Do they always call your bluff? Also, here are the 5 hands that good poker players never play: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6bSiKODYq18q7M
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
Nope! I tell a pretty good story most of the time. And like you said, to be viable we only need one of three to get through with larger pots. Sound advice. Your info is priceless, really. Btw, interested in more vids on spotting tells. What YOU see in some pros. No names of course as that's your wisdom vault. Tourney AND cash games, por favor!
@Jakeeey922 жыл бұрын
Never bluff against players who don't know how to play poker very well.
@williamjackson88362 жыл бұрын
I get screwed all the time by this on online poker
@Cba4092 жыл бұрын
Yup, noobs call every time
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the scenario, obviously. Mostly true. Noobs notoriously can't handle pressure. But like Nathan said, the greens will call you down with top pair. You'll know if they have top pair by how they play the hand. Flop doesn't help em, they're out of the hand a larger percentage of the time than seasoned profitable amateurs and pros. Which is why the C bet is so important. I also realize that many of the online poker sites are overseas and that they make the most money when you refill/rebuy. I am stoked about moving to Vegas in March, April. Legit online poker sites and lots of low-hanging fruit (tourists) at outlying casinos off the strip.
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
@@williamjackson8836 Upload Nathan's charts, dude! They're badass! Polk's are excellent as well.
@DescartesRenegade Жыл бұрын
But some who don't play well overfold and get bluffed extremely easily.
@maxbgc3950 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I don’t know this self improvement path anymore
@drdrayfromla992 жыл бұрын
Great advice as always Nate especially going over player dependent bluffs. I play plo 80% of the time now and I don’t even attempt to bluff the fish and calling stations even if I’m holding the nut flush blocker (or straight blockers) as they will always call down no matter what lower flush they have. But against the tag regs, I’ll do it all day.
@BlackRain79Poker11 ай бұрын
Glad my poker videos are helping you, thanks for watching!
@russlehman20702 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that getting caught bluffing isn't entirely a bad thing, as you will get more action when you do have a hand if your opponents know you are capable of bluffing.
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
That is correct! Sometimes proper strategy is "looking like a fish", or purposely making fishy mistakes and letting everyone see it. Correct Nate?
@davidchevez46902 жыл бұрын
@@TimStJohn-zd2fx Misdirection can be very useful. Sun Tsu strategies have helped my game tremendously.
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
@@davidchevez4690 Same here. I am also careful not to break the game at the same time. I think that's when you start to realize that the only real thing separating you, me, and others from going pro, is the bankroll.
@davidchevez46902 жыл бұрын
@@TimStJohn-zd2fx Agreed.
@j00bert Жыл бұрын
Same goes for showing your cards on a successful bluff
@bigj200016 Жыл бұрын
You lightly touched on this, but I think it needs to be mentioned. Board texture and blockers are key to pulling off bluffs as well. Let’s say you don’t block flush draws on a board and the story you opponent is telling you all he has is a flush draw. And an off suit K hits on the river when you have a hand that is at best a bluff catcher. Also a good opportunity to bluff. While possible you opponent could have hit the K, if he doesn’t have KQ or AK, he’s not gonna be thrilled to call it off, especially a large bet. Same situation where you can credibly rep the A high flush draw, when the draw does come in. Good hand to put maximum pressure on opponents, especially on turn. But you said it right. The story has to make sense. You can’t check call the whole way and then simply fire on the river when the board texture doesn’t change.
@McRuffin2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you’re not opening this pre flop from utg or hijack 6 max. I felt that was important to mention.
@Kid.Poker33 Жыл бұрын
What is preventing you from moving up in stakes Mr. BlackRain79
@stirfrybry12 жыл бұрын
I don't bluff much. Might bluff in position with ace after everyone checked, but other than that, I never bluff. I like to semi bluff with straight draws and flush draws or mostly make big calls instead of trying to bet myself. I love to let others lead out and then call or reraise. I try to make my value bets look like a bluff
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
I do understand. I also realized for me personally, it's Wayyyy tougher to make any real money without bluffing. I think the pros agree it's all timing and telling a convincing story without giving away any tells, which goes without saying.
@cwaatti Жыл бұрын
I think you might be one of the poker types 😮
@morganspector51612 жыл бұрын
I find the C-bet is a winning bet more than 30% of the time. Yeah, floating the flop can be great but this is a dry board and if you don't keep the pressure on someone will apply the pressure to you. Remembering Doyle's maxim that "hold 'em is all about putting your opponent to a decision for all his chips." That's a compelling consideration pre-flop and on every street after
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
100%, dude! Amen!
@JohnSmith-nx7zj Жыл бұрын
It’s not a float if you’re the preflop raiser and it’s checked to you. A float would be if the big blind raise preflop and then bet the flop and you call.
@Gos12345672 жыл бұрын
Do we even need to cbet this flop,?what worst hands are calling and what better hands are folding,we have some SDV with A9 and no turn cards that can give us a straight or flush or even gutter to barrel with.
@nitthegrit75442 жыл бұрын
Great informational video, as always, Nathan. Thank you! One aspect of running these bluffs that I would include in your advice is that the sizing of your bets on each street really does matter. It's one thing to effectively represent a range of hands that connects with the flop, turn, and river, but it's quite another thing to size your bets in such a way that it looks like you're betting for value rather than to force folds.
@BlackRain79Poker11 ай бұрын
Glad my poker videos are helping you, thanks for watching!
@walterfisher5749 Жыл бұрын
Again, good advice. Last time I played, I burned off about $180 on a hand triple barreling. I don't do it a lot. Raised from BB with AK suited. Two callers. Flop is 6-J-3 Two hearts. I lead and button calls. One other guy folds. Turn is a 10 so I have two overs, gut and pretty sure two live overs. I continue my story. Button after a long think calls. River is a 4 and pot is now pretty big. I shove (to about 2/3 the pot) and guy now insta calls and rolls pocket 7's. I hadn't been at the table that long, and had no real read on the guy. I guess I went with the fact he took a while on the turn to make the call. Obviously, he was going to call off with his 7's probably in about any situation. Maybe there are some cards he could have come up with a fold on. I don't fault my play, really. But I did get up and move to another table. Everyone saw my triple barrel. I'd never shown anything but winners to that point. Based on limited info, I truly though the guy was ready for a fold. Sometimes, you get caught. But I don't think I was crazy here. Guy obviously a calling station, but had no real info on it prior. Any thoughts here?
@misterx6276 Жыл бұрын
What you said was right, after calling the turn, its a very low % he folds the river on a 4. AK stands for always killed in cash games. It's a trouble hand, so many times.
@kentdavies1988 Жыл бұрын
@@misterx6276 no is not... AK is fucking awesome
@stravs80972 жыл бұрын
What size are these bluffs? What size was the initial raise? What is the stack size of your stack vs TAG stack? Are these variables at all mentioned in your poker books, or do you not consider them relevant? Honest question I think, as they are almost never mentioned in your videos.
@Gos12345672 жыл бұрын
I think its the overall concept he is trying to get across,nitty specifics will confuse people
@PokerMonkey2 жыл бұрын
I rarely do bluff, but I was in a $130 , $3K Turbo yesterday and needed to chip up, so on a flop of KKJ, I go All in with A,8 suited. Another guy calls with 7,7 after tanking a minute. Fortunately I turned the Ace and doubled up ! Later on I'm needing to chip up again and go All In , in middle position with Q,J suited. I get called by a guy with 6,3 !! He turns a 3 and rivers a 6 ! OMG. That's poker. I was out of that tournament.
@KPT6022 жыл бұрын
I would have snap called your all in on the flop of KKJ too - cuz if you had a K, you're checking, and if you had a jack, you're betting RARELY.
@PJL70952 жыл бұрын
@@KPT602 depends on board & game texture. If it’s a KdKhJd you may want to shove in order to avoid those fishing for a flush.
@slowery43 Жыл бұрын
Wow that s so completely not at all interesting.. you think people came here to listen to your generic beat story? Wow. This isn't about you
@PokerMonkey Жыл бұрын
@@slowery43 Here’s an idea: Go pound sand.
@PJL70952 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 from you is not to play A/9 off
@Gos12345672 жыл бұрын
lol nit
@stirfrybry12 жыл бұрын
Nathan, you talked about how to make your story believable, but the other half of the equation is figuring out what your opponent is calling with. Like if the flop came with two spades and your bluff got called there's a good chance your opponent is on a flush draw. Telling the good story is important but so is making sure you're not throwing chips away
@michaelstephens98522 жыл бұрын
That's why he explained board texture. You need the correct board vrs holdings to triple barrel.
@JPLooney2 жыл бұрын
What he said, also remember, its not JUST the story "You're trying too tell, but the story that you're opponent is telling YOU" ... Both your stories together must make sense..
@davidchevez46902 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nate, your advice is $$$.
@BlackRain79Poker2 жыл бұрын
No prob David, glad my videos are helping you!
@stravs80972 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why it's assumed TAG player has low pocket pair here? If someone raises from the button and it's a LAG type player, I might just call with my QQ, QJ and even AT holdings, not to mention sets of 66's and 44's if I know the LAG is going to be true to form and smack every street with a bet. Even if I have just a small set on the flop and LAG bombs the river after betting flop and turn, I'm not likely to put him or her exactly on AT (nut straight).
@dakid23232 жыл бұрын
Good points, lots to think about. I don't bluff a lot since I play at lower tables where people go all in with top pair decent kicker. But I appreciate the real tips you're dishing out, thanks!
@BlackRain79Poker2 жыл бұрын
Glad my vids are helping you Da Kid!
@rionnation97002 жыл бұрын
u still never know what they could have either pocket 6s. always trust ur feelings
@jasonandkathleenbarker6306 Жыл бұрын
Where I play they call everything. So you can’t bluff, but if you flop a set of flush just bet big and you’ll get called
@j00bert Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need a new crew to play with. These guys are better off playing slots
@gregjohnson43 Жыл бұрын
This totally confused me. TAG calls the pre flop and flop bet. If he has a Q, it's QJ QK etc. Now he has two pair more than I do. I have AK he doesn't. I have AQ he likely 3 bet that. Other than KK and QQ what premiums do I have!? How many villains make it to the river w 99? I play low stakes and I wouldn't bluffthe river K. They are not folding any Q. Maybe I don't play against any real TAGs.
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank You, Nathan. Very helpful. Yes, the story needs to be convincing.
@BlackRain79Poker2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TimStJohn-zd2fx2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackRain79Poker Haven't seen a vid yet that wasn't helpful. Because, at the point we think we know everything, we cease to learn. When unteachable, a basic knowledge can take you only so far and in lower stakes, especially. I play a soft seat or two here in AZ. It's exactly like you say, in that if you want to make money, you don't play as many regs as you do fish. If we watch sharks in high stakes, the pros that take home thousands, hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions, they don't eat one another until the end, really. Right? The bulk of the eating, anyway and depending on the game of course, is consuming a diet of primary softer slower fish. I am not EVEN a shark, nor do I consider myself one. It's almost a degrade to poker players to call certain players "sharks" because of all the work they/we put into finding, studying and consuming fish. the study of their body language, tendencies, habits (many of which you have pointed out). Anyway, I woop the same people at the bar all the time and they either myself or the dealer are cheating them. Truth is, they probably think poker is all luck, or something. I don't know, but they lose consistently because they don't take pro advice from all parts of poker, especially the areas they're weak in. Obviously (to a large degree) these people are unreachable and consequently do not grow as poker players. One last thing. My opinion for what it's worth to anyone... is that as poker players, to really make leaps on our game, we have to truly love the game itself. That being said, there is no game I enjoy playing more. Football is a close second. Good luck out there. I appreciate you very much! Badass knowledge.
@Thundermikeee Жыл бұрын
I like watching Videos and learning about poker, but since I really can't afford to play cash games, none of it really matters. If you are playing with some virtual currency, people will just call call call all day. I saw a guy go all in preflop with 3-9 off and he fucking won the hand as well, catching two pairs against pocket kings... what a mad world we live in sometimes
@TheWakeUpChannel2 жыл бұрын
this is legit for most games. micros? not usually.
@joefisher77922 жыл бұрын
You know this this thing the story is got to hold true like I don't know how many extra wins I get on many times I didn't call but it's funny you're holding top pair is nothing no one else can do a less time but the guys betting like crazy lol
@keysersoze8762 Жыл бұрын
bluffing with next to zero equity is a no-no
@tomwalker98362 жыл бұрын
Problem is they call you all the way with 96c
@stravs80972 жыл бұрын
TAG's aren't likely to call with such a hand, but stations do.
@tylerabbott51872 жыл бұрын
If the bb 3 bets in that first scenario are you instant folding your ace 9 off or calling the 3 bet to flop?
@patricostlund45262 жыл бұрын
Fold
@wesleydiolata34672 жыл бұрын
This makes more sense great video 👍
@BlackRain79Poker11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@adrianmuresan7764 Жыл бұрын
aaand the opponent shows pocket 6s hahaha, we need to live to fight another day.
@stormwatch012 жыл бұрын
With my luck on the table i run into pocket 6 or 4 🤪
@Oblivioustotruth2 жыл бұрын
That check call all streets
@cwaatti Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind your image at the table as well.
@joefisher77922 жыл бұрын
Hey I like everything you do doesn't matter what but hold true to some of those things you stick to your maker style signature and I remember you asking if in this game is a little rigged in a way . That was a while ago and I've come to tell you that the answer came to me just sitting here today . Yes I know you want to play poker your way and this is what you tell yourself to understand that you don't play your way because there's this computer that has a number generator and you play it their way it's way like sometime you play it in such a way never seen before. Or don't you I know you sometimes play like the other ones are playing trying to figure outevrything but you never really get to play like you really want man has only his confidence he'll pick the next pair that will win every time never missing a beet you must concede to the computer am I correct.
@MelloYellow20992 жыл бұрын
Love got vids but ngl unwatch it in 1.5 speed because you talk slow haha.
@krs27172 жыл бұрын
First comment! Thanks for all the good advice
@supremeleaderarmy91642 жыл бұрын
First comment? People claim that these days?
@BlackRain79Poker2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rickroll9086 Жыл бұрын
Terminology is so stupid. Broadway cards, C bet, triple barrel bluff, button, TAG etc. Its not that complicated, so ‘experts’ make up terms to make poker sound like more difficult than it is.