I'M VENGEANCE - The Batman Review (2022)

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Some people are calling The Batman the best movie ever to feature the Caped Crusader. Starring Robert Pattinson as the Dark Knight and Zoe Kravitz as Cat Woman, it's a gritty Noir featuring The Riddler!
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[@GhastlyBones]

You guys totally missed the puzzle solution of “you are el rata alada” puzzle. Penguin tells them that the sentence doesn’t make sense because in Spanish you would say “la rata” not “el rata” leading to Batman saying that “you are el” is actually “U R L”

[@msmith1845]

Open your eyesssss!!! Gordon holds the room with that one. Love the film.

[@MrML4L]

so clever a ten year old thought of it

[@robotsix6268]

@@brandonchutt312 "It's" was something that a brainstorming community of dark-web incels would come up with. Believable and intentional.

[@moe98tech18]

Ever noticed that Riley looks like Commissioner Gordon

[@overdev1993]

Also the director of the movie

[@jamesstrieb1]

LOL!

[@beep_]

suspicious

[@TheCzx]

and like matt reeves mustache :)

[@Enigma1990ad]

So happy I found this channel. This LTT spin off is lit!

[@Yhesboss]

I liked how Batman tried to enter the club, One as Batman Two as Bruce Wayne Three he snuck in

[@RS-kt6bo]

A brilliant move by someone trying to conceal their identity.

[@burnielan]

I always thought of the Riddler as this weird goofy character who left clues for Batman because in his mind he was playing a game with Batman. But it always seemed to be a major plot hole because if he didn't, then Batman would have had a much harder time trying to figure out his plan. It always seemed to be something that worked in comic because it had to. But in the movie the writers provide a clear and understandable reason why he leaving clues for Batman to follow since to the Riddler, he thought that Batman was his partner in exposing and removing the corrupt elite from Gotham! Felt much more plausible. Great episode as always!

[@lkzoomer9158]

I freakin love this podcast, these 3 are easily some of my favorite of the ltt cast and this was such a good movie

[@spenserdeardorff2737]

I gotta say, I'm totally fine with some films getting longer, especially if they deserve it. Though the 3rd Act had some flaws in this film, it really was necessary to tie all the arcs together and bring the story to completion. Films used to be longer back in the days of Hollywood's Golden Age, and in a time of receding attention spans, I'm glad to see films bucking conventional wisdom of making shorter and shorter content.

[@Carboxylated]

Saw it on Tue with the lady. She normally despises anything super heroish or comic book based and frankly so do I however we absolutely loved "The Batman". Clapping at the end of the movie, and staying throughout the entire credits to see the little surprise at the end. A great movie going experience, and let me tell you when that bat mobile first starts its engines...DAMN...the entire audience was erupting in roar and I got chills down my spine. The sound design on that scene was very well done. Overall it's an amazing movie and needs proper recognition.

[@danderosa]

I was waiting a full 3 hours for any sign of the Tim Burton comedy - walking up to the Penguin's car after that chase scene, locking eyes silently for a few moments.. Batman: "License and registration". Otherwise, 8.9/10 in my book, cinematography was out of this world and lack of CGI really grounded this movie, making it more immersive.

[@DizzyBusy]

Regarding cinematography, dang, yes. It's literally "every frame a painting"

[@mcterrylesterson3280]

I agree with you on the cinematography. Every shot was beautiful and the editing was sublime. Agree with you on the CGI part except for one scene, the one where he wingsuits down. I don't know if it was just me, but that movement was so bad and jarring it felt amateurish. Not going to rewatch it again, might need to just wait for the Blue-Ray to see it again...

[@arghyaneedsleep]

There's a TON of CGI in this movie dude. It's just really well done so you don't notice. Like almost every shot from the Car chase has CGI. The rain was CG, Batman's cape in the final shot was CG and they even changed his boots with CG.

[@KyleCollective]

That adrenaline thing totally hints to Bane from the comics

[@joebojanic1905]

That's what I thought they were doing too.

[@saltyXtaterXtots]

I get what David is saying about the adrenaline near the end but I actually felt that it was his rage he was channeling and the adrenaline just gave him the strength to get up; it really added to their emotional connection to me at how angry and protective he was of her. Also it definitely seemed like a hint to Bane to me. And that was the last guy, once he took him down it was over. The scene did it for me all around

[@gzzuss]

That's was totally nob to the venom

[@DaedalusProject]

Today, I learned James has no idea how comics and alternate universes work

[@mike530]

Those plants really tie the set together. Extra points

[@baddmatt9588]

I do not recall Batman scolding Catwoman for being a sex worker. He did scold her for stealing the bag of money. But that was for being a thief, not a “woman of the night”.

[@KM-jf6bn]

It was when he was accusing her of “comprising/selling herself” to get close into the crime organization. He says all this because the movie implied a close intimate relationship between Selina and Falcone, which apart from the father-daughter relationship, would imply some sort of sex work/mistress relationship.

[@baddmatt9588]

Do we really know if those attacking the mayor and DA are even “The Riddler” himself, and not a follower doing it on orders?

[@makennahughes5580]

As an aside, the theme used for Batman is the Dies Irae. It’s a really famous musical theme that dates back to the 1200s. Often it’s associated with death. it’s been used a lot in movies like Sweeney Todd and the shinning. It became super popular from Copin’s Funeral March. Dies Irae translates to ‘The Day of Judgment’ or ‘The Day of Wrath,’ Which makes it really fitting for Batman

[@LedtallicaZombie]

Batman slowly emerging from the shadows was reminiscent of the introduction of The Bear Jew from Inglorious Basterds.

[@darmokandjalad7786]

I really wish the ending had included a scene of Bruce using his money and influence to help rebuild Gothman. Early in the film, Alfred chides him for dodging board meetings, and later, the mayor asks him for his help. Instead of some of the spinoff set up at the end, it would have been great to see Bruce launch a new, better, renewal program - maybe open up better orphanages or something. That seems to be where they were going thematically, so I was a little surprised when the film ended without it.

[@BLAZINGwaffle56]

Really? The message I got was that he saw how all of that failed the people of Gotham, but that he could do real change with the batman

[@darmokandjalad7786]

@@BLAZINGwaffle56 I feel like that's the same thing. Batman realized that he had failed the people of Gotham by focusing solely on punishing criminals, which led to him saving the mayor and others at the end -- realizing that he needed to be a protector as well as a punisher. But, the movie also makes it clear that he hasn't been doing his best as Bruce either. Selina calls out the rich white men of the city for being corrupt and not solving problems, and the Riddler partially targets Bruce Wayne because he wasn't using his power and money to help people. That's why I think my addition would help strengthen his arc -- sorry I think it was a little unclear before.

[@BLAZINGwaffle56]

@@darmokandjalad7786 nah its all good. overall Im kinda just glad it even had a story that touched on elements like that. especially after the cacophony that was ben afflecks batman.

[@darmokandjalad7786]

@@BLAZINGwaffle56 Yeah! I was almost more interested in the movie thematically than I was in the plot lol. I didn't expect a big DC blockbuster to go this way.

[@innaclouds8977]

i dig the middle guys' Dwight Schrute haircut

[@oscarsnowball8001]

Great episode. For anyone interested in sussing out Barry Keoghan before this new role of his - Killing of a sacred deer is the obvious one but also 2019 ‘calm with horses’. A criminally underwatched Irish film where he plays a gangster and puts in an Incredible performance.

[@vysrath]

Sounds cool I'll check it out

[@amateurwizard]

The cable that he cut makes sense. The lights that power the stadium were going to electrocute the people which were all wading around waist high it what was established to be seawater. From what I remember of the shot before they establish that the junction box is either broken or can't be turned off there.

[@user4218]

I think Robert didn't buff up bcz most of times to do that in shorter spans u require anabolic use

[@Asymptote]

Biggest flaw is he never completed the phrase “I am vengeance, I am the night, I’m Batman”

[@itsmalazai763]

Riley gave this movie the lowest rating of the 3, but yet he had the most good things to say about it🤔😂

[@Cephalopadre]

Thanks for sharing and uploading.

[@lovehatecomments]

I was really looking forward to this. Got till the ratings. Can't wait to watch/listen the full breakdown. And yes, you 3 have slowly become one of the best, detailed, fun and most reliable movie reviews/discussions/analysis forum anywhere. Love it. Bring Sarah on for more please!

[@nathanhaaland2002]

Absolutely love longer movies. In the era of 10 episodes "shows" movies just don't seem to have enough time to develop. This is definitely a huge strength of the marvel movies because they are not only long but they are basically a big "show".

[@FaithfulFrets]

21:03 why Alfred out here sounding like Old Greg

[@Inimigor1]

Let's goooo this movie was pretty good and looking forward to hearing you guys' opinion on it!

[@MrNabmas]

loved this episode think its the best one so far!

[@EliteProductions3129]

Was it confirmed in the movie that the journalist was the riddler's father? That was my initial assumption but I don't think they actually acknowledged it

[@seanypark505]

The journalist's last name was Elliot which is a reference to Thomas Elliot who is Hush in the comics. It also states HUSH all over the screen during that screen.

[@carovishabyan6348]

Is there like a excel or file of all the movies they’ve reviewed and their rating in order?

[@kurtpowell1120]

Will you guys ever consider doing a Peace Maker review?

[@yourmomsfriedgravy]

At 52:00 where you're talking about them changing it from Falcone-EE to Falcone the same thing happens in The Dresden Files audio books. They pronounce one of the antagonists name Marcone-EE in the first book then they change it to Marcone. What's the deal with that?!

[@beaniiman]

the "Bruce" persona is really good in this imo. I think he would be much like this early on; he learns to fake it as he gets older. He will never be normal, and this shows that he was not some golden perfect child that became a perfect vigilante. BW and BM are not role models.

[@jamogable]

I laughed out louder than I should have when Batman did a flashy entrance that could have endangered a lot of people underneath than what he should have.. but the movie in general was good..

[@diamondarrow4567]

So excited to watch this I literally saw the film yesterday

[@baddman69]

I know I'm a bit late, sorry only just watched it, but did anyone else notice the kid with the half painted face in the first fight was the same kid who plays Tim Drake in Titans?

[@Taigirr]

Correct. But apparently was only cast in that after so wasn't intentional

[@chrisl8292]

Hey guys, can you review "Drive My Car"? Its on HBO Max now. It's one with 98% on RT. It's very slow, very zen, and 3hrs long. So you gotta be in the mood for that. I split it over two nights. But, in the end, I really enjoyed the ride.

[@ClellBiggs]

I loved Burton's and Nolan's Batman's but I actually think this may be my favorite now. The noir atmosphere and Se7en like story were extremely enjoyable for me. I'll have to watch it again at some point to see if that opinion holds.

[@realhkv4082]

I thought that the flood situation was so to bring all the people at one place and bring something to light i dont remember what tho

[@SMarcey]

As a comic dork Im used to getting new versions and different takes on the characters i love constantly. Thats just the nature of the omic publishing industry. So it never bothers me when we get another new take on a cape in film form. The more the better for my money. That also means if I dont like something, i just have to wait a couple years, and there gonna make another different one that I might enjoy more. Not to say I didnt like this flick, I really dug it. Thats is just more a little nugget I wanted to give for people who maybe sometimes get too wrapped up in one of these movies when they come out.

[@robotsix6268]

11:00 cowl was heavily inspired by Adam West's mask.

[@waitwhat1144]

We meet again Carpool...or should I say TJM?

[@IamTonySy]

The Foreigners show James mentioned sounds basically the same as the 4400 reboot

[@RNGwhydoihavetoregis]

39:57 this conversation but remember when Riley said this 18:59 ? I had left the theatre just as confused as Riley about Riddler did/didn't know. After reviewing the scene at Arkham, one might imagine Riddler had been trying to provoke a response from Batman to reveal himself on tape. I personally didn't buy into the alternative, brooding over Bruce who got away, and thought if this was misdirection it was janky in its execution because the tone the Riddler uses was mismatched. Later on in that conversation I believe the Riddler expressed he was inspired by Batman, said he felt empowered when he too wore a mask and could be his true self. So I believe I was overwhelmed in the moment and thought he knew Batman was Bruces trueself, the mailbomb says otherwise though but I have nitpicks with that, billionaires who open their own mail? If he needed Batmans help to reach the crime boss, why not Bruce Wayne too? I felt he didn't sell the failure of the Bruce Wayne attempt, and perhaps the Riddler might have been curious why his, up to that point, well executed plan didn't work (ignoring my nitpicks) and tested the Batman face to face by saying Bruce Wayne repeatedly. TL;DR was confused, watched your review after and felt better, reviewed the scene and think he either knows and changed the subject after gauging Batmans reactions (probable), didn't pickup on Batmans reactions (not probable), or truely didn't know (very likely, they're both ignorant to the extent of the plan/secret identity).

[@BINACmini]

On the subject of the rating- another problem I had with it was during the penguin chase. They had already used their one F-word, and so this evil mob boss crook guy was screaming "I got you, you fricking bat" and things such as that. It struck me as unrealistic at the time.

[@DizzyBusy]

I've been saying this below the line on a lot of your videos. YES, please do The Lobster, pretty please. Thank you

[@squirtmac5835]

I like to think this is Batman just kinda starting up like in the early years and things like he glider suit and car is him starting to build his tech and get to where he is as "we all know him."

[@bu6jon]

Im so fricking excited for this lets GOOOOOO

[@jakebuster522]

Oh, my God, can me.Please know what exactly does a anti reflect a surface treatment mean what is that

[@memoryfoam2285]

Personally I think the riddler knowing Batman's identity was left open, cos he's proven to be an incredibly intelligent opponent for Batman and whether or not his fantasy of allying with Batman is an act, it would make sense for him to hold on to that information for future use because he probably would want to expose him at a time when it would cause the most political damage, maybe once Bruce starts getting more into his work outside of Batman.

[@Lands8142]

I think batman/Bruce looking at the boy was unique every time. One was as the batman where the kid sees him in the house. Then again at the funeral where the kid sees him as Bruce and doesn't really care. Then again in the water at the end where he's the first one to reach out to Batman. I think a discussion about each scenario could be better instead of saying it was the same every time.

[@bryan.w.t]

Wow I thought you were gonna go crazy about this movie. I loved it, easily a 9/10 for me, it stands itself for the cinematic experience visually and audibly.

[@shoff29]

Spoilers^* * * * When Batman injected himself with that green stuff that make him hulk out, I actually thought it was Titan. Like the stuff Bane uses. I guess it wasn’t. But that would’ve been a cool way to introduce it. Like something Batman made to use in very dire situations.

[@dwcramer92]

I though it was called venom not titan, google time I'll be back. Edit: "Bane is an escaped convict from an island prison in South America and a super-villain/assassin. Bane has abnormal physical strength as a result of having undergone experiments involving a derivative of the drug Venom"

[@shoff29]

@@dwcramer92 that’s what it’s called! Yeah you’re right. Titan is something similar from another franchise but I can’t think of what it is. Thank you for catching me. But still, I think that would’ve been cool. Showing the dangers of the product, even in small doses.

[@myztik5716]

I will not let you besmirch the good name of Anne Hathaway. Her Catwoman was great

[@makingthings277]

Riley's got... PINK 🎶 Nah-nah-naAH EYE 🎶 Nah-na-na-naAH!

[@crazysivs]

That cable was connected to that transformer……

[@Illindi]

45:00 - not sex work, "all that work for something as trivial as money and selling out" kind of exchange. Selina is always referred as a waitress when working and a thief outside. The bat and the cat is her tagline last attempt to get him...

[@sodiizaguirre6438]

Pura madre

[@crazysivs]

Andy serkis didnt have that much of a screen time for us to register him IMO

[@Illindi]

40:00 - He is still in control of the Renewal fund and he has let it slide like nothing else. He should have made it work for the city and instead he let them use it for their shady deals. That's the logic. No, it wasn't slammed into the face of people with a paper. Just add 1(mayor)+1(chief)+1(DA)+1(Falcone) and get 4(Whom set it up?)

[@Sameer-es9vs]

54:36 adrenaline? bro do you even Bane?

[@MukiMuki688]

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[@reganbrannigan3006]

I’d give almost all of the movie a 9.5/10 but that last act was like a 3/10. I gave it a 9 overall because it was only really 15-20 minutes of a 3 hour movie but damn that 15-20 minutes were terrible.

[@matiasgl]

Around 18:20 you mentioned Bruce's looks were based on Kurt Cobain. Hope you noticed that Nirvana's Something in the way plays at least twice in the movie.

[@myztik5716]

They do, maybe actually watch the video before commenting whether they mention something next time, yeah?

[@matiasgl]

Yes you did notice it played twice :)

[@matiasgl]

@@myztik5716 Keep walking.

[@FakebookFriend]

Am I the only one who noticed he used his chest batarang to cut the electrical wire then loses it? It’s significant because the bat symbol is made of the gun used to murder his parents. It was symbolically him shifting from vengeance to hope. It was a nice touch.

[@luckysolve]

Yeah, that was shot as a death scene intentionally because it was the death of vengeance right before he becomes the beacon of hope.

[@FakebookFriend]

@@luckysolve yeah, good point. It was a really well thought out moment.

[@mosheep]

"The bat symbol being made from the gun that used to murder his parents" was mostly fan theory. I haven't seen anything that backs it up

[@filthyneutral5801]

Yes you're ready only one

[@FakebookFriend]

@@mosheep eh maybe. I haven’t heard anything contradict it either, and it definitely has hand gun elements in it and it’s a nice bit of thematic texture. So that’s good enough for me!

[@BerserkBrownie]

the scene with alfred in hospital was fine by me (less emotional) as bruce just found that the sins of his father and felt betrayed that alfred didnt tell him about it or that he painted a wrong picture that he has been a crime fighter but maybe his own family might have been involved in few?... so he was i love you alfred but you really did me wrong so i'll be here but i need you to be honest with me

[@virgil.alonso]

CAR CHASE IN THE RAIN. thats crazy

[@DanielRut]

I thought at first the Batman was trying to play dumb with the "rat with wings"

[@kkp0]

You guys should see Sound of Metal!

[@alandworsky8926]

Rat with wings was the Falcon! Falconi dude not a bat

[@Redd56]

Nice accidental ltt stream there boys

[@NathanielKempson]

Great movie. not as good as the dark knight but man its fun. Why does it rain so much in Gotham though? Like for real WTF is with it raining ALL THE TIME AT NIGHT!?

[@m.faizsalman4950]

1:00:53

[@jonhughes4079]

I hated the flying squirrel suit. Loved the movie, but give me the cape flying, I don't care if it's les realistic haha

[@joebojanic1905]

1. You guys were mixing up Carmine Falcone and Salvatore Maroni. 2. The Batmobile revving I thought was a bad time for a comedic moment. The car stalls while he's revving it. 3. The line that shows Riddler didn't know he was Batman was "Bruce Wayne is the only one we didn't get." 4. I thought the dark hallway scene looked awesome but my thing was he was taking so many shots point blank through the whole movie and his cowl was just leather. Nobody could hit his head? P.S. I still don't think Catwomen closed the fridge door. Lol

[@phattiger1506]

Re 2: I don't think it was a comedic moment, or intended as such, I think it was more intended like an animal lurching on a leash. Definitely an odd choice.

[@howarddaftduck2780]

@@phattiger1506 exactly he didn't stall it. He was just reving and threatening them with his bad ass car.

[@ayamsk4246]

He gets shot in the head twice in the film, once by Penguin and once by a riddler goon. His cowl is Bullet proof too.

[@joebojanic1905]

@Ayam SK if you look at the movie posters with close ups of the mask it's clearly leather. The stitching is very clear and the part over his nose is also leather. I'm not saying the costume was bad, I liked it I just would have pefered him be more careful about dodging the shots. His suit would have needed to be some massive metallic armor to take the shots they way it was. Including the mask.

[@joebojanic1905]

If he didn't stall the car it was not clear. It looked like he was revving then it shut down. Then he had to restart it to start chasing Penguin.

[@filiprochette7793]

Not necessarily better than The Dark Knight, but I find it better than the first movie batman begins. It's a way better introduction to this world.

[@tehgman2]

I am sad that no one mentions Batman v Superman. That movie had batman be scary.

[@Tensta16361]

I loved the way he emerges from the shadows, those heavy steps and metal sound. Like a fucking dark KNIGHT

[@mik29k]

I watched it in theatre, but it would be more enjoyable on amoled display.

[@G0nZ4Low]

DUN, DUN DUN, DUUUN. DUN, DUN DUN, DUUUN. DUN, DUN DUN, DUUUN.

[@deadrubyroadshow5825]

His notebook is actually a ledger actually because he’s an account

[@MarkHawk]

Turning Red with Sarah and Special Guests Madison!

[@Asymptote]

Think “The Batman” comes from the og comics sharing the same name. Later on they removed “the” and just stuck to Batman

[@M._mkid]

I watched the movie on Saturday march 5th

[@MrML4L]

amzing how this film has so many defenders of its faults when alot of it comes down to lazy and kinda dumb writing. this film makes you wanna think its smart and its really not.

[@Dvilchez91]

The Batman >> TDK

[@PumpiPie]

The gun scene 15:17. Dont like it. Becouse it is to unrealistic for me :/ It like kill the movie for me xD

[@beaniiman]

"Who are you?"

[@maardi]

xcited :)

[@keatonburson2996]

I got the Elden ring Platinum. Got to say you’re wrong af lol

[@purrpleunicorn]

his name was "hush"

[@votdfak]

Everyone under mask is working for me in this movie, without no so much. John Turturro is awful (he needs prosthetics too, like Penguin).

[@benGman69]

30:33 ✅

[@zeveroarerules]

It made me think of Sin City tbh.

[@JosephHerzog]

Came here just to say I wasn’t in love with the riddler once his mask comes off. Wasn’t as enticed by Dano’s mask-off Performance, it was kinda monotone. Movie overall was great though

[@Taigirr]

I feel like the last word you'd use to describe his performance is monotone lol

[@robabiera733]

Caring for others does not mean living for them.

[@artofdarkness1]

??? What's this now playing thing?? Feels out of place. I like this podcast because it's just about the movie and I recommend it to others because of this reason. It takes me out of things when it's LTT talk and their gaming backgrounds

[@matthughes1901]

Jesus Christ, the movie is only like three hours long

[@ReeMeePlee]

Guys, you are missing it Bat Man is on the spectrum