Is the Trad Pro V Worth Buying in 2025? (Dipswitches) | Gibson Guitar Center Exclusive Les Paul

[@WhyAlwaysMeMario]

Thats a Guitar Center return!

[@mixa3]

I actually love that it comes with coil-splits and locking tuners. It boggles my mind why would anyone opt out of having it.

[@heavybrett-al4082]

Hell yeah, that dark purple with the white binding is lovely 😍

[@terryoquinn8199]

I just got one after waiting for a month plus and it’s definitely not a AAA flame top ! It’s between a quilt top and a mess . I’ve been very patient waiting for this thing but it came factory sealed so this is straight from Gibson . Disappointing to say the least . First one had been repackaged to appear to be factory sealed but it wasn’t , that came local in MD . They couldn’t wait to ship it . I said no to open box and it was here the next day ! I’ll try one more time because I got it on sale for $2299 down from $2999 but if this is it , I’m out . The open box one looked better but if I buy new I want a new one ! Period . I hope the next one is a keeper . I love the color and the controls offer so many options to play but it has to be as advertised or it’s bait and switch . My second new Gibson , not a great impression . First one was a ‘61 SG from Sweetwater so I got to choose the exact one I wanted and it is gorgeous and plays like a dream ! Sounds great too , now this ordeal . 3 tries to get it right , I hope . Come on Gibson , you should be doing much better at those prices . Take care everyone ! Play on !

[@mikeomatic9905]

@@terryoquinn8199and this is exactly what SW is eating GC's lunch lol. (And yeah, Gibson QC is still very lacking.)

[@davidpaul6656]

I have a black 2008 Les Paul Standard and I love it! Recently turned 60 so I love the weight relief 😅

[@frankwebster9110]

I like the darker purple on the dog that they sent you but the top that they sent sealed from the factory is a lot better for sure. You gotta love that everything works as well😂

[@goldenwayfarer]

I can attest to the fact that the Southfield MI Guitar Center is overrun with subpar employees. Guitar Center has poor quality control and customer service in general but this store is worse than average. I bought a Trad Pro V a few years back and it came with scratches and the wrong knobs. I’ve had other experiences in which I had to return a guitar three times before I got one that wasn’t damaged. The only way I will shop at Guitar Center again is if they have a guitar I want that’s on sale for an insane discount. Even then, I might not buy from them.

[@jski718]

I go to that Guitar Center all the time and everyone is pretty good there. It could have been the Allen Park Guitar Center.

[@goldenwayfarer]

@ It’s been a minute, so I will take your comment in good faith and check them both out again.

[@jeffreyhughes399]

I once went to the Southfield GC before a gig and essentially sold a guitar to a couple that was mostly ignored. Sadly, I did not earn a commission.

[@georgespiggot8502]

The meter uses DC to measure resistance. Capacitors block DC voltage. If the circuit has a capacitor in series with the pickup to tame the highs, then won't get a reading with the meter.

[@paulketchupwitheverything767]

So the capacitor that's usually in a guitar tone control allows a resistance to be measured (approximately) at the jack socket because it 'bleeds' to earth and is therefore not in series? The few times I've checked the resistance of pickups typically they've not been installed.

[@georgespiggot8502]

@@paulketchupwitheverything767 yes

[@maidenthe80sla]

Best overall review and demonstration of the Traditional Pro V that I have seen. Glad you were able to get the problem resolved and get the full review completed. I picked up a used 2019 Faded Wine Red of this guitar at GC for a really good deal. Too bad they did not have the 24 month deal going for the higher priced gear. Oh well, I love the guitar and it will keep me happy for years to come.

[@LongStrangeTrip3]

Nicer board on the second one, that worked out. Beautiful top - I’m a sucker for purple/black guitars. Cool versatile Les Paul.

[@Aespos295]

I’ve got one of these in the blueberry burst. Breathtaking top and colors, but I had all sorts of issues with all that crazy control panel stuff, all sorts of squealing and feedback and buzzing. So I committed an ultimate sin and gutted it and put fishman moderns in it. Blacked out all the plastics, swapped the pick guard for an LP Custom one I had, and now it’s my absolute favorite guitar. The compound radius fretboard makes these things incredible for my style.

[@deanbartone8187]

Wow, that’s like having 12 guitars in one that is absolutely outstanding. I have no idea they had those control options. I absolutely love that. I will have to see one of them out. Thank you for the info again Trog.❤❤❤❤

[@jimcoppa6946]

I really really appreciate the way you got a second Les Paul to do the proper analysis of the guitar you're the best trogly you know how to get it done and get it done right

[@RaverRusty]

I'd think the dual sticker on the back plate is one for long term (inside) and one for display/sale (out) and expected to be removed.

[@apoplexic23]

Nah.

[@stonemad35]

I've had mine for almost 3 years, absolutely love it, it's my #1. It's a more modern classic, or a classical modern. Always thought the neck sounded muddy, and after this demo, I know it. Planning on a'57 classic switch now that they have quick connect. Bridge pickup is absolute fire.

[@Masterfighterx]

I'd say win win on the one the tool broke with a soLdering iron, the 2nd guitar has a better top and more uniform dark freboard.

[@IamMusicNerd]

I usually brush off anything that is a Guitar Center exclusive, but I got to try one of these a couple years ago and was surprised how much I liked it. The Tradbuckers sounded better than my old LP Standard burstbuckers. The dip switches give you so many tonal options, depending what amp you use it with. Long story short, it was way better than I expected. I actually prefer it over my Standard now.

[@ChrisEck13]

Tradbuckers are great pickups and its really a shame they're regulated to a GC exclusive

[@ethanhitchcock5431]

Cover up them pickups I'm blushing ! I like that the purple finish is more violet/blue than the grape purple color , I love the faded Ebony version of that guitar . Thanks Trog !

[@WilliamHaisch]

I bought a pair of satin wine red Trad Pro V Les Pauls from Guitar Center. They were jacked up, too. The “customer return” was in better condition than the “new” one! I figured out the “new” one was actually a floor demo. The edges were chewed up (including the headstock) and one knob was an old crappy one from a different guitar. The customer returned one also had chewed up edges. I liked the neck, how they played, and the slick satin finish but they were 11 pounds each and beat up… so back to GC they went! 😂

[@CraigAWhelanJr]

Missing the multi tool and truss rod cover not a blank seems legit coming from GC.

[@rafaelmartinez1917]

that crew is always stoned XD so not surprises there

[@mhelm01]

I had a 2010 trad pro that was stolen. I loved that guitar. The favorite of all the LPs I’ve ever owned outside my R9.

[@Aussieknuckleheads]

The frett board on the new one is way better than the first dodgy one. 🤘

[@TheToneTube]

I’ve been waiting for this one. Bought one in blueberry burst from the Guitar Center and absolutely love it. I like the fact that you get all the modern appointments with the vintage look. Really the best of both worlds.

[@scottmartin356]

But… but… WHAT ABOUT THE BLANK TRUSS ROD COVER?!? It’s ugly to get a guitar that messed up, I’ve never gotten one close to that bad, and I’m dealing with less costly guitars. I’m willing to overlook and/or repair up to a point…. Thank you for putting so much work into the episode, it’s always educational to see you deal with “issues”!

[@chrismartin1734]

I bought an original Trad Pro from Guitar Center in 2010. It still is one of my favorite guitars I own. And I’ve had many other Les Pauls and it’s always the one that stays. Love that Purple finish.

[@brandonhaddock6563]

I have a 20 model, it's actually my favorite to play, feels and sounds great. Soo many sounds you can get out of it.

[@bradenrichardson4269]

My one and only Gibson Les Paul is a 2018 Traditional. It's a beautiful and soulful instrument.

[@Swabere]

I picked one up in purple as well and love it. It did have 2 uneven frets that I had to level. Not in love with underwound neck, but bridge hum is fantastic. Overall very happy

[@nicolasbeaudry6158]

I have a traditional in cherry heritage (they call it this) a 2019 I pay a amazing price , was a demo. 9.pounds, it’s based on a 58. Big neck , and I swapped the trust rod cover to a blank one. It a fabulous guitar.i love it.

[@christianhunter777]

Note to the new owner: if anyone refers to you as "Pimp Lord", "Mac Daddy" or "Play'a', try not to get too offended...

[@ckelly5141]

In fact…..embrace it! 🎸👍✅

[@kevincollins8620]

This would need gold hardware first... but I see where you are going. I feel with the silver looking klusons, black knobs... this is coup de elegance. With some gold grovers and add a bigsby... dirty fretboard and old strings.... playa play on.😂😂

[@timmypix]

I think it's misleading to open the video talking about the Traditional when discussing the Trad Pro series. Yes both use "Trad" in the name, but the Trad Pro was never really anything to do with the Traditional in the old range. It was always just a traditional looking Les Paul with modern features, starting all the way back with the original Trad Pro, then it's been revised a few times, hence now Trad Pro V. I always fancied the 2012-14 Trad Pro II as it came in some fun colours and wasn't a dealer exclusive as it is these days.

[@gkott78]

The Trad Pro V was my first Les Paul. Got it in 2018 in satin iced tea. I have since purchased many more Gibson's and custom shop guitars. I will not let that Trad Pro V ever go. Its such a fun guitar. I still love the classics like a 50s standard but there is something about that Trad Pro V. Love the pickups as well.

[@cclark3905]

Damn, that was a Rollercoaster of emotions, sounds & events. 😳

[@paultrombetta]

It's in vol knob roll off where the hi-pass (treble bleed) will shine me thinks

[@Trog]

that makes sense - I had a feeling I wasn't using that right haha

[@SerpentsBane1995]

@@Trog Not only that but you repeatedly keep missing the point of coil taps - they are NOT supposed to give you single-coil or P-90 sounds but rather just a lower output humbucker! Think of it like this: Take any Gibson pickup with a hotter wound version, and coil tap engaged pads the output down to it's regular version counterpart, or even lower in theory. Back to coil splits - the reason why many do not like their sound for not being true single coil tone, is because they need to be run through 250k capacitors before heading to the output, which is what PRS does on their guitars I believe. Running them only through hardware designed for humbuckers may make them too shrill and trebly! Also, single coils are wound to be only single coils, while each coil for humbuckers are designed for the overall sound in series, which will also affect their sound when split! Also, the Transient Suppression is meant for use with modern guitarist setups such as digital modelers and computer amp simulation plugins where the overly bright sound of traditional Gibson pickups may cause additional unwanted pick noise and note attack. A lot of players were switching over when this circuit was designed, and we now have an entire generation of younger players whose guitar heroes' tones were all digital! Hope this helps! \m/

[@terryoquinn8199]

Thanks for that info !

[@ChrisEck13]

​@Trog yeah it really does. If you split that neck pickup, with the treble bleed in circuit and turn the volume down there is a night and day difference

[@seekandcrush]

This is the 2nd run of the GC trad pro v. The first batch sold quickly where you could only get open box and resale market. The first run had flamed tops in worn cherry, blueberry burst and transparent ebony burst. The satin tops were desert burst, wine red and iced tea. The flamed tops (AAA and up) were $3199 and the satin were $2399. During the guitar-a-thon sales the flamed tops were $2399 and the satin were $1699. The blueberry actually had burstbucker pups instead of the tradbuckers. I actually picked up one each of the dessert burst, blueberry and ebony. Ended up keeping the trans ebony. It looked and sounded the best. It did cone with hanger rash though .typical of GC.... smh

[@seekandcrush]

P S. The transient suppression is for direct recording. It dampens the pick noise. It's very subtle.

[@pohsibkcirrag6312]

What? Seriously? The blueberry has the regular burstbuckers? Man, guess I need to open it up and see what they say.

[@seekandcrush]

@@pohsibkcirrag6312 Mine did and GC description stated that as well. Not sure about the 2nd run.

[@terryoquinn8199]

I would be quite unhappy if I got something different than what was advertised ! That might even be enough to scuttle the deal and make me very leary of dealing with them again . I’m real big on telling the truth and being honest , ESPECIALLY NOW ! Come on folks , it’s real easy to be honest and just tell the truth .

[@ChrisEck13]

I have a satin wine red Trad Pro V, I absolutely love it. It's the best feeling, sounding, and playing guitar I've ever owned. I don't care about any of the switches or push pull pots, it's just a great Les Paul. I really want to get one of these purple ones. The Tradbuckers are my favorite pickups, they should get rid of the '60s Burstbuckers and just use these.

[@terryoquinn8199]

I’m trying to get one of these currently . The first one claimed to be a new unit but was an opened box deal . Since I specifically asked for a factory new/sealed unit , I sent it back . Then waited for about a month , got a new unit but the top was NOT a AAA flame top ! Very disappointing and will be going back too . I hope the third time is a charm as my patience is starting to run thin . I really like this model and I love the Dark Purple Burst but for 3K , I will insist on a new unit with actual AAA flame top ! Fortunately , the reps I deal with are great so they’re very accommodating and try to get me where I want to be . Fingers crossed on number 3 ! I do have other interests but really want to close this issue out before moving on , otherwise , I will have too many irons in the fire 🔥 , so to say . Take care everyone and keep on rockin’ out !

[@adambathurst1855]

My favorite and I still have is a traditional pro 2012 les Paul 60s neck in heritage cherry it’s my workhorse guitar and I’ve had it for 11 years and I absolutely love it. Thank you trogley for covering the trad pro it’s an unsung model

[@rovo7249]

I think this is the best candidate to be my first Les Paul. So many combinations. Beautiful.

[@ArchieOnEarth]

I could see the inner/outer coil switch being useful if you’re recording and want your wide-pan double-track part to sound even more thick

[@tacobreather]

Someone likely stole the blank truss rod cover and tool.

[@terryoquinn8199]

Sadly , but you will have that from time to time .

[@jimcoppa6946]

I really love the way you demonstrate the tonal versatility of that guitar job well done Austin

[@musicmnw1982]

The pins for the melted pickup on the PCB were smashed too. A new pickup won't plug into a socket that has bent pins..... Welp, looks like you noticed eventually.

[@dirkfierce2525]

Two of my most used and loved guitars are a Trad Pro V hog top and a Trad Pro 2 with a factory floyd. Don't let the GC exclusive moniker keep you away.

[@randrothify]

Fantastic dark purple finish and flamed top! Sounds terrific too! I like the contrast of the cream plastics and dark purple.

[@arustydodge2111]

Trogs, I bought one of those from the demo shop a few years back. I LOVE IT! Has a burst finish in satin, and it truly is one of my Favorite Les Paul’s in my collection! Thanks for giving this some love. 👍👍 Thankfully, mine doesn’t have the intricate electronics.

[@sailinbob11]

That's a nice one. Beautiful visually. Great tone. Congratulations

[@ravencrestmedia]

I have a 2013 Traditional w/o the dip switches. In Chicago Blue with AA flame rated top. LOVE it I was going to get the 15 Trad Pro V but I didn't like the way it felt. So I got the 2013, 50's neck profile. Love it!

[@brianice9846]

What is the difference betweena Tradbucker and a burstbucker Pro?

[@seekandcrush]

Over wound bridge and under wound neck

[@grantcindrich]

Fineee ya wore me down. I like purple burst now.

[@ToddHavel]

That out of phase tone is very nice. Peter Green sounding, or a 4 position strat. Lovely guitar!

[@Captain_Yata]

1: I cannot believe they sent that first one like that, unbelievable 2: I don't normally like burstbuckers, I find them really boring compared to something like the 490r/498t set, but these ones are just different enough so that I like them quite a bit :)

[@Duke_Silver]

How do they get both tap and split at the same time? To my knowledge you'll need two wires coming out of the pickup for split, and additional 2 for tap, and also normal hot and cold- that's 6 wires in total not including additional ground, and the quick connect system has only 5.

[@craigmacgibbon9166]

Guitar shop in my town recently had a Trad ProV in Walnut that looked pretty sweet.

[@6AM_YT]

I've had over a dozen LP's (including custom shops) in my day and my Trad Pro V has the best sounding pickups and the most comfortable neck out of any of them I've owned.

[@CraigMartin-be5jm]

Great effort for your guy and for all of us. Enjoyed hearing all the tonal options. Thanks

[@clarkbabin9799]

Thanks for sharing. I like the look of the ring less tops. But it would either have to be uncovered pickups or black chrome with matching hardware and likely a special model with all that. I've only had a couple of issues with GC . One was that I bought a demo model on a clearance sale and someone sold it out from under me. It was taking to long to ship it so I called the representative I usually deal with. I had all the information on the sale and he was able to find my order by its number and verified someone canceled my order and sold that guitar the very same day. He found another one sitting in stock and was able to ship it in a weeks time. I already had the clearance sale price and after asking they gave me another 20 % off . The guitar is an Epiphone Trad Pro III and has the split coils.but no additional special special electronics or dip switches. But when I got it the guitar appeared to have been hanging . It syltill had the clear plastic on the burstbucker pickups and there was some dust and build up on the fret nuts. I cleaned it up and replaced the strings and was good to go. The other issue i had was id bought a Squire Strat with black hardware and trem system. They didn't put the trem bar in with the shipment. When I called the store it came from the guy that answered said they were wondering where the trem bar came from that was on the table where they pack shipping items. I got it in a couple days .

[@SuicidalGrind]

So many twists and turns but at the end of the day it's mostly just a whole massive case of preference this guitar, I prefer a guitar with two knobs hence the Jackson Soloist SLX in Lightning Blue being my favorite guitar I own. Just gotta plug in and I don't gotta worry bout nothin'

[@tedjohnson5210]

I got the satin desert burst, beautiful guitar. Love the tradbuckers 👍

[@eddiejr540]

Ooooh, I like the darker fretboard on the second one 👍

[@jamesc8563]

Lucked out and got a nicer top on the second one. The lighter purple shows the figuring better. I used to get really annoyed at the very idea of a PCB in a guitar’s control cavity, but the versatility is admittedly pretty impressive, and those pickups seem to split and tap fairly well so the different tones are actually reasonably usable instead of just being options for options’ sake. I think I’m probably looking at Heritage instead of Gibson if I ever get another singlecut to keep my ‘07 Blonde Beauty Standard company, but I might have to think a little harder about that since there’s a used Trad Pro V with a nice top that I’ve seen floating around local Marketplace listings…

[@papasmamas1]

Very pretty LP, would look more great with an ebony board. Definetely pickguard off, looks extra classy that way.

[@sassycat]

Checking those GC links, it looks like the purple model is the only one with the traditional neck joint, all the rest have the heel swoop. If this was offered by anyone but GC...

[@duanewelsh5611]

Can I get half inner coil, half outer coil out of phase???

[@MegaHomie4life]

7:27 Trogly got chilly making this one!! 🥶

[@AndrewAHayes]

A tapped coil and a split coil are two different things, yet Gibson seems to label them both as the same thing on this model. Does anyone know if these have a true tapped coil and a split option?

[@jimcoppa6946]

Yes absolutely I think Gibson should make a guitar with those tonal versatility options on the guitar so you don't have to take it apart to get those tones

[@ralphwest8156]

Sorry you had to go through the first one ' but this Purple Trad V is gorgeous - for me the Rosewood board looks a lot better, love those AlNiCo 5 Tradbuckers with all the warm tones and grit' ...so much variety with the fancy electronics, definitely a one guitar in performance - could do with a light under the back plate to see what you're doing on stage ' ha ha

[@ashleyjackson8538]

All its pickup options sound amazing ! And loads of sustain .

[@wiseguy9202]

I've been curious myself as to why some of my PCB's can be tested and some can't. Very interesting to know.

[@edgardo034]

I own one and love it. In blueberry burst. It's awesome.

[@prodantech]

I’ve really enjoyed playing the Trad Pro V. I was close to buying one.

[@badtonestudio]

Cool guitar, thanks for sharing.

[@PukeyMcDork]

I got a purple burst LP direct from Gibson recently. That way you get 10% off and the guitar comes to you unplayed, in fact the case still stinks like paint it's so new. The guitar he first got was a return i'm sure. These days best to get it Direct which for me has been great for both fender and gibson. unplayed, perfect not a single mark. the electronics being modular is fine. i've got vintage guitars and the old fashioned solder thing is always a freaking problem, under heavy use it tends to fail over time, and it's so hard to fix correctly. As a regular player it's got to sound the same every time and so done with old crackly stuff, the odd grounding, etc. The complaint "modular means i can't change the pickups". Pro tip. Don't mess with the damn pickups. don't mess with the parts. Good guitars are fine, i play all sorts of tones with the burstbuckers they're Jim Dandy. As soon as you mess with that stuff you're down a rathole of endless repairs. one more thing, the great ones like American Made are built by hand. they are by definition not "perfect". They will have all sorts of "imperfections" if you look closely enough. This is a feature not a bug. An indonesian Jackson is perfect. They're made by machine. Get one of those if you like that vibe, not knocking it. But a great handmade american guitar is going to have imperfections to it. The first time i saw a real 59 LP i was like "damn". Not perfect to say the least.

[@rexnhogz]

I got a 2017 trad IV got it for 1300 at GC boost switch took a dump and wired it regularly. And the pickups were loud. Waxed them and its pretty good and as great top.

[@juanvaldez5422]

I like the dip switches in my SG HP … multiple, usable tones

[@MegaHomie4life]

Did he get a blank truss rod cover or another “Trad” one?

[@hkguitar1984]

Thank You for the NGD Sir, you've a beautiful Les Paul.

[@frankaalderink3667]

doesn't the CH stand for Cream Humbucker. its a cream pickguard for a humbucker LP

[@robertb5175]

On his first re string. The tail piece bushings come right out of the body. GC’s tech was less than helpful, saying he didn’t want to damage the finish…. Had to glue and shim myself.

[@tgarder]

Hey Trogly, for someone looking to get a first Gibson on a budget (looking at reverb), would you recommend Tribute over Modern or... none of them?

[@Trog]

Get a 90s studio with ebony fretboard and call it a day - or a late 70s "The Paul"

[@CarsAndGuitarsTV]

Will you be selling this one. I’ve been looking for a purple trad v since guitar center had them on sale and I missed out!

[@Trog]

They were back on sale last night. This one was pre-spoken for

[@thomaskafafian2871]

That’s a beautiful guitar. I would have died for that guitar 20 years ago. I prefer more well ridden and broken in horses nowadays.

[@ManOrWomanIDK]

I would prefer to keep it in tap mode, but not because it sounds like a single coil. It just sounds like a better alternative than the split

[@PhoenixGuitars]

That’s a good guitar. The electronic options are also really great. You don’t HAVE to use them. Out of phase particularly handy imo.

[@LousReview]

I think the second one has a nicer top!

[@mr.timebombman2230]

It should come with a blank truss rod cover. I'd definitely switch it to the blank one.

[@AuramiteEX]

This is a really cool Les Paul. Surprised it's limited to a single retailer. Looks to kill and a nice mix of modern and traditional features.

[@mstewart248]

I have the black all mahogany version. I fucking love that guitar.

[@NormSmith-b1t]

I pick up a 2023 Trad Pro V in satin black from GC, at a great price $1250.00. Only thing is, I feel the pickups are a little Bright for a Gibson LP

[@scottdahlberg4890]

I'll take that in a lefty please.

[@ashleyjackson8538]

I would have to get the black hardware.

[@ChrisGentry-e9z]

At first I thought it was going to be a flying v with a les paul headstock like the Albert King v.

[@joshualoveless20]

My 2019 LP traditional in Tobacco burst is amazing. It's basically a Standard with a double A top instead of a triple A top. And it's heavy as F.

[@peterwalker5413]

Maybe they can send the setting from a phone app then the change can be in real time and saved. 😮❤

[@mertmunson1417]

I have one and its right up there with both of my standrards and classic!!! Its a phenomenal guitar!!!

[@thunder_moo]

I went to the guitar center in Toledo last week and was so unimpressed. Picked up no less than three 2k+ Les Paul's with mile high action and necks way out of adjustment. Didn't even bother plugging anything in. If no one there cares I won't either

[@RUSS312]

Awesome fretboard on this example. Edit: on both!

[@martinhiggs7027]

Trog you need to do a program concerning modern electronics compared to original wireing, as today's new Gibson guitars R getting so far away from pot's cap's and good ol'e solder. I was shocked at the {module} inside a new Les Paul !

[@ChrisEck13]

They still use pots and caps, just not solder. But it's actually the opposite of what you're saying, they've went back to hand soldering on most guitars like the Standard. There's only a few that use a PCB, and this PCB actually uses 50s wiring.

[@martinhiggs7027]

@ChrisEck13 I think you missed the point here ! The modern circuit board style instrument's "R" let's say a module installed in the instrument with hard wired circuit boards, visibly they "R" quite different , I feel there is a difference in the output sound of these modern units ! as a busy repair guy I've stayed away from these guitars, just like a robot tuner, another fantastic Gibson save all invention ! NOT !!!

[@ChrisEck13]

@martinhiggs7027 as a "repair guy", you should know that a connection is a connection. Whether a pickup is connection to a pot with solder or a PCB makes no difference whatsoever in the output. As long as a connection is established there's no difference. The only arguable difference is reliability and ease of replacing a single component.

[@OakLawnSpeedShop]

Bought the satin iced tea for $1250 used and pretty much unplayed. Polished it. Great Guitar. Neck is a touch thin for my goon hands but I love it..

[@kennethh2430]

Floor model that was sold and returned at least once, sad :( If it were 'Open Box' at open box price, then ok, but come on GC!!