Relationships and Complex Trauma - Part 11/11 - When to End One

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Tim Fletcher

Tim Fletcher

5 жыл бұрын

When to end a relationship.
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@melissaberman8244
@melissaberman8244 2 ай бұрын
Abusers are smart. They groom, isolate and control…gradually gaslighting and manipulating you into believing that your diminished self is actually evidence that you… blah blah blah… what I wouldn’t give to have those 20 years back!!! Hind sight. When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!!! And, believe me, it doesn’t get better, at least not for long. RUN!!!
@rosierb852
@rosierb852 2 ай бұрын
They’re smart at being evil and manipulative nothing else. They’re not very intelligent at self-reflection nor introspection
@milos4378
@milos4378 Ай бұрын
They arent smart. It is just you are a nice person who would never do that. But abusers arent smart. Anything but. Otherwise they would figure out they got a great catch and could live a life of happiness but instead they make life hell for the great catch and themselves.
@positvgal8
@positvgal8 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@lulucestmoi8797
@lulucestmoi8797 26 күн бұрын
​@@milos4378very well said👏👏👏
@mlou7432
@mlou7432 2 ай бұрын
Stayed in a toxic marriage 34 years- I was raised as a Christian, that I had to forgive; to coddle bad behavior. Bad behavior increased & the golden rule never worked. The church/ religion set me up as a fool. (My walk with God set me free!) Forgiveness heals, but don’t keep subjecting yourself to the offender.
@godzillamanstreb524
@godzillamanstreb524 2 ай бұрын
Golden rule definitely doesn’t work for narcs
@NewMe-iq5os
@NewMe-iq5os 2 ай бұрын
I got out after 32 years of marriage. There is life after a toxic relationship. Glad you are out and hopefully healing!
@deirdremorris9234
@deirdremorris9234 2 ай бұрын
​@@NewMe-iq5osWas their something that gave you a revelation that it was okay to put You first?
@happygilmore3706
@happygilmore3706 2 ай бұрын
@@deirdremorris9234the word says to love your neighbor as yourself. You can’t love others if you don’t recognize your worth as a son/daughter of God. Letting someone abuse you is not loving them. I finally realized boundaries are not just for me but for them as a form of love. How can they ever change and grow without boundaries. I set boundaries from a place of love not hatred in my heart. And I let God deal with them. I am not their savior but I know Jesus can save them if they decide to come to Jesus with their own will.
@deirdremorris9234
@deirdremorris9234 2 ай бұрын
@@happygilmore3706 Agree. I was wondering what set in motion, the lady above, to love herself enough to leave.
@Paula-hb9dg
@Paula-hb9dg Ай бұрын
I was married for 37 years to an abusive guy. It was hard to divorce him because I was fearful of what he might do to me . He was very explosive which kept me in line and I was fearful from leaving . He isolated me from family and friends . He lied about an illness . I started therapy and joined a 12 step program and that gave me a little glimmer of hope that I can get out of the relationship which I did 2 yrs ago. I had to do a lot of work on myself as to why I allowed someone to treat me so poorly . It is a lot of work but worth it .
@Selsmittenxo
@Selsmittenxo 23 күн бұрын
So happy you're out of that and safe now ❤
@zf-xi6ds
@zf-xi6ds 14 күн бұрын
You're a pucking warrior. You're stronger than most people today
@emiliaabeyta159
@emiliaabeyta159 Жыл бұрын
They will jeopardize your finances, your health and your time. And leave you with nothing.
@sunnyside2212
@sunnyside2212 Ай бұрын
Truth!
@trina1962
@trina1962 Ай бұрын
Yes ma'am.
@positvgal8
@positvgal8 Ай бұрын
That's what I allowed to me💔😢
@estelled389
@estelled389 Ай бұрын
Literally...your health is GONE .
@lala5061
@lala5061 Ай бұрын
Yes yes yeeeeeessssss 😢
@cl4241
@cl4241 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Jesus for bringing me to this series
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway Ай бұрын
god is not an algorithm
@marthawhite3353
@marthawhite3353 2 ай бұрын
My last partner kept saying that he "couldn't stop being who he was," which was very angry. "I can't control my anger," which is ridiculous because he was not angry with everyone, he could control who he showed his anger to. I broke up more times than I can remember, yet he would always come back - and I was afraid of him. It really is hard to get rid of these toxic people, they are crazy-making, manipulative, and ultimately very scary and dangerous on a profound level. This time, I am hoping it is truly done. I was done a long time ago, but his persistence was disturbing, a complete lack of respect for my boundaries. I am working on NO!
@cindipierce1478
@cindipierce1478 2 ай бұрын
I live with one of these types also, I believe I know your feelings too! They are very mentally exhausting depleting people to deal with
@franco2b145
@franco2b145 Ай бұрын
Lord!! Just got rid of a narcissist!! Two years toooo long.. It’s done! All avenues blocked and locked! Took myself to the clinic & got a full STD panel, I’m freeeeee!!! Thank you Jesus, lesson learnt. 🙌🏾
@christinejames5631
@christinejames5631 Ай бұрын
Why is it that we can't see the full extent to thier manipulative behaviour whilst we are in it. When finally out of it, it becomes very clear each and every interaction, was abuse.
@lulucestmoi8797
@lulucestmoi8797 26 күн бұрын
Sounds like this could have been me writing this🙏🏻 what a nightmare we are in. What horrid people they are. Dangerous. My health is so bad because of this evil man.🤦‍♀️🙏🏻
@lawrencedavis5459
@lawrencedavis5459 7 ай бұрын
I've worked in addiction. This mans talks are absolutely incredible. I've learned so much.
@godzillamanstreb524
@godzillamanstreb524 Ай бұрын
Me too….simply the best on KZbin
@user-mh7cn2fp1v
@user-mh7cn2fp1v Ай бұрын
Same!
@jenniferlane40
@jenniferlane40 3 ай бұрын
After I moved into the other bedroom. He tried to get me to drink with him at Christmas in hopes that he would get lucky. Knowing that I used to be a bad alcoholic and can not drink. Thank you for what you do. It has helped me to understand a lot of things that I was confused about. Now, I know I do not have to feel guilty about standing up for and protecting myself.
@a.d.b535
@a.d.b535 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Willing to tempt you with the poison. Hard to deny he acted out of self-interest.
@paulalane8638
@paulalane8638 Ай бұрын
Mine does not want to stop drinking. He hides hard stuff from me but I know. I stopped too. He has lots of anger. I can't talk to him. Never know when I'll set him off. It's a toxic existence. My health is bad because of it. I have nowhere to go.
@jenniferlane40
@jenniferlane40 Ай бұрын
@paulalane8638 Give your heart and soul to Jesus. He will lead you where to go. He will help you get out. I plead the blood of Jesus over you and pray that God make provision for you to get free, in Jesus name, Amen.
@paulalane8638
@paulalane8638 Ай бұрын
@@jenniferlane40Thank you! I belong to Jesus. He has not said for me to go at this time. He is faithful even in our suffering.
@Monkchip
@Monkchip Ай бұрын
I feel your discontent.​@@paulalane8638
@hippiecowgirl4231
@hippiecowgirl4231 Ай бұрын
God i needed to hear this . Im turning 60 tomorrow and mu gift to myself is going to be my freedom from a man who has been dishonest , deceitful, disloyal, disrespectful, and unfaithful. Ive fallen for the " i will be a better man for you" line more times than i want to think about . Despite knowing for a fact its all bullshit. Ive put up with behavior that never should be tolerated. I accept my part in allowing it to happen. So im taking responsibility for stopping it. NOW. TODAY. IT ENDS. Happy Birthday to the new, free me !!!!!!!
@micheller5153
@micheller5153 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Fletcher, I lived this way far too long. Not doing it now at 55. Wish this could be taught to young people. Very important info. God Bless you.
@kasonadrien1585
@kasonadrien1585 2 жыл бұрын
I realize it is pretty off topic but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online?
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 2 жыл бұрын
It's ok to hurt someone's feelings. You need to protect yourself. 👌🏻🙌🏻💜
@user-bz5oj5qj7l
@user-bz5oj5qj7l 2 ай бұрын
Yes but that's also exactly what a narcissist would say.
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 2 ай бұрын
@@user-bz5oj5qj7l yes, and, it's all about the intent. Do you do it on purpose because it brings you pleasure? Or do you do it because the relationship is not healthy/not a good fit for you so you know the other person can take it so that both of you will be better off seeking a different (more healthier) person or one that's a good fit (good fit = not complex trauma inducing)
@oliviacadena2036
@oliviacadena2036 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@happygilmore3706
@happygilmore3706 2 ай бұрын
@@alexandrugheorghe5610exactly. What is the condition of your heart. Setting boundaries with someone who abuses is a form of love to them and to you. How else can they potentially change without them.
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 2 ай бұрын
@@happygilmore3706 bullseye.
@scottxu3587
@scottxu3587 2 жыл бұрын
Life-changing lecture, many many thanks from a Chinese guy in Ethiopia
@claudiabannister6414
@claudiabannister6414 11 ай бұрын
😂
@williammartin6643
@williammartin6643 3 ай бұрын
How'd you end up there my man?
@agent1.618
@agent1.618 2 ай бұрын
​@@williammartin6643colonialism
@rosierb852
@rosierb852 2 ай бұрын
Damn I wasn’t expecting that.
@BeMe33
@BeMe33 Ай бұрын
“Become convinced that you’re valuable enough to protect” 💜
@septemberdawnluketz
@septemberdawnluketz 11 ай бұрын
For Anyone going through this, a great read is Dr. David Hawkin’s book, “when loving him is hurting you.” Another Christian perspective for women healing from narcissistic abuse.
@allisonb.8492
@allisonb.8492 7 ай бұрын
thank you!
@vanessahollenbach85
@vanessahollenbach85 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for commenting this. I'm interested in having more Christian perspective of this situation
@marthareichhold8201
@marthareichhold8201 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for suggesting this book!
@jac1161
@jac1161 Ай бұрын
nurses: "I'm dying to take care of you"....same theme
@emiliaabeyta159
@emiliaabeyta159 Жыл бұрын
It's sad to see someone you care about end up dying or suffering serious consequences. Sometimes we need to accept the fact we cannot change others.😅
@rosierb852
@rosierb852 2 ай бұрын
My mom was one of them
@UrbanCommentBot
@UrbanCommentBot 4 ай бұрын
No one ever taught or modeled these things. My experience growing up in religion is that i was told that i must forgive and hold onto the promises and be spiritually minded.... but all that taught ppl was that they can behave badly and that i wouldn't leave or do anything about it. In the season of unlearning a lot of things while getting divorced.
@SamO-mh8vs
@SamO-mh8vs 3 ай бұрын
We are to forgive so we will be forgiven. Doesn’t mean to forget or trust again. We forgive the person not sin. Hope this helps. God Bless
@rakelpeneyambeko
@rakelpeneyambeko 3 ай бұрын
Religion in the hands of unsafe and unhealthy people is a weapon fashioned against souls. But relationship with Jesus is what one needs not a bunch of twisted scriptures in favour of toxic people.
@Gotprivacy-noyoudont
@Gotprivacy-noyoudont 3 ай бұрын
@@SamO-mh8vsthat’s a load of bs.
@laxmijagadeesan1328
@laxmijagadeesan1328 3 ай бұрын
Same here....
@amberdetwiler9786
@amberdetwiler9786 2 ай бұрын
I can empathize on you with this! One thing I learned in my adult life is is that there are no prizes for martyrdom 😂. If I should be persecuted for the cause of Christ, so be it. However, it is totally different to keep walking back into abuse and acting like it's my "cross to bear".
@sucheta8619
@sucheta8619 3 жыл бұрын
I think I should have seen this video 25 years ago my life would have been much easier
@godzillamanstreb524
@godzillamanstreb524 2 ай бұрын
40+ yrs ago for me
@user-fy8jx4qk6v
@user-fy8jx4qk6v 2 ай бұрын
Me too 😔
@positvgal8
@positvgal8 Ай бұрын
Me too😢 35+ years
@angelaraycroft233
@angelaraycroft233 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@godzillamanstreb524
@godzillamanstreb524 Ай бұрын
Isn’t that the truth
@ThanaAnsari
@ThanaAnsari Жыл бұрын
One strike: give them a break, they’re mortal. Two strikes: take a break from the relationship. Three strikes: just break up. End of PSA.
@milesdecker1
@milesdecker1 11 ай бұрын
I like that strike one: give them a break, strike two: take a break, strike three: break up!!!
@DivineOne-lt3wf
@DivineOne-lt3wf 2 ай бұрын
I’m at twenty strikes currently 😭
@shereses.3298
@shereses.3298 2 ай бұрын
​@DivineOne-lt3wf Gurl.....how much you have left in you, it seems like you are really hurting 💯
@martingd777
@martingd777 2 ай бұрын
Some healing is very profound.. 1 step forward 10 back. Just do your best, use your logic AND your heart.
@pobrien6630
@pobrien6630 Ай бұрын
Bullshit...one strike can be enough depending on the situation.
@zulekaebrahim-qi1dh
@zulekaebrahim-qi1dh 11 ай бұрын
5 misconceptions of love - these were so important for me to listen to, I have been a doormat for too long and never had boundaries
@godzillamanstreb524
@godzillamanstreb524 2 ай бұрын
Me too! No more
@PassionateFlower
@PassionateFlower 2 ай бұрын
If someone keeps f*cking with your head and you've already explained to them that it's not okay with you and they keep acting remorseless then it's intentional and you don't owe them a break up just ghost and block. No explanation for your absence is necessary at all. They meant to harm you and meant to continue to harm you. On purpose.
@fittyleben9680
@fittyleben9680 2 ай бұрын
But two wrongs don’t make a right. This is what is wrong with people. The person in the right still needs to keep their integrity and do right by their own morals. “Ghosting” is a last ditch effort to hurt the other person. Then, knowingly or unknowingly, you will carry that around in your heart. It’s not healthy plain and simple. Face the problem. Break up. Move forward with a clear conscience….sorry I know you got a lot of upvotes because ppl love blood and revenge, but it’s not the right thing to do. Good luck.
@eclectigirl
@eclectigirl 2 ай бұрын
No. They don't deserve it and they'll just make more drama. You're acting like a narcissist is capable of mutuality or taking accountability.
@fittyleben9680
@fittyleben9680 2 ай бұрын
@@eclectigirl it’s not about them. It’s about your own mind, heart, and soul. Can’t you see that you’re just playing into the same toxic cycle that got you where you are in the first place? The people who fall into these codependent relationships with narcissists are toxic as well. They have to grow up and change too - that’s why this man is teaching you. CHANGE…you just can’t see it because your heart is hardened by the pain. I hope one day you do.
@eclectigirl
@eclectigirl 2 ай бұрын
You waste your time trying to get water from an empty vessel. You do you.
@fittyleben9680
@fittyleben9680 2 ай бұрын
@@eclectigirl okay so now you’ve gone cryptic mage/seer? lol dude I’m saying that the imposition of your heart is still incorrect and you’re doomed to repeat your mistakes if you maintain that posture. Your pithy little quote is completely irrelevant to this conversation. Doing the upright thing is not about any other person or “vessel”…it’s not so you can gain anything from them. You literally just can’t see it. Good luck with your resentments.
@amandabrits6110
@amandabrits6110 2 ай бұрын
Staying in a toxic relationship for 19 years, destroyed me and my children. One of my kids is tolerating an Abusive girlfriend because I modeled it. 7 years ago I was told by a pastor that a women of my age will end up growing old alone. I was told by another that marriage is a covenant and although my husband broke his side by infidelity I have not and my covenant is still standing. I was told my job is to pray for him to be restored. By the grace of God, He restores my soul, my life, my relationships
@ec1222
@ec1222 2 ай бұрын
What garbage - you can’t be in a marriage of 1! The covenant is broken when one refuses to keep to the terms and conditions (ie, infidelity in your husbands case) - that was when the covenant broke. We are not in unilateral covenants like God made with his people, they are bilateral, and breakable, because of ‘the hardness of our hearts’ (ie, hardhearted behaviour is betraying your spouse). God himself is a double divorcee in the Old Testament.
@jeanannedupratt7075
@jeanannedupratt7075 29 күн бұрын
​@@ec1222wow, where did you find this evidence please. Which chapter of the 2nd testament ?
@carolgarrett1786
@carolgarrett1786 3 ай бұрын
What he had to say about forgiveness and how it works is golden. VERY helpful!
@ThingsILove2266
@ThingsILove2266 Ай бұрын
What exactly did he say? I missed that part:(
@robins3672
@robins3672 Ай бұрын
Relationship analogy… You break a plate once it can be glued back together and be pretty much good as new. If you break it twice, it can be repaired but won’t be as strong as before. If you break it a third time, you might as well throw it away and get a new plate.
@bronwynsimons7028
@bronwynsimons7028 Ай бұрын
The story of Joseph, like I've never heard it before. Love it😊 It teaches me, that no matter what the enemy does to destroys God's plans for me I will keep on trusting God and doing good Until His promise to me is finally fulfilled 🎉 He will work all things together for my good
@sarahbyrne8501
@sarahbyrne8501 2 жыл бұрын
This man could bring a man to Jesus. Amen.
@suadasuehuseinovic2472
@suadasuehuseinovic2472 18 күн бұрын
I’ve been in one VERY toxic relationship for 15 years from 19-34 & never ever again. I was so depressed to start over in my mid 30s but NEVER would put myself through that AGAIN Period !!
@jennifercoleman5159
@jennifercoleman5159 24 күн бұрын
I ended my relationship with my boyfriend six weeks ago. It’s the first time I’ve stood up for myself by exiting first. That is growth! I’m in a lot of pain and I realize I put myself in that path. But I will never go back to him. We went to counseling for 10 months and I worked the exercises. He would not. Actively recalcitrant in front of the counselor. Ironically, it was his idea to go to counseling. Thank you so much for this video. I know in my heart that I did everything that I could, and I was clear in my intention with him all along. Even in my reactive triggered states, I was journaling and doing workbooks and watching videos and going to counseling. I noticed the problems when they came up and I addressed them. Again, attachment styles come down to secure, anxious, preoccupied, fearful, avoidant, dismissive avoidant. I went in secure, leaning, anxious, preoccupied, warring more. He is dismissive, avoiding. Thank goodness I had the strength to walk away and most importantly, the strength to stay away.
@emiliaabeyta159
@emiliaabeyta159 Жыл бұрын
Tim Fletcher is good teacher.
@frodoggbooboo
@frodoggbooboo 2 ай бұрын
You are right. He is A good teacher.
@sabahdakroub793
@sabahdakroub793 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been living this way for almost 40 years of marriage exactly the same experiences. At 62, I am living alone but extremely to difficult for him to understand that it’s over ! Trying in different ways to come back. All my doors are sealed closed !
@yellowbird2157
@yellowbird2157 Ай бұрын
So proud of you! You are strong and will thrive! ❤
@mariaberry6874
@mariaberry6874 Ай бұрын
I wish any of the couples therapists we have visited over the years were as clear as you are. Thank you. Defining The five pillars of love is brilliant. My body can FEEL how right this is. As someone who has no intrinsic model for a healthy relationship it's easy to bamboozled into accepting crappy behaviour from partners, adult kids, colleagues. This is an empowering talk. 🙏😊
@LD-id3vy
@LD-id3vy 29 күн бұрын
When someone shows you who they are the first time believe them
@MimiMkenya
@MimiMkenya 10 күн бұрын
THIS 💯
@user-gn6jl1wg2g
@user-gn6jl1wg2g 3 ай бұрын
@Tim Fletcher.....keep doing what you do! You are very good at getting the best tools across and you make it clear for understanding.
@makaylahollywood3677
@makaylahollywood3677 Ай бұрын
I walked away from adult siblings- no talking. The actions were a group effort, cruel- during my most vulnerable time. I walked away for safety. No regrets. I thought, read and prayed. The decision was personal. Grew up with these people, this was the last straw. I lost people i wished to love..I found peace through loving myself, trusting myself- finding others capable of love.
@jac1161
@jac1161 Ай бұрын
I thought I was reading my own comment! All of it!.minus the "I lost people I wished to love"..I DID love them. I wish they'd love me." I'm glad you found others capable of love. I thought I did, but that person left me too. :(
@colleenconklined.d.5958
@colleenconklined.d.5958 9 ай бұрын
So hard to accept. After 27 years it’s so hard to walk away. I want to believe it will never happen again. Trying to find the strength. Should have left at 31, 36, 43 and now at 54. Regardless, of his promises to never do it again im pretty certain I’ll be 64 trying to pack up this pain and put it in the box. The box is full. What I don’t understand is why he won’t let me go, if he doesn’t love me. Why not just go and find someone he truly loves. Ugh.
@TheBillaro
@TheBillaro 6 ай бұрын
promises mean nothing. well he or will he not assess, accept and work to change?
@SamO-mh8vs
@SamO-mh8vs 3 ай бұрын
Possibly a narcissist? But it truly is up to you. Trust God and ask Him for help. Hope this helps you.
@NewMe-iq5os
@NewMe-iq5os 3 ай бұрын
I left after 32 years and 58 years old. He was perfectly happy in the marriage. I was very accommodating to him. Don’t wait for him to let you go, you only have 1 life. You choose how you want to live the rest of your life. It can be done and you can be happy without him.
@elleb.9881
@elleb.9881 3 ай бұрын
You are a ‘good’ supply for him. He knows exactly how to control you therefore the relationship works for him.
@NewMe-iq5os
@NewMe-iq5os 3 ай бұрын
@@elleb.9881 Lol, when I told my husband of 32 years that I wanted a divorce, he said “why, we have such a great marriage and we’re happy”. No…..he had a happy marriage because I did everything to make him happy so I wouldn’t see the narcissistic rage. I was miserable.
@shannonsnowwhite2301
@shannonsnowwhite2301 2 ай бұрын
Tim Fletcher is spot on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@SueDamron
@SueDamron 2 жыл бұрын
I know from my history, that what you say is TRUE!! I didn’t have the knowledge of my complex trauma until recently! Your videos help make sense of my entire life and difficulty with relationships! In addition, and very important, your teaching about trusting God is invaluable! HE is the trustworthy One! You helped me see how! Thank you!!
@allisonb.8492
@allisonb.8492 7 ай бұрын
yesss! agree! if only we had this info YEARS/decades ago
@Bike4Life231
@Bike4Life231 12 күн бұрын
It breaks my heart that so many people have gone through this. I was in this for 20 years and now I'm fighting to get out with my two kids. He was physically abusive to them, financially, verbally and psychologically abusive to all of us. I saw it starting to take a toll on my kids, and I finally saw, with help from a friend, how devastating it was for myself. I'm over 18 months into a horrific divorce with him, as he's trying to keep control of everything. These types of people are DANGEROUS. If you're thinking of getting out, do not tell them right away. Make a plan. Get a job, stash some cash, build your credit, document everything. And get a good therapist who is trauma informed. Do not rush through leaving. Be methodical so you are completely set up when you do leave. You are worth being loved and treated with respect and kindness.❤
@claudiabannister6414
@claudiabannister6414 11 ай бұрын
~💖~ thank you, Mr. Fletcher your message has affirmed a decision I made and followed through with earlier today....almost as if it had been dropped directly from heaven ...for such a thyme as this 🌿
@bykatesemeniuk
@bykatesemeniuk 12 күн бұрын
I am thankful to God and to my Angel for sending this preach to me. In the very end, something clicked. Puzzle pieces of my life came together. I cried hard and it was healing. Catharsis. Thank you, Mr Tim, for delivering this speech. It reaches right into my heart, not just mind. Therefore, changes happen from within.
@maraergarac4674
@maraergarac4674 Ай бұрын
Mr. Fletcher, You are the gift from God to many. I wish I had you as an adviser when I was youger, during my turbulent years in my marriage, that lasted 52 years, and cost me my health and peace dearly. But as a Christian I was devoted to my family and for that reason, nearly paid the price by my life. At least, after suffering too much and too long, I fulfilled my own promise to stand for my pride, and said goodbye to the man who was manipulative in every way possible, inspite having with him 3 children, 4 grandchildren and 3 grand grandchildren. Very sad and painful, but true story. Thank you Mr. Fletcher for your grat work and priceless help. After watching your series, I know that I've made right decision; yes it may be late, but not too late to have back my peace, to be myself again, and enjoy and love my all children, regardless my age, 75 I'll be in Sept. With all my respect, warm regards from Australia. Gods blessing to you and your loved ones 🙏🙌❤️❤️🎉🎉🎉
@chilloften
@chilloften 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so many need this thru a PA system. I’m so glad it’s here for me to learn from and get better and better at relationship. It’s hard to find folk that actually work on themselves, let alone someone healthy. Wow. Thank you for this gift to my soul. 😘
@myoldfarmhouse4316
@myoldfarmhouse4316 5 жыл бұрын
breaking up with an abusive person when you have kids is not the best choice because than that abusive person (Narcissist) will have the kids all to themselves and will twist your children against you! Drag you down still and destroy you worse!
@CMoore8539
@CMoore8539 5 жыл бұрын
Blue Skies That happened to me too. It’s a horrible thing to do to children too.
@reg8297
@reg8297 5 жыл бұрын
So true it happened to me pure evil brainwashing was done to mine
@reg8297
@reg8297 5 жыл бұрын
@@CMoore8539 I certainly wasn't going to stay but he still did damage
@maureengauthier6553
@maureengauthier6553 3 жыл бұрын
I ended a marriage of 27 years that included 5 kids...only 2 were minors at the time of the divorce, but they are all very aware of their father's NPD behavior and look out for each other.
@helenwarren5217
@helenwarren5217 2 жыл бұрын
I was so damaged from the relationship that i realized there could be no change.I gave up all my rights in so i had to leave.
@andrear6701
@andrear6701 Ай бұрын
I’ve gathered enough bad experiences yet lessons to say that anyone who is abusive, disrespectful, selfish and even who has addiction needs to be alone or they’ll bring down and destroy with them anyone around them. Someone who wants to change needs to make that decision on their own and for themselves and then they should have the luxury of a loving partner and family. This comes from someone empathetic who’s had a savior complex 😅. Lesson learned. It is wayyy to risky to allow these kinds of people into your life, your job is to protect yourself ❤
@lmoorelawpractice6214
@lmoorelawpractice6214 2 ай бұрын
Priceless. Thank you! ❤
@malindateal14
@malindateal14 Ай бұрын
This was such an incredible talk. I learned so much. Thank you for your help.
@emiliaabeyta159
@emiliaabeyta159 Жыл бұрын
It's human nature to resent someone trying to control you every move. Eventually you have to between being as much of a fake person as they are. ND LOSING YOUR OWN IDENTITY IN THE PROCESS and walkin g on egg shells , intimidation and fear. They dont want yoh, but dont want anyone else to have you. They are not the o ly one out there like that. There are many of the same types.
@allisonb.8492
@allisonb.8492 7 ай бұрын
that is so spot on
@SoulGlowHealing
@SoulGlowHealing Ай бұрын
Discovering Tim's channel in April 2024. Holy smokes I am gonna learn a lot from this man! I have complex trauma and so does my partner. We both have poor relationship skills which is why it's turned into a disaster in only a year. Sending this video to him
@yellowbird2157
@yellowbird2157 Ай бұрын
Praise God! I found Tim’s channel yesterday after - as an answer to prayer about a new relationship. In my gut I see red flags by the dozens - but I am afraid of hurting his feelings. This is exactly what I needed to hear to give me strength and courage to set a boundary and most likely end this relationship. 🙏
@74sallyrb
@74sallyrb Ай бұрын
Wow, this is so powerful, thank you @TimFletcher. Has helped to understand a lot of the components of an unhealthy, damaging, no bounderies relationship with an individual diagnosed with cptsd. Thank you for your work, very valuable😊
@angelakirk4992
@angelakirk4992 2 жыл бұрын
So inspiring thank you
@robertdeheer1307
@robertdeheer1307 Ай бұрын
Brilliant work, thank you
@amplove369
@amplove369 Ай бұрын
Your talks are worth every ad ❤😊
@pizanluv4ufranky
@pizanluv4ufranky Ай бұрын
Thank you for this!!
@Crazydoglady.
@Crazydoglady. 5 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT!! 👏👏👏
@MissMusiKmanic
@MissMusiKmanic 2 ай бұрын
Amazing Christian storey and outlook giving hope and restoring trust in God, thank you so much 🙏 ❤
@christinecervantes6527
@christinecervantes6527 Жыл бұрын
What about those who are in their late 50’s who want to stay in recovery who want to leave, but can’t because they have no friends, no money or place to go?
@allisonb.8492
@allisonb.8492 7 ай бұрын
I am in my 40's and in that same spot.
@dougcoleman8972
@dougcoleman8972 3 ай бұрын
Same39
@taleandclawrock2606
@taleandclawrock2606 2 ай бұрын
Emergency accomodation, womens/mens shelters, rent a room instead of a house, save pennies secretly until you go ( new bank account the partner is unaware of). Do not tell partner your plans, they will be sabotaged or you may be harmed. Try to act consistently to your partner so they dont suspect. Start investing in you....learn a hobby, do an online course, apply for jobs that are remote or live in positions. I hope any of these suggestions help. Life is too short to waste.
@carrieb.5896
@carrieb.5896 2 ай бұрын
Wish more folks addressed this unique female problem.
@stephanied9629
@stephanied9629 2 ай бұрын
This is where I am. Early 50s and complex reasons why it’s impossible for me to leave, financial, medical, etc….
@rain30balan39
@rain30balan39 2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent!
@denisej.smith-perry4949
@denisej.smith-perry4949 2 ай бұрын
This is so good and much needed❤❤❤ points confirmed all of my thoughts
@lizdaugherty5607
@lizdaugherty5607 Ай бұрын
I am 68 ys old and try to navigate through trauma. I have had years of , still come up short. Listening to some of your tapes made me realize i am still a hot mess! It kinda set me back a bit. I am tired of all the work we have to do just to survive and still feel like a fish out of water. Having complex trauma is a life sentence that requires constant work. I seem to do all the things you talk about that trip us up. I haven't given up but i do get derailed , by the extensiveness of my circumstances.
@user-cw7yw6er8q
@user-cw7yw6er8q Ай бұрын
God causes ALL things to work for our good. Amen! The abuse I survived as a child caused me to see my need for Him. Thankful and blessed. Thank you for your videos. ❤
@noormohamed2991
@noormohamed2991 Ай бұрын
Excellent talk ❤! Thank you 🙏
@gabrielleaumont3971
@gabrielleaumont3971 2 ай бұрын
Such interesting talks, lectures and Lessons! More, please! Blessings to you!
@Maria-eh8rn
@Maria-eh8rn 3 ай бұрын
¡Gracias!
@johnspencer1855
@johnspencer1855 Ай бұрын
I love your speeches and teaches Mr tim!
@desertdog8006
@desertdog8006 Ай бұрын
I live in the outback. 92km from neighbour. At least it makes it difficult for him to cheat. Few choices for me and moving is complicated. Life can be tough here and you really need a partner to survive. But ive learned if i love but refuse to care, it seems to work. He is actually improving but still has these total avoidance chapters. I used to be pathetically too present. Im not easy either. Caring seems to be what they take advantage of. Thank you these lectures are awesome and help me. You have brought me closer to God by making sense of Jesus too.
@hippiecowgirl4231
@hippiecowgirl4231 Ай бұрын
Love but not care . That's exactly how I deal ( dealt) with it as well. I'm so tired of being numb.
@song4mozart
@song4mozart Күн бұрын
I lost the love of my life because of my trust issues. Thanks to his love, he left me so that I would seek therapy. He says he still loves me, and he doesn't know what the future holds - only God knows, but my focus has to be on getting well for myself. I will never be happy until I love myself. I respect him for setting a boundary for himself. May God bless him always.
@FlatStella1
@FlatStella1 2 ай бұрын
Confirm! It's great!
@truthministry7462
@truthministry7462 4 ай бұрын
Powerful
@eclipsedawn9
@eclipsedawn9 2 жыл бұрын
God bless
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway Ай бұрын
pretty straightforward stuff ppl as adults should have come to already intuit. great purple color.
@NestorMaravi
@NestorMaravi 6 ай бұрын
6:13 “Non-negotiable terms.”
@lindavincent678
@lindavincent678 11 ай бұрын
I can remember every detail of the abuses, both physical and verbal. As long as I followed all the rules things we ok. Not there when I needed him. Control from the beginning but not aware of it. He has been seeing his ex. When he visits his 50 year old kids…every year for four to six weeks. Last three of his visits to Mississippi….he has lied hundreds of times. Moved his accounts out of state, guess where ? Ha. He said he was afraid of what I would do, because of his first wife
@vacooke
@vacooke 3 ай бұрын
How do you think the 4 "wives" could ever feel? The "ugly" one, the barren one, etc. Went right over that. I get the point of the story. But the misogyny. And the slaves. Yikes. So much CPTSD historical, societal.
@1stwastheword893
@1stwastheword893 Ай бұрын
thank you for retelling Joseph's story 😔🥀💔
@Sojourner-cd8go
@Sojourner-cd8go Ай бұрын
Your retelling of Jacob’s life is pretty funny 😂😂😂 😂😂. Sounds like “Days of Our Lives” “Like sands through the hourglass…” and all that. 😆. Joseph though 😔.
@song4mozart
@song4mozart Күн бұрын
an apology without change is manipulation. I am speaking for myself.
@allanhyberg8012
@allanhyberg8012 Ай бұрын
To day in general you have to remember to set boundaries by walking away fysically or psychologically.
@user-fi8tx1dg1y
@user-fi8tx1dg1y 3 күн бұрын
THANK U THANK U THANK U THANK U YHANK U THANK U THANK U !! 😊
@emiliaabeyta159
@emiliaabeyta159 Жыл бұрын
This man is right on point. Especially shen you are working towards getting healthy. And we are in denal if we believe the other person who wants to contr you under the guise of jealousy . They dont want toose control of what they get out of you includi g making you feel insignifi ant to make themselves feel right. Or they figure you don't have the guts or self esteem enough to leave the fMiliR (a bad hzbit). What you did together is no longer a part of your agenda. The unfamiliar is looking Fter yourself for a change. And drop the blinders. Either they wsnt what you have or they are not going to change and don't want to. Button pushing and rehashing is a form of msnipulation. They will use what ever card, guilt and whatever they can to manipulate you which is not good now and the argue men
@lindavincent678
@lindavincent678 11 ай бұрын
For many years, we never went anywhere together on a vacation. He always promises, but never fulfills the promises. He starts an argument or fight, and it ends everything.
@allisonb.8492
@allisonb.8492 7 ай бұрын
yessss so damn many promises.
@erikkasepiphany
@erikkasepiphany 2 ай бұрын
It’s called future faking.
@ruthsnyder8676
@ruthsnyder8676 3 ай бұрын
I decided. No cheating (that I know of) but very controlling and insanely jealous. Constant disrespect and abuse. Problem is: he wont go away! Ive told him. Hes killing me.
@er_5406
@er_5406 3 ай бұрын
You leave. Go away.
@heidigordon1868
@heidigordon1868 25 күн бұрын
21:20 this! 22:37 Over and over with the crisis management
@MkNels
@MkNels Ай бұрын
Defeated in AZ
@sarahchalwe2142
@sarahchalwe2142 Ай бұрын
This is just for me
@donnamogavero9212
@donnamogavero9212 Ай бұрын
The more I've worked on myself, so I'm doing what really makes me happy and brings me joy and try to really listen to my partner, connect with my partner.... the more she finds fault with me. The more complaining, always raising the bar on me. Going on 14 years of this. I'm a musician and have a dog walking/boarding business both of which she has supported and expressing that she loves the dogs. In all this I have tried and tried to give her special attention, take trips together, have date nights and it never matters. She wants more more more and I am exhausted. It separates us.
@donnamogavero9212
@donnamogavero9212 Ай бұрын
Oh and I tried the line of this has to change and she yells "that's who I am". Lol
@lindavincent678
@lindavincent678 11 ай бұрын
He went on many cruises, while I stayed home to take care of my mom. No support
@lindavincent678
@lindavincent678 11 ай бұрын
This last year he has been playing the victim. I put him through hell he said for five years because of an infection I developed during the habitat building stages, and he discarded me would not help me told me I was crazy and told other people I was crazy and told people many many lies, but very discreetly.
@Enfpmom
@Enfpmom 5 күн бұрын
Because if you I learned I have c-ptsd I finally feel safe.
@simonasimona6574
@simonasimona6574 4 күн бұрын
A non negotiable for me is if he is following attractive women on social media and likes their photos. I have found from a previous relationship that it is quite impossible to get over these things in the dating phase. Currently I am tying to find some excuses because we only dated once. Not sure if this is an exaggeration... but it hurt me in the past
@junepaterson2267
@junepaterson2267 Ай бұрын
Oh my. Totally true. Manipulation tactics. Buying me and my kids with money etcand thinks that solves all only theyve never actually changed
@haliec496
@haliec496 2 ай бұрын
I was told in 2 of my toxic relationships....I dont want to be with anyone who wants to change me. Now that would be a huge deal for me to end the relationship. I gave toooooo many chances. I own my disasters. No more.
@LizzPaintz
@LizzPaintz 28 күн бұрын
All your suggestions are great, and I have used them. What about family relationships and adult children? You don't me ton that in this video. Is there a video where you do address it?
@sandymarie921
@sandymarie921 3 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!!!!
@lindavincent678
@lindavincent678 11 ай бұрын
I have been manipulated without even knowing it. I’ve been through the full circle the love bombing, the silent treatment the devaluation humiliation put downs never comments or build up. It’s always negative insults. Why I’m here I don’t fucking know.
@MimiMkenya
@MimiMkenya 10 күн бұрын
FORGIVE then we're done. That's my motto. For me if you cheat we're finished. And that includes emotional cheating. The betrayal is one thing, the (physical) cheating an indication that you don't care about the sanctity of the r/ship and the risk of diseases ect. I couldn't forgive and proceed with that.
@MsGabiele
@MsGabiele Ай бұрын
We have no free will, we can only decide in the frame how our synapses are built due to our experience, learnings and traumas. We do not see our blind spot and can not choose the unknown or unawareness solution.
@ginnymobley8246
@ginnymobley8246 2 ай бұрын
Save yourself!😊
@jennifercoleman5159
@jennifercoleman5159 24 күн бұрын
The complex part is when one person‘s attachment style is incongruent with another person‘s attachment style and it’s a chicken or the egg thing as in, who started the negative cycle of reactivity first? And it really doesn’t matter who started it. I think trauma is something we bring up upon ourselves due to incompatible attachment styles. When we put ourselves in a path of intuitive destruction, when we don’t listen and heat the warning, red flags early on, and we hope we can still make something of it. That’s what got me into trouble every time when I forensically unpacked it. At least for me, I leave it up to myself to have to exit myself just like I would my child from a bad situation. And when I don’t exit myself from a bad situation, just like I would do for my child, then I am traumatizing myself. no good. Parent would allow their child to stay in a for example, emotionally invalidating situation, where repeatedly, the child is invalidated by another caregiver. A good parent will see that and remove the child from that kind of situation. It’s the same for us adults. When we see ourselves in a bad situation that we would never exposed to our own child, then we need to exit It’s knowing how to recognize someone else’s incongruent attachment style with our own, and then getting out! Getting out when the incompatibility is insurmountable and two people are triggering one another two old core wounds. Yes, I completely agree that we all have to work on ourselves to be better for one another in a Union together. Thank you so much for this video. It’s very helpful. Helping me be accountable for my end of things. And then still, working through the trauma and crying and experiencing the terror when it comes up.
@tinypea
@tinypea 2 ай бұрын
I have to reminded to stop the
@SterneSehen
@SterneSehen 2 ай бұрын
22:18 Agreed to every point up to what you said before this time stamp. I don’t think it is manipulation in most cases, but that the person, that promises to do ‚anything to get you back‘ feels that they want to be with you, so they make this promise out of fear of losing you. But that is exactly the problem in my opinion- they promise to do anything (which is in my mind, the promise to become the doormat, because ‚anything‘ means they don’t respect their own needs and boundaries in that moment, which is in my opinion the reason why change can’t work. They don’t promise that because they want to change that for their own good, but out of fear of losing you. But change can only work if you do it because you want to change. If you do it for someone else, you will always fall back into your old habbits. 23:02 Haha ok. Should have continued watching. You said the same. 😂 But still I disagree on the manipulation part. And to me that’s important, because I don’t want to see people as ‚ill intended‘, which it would be in my opinion if I‘d say their motivation is to manipulate. Still doesn’t make it ok to promise such a thing.
@lindavincent678
@lindavincent678 11 ай бұрын
He has paid to bills of mine one 501 couple hundred or 23 years now what is his motive there?
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