Top 5 Dissapointing Features in Legion

[@rizzen7]

I like how you made a disappointments video while wearing a Batman v Superman shirt. Nice touch.

[@Foretelling]

lmfao never thought of that, so true

[@FJNLLC]

no... op is correct, preach fucked up.

[@lordzevgaming3018]

I feel like you missed the OP's point.

[@DhiscoStu]

lols :D

[@blinksone2768]

Still wasn't as dissapointing as Civil war.

[@Xendrius]

Fake, you are not in legion, that's a greenscreen.

[@Shiirow]

he is actually the avatar of sargaras.

[@MrJoshDada]

woooah I watch your videos about magicians and I didn't expect to find you on a wow comment section

[@Xendrius]

I play WoW and league, I follow both games closely :)

[@kempachi9]

didnt you know, thats demonic magic man

[@Dotoku14]

Don't really care to much about any of these 'negatives' myself.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

he stated thats what he was disappointed in. honestly they are a little disappointing but nothing to the level i feel the game will be shit

[@Giliver]

you have no issue with the talent swap mechanic?... really? instead of using a VERY cheap reagent, now we're going to have to pay a scribe to make them. (which from the sounds of it, it'll be fairly expensive...) you actually have no problem with being stuck with aoe talents for example? it sucks man :(

[@Mr_Noteworthy]

You just dont switch per pull instead you just bring a mage or warlock or worst case use your ST talents for trash. Most players already do that even when given the opportunity to switch readily for low cost. And the scribe drop will be like dropping a repair bot or feast (potentially higher cost) and with a guild donating the mats, they should be able to get quite a lot. Furthermore, they're just going back to their ideology of your talent choices should matter, the only difference is now there are legitimate reasons to choose other talents opposed to X talent is best 99% of the time. With that being said, all the other disappointments annoy me though (granted I wouldn't say gamebreaking except maybe tanking and gear>skill change depending on how much).

[@Vyomesh839]

Supply and demand will probably mean that in the first few weeks these will be fairly expensive. But it will go down as more players will do inscription, or with guilds donating mats to their scribes to make tomes.

[@DanteAvalon]

They actually removed the feast talent swap item and replaced it with a tome. Its basically just another item you have buy now like a potion or a flask. Swapping on the fly sounded nice though. And when they made it so you could only swap in rested xp areas, all the "top tier" guilds would definiteley send all their members out, have the respec, then come back in. Raiders definiteley want to be the best they can in a fight typically. Not, "sorry guys I'm gonna really suck this fight and a couple more fights down the line"

[@tjoms182]

Players: "We want attunements back!" Blizzard: "Here you go, attunements" Players: "Omg i have to do something before i can do other stuff? this sucks!" Blizzard: "...."

[@TheInfamousCloaker]

Players: So you're telling me we have to do some content we already would do before we could do the content we would do?

[@civilian4live]

He preached in the BC legacy video how attunements made the game better, now he completely flip flops.....lol wtf.

[@MUGENGaming]

iT'S ALMOST AS IF ALL PLAYERS AREN'T THE SAME.

[@Terestrasz]

I don't mind attunements - if it's like dungeon runs, hello dungeon finder. The biggest problem I had with the attunements before was the fact that once you finished, there was *no* reason to go back and do them again to help the hundreds of people who you left in the dirt - since after all, you have your tier x stuff. Why on earth are you going to run back and do Karazhan for stuff a tier below you? You get essentially no rewards for your effort! And if it was a single-player quest chain, then all the better - you get to do it by yourself. Say what you will horde players, I got trial of blood done with only a group of three people - during that time, I could have done jailbreak, yes, but that's how long it would take just to get a damn group going to BRD. Seriously. *NOBODY*, and I repeat, *NOBODY* Wanted to do Jailbreak. ONce you were done, everyone *HATED* that thing *SO MUCH* that you had to catch a group as it formed, and those people were *not* going to go back and do it again. The playerbase would quickly declare themselves "done" with something and refuse to do it again even though others needed it. (Like our hunters. Our hunters were raiding BWL in UBRS stuff and Vendorstrike cause hunter gear never dropped, meanwhile we go into MC and toss out an entire set of Felheart and two fucking Valor chestplates because Golemagg kept fucking dropping it....)

[@Terestrasz]

It depends for me in all honesty. STuff you can accomplish with a dungeon finder? No biggie - The issue I had in TBC was that everyone got so burned out on my server that I wound up falling behind just cause I couldnt' find any groups. (They would form once a month.) Stuff you can accomplish single-player like a quest chain? No biggie again. It's not "hard"... just tedious. A lot of people forget the hardest part of Vanilla WoW was getting people to do do what you wanted. Managing 40-60 people in a guild gave our GM Grey hairs. Rebuilding after a clique left the guild and doing Jailbreak and LBRS 5-man or attunement web for the *FIFTEENTH TIME* was a headache. (Since think of it this way - I have Black Temple gear. I ran Karazhan 8675309 times, nothing there drops for me. It's a waste of time for me to run it even if some of the events aged well.)

[@julianor1671]

I actually like the attunements coming back

[@SK4R1337]

Anevo - Electric Heart (Feat. Ameria) first song

[@warkoto4919]

i hate suramar, at least as a ret paladin its just a wipefest in the main city. They need to have way less mobs all over so getting spotted isnt such a pain

[@SK4R1337]

oh oops, sorry wrong comment

[@Retributzen]

Try a warrior in surmar city then. Choosing smart routes and keeping the disguise up can save you huge amounts of time and you won't die as often.

[@ZurielWraithblades]

Say that again in year when youre helping guildies and alts get these attunements for the 100th time...

[@nuclearping]

Vanilla: OMG you got a Legendary item!!!! Legion: OMG you got no Legendary item???

[@turhanuner]

If these are the top disappointing things in legion, it means legion is going to kick ass! Hype is real

[@Drivertilldeath]

exactly !!!!! well said.

[@Preachgaming]

indeed, they are very minor in the grand scheme

[@bakashiki4514]

Except tanking :(

[@albertgeorgy6827]

agree

[@turhanuner]

I also hope, with our feedback like these on the expansion and content after release, they will even fix these minor concerns with a major patch. That will make legion way better! Great content btw, keep it up Preach :)

[@kalibos]

That shirt is horrendous, preacher. I love it

[@Heidelmann]

The music intro...now that is horrendous.

[@maggimaster]

i heard the intro and just thought "PREACHER WHO HURT YOU?!?!"

[@Ellais]

Preach standing up instead of sitting in his chair, no can't handle this... JK but it does feel weird.

[@justaviewer1252]

You should watch some of his oldest videos. Standing up in front of a low res webcam with kinda lousy audio. But still the same great content

[@kirssmith5060]

same, does feel weird preach standing, and feels he talking with his hands more and looks like he feels out of place

[@xdevinx5664]

I felt the same freaking way like why is Preach standing my brain it cannot even handle it

[@Derrikbulginheadin]

Makes him more authoritative :)

[@michaelfisher4408]

He got a new shirt to show off 😂

[@Remedyl]

I really like the intro where you give a brief overview of whats comming next + the music part, keep it up!

[@JakeIAB]

Court of Stars and The Arcway are now Mythic only

[@heroicxidiot]

mmo champion

[@julianor1671]

yes, but this change was announced just as he released the video

[@JakeIAB]

Julianor Yeah mate, never denied that

[@jmaster1245]

personally, sounds like a good idea

[@Zhohan-]

Love that idea!

[@JPvanEngelen]

Pre-WoD: "we want to have flying removed Just to get that nostalgic feeling." After-WoD: "We fcking hate not flying!"

[@monkeyking9863]

and now they have flying again they want it removed, i can see why blizzard rarely listens to the "community"

[@EviIM0nk3y]

Absolutely, no one knows what they want lol

[@D4AM]

No flying would've been fine if they hadn't added flying mounts to the cash shop, if they hadn't made ALL of Draenor a massive phasing fuck up. World pvp is not possible because of the phasing.

[@firedrake110]

Not flying for a year or so was okay. Not having any relevant professions and being done Archaeology on the first day of the expansion is what really rustled my jimmies

[@TheOrchidEater]

I love flying. I was totally cool with the achievements that you needed to get to earn it. If you don't want to do that content, fine, no flying for you. Usually if someone doesn't want to do the content, maybe, just maybe they don't need flying. I can see a PvPer complaining about it. Well, guess what? You don't fly in Arenas now, do you? :3

[@hifgames7076]

Good video preach. As a dirty casual I don't think many of these will affect me greatly, though I can definitely understand why it may bother some players a lot. Overall though I get the impression that the pro's outweighs the cons in Legion. I'm pretty hyped. Overall how do you feel about end game solo content? That's what I'm most interested in.

[@jonnyswift1646]

Seeing as Suramar is the end game solo content, I believe he already covered it. He said he absolutely loved it.

[@dovekie3437]

Yeah I disagreed with every point pretty heavily. I just want to be able to progress solo/with friends outside of raids which I have almost always find pretty unfun.

[@unixtreme]

That was the philosophy in previous expansions "the game is getting easier but the pros outweight the cons" everybody was hyped until 3 months after the expansion we all realized it was shit... Making things easier (like tanking) doesn't help anyone, not even the casual, hell I'm now a casual myself but theres literally 0 sense of achievement in wow, it's turned into a massive theme park where you just go in, follow the rails and "have fun". That content is as dull as a COD campaign, you clear it with no effort whatsoever, zero skill, zero gear as its thrown at our faces, zero choices as they don't matter anymore and... then what? Then you unsub and think "that was a good investment"?

[@jonnyswift1646]

unixtreme I agree that dulling things down to compensate for some players is the wrong idea,but i think that there is still some challenging and effort requiring content, it's just a matter of is it the content you like and are you willing to give the effort it takes to reach that content let alone complete it.

[@hifgames7076]

I thought the beginning of warlords was awsome. I liked the leveling. I liked the story. I loved Highmaul. I even liked the endgame the first couple of months. Zones were busy and I had loads of things to travel around and do. IMO I think one of the biggest reasons warlords went to shit was because all that endgame they'd made became outdated in a couple of months. We were "over-awarded" and flushed with mats/gold/currencies and gear so quickly the whole endgame they'd build became pointless and suddenly we were left with nothing. Then happens 6.2 with no additional content and we're screwed. The content they'd build for WoD wasn't completely shit. It was just pointless, and they didn't put in enough effort to fix/add new endgame. I'd say make mats/gold/currencies/gear harder to get and we'd have a longer lasting game. Make mobs/quests/dungeons/bosses/raids more difficult and we'll have a more fun game. Mix the 2 and we're good.

[@redryan20000]

wait, how did you teleport yourself into the game in front of that portal?

[@Danthegard2000]

Wow, just wow

[@minder5066]

he's a GM

[@joshuallake]

He built a dark portal in the spare room.

[@bored4428]

You need to buy the teleport from the cash shop.

[@issack28]

Knight Artorias 66y

[@Alkusanat]

Well... this just came out: "Specialization System Changes Characters can now change between any of their specializations at most any time for a progressive gold cost. Action bar configurations are saved for each specialization. As a result, Dual Specialization has been removed. Characters can queue up as any role that is available to their class and will automatically switch to the suitable specialization when entering the Dungeon, Raid, Battleground, or Arena without any gold cost. For example, a paladin might be questing as Retribution but queue up in Dungeon Finder as a Tank. When the paladin enters the dungeon, they will automatically switch to Protection."

[@Rhodair]

It's been like that since Alpha. Preach mentioned it also in his video about the regeant requirement for the talents, mentioning how it's actually easier to change specializations than individual talents now, so you could have a fury aoe spec or arms single target spec. Many classes won't have type of spec option available, though, since dual spec is gone and you can't just save 2 versions of the same spec anymore.

[@pldcanfly]

Why would you attach a cost to that? What's the reasoning behind it? Just let people fool around and do what they want instead of discouraging them to try things out. Get your goldsinks in other areas of the game...

[@davinp3874]

this is outdated. The cost to change spec has been removed and in its place blizzard have added the requirement of either being in a rested place eg cities or you can use a tome created by players with inscription to change your talents

[@felixweapon]

Still sounds like gold to me...

[@Kadedk]

thanks internet explorer

[@charlesscott1468]

preach.....i had to stop myself at 1:21 to type this.......F'ing love the intro to this video man. Well done well done. Tip of the F'ing hat seriously. I had to pause to let you know before i go back to watching and give it a big ole thumbs up.

[@FruchteisMitErdbeer]

What's the problem with locking off flying? I thought it was a great choice to have flying locked unless you really want it. Flying is not required to do anything, why should it be optained freely then?

[@sweptay]

I think the problem he had with it is that there was specific amount of things you needed to do to unlock it. Whereas I think he wanted something like "Complete 6 out of this list of 10 achievements and you unlock flying." Where the achievements are spread across different content. At least that's how I understood he wanted it. Could be wrong.

[@FruchteisMitErdbeer]

Gary Rice Yeah I guess, I just don't really understands why he keeps on saying that blizzard forces us to do that content, when really flying is not required at all. For Wod I actually thought the sollution was great, no flying unless you really wanted it.

[@renancza]

He even stated that himself, before flying was added to WoD, that there was no need to fly for anything. He doesn't even care about anything else in the game other than hardcore group activities, so it doesn't really surprise me that he whines about having to play the game outside of these activities.

[@FruchteisMitErdbeer]

Renan Czajkowski But he doesn't have to? As far as I know there is still no reason in WoD to fly for anything. And if you really wanted to you can always just use the feather,

[@renancza]

FruchteisMitErdbeer True, he doesn't have to and in fact he still didn't unlock it, last I heard. Question is, if he doesn't care about it and it doesn't make a decisive difference, why would he put it in a top 5 dissapointments? It's just like not wanting to have a car, being perfectly happy with a bycicle, but keep whining about how hard it is to get money to buy a car.

[@Glasspioneer5524]

Very professional and interesting retrospective on Legion content. Thumbs up. Great video man! Keep it up.

[@highvoltage988]

I think if Legiondaries were just "super epics" without that unique Orange item text I'd be totally fine with them. I'm cool with the cloak and ring in the past 2 expansions but these are seriously watering down the word "legendary".

[@SerialNightmare]

I can honestly only agree with the first sentence here. The cloak and ring, while they DID require the player to complete a rather long and arduous quest chain, they still didn't have the feel of a legendary. In MoP, when you went to the shrine, nearly every single player at level cap had one. At that point it's basically just another "super epic" as you said. The same is true with the ring in WoD. Rewind back to WotLK.. you only saw a small number of people on your server running around with Shadowmourne, or the hammer from Ulduar. In TBC, I've only seen one hunter in game in my entire WoW life to have that Thoridal bow. Even back in TBC, I saw maybe 2 (at most) Sulfuras, and I never saw Thunderfury until WotLK.. Hell, I'm pretty sure that even the Cata legendaries were more rare and difficult to obtain. Basically legendaries have become glorified epics.. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard just up and deleted grey/white/green items altogether, and basically made blue the new green, purple the new blue and orange the new purple.. it's basically what's happening. Hell, back in vanilla it was hard as fuck just to get epic items, let alone one of the legendaries. Now you get rng reroll epics from quest rewards and drops off mobs. These "welfare legendaries" seem to take drastically away from the sense of accomplishment one felt when acquiring a legendary in the past. How special and rare is that item you got when there are 5 other people in your guild that got the same thing within the week you got yours? How special do you really feel about having that ring and cloak knowing that 90% of your server also has it? People have forgotten what it used to be like when you'd be stopping into a major city to clear bags, hit the AH, maybe do a few profession things between zone changes while levelling, and happen across BillyBadAss with and even just a handful of epics, maybe not even fully geared.. It would inspire a player to do greater things than what I can only compare to the old TBC daily quest farming.. Tedious, somewhat grindy, but in the end, a lot of mindless farming.

[@Sonicboom1ish]

+SerialNightmare this was well said. kudos

[@gordn_ramsi]

Just change them to epics, lower the itme level a little bit and make them not unique-equipped.

[@SerialNightmare]

***** Sometimes I try. =D

[@acegamestv]

Its true, but the words effect on your ears is second to the item's effect in game. The recent legendaries have been monumental. This ring especially. This thing literally breaks the encounters, and is easily the strongest item ever in the video game. It feels legendary when you use it, but perhaps less so as you are trying to get it? Regardless, I agree calling these items legendaries is further diluting the meaning, but am very excited about how much of an impact they have on the gameplay of a class. Their power collectively seems INSANE, but of course that will be in a time when you will have 2-3 on at once.

[@Justno23]

The quality of this video was just awesome, it really shows how much work is put into a single of these videos. Much love Preacher, keep it up my man! Brofist!

[@aaronseet2738]

I really don't understand why the Blizzard designers/developers have such a fixation on casino jackpot gaming mentality. Players feel more rewarded and good abut themselves by witnessing their own growth in skill, not leaving fate to dice rolls.

[@jonnylater]

Man, you worked hard on this video. That must have taken so much editing. Thank you for putting so much love into your content mate.

[@emanuelmesquita6028]

that intro tho... delicious :9

[@JustForTheTunes]

I was a little upset by how these seemed blown out of proportion during each of their discussions, here, but the last two minutes quelled my worry of mountains and molehills. Always look forward to your content, Preach, and I appreciate your varied, critical insight into a game I still enjoy. Thanks and cheers, mate!

[@alec5346]

Regarding flying... Nobody is " Forcing" people to unlock it, if you want it you work for it, if you don´t want it then do what you like most. Your progress is not tied to faster transportation.

[@andrewlyon4495]

I do think once legion launches there should be a BoP tome sold for flying in draenor without Pathfinder for those who want it without doing achieves. No body but them will care and will act as gold sink. They don't get mount without pathfinder tho.

[@herogamer555]

That's not the point. it is optional content with a good reward, if you don't do the content, you don't get the reward.

[@SerialNightmare]

It is "forcing" people to unlock it. Indirectly, but still forcing. There will always be at least 1 friend, if not more, in a circle who is the "lazy" one, that thinks it's stupid to run around on the ground in any given zone. Well if he gets it, anyone else who wants to run around with that player is going to need the flying as well, or the flyer will have to sit around and wait for the non-flyer to catch up. Not to mention the effect it has on the already practically non-existent world pvp. Flying everywhere has put the nail in the world pvp coffin.

[@R0m0n3]

+SerialNightmare bro... no

[@R0m0n3]

There is nothing wrong with grinding to unlock flying. This game is too easy unless it's high end.

[@pontusolsen8146]

Love your new video design, with your comentary in the beginning and at the end. Keep it up preach :)

[@toaonua523]

Yeah, these aren't that bad for being the worst parts of Legion. Looks great!

[@simon.annies]

yeah right... tanking sucks and DPS sucks. thats only like two thirds of the game. but i guess maybe healing is fun?

[@sparrowcfc9]

That is 2/3rds of the game to you ? Wow... you must be new to WoW.

[@simon.annies]

no im long gone, just following this out of curiosity. Well yeah. WoW is tanking, DPS and healing. those are the roles in PVE. the rest, like prpfessions is added bonus stuff that doesnt really matter. If you were a PVPer, you probably would not be following preach.

[@blyjd91]

Wait... dps sucks? How?

[@simon.annies]

didnt you listen to the video? in DPS, you used to do good damage, if you played your class well. now you do good DPS when you get lucky. how does that not suck?

[@will-tani]

You've gone through all of these issues far more even-handedly than I would ever be capable of. Cheers.

[@Haywire5714]

the skill required to play a tank has been in steady decline since wotlk? what?

[@kensebben1]

preach is right, every major change since then has made it easier to tank in the worst of conditions 75+% of the time.

[@Haywire5714]

Having more options to deal with high tank damage and more choice in your gameplay is easier than being a meat shield that does nothing except holding agro and using a couple of major defensive cooldowns?

[@vicente8107]

We didn't have so many aggro generation before wrath. We basically had to make a lot of dps to not lose aggro

[@kensebben1]

The better you played, the better you did, the better gear you got the, easier things not. Not just 3 more versions of a damage absorb, self heal, bubble. I thought preachers point was we needed more interesting correct options, not more generic bland training wheel options. Which is what we got over time. I could be miss reading things.

[@Haywire5714]

You still haven't explained how tanking got easier after wotlk.

[@DenneysYT]

dude this reminds me of preaches old videos in cata he always stood up and taught me how to play warrior, i love you daddy.

[@rickandrygel913]

#1 disappointing feature of legion: It turned into bfa

[@bennydeckard]

Damn son, another solid video. I really feel like you've taken a step up in your video production quality over the past few months and your material is better than ever. Really looking forward to your future Legion stuff as we hit live.

[@gitogal]

whats the great song o..o

[@t0zu]

shazam'ed it as soon as it came up, it's really good. Electric Heart - Anevo feat. Ameria

[@gitogal]

u sir rock ^^

[@SK4R1337]

Anevo - Electric Heart (Feat. Ameria) first song

[@ProjectPetri]

immediately skipped that shit

[@aname5449]

Darude - Sandstorm

[@Halikarz31]

Your video quality has gotten so much better more recently, it's awesome. Keep up the good work Preacher, one of the few that gives real and in depth opinions, positive or negative.

[@clankford82]

You continue to put out some of the best WOW content on KZbin Preach, keep it up!

[@lihisluikku]

Lengendaries are more common than common (white/gray) items

[@vecka9105]

Really liking these legion vids very informational and well done keepem coming :D

[@TooLeetForYou]

Orange is the new purple!

[@SanguiniusBAngel]

Thank you for the informative video mate! I enjoy all of your content, thanks for doing it - much appreciated :)

[@fuccini3181]

Hey Preach...that's not how you spell disappoint. But really though, great vid as usual, keep it up sir

[@SirCowdog]

Preach, the point you made about requirements, whether flying or dungeon unlocks, is something I've been trying to pound into Blizzard fanatics and apologists for years now. I'm so glad that someone with a larger voice in the community sees the same problems.

[@Zachariah2255]

I just hate things in wow that make it hard to get back into... like the legendary ring coming off a break everyone is wanting you to be 730 with ring I can understand gearing up but I'm limited with the ring part making me wait weeks on weeks of RNG! I just hope legion doesn't have any crappy stuff like this

[@Terestrasz]

RNG is a total bitch. When I saw some of those WoW videos talking about how in MoP he kept getting gear raining from the sky, I simply asked "WTF you smoking?" because I would run dungeons for weeks and not get a single drop. Heck, you know how WoD gives you that guaranteed loot? I've broken it - I've walked out of entire dungeon runs with nothing.

[@acegamestv]

Only takes 5 weeks average to get the ring btw. Would take around that long just to get geared up fully to a level where the ring is actually needed. What you are describing is PEOPLE making it hard for you to come back. People in this game have very unfair expectations about a lot of things, and that's mostly because they themselves are too inept to be able to carry the group they are creating. Instead, focus on finding a guild of like-minded people who want to grow as a community and as characters in a video game. When you do, you'll never feel that way again. Regardless, Legion will indeed have a lot of progressive systems you need to keep ahead of. The artifact power system will be very important for maximizing your character's potential. And then of course acquiring Legendaries too. I can easily see pugs requiring a legendary on anyone who joins or something like that.

[@Terestrasz]

acegamestv Are you assuming it's the final step? Because it took me far longer than five seeks to get the ring. And I imagine that it depends a *lot* on things like say, time played per day (for Apexis things), timing (Apexis again), and RNJesus. (I saw people bitching it took four weeks to get 15 Tomes of Chaos. I had 15 in two weeks.)

[@acegamestv]

Terestrasz Yes, sorry I was talking about the actual legendary ring. I realize now it can be confusing since you have a ring itself the whole time, but since he was talking about Tomes, I didn't think twice. The early parts are very very quick now though. No RNG involved in that. You can get everything prior to 6.2's questline done in 4 resets easily if you know what you are doing. Then from there it takes 5 weeks average. I've done it in 4 weeks a few times, but also 6 weeks a few times. Anyone saying it takes 4 weeks to get 15 tomes isn't killing all the bosses. I usually get 8~ a week. The difference is, getting 7 a week can mean an entire extra week at the end. The times it took me 6 weeks, I was missing out on just 1 tome.

[@Zachariah2255]

well the legendary shouldn't even be a thing we could all do without it, It really serves no purpose but making you waste a lot of time just blizzard being greedy

[@alladar2010]

Keep making videos Preacher; look forward to each one of your Legion analyses and opinions.

[@borodmislovich8239]

i quit wow around a year ago because wod was just absolute garbage and it makes me very sad to see the game that i loved SO MUCH get destroyed to do the poor decisions of blizz and their pandering to more casual players.

[@acegamestv]

You'll love Legion then! They have added a lot of content paths for dedicated players this expansion, and continue to phase out the casual ones in the scope of character progression. LFR and dungeons you can queue for (heroic or under) have very poor gear compared to their more serious counterparts. WoD was disappointing for sure, but a lot of those poor decisions have been rectified so far with Legion, and the casual paths continue to have more and more distance from the serious ones.

[@borodmislovich8239]

huh, i just watched his other videos on legion so yeah i guess your right and if i can manage to scrounge enough cash ill definitely come back. ive always wished they could just reverse time all the way back to wotlk so everything would be perfect.

[@acegamestv]

lobomuerto11 I agree, there are too many difficulties and LFR has no place in the game any more. But the only difficulty you need to do is Heroic for a few weeks then right into Mythic, so no worries there!

[@JKDDarthSniper]

Preach you are the best. Fair, well rounded and clearly you want what is best for the game. I hope someone at Blizzard watches your analysis videos and takes your input to heart.

[@DayviSchuster]

By no way am I a Blizz fanboy or love what's coming in Legion, in fact I deeply hate some of the retarded PvP changes and what not, BUT I have to say this, and I know a lot of people will disagree with me: "Preach and other people like him are the main reason why the game has been progressively going downhill". Now let me explain what I mean by that. This whole "I want everything simple and easily accessible but at the same time complex and deep" mentality is simply unreasonable. My points: 1) The talent's can only be changed in towns or by items you get from insription: Preach and a lot of people hate this idea, I personally love it, giving the player free talent swaps at will when OOC is like giving them the full talent table and helps ruin class identity more than it already is, I still remember the days of old talent trees and having to use your secondary spec if you wanted a quick "talen swap for trash", I still remember going to class trainers and paying gold(which had a lot of value back in the day) just to be able to change your talent, and you know what? We had fun and we didn't cry about it and how it will affect our raiding. 2) No flying was by far one of my favourite features in WoD, frankly I was kinda disappointed when they added it in later, wanna know what happened for the first time in ages? I saw players in leveling zones waaay past the first few weeks/months of WoD, was able to group up with them socialize and hell even form a few pvp groups that way, after they added flying Draenor is a more of a Ghosttown than it previously was(due to garrisons) people speed leveling through WoD simply complete their objective, fly off, turn in, rinse and repeat. 3) Waaah waah, Me want more content, but not just any content, give me content that I enjoy, cause I matter. To that I can only say:"Well sucks I guess?", as you've stated you're a PvE-er and PvE-ers always get the worst treatment right? Let's ignore the fact that Blizzard removed PvP gear completely making you fuckwits viable to beat pretty decent PvPers, due to ilvl scaling your most important stats, let's also ignore that the last proper pvp update was an arena in MoP(no I am not counting ashran, it has more PvE elements than PvP) and additionally let's ignore that the whole friggin lifespan of wow PvP has been balanced behind PvE, as the latter was their primary focus. So you guys don't get a few dungeons unlocked before you do a couple of quest big whoop, you used to have to do attunement quests for raids but having to do a couple of quests on each alt will surely be the end of us all?

[@beenbeen130]

I don't have the attention span and time to watch all of your videos all of the time but when I do I never regret it :)

[@tomleonard5801]

When you say that alot of people Didn't bother to check out Naxx? Do you mean Vanilla cause the probably would have bothered but it was too hard anyway, it was something rediculous like 4% of all players killed the first boss in naxx vanilla, i would personally like to see that kind of stuff return, although i never played vanilla, at least on live servers, i think the challenging aspect needs to return, otherwise there is no point in getting anything done, it would be too easy, challenge to alot of people brings re-playability and fun.

[@tomleonard5801]

Please say what your opinions are, would like to see, thx :)

As an ex-vanilla player (killed everything up to four horsemen in vanilla naxxramas also), I have to say that "shit getting too easy" is already a thing. And it shows. People are not willing to put an effort into something, because they're used to just roflstomp shit and get what they want. Best example is PUG raids. You wipe once or twice, half the raid leaves. It's pathetic. I'd like to see the challenge level of Vanilla to return, but seeing that the majority of the community acts like a spoiled impatient 5 year old twat, it would kill WoW, because like 95% of the players wouldn't be willing to do stuff that way.

[@tomleonard5801]

Ákos Asztalos Agree with you dude, thanks for sharing your opinion :)

[@troutbum8699]

+Ákos Asztalos I agree. I played the last part of vanilla and all of BC. I raided hard in BC and LOVED jumping around org bank with my T6. You want it? Get on my level. Ppl knew who was good and who wasn't. Nowadays it's ohh poor baby here's some gear. Plus with transmog u don't even know if some one has gear or not without inspecting them. Oh and if u work at that pvp set don't worry 3 months from now u can honor buy it and start all over again.

[@tomleonard5801]

troutbum86 yeah tmog seemed good at first but bad long-term effects

[@niemandvannobody7394]

Oi, Preach, you're getting really good at getting your point across - really enjoyed listening to your arguments here.

[@ShahroozSmith]

Every expansion has it's ups and downs. The more memorable the expansion is, the better yet that's mostly up to the person's tastes. I could list a few of them disappointments from each expansion. Those are *bolded* have a huge impact to the game. Some of these are also based on Community Complaints. Vanilla: *Class Balancing*, Pretentious Quest Traveling across worlds by foot. (There's always that one quest where it makes you go to one place to turn in something only to make you backtrack to where you were last given the quest to actually finish it.), Horde having only Shamans, and Alliance having Paladins. Nobody wants to do Maraudon. TBC: Hellfire Peninsula, Mu'ru, Daily quests that had to make you go travel places, Hellfire Peninsula, Rogues spamming need for Glaives, The Fel Reaver, and lastly Hellfire Peninsula. Wrath: *Overpowered Death Knights*, Naxx revamp (Which removed a lot of old gear and even the removal of the Legendary Medivh Staff questline and item and also The Ashbringer.), *GEARSCORE*, Looking for Dungeon. Cata: Dragon Soul, Heroics made Easy for Namby Pamby Casuals, Vashj'ir's Underwater Physics (Questline was good tho), *LOOKING FOR RAID*, Tol Barad, WHY YOU NO REWORK FIX SILVERMOON?! (Don't answer that I know why, but it still sucks.) MoP: *HIATUS*, Monks trouncing everyone in PvP, Dailies (Before Isle of Thunder), Patch 5.3, Ordos (He wasn't easy or hard.. but very forgettable), Legendary Cape (I mean it looks nice and all.. but seriously that whole questline was just abysmal.), WTF DO YOU MEAN GARROSH IS GETTING A TRIAL!? WoD: *GARRISON*, *PATCH 6.1*, *TWO PATCHES*, *THREE RAIDS*, *ASHRAN* *APEXIS-FUCKING-CRYSTALS!* (You seeing the pattern here? And these are just the problems the Majority have with WoD.)

[@Rookums]

That music intro... half expected it to cut back to Preach massaging Ghostys broad shoulders with bronzing oil

[@mattholsey1479]

nailed it

[@miopicpanda]

first

[@Fatesmaster]

You're right Preach these things aren't a big deal on their own. When you add them all together it starts to become a big deal.

[@slykeren8371]

The whole god damn expansion is a disappointment. xd

[@TheHighborn]

finally sb

[@AlvinEarthworm]

Condemning an expansion before it is even released shows how narrow minded people can be.

[@neodavie]

le epiq comment M8y. 10/10 meemee points!!!11!!!1 ex dee

[@SWCaptainREX]

The expansion isn't even released yet. Let's just wait.

[@TheStrider9492]

While I don't necessarily agree with Bush Wookie I would simply like to add that with the alpha and beta not containing a NDA the expansion almost has been released. Most of the content the average player will participate in has been shown and discussed in detail. I personally have tried to avoid seeing Legion content lately because I do want it to be a fresh experience, but I'm sure a large portion of players have been keeping up to date with most of the Legion news.

[@TheBloodlessOne]

Preach, the frustration of the talent system is extremely relatable. I'm a solo player and I probably changed my talents 5 times in all of Warlords of Draenor, but I've been playing on the beta and the way the talents are situationally divided, I find myself compelled to change them frequently even in an old instance or outdoor content. It definitely needs to be fixed! Also having to use inscription tomes instead of just being able to buy them from a vendor on my mount is far worse lol

[@djaabirs1191]

cata 5 mans were great

[@kalgore4906]

legion is only available in the overwatch loot boxes

[@kbdemonbain]

i normally don't wanna be the player that is all "omg vanilla tbc greatest ever lol l2p noobs you don't know jack" to me i think wrath was the perfect time for casuals and hardcore players and not sure why we have steered so far to one side but it is what it is i agree with preach that why they want to make choices tanks made less impact to "help" the people who aren't so good at tanking instead of doing things to help them get better. i am all for letting the game be more accessible to new players but at a certain point the foot needs to be put down that look if you wanna do this type of content, guess what you need to be good enough that is life. its like someone tanking wearing spirit gear getting mad saying blizzard why can't i do mythic blah blah blah

[@Terestrasz]

I actually really like the fact that you get better gear from Heroic and Mythic difficulties. You know, it's letting you set your own difficulty and rewarding you based upon what you choose. Want cool gear? Go for the gold. Just wanna see the dungeons? Go into LFR - but don't expect to be getting super-cool top-tier weaponry from there. Make it worth my time! I mean I wouldn't bother with mythic if LFR gave the same rewards. It shouldn't.

[@Leopoldshark]

I still find it ridiculous that the devs say they would make the change because of tanks that couldn't do Mythic Archimonde. The whole entire point of having Normal and Heroic modes is so that players who didn't have the skills or time could see the content while players who wanted the challenge could do the heroic modes. This was to address the higher difficulty of some of the "normal mode" raids in BC and the fact that many players could not handle the long progression required to be geared for Sunwell and were stuck in Karazhan for the entirety of BC. But now Heroic isn't enough so they're adding Mythic on top of it. Players with circumstances that prevent them from completing Mythic should be content in completing the Normal modes or Heroic modes as they are still experiencing the content. That is the purpose of the tiered difficulty, not to make serious players experience the content 3 separate times like Diablo 2.

[@keither1982]

i think wotlk was the best for both casual and hardcore but i do like tbc the most for raiding.

[@kbdemonbain]

keith gordon can't fault you there, i do think the better type of raiding was progressing through different raids. not different difficulties of each raid though i think wrath was the best way of that type to avoid early burn out. unlike now where we have 4 difficulties of the same raid tbc was def the more pure hardcore expansion for sure

[@kakalukio]

having better gear is fine to a degree. However, currently the difference are outright ridiculous (it's what, 60ilvl's difference between lfr and mythic?. This screws with scaling, especially if you have a mechanic that is for example crit based, as that mechanic has to work on all ilvls. Thanks to the massive difference in stats you'l either get a situation where the lowly lfr gear never procs the mechanic, or the mythic gear constantly procs it depending on which one you actually balance (unless you build in bad-luck protection, but even then the issue remains) Furthermore, it makes older content a joke (yay a mythic raider in my lfr, he oneshots everything), or results in it being way too hard (boo, no mythic raider so noone can reach over 20k dps and killing the boss takes a century). O, and making lfr gear completly useless like they did in WoD is rather a big f*ck you towards anyone doing it. Having it be lower ilvl and just having it have weaker numbers is at least acceptable/understandable. Not having it have *any* cool tiersets or trinkets removes the most interesting part of gear progression (bigger numbers are fun, some fancy visual proc is much better). The same goes with having all the cool mounts only drop from mythic/high end pvp/high end pet stuff/whatever. It's completly fine that high end level has some rewards that you can only get there, but right now if you're not at the high end of that aspect of the game, chances are you're not going to get anything cooler than mount reskin #478356. The same goes with that weird decision to not show what the hell happens to cho'gall in Highmaul. Theres a briljant setup of a dangerous famous character showing up and starting a giant battle and then he is never mentioned again by anyone ever (unless you finish mythic). Anyway in conclusion, having higher difficulties reward better things is completly fine, but you do have to give the lower difficulties something worthwhile... and I'm getting tired of self proclaimed mythic raiders/elite pvpers (who more often than not, rarely are all that good, they just have enough time to grind their way through it) screwing over everyone else and demanding noone else gets anything worthwhile cuz they want to stroke their ego.. it's just annoying I'm done rambling now :p

[@jiado6893]

I kind of liked the emphasis on gear/trinkets, since knowing what I had to get in order to push my DPS gave me clear goals on what faction I had to become revered with, or what boss I had to try to get to tonight. What was also cool was that I could be sharing an ability with other people in my class, or different classes. This was back in WoD, so maybe it might have reached a new extreme in Legion. I haven't played any of it.

[@glaivinorc9159]

the feels... the feels with the whole legendary.. the memories for farming and getting everything I needed for shadowmourne.. thunderfury.. months and months finally getting them and instantly getting invited to raids because I had that special advantage over lower geared people

[@DoctaSchmieed]

Thank you Preach for making this video, keep it up :)

[@thegalgar]

thanks preach, another well explained and great quality video :) keep it up

[@Yaeshi]

hearing about new legacy videos coming before end of the month = insta hype !!!!!

[@jmkrazer6520]

I agree with your view on tanking. I was feral up until LK and decided to go guardian and have been ever since and I love it and learning and evolving. I like that it takes effort to tank well.

[@squidwardtentacles9825]

Quick question for you +Preach Gaming: With all the changes in gathering professions, is it still viable to take two crafting professions? It seems like gathering professions have become significantly more useful and in-depth, and I am wondering which two professions to level in preparation for Legion. Is it still a good idea to have two crafting professions and use the auction house to obtain the resources needed to craft items? Furthermore, which two professions would you recommend? I want to take engineering for the fun widgets and such, but what second profession would you recommend for Legion?

[@nerdwhitenerd]

Wow dude! I have not watched your vids for a loooong time because i quit WoW but man, i remember you had your 10k subs video and look at you now! You made it man congratz! :)

[@jimmymctavish9468]

good job, and your right if these are the worst things, bring it on im hyped.

[@oscarlundberg4114]

This i such a well done video, great job! Please do the complete review of the enhancement shaman soon!

[@stinkygod1]

well stated video. I personally enjoyed the optimistic viewpoint rather than crying HATE at every opportunity. you have gained a follower today. (even if I have caught the video a month late)

[@EguiulNava]

Off-Topic! But I liked that you did your video standing in front of the camera and not siting. Feels more friendly :)

[@KnightmareGalahad]

I shiver every time I think about what they're doing with legendaries.

[@Cevilman]

I can totally relate to your list here... Great video. Subscribed!

[@KonanTheKup]

Gotta add the reduced camera zoom to one of these features. "We felt like camera zoom gave an advantage against players who were too lazy to copy/paste a console command into their chat once, so instead of implementing a proper zoom function, we're just going to take it away from the game." Thanks Blizzard your logic is truly infallible.

[@maks4285]

Preach, I have to say I love this calmer stance in your videos and simply saying "This is stuff I personally find an issue, this may not be indicative of everyone". Being able to just be a reasonable voice and not someone screaming about gloom and doom in WoW for views is a great thing. Great video.

[@Darkdraven.]

"The bid disappointment is that legion isn't warlords of draenor..." That made me feel shivers down my spine in disguist....

[@thedkboyz]

My first legendary. I'll never forget when I finished the tedious grind of TBT. when that offhand glaive of azzinoth dropped my heart skipped a beat bois

[@CaptainIcebeard]

I like that we get a clear path towards flying now. That's one of the things I praise Legion for.

[@janiheikkonen]

15:21 reminded me immediately of The Twin Blades of Azzinoth in TBC. I remember a rogue standing in town with those on, and I thought that those were just so cool. I knew I was never going to get them (not much of a HC raider), but I for sure didn't cry to Blizzard that I'm entitled to them since I pay a monthly fee. I wish I remembered the rogue's name.

[@steaks14]

The thing I love most about your channel, is how I can disagree so much with stuff you say, and still learn and enjoy your content so much. You're hands down the best wow youtuber (fanboy much here). Looking forward to the overall dpsers and healers analysis, will mean a lot when it comes to choose my main class/spec coming legion! Kuddos

[@aander2112]

It's dumb that Orange Text has replaced Purple Text, but I really like that single items have mini set bonuses. Set bonuses are always one of the most exciting aspects of playing of class.

[@Illandren]

I respect your opinions. Most of these actually make me want to play more. Like you said, Blizzard is unable to create enough content to please everyone. People need to enjoy the game for what it is and what it is becoming. I think that the addition of legendaries breath some life into the game. They modify the play style of your character. It will be interesting to see the final iteration that Blizz releases. Thanks for the video Preach.

[@kevinesco5221]

Cleverly done preacher,you sneaky buss )) If those cgallenges come in legion i will happyest person... nice dissapointments

[@henriknutsson8500]

loved the analog for forced content :D big thumbs up and keep up the good work.

[@bononoz2948]

I main a tank and I love these changes. It makes tanking more than just sitting and taking damage, it feels fresh.

[@YouAreAsleep]

Preach you have to remember that they are trying to meld good things from their games together. I think the artifacts are actually a really good idea! It can get to the point where you need to decide on set bonuses or legendary items like in D3. It really opens up the game and allows for a lot more options for your rotations.

[@Umla80]

Any chance of a video about the healers mr Preach? heard you say doing a video for melee and ranged and you have done one for tanks? :) btw thanks for all the awsome content, and thanks for keeping discussions levelheaded and not just ragey

[@marcusaureliusseverusanton4512]

Understand that this is a themepark game - celebrate if you get any choice at all. Linear, easy to play, clear rewards is the philosophy here.

[@Spookynoises125]

This video more than any others has gotten me hyped for legion as just about every complaint is based in the reasoning of 'it feels bad' not an actual game-play concern, so I'm pretty hyped if this is the 5 worse features.

[@asierra86]

I have to say my favorite parts off playing are leveling questing and working on a achievement. so I love the idea of unlocking flying.

[@j800r]

Preach, regarding tanking, I recognise and appreciate your frustration. Anybody who's spent any moderate amount of time viewing your content will know you are a top class tank anybody would KILL to have on their team. In my experience of the game (albeit less than yours, I'm a Cata baby who took a break just before WoD until a couple of months or so ago and only just experienced their first true raid just last night in fact) that is an extremely rare commodity.. However, it is also my experience that players rush through old content (levelling dungeons etc) like nobody's business (I understand a steady pace is important but nowadays your pause for half a second to scratch your nose and you've suddenly fallen behind.) They feel like they're invincible just because they're in heirlooms or they're experienced and content is too easy for them. However, it is important to recognise that while an old game WoW is constantly being fed new content to keep it fresh and there ARE still new players coming into the fold. How do new players learn their craft best? By DOING. A DPS needs to actually DPS in a scenario where things might matter. If they screw up, they need to discover HOW they screwed up and what they need to watch out for in future. This is more-so important for healers and vitally essential for tanks. So why this long essay that to the less patient person may have appeared to be leading nowhere (I do have a tendency to waffle and rant :P)? With instances (namely PUGs) in the state they're currently in there is nowhere for new tanks to truly learn their craft anymore. Is this the players fault, or blizzards fault? This could be argued forever but the best answer is both. There's no going back now. Blizzard made changes for better or worse and players are the way they are and there's certainly no changing them. So as a result of all this the main point (which maybe Bliz also recognise) is that new tanks should not be punished for not being given the opportunity to truly learn during those 100 levels. You can theory craft till you're blue in the face but in the end it's always real world practice and application that leads to growth and improvement.

[@hobthatnob]

"It's just a pair of boots right" Oh preach, only if you knew what your first leggo would be kek

[@autismunit525]

i love how when theres unskilled tanks the solution isn't practice, learning your class or getting better at the game, instead blizz dumbs down the whole tanking spec for everyone so theres a much lower skill cap

[@joshyman221]

Dude. 2 legacy before end of month. Can't wait, but, good luck! Sounds like a lot of work!

[@ricksingleterry2596]

whats that track called in the beginning?

[@xermy1648]

No.

[@fenderkevin]

Googled like crazy, Anevo - electric heart

[@Gormathius]

Personally I think a good way to do the flying unlock would be a series of Thundering Isles-style scenarios.

[@Brewnelley]

i found it confusing when you argued that legionaries should be something hard to get but then squandered the idea of working to get that badass fishing pole

[@kabrozkabroz]

The new talent book must be what the original talent book author was writing. If you go now during Live you can find him relaxing above the waterfall in Elwynn forest, he's the one who wrote "tome of the clear mind" lol.

[@DrTotenkoph]

One reason why they have made it to where you have to go and do other stuff in order to unlock certain things is because of the fact that people kept complaining about the fact that you could do everything just from your garrison. So they made it to where you cant just hangout inside your class hall all day and instead you have to go out and do stuff and explore the world in order to get stuff done for your class hall.

[@ThePeachgaming]

Also the login screen, usually we get a huge ass dragon roaring and epix scenery, now we get a blackened protos building with some green glowy stuff and 2 dudes guarding it like it has anything of importance except act as an overgrown nightbright. 2 dudes that we are going to see the exact same damn model of millions of times in the game I might add.

[@Shovi_]

Having a prerequisite is a good thing in my opinion. You want flying? Then work for it, don't just expect to have it handed to you.