MartinParnham honestly football shirts are having a moment and there are a lot of celebrities wearing them lately. I do like to wear one or two but it's a hard look to pull off without looking like an overgrown child. Special mention to Mexico away shirt 22-23 though.

[@ianworthington2324]

Keep your hands off my cargo shorts! Great for carrying wallets and phones safely in the city. And I use V neck tees as undershirts, usually with collarless shirts which show off a crew and look bad.

[@tonywagner4836]

Crap, I finally completed my collection, and now I can't wear them?

[@patoruairc]

I bought an pagani omega tribute. It fits in with my philosophy. You should not own something that you will worry about sitting on it, losing it breaking it.

[@mellifluousfable]

I agree. I have some too and for me, it’s due to the fact that A) I could never justify spending several thousands on a watch even though I can ‘technically’ afford to do so. B) if I did, I would be mugged within the first few weeks where I live. So, if anybody wants to hold me up for my homage.. they’re welcome to it!

[@luisalejandroacuna9879]

Yup. Pagani Daytona here!

[@silluete]

I love my cargo shorts. This is the hill i'll die for. Anyway nice video.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Keep it real, brother 🤜🤛

[@lovemadeinjapan]

Get them in the ladies department. Those are 1) not over the knee, 2) not over the top baggy, 3) have a proper rise so you won't show butt-cracks. See them as well dressed cargo shorts.

[@ILikeWhatILike69]

I like cargo everything, shorts, pants, etc. Where else I am going to store my lint? /s For real though I just like the extra pockets in case I need them

[@DocBuzzkill]

V-necks are great if worn as undershirt for oxford shirts. For protection and avoiding yellow stains in the armpits. And when you pop open one or two buttons, the v-neck doesn't show. Would you agree on this?

[@BrockMcGoff]

Totally (see my pinned comment)

[@mtlicq]

That's really what v-necks are for.

[@PjPerez]

Yeah, that's where they belong. Underneath and hidden (I literally have a dozen of these for this sole purpose -- also cuts down on my dry cleaning bills).

[@redhedkev1]

Yup!

[@TheIronDuke9]

The yellow stains are caused by the salt in your pit sweat oxidizing the aluminium in the deodorant. Switch to aluminium-free deodorant and the yellow pit stains are gone forever

[@shyrusangoluan5509]

buying an outfit with no large logo today is like going unsearchable on google and i love it,

[@akmalneedssleep]

Calling hybrid dress shoes the "corporate branded performance polo of foot coverings" is the best take of the year so far. Brock, your video quality has gotten a lot better since a year or 2 ago! I like the lighting choices (that sneaky yellow-orange lamp is a nice touch), and the 2 camera angles really help your story telling. You've got really refreshing takes and they aren't laced with any of the posturing of the "real men don't do that" attitude. Excited for more!

[@BrockMcGoff]

Thank you! I appreciate you noticing the upgrades. I'm trying to focus on stronger writing and more interesting production. Glad you noticed and more to come 🙏🏻

[@Terranova0]

Aside from backpacking, this is the only other proper use of these shorts/pant.

[@bartderuyck]

"The mullet of men's footwear": love it! Great list.

[@Mentis-de]

The mullet that is a thousand times more healthier and comfortable than these stiff and hard classic dress shoes...

[@damonjabbari9397]

I agree with Brock's take on these hybrid shoes but I personally think they look great with jeans ...never with a suit or dress pants but with jeans or casual pants is 👍 in my book

[@Jungla694]

@damonjabbari9397 I think Gronk and others wear these with suits on the Sunday halftime shows.

[@damonjabbari9397]

@@Jungla694 yup they do and I personally think it looks really bad

[@legoresources]

@@Mentis-de not true at all. Get better actual dress shoes. Consider a vibram sole or heel

[@edgarlujano9261]

"Playing sports yeah, watching them..." This was the line that got me to subscribe sir. Completely agree. Great list of dont's! Top notch.

[@charlescharles9625]

Everything is on point, however, there's an exception with cargo shorts. I wear them when I am on my sailboat, pockets are perfect for all the items needed when sailing.

[@charlescharles9625]

@@johndong7524 Good observation.

[@KlausKokholmPetersen]

My better half always complains about my cargo shorts, but has no problem filling up the pockets with phone, keys, sunglasses etc.... 🤣

[@charlescharles9625]

@@KlausKokholmPetersen My point exactly. I am keeping the three pairs I have.

[@silverfox9267]

@@charlescharles9625 I mainly use them for walking the dogs. I am not taking a rucksack with me for that. But I guess he would agree that all of our mentions are not "dressing" up, but usefull for our hobbys

[@tomhext1229]

I'm a house painter and I love cargo shorts.

[@parnpichate]

I like V-necks as long as they aren't too prominent. I think body type has a lot to do with what you can get away with.

[@juanitotucupei]

perfectly said, I agree. In fact, I'd say that v-necks with a very moderate subtle dip in the neck line, looks even better that crew necks.

[@appalachiangunman9589]

⁠@@juanitotucupeiI only have a couple of V-neck tees and like you mentioned they’re not cut too low and I think they look pretty good. I do think that something cut down to the center of your breastbone looks bad.

[@Pietervdv]

I prefer v-neck t-shirts because they're not so prominently visible under my v-neck sweaters that I always prefer over round necks. A round neck under a v-neck sweater is just asking for the 90s demanding their look back.

[@juanitotucupei]

@@Pietervdv "just asking for the 90s" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesburns9975]

As a man with big traps, v necks are the only t shirts that fit right across my top half. Saying that though....don't go too deep with it

[@kevindawe7495]

Hey Bud, agree with everything you mentioned EXCEPT the V neck T's........ I love them but have both Vs and Crews in my rotation, great vid thought 😊

[@brycesullivan10]

Thank you for posting content that is actually sensible (albeit your opinion still). As I age (mid 30s) I find myself going to clothing pieces that actually fit my body properly and that I can use in a variety of occasions, instead of going with trends.

[@sammyb1651]

100% this.

[@trdaniel37]

I clicked on this video to hate on it, but everything was correct

[@yamasail]

@@mutteringmale That's only correct if you're buying to show off to others. There are plenty of watch enthusiasts for whom being able to appreciate a high-end watch is an actual hobby.

[@MakeMeMyMoney]

@@yamasail This. I bought my Omega Seamaster for myself not to impress others. And I could afford it. LOL at actually caring about what other people do with their money.

[@yamasail]

@@MakeMeMyMoney Outstanding choice. Have a Speedmaster myself.

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

Other than the guy making the video being dressed like Tim Blake Nelson

[@MakeMeMyMoney]

@@yamasail Nice! Thought about getting that one, but I liked the white dial with the orange hands of the Seamaster.

[@tufnel211]

Hey Brock! First off - great content - liked and subscribed. Like you said, there's going to be a lot of disagreement - that's all cool. On the V-neck issue - perhaps that could be a body type thing? You're clearly a classic ectomorph, so maybe v necks don't work well on you? I"m much shorter and stockier - really thick neck (wrestling and weightlifting background) - and I get more compliments on my appearance when I wear a v-neck than crew neck. Nevertheless I still wear crew neck 90% of the time lol. Anyways, great video, looking forward to seeing more!

[@JFKaufmann]

“No need to go full bud light” 😂 Always a treat when a good video makes you laugh out loud.

[@mynala110]

Love this sarcastic and witty take. More of this

[@BrockMcGoff]

Noted!

[@MrClassicmetal]

Agreed, great video!

[@timothyw7663]

@@BrockMcGoffI subscribed just for the snark, AND your cool speech cadence.

[@astronomerperson]

In defense of the synthetic suit: my job has a no questions asked dress code (coat and tie) and up north here - sometimes the weather is absolute garbage. Not beating up my good fabric suits on sleet/snow/driving rain and windy days. The performance suits I expect to fall apart but I don't care if they get weathered and I can throw it in the wash. And over coats work sometimes but certain conditions just cause far more sweating. My 2 cents there. Otherwise I agree, wear a good wool suit (lined or unlined dependent on temperature)

[@tonydo91]

I have a black dress shirt exclusively for funerals. And when you get older, it unfortunately gets used a lot more often than I'd like.

[@sinabagherisarvestani8924]

black dress shirts look good with camo army pants , its a causal look , a bit gangster but still looks nice I think I'm not a fan of camo pants , I think its out of style and I don't like wearing it , I try to stay away from it because I don't think it looks good , it was great in the 1990's but its not in style now

[@eddiemaxwell6949]

I wear white shirts to funerals. Black ones tend to look a bit gangsterish.

[@bhougland18]

Still looks tacky

[@sinabagherisarvestani8924]

A black shirt can still look good , a black dress shirt looks good with a white suit or off white linen suit or with a light brown suit , now a black tie is a different story , I think a black tie looks ridiculous unless your at a funeral @@bhougland18

[@taerikee]

​@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 Personally, I would add camo pants to the no-no list

[@its-me-here]

I was agreeing with everything you said until you got to cargo shorts. I may need those extra pockets one day and I don't what to tote a backpack.

[@jimwilson7231]

For the most part, I'm inclined to agree. Your overall vibe is about being real which is always appropriate and cool. I disagree about black dress shirts, or even the all black vibe. Musicians, for example, love black as it helps them be comfortable and focused...don't ask me why, but it's a real thing. I, for example, like to tone down my bodybuilder chest with dark colors...and it works...get lots of compliments. I agree, however, about matching a black dress shirt with another bright color. Soft colors complement black much better.

[@zoomx4760]

I agree with everything besides the V-neck T-Shirts, it all depends how aggressive the V-neck is. I still like my Sunspel Riviera t-shirts, because the V-neck is very minimal, but it also adds a casual sportiness that quite enjoy in summer.

[@BrockMcGoff]

A subtle V is the way to go, for sure!

[@JThaddeus1019]

V neck T-shirts (with a minimal v) have their place, especially if you’re working out or running.

[@dereksalas8195]

Or sleeping.

[@JRAnalyzes]

@@JThaddeus1019 V necks for working out? I go to the gym 4 times a week and I can't picture it lol scoop neck tank tops yea...

[@user-xp2ox1xk1z]

Hate that feeling of the bottom of the V hitting inside the top of my chest. I know, I'm a little too sensitive 😮 crewnecks don't do that

[@andrew1212w]

My dad bought a replica Cartier Tank dress watch 20 years ago when he passed I started wearing it and I can’t believe it’s still working and keeping good time.

[@ThatGuyUpThere]

I've been eyeballing a Seiko Santos for a while (it's obviously a mod), I would love to buy something similar but the desing is too unique.

[@ABS_Gent]

I have a 30 years old Cartier Santos and the only thing that makes it fake is that it says quartz at the bottom, most people think it's a genuine piece.

[@JamieWalker-pc6nd]

@@ABS_Gentwait. If it’s 30 Years old it is a quartz bro

[@Perceni]

@@ABS_Gent It is probably real, they made plenty of quartz

[@PyroClit]

@@ABS_Gent My friend there is a Cartier Santos Quartz.

[@Fairy.-.-]

I agreed with everything aside from your take on black dress shirts, I believe they can be pulled off with a sport jacket on top, great video^^

[@yoshavamgenut4870]

Hey man, I just LOVE your new vibe on this video- so sarcastic, mean and funny at the same time, without being too harsh. By the way it’s probably the first time I totally agree with everything a video says

[@thomasmorrison675]

Keep in mind that a Rolex does not make you better than the people around you. Only you can make you better than the people around you.

[@USAisAntiWhite]

Apparently, you dont own a Rolex! 🤣

[@thomasmorrison675]

@@USAisAntiWhite I own 3.

[@douglasgriffith660]

@@thomasmorrison675 dude you are better than me.

[@lolakuty-to9io]

@@USAisAntiWhite The fact that you measure worth on the basis of a watch tells me you are not very worthy yourself. And I am 100% certain you don't have even have a rolex.

[@davidjr24]

so what is it that YOU do that makes YOU better than those around you?

[@gymwars1244]

First of your videos that I’ve seen. Outstanding. I’m subscribed and look forward to the next.

[@microchip470]

I agree with you on the jersey take, and I'm a sports fan. According to Esquire's The Handbook of Style: "There is a name for men who can pull off wearing sport jerseys. They're called professional athletes." I would add that v-neck T-shirts could work for undershirts if you want to wear them under a button-up shirt and unbutton the top couple of buttons. Also, I didn't know that two-in-one sweaters existed until this video.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Love that quote! And yeah, v-necks are perfect for undershirts (under button ups).

[@uclajd]

I agree;l the only thing worse than wearing another man's name on the back of your shirt is your wife doing it.

[@alvacook34]

what's that insurance commercial where therapist keeps folks from turning into parents.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

​@@uclajdshut up

[@christopheroliver148]

Cargo shorts. Hmmm... when I did street photography, there would be all sorts of stuff like rolls of exposed film. Maybe I'd have a lens. Maybe my light meter. When I'm out with the dog, I might have a collapsible dog bowl and treats. If I bike to my food co-op, I might stuff some small items in my side pockets. That said, if you don't actually use the pockets, the shorts may be better without. I do most of my getting around these days by bike, and bags can be annoying.

[@froshanddink]

I can't imagine video production without cargo pants!

[@christopheroliver148]

@@froshanddink What's the side cargo for video?

[@davidrenegar5181]

Subscribed: this is by far the best I have seen in what works and what not to do in clothing. Each Sunday you will see retired NFL players and coaches at the roundtable during halftime wearing a matching pocket square and tie. They will also wear a suit with athletic shoes and look ridiculous. You did an excellent job, and I learned from it as well. I’m going to watch another video of yours right now. Thank you.

[@thomaskittock2866]

I have to say, I've almost excluisvely worn v-neck tees for the past ten years. It'd be hard to change my mind on those, I always feel great wearing them!

[@alejandrosepulveda7314]

Same here, I love the way they look on me. I always wear kind of a tame V though, nothing rodiculous.

[@stereoheadmtl5944]

My gym staple. Neck can breathe at gym and casual home wear.

[@cureton04]

I tend to think skinny guys looks better with crew necks, bigger or more muscular guys with v necks.

[@mholzmann]

I tend to agree on V-neck on basic color t-shirts and jeans. I like them

[@bobbymoore6013]

Agreed, I like the look of a good v-neck or hendley although I do plenty of crews as well, the v just needs to be moderate.

[@mars112v]

Ok, so the algorithm recommended me your video and I was already getting ready to hate what you were gonna say. But after watching your video I agreed with everything and now you got a new subscriber. Good stuff 👍🏽

[@jimmbear3998]

A couple items I would add to the list would be 1) those shiny tight athletic shirts that are advertised as moisture wicking or performance. Unless you are an Olympic sprinter or running the 40 yard dash at an NFL combine, you should not wear those. 2) Any overpriced tshirt that says the name of the brand or fashion designer in big letters across the front. Don’t these people realize that they overpaid and paid like $100+ simply to be used as a billboard? 🙄

[@irving10807]

I totally agree with the fake watches.

[@schreinerkyle]

Why? You can fool everyone into thinking it’s real and it looks just as good from the outside…I don’t think of myself as a phony…I think of myself as someone who looks just as good at fraction of the price…

[@liquorgunsandrhetoric]

It drives me nuts, because I almost always wear a Casio A700 which I bought off Amazon for 25$, and it attracts a fair number of compliments. It's way better to buy something cheap and genuine than buy a fake which is pretending to be something it isn't.

[@j.3592]

I have a high-quality fake Rolex. If someone mentions it I enjoy the conversation of asking them if it's fake or not, and I don't pretend it's real. Double-bonus when some poser tells me he's really into watches and they usually think it's real.

[@nunuabiznus]

​@@schreinerkyle I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not. . .

[@brianperticari]

100%

[@eddwallis6590]

I would add square toe shoes. There is no legitimate reason these need to exist.

[@sinabagherisarvestani8924]

well it depends , if you have really big feet , like size 14 or 15 than square toe looks nice

[@LuisMercadoorg]

Historically. I’d agree. But I feel this past year some brands like Marsell and Margiela kinda nailed the squared toed shoe proportion.

[@williammarshall468]

Cowboy boots look good with square toes. I assume you are talking about dress shoes which I agree with you on.

[@denis888red]

Good shout!

[@FraldinhoBJJ]

Nah every man needs a pair of square toe cowboy boots

[@Ethaara]

I only have 1 to disagree with here, it is the V-neck. If you are short but wider shoulders, it absolutely makes sense. Not a deep V neck though.

[@ericgeneric135]

Always appreciate the longer videos!

[@Raey_Thoven]

Just curious - Are V-Neck shirts bad because most guys don't have the upper chest to pull it off, or, do you guys think they're bad in general? I personally like them, but I'm also pretty muscular. Genuinely asking.

[@BrockMcGoff]

I think they only work for guys with muscular chests/shoulders/necks. But I also think that those guys would look just as good or better in crew necks.

[@a.kamileon]

I think V neck’s are great if you have the body type for it

[@PotsdamSenior]

I do have some v-necks. Reason: I wear t-shirts only as undershirts, in winter. And if I wear a shirt without a tie (rarely, I like dressing more on the formal side), I wouldn't want the t-shirt to poke out under the dress shirt.

[@tradedate]

A V neck undershirt is fine. I do the same thing. ​@@PotsdamSenior

[@jaredking31]

I can't go back to crewnecks. suffocating if you have a big neck and chest. I'll take my non deep vnecks to the grave. But I'm old and married with a toddler.

[@secordman]

Cargo shorts are useful. Better than lugging a bag around. Don't care what some critic thinks.

[@colinbarlow6662]

I agree with most EXCEPT A V-neck can look good only if the V is extremely shallow. But you are right in terms of crewnecks will always be better

[@alvacook34]

V Neck t shirts are in, if you can wear it well. Then it dresses up a level from crew. keep on keeping on

[@TheFlipshitz]

Agreed, a shallow black v neck with a blazer works fine always

[@thomasbateman8088]

Man, you nailed it. I have 60+ years in fashion. All common sense. Keep it coming . You are really helping folks here.

[@ukrandr]

I agree. This was spot on, though not as lengthy as it could have been. As far as helping folks out there, that only comes into play if the offenders heed the advice.

[@andrewbrendan1579]

I don't play or watch sports. I once heard the wife of a two-time Super Bowl player say, "It's just chasing a ball around". I am baffled as to why chasing, throwing, bouncing, hitting a ball or puck; sliding down a hill on pieces of wood, etc. gets people so worked up and they say the athletes are heroes. I believe in taking good care of our bodies, but not elevating athletics to idolatry or making a career out of it. -- One style that ran its course, hopefully forever, is the open shirt showing chains and chest hair that was popular in the late 70's when I was becoming an adult. That look was pathetic. -- For myself I like solid colors for simple clothes that don't draw attention to myself though I do like cargo shorts as they come in handy for me: I can take a variety of things with me yet not have to carry or wear something that contains them.

[@MDobri-sy1ce]

Nice to see you again Brock! I hope to see more casual try ons. Also, are we going to get an updated house tour in the near future?

[@tsukemono1]

I had that 'Hey, I resemble that remark' a few times in this vid. Sound advice though. Good job!

[@miesterpropper7805]

V neck T shirt as an undershirt is way better than a crew neck. Polo shirts are essentially buttoned V necks.

[@jonlong5197]

Backward baseball hat. That was popular in 1983

[@redhedkev1]

Brooooooooooooooo...noooooooooooooo. (Actually, the first thing that I think of, is when I see that a guy wears a baseball cap (Not at a game) and refuses to remove it or he just spins it around...he's probably bald under there.)

[@MJLU280]

Agree. V necks peaked in popularity in 1953. should never be worn.

[@Liam_Maddog]

Nothing says "I'm desperately trying to look young" like the backward baseball hat.

[@edcipriani8873]

@@redhedkev1 - That's an interesting comment. I have lost most of my hair and I just shave it down to stubble once a week. And yet the only time I wear a hat is when I am outside doing yardwork to protect my face head and neck from getting sunburned. And I never cared for the backwards baseball cap, to me it just makes men look like 14 year old thugs who should be riding skateboards, and selling drugs on the street corner, especially when they don't have the courtesy to remove their caps indoors. I just never cared for that look, and it just looks stupid as hell.

[@Buckboy2024]

So was Rick Astley.

[@joshswanson0]

Damn, wasn't expecting the first one. I got a pair of oxford-styled leather sneakers from Allen Edmonds, to me it looks like a normal leather sneaker with an elevated cut...almost made me second guess my purchase - but I still love em! I feel like they work great for a classy date night, or business casual at work

[@blouseybrown1]

Even if they look good, most offer little or no support.

[@CryptoJKz]

I have both the hybrid shoes and regular dress shoes and think the hybrids are a good way to be more comfortable and to push limits a bit at a stuffy company.

[@asdf072xxp]

I think the solid panel leather ones look fine. Like Common Projects style. The wing tip ones (or any brogue style) can look odd.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

I am visually impaired and cannot legally drive, so I’m commuting on foot and/or mass transit when I’m on my own. Those hybrid dress shoes are a blessing! You can still look put together while being able to walk around a lot. The point is, they do have Their place

[@yaboicezy]

I agree, however the only thing I can say with regards to homage watches is when the original doesn’t have all the “features” you want out of the watch. Tudor for example, I love the FXD chronograph but it’s too big for my wrist, I have to resort to a homage that is 60% similar but in a smaller size

[@dnski]

Yes! So glad you mentioned those dress shoes with sneaker soles right off the bat! I always thought they were tacky, looks as if someone was pulling leftovers from the Ross shoes section. Just subscribed, great stuff Brock!

[@pensivepenguin3000]

I have a pair of what they are calling derbies by Cole Haan, with the more athletic soul and brown leather upper, but honestly they look pretty sleek and cohesive. I think if you go into more formal styles with more embellishments, it would start to look really mismatched though. These are nice if you just want to throw on an oxford button-down, pair of khakis and some shoes that look better than sneakers but aren’t excessively formal. I still wouldn’t wear them to any actual formal or semi formal occasion

[@martintanz9098]

I agree with the list with a few exceptions. The homage watch is a legitimate loophole for a couple of reasons. Some homages are for very old designs that are often unobtainable or very expensive. Second, even if an homage to a current model, say the Rolex Submariner, most people can’t afford a real Rolex sub. But if you just enjoy the look, really nothing wrong with buying a Steinhart or a San Martin. And, fwiw if anybody notices your watch, comment is usually more like nice watch then I’d that a Rolex Third, to some extent, a lot of watches borrow elements from famous designs. I have a Seiko Alpinist that borrows design language from Oris. And another Seiko that looks a little like a Tudor Black Bay. And yet somehow I managed to look at myself in the mirror. My suggestion is, don’t go too far into collecting homages and you will be fine. As for things not to wear, I guess crocs would make my list.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Good points! It's definitely a spectrum from homage to clone. I don't think homages are all bad, if purchased for the right reasons.

[@Bwhomebrew]

Definitely agree. I began buying more watches from AliExpress from brands like San Martin for certain reasons. If I like the looks of it and it happens to be a homage I still buy it for the fact that the specs on brands like San Martin are an incredible value. My $250 San Martin has better specs than any of my $500+ watches from brands such as seiko. Why would I buy a lesser quality watch for double or triple the price just because it’s a seiko? And like you alluded to, seiko themselves have many designs that could easily be labeled a homage watch. The vast majority of the population is not in to watches. I’ve never ever had someone ask “Is that a black bay 58?” Either no one says anything or someone says “that’s a nice looking watch” which I’d then respond “thanks”. No reason to try to pass it of as something it’s not. None of my friends, family, or acquaintances even know what the brand Tudor is so there’s definitely no pretending my watch is anything but the brand name that is on the dial, “San Martin” Also I don’t have a large enough budget to go over a $1000 for a single watch and I enjoy variety so I’ll stick with my $200 San Martin rather than forking out $6k for a Tudor. I understand people that don’t feel the same and would rather spend more money on just one piece that has heritage. Totally get why they would choose that route. But just because someone chooses a different route and buys a homage watch does not mean they are somehow pretending to be better than other people or that they are trying to play it off as the real thing. I say buy whatever you enjoy and can afford.

[@secordman]

​@@BwhomebrewSteeldive Captain Willard Seiko homage is a great watch. 3 years now, came on bracelet with rubber strap added. Just a solid watch that does the job.

[@Gallalad1]

I find at least where I'm at in Ireland (and when I go abroad to the UK) there is a clear cut case for smart casual shoes. Alot of bars and pubs will require "dress shoes" to be worn for various reasons but obviously if I'm standing up in a pub for several hours I'd rather not wear something more comfortable. Thus these boys. They're perfect for that job which is why I like them.

[@nickkestler4848]

Spot on with everything. I did cave in and get back into cargo shorts, after years of making fun of them and avoiding them. They are my good yardwork/dog walking shorts because anything else would look odd.

[@nathanholmesofficial]

Great video! Instant sub. Keep it up! And loved your take on sports 😂💯

[@BrockMcGoff]

Appreciate it!

[@scottharris2537]

Cool vid. I can really appreciate and agree with (honestly) 99.9% of your insights. When it comes to V-necks, I have high-styles so it’s more in line with normal T’s. Have a great one! 🥂

[@michaelslawski]

Brock, 100%, - 1st- Hilarious & Entertaining, 2nd, Following for awhile, got to say you found your "Niche" 3rd, Advice,? spot on as always Bro! Seriously, Please do more Vids with type of format, Nobody else is doing this type of spin. Hit us up with another... Good Job Brock!! :)

[@BrockMcGoff]

I appreciate that!

[@mrmartywaring]

Bro, you & I are totally in sync with this list. I agree on your entire list (well, I do have one black dress shirt I wear when working PT with my friend's catering business)

[@johnsaret2022]

You got me as a new subscriber! I find your content classy.

[@JimmyBeans84]

I don't think I can ever ditch my shallow v-neck shirts. I have a weird hang-up about things around my neck. Turtlenecks are kind of my worst nightmare. Hopefully I'm not getting silently roasted by strangers in public.

[@klausstock8020]

Yup, some guys have facial hair which will always interfere with most clothing options (your profile picture checks out). I used to love turtlenecks, but cannot wear them anymore. Would need to shave every few hours to keep me from getting mad. Luckily, round neck shirts work, but they seem to wear out faster on me than on everyone else.

[@gauravdeora1502]

Hey Brock, have been following you since the modest man days and never have I ever seen this side of yours, you are roasting like a pro 😂 and this made me to comment for the first time ever on your video, the content as always is spot on but the delivery this time is hitting out of the park, keep up the good work, cheers 😊

[@BrockMcGoff]

I appreciate that!

[@i_am_samiii6580]

I haven't seen him in a while. I almost forgot the channel was called modest man. He looks to have aged a good amount in only a few years

[@BrockMcGoff]

@@i_am_samiii6580 well when you move across the country, buy a house, sell a business and have two kids in the span of three years...

[@brianpalay2]

2:17 Yeah, I bought a Steinhart. A girl complimented me on my Sub. I corrected her because I didn't want the credit for buying a Rolex. I've since sold the Steinhart, bought a TAG Heuer WAK211A, saved up money for a Rolex, but I don't think I want to buy into the weird, thirsty Rolex culture - thirsty for attention on socials, and thirsty for an AD's attention to be bestowed the sacred privilege of giving them 12 grand. It's all strange, so I'll keep loving my TAG.

[@xenofyl1]

I clicked on this vid ready to unleash the hate and everything was spot on EXCEPT (yes there’s always an exception) your criticising cargo shorts. They can be very useful on the trails or in the city during summer when you’re rocking an urban outdoorsy outfit and need extra storage since you cannot wear a jacket and the backpack would make your back sweat. I found your video very interesting and would only suggest a little bit more open-mindedness and less blunt opinions. But I definitely agreed with most of your points (yes, watching sports on tv is boring most of the time)! Keep up the good work 👊🏾

[@joachimkazmaier]

Cargo Shorts don't look good or right on anyone.

[@robo2606]

Great list 👍🏻

[@dnvziblone]

My rule of thumb for fashion "trends": if everyone is wearing it, don't wear it. I shoot for a "classic" look in most clothing and accessories.

[@richardcranium0]

White-framed sunglasses and wristwatches with a white strap. Both scream frat bro, delta-bravo. Any wristwatch over 42mm~ unless you have giant wrists (> 8"). Any wristwatch made by Invicta, MVMT, Hublot, or any designer save Cartier (Kors, Hillfiger, etc.) If you have the money to spend on a Hublot, get literally any other brand.

[@UserHorologium]

The last watch I bought was actually a Tommy Hilfiger. I got a very good deal on it (it was clearance priced, I had a 20% coupon that I used, and an additional 20% employee discount), but when I cracked the crystal (something I have done to most of the watches I owned), I discovered replacing the crystal was going to be more than twice what I paid for the watch. Since then, I simply use my cell phone as my watch, and since it (1) stays in my pocket most of the time, and (2) has a protective case and glass screen protector, I haven't had any problems. I *did* like the watch, and it was probably modeled on something else, but I liked the look (gunmetal silver steel band, and a blue face). I would never have tried to pass it off as anything other than a relatively inexpensive watch (despite the "designer" name), and none of my friends or peers are watch collectors or horologophiles.

[@mtlicq]

Add to your list, any, ANY wristwatches that are thick! Buying one online and finding out it is thick as a hockey puck.

[@Buckboy2024]

I agree about Hublot. Rhymes with no go.

[@KennyFischer]

Great video per usual Brock. Love the takes! You’re not wrong about the sports jersey. I used to wear them myself until I heard someone say what you said…”a grown man wearing another grown man’s jersey”. 😂

[@bernardpiper2648]

yep, I know I'm in the minority on the sports jersey. However, after a certain age, I think I felt a little immature, pitiful, or trying too hard to be too much like the herd. However, I'm sure folks have some choice things to say about my clothes too 😮

[@thatguywhois]

@@bernardpiper2648 some "real" football jersey are actually nice and classy..

[@bernardpiper2648]

@@thatguywhois I say go for it, if it makes you feel good. If your clothes make you feel confident and put you in a good mood, I say wear a jersey, a leather bike jacket or even a dress :-) But none of those are my thing! I'm more of a chinos and sweater kindof guy, which I'm sure makes some guys not feel comfortable or confident.

[@jrgensollie2641]

I watch many youtube videos and guides into all sorts of things. Oh my! This guy knows his stuff. Short, to the point, and with great edits. I´m subscribing!

[@graemejones2061]

I have an 18 inch neck and a 32 inch waist, the only choice I have is a v-neck or a larger fitting tee, buying a cotton Oxford is a nightmare too, 18 inch neck comes with something like a 52 chest, ridiculous

[@dark_gravity_edc]

I'm right there with you, kinda. I have an 18-inch neck and 32-inch waist, but I also have a 50-inch chest. I have to get nearly every shirt I buy tailored. Otherwise, I look like I'm wearing a sheet. I have an amazing seamstress, though.

[@grl9917]

Are you a turtle?

[@graemejones2061]

LOL, Nope ,but I do like splashing around in water ⛲@@grl9917

[@abhisunkara]

The only '&' shirt company I would buy from "Turnbull & Asser".

[@erminman74]

Or Hawes & Curtis.

[@jaykwonzzz]

By the way, Steinhart makes Sub homages for Sub models that are no longer being made. If you want a mil sub, good luck finding one and good luck affording it. The Steinhart Ocean 1 is a sub/snowflake homage that satisfies the military tool watch look in a modern watch that you won't be terrified to get wet. I don't own a Steinhart, but I absolutely would.

[@ritty300]

No need to manage anyone's feelings, although I feel attacked for my HeyDude's 😆. Thanks for all the great tips over the years!!

[@Outerspacefunk]

The hybrid dress shoes are exactly for wearing them at work where you can’t use sneakers because is a company policy so I’ll keep them thank you

[@redhedkev1]

I thought if the corporate group-bonding-outing entailed some off-road trail hiking.

[@tigers7834]

They are good for me because I'm IT and they want us to dress nicely but I need comfortable shoes because sometimes I need to walk and get on the ground and some shoes just doesn't bend

[@italdisc0]

Video content aside I really appreciate your style of editing. No music, no zooms, no hyper jarring quick cuts, and minimal jokes/memes.

[@ZoomZoom-ng6sn]

Here in SoCal, the dress-sneakers have taken over in local t.v. news studio reporting. It looks ridiculous to me. They'd be wearing a nice full suit but mess it up with those weird shoes.

[@BrockMcGoff]

Yup, it's a total mismatch. Ruins the outfit!

[@maxalaintwo3578]

They’re Frankenstein monstrosities. I can’t stand them

[@brianduru3753]

I call it the journalist/pundit/reporter shoe at this point. I'm almost beginning to think they are standard issue at this point. I've lost count of how many guys I've seen in good suits and the camera pans to the footwear and you see those monstrosities on their feet. It's f*cking atrocious.

[@walterfoyt5985]

A dress sneakers is an oxymoron.

[@maxalaintwo3578]

@@walterfoyt5985 so true

[@walterfoyt5985]

When I see the way men dress in the United States I feel you’re preaching to the choir. I travel extensively to Europe and find it amazing how much better they dress. I can always spot the Americans. They are the ones in cargo shorts, graphic t-shirts, sneakers and baseball hats. There is a so called KZbinr fashion expert who promotes performance suites and Collar & Co shirts that are 100% polyester and admits to wearing cargo shorts at Disneyland. I think the main reason is European men are more concerned with style than comfort. While American are more concerned with comfort than style. This may explain why we see so many people in American driving big pickup that they don’t need for work and get 4mpg.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

America is such a huge and diverse country though. What you see people wearing in Midtown Manhattan is going to look a lot different than rural Texas or suburban California

[@Buckboy2024]

True.

[@Cletus_the_Elder]

Spot on. The hybrid shoes and performance suits have a place: sneaking into the office on a Saturday to get work done alone and on a cruise ship. The long shorts make grown men look like they went to prison in their 20's and got out in their 40's.

[@dragonugget119]

Like the video a lot of good points. The hybrid dress shoe though is very functional though if you work on your feet but want to be more formal while skipping the foot paint of many oxfords.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

Yeah maybe I just have awful fashion taste, but I think those shoes look kind of neat. His argument is that they wouldn’t be suitable for formal or semi-formal occasions, and of course they wouldn’t. I don’t think that’s the target audience. They would be suitable for a night out at a nice steakhouse or a business casual office environment

[@Vincent_Napolitano]

I agree on your take on fake watches, but i think homage are ok, specially if they are mechanical or automatic, there are some well crafted homage watches out there, and anyway what are the odds of somebody asking what watch brand you're wearing?

[@7CharlesV]

Exactly. Nobody gives a what about my choice of watches. I just like have a reasonably priced watch with super nice specs. I've zero interest in dumping $20, $30, or $40k into say, a Rolex which are *to me* garish, bland, (at the same time!) when I can have a few tasteful Seiko's, or dare I say it, a nice looking Pagani Design for a change-up. Give me an orange Seiko Monster and I'm happy! Or a discreet looking dive watch with a suit! Why not? And, anyway, *NOBODY CARES*.

[@ZekuTokairin]

@@7CharlesV One thing I really love about the watch enthusiast community is they'll respect someone who wears a Casio and really loves it over a person who wears a Rolex only because they care about what other people think. The video's advice to "save up for the watch you want" is good. But I don't think anyone should be embarrassed about wearing a timepiece that they love, even if a non-watch person thinks the brand name isn't impressive.

[@garmin1488]

They're all homages, wear what you like( and can afford) and don't worry about the watch police, life is short NO one cares.

[@secordman]

I have a homage of a Seiko that I love, no logo on it, just does the job. For those who want luxury Swiss quality buy Tissot or Longines much cheaper than Omega Rolex etc but high quality.

[@tfpp1]

Regarding point #2, here's the way I see it: I'm not trying to deceive anybody. Yeah, maybe I really like a certain design but am in no position to be able to afford it anytime soon, so I get an homage. Now, if someone comes up to me and says " hey, is that a Rolex?", I'm going to say no, because the cost of being able to say "yes" in that moment is just not worth it to me. That's really what you're paying for -- the ability to not lie when someone inquires about your watch. I'm not gonna lie, but also, I really just don't care. Plus, in the end, I'm still "richer" than you.

[@FlightOfJatayu]

I'm 37, once I became older than most professional athletes, I thought it awkward to put a younger man's name on my back. Now if I want to support my team I will buy the team's polo shirt or sweater/half-zip with their logo/insignia on the chest. I still support the team without looking like a child.

[@Nando01-68]

It's such a great video. Probably one of your best. The part on fake watches is unbeatable! Lot of fun. I agree 100% on everything. Keep up with the good work!

[@442Carew]

Really liked your video, thanks for the nice job. Could you do a video on the 10 things a man should know how to cook? I read an article on this a long time ago and really began to perfect my cooking but I know most men have no clue in the kitchen. Other top 10 lists for men: 10 top tools and how to use 10 top qualities of kindness

[@leeclark5965]

I live in England and the biggest thing that drives me crazy is you go out shopping and I can guarantee going into a supermarket and people can’t even be bothered to get dressed they are in there pyjamas and dressing gown and the over thing is crocs I don’t care how comfortable they are there is no place on earth where they should be worn and I can’t wait for that stupid looking shoes if you can call them that to go out of fashion

[@Buckboy2024]

Crocs seem like a cry for help unless worn with medical gear as with docs and nurses and only while on duty.

[@coethion]

Cry more

[@DS-vx3wf]

they became Americanized

[@folksurvival]

You're right but you need to work on your English language skills.

[@mr.t7431]

11. Shirts with 2 front pockets…unless our a carpenter or lumberjack. If you need that much storage, pants have pockets.

[@OutHereOnTheFlats]

#12. the goofy fitting crew neck underneath the 2 front pockets.

[@user-xp2ox1xk1z]

The 2 front pocket shirts look horrible

[@appalachiangunman9589]

I for sure agree with you on synthetic fibers. I wore a “fishing” shirt hiking once thinking that the thin fabric, the gaps between the buttons, and the vents in the back would keep me cool. I was wrong, I’ve been buying some cotton and/or linen short sleeve button-ups for summer and they’re probably the most comfortable warm weather shirts I’ve ever owned.

[@maxalaintwo3578]

It pains me to admit you’re right about black dress shirts, as cool as they sound on paper. It’s just so hard to match them with anything else other than black pants, which like you said makes you look like staff. If you wanna be a maverick and wear other colored pants, go ahead, but it’s not easy; anything sufficiently contrasted from black might work. I’m a musician so I’m partial to the garment 😂

[@powersww1reset]

Not in suit form. However, casually with a well fitting and quality shirt, can easily go with jeans. Fitment, quality materials, and attitude I think, are most important

[@gilberttanner2792]

No black dress shirt with a black suit? John Wick says otherwise.

[@toekn811]

Yeah, but you're not John Wick, so..

[@gilberttanner2792]

Funnily enough, that's actually my legal name.

[@pascalnorvins2187]

No black suit at all . Dark grey or charcoal. Never black it goes with nothing

[@ThatGuyUpThere]

Is not that you can't pull it off, you need to be carefull with the shades of black and how the materials reflect light.

[@Theo-ul8qm]

And it's probably best left to John Wick 😅

[@TriscuitFTW]

i'll rock a Timex Pepsi before a Rep Rolex, tis an Homage, but it does function the same and it doesn't break the bank...ever. The rest of these are pretty spot on

[@tockingwatches2377]

My watches do make me better than everyone else. Thanks for your honesty.

[@tonywong8134]

As someone who wears homages, I never craved the real thing. It satisfied my itch for an expensive watch but when the homage is 95% of the expensive thing for 5% of the price I can live with that.

[@rwillson291]

Regarding the sports jerseys--if you're not a fan, I agree, don't bother with a jersey you're only wearing out of peer pressure. If you ARE a fan, by all means, get the one(s) that speak to your obsessive fandom of the team. It is difficult if you happen to live in a place where there is not a big fanbase for your favorite team. I feel your pain. It's OK to be invisible in public. When you get to the arena or stadium, get the best-looking home jersey--with or without your favorite player's name--and wear it with pride for years at the games. Its OK to direct a little energy to your favorite sports team and wear the colors while doing it.

[@rwillson291]

After further thought, there are a couple fashion rules for special circumstances, such as being a guest in the owner's suite or your company's box seats. First, most professional and collegiate teams have branded polo or golf shirts--wearing that is your best, conservative, branded option. Second, if you are bringing a second colleague or date, clue them into the dress code (match the level of attire you're wearing--which is likely not a jersey*). Third, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you or your colleague/date wear anything branded of the rival team. Don't bite the hand that gave you the ticket! *Lastly, try to learn what others in your company box/suite will be wearing--if everyone is wearing jerseys--and many company cultures do--great! your choice! If you are attending a professional event with someone else's ticket, chances are it was expensive--more expensive than the branded clothing people in the suite will be wearing. Be respectful. Dress appropriately. Have a good time.

[@dougcohen4888]

Flip flops if you're not at the pool.

[@mtlicq]

Flip flops if not at the pool ! Yes that should have been in the video. Underrated comment

[@Buckboy2024]

Or the beach or a inside only house shoes.

[@berghuisbs]

First time watching your content. I agree with every one of your takes except for the Hey Dude shoes. I love those shoes for around the house and a quick trip to the store.

[@neilfrasersmith]

Try some Crocks

[@thetruthhurts7500]

always look your best...even a quick trip to the store. Remember your a man, not a toddler.

[@bradfloyd4325]

Brock, I love your takes and videos. I am just bought some hybrids for one use case. . .standing at a booth at a trade show. Only worn once so stay tuned. I also bought a suit from Sene and I have to say that I love it. I love stretch in my clothes including dress shirts. I agree that they don't have the look of wool but as a short, muscular man I was spending more on the tailoring of the suit than the actual suit which was frustrating. We will see if they are around in several more years but I loved your takes and appreciate the time you put into them.

[@pjs2409]

Cant get rid of cargo shorts. Where do men put ever larger smartphones, keys, wallet etc when wearing just t-shirt and shorts? Also, on homage watches. Did you ever get an 'own brand' can of beans or soda from the supermarket and realise it tastes the same as the famous, more expensive branded version? If anything, they taste better because you're saving money........

[@secordman]

Left front cargo pocket for wallet, right for phone. I won't give up my cargo shorts.

[@bsim1801]

Don’t let any KZbin tool tell you what you shouldn’t wear. Trends change. Embrace your own unique style

[@christopherwalther2683]

2 cases (pun, yes) for a homage watch: You enjoy the design but you don't fully enjoy the brand, and, watches that have an original design, that homage other well known watches.