Hospital Falsely Accuses Mother of Girl with Mysterious Symptoms | Maya Kowalski Case Analysis

[@nursem65]

As someone who suffers with a chronically painful condition called Arachnoiditis, I can say that long term pain isnt taken seriously. **medications that can help treat the symptoms of pain are being denied. We are told the pain is all in our heads regardless of MRI etc, proof. We are also accused of drug seeking because we have been treated for long periods of time and know the medications and doses that work for us. Living in 24/7 pain is horrendous. I applaud the mother for advicating for her child.

[@therightshoe8040]

It’s horrible my friends mother 83 took Percocet exactly the way she was supposed to it was the only thing that helped with her pain and because of “opiate panic “ she was cut off not even tapered just cut off she didn’t understand addiction or withdrawal she just knew she was in agony - passed away within the year - an absolute disgrace they should treat people on a case by case basis

[@EricK-tb2dn]

​@@therightshoe8040I agree, my grandma had severe rumatoid arthritis and would take 90mg of hydrocodone, liquid morphine and Fentanyl patches. Luckily this was before the opioid epidemic.

[@EricK-tb2dn]

To the OP, I have a few tips since I had a struggle getting my anxiety meds prescribed. Change Doctors Rural Doctors are more likely to RX Don't mention the pain med you're looking for especially a particular dose. Take whatever med they give you, then return in around a week and say it doesn't work.

[@blowitoutyourcunt7675]

My Ehlers Danlos Syndrome agrees with you!

[@stt5v2002]

Medical providers do take it seriously. They just don’t give infinite doses of controlled substances to everyone who demands them. That’s because people constantly lie to medical providers for a variety of reasons, and doing so would cause massive harm. So talk to the lairs and manipulators. They are the problem.

[@robinmaynard1640]

In 1986 I took my 18 month toddler to the University of Michigan Hospital because his 'eyes looked funny.' I was obnoxious, rude and demanded my son be seen immediately. I am so very glad they reacted with care and compassion and did not view me as a crazy lady. Outwardly there was nothing wrong - but I insisted there was. Turned out he had a rare infection in the lining of his eyes that can turn into spinal meningitis. He was isolated and treated, while several children in our community died that weekend. Sometimes parents need to be the crazy lady .

[@tberry79]

Wow. I’m sorry to hear those other children passed away. That is scary.

[@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens]

I agree.

[@mjk-zw8bk]

Aa

[@soulTC]

Sadly, they were different times. The levels of authoritarianism and intolerance are now reaching a peak.

[@TheAtl198]

​@@soulTCYou mean people are no longer putting up with Karen-like behavior?

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

The hospital charging the insurance for CRPS treatments, while telling the parents she was faking it. That fact just leaves me discombobulated.

[@ckp2ator389]

I think the hospital professionals jumping on a biased observation that "her complaints were worse when her mother was in the room" totally suspect from a experience in my own life. I was called by school to pick him up when my 6 yr old child had an accident...fell down (or was pushed). He fell against the corner of a desk, narrowly missing the eye. As I walked up to the school entrance, my child burst into tears and ran to me upon seeing me. Teacher followed apologetically and said he hadn't acted that way before and she had tried to get ice, yada yada. My conclusion: children can hold it in until Mom or Dad are there who they know will take care of them.

[@husnaariffin6167]

Yup, that is what I think happened. Maya probably feel more comfortable complaining to/seeking comfort from mom. This is a very unfortunate situation all around.

[@a.r.glad.5490]

This effect is scientifically documented and proven. The hospital staff should have taken it into account.

[@libertyna933]

Exactly! I had a student who fell and broke his wrist off a slide. Never cried until he saw me. Principal was like well he didn't cry until he saw you. This was a seventh grader and some people are just a soft place to fall so to speak.

[@matthew.m.stevick]

💯

[@vickivictoria1626]

So true!

[@maryshell]

I was accused of the same with my own child. I’ve seen over 20 doctors and no one believed me that my child is sick. The mayo clinic gave us the mystery diagnosis, and I was accused of Munchausen by proxy by a local hospital. I had to hire a therapist to assess me, and I was lucky they did not get CPS involved in time. We were also lucky that, as this was happening, my child was finally diagnosed with an ultra rare genetic disorder. They dropped the accusation before anything serious happened. It was very scary. And yes, I probably looked rude to staff because I was medically gaslighted for months prior to that. My child is doing well right now, has to be on medication for life. The mother of the child in the story was from Poland. Most likely sounded rude because of the language barrier.

[@Catcapozzi]

I also bet you got reeeeeaaaaal tired of having to explain the same medical procedures and diagnoses to doctors who you were counting on to know more than you, too. I can completely understand why Beata at some point would start to railroad physicians. But unfortunately, doctors are the least likely to accept a layperson's judgment (even when it's been refined by the input of so many other doctors and healthcare workers).

[@hadassahtannenbaum8828]

@@Catcapozzi Instead of team work it's ego work. It needs to be team work. Always. And including the parents. @Maryshell I agree. Many Eastern Europeans are assertive as well as the language barrier They are used to being lied to. And many from the Boomer and genX generations remember Soviet Communism. They don't mean to be harsh. And Beata was a child during the Stasi era. This is just my opinion. (Many. of my friends are from Eastern Europe).

[@rebymunster]

Unfortunately this was my thought as well. Language barrier but also them being disrespectful about it demanding English. They treated the mother like she’s crazy instead of consoling her, to understand HER better. They also tried to convince the daughter that mom wasn’t a good mom. It sounds like to me that they just didn’t want to listen to anything she said and went off on a hunch that she wasn’t right or at least doing what she thought was right by her child. Medical staff should be knowledgeable of what could be causing a parents upset & be able to calm people down IMO. At least talk to them and do more background research into why the mom believed/knew ketamine provided relief and THEN they could’ve tried to convince her to try other things if med staff didn’t agree on ketamine. Or they should’ve been given the right to seek more answers elsewhere. The mother was “kicked off the island” without even being understood, or anyone trying to see her as her child’s ADVOCATE even if she was wrong. Very sad all around.

[@npc123x]

no offense but what you wrote in your comment does give me Munchasen by proxy vibes, it's understandable for doctors to be concerned when lots of red flags are there and they can't find anything wrong in the test results after 20 doctors.

[@maryshell]

@@npc123x Test results were off. But we were told that it’s a “glitch” or “nothing too serious” and come back in a year. My kids are already diagnosed with a number of medical issues and an ultra rare genetic disorder. Doctors were gaslighting us.

[@mumygirl1890]

The medical community encourages people to advocate for their children just don't advocate too much or they will make sure you don't see your kids for years.

[@MK-Hogan]

Yep. The God complex of medical professionals, and assumptions that parents are ignorant, needs to stop. We live in a time of accessible & plentiful information where intelligent people can educate themselves like never before. Doctors need to stop assuming they know everything and we know nothing. I can’t tell you how many doctors I’ve “educated” on RLS because it’s very rare for any to know much about it. I’ve encountered plenty of doctors who took offense at the notion that I may know more than they do about it. When someone suffers from a rare condition, of course they’re going to dedicate a lot more time and effort than the average doctor to research and learn about that condition. Patients need to be respected as intelligent resources and partners in their own care when it’s clear they’ve educated themselves.

[@cassy420blaze]

Well that's understandable if she has Munchausen syndrome by proxy. Duhhhh

[@cassy420blaze]

​​@@MK-Hoganhe medical professionals are trained to spot out things like Munchausen syndrome by proxy because like doctor grande said 7:15 they come up with false medical issues to get sympathy and the child has to suffer for it.. Speak for yourself for yourself the God complex!! 😂

[@finallyanonymity]

Correction if i may, they will make sure you hang yourself in the garage.

[@AwfulDog1]

Some of what you say is very true but do not forget that you cannot get medical training from the internet. Much of it will be incorrect and the correct stuff is often written in language you cannot understand or is simplistic. Not always, but often. Instead of being insulting towards doctors find one you feel is interested and motivated and whom you relate well to. Your health system and the medical training your doctors receive may be too specialised for holistic care. Honestly, we are not out to put you down or mismanage you.

[@commiecomrade2644]

I nearly died because of the same kind of thing. I was accused of drug seeking and left to bleed internally and go into shock. Hours of screaming in pain and crying for help only got me derision and nurses telling me that I was faking. I finally coded and they finally did a diagnostic test finding I was full of blood.

[@cornypinkuni9519]

Psychopathy and sadism seem to be the predominant filter to being medical staff.

[@gina3422]

Mercy commieconrade your commentary is tough to read. Not only does your story break my heart heart, but ruffles my feathers in a big way to learn of the medical staff's criticism of you, all the while having not diagnosed you correctly. 😐Praise God you live to tell of it, no doubt you're lucky to be alive dear. Certainly hope you experienced full recovery. Love and best wishes to you from North Carolina. ⚘💖

[@Had2Listen]

For someone seemingly intelligent you sir sound really dumb in your conclusions. Your presentation of the evidence is drastically lacking. It’s as if you came up with a conclusion and then worked your way backwards to prove it.

[@Cinder_311]

😢

[@GenXfrom75]

DSS/DCF love going after kids who don't need protection but seem to actively avoid taking kids who are in actual danger...😢😠🤬

[@tinawindham6958]

Harmony montgomery

[@piperjaycie]

And they act like we can’t see them actively doing this.

[@cje3247]

Truth. Retired Social Worker.

[@oh-duh]

I know you're exactly right.

[@NaNa-zb9xf]

So true… I was a young teacher when my student (a very smart, sweet and resilient Kindergartener), kept getting “forgotten” by her mom because she was either busy prostituting or scoring drugs according to her neighbors/my other students’ moms. I kept calling DCFS, who told me that wasn’t a reason for neglect, that they had already taken 5 of her children away for many other reasons, but leaving her after school for hours wasn’t one of them. They told me to convince one of the parents to adopt her, and her best friends mom was already ready to file the paperwork when the mother came after being two months absent from her life… why didn’t they do anything for this poor 6 year old? …but sure, let’s punish the mom who’s fighting for her daughter’s life and took her to the hospital to get treated…just nuts

[@ac-uk6hs]

I'm a pain management physician. This is such a disgusting story of government and institutions thinking they know better than somebody's parents. This is so repulsive I'm nauseous

[@SamSung-nf6tr]

In the beginning of the doc they mentioned the state turned child welfare over to private corporations. Once the institutions become profit-oriented corporations everything changes. The same thing happened when prisons became private. Suddenly all of these young kids were thrown in prison for things like stealing a candy bar. Everyone was getting a kickback. The mothers reaction, she was a nurse. I would act the same way. I would be very upset if no one listened to me. The fact that hundreds of other parents had the same experience proves it was all about greed not the child.

[@ac-uk6hs]

@@SamSung-nf6tr So I've worked at government-subsidized hospitals like the Veterans Affairs Hospital County Hospital's versus private hospitals. I'll be honest with you the ones that are unionized government hospitals of the worst care for the patients the least responsive staff and regretfully they cost a lot more because of horrible it efficiencies and incompetence. What's ridiculous is that those employees get paid more than the the Private Hospital ones but environment is so much better. Because you have people that want to work there and you can fire people who are lazy stupid or irresponsible who would otherwise bring the whole institution down. Although I love to help people and I would work in the county hospitals for free County clinics for free it got so intolerable because you couldn't get rid of the government employees that I wouldn't even volunteer anymore

[@SamSung-nf6tr]

@@ac-uk6hs Vet Hospitals have always been the worse in the country. When it comes to our brothers in arms, once they are used up, the politicians don't want to $$ support them. Your right and Both of our comments are based on our personal experiences.

[@NoManSly]

They fucking do know better.

[@thatvalensteingirl]

​@@NoManSlyYou think DeeDee Blanchard knew better?

[@piperjaycie]

I feel like the mother only asked for ketamine because she had seen it benefit her daughter before. She had been told by other doctors that ketamine was an appropriate treatment.

[@pamelapamper]

Sounds like maybe she was taking ketamine herself

[@clairewillow6475]

Actually many doctors advised against what Beata wanted. She was pushing for an induced coma with a ketamine pump that had a high likelihood of killing Maya

[@seltzertime2809]

I have a 9 month old and made the mistake of watching this the other night while I worked on her baby book. Needless to say I sobbed and was left with a sense of overwhelming dread. What a tragedy.

[@elliedaniels2245]

No worries. Is your 9 month old your first baby? It's common to worry a lot as a first time parent but it gets easier and things normally work out fine. It's all in God's hands anyway. Don't stress yourself and enjoy your little treasure.

[@lemonysnickette]

Anyone in your situation that has true love for their child will feel this way. I hope you never have to feel this pain.

[@larbur9342]

@@elliedaniels2245I don't think she's worried about her own parenting, she seems to be dreading the possibility that a hospital could do the same horrible thing to her and her child.

[@elliedaniels2245]

@@larbur9342 The point I made is the same regardless. If she is a first time parent that worries needlessly about terrible things happening no matter where it's coming from, I just wanted to ease her mind that there isn't a tragedy waiting to happen behind every bush. A lot of us waste time and stress out over worrying about things that never come to pass. The odds are on her side that her baby will grow up fine.

[@sarahissersohn5495]

It can be so hard, as a parent, to know what the right amount of worry is! As a mom who would’ve been absolutely walloped by post partum depression, if I hadn’t had an outstanding support system, including my midwife’s assistant, who encapsulated my placenta for me, I really encourage you, Mama, to start writing down your feelings each day, even just a sentence or two - if you look back after a few weeks, and you notice you’re having a lot of feelings of sadness/discouragement and/or worry, reach out for some support! Therapy works awesome for some, meds for some others, creating you-time for breaks and hobbies - there are no rules about what methods you can audition, to see what combo may work best for you and your family. Try to think of the brain as just another organ like the heart or the liver. If your brain needs some support, to work the way you need it to, great- get that support! No value judgements- you wouldn’t try to mind-over-matter your way through a heart condition! Try to treat your brain the same way 💜⚡️

[@eadaoinl]

You mean to tell me a mother was intensely invested in the wellbeing of her child? Argued to get her pain relief? Advocated for the legitmateness of the condition they had sacrificed so much to treat? Her daughter appeared more upset while seeing her mother distressed? Oh wow, arrest that woman immediately! What a crime!

[@ninamartinez5171]

Obviously they never seen Is Sally Field, in the movie steel Magnolias screaming to give her daughter her pain medication.

[@mervyngreene6687]

​@@ninamartinez5171Actually, I was thinking of Shirley MacClaine in "Terms of Endearment."

[@ninamartinez5171]

@@mervyngreene6687 Idk

[@yuordreams]

I know, this doctor is totally out of touch if he thinks people in distress should allow the medical system to steamroll them and tell them nothing is wrong when it clearly is, and just not argue.

[@ninamartinez5171]

@@yuordreams I listen to one of the doctors who claims he treats hundreds of CRPS patients i have CRPS for decades an when he was talking about CRPS patients living in Florida wearing shorts 365 days a year my jaw hit the ground listening to that is absolutely the biggest false statement he knows little to nothing about this horrible horrific Debilitating disease 😢 im absolutely Terrified 😨 because i live in Florida and unfortunately there's hundreds of doctors who know little to nothing about CRPS he was an expert witness for JHH 1st i learned years ago that the earlier you catch CRPS the better your chances are to treat it with nerve blocks an through it into remission it can be long lasting remission or very short remission everyone is different 2nd it's actually in the spine and operating is more dangerous because they don't know enough about the spine and brain to be able to successfully operate nevermind it will kill you. 3rd Physical therapy, Occupational therapy Occupational therapy, is a must have that you must be able to continue or you can and will loose mobility regardless of pain it's absolutely a must to keep mobile if you don't use it you will definitely loose it pain medication along with very intensive mobility is life long. The fact that it's not always visible in the sites makes being believed very difficult i was blessed by a great neurosurgeon who who had been desperately trying to get research back in the 90's because it was becoming very popular in adults children ect and they learned that nerve blocks were not only a way to rule out CRPS also to rule it there unfortunately he died in a bad accident and i haven't seen or heard anything more about research that's as equal as cancer in pain 😢 there's a lot that factors into CRPS that once again doctors have no idea of CRPS 35 years later they still don't get the level of pain and suffering the causes of CRPS can be anything from being born with it to being caused by accidents operations Traumas ect. We definitely need more research is beyond words needed.

[@willj1598]

This makes me incredibly angry. Over 30 years ago we had a very premature baby. She has many issues and wouldn't gain weight. The pediatrician reported us for neglect and we spent years fighting it, on top of caring for an ill child. Doctors will do anything to deflect responsibility. Doctors hate anyone that challenges them and will exert their power on anyone who dares to cross them. This was a mother desperate to help her daughter and very vulnerable. If you don't want to deal with people at the worst point in their life you don't belong in healthcare. They destroyed this family with no accountability. The settlement comes from the insurance company, which is funded by the billions we pay on healthcare.

[@h0rriphic]

I am So sorry you and your family were abused like that. Its so cruel.

[@natashaibanez6134]

Thank you for sharing your story. So sorry.

[@shannonoliver829]

That’s a really unfortunate situation. I had a preterm baby 27 weeks, 10 years ago. She was always below the WHO height and weight charts which is even lower than the one used in the US. She was 1 pond, 12 Oz at birth, and was always slow to gain due to an intestinal perforation and NEC. She had 4 abdominal surgeries while in the hospital. We spent 4 months in the NICU. It was difficult leaving the hospital without her, difficult visiting and watching everyone else leave with their babies, and going home empty handed day in and day out but, I always knew that the medical staff had her best interests at heart. Unfortunately, there are many parents who become addicted to the sense of attention that they receive from having a sick baby. They’re constantly commended for how “strong” and “brave” they, and they keep bringing their kids in, and when they are turned away, they learn that they have to take matters into their own hands, and show the drs something/some reason to treat their children. They need to be seen as “brave”, “strong”, underdogs. Medical experts have to protect these kids. I have had to struggle with my daughter receiving the care that she needs while tactfully navigating the medical industry because so many parents clog the system with undue medical “emergencies” or actual harm to their child.

[@childofcascadia]

Parents harming kids for attention is very, very rare. It happens but its not common at all. Dont make it sound like it is.

[@willj1598]

@@childofcascadia I agree, I am saying the opposite. We were accused of neglecting our child because the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with her and she physically couldn't eat. This poor woman was tormented when all she was trying to do was help her daughter. I had a daughter who was sick for eight years then she passed. It was eight years of terror waiting for the day. I can't imagine her fear, having a healthy child and watching her become so sick, not knowing if she has another day. Nobody should judge her for how she handled it. Her emotions are no excuse for how they treated her.

[@nikanikasavina]

I also had social services called on me for asking the doctors to refer my child to a specialist, but they did not believe she needs a specialist, but instead tried to prove that I hurt my child. She was born with rare skin condition that looked like a bruise, and when I tried to explain that she was born like that, they were like “nah, you must’ve hit her”. So I told them to get out as they are being utterly useless, they really tried to portray me as a bad mother, bastards, instead of helping me to find a dermatologist who specialised in that skin condition. Eventually we found him and now my child’s skin is totally normal ❤ Bless you Dr Clayton.

[@Marta-to1mf]

And blass you fir bring a Bear mama 🥰💪🏻👍🏻😍

[@fairyprincess911]

Some Drs can be bass turds 💩

[@cornypinkuni9519]

​@@fairyprincess911Many. Nurses too.

[@wsrtwetr]

they probably didnt say it like that and you telling them to get out, yeah security would be call on you. it is their job to call cps if they have a suspicion of child abuse. If they don't call, they lose their jobs. Its up to CPS to determine whether you're a child abuser. Its not a doctors job to deal with child abusers/would be child abusers. They don't know you from the next karen who act like the world owes them. You're not that important and you're just another crazy parent screaming on a shift. I am sure your doctor is still doing well treating patients while you scream his name on a youtube comment like a crazy person.

[@TheresaHall-vl1bm]

Yeah I never understood if the parents have a diagnosis then why not disprove it and then punish them. It probably wouldn't take long to disprove whether or not the parents are right but no for some reason they always take forever to do that. Shouldn't that be one of the first things you do if you think the parents are lying.

[@essilevi07ify]

I am a Doctor...this is a very difficult case..my advise .always listen to the patient and in this case the parents..they know more..this is tragic

[@AwfulDog1]

I don’t think the parents knew more. There was just poor communication all around.

[@jenniferbyrne4567]

It’s nice to see a doctor that listens!! ❤

[@darrylg3861]

Thankyou. First thing I was taught in med school was "always listen to the patient"

[@llhannah9297]

@@AwfulDog1 The parents did know more in this case. The hospital couldn't even diagnose the girl even though she had already been diagnosed and treated by another doctor. The hospital was ignoring all of that. It was atrocious.

[@darkwing3713]

@@darrylg3861 I guess almost all the doctors I've been to skipped the first day of medical school 🙃

[@jennajewert]

Heartbreaking case. Sounds like the concerned parents did everything they could to help their poor baby. I can see why hospital staff were initially alarmed at mom's behavior but did they take into account how stressful such situations can be for parents?! Mom's intuition about her daughter's suffering was spot on but the system was so eager to vilify, it led to mom's suicide. Absolutely tragic.

[@Blissfulnessence]

Agree

[@buschovski1]

Dont agree about the suicide. Nobody in their right mind would kill themselves over this. Its bad, but not so bad as to die over it. You know what i mean? She had to have had a serious mental illness to do that. Why not stick around instead of deny your family a mother

[@tberry79]

@@wmdkittyYeah, I don’t think we can blame the hospital for that part. She made that decision.

[@tfoxen7518]

​@@buschovski1Have you had false accusations similar to this and had your child taken?

[@JoannaVancouver]

Can you point me to the minute in the Netflix film where there is a recording of the mother acting loud, obnoxious and aggressive? Because I don't recall hearing her acting in any extreme way. I don't want to have to re-watch this heartbreaking film again, but would like to hear evidence of this alarming behaviour from Beata, not just descriptions about it written in reports.

[@fabioderossi1097]

It seems pretty common for people with a language barrier to come across more aggressive than they intend to, not knowing all the subtle nuances of the language being spoken. It's hard for people who have never been in this situation to understand that.

[@mindymartinez4657]

This is true, I didn't even think of that

[@adish7275]

Her husband and the lawyer said she was a very pushy person. The staff said she told them what to do , as if she is a doctor...

[@wldncrzy1971]

Beata was a nurse. There was no language barrier.

[@wsrtwetr]

yup and i suspect having to explain yourself over and over again to doctors and not being taken seriously might have cause her to amp up her behaviour in hopes of getting someone to listen to her. which was ... unfortunately a bad idea in this situation - thanks to Dr Sally.

[@loriburdette4629]

I believe Beata’s suicide letter makes it clear that after she had done everything they wanted her to do, proven she did not have fictitious disorder by proxy (with which the smith doctor had to agree) and then was denied to even see and hug her daughter, she believed her daughter would never be freed from that hospital until she (Beata) was out of the picture. She had even offered to move out of the family home or return to Poland and the smith doctor and judge would not budge. What else was she to think? She sacrificed her life for her daughter’s. Ask yourself, what was her unpardonable sin? I think most of us know.

[@buschovski1]

Sacrificed her life? No. Anyone would know not to off themselves before they knew what the outcome would be. And that just isnt clear here. Anyone in their right mind would stick around for their child. She had issues beyond the events.

[@loriburdette4629]

@@buschovski1 What reason did the judge have to deny a hug? At that time, he had no evidence of Beata harming her child and they had not seen each other for 3 months. Smith had changed her opinion that Beata was causing this. Not even a quick hug? Her child was suffering right then and needed treatment. How long would she have to suffer if even a hug was verboten at this time? In her mind, she had to act and this was the only thing she could do. Look at the facts! Maya was released within days. Unfortunately, it seems Beata was right in her assumptions.

[@BaDazai]

​@@buschovski1but it worked didn't it? 5 days after her death they took her daughter back home. They most certainly wanted her dead, she sacrificed herself and her daughter finally was taken home.

[@buschovski1]

@@BaDazai Yeah it did. A real nutty ass thing to do but yeah.

[@buschovski1]

@@loriburdette4629 ok. Do you really think thats what she was thinking? You could be right. But I think shed been comtemplating suicide for a while before this incident. I think she simply just gave up.

[@alideees]

This story was one of the most absolutely heartbreaking examples of how CPS can destroy families solely based on their word against the family’s.

[@robinbond7878]

Unfortunately, CPS is almost always on the wrong side of what is in the best interest of CHILDREN and FAMILIES. They often remove children from homes when they shouldn’t be, and leave children in dangerous situations when they should be removed. Often times, the CPS workers are very young, inexperienced workers that have spent very little time around children or families. I taught preschool for fourteen years and in all of that time, very few cases that I would have even considered to be abuse. Yet, in working with a young teacher that was going to school to be a social worker, she seemed to always be looking for possible child abuse on every child that she came in contact with. Noting bruises, making comments etc. she would ask me if I was concerned about a bruise that I saw on a child? My first question. Where is the bruise located? Is it in a place where children readily get bruises? If not, does this child have siblings? I know children pretty well, and I know that they aren’t above hitting and yes, kicking each other in the back and on the backs of their legs. Does the child have any kind of medical condition that can cause them to bruise easily? I told her, before you go off accusing a parent of abusing their child, you better be very sure of exactly what you are talking about, because you CANNOT UNRING a bell. You just may find yourself in a place where you don’t want to be! You have to be able to look at the whole picture and have the capacity to take everything into account. Removing a child from a home is also a form of abuse.

[@lauriediorio574]

And the low-life judge "impartially" listening to the case. 😈😈😈😈

[@tommymc7535]

@@robinbond7878They are often in damned if you do, damned if you don’t situations…. I wouldn’t want that hellish job.

[@TKJ123]

It wasn’t based on their words. It was based on the red flags shown by Beata and Maya. The way they were acting, the medication and treatment they were requesting was off the charts. It was wild. This is what rose the red flags. Beata not following what was instructed and still trying to get her way is what happened. How do you explain Maya being ok wo the K infusions and all the other meds she was giving Maya before JHACH? The asthma? When she didn’t have asthma? You had one of her testing physicians heck all of them even before JHACH that felt the same way. They saved MAYA from herself and Beata. I think at this point people feel bad for MAYA she knows how to pull at the heart strings. Look at how she was during trail??? Super pale no makeup etc…. They show up to this latest trial dressed so unprofessional and full face of makeup. I guess she was having a good day that day lol. MAYA has to stick to her story or Beata would have died in vain. She has to follow through with her lie. Very manipulative in my opinion,

[@leslievasquez2645]

I’ve had something similar happen to my family! My daughter suffered greatly from something undiagnosed but it was definitely the same symptoms. Drs kept giving her more and more opiates ( she was 16) so that’s what we knew. I had to take her to the ER for a really bad episode of pain and they refused to give her pain meds. I was confused and when I explained that it was typical to give my daughter narcotics, the nurse called CPS on me. Thankfully, the social worker understood what I was saying. I’m lucky! I feel for this mother, sounds like she wanted her daughter to be out of pain desperately

[@dreadpiratelenny1348]

I have a close friend with two young children. Whenever the kids injure themselves, the parents do their best to treat it at home, even if they really need a doctor. They do this because the local hospital is notorious for calling Child Protective Services and taking people's kids. My friend and I have heard numerous heartbreaking stories similar to this one just in our small town.

[@sarahjaye4117]

Wow:(

[@genericamerican7574]

Someone needs to get these families in the same room with some lawyers and then some press. Best way to get a company to pay attention to ethics complaints and keep it from happening to more people. I doubt it’s just family they are abusing. Anyone can be a bigot and/or corrupt. Even healthcare and social workers. I watched a court video with a paramedic who had a white supremacy podcast. He was rebuked for what he said about treatment of black peoples especially children. Then he said the judge didn’t believe in freedom of speech, said he was taking it to serious because it was just a joke bro, and promoted his podcast.

[@Tamara-id1pe]

@@AnaLucia-wy2iithose “child abuse experts” seem so biased

[@patbowman6723]

Her mother went thru hell during Maya's illness. The judge would not grant the mom and daughter a smple hug. How cruel wah that. Cruel to the point mom committed suiside. Such a tragedy all the way around. RIP Mrs. Kolwaski. A heartfelt I am sorry for the rest of the family.

[@sabrinashelton1997]

It's actually par for the course when it comes to CPS, and when parents are denied visitation. They ARE cruel. It's disgusting.

[@momof1576]

I’m surprised more parents don’t suicide because of child apprehensions

[@sabrinashelton1997]

@@momof1576 You go thru every emotion, and consider every possible way out, believe me.

[@adish7275]

Its beyond cruel for the mother to leave Maya and commit suicide knowing how much pain it will cause her ( and her brother who was like a side note) for the long run. I think it's more disturbing then a temporary event of denying a hug.

[@patbowman6723]

@@adish7275 I agree

[@MAGarbag.e]

I believe the hospital is 100% responsible!

[@tammylaronde8593]

So do I.

[@Whitericeinmysalad]

I do also.

[@bigempty]

Let's hope the courts feel the same way and the family is compensated appropriately.

[@jillturner9263]

100% and they billed for all the money! Shameful

[@NoManSly]

I don’t.

[@MJFish]

I hear what you’re saying. But when you have a child with a chronic illness, you will have all of the symptoms of factious disorder imposed on another. You will know what treatments work for your child. You will know when they are really in pain. And it gets exhausting and heartbreaking to deal with it all the time, especially when you face caregivers that may not empathize with the true situation.

[@MelR7900]

100%

[@WoodlandT]

This whole case is infuriating and heartbreaking. But the fact that the hospital that denied the diagnosis of CRS and made accusations related to the diagnosis & treatment had then billed insurance for that very diagnosis made me beyond angry and suggested to me that this isn’t simply an issue with incompetence but rather corruption. It’s very very scary that such things can happen

[@ckp2ator389]

It is disappointing to say the least that the bottom line guides so much of what they do. My spouse was mistreated for a dog bite (a technician sewed it up) at the ER which resulted in blood poisoning and a return overnight visit which ran up $$$s. Insurance company came to us for the outsized bill wanting to pin it on whoever the dog owner was.

[@NurseSue425]

I just don’t understand why a doctor at the hospital didn’t call dr Hanna or Dr Kirkpatrick and get his take on the diagnosis he treated her for

[@wsrtwetr]

its a failure of the system and policies. It is not uncommon for departments such as billing and admin not to talk to each other. However for a patient who was involve with the courts, CPS, and was remanded by the court, a manager/senior person should have been involve to make sure everything make sense. It is also possible they are outright commiting fraud. However most hospitals are not that bold and not that hard up for cash to pull a stunt like that. It is more likely departments did not communicate with each other and the same code was use to bill the insurance without anyone realizing it. happens more often than you think.

[@bgtechno93]

@@NurseSue425 Right, like they tried to blame the mom and would not call Dr Hanna or Dr. Kirkpatrick. Plus didnt Dr Kirkpatrick tried to commonicate with the hospital that things could get worst. But the hospital did not listen

[@NurseSue425]

@@bgtechno93 it is totally bonkers why they would think what they think without getting her pain md take. Pain md is not a normal md for a child. Not like they have a children’s hosp pain md. It’s a specialty and thank goodness dr Hanna will treat kids. He is my doc for chronic pain. He is a good caring dr. I’m lucky to live within 4 miles from him. I’ve met people who moved to Clearwater so they could be treated by him

[@notsobasicbecki658]

My son was having abdominal pain, joint pain to the point that he cried, headaches, a low grade fever, and some other symptoms. I took him to 2 different clinics because it lasted for a few days and he started football camp the next week. He was really upset he couldn't attend. Each doctor acted like I was overreacting for bringing him in. One said he probably had to poop and that he was having growing pains. They didn't even take bloodwork and barely touched him to check him out. After a few more days the joint pain got worse and his stomach pain did too, but the fever was gone. I called his doctor to set up a regular appointment, but they couldn't see him for a while and it was a wait. Finally, the day before football camp he was feeling better. He wanted to go so I was gonna let him the next evening. While speaking to my friend who was an RN, I mentioned some symptoms. She said it sounded like Mono and told me I should have him tested before he go to camp to be sure. So, the next morning, I took him to another clinic and explained the situation. I asked if they could test him for mono. They said they didn’t think it was necessary and "I am the doctor" when I said my RN friend suggested it. I politely said " well I have anxiety so it would make me feel better if you did. Insurnace will pay it. Hahaha" ( trying to be nice so she would do it) she finally agreed. We had him skip football camp at the suggestion of my friend. Tests came back, he had mono within the last few weeks (thats how the test states it...either current or it will state they HAD it recently). They asked to do more tests and scans showed his spleen was enlarged from the mono. If he had gone to football camp and got hit, it would have ruptured and he would have died. Some medical professionals need to get off their high horse and listen sometimes. I'll never forget how rude they were to me while he cried from the pain. "Needs to poop"? Seriously? This whole case is sad but it isn't surprising.

[@stacyzimmerman9046]

My husband was told at first ER visit he had a “squint headache” from not wearing sunglasses while boating. I am a nurse he was very very ill. Came back to ER--next shift ER DR … SPINAL MENINGITIS! Hospitalized.

[@notsobasicbecki658]

@stacyzimmerman9046 I'm so glad they found that! That could gave gotten bad very quickly but I'm sure you already know that. And what the heck is a "squint headache"? Some doctors...I swear

[@angelahounschell]

I strongly suggest everyone (who can) watch the documentary. Dr. G always does a great job summarizing stories but this one should be watched in full. I wasn't aware of Maya's story before watching it. My heart breaks for Maya, Beata, and the rest of the family. It's appalling that this happens so frequently (especially in their particular area) and is obvious that Dr Sally Smith (the doctor who's name is all over each case) enjoys the power she has over these families. Even after everything was said and done and Beata had given up, Dr Smith couldn't admit that she had made any mistakes. I am not someone who prays however I pray this family wins their case when they FINALLY see their day in court.

[@jessicah3782]

Sounds like Sally needs to be fired and have whatever licenses she has in the medical field to be revoked.

[@gretarobinson1142]

Very well said

[@ceilconstante640]

Narscissist gravitate to careers where they have control. Medicine, legal, clergy & education but mostly medical.

[@ceilconstante640]

@@jessicah3782 won't happen. Doctors get away with bad behavior and mistreatment. It takes a lot to be able to sue.

[@Whitericeinmysalad]

I am also praying they win the lawsuit. They’re going to win Maya’s mother did not die in vain.

[@ralphcantrell3214]

My kid fell off a motorcycle during a family vacation when he was 12 years old, and the good folks at the local hospital treated us like we were abusive parents, and kept pressing him to tell them what “really” happened. It was insulting as heck. These doctors and nurses should not have the power to ruin a parent’s life. What if they simply do not like you for some reason?

[@joannawrzelikowska3273]

My mother is also Polish and I can see so many similarities to Maya's mum. These women are like lionesses when it comes to their children. I feel so sad about this tragic story : (

[@shimmer8289]

Another aspect is the mom Beata came from the Soviet Era Poland to USA. She probably mistakenly was not as aware of the way people judge a woman who insists on interfering with nurse stafff instead of sitting down. She may not have ever imagined that the hospital would call DCF and sadly it appears not enough outreach was made to her to explain the procedure and give her some light at the end of the tunnel.

[@joannawrzelikowska3273]

@@shimmer8289 a 100% true

[@pikusiekuk]

That's exactly what I thought first when hearing about this case!

[@lisavalentine8877]

Agree. My mother was born here, but her family came from Poland, and from what I've seen, Polish women are fierce in protecting their children. I have a touch of that myself, because I know the doctors got upset with me when I was advocating for my mom in the hospital. My sister & I forced a sit down meeting with all the doctors & nurses, and finally got them to acknowledge our concerns.

[@joasok3642]

Because in Poland you can have discussion with staff and doctors and they respect your medical and nursing degrees.

[@DroneStrike1776]

This isn't the first time for Sally Smith. "As American Idol alumna Syesha Mercado fights to regain custody of her son, a petition has started to get Florida physician Dr. Sally Smith fired for her role in “wrongfully” accusing dozens of parents of abuse." - Tampa Bay Times

[@nhmooytis7058]

Sounds like she needs to lose her medical license.

[@jenniferbyrne4567]

She’s abusing her power! She really should be held accountable.

[@jillturner9263]

Yup call her out! She should go to jail

[@joasok3642]

Crazy Sally should be in jail.Why is she still free???

[@kayem9909]

Staff were intimidated by the mother, and instead of working with her, they destroyed her. It's such a tragic story. A mother lost her baby and her life because she was a strong relentless advocate.

[@buschovski1]

She lost her baby? Im looking through the video but I cant find that part. Her baby is still alive and noone ever said she couldnt ever see her daughter again. Apparently the mother thought that was the case. Now the child doesnt even have a mother(and the son as well)

[@reneegadmar6683]

I wonder if they would have reacted the same way if it was the father who had been pushy...

[@buschovski1]

@@reneegadmar6683 interesting thought

[@tammylaronde8593]

@@buschovski1She wasn’t allowed to see her child. That is a form of loss.

[@adish7275]

Yea OK.

[@megleland6320]

Charging $10,000 on Ketamine Infusions?!? That seems like a real scam taking advantage of desperate parents. Plus it made them look like sketchy people to DCFS, what an absolute mess. Not even letting her hug her kid, that is cold.

[@nhmooytis7058]

All Big Pharma does IS scam people.

[@mattgrelee2199]

U can buy a gram of the street for 150$

[@AwfulDog1]

The most sensible post I have seen so far.

[@aisoconcranberriesu2as]

There was no good reason not to let her hug her kid

[@cuda861]

That's exactly what I thought. Parents were taken advantage of, I'm sure she wanted her kid to get better and that made her mentally unstable. She would do anything for her daughter, but the hospital saw the treatments as bizzare and concerning. Obviously the hospital handled it in the worst way possible. There would had been better courses to take. I mean inducing a coma and using ketamine sounds rediculous, but I believe she would do anything to make her better....

[@littleeva]

I disagree with you Dr. Grande. When I was in graduate school, I was taught to see people from where THEY were, not from where I AM. In other words, the hospital staff measured the mother's reactions against how THEY would react. That is a mistake IMO. BTW, the hardest thing for doctors to say is, "I was wrong."

[@colbysvids]

Yes, I have run into the same thing. Most Dr's have huge egoes and never admit their wrong or that they don't know something. If the Dr doesn't know the true diagnosis they often blame the patient. I have learned all of this from my personal experience with apx 30 yrs of undiagnosed Lyme disease where twice I was told by infectious disease dr's to see a psychologist even when I had 2 positive Lyme test. Many people with Lyme disease have similar stories as mine.

[@augustek5382]

From where they are,.. hm, are you from Poland as well and culturally can relate to them? Did you grow up in Poland? The hospital personnel contributed to her suicide. Cleary they could not relate to her way of behaving. I could guarantee you that if she went to Poland with her daughter doctor's there would not see anything wrong with the mother and the whole situation. She should have gone to Poland.

[@johnc7385]

​@@augustek5382this is what I was thinking. I don't think people realize how different other cultures are. Polish people are hard but this can come across as extremely rude or aggressive in Western culture.

[@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens]

Word.

[@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens]

@@augustek5382 This person is agreeing with you. I don't know why you're reacting this way. Seeing someone from where THEY are means from THEIR PERSPECTIVE. As in, this was a mother with a sick child who had been trying to advocate for her child for YEARS and just wanted some help. Not a belligerent abuser who is demanding and dangerous. I really don't understand the tone of your comment towards someone who is agreeing with you.

[@torilachapelle1992]

As a special needs nurse, I’m disappointed and disgusted by your conclusion. It is not the mother’s responsibility to be “nicer” so that clinical staff likes her. It is her job to advocate and it is OUR jobs as professionals to do what is best for the child WITHOUT EGO. The professionals here did not do that. I have seen this happen many times to many parents of complex needs kids and it makes me sick as a PROFESSIONAL.

[@hikariz6830]

THANK YOU! His comment was gross

[@AnnaBelll.e]

Thank you

[@deebell8727]

She unalived herself. Why would she do that? I watched the Netflix show and at first sided with her but then found some of her actions to be a little odd

[@gymnasticlife1788]

​@@deebell8727my thoughts are she would unalive herself if she believed she was what was stopping her daughter from being released to her dad and coming home. 💔 from the Netflix show it said beata was in communist Poland until the age of 16. Do we know what life was like for her then..? Did she experience any trauma that may have caused her to be what could have been perceived as overreacting..? I have had my fair share of disagreement with doctors especially in regards to managing chronic pain. And if it were my child going thru it I would be even more adamant to be heard. Just my perspective but watching trial unfold.

[@ahome9553]

Agreed. I’m also RN and have had my own chronic ill children until they were 4yo. Same thing multi doctors, until find someone who listens, always more clingy to mom (usually the primary care-giver/nurturer), etc. this mom felt responsible for her daughters situation and anyone with chronic I’ll children will understand her situation. Much less trying to get help for a child when no one knows what to do. Beyond frustrating and anxiety riddled situation. Hoping the family can recover as best they can.

[@Hanka1981]

So many incompetent doctors that give up.. it’s easier for them to diagnose as psychosomatic. This disgusts me at every level.

[@somethinginthenothing]

Yeah as someone who had CRPS as a child how you going to say it's psychosomatic? My leg was cold and my toes blue. I don't think that's a conversion disorder (which there is no shame in that either)

[@AwfulDog1]

The irony here illustrates neither of you understand CRPS as it is in the older terminology both psychosomatic and then later referred to as conversion syndrome!!! And blue lower limbs can definitely be part of it. I am afraid neither of you know much about your condition. Try asking your doctors and listen to what they say back.

[@stefanforrer2573]

@@AwfulDog1 dude, if you knew anything, you'd know that crps is a blanket term for a multitude of different symptoms with an equal multitude of different causes.... please don't talk about stuff you clearly have no clue of

[@AwfulDog1]

It is my area of speciality.

[@Hanka1981]

@@AwfulDog1 are you an health professional? Probably not… Have you ever suffered from a medical condition… Probably not.. Have some compassion.. It goes a long way.

[@jasonmims5057]

I feel that Xenophobia was another factor in this incident. The medical staff was not happy with her aggressively telling them what to do but for a person with a foreign accent to be aggressive and ornery, that was completely unacceptable.

[@magilem8075]

Xenon is a noble gas 👑

[@MK-Hogan]

I don’t see any evidence of that and there were plenty more cases cited from families without any foreign accents. They didn’t like her pushy personality and that she advocated so hard for her kid with her own knowledge instead of blindly trusting the doctors there.

[@catherinenoblet5819]

I think her accent played a part. Some accents make words sound harsher. They also probably didn't like her videoing everything.

[@raquellofstedt9713]

I work with people across different ethnic backgrounds, and Beatas behavior is very familiar to me, especially when comining from mothers from the Balkans or Eastern Europe. I think there, you HAVE to be more aggressive, but yes, as a provider, it can be challenging to work with, but you have to be understanding and actually talk to the parent. Now I realize, after MUCH experience, that it is often a result of stress and pressure and I am less likely to simply jump in and blame.

[@natashaibanez6134]

Some accents such as Polish, German, Russian, when trying be precise, clear, make the speaker sound abrupt, authoritative. Plus the frustration of not being able to express freely comes through. The the panic sets in. I know all about it. Personnel should at least get trained better, the way teachers (not all) get trained to work with people from different backgrounds.

[@valiakloeppel7252]

How the heck do hospitals hold you with threat of police? Govt. has too much reach. The Mom wasnt even allowed to hug her daughter.

[@carnifaxx]

In our country, the law from 2012 guarantees that a child can have (and basically needs to have) a legal guardian or a person assigned by the legal guardian (e.g. a mother temporary substituted by a grandmother or a family friend) present during hospitalization. Nevertheless, there are some hospitals that are strongly against this law - and one of them had even some kind of agreement with a town police (so not even a state police) to help to discourage or more like to frighten parents so that they would dismiss their request to be present with the child. It was repeatedly criticized and individually managed by various politicians, but the issue is still going on, even though the police apologized they were unaware they are helping with breaking the law (wtf), they did it at least once more after the first media covered incident (there were multiple cases before, but these people just gave up and when they saw that published, they came with their testimony as well). There is also one huge hospital that made an expensive reconstruction of their building focused on children and they deliberately didn't leave enough space for parents to stay with the children. And the director of the hospital is a huge advocate of children being left alone in hospital, he even said they have teams of professional psychologists, in case a child had a problem with that - and he meant it almost as a joke.

[@angeladansie4378]

Because for every case where they "overreach," there are dozens of REAL abuse cases that they intervene in. While some people feel that interference is a violation of the parents' "rights," most of us feel that the children have rights to advocacy & are NOT the property of the parents.

[@carnifaxx]

@@angeladansie4378 but there still has to be respected that people are innocent until PROVEN guilty. Like when there is a suspicion that parent may do something to the child, but they both want to see each other, why couldn't they have at least a supervised visits? Why do they need to be separated for that long? This is even more ridiculous considering the fact that children are often forced by authorities to spend time with their parent who is known to be bad to them (e.g. visits with an abusive parent after the separation of the couple).

[@valiakloeppel7252]

@@angeladansie4378 Parents are directly responsable for their children. They will be the ones jailed for neglect. Why dont you solve the problem from the beginning- mental health issues. Additionally your statement about property doesn't relate at all. Perhaps, your personal idealogy.

[@valiakloeppel7252]

@@angeladansie4378 Where is your most of us proof?

[@hatboxghost735]

Fair? It should be illegal for the hospital to call DCF because they were annoyed by the mother. That’s tit for tat, and doesn’t sit right with me. I feel terrible for that family. Thank you for covering. My grandparents came from Ukraine. When I broke my ankle when my grandmother was watching me, they treated her terribly because I was screaming in pain, and she spoke very poor English. I had jumped out of my tree house onto an oak tree root. They would not let her see me, and even had her escorted off the premises until my mom arrived. I was 7 but it is seared in my memory.

[@littleeva]

The hospital staff could not see where your grandmother was coming from, or recognize cultural differences. That's a HUGE problem.

[@hatboxghost735]

@@littleeva it is. To this day I sometimes tear up thinking about how she must have felt that day. She was a very strong woman, survived the world wars and Soviet Russia to be treated like that. I remember begging for her, and she was trying to break through to me. This was back in the 90’s. I understand the need for protection, but obviously she brought me in, and I explained what had happened. But I recall medical staff calling her rude to my mom, and she was not rude, she was scared and could not express herself properly.

[@natashaibanez6134]

Healthcare personnel receive no training in dealing with people from other countries. This is a major part of the problem. Teachers in some countries receive such training and it makes a huge difference. I am half Ukrainian, and I can imagine what happened. Very sorry. I deal with Polish people a lot and their way of speaking is about being precise and accurate. I suspect they mistook Beata's precision for rudeness. Very sad.

[@hatboxghost735]

@@natashaibanez6134 precisely. My family friends daughter was in a terrible car wreck at age 16. Both parents were from Poland, and before she went unconscious she complained about her head. The mother was adamant about brain swelling, the hospital said it was shock, as she had no visible injury. She passed, again early 90’s. My hope is that technology will aid in the translation, and medical staff should be adequately trained to deal with foreigners as that was the regular in New Jersey and New York for decades. Slavic people are very to the point, and don’t waste words due to the language barrier. But we are also a very sensitive people. When we would visit my Aunt Julia in New Jersey, they employed Polish Hospice workers. That was such a blessing. It seems that medical staff of the past century were trained well, or maybe from their own experience with so many foreigners. Again, just seems we wouldn’t be going backwards with technology to help with translation and medical records being widely available to all clinicians. My brother in law is Mexican, and his parents run into issues as well.

[@ValleyOakPaper]

Yes, I think that Beata's English skills played a role her. Not being understood is very frustrating and often leads to people getting louder and angrier. It's not rational but anybody who's been in a high stakes situation where people in authority don't listen, can understand the behavior and diffuse it.

[@susanohnhaus611]

When my oldest boy was seven he developed a bladder infection. The clinic insisted that they interview him without me present and with a social worker because it might indicate sexual abuse. It was absolutely frightening to be in a situation where such a thing was being considered. It absolutely affected my attitude about when to seek out professional medical care however. I am sure that there are many parents with these scary experiences and it can only endanger children, not help them.

[@lenalena1683]

you shocked me, it's just horrible.

[@darrylg3861]

I am a retired health care practitioner. I believe you and agree with you

[@liznel1]

As someone separated from her child that was 9 yo in 2017 through false accusations that had absolutely no support, I can tell you IT BREAKS YOU, more than any other loss. The system refuses to hear or simply read the facts/proof. The pain, dreams, desperation and distrust of systems DO NOT STOP. 💔

[@sophiaisabelle01]

This case was heartbreaking for the most part. Thanks, Dr Grande, for shedding light on this case.

[@maxmat2874]

Dr Grande seemed heart broken also

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

​@@maxmat2874I picked up on that as well. I'm actually glad he pointed out the reasons that made hospital staff suspect munchausen by proxy. Given Beata's behavior, I don't think they were wrong to accuse her. Once she was cleared, however, the way she and Maya were treated is deplorable and unacceptable. This is incredibly tragic. Mom hanging herself puzzles me, as it is wholly inconsistent with her aggressive advocacy for her daughter's care. If she cared that much about her daughter, she wouldn't end her life! How can the same person be both desperate and emphatic about treating her kid's physical pain, but capable of inflicting devastating emotional pain on that same child by killing the child's mother? I smell something here, I'm sorry. There's some piece of this story that's not been included in the original narrative that, were it to come to light, might make more sense out of all the weird contradictions that are all over this case.

[@nextjuanplz]

"for the most part"?

[@martianvideo]

Well it's just came out she was violated by a doctor as well. Will have to be a separate case.

[@louieo.blevinsmusic4197]

@@MeganVictoriaKearnsthe amount of rope one needs differs from person to person. As someone who has lost a child and now is an uncle, there will never be enough but I’m just 1 of billions.

[@moonmushroom6996]

This story broke my heart. I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and ended up with CRPS. It was the most painful months of my life. I could not imagine watching my child suffer in that pain and not be believed. Unfortunately, CRPS is nicknamed the suicide disease. That is how painful it is.

[@StellaReardon]

I spent 6 years being misdiagnosed, called a drug addict,, drug seeker, emotional, depressed, etc. When I did get to doctors by that time, before knowing i had CRPS, I am sure they thought I was aggressive and mentally ill, too. And desperate to find anyone to help make sense of this pain. I can't imagine being the mother of a child with CRPS, I'd have been in jail at the very least...that poor mother. One thing I'll add is the remission for children is more likely than adults. Not many CRPS patients have their pain resolved in a year. I mean no offense, the story is done and explained compassionately and well, sir.

[@kathrynnickel6553]

This is interesting. I have some symptoms of ED, at the very least hyper mobility. I also had CRPS and struggle with chronic pain. I feel for you!

[@kathrynnickel6553]

@@StellaReardonI was in pain for years with CRPS. Luckily for me, I already knew that morphine doesn’t really work for CRPS, so was insisting to NOT be given it, and that seemed to help them take me more seriously. But even still, all the pain specialists are clogged up with drug addicts so it took me months to even see a specialist. And yes, I wanted to kill myself 100%. I’m sure I would have, had I not been willing to try anything and everything to get better. It’s the worst!

[@justsumchic746]

​@@kathrynnickel6553 What worked for you to provide pain relief?

[@andromedatonks60]

@@StellaReardonThanks for adding that about remission, that part of the video confused me as I’d always thought CRPS was longer term. Interesting that children recover more easily; I wonder if research into the reasons for that could help lead to improved treatments.

[@amaristhecrow7084]

My son has two rare-ish autoimmune disorders (comorbid) and man, I can’t imagine. I feel so glad that my child’s has been researched, validated, identifiable in blood tests AND insurance covers a large percentage of his treatments.

[@susangoodman2598]

Judge should be sued and disbarred with blood on his hands of a mother who loved her daughter and wanted to protect her daughter perfectly normal.

[@buschovski1]

Yeah, then she kills herself. Thats not normal at all. The mother had serious issues herself separate from all this.

[@jeffb.140]

​@@buschovski1 Exactly this! There was something severely wrong with her and her relationship with her daughter. Ideally she would have gotten a therapist to psychologically navigate the whole situation.

[@littlelam3691]

@@buschovski1 she was in a situation that was anything but normal. I can completely understand why she did what she did.

[@lozpopo]

@@jeffb.140 Her daughter was in incurable, uncontrollable pain daily with no treatment being offered and no light on the horizon, its not surprising she was mentally unstable in such a situation.

[@cornypinkuni9519]

​@@jeffb.140Only the selfish and deplorably unempathetic would not be able to see the honourable effort this mother was making and what she was up against. Something not right with all who abused their power over these vulnerable people. That's what wasn't right.

[@angelatheriault8855]

I can understand how the mother would get extremely pushy when her daughter was hurting and the hospital staff refused to do what she thought was necessary to alleviate her pain. She stepped on their toes so they decided to punish her and teach her a lesson for daring to tell them their job and demanding they do it.

[@carriemummy]

For once, i disagree with your conclusion. Maya was confirmed to have CRPS. The attitude of her Mother came from being Polish, they are much more to the point than Americans.

[@adish7275]

Racist.

[@hashtagmate]

And they are loud and obnoxious and lack manners

[@brath4039]

@@hashtagmatethe Americans?😂

[@sharonnorvell3397]

😅

[@emghee2510]

I think that's Eastern Europeans in general. Half my family's Romanian and it really throws people off how direct and to the point they are. Sure, they're a bit dry but there's no hostility in their demeanour.

[@Catcapozzi]

A few issues with this commentary: 1) the hospital detained Maya and refused to discharge her for three days before they were legally allowed to keep her via a DCFS court order. 2) The doctors had insufficient knowledge of CRPS, which meant their decision to report was less from a stance of reasonableness and more from ignorance 3) at the point the hospital/DCFS heard that several licensed doctors were treating Maya's condition and were the ones administering/prescribing the high quantities of pain medication, then the hospital's suspicions should have shifted from the Kowalskis to the practitioners. The Kowalskis can't be guilty of abuse if they were following the advice of doctors. While taking perhaps a week to ascertain the facts is reasonable (though this doesn't absolve them of refusing to discharge), under no circumstance do I see three months as being acceptable.

[@wsrtwetr]

maybe the laws in florida are different, in other countries, they do not need evidence of abuse to report to local CPS. they can report simply base on suspicion, it is up to CPS to investigate and make a determination. Munchelsons simply assume the parents have made up reasons and excuses for different doctors to prescribe unnecesary medication - such as in gypsy rose blanchard's case. So no, it would not make them immediately innocent, they would need to interview the doctors and take into account their findings and find an independent expert to reassess her. That is what should have happened. Instead Dr Smith file her report with CPS without including one of the Drs. recommendations and findings resulting in CPS making the choices that they did and the judge agreeing. It's a failure of a system that relies on 1 person to make an important decision. This should have been done by a panel or a meeting in consult with senior CPS staff taking into consideration of Maya's complete medical history and interaction with CPS (which as we know was none prior to this incident). Blaming the hospital and CPS is easy. They certainly did wrong. It's not a wrong done by one person, it's a problem a system without check and balances. People make mistakes and they will make mistakes on complicated issues such as child protection, thats why there should be back stops and policies put in place to catch these mistakes before it end up going to far

[@francinejones2524]

I cried and cried and cried during this Netflix doco. As a registered nurse I am ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED in Dr SALLY WHATEVER-WHOEVER-HELL-YOU-THINK-YOU-ARE, and disgusted in Johns Hopkins. You did destroy this family. And you DID NOT do the right thing even though that’s what you keep telling yourself. My heart is with Maya, Kyle, and Dad.💖

[@wldncrzy1971]

They are in deeeep 💩with the judge in Maya’s case…Monday tells the tale! To be continued…

[@mycb1993]

Absolutely appalling You are 100% correct from this RN

[@ItsThicc]

How are you crying over this?

[@wsrtwetr]

i bet 650k definitely makes people feel like they are doing the right thing lol

[@BeckyP-3]

As a Polish immigrant myself, I’m sure Beata was stunned how the hospital, the doctors and the court wouldn’t listen to her and were able to over rule her parenting. Beata wasn’t being emotional in her mind, she had based her decisions on what she knew worked. If anything, Beata was guilty of being impatient and eventually the system wore her out. 🇵🇱❤️

[@joasok3642]

Exactly.Pewnie zobaczyli imigrantke i dawaj sie znecac i lekcewazyc.Masakra.

[@wsrtwetr]

a very very fair comment. If she was guilty of anything, it was not being patient, potentially being loud, demanding, and maybe rude. That doesnt mean she deserve her daughter to be taken away. However, that behavior tends to attract CPS complains because thats usually how child abusers act -FYI for any parents. Doctors and nurses don't care whether you actually abuse your child or not. Even if you didnt and we believe you didn't certain incidents would require us to call CPS on you whether we like it or not. Unless we plan on throwing away our career for a mother who is unruly which none of us ever would, you just have to go talk to CPS calmly. Blame the system and the child abusers for creating a need for such aggressive CPS and the lack of oversight from CPS. Your healthcare professionals are just doing their jobs.

[@wandab6686]

She was a high performing person and the people in the hospital were not. She probably was enraged by their lack of knowledge and their egos. Especially since they are “John Hopkins” and supposed to be so great.

[@schoolinJOO]

doctor grande, this woman had done this to more than one set of parents with the same pattern : inaccuracy to the point of criminality. If your child was in agony, i would think, you too would be experiencing an agony seeing your child in pain & suffering. You too would be stressed, irritable if you weren’t being heard, and you would absolutely be abrupt because you want solutions. I was baffled by this case, I have never in all my years in healthcare heard of people injecting themself so directly into the lives of a patient and their family. it is none of their business. Rather than following up and getting medical records which you would think they would do to get a solid plan of care or understand the one already in place, but they didn’t. Had they, they would have understood the length of time the patient and her family have endured this medical drama and it would have opened their eyes to how exhausted and frustrating their situation was. So frustrating patients or their families exist ? of course, but that has nothing to do with the care they should be provided

[@ceilconstante640]

The medical system has to much power that's unchecked. It'd extremely hard to sue for malpractice and you only have a few years to prove your case. Being that a patient is in horrible shape by then, they're left scrambling to Alternative Doctors or to Mexico for help and the time passes. Most MD's are Narscissist and know what they can get away with.

[@pamelapamper]

​​@@ceilconstante640 ketamine is not some therapeutic cure, it's literally a class A drug, it causes damage in these doses they were using. They put the child in a coma with high doses of ketamine in Mexico which is crazy tbh, that sounds like mk ultra type of experiments.

[@jeffb.140]

" I was baffled by this case, I have never in all my years in healthcare heard of people injecting themself so directly into the lives of a patient and their family. it is none of their business." They should just look the other way when child abuse is happening???

[@vanessasneed9313]

I can't get passed the fact the hospital was sending the claims to the insurance Co for her having CRPS but was telling the Mother there was no way she had it...And for you to EVEN SUGGEST THIS HOSPITAL ISNT WRONG, YOU HAVE ISSUES and need therapy for your ego.

[@aquarius5461]

It’s a bugger when you’re denied the chance to hug your own child! Such an heartbreaking end for a loving mother! Thanks for this upload Dr grande….

[@conscientiousobserver8772]

FWIW, it is not uncommon for a child to be stoic and brave, even in pain. That said, it is extremely common to see the tears flow once mom enters the room. It's primal. Surprised a psychologist wouldn't point that out.

[@angeleyes3386]

This was such a sad case. I usually don’t cry but this documentary brought me to tears

[@cleopatra444]

what is the name of the documentary ? now i want to watch it 👀

[@samommen]

@@cleopatra444taking care of maya

[@jeffhardy501]

Verdict just came back and the Hospital lost, they were in the wrong! Justice was served!

[@brendaholiday]

I’m so glad there are so many medical professionals contradicting this take. Even in my own EMT-Basic training and in my rotations in the ER, we were told repeatedly that we are seeing patients on their worst day, often while they’re in a lot of pain. We need to give them grace and compassion. Not demand that they be polite and reasonable. I hope the judge who wouldn’t let Beata even hug her own child and blocked Maya’s ketamine treatments is removed from the bench.

[@JohnSmith-wi4xo]

At 0:47, you say Beata “did not have an excellent command of the English language.” That’s incorrect. I watched the documentary, and although she has a somewhat thick Polish accent (which is to be expected because that’s where she’s from), her English was very good, pretty much fluent. And I’m a native English speaker. Am I missing something here?

[@shimmer8289]

​@@neverstopwhistleum that was over 20 years and a nursing degree prior to be fair. I noticed in her suicide note she spelled heart ....hart. but with English as ur second language and about to take ur life I'd overlook that.

[@AlyssaTaylor9]

As a mother putting myself in Beata's shoes: this was a terrifying and extremely stressful prolonged situation that surely affected her behavior. You're seeing physician after physician who simply cannot explain why your child is suffering so much, until finally this treatment provides a glimmer of hope. Finally, there's some relief. Its extremely expensive which adds to the financial stress, but at least _something_ is working and _someone_ has an answer. Then another episode of pain occurs and you tell the nurses the only thing that's helped so far. You BEG them to administer it and lose your temper because you're so sick and tired of your baby being in pain, only to find that you're not being believed and even worse, you're being suspected of being the cause of it. This isn't to say that Beata always behaved in the best or most sensible way, or that the staff weren't at all justified in their suspicion, just that I get why this was a source of such agony for her that caused her to lash out at hospital staff.

[@chilloften]

Top that off with her busy work schedule.

[@amieaiello3456]

Ironically I just watched the documentary last night. My heart broke for the family, obviously. I think her mom couldn’t handle people thinking she was harming Maya and the potential of not getting her back. I’m not sure she properly communicated that she was not only a nurse but a highly qualified cardiac specialist nurse. So she obviously knows medical terminology, medication and dosages and she had seen what was helpful to Maya previously. There’s NOTHING worse than seeing your child in pain and not being able to fix it. Every time Maya cried to her in pain (children will let go where they feel safest) she would feel desperate to fix it for her. I get it. I just wish her husband or someone else would have come with them more often. Maya is so beautiful and I’m glad she’s doing better. I’m praying they find the peace they deserve.

[@elyse443]

Women are not taken seriously no matter what their qualifications, especially mothers.

[@eadweard.]

Why's that ironic?

[@janemiettinen5176]

Im hypersensitive to other peoples feelings and I wont cry, no matter how much I hurt, if I dont feel safe. It was way worse when I was younger, but even today theres some aspects left. I remember exactly when I realized I can sorta hold my feelings, I mustve been 6 and refused to cry in front of my narcissistic grandmother. Biked on a side of a nearby field like my heels were on fire and let it out.

[@dawnlovescouture2644]

Not only did she communicate her daughter’s condition well, her very detailed notes regarding Maya’s condition and what the doctors told her are what have been used to sue the hospital. This poor mom and the family did nothing but suffer because the doctors wouldn’t listen.

[@wldncrzy1971]

I’m praying they will be granted $220 million dollars and the other lawsuits with similar circumstances regarding John Hopkins and All Children’s and Sally Smith break them all and give all the families some sense of validation.

[@thehubrisoftheunivris2432]

The biggest problem in the world is that people have to much control of other people, without having the intelligence or ethics to be worthy of such a responsibility.

[@piperjaycie]

Ah yes that classic case of neglect where a parent actually takes their child to a hospital when they are very ill or in pain.🤔🙄

[@kittykat7858]

It actually does happen......

[@eadweard.]

Well it could be that the neglect led to the need for treatment.

[@adish7275]

The fact is Beaate was indagering her child by giving her 1000 MG Katamine a day. Period, intentionally or not. Maya could have died by this crazy doctor. What doctor tells a mother :" your daughter will die a slow painful death" . If the hospital ignored the signs and the child dies, it's there fault when they actually report the obvious, its their rfault

[@Healthykiddd]

@@adish7275 If that is the case I wonder why that prescribing doctor did not get in trouble. If he is giving false or dangerous medical advice and treatment then he is at fault, not the parents. They were just following his direction and trusted him since he is a medical professional with years of training and experience.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

They take their kid to Mexico to be put into a coma because no doctor in America would do it. Not neglect but certainly BIZARRE.

[@tmajcan94]

As a father, I can never being able to hug my own kids. My heart aches for the family having everything they had to endure. So glad you helped bring this case to the forefront. Spot on analysis again Dr. Grande.

[@srsusansummers3070]

No amount of money will bring the mother back. Such a sad case

[@adish7275]

It's not their fault she killed herself, it was her choice to hurt her children this way permanently bacause of a temporary situation. The fact she could do this to Maya is mind blowing.

[@MK-Hogan]

I literally just finished watching the show on Netflix and came back to YT to see this video pop up. My blood pressure is elevated and I’m in tears. This is one of the most moving and rage-inducing stories I’ve heard in a long time, and I consume a LOT of true crime. Absolutely horrendous. Based on the information in the show, it really does seem like a couple of people just didn’t like Beata because of her blunt & pushy personality so they destroyed the lives of her entire family.

[@Jessie-xl2kh]

Something I would like to see more discussion of is how often female pain is minimized and dismissed in medical settings. If you are able to be courteous, you must not be in that much pain. When you finally can't take it anymore and start shouting at/annoying people, they diagnose you with a mental illness (whatever the latest version of "hysteria" is). It's a Catch-22, and it may well be that there was no right answer or "helpful" way for Beate to advocate for her daughter.

[@mulemule]

"(Whatever the latest version of "hysteria" is)" Well put.

[@Strype13]

The husband reporting how Maya never seemed to be symptomatic whenever he was alone with Maya, but that she "suddenly became symptomatic" whenever Biata "came home" leads me to believe that he may have felt there was something fishy going on with Biata, as well. What a strange case... and, unfortunately, quite tragic. My sincere condolences to Jack. I really hope Maya is doing much better these days.

[@abby4027]

He’s also not a nurse like Biata was. Not disagreeing but sooo many angles

[@helenvolk7299]

Whilst I haven’t watched the documentary, I would expect that Maya would allow herself to to fully express what and how she is feeling with her mother due to having a secure attachment w her. Attachment theory is a study in itself but that is a possible explanation, much like the mother who commented that her 6yo son burst into tears when he saw her when she was called to collect him.

[@abby4027]

@@helenvolk7299 how would you know what her attachment style is?

[@helenvolk7299]

@@abby4027 I don’t but as a lawyer, and an independent children’s lawyer, I’ve come to learn a bit about attachment theory.

[@abby4027]

@@helenvolk7299 gotcha!

[@barbieblue3336]

This is horrible 😪 a friend of mine is from Poland. A lot of cultures vary in how they act, how they experience events. It sounds like that's one thing that happened 😪

[@RaleighLink]

I actually agree with the hospital staff. Although I think they ended up going too far, they were right in calling out the mom for suspicious behavior. If they had done nothing and the mom killed her daughter EVERYONE would be screaming about how they should’ve stepped in.

[@HighPriestessAngelique]

This is a parents worst nightmare.

[@buschovski1]

Does your account name have to do with the wonderful late sixties vampire series Dark Shadows?

[@Veedub09]

I have 6 children, I’ve brought them all up virtually on my own, my youngest two are twins, the boy twin has always slept wayyyy more than his twin, he didn’t seem to grow anywhere near the same rate. He was written up at fail to thrive. I’ve been reported about 10-12 times.. Hes 11 now, turns out he has growth hormone deficiency And a super rare sleep disorder.. he’s now had full diagnosis and we’re getting help.. but they really thought o was doing something. I wasn’t. I was just telling them there was a problem, this isn’t normal. I advocated for my son so deeply they thought I was doing something. They would make me take him to school unconscious saying he or I was making it up.. he couldn’t be woken so they’d cal me to pick him up.. I’d have to transport him in a wheelchair. They would make him sit up on a hard chair and table and make him sleep sat up because they didn’t believe us. It took a child mental health clinician to tell them he clearly has a major problem and it’s physical not neurological. He now gets hospital schooling and a lot more help. But I had to be accused of all sorts first. But I kinda get it. I’ve never had a sorry.

[@pixie89]

Dr Grande has all my respect for not getting biased by the documentary and narrative in social media and giving his honest opinion. 👍

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande. These kinds of cases are intriguing!

[@bthomson]

Communication between treating facilities seems to have been non-existent! In the 21st century that is a sad situation.

[@birdie9196]

Did the hospital not consult with her prior physicians? I wonder if they held an ethics committee meeting also. So tragic 💔

[@angelahounschell]

The original physicians tried to fight for them and they were disregarded.

[@HealingMusic123]

They never do. You offer them copies of medical records. My young adult son has a rare disorder and a letter from his treating doctor that explains the disorder and which meds work and which won't. The ER docs don't believe and want to do their own thing. My son was held hostage in a hospital for 10 days - just like this mom - police came and threatened to arrest me - for what I have no idea. The nursing staff were calling me a "Karen" and making fun of me and my son. The hospital was making him physically WORSE and they wouldn't listen. It was the most horrific experience of our lives.

[@adish7275]

Her doctor was a lunatic. Who tells a mother "your daughter will die a long painful death" ( of course he was wrong). And out of all of the doctors in the world she chose to listen to him.

[@EffSharp]

@@adish7275there were at least 5 doctors who concluded she had Crps dear. 2 neuros, 2 anesthesiologists and 1 pediatrician, if I recall the numbers correctly. Might have been more. And dr smith kept information out of her report.

[@Likeapigeon86]

My daughter is currently in a custody battle with an abusive ex. An ex that has threatened to kill her and her child. Hes called the police, CPS, and anyone else to annoy and harass us daily. The state in every single department has flat out refused any common sense or compitence. I have lost faith in the system after witnessing what my daughter and granddaughter are experiencing and this video solidifies this more.

[@mollys_hobbies]

This case had me crying so hard. As someone with EDS who grew up seeing literal dozens of doctors and being diagnosed as psychosomatic symptoms, I could have easily been in maya's situation. My mother was very stern and assertive to doctors, telling them that something was clearly wrong with me and they were idiots for not seeing that. I remember the faces of the doctors and nurses and I felt like they suspected her or something like that. It always gave me anxiety. When i read about this case I was incredibly heartbroken but also grateful that this didn't happen to us. We even went to Mexico to get better care, and honestly I've gotten so much better care than I ever have gotten in the US. I disagree with Dr. Grande, this mother only advocated for her daughter and the staff took it personally without feeling empathy for the family

[@jatats7743]

What a tragic story. I can not imagine what that felt like as a parent.

[@PerryUK]

The helplessness of that poor mother is heartbreaking

[@jillismyname100]

I appreciate your take on this case! So many people are basing their opinions off the Netflix doc, which as you said is extremely biased. I wish more people would stop reacting emotionally and try to view the situation from the hospital's perspective. Imagine what people would say if the hospital *didn't* do anything and then Maya died from a ketamine overdose? Hospitals are mandated reporters and while there are always bad people in any profession, I firmly believe that most nurses and doctors genuinely try their best to help people. Not to mention, they are mandated reporters so they HAVE to report suspicions of child neglect/abuse.

[@ckp2ator389]

I'm somewhat familiar with this pain syndrome as my niece by marriage had starting at 10 after a gymnastic injury. It is so hard on the parents and all-consuming when your child is in constant pain, can't sleep, misses school, and all the conventional methods don't work. They did take their child out of the country for two Ketamine treatments that did work for awhile. Fortunately, niece through all the pain managed to get a masters degree, a successful career and married a couple years ago. But I can see how going through this situation over a long period would be crazy-making for a parent. Poor Beata.

[@elyse443]

This country has criminalized parenting. It’s sickening!

[@inigauxreign9985]

They want your kids. They will send men dressed in bright colors in schools dancing inappropriately for children.

[@JustMeTooooo1]

Dr Michael stanton-Hicks out of Cleveland clinic was the CRPS MASTER. The knowledge he possessed was phenomenal. Sad , now that he retired but he worked into his 80s when he found that he taught colleagues and fellows.

[@TheBub26]

could he have possibly been a dr feelgood that created an imaginary illness for profit? jury is still out on cprs

[@nhmooytis7058]

I was a patient at CC in the Eighties for my thyroid, they were excellent. Went back in 2010, also for thyroid, they were terrible.

[@owatinay]

I work in palliative care and one factor not mentioned here is that people with chronic pain that can't be resolved often cause cognitive dissonance for health professionals. Health professionals often stake their whole identity on fixing problems and "saving people". So when they don't have the answer and don't know how to fix the condition they often throw the uncomfortable feeling of failure back on the patient and *blame them* for their symptoms and the failure to treat them. It's easier to believe they are just being difficult, drug seeking, making it up or exaggerating than to admit we don't know how to help them. And once a patient is labeled "difficult", the relationship with them then becomes quite adversarial. I can see how factitious disorder was and should have been explored. But given the two possibilities, the diagnosis that blames the patient (or family) for the unknown will be the more likely choice quite often. One of the saddest things about this is that there are effective psych treatments for complex pain syndromes but they often are resisted by patients because they see anything psych as the same old accusation that it is a mental health problem.

[@darkwing3713]

They get incredibly nasty when there isn't a simple fix. ARFID is also a favorite weapon. A relative of mine went into a hospice center undiagnosed. In order to kick her out, they brought in a psychiatrist and gave her an ARFID diagnosis - then they called up her insurance to make her ineligible for hospice. She could barely move, had chronic diarrhea with level 9 pain from almost every food, and was clearly dying. And they were demanding she go into an out of state residential treatment program for something she didn't have. She already wanted to leave, so they has nothing to worry about. But that wasn't enough for them.

[@TheChosenAlchemist144]

At the timestamp 12:43 of his analysis on the Netflix documentary, Take Care of Maya, Dr Grande states: "this isn't fair but it is common" as if what....??? We must accept Institutional Abuse on it's face bc it's common!?!?!?

[@marcdraco2189]

That's one of the best analysis you've done recently Dr. Grande. I've seen doctors make this sort of mistake AND I've been in the mother's position too - inasmuch as I was accused of being belligerent when my kiddo was roughly handled by the clinicians and I was pegged for causing the injury. A different case, but it's horrible how people hang on to their first impression.

[@jackiegrice714]

This sounds like a really tricky situation. I understand leaning toward protecting the child. But the outcome was heartbreaking for all involved. Thanks Dr. Grande.

[@diegonatan6301]

Except for the phisicians and the judge because they don't really care unless they are direct hit by consequences.

[@adish7275]

the mother action was the one that hurt Maya the most. Everything was temporary but her choosing to kill herself was long term harmful.

[@ginger2648]

I am polish as Beata. Her behavior came for polish mentality. We are direct, pushy and we may be demanding (especially in this kind of situations), people take it as we are rude. I feel sad that being direct and honest on the communication is received this way. They kidnapped her dearest baby and everyone wants her to be nice to kidnappers. Honestly... It the same time her child was suffering from pain and even tramadol did not helped, and the most important is, Beata was impolite to hospital staff. To be fair I think you should also say, how she was treated by Hospital, about their messages... There is action and reaction, Beata reacted to how she was treated. From what I understand when they tried to get diagnoses for Maya they went to the Florida Hospital and they were told that they dont know what is Mayas disease, so for me is logical that when Maya was there again her mum just said to doctors what is the illness, as they were not able before to diagnose it....she did not trust them in the competences. Also I am not sure why you mention that Beata did not have an excellent command of English, how this is important in this story? As you can see my English is not also that great but I dont really think it is a problem to anyone.

[@jassbass8153]

You do not think it is a problem, but others do think it is a problem....

[@garydomaz1849]

The feeling of desperation to see when your child is in severe pain. You will never ever understand that until it happens to you. Seeing your child in such a bad way, it makes you aggressive, but for a very good reason.

[@vitorialima8399]

I can relate to how frustrated Beata was on not being heard about her daughter's condition, my mom had to hear those same thing once about my younger sister, my sister has seizures since she is a baby and she also just walked on her tip toes, but because her seizures were, mostly, the absence seizures, my mom had to hear that she was being paranoid and to stop looking for things that weren't there. She had to go to another city to get the correct diagnosis. This still make our family angry to this day, but my sister is now 11-years-old and as healthy as she can get and with the correct medication.

[@ponygroom]

I am commenting on this video for the first time today. The jury is in. The award is huge. The hospital plans to appeal. A criminal complaint has been filed. At trial, it became obvious from paper evidence that the hospital management and certain medical professionals abused this family. They also defrauded insurance by billing for a diagnosis they say Maya did not have. There are numerous news articles now. There are other lawsuits against this hospital, some settled for millions of dollars and other pending. The CEO resigned. Obviously hospital policies are part of the problem. $50 million in punitive damages and by Florida law insurance cannot pay any of that part. I encourage everyone reading this to look up the news articles and read several.

[@Catsss1017]

How come they never seem to care or help the true victims?

[@kittykat7858]

So you get upset if they report possible abuse but also upset if they don't report possible abuse? Be glad you don't have to make those choices.

[@lenalena1683]

it's easy, IMHO. this particular mother was annoying to them. They just want get rid of her. They didn't care about daughter whatsovever.

[@Catsss1017]

⁠@@kittykat7858the F are you talking about? HOW MANY CHILDREN HAS BEEN MURDERED. WHEN ABUSE WAS RIGHT IN THEIR FACE BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO DO THEIR JOB!!!!! What about the little boy that was raped and murdered by his mother’s boyfriend???? He was in police custody with bruises and injuries all over his body and he was sent back! Get the f outta here

[@tinmule4381]

She was awarded $250 million via jury. They disagree with you, Dr. grande.

[@BevJHAR]

Back in the early 90s we took my 3-year-old son to the ER for an allergic reaction. We were put thru the mill before our regular family Dr rescued us. He told me only to go to ER for life/death ....I still follow that advice.

[@Tris-Mimi]

I wish I knew this back then. My 10-day old baby fell off sofa so I took him to ED. He appeared normal but as a new mom ( and with very good health insurance) I did not hesitate. It was a BIG mistake. Lurie Children hospital called police and DCSF because they concluded 10 day old baby wouldn’t move, I must had done something to him to cause his fracture, and if it was not me it was my mom. It is shocking how easily a few health care professionals can destroy your life.

[@BevJHAR]

@@Tris-Mimi ER docs are usually residents I.e. trainees and they're told to look for abuse and unfortunately they take it too far.

[@deeceepnw]

@@Tris-Mimiyes, too true. As a first time parent, I was paranoid about just about everything, especially considering my baby was a crash c-section with time in the NICU. The only ace up my sleeve was that I had been a paramedic years before and knew those ropes. I still had a basic EMT bag in my car and skillz. Only took her to the ED when she went cyanotic in the back seat from an anaphylactic reaction to an antibiotic. She ended up having a severe asthma attack and spent 4 days in the hospital. She was hospitalized 4X that year. Thankfully her doctor was affiliated with the hospital so nobody was called to report me. My medical knowledge was verifiable, but even then, would come under scrutiny when she was later diagnosed with CRPS in her twenties.

[@shellyharry8189]

Thank you Dr. Grande for such a fair and balanced commentary.

[@richardwait1206]

You omit altogether the role the social worker played & how influential she was in directing medical opinion

[@ladymuck2151]

The judge that said she couldn’t hug her child should take some accountability. What a ridiculous ruling. He had no right to do that

[@manco828]

This judge committed murder with that act.

[@IronDogger]

I couldn’t imagine my family being accused of these atrocities while trying to find my Leukemia which took over 14 years! I was under 100lbs and dying before they figured it out! I had 2 hemoglobins and barely alive before the doctors finally figured it out. I also suffer from CRPS and a whole nightmare of major medical issues. I have been through medical nightmares on multiple situations and had many doctors not know what was wrong and just blew it off that it was in my head. That is a horrible experience!

[@Maggiemae01]

I like how you break up the "all or nothing" rage society resorts to. I wanted to be upset with the staff but given the circumstances I probably would have thought those same things. Sometimes there are just tragedies that cannot be avoided no matter the effort.

[@adish7275]

The mother choosing to commit suicide made this the tragedy it is. The fact she could do this to her children blows my mind, knowing how much Maya loved her.

[@GigiRulesTheRoost]

Can you imagine a court telling parents they can't seek out a drug that they think will help their child?

[@z0zRAMC]

I live in the UK, so yes lol. Our doctors deny medications all the time for a multitude of reasons. Medications are much more tightly regulated here. Generally speaking, you get what you’re given and have little say on what is prescribed. Which, I think is for the best.

[@thecheese4255]

@@z0zRAMC Seems a double edged sword... especially when a state like the UK steps in and says, “Not only are you being denied domestically, but we are also declaring you may not leave this island to seek treatment abroad because we believe that’s best.” I support single payer healthcare here in the US; I do not support the likes of bureaucratic tyranny which has been on display from the UK from time to time

[@adish7275]

Of course They can, and thank God for that.

[@NoManSly]

Yes.

[@pamelapamper]

The state shouldn't have the power to medicate a child without parental consent but demanding enormous quantities of ketamine to be given to ur child is kind of wild... I'm pretty sure they have other sedatives in the hospital.

[@bronsiee]

I met a young girl with crps. She was next to my daughter in surgical ward at hospital. Really lovely family, they did tell us about how the girl was questioned extensively about fabricating her symptoms and found to be genuine. She had to travel several hours to the Children's Hospital while missing her favourite classes at school and not seeing her older sisters for weeks at a time. It was very hard on them all and I hope she has found some effective treatment

[@cdelane3335]

Netflix never makes anything that is not bias. I agree with you on this.