So if you had to give up your sport bike for a cruiser which one would you get? That Vmax looks pretty sweet. Don't forget we're giving away bikes, so head over to yammienoob.co get entered!
@kurt99294 жыл бұрын
Triumph Rocket Three hahaha
@iota87324 жыл бұрын
HD breakout sounds fun, idk
@mannygsxr4 жыл бұрын
BOSS
@dansmith39334 жыл бұрын
I did I got vrod
@kinnybingman86664 жыл бұрын
Been there done that. I used to race in the 70s and 80s and in them days I would be wanting a crotch rocket. But I quit riding for a while as I got older waiting for my kids to grow up and then went back into bikes in 2007 but I wanted something fast but I didn't want a crotch rocket anymore so I ended up with a M109R and I've been totally pleased with it ever since
@vulcanman644 жыл бұрын
I’m a Harley guy through and through but, the VMAX is king!
@williamwilkin18924 жыл бұрын
I rode the vmax and the diavel. I like diavel ergonomics. Its so comfortable
@briankrasne35184 жыл бұрын
@@williamwilkin1892 vmax is a recliner on 2 wheels and i ride the original
@briankrasne35184 жыл бұрын
Gen 1 vmax never made 170hp. Engine hp was 145 with 125 to the wheel
@MrThuggery4 жыл бұрын
@@williamwilkin1892 Yeah but the Vmax is quicker
@williamwilkin18924 жыл бұрын
@@MrThuggery okay. I'll take the looks and ergonomics.
@jimbobaggans15644 жыл бұрын
V-Max, the final step up.
@DR4WZ4 жыл бұрын
Haven't finished watching yet, but the Yamaha VMAX better be on this list!!!
@kylestewart80494 жыл бұрын
Let me help you out son. 10- harley V-rod( still faster then anything HD makes) 9- yamaha Raider 1900 8- Honda VTX 1800 7-Honda V65 magna ( the OG) 6- Suzuki M109 Boss 5 - Honda Valkyrie or Rune 4- Motus MSTR ( not technically a cruiser but has the best engine of all) 3- Triumph rocket 3 2- Ducati Diavel #1b- VMAX gen1 (dont ever forget it) #1- Vmax Gen 2( incase you forgot)
@DS29514 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with this list. Yams list is dumb. But that's why you shouldn't listen to someone whose only owned two bikes and crashed purely to see if he could learn a lesson
@amjay99634 жыл бұрын
@@DS2951 hmm seems you follow his video closely despite your disapproval.
@nicensleazy90854 жыл бұрын
The gen 1 was a pure hooligans bike!
@Naptownstreetsquid4 жыл бұрын
Much better list. Id probably have raider higher but definitely vmax number 1
@Khal034 жыл бұрын
@@Naptownstreetsquid True dat
@twistieslayer35924 жыл бұрын
Yammie and Friends: "The Fat Bob 114 is the number one muscle cruiser.' FXDR 114: "Am I a Joke to you?"
@yammienoob4 жыл бұрын
TBH yeah 😂
@garrettthompson154 жыл бұрын
Thanks was just about to say that the FXDR 114 is one hell of a bike
Both rides, albeit they are great rides, are a far cry from true muscle.
@soundestmonk4 жыл бұрын
Something about this makes me think all he did was look at the Rocket 3's stat sheet for a brief second then looked at the price tag and then made this video.
@eshwarkonda94954 жыл бұрын
Wes McCauley I totally agree with you!😂
@johnwatson59304 жыл бұрын
I have a rocket 3 GT and it's in last place yeh ok the amount of standard gizmos you get beats the competition especially HD and power and handling it's up there , really up there
@StateOfMind633 жыл бұрын
@@johnwatson5930 I guess it depends what you are rating them on. This is his personal list. For me the Style, heritage, sound and character are just as important as performance, technology and handling. The feelings i get while riding the bikes. For this reason I also rank the Fat Bob at number 1. If we are ranking them on tech, gizmos and performance then obviously the Diavel and Rocket 3 are going to come out on top. In saying that, the Fat Bob handles quite well, just not when compared to a Diavel.
@Dude134504 жыл бұрын
Vmax hands down. It's my dream bike! Granted, I am very biased to V4's. I'm probably gonna pick up a V45 Magna/Saber as a stepping stone to get there. But some day....
@jimanders99713 жыл бұрын
Until you hit some twisties. The vmax fails there.
@Dude134503 жыл бұрын
@@jimanders9971 who says everybody hits the twisties like a bat out of hell? Some people are perfectly fine with cruising and soaking in the views.
@jimanders99713 жыл бұрын
@@Dude13450 ok, enjoy your knitting.
@mudman61563 жыл бұрын
@@jimanders9971 The Triumph will leave the Vmax in the dust in the twisties. But nothing beats a genuine sport bike with the pavement gets squirrelly.
@koho187 Жыл бұрын
@mudman6156 I wouldn't mind running a the rocket in twisties on my 2nd gen. The gen 1 on the other hand is a straight line bike
@drj19674 жыл бұрын
No one is buying this list unless someone was paid to give HD the nod at number 1. Everyone knows nothing beats the Yamaha V-Max!
@rufus13464 жыл бұрын
..I was surprised when he said that the Diavel was the fastest bike on the list. The V-Max is a beast of a bike. I am looking to buy another bike, I already own a Rocket 111 and was thinking about the V-Max. Or go for another GSX1400. I'm a big bloke so need a big bike:) As for HD's....never!
@SteveJohnson-sn9gq4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 Suzuki B King which will smoke all of these. I’m wondering if this isn’t a joke!
@Jason-sz5zv4 жыл бұрын
@@rufus1346 The Vmax is faster than everything on that list from 0 to 60. 2.5 sec. I have a 2016 Vmax. Bought it new. It will exceed your expectations by 200%. The build quality is fantastic. First service is at 41,000 miles.
@rufus13464 жыл бұрын
@@Jason-sz5zv I am sure I read somewhere that the older ones are the fastest. Something to do with a power valve, or something like that:) They are mad bikes, it is one I want some day for my bucket list.........
@burnerjack014 жыл бұрын
@@Jason-sz5zv My older brother had a V-Max. He told me, "If you feel like punching out, get a V-Max. You'll punch out in a hurry."
@richardvasconcelos46834 жыл бұрын
V-MAX IS THE KING OF POWER CRUISERS, COMMON SENSE.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
I very much agree
@anonymouslegion49284 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I love mine. I had a 00 twin cam HD and after that my vmax let me tell you what a huge difference in comfort and power. The first time I hit v boost I couldn’t believe the insane power difference between the two.
@billdrumming4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Fearless1544 жыл бұрын
Depends On what you're seeking in your bike if pure raw power in a straight line is the only thing you want without anything else then yes vmax is the king of the muscle cruisers. But my first impression riding one was horrible the bike handles like at ass. It doesn't want to do anything besides riding straight which doesn't feel very stable doing so too and every turn the steering was heavy and unpleasant i thought i had a flat front tire. Not in the million years, i would get a Vmax as my only bike or everyday bike. It's horrible around town and you feel every pound of the bike if you going at slower speeds which is fatiguing and defeats the purpose of a cruiser in the first place. To appreciate the bike you need very long country without too much hard twistys or going to a drag strip. I prefer something like Diavel which is only slower than the Vmax in .0.4s in 1/4 mile but handles like at actually sportbike and can be ridden on the track and put superbikes to shame if you know what you're doing, While being very comfortable and easy to ride. Pretty much the best all-around muscle cruiser and good at everything and master of nothing type of bike.
@Fearless1544 жыл бұрын
@@bkingtz1 Get vmax test ride and see for yourself the steering is heavy af and overall handling like ass!. No i've never ridden Bking. But i did rode hayabusa which is very close to a bking and handling was very nice specially for the bike it's size. Bking is just a naked version of hayabusa so it must handle just as good.
@rezz5784 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I saw a V Max. I was 14, and saw a parked vehicle, it had two wheels, it had handle bars, but for some reason it took me a few seconds to realise it's a motorbike. I was in awe. I had never stared at anything for so long at that point in my life.
@frankwilliams21983 жыл бұрын
That's crazy the first time I saw the vmax I was 14 in 1985 and i couldn't stop looking at it the bike was so bad ass I didn't know what to make of it I was in shock I think.
@chrisvantassel88672 жыл бұрын
I have an 1985 with 997 original miles and 2019 raven black gen 2. Both are stunning to look at and amazing to ride!
@ZakKypto4 жыл бұрын
I really wish Honda would bring back the Magna. My favorite V4 ever made. Seeing a modern version would be amazing.
@moparbee15234 жыл бұрын
Got an old 1984 V65 Sabre no slouch !
@metalmatrix74 жыл бұрын
The world really needs that bike!
@shivamgupta14124 жыл бұрын
I have a 93' model and its still hard to let her go
@cliftonlewis14204 жыл бұрын
1985 v65 1100s here, Yes please. There is a reason Ducati is making nearly the same engine for its best bikes.
@kevinfox5004 жыл бұрын
@@shivamgupta1412 Same here. Closer to impossible. It and my VTX 1800 sit at the front of the garage, as they get the most miles on them.
@anonymouslegion49284 жыл бұрын
I’m happy with my 03 magna and 94 vmax, I love the v4 power and imo one of the best sounds of a motorcycle. I’m just happy seeing motorcycle riders riding, I don’t care who rides what at least they’re riding 👍🏍
@anonymouslegion49284 жыл бұрын
Mr Slave2thegrind agreed, every time I’m on the magna I can’t find a Harley to compare notes lol.
@Seasniffer19693 жыл бұрын
@David Squibular cheap ain't cool and cool ain't cheap
@johnsdaleparanormalgroup42794 жыл бұрын
VTX 1800. I have a Stateline, I’m disappointed that they don’t have it in an 1800 version.
@aaronbanes66684 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! Thank you! But V-Max is #1. No contest.
@88tcoupe4 жыл бұрын
Great list and video, but everything I've read and watched says the VMAX is faster than the Ducati. At least in acceleration.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
Every test you watch shows the vmax much faster. And about the same high end wen the speedo is unlocked on the vmax
@BigUriel4 жыл бұрын
@@seanbutler2291 The Diavel got a new engine a couple years ago. They're pretty much even on acceleration, maybe a bit more top speed on the Vmax.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
@@BigUriel No same engine, they upped the CC's by like 50. They even say on their site. Biggest difference is reworked chassis, and chain rather than belt drive. And if u compare the old and current it's like a 3 hp difference. And the max was beating it by a decent amount. If anything, no the diavel would be better on high-end performance. And pretty much always lose light to light or in 1/4 mile. I'd be willing to bet that it's still not as fast as max. Keep in mind during upgrade time, the diavel runs 13:0:1. And the Vmax is running 11:3:1. On compression ratio. That means basically, the max is faster than the diavel stock. And not working as hard for it either. Youll get far more from your upgrades on a max
@mark.maller9673 жыл бұрын
I have the devil and have ridden the Vmax to be honest at this level of holy shit it's alot more about the rider than the bike.
@jeremiah1st3 жыл бұрын
Acceleration is the one and only criterium to call a cruiser a power cruiser or muscle bike and the first gen V Max is still King....second gen has no equal and is untouchable. So place 1 and two should always go to Yamaha as long as no other bike is faster on the quarter mile.
@HP.Customs4 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep my V-Max thank you, love that bike. I also have the Raider, it’s ok but I like it.
@aweba254 жыл бұрын
The Vmax is my next purchase. The 1900cc Roadliner and the raider are not bad either.
@ryanthornell11173 жыл бұрын
You are where I want to be in life lol I have the Raider and I love that bike one day I want to get a Vmax there both the greatest bikes in my opinion I couldn't pick between them
@Abubakar-wn3dq4 жыл бұрын
I’ll be happy to have a 125cc
@danielpassarelli41764 жыл бұрын
That Drunk Guy my first bike used to be my brothers! It was a hyosung rx125! It was past on to me when I was 12! Learned to ride it off road only and after 4 years when I could finally get my license I took all my savings from birthdays and worked selling blackberry and iphone cases in school and family friends and bought myself a 2005 honda cb500f! I loved the bike and now I ride a 2016 kawasaki versys 1000 and a 2008 Harley Davidson Rocker C! I want my next bike to be a new BMW S1000XR. Slowly going for nicer bike, just got to work your way up
@keithsmith98894 жыл бұрын
@@danielpassarelli4176 seriously you wont for more than about 2 days
@keithhgallop72324 жыл бұрын
@@keithsmith9889 My buddy has a Grom and he loves that lil fucker! But I got a 883 and its super hilarious to see a grom try to race...lmfao
@burnerjack014 жыл бұрын
Diff'rent spokes for diff'rent blokes. Me? I love the thrill of my 1600 BMW. But hey, if you like what you've got, you're good.
@tribalman96684 жыл бұрын
It is always humbling when reminded how fortunate we are for the luxuries we enjoy, thank you!
@keithsmith98894 жыл бұрын
In a quarter mile vmax will destroy everything on that list. That v4 low end tourqe and the v boost absolutely love my gen 1 vmax
@HP.Customs4 жыл бұрын
Have a 04 and a 06 V-Max and love them.
@burnerjack014 жыл бұрын
Cool bike but I hear it corners like a clipper ship. Fast is great, there is no doubt. But a drag bike on the street sounds like it's lacking in the other departments. But always kinda wanted one anyway.
@anandamodi10954 жыл бұрын
Well V max ....is the legend , was the legend , will be the legend
@timking74964 жыл бұрын
Hmmm super V Max
@cosef44914 жыл бұрын
My top Muscle cruisers STILL in production would be; 1.) The Yamaha Vmax 1700 2.) Triumph Rocket 3 3. Ducati Diavel 4.) Suzuki M109 5.) Indian Scout An air cooled and/or oil cooled motorcycle would never make my list. If a manufacturer doesn’t want to design a modern liquid cooled engine with smooth reliable performance straight from the factory it shouldn’t imo be compared to brands that do.
@user-jd3pb2zl8v2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Except… Vrod is liquid cooled should be at least top 3 on your list.
@exploranator2 жыл бұрын
You mean like the original GSX1100R?
@chrisludwig97832 жыл бұрын
good order!
@jefeestolito69524 жыл бұрын
Let the yam back on. Two harleys, a suzuki, and a victory? You lost your cred. there are ONLY 3 bruisers: VMax, Rocket, and Diavel. I’ve owned the latter two for 5+ years and ridden against harleys probably 50+ times. Never even ever close to the speed from a harley. fast FOR a harley maybe. So grab your bagger and flip flops all you want but 2 harleys atop the bruiser list is a mistake. Good try though.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
Agreed I own a gen 1 and gen 2 vmax. And I feel like my 750 magna deserves to be on this list more than the fat Bob.
@TheGrayWolf114 жыл бұрын
I’ve got to agree. My Rocket III leaves my brother-in-laws Harley in the dust.
@michaelpearson25684 жыл бұрын
What alternate reality are we in where 2 Harley's are "better" muscle cruisers than a Diavel?? 100% agree
@TheGrayWolf114 жыл бұрын
Michael Pearson Never heard of the Diavel before this video, but it looks to be a nice bike. Much nicer than Harley-Davidson
@mattbroussard74094 жыл бұрын
Sorry but based on feelings and bias I 100% agree with this list!! LOL! Seriously though I would have put the Diavel at #1, but you have to admit there's just something about that Fat Bob styling that is just so modern and muscular. It has to be the best styled muscle cruiser on the list for sure.
@gkue60043 жыл бұрын
Love my 2014 Valkyrie, leaves most Harleys a the light, handles well and is bulletproof
@Tearnofear3 жыл бұрын
a man with culture i see :D
@chadgriep6973 жыл бұрын
Also love my '14 Valkyrie. She will rip your hands of the bars 0-60, and then you can put 200 miles on her fill up and feel like you can do another 200. Just an absolutely perfect bike...for me.
@Rover43874 жыл бұрын
Spite is the man!! nice job pal. I cant believe the V-Max is so low on the list!
@remz95464 жыл бұрын
Probably every time Yammie see a comment that implies the TURBO BUSA is probably like: -Ah, I teached them well.
@yammienoob4 жыл бұрын
That is because I have. 😉
@fxflotterer4 жыл бұрын
@Crusader General KILLED :D
@dukeviper83854 жыл бұрын
I never realized how squeeky yammie sounded till this video. Can u be the one to make videos on this channel from now on?
@NFL19764 жыл бұрын
Triumph Rocket III, the new standard for the term Cruiser, hands down, both powerful and refined at the same time. Suzuki? Yo Yammie, the 80's wants their Katana back, and the rest of the Japanese Bikes!
@jesusdavidburgosgarcia30554 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see the Valkyrie, but still happy to see some cruiser love in the channel
@TheGrayWolf114 жыл бұрын
Valkyries are a nice bike.
@MikeeLeeLing01184 жыл бұрын
6 out of 6 exhaust Valkyrie is heaven to my ears! ❤️
@Debonair.Aristocrat4 жыл бұрын
The Valk is too sophisticated and polite and should never be considered "muscle". I love my Valk and like to think I'm enjoying the road with a magnificent Norse beauty, not riding on the back of John Cena or "The Rock". Eww!
@livefortwowheels4 жыл бұрын
I love my 2014 Valkyrie 💪
@Lemieuleur4 жыл бұрын
And the VTX1800 wich was one of the first muscle cruisers...
@Engineerofpain4 жыл бұрын
Lmao the Vmax is faster than the Ducati and the Vrod. Hell i think the older vmax is still faster than the vrod...
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
It is, by a solid .5 secs in the 1/4 mile. Obviously depending on the rider
@HP.Customs4 жыл бұрын
Older V-Max is nice if you can keep the gears in the trans.
@jimeagle19523 жыл бұрын
I believe my 2006 Vmax is faster than the Ducati. The Vrod is actually number 6 at best of your 7. And the VMAX came out in 2009 not 7.
@user-se5zz3yj9c4 жыл бұрын
VMax would be my choice....corners like riding a sawhorse....but in a straight shot.....the ‘86 leaves even the newer versions “wanting” imo...great bike...was surprised to see your #1....much respect 👊🇺🇸👊
@Antimatter_Elli3 жыл бұрын
The 2020 VMAX is rated at 200hp and stops and corners unlike the old one.
@jeremiah1st3 жыл бұрын
Corners perfectly with a little drift.
@tgbaca07072 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain to me how the Ducati Diavel is a cruiser? I’m new to the world of bikes and according to Yam’s videos I’m the research guy so I’ve spent the last week straight researching bikes with every second of my spare time. So I’m new, but not clueless. Someone please explain how this bike is a cruiser?? It has naked written all over it to me? Is it just the mid or forward controls (if it even has both options)? Nothing about that bike says cruiser to me. Obviously cruiser breaks down into a few more categories but even then, in no way does this bike “look” like any kind of cruiser. You can literally see pieces of the frame even often times painted to pop out. I’m totally stumped on how this thing is considered a “cruiser” and especially how that’s so widely accepted and not contested. I haven’t ridden my first bike yet either so does it have to do with the way you sit on it more so than the looks?
@loxchopper2 жыл бұрын
It’s not. It’s a naked. So many people get this wrong. The Xdiavel however is considered a cruiser
@bravo98904 жыл бұрын
I love my scout bobber! I think with exhaust and intake your about 115 hp 105 tq on a bike that barely weighs 500 lbs. And the sheer badass styling is the real breadwinner about it.
@mr.solitude33524 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Yammie, but a cruiser isn't a cruiser if your foot peg position is under your butt or behind it (creating an acute angle at your knees). Cruisers, in my lexicon, require that your feet be in front of your butt (creating an obtuse angle at your knees). So some of your selections don't qualify as cruisers to me. Having said that, I owned a couple of power cruisers (what they were called when they were in production) that should've made your list, if it included past models: the mighty Honda Valkyrie. Now own a Honda VTX1800, which is also a torque monster. Thanks for doin' what you do, bra.
@camerontait94574 жыл бұрын
@Cj Wouldn't do that to a cbr1000rr but for a lot of UJM's you could put forward pegs on them and they'd make great pseudo-cruisers. In my book though, pure cruisers are either standard/forward controls (never rear), and generate peak torque in the lower half of their rev range. The last part is the most important because you're not really cruising if you have to hammer it to get all your power.
@ntdscherer4 жыл бұрын
That was Spite, not Yammie.
@mr.solitude33524 жыл бұрын
@Cj The ERGONOMICS of the rider determine the genre of a bike. I'm am ergo freak, not a foot freak. I stand by that criteria.
@conradmccall58204 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right, I dont even consider the diavel or vmax a true muscle cruiser. I use to own a vtx 1800 and it's a badass bike. Enjoy it man! It will leave 600's till about 80mph!
@stevewhite62524 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have a 2009 VMAX. It is definitely not a cruiser by the very criteria that you mention. It is a naked muscle bike. The foot position is not an arbitrary choice. Cruisers are feet-forward because the frame has been designed to keep the seat very low so that the rider can put his feet flat on the ground at a stop. This results in the foot controls having to be placed forward otherwise the rider's knees would be practically at chest-level with a standard foot position. The VMAX controls are in what used to be called the standard position with the feet behind the knees and the rider leaning slightly forward into the handlebars. This provides the best compromise between handling and comfort.
@johnmack29314 жыл бұрын
VMAX all the way
@Sandman_Benny4 жыл бұрын
Definetly appreciate the list. I've owned a 2011 Victory Hammer (1700cc 250mm rear tire monster) that is a blast. Now I own a 2013 Yamaha Raider 1900 with a 245mm rear tire and it tears my arms off everytime. Really sad i didnt see either in your list. But who knows beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I respect that.
@dimitripelser95774 жыл бұрын
dammit, looked up the bikes you mentioned...now I cant choose... all works of at indeed...
@edsweitzer95533 жыл бұрын
The raider could use another gear unlike the hammer that barley holds its top gear. Love the sound of both of these animals
@Sandman_Benny3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitripelser9577 having owned both...the hammer is pretty aggressive in a bad way compared to the Raider. The hammer feels like a heavy wannabe sport bike. The Raider feels like it doesn't give a fuck haha.
@abdussamiali21664 жыл бұрын
You aren't that bad, but nothing can replace the Papa Yam
@medpreventivabrasil4 жыл бұрын
Man I'm in love with the new rocket 3...
@ahaymaker5354 жыл бұрын
Aww no Yamaha warrior or raider but you got the vmax so can't complain to much
@chottabeamm4 жыл бұрын
His voice suits cruiser themed video than yammie's because it is, you know, heavier. While papa yam's voice reminds me more of 600cc gsx
@migthulhu2 жыл бұрын
my 2011 Fat Bob is a jack of all trades; forward pegs but has capacity to switch out to floor boards, added bags, removable backrest, dual disks up front, massive tires same size as the Road King, 96-in motor and six speed gets me to around 110 mph and does it right away, it just needed a swap on the handlebars to make it more comfortable for the long rides. only takes about 40 minutes to race from ABQ to Santa Fe, or can take a nice meandering ride with a little mama resting comfortable at your back, saddle bags stocked with a picnic. I'm happy with a strong all around bike.
@darinmatthews4264 жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha Raider and I wouldn’t trade it for anything on this list, sure some are faster but the raider is a torque beast for hauling my 340 pound ass around, very comfortable for tall riders, smooth as glass, a lot better looking than anything on the list and the handling is amazing for being 700+ pounds.
@keithrulong61722 жыл бұрын
I have s Raider too. Totally Bad Ass Bike! Biggest engine Yamaha makes in what looks like a Custom cruiser/chopper.
@808smycarbreaks_94 жыл бұрын
Dude, dude, we got the same taste in bikes and cars!
@mikemccormick81154 жыл бұрын
Vmax, then diavel, then rocket 3, then 109, then maybe maybe a Harley. Is this a Harley commercial?
@StateOfMind633 жыл бұрын
If you are taking into account style as well as performance then Harley Wins hands down imo. The Fat Bob might not be the fastest or the best handling on the list but for me it wins as an overal package.
@mikemccormick81153 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfMind63 I don’t like to rag on another mans bike but Harley has never been known for performance, in acceleration or handling. I’ve had many bikes including two Harleys. Old air cooled, push rod, heavy steel frame technology can’t run with modern performance. Compare an Indian Scout with a Sportster, eg..There’s no comparison in performance there really. But it’s enough power and handling for you so that’s fine. I give you the style though. But when everyone has the same style, how is it style anymore? Running with the herd is what Harley used to not stand for, and then Harley became popular. But enjoy your slow heavy STYLISH bike. 🙂
@StateOfMind633 жыл бұрын
@@mikemccormick8115 The 2018 softtails are nothing like the old Dynas though. They dont vibrate anymore, they handle far better too and once you get going you hardly feel the weight. The Fat Bob is definitely not slow and this is coming from a former sports bike rider. It's not the fastest bike i've ridden but its plenty fast enough for its purpose. You're right about the Indian Scouts being superior to Sportsters but i definitely still prefer the New Fat Bob, its much torqier and much comfier.
@wolfy54714 жыл бұрын
From a classic Harley guy, thanks for showing real Harleys. Your a good man, unlike Yammie lol.
@haris5254 жыл бұрын
Triumph rocket 3 TFC edition has 180hp. I am sure you can unlock a lot more performance from the rocket 3
@BigUriel4 жыл бұрын
I think theoretically the most you'd ever see from that engine is around 200hp, but with some serious mods and by sacrificing a lot of that low end torque. It doesn't make a lot of power because it can't rev very high. It's essentially a car engine, you'll just never get it revving to 10k and making 150hp/l.
@tomwaschesczio57104 жыл бұрын
CRUISERS!!! Spite you are the man. Really so you sound so laid back and calm its exactly the voice one expects from someone who is into cruising. Keep up the good work team yam.
@coleleukuma5604 жыл бұрын
Reverse the order of the list! And than its a good video....
@kylestewart80494 жыл бұрын
Cole Leukuma : I was thinking the same thing.
@vikramkoodoye14184 жыл бұрын
Then?
@randomnoise633 жыл бұрын
I have 3 Vmax's and I got to agree, love riding it full power and that rush of speed, is awesome, its hard to let go, much less give up. Damn, its so smooth and feels right, but it makes me smile!!! lol..They are right, fast as hell and fun!!
@phoenix43154 жыл бұрын
I've had my vrod muscle for 9 years and every ride is as BA as the first. Thanks Spite for representing the cruisers. Also, Spite, you need a clever rhyme name.
@realdeal36114 жыл бұрын
And i juat rode the 2017 Vmax and what a beast that bike is .It pulls so.damn hard its almost scary to.hold it open for any long period of time
@hotchihuahua15463 жыл бұрын
There are two for me , the V-Max and the Rocket Three ! The others I would put in a category of their own ! The V Max first only because it’s been around longer and will smoke the Rocket three in a drag race but not on a low speed roll on it top gear ! I have driven both and the Rocket Three handles much better !
@arlanwade32684 жыл бұрын
It depends on what's most important on your checklist: For INSANE power, comfort & supreme reliability, the 2 gen. V-MAX is unbeatable. For an air-cooled V-Twin that puts the Fat Bob to absolute SHAME for engineering & BADASS asthetics, I'd get a Victory Hammer. For a liquid-cooled Big Twin the SUZUKI M109R B.O.S.S.. For a unique looking torque monster I'd go with the new Rocket 3. For a Cruiser/Super Sport, the Diavel. But there's only one Muscle Cruiser (or any bike really) that gave me goosebumps just looking at it which meets my checklist- 1) liquid-cooled 2) plenty of power 3) badass beautiful 4) not high maintenance or over expensive parts 5) Unique as opposed to common 6) American V-Twin- #1; the HD V-ROD MUSCLE is KING in my cycle world!
@markmcivor88534 жыл бұрын
Vmax is faster than duc diablo according to.... everyone..lol . Never herd anyone challenge that .
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
It's the fastest bike on this list
@blakefarinas61704 жыл бұрын
@@seanbutler2291 because the HP is higher? It runs a 12 second 1/4 mile where as the rocket 3 runs 10's
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
@@blakefarinas6170 lmfao!!!! You think the vmax runs 12s?????? Wow buddy. Nice. Gen 1 ran high 10s low 11s in 1985 stock. Gen 2 runs high 9s low 10s stock. And the last model rocket 3 is lucky to get mid 11s, this new one will probably be running high 10s maybe low 10s with a tune, and thats by professional riders, remember even the new model rocket 3 is over 700lbs.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
@@blakefarinas6170 or were you referring to the diavel? Which in stock form does low to mid 10s in the 1/4 mile. And again the last rocket 3 model did mid 11s. And this new one probably midhigh 10s low 11s
@blakefarinas61704 жыл бұрын
@@seanbutler2291 actually the new rocket 3R is 650lbs the rocket 3GT is 653 and the rocket 3tfc is 636lbs
@alexbaskov4 жыл бұрын
tbh when i think about "power cruiser" the only 2 which come to my mind are Yamaha V-MAX and Ducati XDiavel. everything else is rubbish) Oh y, dat Harley @ 10:30 looks very cool actually. finally something modern looking, not avg cruiser for the guys who are in their late sixties.
@anwarfraser61574 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I personally cant stand the excessive use of chrome, antiquated head/signal lights and dinosaur anolog tach/speedometer that they slap on everything. Its quite unfortunate that i prefer foot forward controls. Literally the only reason why i walked away from the vmax. If kawasaki could release a vulcan S with a h2 engine and digital dash id be a happy camper. Had a 08 Meanstreak and was looking to replace it. The closest thing to it was a m109 and i felt like it was missing something. Didn't seem like a upgrade. Just more of the same. Modern amenities or bust.
@djb73024 жыл бұрын
I had a Diavel. I now have a Rocket 3, and I can absolutely confirm it is not rubbish. It’s absolutely epic.
@jeffmellow3 жыл бұрын
Close. Gen 1 V-Max & gen 2 VMax!
@StateOfMind633 жыл бұрын
I dont care how well it handles, I cant get past the looks of the Diavel. I think its an ugly bike. Doesn't know if it wants to be a cruiser or a sport bike.
@donkndave78114 жыл бұрын
Magna V65 the Sabre V65. Missed these two!
@geraldholtzclaw17614 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, but unfortunately they are no longer in production.
@johnathandk421344 жыл бұрын
yamaha raider yamaha warrior honda vtx 1800 honda valkyrie/rune honda magna kawasaki mean streak several that were left out!
@N3ilCrox4 жыл бұрын
Hmm I still like the F6C Valkyrie.
@darksky054 жыл бұрын
N3il Crox i got a 1998
@kylestewart80494 жыл бұрын
Ya. This list was VIOD when he didnt have a Valkyrie on it. Gen1 or Gen 2.
@livefortwowheels4 жыл бұрын
Yeah a second gen Valk should’ve been in that list!.....
@kevinfox5004 жыл бұрын
@@livefortwowheels Even a 1st gen would have been worthy. More so than the Harleys.
@BUGBYTE_ Жыл бұрын
My first real bike was a 85 honda v65 magna. Kinda fits the muscle bike category. It had more power than the honda helix i upgraded from.
@triumphlover74554 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaah... if the Vmax 1700 isn't at the top of your list, there is no list. Mkay? Thanks for playin'.
@richardvasconcelos46834 жыл бұрын
MY FELLOW,MOTORCYCLE RIDER'S,WITH RESPECT TO ALL,OVER MANY YEARS I OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES NOW & ALSO OF DIFFERENT STYLES & CATAGORIES,WHEN I MOUNT MY V-MAX & TURN THAT THROTTLE,MANY THING'S COURSE THRU MY MIND,HOW DO I CONTROL SUCH A MAD BEAST,IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH,I'M MY FLYING,I LOVE IT.THANK YOU ALL, KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN,SPAZZ.
@blocksopiff4 жыл бұрын
So can we get a Harley in the next giveaway?
@bobaranda22744 жыл бұрын
My vote on this list is the Ducati Diavel. For some reason my BMW K1200R never falls under consideration with it's 0-60 in 2.6 sec. 163 HP, 10.5sec 1/4mile and 173mph tip speed. At least 200mile range. And it is reliable. Oh well, I'll keep it and keep on searching for a better (IMHO) power cruiser.
@faustin2894 жыл бұрын
_"Don't worry about HP, you are on a Harley!"_ Haha. Nice!
@thevtadventure10624 жыл бұрын
I love making old harley guys look bad on my XR1200...they always ask "is that a Harley?!"
@pge71044 жыл бұрын
Obviously you have not ridden a Rocket 3. It has more than enough hp and the torque is insane. I own one and it is in a class of its own
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
Ehhhhhh it's nice, with plenty of room for mods, granted steep price for all mods. But every reviewer so far say the diavel seems faster, and the vmax is decisively faster than the diavel, that right there puts it at like #3 in my mind, which is a significant improvement.
@thewindthatshakesbar4 жыл бұрын
I got into bikes dreaming of getting a naked bike, a fast and agile monster of a bike. But then I rode a Suzuki Boulevard 650cc and a Honda rebel 500 during my motorcycle course and I just fell in love with the feeling of it. I have been riding my 1999 Honda Magna for a year now and although it's 'only' a 750cc, it is an absolute beast of a V4 and I couldn't be happier. Cruisers are a lot of fun and I haven't looked back ever since.
@wajahatali27174 жыл бұрын
Vmax is the fastest bike on the list it beats the ducati
@blakefarinas61704 жыл бұрын
Rocket 3 beats both of them. J/S
@wajahatali27174 жыл бұрын
@@blakefarinas6170 no it dosnt
@glickmpb2 жыл бұрын
I had a M109R and currently ride a 2018 VMax. The 2 motorcycles arent even in the same class. At low speed (under 100mph), they are kind of similar, but at high speed the VMax turns into a sport bike. I am MUCH happier with the VMax.
@robertstimmel11004 жыл бұрын
I am in love with the Bonneville bobber. It would be close to the least powerful bike on this list, but also would probably weigh the least. Around 80 hp and 80 foot pounds and about 500 pounds, but it is a real head turner and fast enough to have a lot of fun
@annguyennguyen3507 Жыл бұрын
Me may
@Hellhammerhand4 жыл бұрын
Not gunna lie nearly spilt my coffee when he said number 1 was the Fat bob. Im by no means a wealthy guy or a Harely fan boy for that matter. But when they unveiled it in late 2017 i went out of my way to get one, ended up getting 1 of the first 7 Harely Davidson Fat bobs to arrive into Scotland. Highly recommend it, I commute on it Monday through Sunday in all weathers in both seasons here in Scotland Winter and June. Im never getting rid of it.
@AutoExpectations4 жыл бұрын
Hellhammerhand I did the exact same I dropped my phone, didn’t even expect it on the list. Got mine brand new in 19, I will die with it.
@edsweitzer95533 жыл бұрын
Like you said, they're your favorites. The triumph would rule the roost if they used its potential. The Ducati does seem impressive. The Suzuki needs to be revised and ktm can probably come in here. Stock the v max has to be king though the rocket has more room for potential than the v max... its using everything it has and the triumph has another hundred horse lying dormant that can be accessed fairly easily.
@Charlies_Riding_Adventures4 жыл бұрын
I love my Honda VTX1800. It’s a torque beast !!
@danielpassarelli41764 жыл бұрын
My brother used to have a 2011 Diavel Carbon with complete termignoni exhaust and a remap! That thing was a death trap😂 I’ve never ridden another bike like that. It made my balls crawl into my stomach lol
@jeremiah1st3 жыл бұрын
My balls stay home when I ride my VMax.......
@binuab15653 жыл бұрын
Story of my life.. got to test ride Fat Bob and loved it… NO test rides for Vmax in my part of the world and managed to ride one a week later from a guy who had bought it previously.. and was blown away.. went back to HD to test ride Fat Bob one more time same day.. i felt it was too slow and just felt it was too light.. and then went and booked a VMAX right after that.. it was a no brainer.. they were priced similarly in 2018.. 3.5 yrs after.. Vmax biggest issue was fuel tank and not the safest feeling at the corners.. but it just feels great revving that throttle.. so VMAX all the way between them.
@darlingdeer21444 жыл бұрын
I will run anything on this list in a 1/8 mile with my Vmax. Anytime.
@kactuszakk42033 жыл бұрын
Me too with my 2015 Vmax
@joemartin36994 жыл бұрын
M109R best muscle cruiser. Actually my first . I purchased it at 58 .I was totally blown away by how an torque. Looks everything about the bike said I'm the man.
@ED-ku4ey4 жыл бұрын
Yammie you most pics of burnouts were of the yamaha warrior 1700 yet not on the list come on my dude lmao
@timLoder4 жыл бұрын
I ride a warrior they are awesome!
@TheGamersRace4 жыл бұрын
You gave the Gen1 power specs for the vmax (85-06) the gen2 vmax (07-today) puts down 200hp and 166.8 NM of tq, or about 123ft lbs. Its wet weight is 683 lbs. Its an awesome bike. 😉
@stevewhite62524 жыл бұрын
In addition to the other requirements of a muscle bike the first thing that a muscle bike needs to have is MUSCLE (HP) and plenty of it. In 2020 I would think that a quarter mile time at least in the 10s is a requirement. That really restricts this category to currently only 3 bikes: the VMAX, the Diavel, and the Rocket 3. Sport bikes don't fall into this category because they are ... sport bikes. We applied the same criteria for muscle cars back in the 1960s. Unless the car could get into the low 14s for a quarter mile time then it wasn't a muscle car.
@benjaminofuasia92362 жыл бұрын
My suburban does low 14s
@littleshopofelectrons4014 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminofuasia9236 Not in the 1960s. The requirements for a muscle car would be very different today.
@lonestarcalifornia3 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 2018 Fat Bob 107 yesterday and absolutely love it
@mikelovell754 жыл бұрын
VMax number four?! Oh well. He said lucky to get 100 miles a tank. Man I’m lucky to get 70. Rocket 3 is bad ass too. That also should be higher.
@ivanpeel735 Жыл бұрын
I've owned 2 VRODS 1 street rod VRSCR and then a night rod VRSCD both were 2006, I would smoke my son's ninja 636 until 118 mph. I liked them both maintenance was low & easy, now I own a 15 Diavel Carbon and what an awesome bike, night & day difference Harley could never compete, more comfortable to ride & throw around on the twisty roads and LOTS OF POWER.
@EMAN017864 жыл бұрын
Best sport touring motorcycles?
@timsretirementjourney83234 жыл бұрын
This is one that would interest me.
@NudaMan4 жыл бұрын
VFR800 better be in there lol
@robinmaurer26454 жыл бұрын
FZ1 Fazer, h2, intersector, seca II, and the new ninji
@dmeier0074 жыл бұрын
Kawi H2 SX. Period.
@dundonrl4 жыл бұрын
K1600 GT..nuff said..
@darlingdeer21444 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Vmax. Check your specs.
@felixhochsam4 жыл бұрын
Why the Diavel and not the Xdiavel, also why the Fat Bob and not the Breakout? 🤔
@derekheckley94474 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is just paid for advertising, the whole list is laughable.
@StateOfMind633 жыл бұрын
Probably because the Fat Bob handles much better with its raked in, upside down forks.
@StateOfMind633 жыл бұрын
@@derekheckley9447 It's his personal opinion. The list can be whatever he likes. It also depends entirely what you are ranking the bikes on.
@Namikuz14 жыл бұрын
My '05 Rocket with a long Super Trapped Predator header, Ramair intake, tune, Triumph full windshield, Triumph Long haul gel seat and backrest, Corbin Beatle bags, triumph rear rack, Kuryakin mirrors, foot boards, and pegs, replaced my sport bikes and my 1100cc drag bike. No it doesn't accelerate like the drag bike BUT I haven't been pulled on by much, it doesn't carve up canyons like the SV1K or esspessially the MuZ Skorpion Club Cup. BUT it'll hang with most street riders on their generic crotch rockets and drag pegs all day. I like it... 41 years racing and riding!!!.
@jhernandez777944 жыл бұрын
9:32 @ Yamaha Roadstar Warrior. Has to be one of top 5 pound for pound lightest power cruiser. Not fast at 80hp and 100ft lbs of tq but an overall top ten quickest cruisers I bet. Only at a mere 650lbs wet weight stock. Remove stock exhaust and few tasteful aesthic and performance mods and you have a 635-640lb bike with over 100lbs of tq and 90+hp.
@ADC595204 жыл бұрын
This ranking is ridiculous. Have you tried a 2020 rocket 3?
@RX-78-2whitedevil4 жыл бұрын
The information in the video is flawed at best when it comes to just about every point made in comparison of these bikes. Also the v max gen 2 is definitely faster than the diavel. I have extensively rode 5 of the 7 bikes on this list (fat bob and rocket 3 gen 2 I have not) and with having a gen 1 and gen 2 v max in my garage I would even put the gen 1 max against most of these bikes in terms of speed, acceleration and power.
@RX-78-2whitedevil4 жыл бұрын
In hindsight this video could be a well orchestrated troll but I'm also more inclined to believe that its genuine.
@AutoExpectations4 жыл бұрын
I have the 114 fatbob, he is correct on the acceleration, it’s almost stupid quick, but 3rd gear it’s nothing special.
@RX-78-2whitedevil4 жыл бұрын
I should have added that I have rode a stock fxdr 114 and I will say for a v twin it's fairly quick but it still will be left behind by the rocket, max and diavel.
@AutoExpectations4 жыл бұрын
Shea Samuelson I dunno about left behind. Obvious so many variables, rider, weight, gas etc etc, but the 114 is very overlooked on power with the right upgrades that’s hands down best engine Harley has.
@williamdobbins31314 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit biased, but I owned a 2002 Warrior. Great handling, grip, and power. And yes, I still ride Yamaha today, an FZ-1.
@JCook-dx5pf4 жыл бұрын
Gotta chime in here. The Rocket's engine is the biggest production motorcycle engine, not just the biggest triple. Also, you didn't mention the V-Max's descendant the MT-01. A proper suicide machine!
@kkklll6944 жыл бұрын
Just one thing boss hoss
@JCook-dx5pf4 жыл бұрын
@@kkklll694 that's a Chevy car engine in a motorcycle frame, not a motorcycle engine. The Lazareth also uses a Maserati engine, and the Tomahawk was a concept by Dodge with a V10 Viper mill. There's even a crazy dude in Australia (where else)?) who made a single cylinder, 5-liter motorbike. But that's a one-off and not production.
@kkklll6944 жыл бұрын
@@JCook-dx5pf i do know its a corvette engine but still they were production bikes
@JCook-dx5pf4 жыл бұрын
@@kkklll694 it's a production bike using a car engine. It's not a production motorcycle engine. There are bigger bikes than the Rocket, even bigger production bikes. But they all use engines that are either custom-built, or not originally built for a motorcycle
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
The mt01 is not it's decendant, there is nothing similar between them other than a v configured motor.
@jbassbike11114 жыл бұрын
I traded in my S1000R for a Fat Bob 114. Put a cam, exhaust, tune and better tires on it and it is such a blast to ride. Will it hang with sport bikes? Nope, but it always brings a smile when I pin the throttle coming out of corners. It’s a different experience that has less of a chance of me losing my license, ha. The BMW was far too capable of that.
@MoeOthman4 жыл бұрын
*could you do a review on the 2020 kawasaki 650?*
@rallynfernandes89704 жыл бұрын
I have one. Get it. Don't need to think too much. It's simple, it handles well and is deceptively quick.
@drewmoskal98783 жыл бұрын
2021 here, get it
@andypants10003 жыл бұрын
Illuminati bike.
@leonardocalixtoantunes79033 жыл бұрын
Where is the Valkyrie or Rune?
@phantommodding10254 жыл бұрын
He forgot the Yamaha stratoliner/roadliner/raider, Yamaha Stryker, and the Honda VtX 1800, Vulcan 1600 meanstreak, which all run harder and better
@mr.solitude33524 жыл бұрын
And they are legitimate cruisers to boot, ergonomically speaking. LOVE the VTX1800.
@jsgirard114 жыл бұрын
Also, the Yamaha Warrior 1700
@malinkiireed62874 жыл бұрын
Love the stryker, it's fun and goes and I always get props on the great look.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
Out of the bikes u just mentioned, only the raider and vtx can do 1/4 miles somewhere in the 12s. The rest uentioned were slow as hell and would be fighting the fat Bob for slowest spot on the list, granted I do believe all but the meanstreak would beat it
@phantommodding10254 жыл бұрын
Sean I've seen several Yamaha stratoliners including the one I own smoke alot of other cruisers. But to each is own. Cruisers is not for racing even tho they have some power to have a quick thrill with. They are for comfort more than anything. Then styling and looks.
@georgeerhard19494 жыл бұрын
Triumph Thunderbird Storm - 1700cc, Big Bore kit on the Thunderbird, strip off all the stuff that makes it comfortable, black out most of the chrome, put drag bars over the forks and a big fat rear tire on the back.... oh, and give it the Speed Triple headlights. Basically it's the Rocket III's little brother.
@Barnshal4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't a fan of Uncle Jam, but this? This is Yammie Noob certified
@timsretirementjourney83234 жыл бұрын
That was a pretty great video, .. but Harley in the top two spots? 700+ pounds or not I'd have the Boss over the Harley's. Top bike for me on the list though would have to go to the VMax. The Triumph looks big and bloated and as you said under-powered for something that big. Also how does a person keep from burning the crap out of their right leg with it right beside the manifold, ... especially on a hot day?
@imthedarknight-87554 жыл бұрын
I’d give vmax the top spot too
@Black_Mesa564 жыл бұрын
Nice April fool's day joke...
@kent67324 жыл бұрын
How about the Yamaha Roadstar Warrior? Direct competition to the M109 and Vrod but lighter with better suspension, brakes and weight. Still the only aluminum frame cruiser as far as I know.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
And also muuuuuch slower. 13 sec 1/4 mile stock my dude. There nice and put 5-6k in mods, and ull get into the low 12s high 11s, where as the bikes you mentioned can both do in the 11s stock
@kent67324 жыл бұрын
Sean Butler In a straight line. Hit the twisties and the Warrior walks away from both (assuming equally skilled rider). I love all the bikes on the list though and would be happy with any one of em.
@seanbutler22914 жыл бұрын
@@kent6732 that's indicative of a sport bike man, u ever heard of a muscle car that turns well? Nope. That's sport cars. I'm jus saying the warrior doesn't have the giddyup, to be on this list