#1 Treatment for Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (It's NOT Stretching or Exercises!)

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Train and Massage

Train and Massage

Күн бұрын

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Having TOS can create nervy pain into the shoulders, down the arm and into the hand. And what's worse is the only treatments you're ever going to hear are stretch these muscles and exercise those muscles. Which is why I'm going to be showing you the best treatment for Thoracic Outlet Syndrome you can do by yourself that's not stretching or exercising.
00:00 - Intro
00:48 - TOS and Posture Connection
02:00 - Best Treatment for TOS
02:55 - Techniques for Best Treatment
09:20 - Stretching Techniques
12:00 - Exercise Techniques
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I believe the human body is the perfect machine, capable of taking us well past our lifetime.
But I also believe its our modern environment that breaks down our bodies and gives us chronic pain before we get to truly appreciate them.
That's why Train and Massage was created; To help you relieve your pain, improve your mobility, and get stronger all on your own.
#selfmassage #sportsmassage
Even though I am a professional this is still not medical advice. The content is intended to be educational only. If you are a patient, seek care from a health care professional.

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@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 ай бұрын
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@weilzudope
@weilzudope 2 ай бұрын
right when i needed it, thanks boss
@DonaldGainey
@DonaldGainey 9 ай бұрын
Over a 100k spent at the doctors....and they NEVER even came up with what is wrong with me. I watcha video and Im dang near cured.. Thank you. I hate the medical field!!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 9 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that you finally got some relief! Keep it up 🫡🦾
@vincentvega3747
@vincentvega3747 8 ай бұрын
No way! What where your symptoms?
@nono_noxx
@nono_noxx 8 ай бұрын
Exactly me RIGHT NOW
@jjohnson2044
@jjohnson2044 7 ай бұрын
kidnappers!!!!!
@life_score
@life_score 6 ай бұрын
Same. Great video!
@VelaPhotography1965
@VelaPhotography1965 2 жыл бұрын
I am crying right now 🥺 I have been to Neurologist, physically therapy, brain scans, etc. I suggested that it might be Thoracic outlet syndrome and they told me no. The constant tingling, numbness, burning and sometimes weakness was so bad that I started getting depressed 😔 I just followed your routine and I feel 100th percent better. I am a hair stylist and photographer, so it's a double whammy. Thank you, thank you, thank you, you are the best 😭😭😭❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy to hear you are 100% better! Your jobs will def have these issue so good for you to think of it! keep it up!
@christinabrownell
@christinabrownell Жыл бұрын
Me too!! I have an entire list of doctors and things I’ve tried. I brought up TOS TO MY NUERO, an ortho, anyone and they all said no. And made me feel super dumb!
@christinabrownell
@christinabrownell Жыл бұрын
I’m an esthetician and remove hair, I think it was the lashes that f***** me up
@annawolle9016
@annawolle9016 Жыл бұрын
@@christinabrownell I'm so sorry to hear that! I have dealt with neurogenic TOS for 8 years (played violin all my life) and FINALLY scheduled surgery for late this December. Keep trying and you will get recognized for your persistence!
@giulialawrence3663
@giulialawrence3663 Жыл бұрын
Same. Neurologist, MRI brain scan, MRI of spine & brachial plexus...
@matthewsalle2591
@matthewsalle2591 2 ай бұрын
Dear god. The pain relief. Thank you. Months of suffering.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Ай бұрын
Im happy to hear that! Keep it up!
@1_Devs
@1_Devs 10 ай бұрын
8:10 Pro tip for the pec minor - if you don't have a yoga block, you can use a door frame with the trigger point ball, on each side. Essentially allowing you to lean past the frame into an open doorway.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Great tip!
@akeladavies2483
@akeladavies2483 6 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was gonna do as soon as he showed this move since I don’t have a yoga block 😎
@KilgoreTroutAsf
@KilgoreTroutAsf 2 жыл бұрын
self massage techniques: 3:15 scalenes 4:02 SCM 6:26 subclavius 7:30 pec minor stretching: 9:50 scalenes 10:48 pec minor 11:30 pec major exercises: 12:16 rhomboids
@memati7199
@memati7199 Жыл бұрын
I love you ❤
@fazeelalaher6250
@fazeelalaher6250 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@PRonYouTube
@PRonYouTube 6 ай бұрын
@rgold9329
@rgold9329 Жыл бұрын
I’m a therapist with 12 yrs exp everything he is saying is accurate. One thing I like to do that the patient hates is isolating the muscle with my fingers and gliding them down the muscles as the patient stretches in the opposite direction. It’s called active release technique and it works every time. Patient hates you for a few minutes but then loves you forever 24 hrs later. I always make them ice afterwards. They always request it if it flares up again.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Keep up your great work! 🦾🫡
@caseyob2690
@caseyob2690 10 ай бұрын
Art
@warfreddy6968
@warfreddy6968 10 ай бұрын
His line about getting old just being bad posture catching up with you really hurts.
@julie3722
@julie3722 9 ай бұрын
How come people feel called to tell others their job and confirm what is accurate or not? Getting to know and knowing your body is a matter of living as/with/in it. People are able to figure out themselves what feels good. You do not need any diploma nor school to know all that.
@julie3722
@julie3722 9 ай бұрын
​@@warfreddy6968everyone gets old with their birth. That doesn't mean everyone experience physical pain or is doomed to be a certain way. It's a matter of self-care how you live your life.
@alamoba7710
@alamoba7710 10 ай бұрын
Dude I don't know how you did it but mine immediately got better. The numbness went away instantaneously, I'm speechless like wtf? Thanks man
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
lol, I didn’t do it, you did! Sometimes you just need to know where to poke. I’m glad you’re feeling better! 🫡🦾
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Im glad to hear the magic worked lol@@TruthofDilly
@ainstlaaaa
@ainstlaaaa Ай бұрын
I can't thank you enough. I had a ski injury years ago that never really resolved to the point where recently the pain was affecting my performance as a ward nurse. You know it's bad when your patients say "is your neck bothering you?" In order to heal others we must heal ourselves first!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Ай бұрын
Im glad to hear it. Keep it up!
@kazrej
@kazrej 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a musician, composer, and music teacher. I’ve been suffering for the last four years from what I now believe to be TOS, which has severely affected my ability to do what I love. The exercises in this video are an incredible help. Thank you!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Im terrible with anything to do with music haha but I’m very happy to hear you are finding some relief, keep it up and let me know sometime in the future how its going!
@lemonpulpmusic
@lemonpulpmusic Жыл бұрын
I relate to this 100%. I hope you're feeling better
@a.duncan2216
@a.duncan2216 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I’m a conductor as well and barely can use my left arm due to TOS. Do you have recommendations for sleeping positions, stretches exercises or massage?
@pugglepooch
@pugglepooch Жыл бұрын
I'm a musician, composer and teacher too but had to give up performing and most things due to TOS so I feel your pain! I was a professional musician but TOS has ruined my career...this guy really knows his stuff. If only I'd known about him years ago but better late than never. Keep positive and don't ever give up ❤
@pugglepooch
@pugglepooch Жыл бұрын
​@@a.duncan2216 Have just asked the same question. I can barely use my arms thanks to TOS.
@user-kp7gb4hs8q
@user-kp7gb4hs8q Жыл бұрын
"...your posture catching up to you that gave you your pain' oh mate, true words right there😭 great video
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope it helps!
@SirT80
@SirT80 Жыл бұрын
First, holy sh#t! When I tell you I feel 100% better after the massages, I am speaking nothing but the truth! After months of watching KZbin vids, going to a chiropractor and having acupuncture, this video alone has created such a sense of relief, instantly! This is the first video that popped up in my recommendations that specifically mentioned Thoratic Outlet Syndrome. I wasn’t sure if I should watch but I am glad I did! I work from home on a computer everyday and my neck issue has been giving me the blues since last year. Neither of my chiropractors have mentioned these massages first before stretching. I kinda feel that’s a no-brainer and probably my bad for not asking, but I just can’t get over the relief I’m feeling! Like someone else mentioned in the comments, I was beginning to get very depressed. I was experiencing brain fog, occasional double vision, tingling in my fingers and arms, and almost questioning if I was able to adequately take on my workload to any degree of success. I can go on but wow! This is such a relief! My only question is how often should the massages and stretched be done a day? It felt so good I wouldn’t mind doing it multiple times a day! Thank you again!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m soo happy to hear you’re finally getting relief! You can do the massages daily if you’re taking it easy. Be warned it might feel sore after, the same kind of feeling as working out hard. Keep it up! You’re in control of your health🦾
@cynthiamartinez3192
@cynthiamartinez3192 10 ай бұрын
So do we do this more than once?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Try to do it every other day@@cynthiamartinez3192
@justinian420
@justinian420 6 ай бұрын
I had bad TOS from an unstable bite due to poorly done orthodontics when I was a kid. Took years, had to get proper orthodontics and an orthotic Gelb appliance (basically a discrete retainer-like guard for my back teeth. Largely resolved TOS. Just mention this in case others are struggling, it didn't occur to me that it was my bite for years.
@pippisippi
@pippisippi 10 ай бұрын
52 yrs. Being nagged by my family then myself as the curved in shoulders seems to be genetic. 23 yrs since a life altering car accident. Initial treatment @ one of worlds #1 hospitals and basically anyone and every one since. Never has anyone addressed this! Each muscle you addressed was literally hard as rock! Thank you so much! This is wonderful!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry it took so long but hopefully you can now get some real relief! Thank you for your support! 🫡🦾
@Notacarrot2
@Notacarrot2 10 ай бұрын
I'm a member of a TMJD Facebook group that emphasizes the importance of addressing trigger points. The group's guide suggests using our hands to massage these muscles initially. As the trigger points become less intense, one can gradually use a back knob tool to work on the upper back. This approach has been instrumental in alleviating my jaw problems.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Trigger points can def play a huge role in all of these different kinds of pain! Keep it up!
@rubyrosh4650
@rubyrosh4650 9 ай бұрын
@jnacrelli23 have you consulted any neuromuscular dentist yet?
@Imsarahberry
@Imsarahberry 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched TONS of videos, seen chiropractors, had to leave my last job because I couldn’t lift boxes in my receiving department over the last year . I did a couple of your neck massages and this is the first time I’ve felt relief, and I finally feel like I have some hope. Thank you so much 😭
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Im happy to hear you are seeing some relief now! Keep it up!
@christinabrownell
@christinabrownell Жыл бұрын
I lost my job to TOS also. I couldn’t keep up, I’ve had to cut back my life dramatically. Have you considered surgery?
@johnames6430
@johnames6430 Жыл бұрын
Don't give up, keep doing exercises stretches and use a heating pad to promote good blood flow. In addition to all this I've been hanging upside down using an inversion table. I've improved a lot but overuse and fatigue of the muscles brings back my symptoms especially when I sit hunched over at my desk, couple more weeks and I think it'll be gone for good
@c8fq2txcojkoqsdvvcmy
@c8fq2txcojkoqsdvvcmy 4 ай бұрын
@@johnames6430 how did things go?
@DanGibsonFilms
@DanGibsonFilms Жыл бұрын
I spend 12-15 hours a day hunched over my computer. Doctors suggested all kinds of things, but no one mentioned TOS. I came across it on the Internet, and now I stumbled across your video. Your stretches reach right where it hurts the most. Thank you so much for making this video.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! If you’re finding this useful, then check out my newest video! It goes more in depth on this and more! It’s in the pinned comment!
@adinau3592
@adinau3592 2 жыл бұрын
The story is longgg but let's just say that nothing and nobody helped until I randomly came across your video. You are a life saver! Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
I’m soo happy to hear that you’re feeling some relief. Keep it up!
@YouilAushana
@YouilAushana Жыл бұрын
Postural restoration is great too!
@giulialawrence3663
@giulialawrence3663 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! It isn't age that creates pain, it's bad posture (and neglect) catching up with us!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Facts!💪
@sreamingonline6160
@sreamingonline6160 11 ай бұрын
I want to take the time out to say thank you. I have been suffering from chronic pain since 2017. it started with a repetitive motion injury where i used my right arm to torque a part for 8 hours a day and something just popped and it shot up my head and i instantly started feeling numb on one side i went to the hospital. cut to this past week and i was never able to combat that pain. it was bad and i asked the lord to get me out of this and somehow after all these years i came accross your video. God is good and thank you for putting your content online for free
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 11 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep up your self care and you’ll be pain free in no time!
@aureliafox2924
@aureliafox2924 9 ай бұрын
Amen God is good 🙏🙌✝️
@DeniCaryPhillips
@DeniCaryPhillips 5 ай бұрын
I'm a new TOS experiencer. I intuitively fashioned a routine that helped, cobbling together a bit here and there. Your comprehensive program is my go-to and I'm going to be doing this regularly. I've never felt pain like TOS, And I don't plan to let it happen ever again! Thanks so much!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 5 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome! I’m happy to hear that! 🦾🫡
@ALLinHerMovements
@ALLinHerMovements 10 ай бұрын
I’m in tears! Instant relief. This is a chronic problem for me and I’ve never had this suggested. Thank you!!!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
You are welcome! I’m glad it’s able to help! 🫡🦾
@rvnwlf_
@rvnwlf_ 8 ай бұрын
My man! Thank you... I've been to the VA and I've expressed that my neck has been clicking, popping, and getting stuck around my throat for over a year now. I had an HNT exam with a scope down my throat just to make sure it wasn't cancer. I never even heard of this (TOS) and I've been researching Hodgkins Lymphoma syndromes due to my lack of confidence in my PC. I did this while watching and I felt instant relief and all the misalignment I've been feeling disappeared almost instantly. I will still keep with my due diligence and request my PC to send me to PT for this. Thank you!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 8 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear that brotha. I was in a similar boat whenThe VA couldn’t help me so I had to figure it out on my own. Keep up your self care, it’s only real way to get pain free.
@druna4562
@druna4562 Жыл бұрын
My physio therapist and my massage therapist both discouraged me from doing these kind of massages on the neck because they were afraid that I‘ts gonna damage the nerves. I think they were just cautious but it does not help me. Thanks for confirming that what I‘m intuitively doing is actually good for me!!! Love this❤
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry your massage therapist or pt isn’t confident enough to work your neck. Just start slow and work your way up to a little more pressure. And if you hit a nerve, then simply move over and try again. It’s not a big deal. You got this.🦾🫡
@ladyprincey9940
@ladyprincey9940 Жыл бұрын
Right on…good for you. Oh how many times have I been proven to be right by listening to my intuition and the “experts” wrong, sometimes to the point of damaging me. Always trust your gut!! 💜
@earldevera177
@earldevera177 Жыл бұрын
Ive been battling with tingling and numbness on my whole left arm down to the fingers. And the neck exercises gave me instant relief!! Ive seen alot of professionals to help me with this problem yet none talked about or even provided any info on releasing/relaxing my neck muscles... im super glad that I got lost and found your video! This helped me immensely!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep it up! 🦾🫡
@bluescrew3124
@bluescrew3124 2 жыл бұрын
By far BEST TOS video in existence. Thank you Thank you Thank you! I can’t wait to start implementing this daily & improve! I was completely unaware of the necessity of self-massage prior to stretching….no wonder my TOS has been a problem for 9 years. I’m filled with hope now 😀 thank you again!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very happy to hear you’re feeling some results finally! Keep it up and hopefully it will over soon.
@alexanderflores2160
@alexanderflores2160 Жыл бұрын
This is insane, I've had this issue come and go as I do boxing, and tend to be overusing it due to naturally the tensing up and posture issues as mentioned, my primary care was confused for a while and disregarded it, I did get some exercises to deal with it but it would keep coming back and they would not feel as effective. This is one of the most effective exercises, and it works amazinly, thank you so much!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep it up! 🦾
@Ash-qs4wk
@Ash-qs4wk Ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough! 5yrs of paying for chiropractic treatment and just the massage alone gave me so much relief! Wish I found you sooner 🤩
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 29 күн бұрын
I’m happy to hear that! Keep it up! Don’t forget to check out my new channel for tos only. @Tostreatment
@HaroldSeaman
@HaroldSeaman Жыл бұрын
I would also add that during massage of the subclavius it's best to do deep inhale and exhale as you want to encourage the first rib to move down
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Great comment, I’m going to make a note of that for a future video. Thank you.
@KellyMillerGerlach
@KellyMillerGerlach 10 ай бұрын
Amazing! I have had this problem for over 30 years and have been to many different Doctors, Physio and Chiropractors with little to no relief. After watching your video and following your recommendations; I am amazed at the results, thank you for bringing back my pain free mobility!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep up the self care Kelly and you’ll be feeling half your age in no time! 🫡🦾
@cloudkaiwiz
@cloudkaiwiz 2 жыл бұрын
I had TOS surgery about a year ago. still get symptoms in the hand down the arm and towards collorbone. I had the first rib removed for the procedure. out of all of the exercises and post TOS surgery things I was told to do, this method with stretching the neck has helped the most! thankyou sir!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
First off, I’m very sorry you had to go through all of that. It sounds horrible. 2nd, I’m very happy to hear you are finally greeting some good relief! Keep it up!
@ivoc3993
@ivoc3993 Жыл бұрын
Hi, glad you got better, I'm on the same boat as you. You had both 1st ribs removed or just one of the sides?
@cloudkaiwiz
@cloudkaiwiz Жыл бұрын
@@ivoc3993 just the right side
@xanthromera
@xanthromera Жыл бұрын
If you I had the rib removed why are your nerves still impinged? Asking for a friend who is considering the surgery as the physio program isn't really working.
@ivoc3993
@ivoc3993 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudkaiwiz just saw this now, cheers! Did you receive any recommendations regarding the very likely possibility of an imbalance created by the absence of the rib on one side?
@powerslaurae
@powerslaurae Жыл бұрын
Watching this while laying in bed & did a few of them - excited to do this all tomorrow!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes! 🦾🫡
@absbi0000
@absbi0000 2 ай бұрын
Pro-tip: place some coconut oil on your neck before you start your thoracic self-massage. Makes it much easier to massage between the fine spaces in the neck muscles.
@MrKhoshkhial
@MrKhoshkhial Жыл бұрын
Thanks its 2:45 am and the pain was bothering me that much it waked me up. Just doing first massages and it got alot better. Thanks adam alot
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m very happy to hear that you were able to get some relief. Keep it up! 🦾
@BrittneyRice-hm3wx
@BrittneyRice-hm3wx Жыл бұрын
I have been suffering with TOS for almost 3 years now I had no idea I even had it until I went in for wrist pain. I have gone through occupational therapy which helps but doesn’t last. I’m desperate and tired of being in so much pain. I was told my pregnancy most likely caused it. I feel like my ribs are being stabbed constantly. Hurts to sleep on my back and sides it’s miserable. Hopefully these exercises will help because doctors don’t want to spend the time to actually treat me. Instead I get told “ there’s nothing clinically wrong”.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I hope this is able to help! Take it easy in the beginning because it will most likely be painful and tender.
@danmoth5126
@danmoth5126 21 күн бұрын
Thank you SO much for this video! I couldn't sleep because of recent TOS but after just one session doing these exercises and stretches, it reduced by 90%.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 21 күн бұрын
Let’s go! Keep it up and make sure to sub to my new channel @tostreatment
@washymow
@washymow 8 ай бұрын
Thanks just did this and i felt a lot better, the numbness and tingling almost completely disappeared in an instant i been going 4 weeks to physical therapy and just found this cause i was searching for a routine to do for the holiday break 🎉
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Monica! I truly appreciate that and I’m glad you found relief after a single session. Keep it up and thank you for your support 🫡🦾
@sarahbengelcaisip2627
@sarahbengelcaisip2627 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I self diagnosed myself w/ TOS when i started having numbness on my left arm. I did all the special test to clear it! Had awesome release from my boss today and came across your video today. Totally agree w/ myofascial release first before lengthening and strengthening exercises. :)
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it
@pugglepooch
@pugglepooch Жыл бұрын
Please could you do a video on sleeping positions to help alleviate severe pain and numbness in the arms and hands? I can't sleep at night as pain becomes excruciating with swelling of fingers and usual TOS symptoms. I will follow your plan too. Great videos from someone who seems to know what it's all about!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you. The best option for sleeping is to do some self care prior to bed.
@Trentas91
@Trentas91 Жыл бұрын
Pleeeeeeseee!
@manoachp
@manoachp Жыл бұрын
You should sleep on your back and avoid sleeping on your sides nor stomach.
@KARENboomboomROXX
@KARENboomboomROXX Жыл бұрын
​@@manoachpwe know. It's incredibly uncomfortable . It is what it is.
@manoachp
@manoachp Жыл бұрын
It gets better with time. You get used to it@@KARENboomboomROXX
@stupidusedrnames
@stupidusedrnames 10 ай бұрын
My neck pain is so bad. I tried everything. When I massage these muscles I felt like the muscles were under other muscles. I told my chiropracter and he said that wasn't the problem! It's so bad that my head shakes cnstantly. Ive even seen a few Nuerologist. GLAD I FOUND YOU....FINALLTY!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
I hope you’re able to find some relief! Keep going! 🦾🫡
@maureen5721
@maureen5721 Ай бұрын
I found you looking up thorasic pain and didn’t know I had this. I was suffering with so much pain I said I’ll try it to see if I had this condition and it worked!! I can’t believe the relief and thank you much!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Ай бұрын
You’re welcome! I’m glad it worked!
@lisasophia775
@lisasophia775 Жыл бұрын
So helpful thank you. I'm a retired rmt and have a hard time getting quality treatment. This was a great instructive self help tutorial
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 🦾
@jamesvictor2182
@jamesvictor2182 Жыл бұрын
Gold. I have been in more or less constant discomfort with neck and shoulders for 20 years. Have watched 100's of physical therapy videos and videos about other forms of treatment, had tried massage, and osteopathy on many occasions, and nothing I tried really worked. After 10 minutes I have a new sensation in my neck and shoulders and as a consequence, hope for the future. Can't thank you enough. By the way had never heard of TOS, but had come across trigger points and myofacial adhesions, but never had anyone explained the points about manipulating the facia, followed by the correct approach to stretching, then strengthening the balancing muscles, which I must say brings together these 3 approaches into a logical sequence. I've seen proof of the first two within minutes. I've wasted so much time fighting this pain by pulling at it and getting nowhere, but at least I know the way forward
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear about your past but now hopefully you have a way forward! Keep up your self care and thank you for your support! 🦾🫡
@bronsonshanessy-bl2xh
@bronsonshanessy-bl2xh 9 ай бұрын
I’m a veteran with a thoracic spinal cord injury and I had severe thoracic outlet syndrome as a consequential result in the mechanism of injury that broke my back and damaged the chord. I had left and right front and back top ribs removed to create space ad relieve pressure, the result was immediate feeling returning to arms hands no more head aches tension and spasms, have not had an issue since.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your service! I’m glad to hear your surgery was a success. Now keep massaging and exercising those areas so you don’t get adhesions
@nancybyrd9824
@nancybyrd9824 9 күн бұрын
Great video. I’m an OT with these symptoms. I love the clear demo and explanation for each procedure. I already feel the difference after one session.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 9 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate that coming from an OT!
@memati7199
@memati7199 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Adam, i am eternally grateful to you brother. 21 years of constant pain and crackling in my neck every time i turn right associated with continuous nasty headaches on a daily basis, lethargy, brain fog, forgetfulness and a prominent 24/7 vein on my right temporal area. I might have an Atlas problem but your technique really brought a unmatched relief of the pain. I began rubbing heated castor oil ( throw some salt and some olive oil) To break up the deep adhesions and fascia restrictions , ⚠️ This is very vital for you guys. Thank you so much Adam, may Allah bless you ❤🤲🏻.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Im glad to know it helped!
@memati7199
@memati7199 Жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage maybe you will not be rewarded enough in this life, but i am positive that Allah will reward you brother 😍.
@earthmansurfer2328
@earthmansurfer2328 10 ай бұрын
I've been doing SCM stretches every day for 6 months with a teeny bit of help. And on top of that getting massages weekly (feels a bit better for a day or two.) BUT YOUR treatment for TOS has REALLY helped me (and left those muscles sore! lol). Thanks so much. I think I'm on to something now!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
I'm so happy to hear that! keep up your self care!
@clairetrinkle3034
@clairetrinkle3034 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏🫵🫵🫵🫵💪💪💪💪🤗🤗🤗🤗
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! 🫡🦾
@lynnamym
@lynnamym 6 ай бұрын
Oh my God I'm so glad I found this video. I've been in pain for three days now couldn't turn my head did this video and the for the first time the pain is gone I'm going to continue to do this. Wow thank you so much.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
I’m happy to hear that! 🫡🦾 keep it up!
@coolhomemaker1256
@coolhomemaker1256 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genius 👏 All the exercises for thoracic syndrome only worked when I followed this massage, got huge relief.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to hear that! Keep it up!
@michaelsenft3608
@michaelsenft3608 2 жыл бұрын
YOU, Sir, are a MIRACLE WORKER!! I have Ben suffering with acute symptoms since a bad massage 10 weeks ago created massive neuropathy - no doubt just the finishing touch to bad posture and tightness. I had recently (last three days) fallen into some self massage in exactly the areas you are recommending, and have magically gotten relief. I will implement your more precise prescription . Thank you!!!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m very excited to see other people getting these results!
@gunbrittmillerhusahr
@gunbrittmillerhusahr Жыл бұрын
I have had pain for 21 years. After a disc colapsed. In my neck. I started pulling my head in a strange posision to avoid the worst pain. I did that for over 21 years. I looked for help. Nobody understood. I looked on internet and understood it was TOS. Finally found you. My streching have not been sucsessful. I will seriosly do what you rekommed. Massage first. I am hopeful. And I start today my new treatment. Thank you ❤
@MrsBrit1
@MrsBrit1 5 ай бұрын
Omg this is actually helping! I've been in excruciating pain since sleeping funny before Christmas and am taking so many pain pills, but still in pain. I think this will help over several days.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 5 ай бұрын
lol. I’m glad it’s working! Keep it up for better results!
@MrsBrit1
@MrsBrit1 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have woken up this morning in considerably less pain! Definitely repeating this. Is it ok to do daily?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 4 ай бұрын
I would do it 3-5x a week. You can do it daily if youre not sore@@MrsBrit1
@silverkiss37
@silverkiss37 8 ай бұрын
I have chronic Lyme, Fibromyalgia, Hashimotos and a host of other autoimmune diseases. There were several knots I found in the muscles going up the side of my neck and working that area was difficult because it's like stone. Under the clavicle there was a clicking with every movement. Personally the diseases are one thing, but I believe trauma was a bigger evil for me. When I was 18 I had a chiropractor tell me I carried all my stress in my muscles. I am now 48. Thank you so much. Just in the tiny bit of massage I did as practice with this video, I already feel relief I have never felt before. Years of seeing drs. Years of physical therapy and also chiropractic.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 8 ай бұрын
Im glad you're finding the content useful! Keep it up!
@chrisdenning8905
@chrisdenning8905 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, very few others address the scalenes, subclavius, and pec minor. I had what was suspected to be TOS a couple of years ago, which presented as constant pain on the edge of my scap, and pain/tingling down my arm into my fingers. My massage therapist originally started on the infraspinatus, but then suggested the scalenes which were, in his words, "like piano wires" 🙂. I stay on top of it now with self myofascial release and do my own cupping.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Most people (and massage therapists) ignore the front of the body. It’s crazy to me but hey, what can you do?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
@Carol Moore Ya, sadly, I learned about this other stuff through other methods besides massage school. being a trainer, yoga instructor, etc. I have been able to see how to treat the same problem through different lenses and it has helped me see the bigger pattern.. in my opinion.
@sherilynl4038
@sherilynl4038 2 жыл бұрын
"as you get older, it's your posture finally catching up"....exactly this! thank you for this video
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I hope it helps!
@anastasia444
@anastasia444 5 күн бұрын
This is 💯 EXACTLY what I need!! Omg I haven't even started this and I just KNOW it's going to help me so much. Actually tearing up here. 😢 ENDLESS thanks. 🙏🙏🙏❤
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 5 күн бұрын
I hope it helps! Let me know how it goes!
@Othique
@Othique 6 ай бұрын
I'm literally emailing this video to myself to watch again when I get home. Instant relief, holy cow.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
You just got to subscribe. lol. Seriously, Thank you for your support. 🦾🫡
@Emmanuelx13
@Emmanuelx13 2 жыл бұрын
yooo... why are your massages so helpful.. I just literally had a cold shoulder and peck, and doing these instantly made me relieved even tho i need to contiue the stretches for weeks, but I felt like crying a little bit because the pain everywhere went away for about a few seconds. you have soemthing and I hope a lot of people with TOS can find this video please. I am going to get PT and I have a mri next weeek and a chiro app next week. thank you a lot
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and I’m sorry about your shoulder. Hopefully you’re able to find some relief in the upcoming weeks.
@danielcopeland5387
@danielcopeland5387 2 жыл бұрын
The way you show the muscle diagrams over the part of the body is really helpful in visualising how to pinpoint it. You are helping so many people with a lot of pain and restriction in their daily lives. Would using vibrating equipment e.g. gardening power tools daily have any correlation with TOS?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment, I truly appreciate it! I believe it would be more your body and arm position during work that contributes to it rather than the specific work itself. Sadly its not avoidable unless you learn how to garden behind you back haha.
@Felix5k
@Felix5k Жыл бұрын
my father got TOS from using vibrant equipment (I don't know the name of the tool), but I know he had his hands down, so it is possible
@groovyme1234
@groovyme1234 7 ай бұрын
I found the quickest relief from these aches is to do a chin tuck, hold and try and look down at your toes Make sure you stay relaxed thru the entire exercise
@ComeAsYouAre0
@ComeAsYouAre0 Жыл бұрын
7 years of suicidal misery. Social isolation, bad sleep and unemployment. The amount of videos i have seen, time spent stretching, money spent on treatment... you won't imagine. I will give this a try. Commentsection seems promising. nothing to lose, so why not. Will update.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear about that. I do hope you’re able to find some relief. The video in the pinned comment might also be able to help. Feeling tender or even a little painful early on is normal if there’s lots of tension. Just keep that in mind.
@ComeAsYouAre0
@ComeAsYouAre0 Жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage thank you. You are saving lives here.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
@@ComeAsYouAre0 Thank you, consistency is key. let me know the results!
@ligerleaf5426
@ligerleaf5426 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏. I’ve been miserable for a week and this is just what I needed! Did a little while watching and can tell it’s going to be a relief to practice this therapy daily. So appreciate this info!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 9 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that. Keep it up!🦾🫡
@Flamdring
@Flamdring Жыл бұрын
How common is this? Why has none of the physiotherapists and doctors I have been to never ever said anything about it to me? This is the pain I have been living with for at least 10 years and without realising it, I had been doing some of the massaging techniques you describes myself. It was the only stuff that helped relieve some of the discomfort and pain. I have ever had a full body scan done, including bone scan, because the doctors could not figure out what was causing my pain. So upset now about the lost time and resources :/
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I feel you on that. I had similar issues with hip and back pain and just bounced around from Dr to Dr. My theory is that massage isn't looked at (yet) as an alternative to PT. Until that happens, I hope these videos are able to help you out in the meantime.
@emilyk0209
@emilyk0209 9 ай бұрын
Best video addressing TOS that I have found out there. I have been dealing with TOS pain for 17 months, but only discovered it's TOS a month ago after a consult with my surgeon for an ulnar nerve decompression. I've had a swollen lump at my collarbone this entire time. Reading more, I discovered a correlation between TOS and median/ulnar nerve compression (they call it a double crush syndrome). My EMG showed a severe lesion at my elbow, motor loss, sensory loss, muscle wasting, and mild carpal tunnel. I truly believe it all stems from the TOS compression. Vascular TOS was negative thank goodness. These self-massaging exercises are spot on. The stretches just hurt right now. I'll be trying these for sure!!! Thank you for creating this video.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 9 ай бұрын
I do hope this video helps. Double crush syndrome might also be tightness in the pecs, subclavius, and scalenes. Make sure to work those!
@barrackenbarbar7682
@barrackenbarbar7682 10 ай бұрын
Physiotherapist here, i highly appreciate this content coz it can change the life of ppl with chronic pain related to TOS. Please take this as constructive criticism, I am missing the mentioning of Contraidications, especially with techniques that close to A.Carotis. Anyways, great content!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Very fair point, I appreciate it. I'll try to mention that more and more. Thank you for your support!
@Chris-dl7wb
@Chris-dl7wb 2 жыл бұрын
I've been having this pain for over a year. THANK YOU ❤️ it really means a lot for me to finally sleep without pain, thank you very much.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m so happy to hear that you’re finally able to sleep. Keep it up!
@valeriehamme8893
@valeriehamme8893 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The pain from this is just so debilitating some days! Been to probably 10 chiropractors over 3 decades and all are clueless. It's so frustrating trying to get "professionals" 😒 to actually diagnose you correctly and provide solutions. Any idea why so many with this condition are being failed by the "medical" community? Thanks again. ❤️
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found this video helpful. My guess on why the medical community isn't effective is because doctors wont look outside their scope of practice. Plus I've seen plenty of doctors dismiss massage as a legit source for pain relief. With all that said, there are good doctor out there, they are just rare.
@pugglepooch
@pugglepooch Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I've had mone for decades and just get dismissed or told it's mind over matter. I've never found a specialist in this field, hence why 30 years on, I have disabling pain and xant function. Even brushing my hair is a challenge.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
@Carol Moore Thank you so much. I do find most people think of massage as beneath, but thats what Im here to change. Thank you for your support!
@joanna6784
@joanna6784 9 ай бұрын
There's typically no insurance reimbursement for massage. Medical "professionals" are all too often at the beck and call of insurance companies, they let the insurance idiots decide which treatments are allowed. There's a lot more money to be be made from surgical interventions.
@bun__
@bun__ 11 ай бұрын
as an artist I have been getting scared of the arm and neck pain over the year since I heavily rely on it and there are days that it really slows me down. Thank you for this! It helped me a lot
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 11 ай бұрын
Im very happy to hear that! Keep up the self care!
@aprilflontek
@aprilflontek 5 ай бұрын
Holy pain, I'm so tender I'm crying in the pec release....omg ...my nerve pain that started so I found u...the tightness w massage brought me to tears and took my breathe away....with feeling relief...I'm blown away Thank God I found u...I didn't know these tight muscles and trigger points existed Do we do this every day or 3 x a day also
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 4 ай бұрын
lol. It’s that feel good pain! If youre sore tomorrow then skip a day if not then go easier then today so you dont over do it. I would take a break every other day at least if you’re not getting sore from it. I’m glad it’s helping!
@penjoba9744
@penjoba9744 Жыл бұрын
Love how you talked about the separating the tissues and massage first. I did notice a difference when I did that first. I’ve had dorsal scap nerve damage for years and now of course ToS and CostoChondritis thanks for this!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment! The bodies connected and hopefully working on one will help the other.
@penjoba9744
@penjoba9744 Жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage thx! It’s been 20 years. I’ve been thru tons of therapy. Hopefully this will help long term with the other exercises for the back.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Next week is going to be a great video for tos and other issues, I’m excited for it. Make sure to be there!
@penjoba9744
@penjoba9744 Жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage sure will!
@deanfox1951
@deanfox1951 Жыл бұрын
I have both also what worked for you ?
@colleenmcnally7400
@colleenmcnally7400 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and your others. Amazed, it makes so much sense as I've been working at correcting my neck hump and rounded shoulders for quite some time now. This is wonderful to be able to feel a differance quickly. I'm 63 and I just can't thank you enough
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome you’re already seeing results! Keep it up! 🦾
@alanawolf1556
@alanawolf1556 2 жыл бұрын
Just another grateful commenter here. After just two days of adding in these self-massage techniques, I was able to sleep through the night without the painful burning in my hand and fingers wake me in the wee hours. I almost couldn’t decide whether the pain or the sleep deprivation that accompanied it was worse. Truly, thank you.
@alanawolf1556
@alanawolf1556 2 жыл бұрын
P.S. I watched your posture video, paying special attention to the sleep position section. I’m wondering if you might address optimizing sleep positions for those dealing with TOS. Pre-TOS, I personally preferred back sleeping with a minimal pillow (cushioning concentrated at the neck, very little head & zero shoulder support). Since TOS, I’ve been experimenting, as the supine position seems to trigger pain radiating across my scapulae & into my shoulders (side sleeping amplifies this). Currently, my supine, flat position from toes to pelvis remains, but from there I’m now bolstered upwards at 45 degrees through the head. I’m basically sleeping on a triangle base, with a firm half-barrel pillow running vertically along my spine up to my neck, crowned with a softer pillow for head support, and two additional pillows under each arm. My shoulder blades avoid surface contact (& therefore don’t feel “pinched”) while everything around them is supported. I can’t help but think there’s an easier way. Would love to hear any thoughts you (or other viewers) might have on the matter!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comments, Im glad youre able to get some sleep. As for your question about sleeping. if the main problem is the scapulae then maybe try focusing more on the pec minor. The pec minor helps control the scapulae so maybe its the natural stretch in this muscle that triggers the pinch in the nerves which gives you pain in the back. make sure to test before trying this video and then test it after to see if theres a difference. You can test it by laying flat as if youre trying to sleep. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3qXZqB3eMaep9E
@donalkinsella4380
@donalkinsella4380 5 ай бұрын
This is the only massage which has worked for me. I hasn't seen elsewhere after extensive search . Managed to sleep through the night for the first time in months after doing this once .
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 5 ай бұрын
I’m very happy to hear that! Keep it up!
@tankconnors7323
@tankconnors7323 2 жыл бұрын
Best advice so far ..hands down...im just having a hard time self messaging my neck...I feel like im not doing it right...but atleast its a step in the right direction!.... Thanks!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it! Why do you think you’re not massaging them right?
@tankconnors7323
@tankconnors7323 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage well theres a super tender spot on my neck, that always feels like the muscle is being pulled...seems always tight and inflammed... so im not sure if I massage that spot is a good thing...seems to agitate it ..and make it worse..its so weird...i had this for over 2 years..and I can't seem to get rid of it.. really annoying..but I really think it comes from a tight chest..and behind the clavical seems very messed up.. im a bodybuilder..and train 6 days a week...very intense too... its the only thing that keeps me sane.. you think the peck muscle thats tight can cause my neck to be messed up?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
tight muscles creating pain isnt normal. Try holding that tension and paying attention the pain. See if it gets worse or better. It is very possible to get worse before it gets better. it could take 30s up to 2 minutes. and It might take multiple attempts to get it to release. A tight chest can pull the clavicle down, which in turn pulls the neck forward. So it might be a reason for it. It might also be the subclavius or the suboccipital creating more tension. My TOS Challenge addresses a lot of these issues and teach you how to properly release them.
@tankconnors7323
@tankconnors7323 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage thanks man..i'll keep working at it..im finding some tender spots in the neck..ill try to keep massaging them..and see if it helps... at least i know that its ok if it hurts...im always paranoid in making it worse...
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
@@tankconnors7323 Def keep working at it. muscles shouldnt be tender.
@davidjimmy3994
@davidjimmy3994 2 жыл бұрын
In both deltoids I have a hard lump, like a lot of tension, it's as if something impeded the flow of my muscle, the doctors say it's not important, but sometimes when I pronounce certain words or speak fast my right deltoid hurts
@bome7sen
@bome7sen Жыл бұрын
you save my life 6 year of numbness and tingling and pain now i feel to much better 😥
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that you have finally found some relief! I’m also sorry it took this long. Stay consistent and you’ll feel better.
@plkhhghj
@plkhhghj 2 ай бұрын
This felt really good! I felt like my entire body was being oxygenated
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 ай бұрын
lol, never heard it expressed like that but I like it! 🫡 you should try this one too! #1 Treatment For Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (12 Min Treatment That's NOT Exercise!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/onjSdH-ie5JnZqM
@deadlift0425
@deadlift0425 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! My scalenes(really knotty), scm, subclavius, and pec minor on my left side were brutal to massage. I can actually move my neck and shoulders freely now! Will keep releasing these areas, stretching, and strengthening so I can create permanent change!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Hell ya! I’m glad it’s helping! Keep it up!🦾
@kcmeyer88
@kcmeyer88 11 ай бұрын
Hey guys, is it normal to get intense tingling down the arm while you’re massaging these areas. (For me it’s the scalenes and subclavian) I just don’t know if I’m overdoing it or it’s to be expected? It forces me to take a break because of how intense it is.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 11 ай бұрын
try again but go at it with a gentle hand. It could be normal feeling tingling in the beginning. @@kcmeyer88
@kcmeyer88
@kcmeyer88 11 ай бұрын
Ok thank you! And thank you for putting this video together. I’m definitely finding some relief after only a few days. May God bless you sir! 🙏🏻
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 11 ай бұрын
Im glad to hear that. It usually is a little painful in the beginning but it feels so much better right after. Keep it up and take it slow. you got this!@@kcmeyer88
@inthezoneman5155
@inthezoneman5155 Жыл бұрын
5 year TOS sufferer and looking forward to starting your routines as soon as I'm done typing this! I have a couple of questions. (1) Which posture brace would you recommend? I'm not a spring chicken and need as much help as I can correcting my lifetime of poor posture. 2) I get great relief when I get migraines from massaging and pressing down on my upper trapezius. Can you recommend some self massage techniques?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I really do hope it helps! There's also a program in the description for a TOS challenge on sale right now. If this is helpful then you might want to consider it. 1. Not a fan of posture braces so I can't recommended one. Sorry 2. Try this video for the traps. What you're describing is a common trigger point issue. (this doesn't mean it cant be something else though) kzbin.info/www/bejne/n52pcpqLmr17m9E
@YaBloodyDingbat
@YaBloodyDingbat 5 ай бұрын
It took me 2 years the work out the problem. Numbness, pins and needles in my arms and hands. Constantly uncomfortable. Finally after multiple doctors knowing nothing, my osteopath worked out the problem and i had the surgery. CBD oil ended up helping a lot in the end, also neck and shoulder stretching and points of this video. Very helpful
@desifoodworld8868
@desifoodworld8868 2 ай бұрын
Hey dr told me of surgery, but I m afraid of surgery. How was Yr recovery time???
@willh7571
@willh7571 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely have this problem. Lots of pain in these areas, and trigger point about halfway up my neck on the right side. I think this has also resulted in TMJ and extreme tightness between my eye and ear on the same side. What are some techniques to relieve facial muscle tightness/pain and how can I find and address the underlying issue?
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I notice is people don’t hold the pressure long enough to relieve pain in the head. Find a tender spot within the muscle and hold that pressure until the pain goes away. I’m coming out with a video in 2 weeks addressing headaches so it should be right up your alley.
@walterdubois3450
@walterdubois3450 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage looking forward to the headache video!
@TOSUnbound
@TOSUnbound 2 жыл бұрын
The scalenes are not overactive in Thoracic Outlet Syndrome they are UNDER worked and weak. What is overactive are the upper traps, and the pec minor which doesn't allow the scapula to sit correctly. This results in the pinching of the thoracic outlet between the first rib. The other muscles that need strengthened are the lower traps and the serratus anterior. You can do your own research on this as their are multiple scientific papers published using EMGs. Edit: I’ve done further research and found that the scalenes are possibly indeed overactive.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 2 жыл бұрын
As a massage therapist, I have helped many people who had tos by only releasing the scalenes. That same nerve that gets pinched in tos can also get pinched there.
@lvanpelt1685
@lvanpelt1685 2 жыл бұрын
You are partially correct..Overactive scalenes are a real thing. Mine are enlarged, verified by ultrasound and pressing on my brachial plexus on both sides of my neck. Coughing, sneezing, having to speak loudly only exacerbates them. Using these muscles to breathe as opposed to the diaphragm can result in this, as it did for me (anxiety & stress also cause us to breathe shallow using these muscles ). With this, the scalenes do tighten and the anterior and middle scalenes pull the first rib up toward the clavicle while the poor posture causes the clavicle to drop sandwiching the nerves, vessels & arteries from the brachial bundle that run between them. But, yes, strengthening rhomboids, lower traps and serratus anterior definitely needed for me as well as keeping the rib cage and scapula mobile and gliding. My 2 EMGs showed nothing, but trapped ulnar nerve at the elbows. TOS does not have a one size fits all treatment approach, but I am definitely using the massage techniques shown here before stretching now. Appreciate this video!
@TOSUnbound
@TOSUnbound 2 жыл бұрын
@@lvanpelt1685 This is strange as a lot of my research has contradicted this. However, the enlargement of a muscle could surely cause the same issues a tight weakened muscle so it makes sense logically. Glad to hear about other causes of TOS to open my mind a bit.
@lvanpelt1685
@lvanpelt1685 2 жыл бұрын
@@TOSUnbound I’ve learned TOS is not all that cut & dry. It’s nice to be able to help each other. I was also checked to see if I had an extra rib. Not the case.. My physical therapist does manual therapy and when she gets my hips and pelvis straight & loosened up, it helps relieve tension in my rib cage, which in turn helps my upper back and neck relax. If one area is missed I don’t get the same benefits. It can be pretty individualized as far as treatments go. Just have to try different things and see what sticks. I use some of the techniques on the Muscle mind worx channel also.
@lvanpelt1685
@lvanpelt1685 2 жыл бұрын
@@av619 Excellent! I will definitely check it out. Thanks so much for creating these videos and sharing your knowledge.
@eriksand7553
@eriksand7553 5 ай бұрын
I don't quite buy the explanations of why these massages work, but I felt an undeniable relief after finding nerves in my neck that referred pain to my back when I pushed on them and then massaging those nerves. Very interesting.
@typeins
@typeins 5 ай бұрын
amazing bro.. i train since im 6 years old and no one ever showed me this trick. im now 36 and wasted my life in pain and could never concentrate after hard workouts
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 5 ай бұрын
Keep it up now so you can get back to your pain free life!
@Kyoukichi
@Kyoukichi 5 ай бұрын
His mouth and teeth movement looks like AI. Reminds me of flapping heads of Canadians in South Park
@Joseph-uv7wt
@Joseph-uv7wt 3 ай бұрын
😂
@Cheyennewashere
@Cheyennewashere 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much for this. Immediate relief! I can't tell you how many people I have seen and how much money I have spent!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 11 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that! Keep up your self care!
@CaleCoast
@CaleCoast 6 ай бұрын
I do jiu jitsu almost every day, and have a full time job as a finish carpenter where I hang doors and cabinets. Between packing doors and getting choked every day, my upper thoracic area gets mighty sore. I'm experiencing tingling down my arm when turning my head. So far, this video has helped a ton. Looking forwars to trying more tomorrow, as this has been ongoing for almost a year.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear it’s helping! Keep it up
@louisathomas3969
@louisathomas3969 Жыл бұрын
Years of suffering and so many treatments nothing worked long term.. I'm sooooo grateful for finding this video. I'm pain free at last. THANK YOU!!!!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that! Thank you for your support! Keep it up! 🦾
@Neh6854
@Neh6854 Жыл бұрын
How are you now?
@evelynkrainer9586
@evelynkrainer9586 Жыл бұрын
I want to tank you so much… years of hurting and I finnaly find you. Waouaw so helpfull ❤
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! Keep up that self care.
@paolaevangelista3855
@paolaevangelista3855 6 ай бұрын
Yes, you're right on point with all those muscles that trigger so much pain. But my problem isn't bad posture, though I could always work on that. My problem was a seat belt impact from a car accident years ago, and there's so many more muscles that also hurt. What I'm trying to figure out is, if my "tennis elbow" pain (also from repetitive grocery job and ceramic art) will dissipate by stretching these muscle groups and doing strengthening exercises?? I'm gotta admit the pain doesn't inspire me to exercise right now, but I do want to stay strong to do ceramics for many years. Any information is welcome. Thank you for putting out these videos.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
I would try the massages out and see what happens. You can also try massaging the muscles around the elbow.
@conniehollis3670
@conniehollis3670 10 ай бұрын
I was getting worried as the pain was bad. I didn’t want to go to a doctor, etc., as I was pretty sure I knew it was tos. Diagnosed 40 years ago after a roll over car accident where I found a chiropractor who did pressure point massage and heat which allowed me to return to my life. After rotator cuff surgery 20 years ago and a dislocation after slipping on ice four years ago (all happened to the right shoulder), I thought perhaps they were both coming back to haunt me at 68 years old. I then started to have the old tos pain that happened off and on through the years but not like lately, but I did yoga daily for over 30 years which probably kept tos at bay. Thank so much for this video. I started yesterday, and I cannot believe how the pain that was all over the shoulder and arm is almost nonexistent. Just knowing what it is has reduced the anxiety of worrying and not knowing what was going on. Thank you, thank you so much.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I’m so happy to hear about the results you got already. Keep up the self care, you got this! 🫡🦾
@babybearljuju7444
@babybearljuju7444 3 ай бұрын
OMG, I was doing frome the pain in my neck and my right hand, and this helped me. I can't believe the pain is just vanish. Thank God for letting me watch this video. Thus, the guy is a genius ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 3 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to hear that and thank you for your support. ❤️🫡😊
@xenokitty
@xenokitty Жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain I have this I've been to the emergency room numerous times and no one has suggested this. I literally thought I was having a heart attack. I'm so glad I stumbled on this syndrome because now I have something to bring to my doctor and ask about
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that! Hopefully you’ll get some answers now!
@xenokitty
@xenokitty Жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage thank you 😊😊😊Great information on your channel btw.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
@xenokitty
@xenokitty Жыл бұрын
@@TrainandMassage you don't happen to have any massage points for eustachian ear tube dysfunction do you? I heard some massage techniques might help. I apologize to bug ya so much. Just curious before I go searching Google lol
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Hi sorry, just seeing this. I never heard of that but I would look for trigger points that could be related to the dysfunction.
@CaliMel184
@CaliMel184 7 ай бұрын
This is crazy. I had a PT at work diagnose me because I had such bad shoulder pain I thought I had something seriously wrong. She freaked out because when I put my arms above my head, I had no pulse in my wrists. She diagnosed me with TOS but when I looked up what to do, like you said, everything was just stretches that did nothing. I did the first massage on here and felt an instant release.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 7 ай бұрын
lol, glad to hear it. Keep it up and maybe expect some soreness for the next few days.
@confusedwhale
@confusedwhale 6 ай бұрын
This really helped. Part of my problem is exasperated by the fact that I'm a side/stomach sleeper. It's extremely difficult to get to sleep on my back; so, when I wake up, it's generally to a numb hand on the bottom side... Or both if I wake up on my stomach. I just hope that this also helps me to painlessly sleep on my side again; so, I don't have to try for 4 hours to sleep on my back, or I turn over and give into the fact that I'm causing more damage just to go to sleep already.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
You got this! It’s not going to get fixed over night!
@andybryant8509
@andybryant8509 5 ай бұрын
This was like magic! Severe neck pain for a couple of days, and I tried doing different stretches and stuff all morning. I did this video, and it’s just gone!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 5 ай бұрын
I’m very happy to hear that! Keep it up! 🦾🫡
@user-zo2ln1en4l
@user-zo2ln1en4l 6 ай бұрын
I have had pain in my shoulder & burning & tingling in my neck for along time & I am having physio at the moment & they said it was probably a trapped nerve I have never heard of Thoracic outlet syndrome it seems to of eased my pain already doing these massage & stretches also just typed in this condition & I have had a spinal fusion last February & I have spinal stenosis & narrowing of the spine & it says that this Thoracic outlet syndrome can be one of the symptoms from stenosis Thank you so much I’m so glad I came across this reel as this pain has caused me to not sleep very well as it hurts a lot & when moving my arm
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear it helped! Keep up the self care work!
@user-zo2ln1en4l
@user-zo2ln1en4l 6 ай бұрын
@@TrainandMassage Definitely will do 🥰 Thank u so much
@gonzalolever5569
@gonzalolever5569 Ай бұрын
Great great stuff man. It's funny how we in this thread have had such similar experiences with doctors ignoring TOS or blowing it off. Such limitation thinking in the medical model. I feel better after doing these exercises on the restricted side. My main symptom is breathing problems that have worsened over the last 17 years. I have such difficulty getting breath INTO my lungs and 4 specialists later and no one has a clue. Truth is always SIMPLE THANKS ADAM! You the bomb!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Ай бұрын
Thank you so much and sorry about your lungs. I would poke around your scalenes, subclavius, and chest (both sides) of the body to see if that helps with breathing,. you can also work on your diaphragm by massaging under the ribs.
@gonzalolever5569
@gonzalolever5569 Ай бұрын
@@TrainandMassage it's all an education for me, tough tough days with the breathing but I've definitely grown from it so I'm not bitching....Thanks again so much for your guidance I will follow your advice for the scalenes and subclavius and massage under ribs. THANKS SO MUCH!
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Ай бұрын
@@gonzalolever5569 No problem, I hope it helps.
@inviktus1983
@inviktus1983 Жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this information for YEARS. I worked out a lot on my own but this is it for me. This is what I needed. jfc. Thank you.
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage Жыл бұрын
Im soo happy to hear that! Keep it up!
@auggiedoggiesmommy1734
@auggiedoggiesmommy1734 10 ай бұрын
I had TOS that caused a subclavian vein blood clot, but I was in the best shape of my life doing power yoga 5-6 days a week …
@TrainandMassage
@TrainandMassage 10 ай бұрын
Makes sense. My guess is you over used your muscles which caused it.
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