Turbo vs V8: 2024 Honda Civic Type R vs Ford Mustang Drag Race, Roll Race, Brake Test!

[@Distracteddesigner]

So you're saying the GT feels like a "Grand Tourer"....huh. Who would've thought...

[@IanMicheal]

Yeah one of the more silly comments for 2024..

[@yissibiiyte]

Fanboys have overhyped the Type R to oblivion, and Honda have priced it accordingly. 50k for what is still a FWD economy hatch is ludicrous.

[@Marbind]

Imagine paying 43K for a base mustang GT and you can't even seat people in the rear without cutting their blood circulation. Can't take a turn faster than a FWD economy hatch or even worse stop in a shorter distance. This is really ludicrous.

[@x6dingle6x]

They didn't price it accordingly... They did it civically. 😅

[@kcspeed9980]

Ok. I get what you’re saying, but it is fantastic on track. It’s frightening capable for a front wheel drive car. I still think it’s an overpriced hatchback, but in its market it’s the fastest one, on track. And it’s cool trick is fitting 2 people, a set of slick tires and all tools inside and driving to the stack to swap.

[@linhunnicutt6556]

I think I’d rather have an Integra type S.

[@fritty9927]

Everyone knows people with Mustangs aren’t fanboys😂😂😂😂

[@ryanb8466]

I'm so glad you actually use the drag strip mode because in that car it makes a huge difference.

[@totov7673]

@@ryanb8466 Muscle cars are so bad they dont have strong trap speed. a mustang GT500 11.8@125 🤣 760 hp??. You call a trap speed 125 mph 760 hp?? more like 350 hp lame.

[@Marbind]

Comparing a civic type r to another car using drag racing is like taking a road bike against a mountain bike in the forest trails. This car was not designed to outperform in the straights.

[@marcinhernik1270]

This is what bothers me about many car reviews. Some of these need more specialized reviews rather than hey look how much slower a 4 cylinder car is from an 8 cylinder car. I mean its a no-brainer it's like asking how is a butter knife at cutting a steak or a scalpel at cutting a tree?

[@oscaraguilera4172]

@@marcinhernik1270 the type R still gets slapped by a regular GT with PP on a track, i don’t know why yall are coping, it isn’t a good car in anything for the money.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

@@oscaraguilera4172umm it is FAR better than the Mustang, MOVE ON

[@lidolf8168]

​@@Georgewashington-o7m At what? Fuel efficiency and functionality? Which are both things nobody looks for when they buy a sports car. The GT beats it in the straights and track. It doesn't even beat European rivals either. It would be awesome cheap fun if it were cheaper but it's not. Thus it fails at everything except reliability potentially but the poor car was sent to compete in a market it fails at and it costs too much.

[@fritty9927]

@@lidolf8168it’s not beating a type r on any track, what have you been watching😂😂😂. I get it”fanboy”. My brother has a Mustang and it can’t keep up with my 18 year old S2000 if you put a curve in front of him. He still thinks it’s faster than a NASCAR😂😂😂😂

[@scotturich]

Mustang is a drag King but the Type R is a track King. They both different things well. If it was Darkhorse though they would be closer on a track.

[@Marbind]

DH > CTR GT with performance pkg is pretty close to the CTR

[@scotturich]

@@Marbind DH will beat CTR overall but the performance pk gt still won’t keep up with the CTR

[@Marbind]

All I know is this C&D Lightning Lap Times 2018 Mustang GT PP = 2:53.8 2023 CTR = 2:58.8@@scotturich

[@johnflanagan6231]

IDK my Darkhorse with Handling package will put in work.

[@scotturich]

@@johnflanagan6231 I’ve run on the track with a few already and there isn’t a big separation. Don’t get me wrong the Darkhorse is a proper track car

[@DannaNazzaro]

I own a Shelby Gt 500 and a New 2023 Type R and love them both. Different in many good ways! Except for the crazy ADM on the Type R…..

[@wheelspincentral]

This was an interesting comparison but I would love to see a comparison between the Civic type R and the Hyundai Elantra N because they seem to be pretty close and it would be a cool comparison

[@dub88acc]

That misaligned shift knob on type r is unsettling 😂

[@ChaseErickson-mc7cl]

i own an 11th gen si with the same shifter setup, and its not as bad as it looks, its just to leave space for the buttons and because of the reverse placement being to the far right and down, it feels totally normal to shift, infact its one of the best shifters ive used!

[@Mototzigane]

I'm taking the Mustang everyday and twice on Sunday

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

Me too! 😁

[@heinman6250]

Engines nice but the Civic just drives so much better

[@theGONE_]

Good luck hugging trees

[@jagger2001]

In manual

[@antoniobermudez4989]

Here is how the civic is worth the 45k. You buy a 10 gen type R: 35k, you left with 10k. Upgrade intercooler intake and fuel system and put 18 inch forge aluminum wheels with good tires like ps 4s. Then a good tune. It comes out to about the 10k. And it wheel compete good against any mustang gt on the streets and it wheel massacre it on the race track.

[@ezekielochieng8941]

Both great cars to drive. The civic is too expensive. Not to mention the astronomical adjusted dealership markup prices even before options. But I gotta admit, that power plant is amazing and let’s not forget that as a fwd car, NO TORQUE STEER!!

[@tactical_potato81]

Oh it has torque steer, but in a very different way than other cars since the ecu does weird shit to make it feel different.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

It is NOT to expensive, it is worth EVERY penny and then some

[@ryanb8736]

For a 60k Honda, they should have put in red back seats. Looks so ghetto with black seats in back. Honda cut corners.

[@benjaminmatute9085]

@@Georgewashington-o7m No. For the 60k it's worth. Go get the integra version for the same price.

[@karag6556]

@@benjaminmatute9085 lmfao $60k for a Honda Civic with an R logo and turbo, people have certainly lost their minds hahaha

[@Veritas0589]

Thank you for recording this in 30, and not 24fps 👍

[@Kahless00]

The mustang feels like a grand tourer? What the hell. Who knew. Whats gt stand for anyway? Oh right, grand touring. The brakes shouldnt be as bad as the test shows. Its the tires. You can get the same tires on the mustang with the same width as the type r. Do it when it's warm again and retest the brakes.

[@C10sRule]

Price range is fair enough, but the Civic is at its highest performance spec. Maybe see if Ford has a 2.3 litre Mustang with the performance pack as a $45,000 comparison. THAT might be very close! The civic will still handle a bit better due to 5he weight difference.

[@Hazdazos]

The Civic is a great car and all, but when you put it up against a Mustang, it really shows how Honda priced it too high. The CTR was known for cheap speed but it isn't cheap anymore and really should have topped off at a good $5k less.

[@marklion315]

The CTR was never known for cheap speed, that's the mustang.

[@COne-qu2pf]

Lol ford is cheap speed, are you serious?

[@KC-lg8qf]

Mustang is made for straight line speed ...the civic is made for corners. Two completely different purposes..

[@welcometoasia9984]

Probably bc the civic stock was made for a different reasons

[@humblegent4741]

I bought a 2021 GT 3 months ago with 30k miles for $30k out the door. The S650 is basically a face lifted S550. So if you’re looking to get the cheapest best bang for buck Mustang the s550s are the way to go right now especially since prices dropped after the release of the S650.

[@AZ-hf9ow]

Most people compare the price of a car to the hp, 0-60 & 1/4 mile time. People talk out of there ass when they have zero experience on how the vehicles perform in the real world. Unintelligible people who base their opinions off KZbin videos 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦

[@LX450_Adventure]

Lots of assumptions in this video about backroad performance, yet no backroads were seen in this video. Prove it, then talk about it. At one point Tommy was ecstatic about the 10 speed transmission in the Mustang, then at another he said "Meh." Personally, I would take a rear wheel drive car over a front wheel drive when it comes to any spirited driving, cornering or straightline.

[@Marbind]

Nothing to assume here, this is common knowledge. To beat or match the spirited cornering performance of CTR you need to spend on a Dark Horse or get the Performance Pkg that might even things out when turns are added to the mix.

[@angelgjr1999]

Better tires, brakes, and suspension and the Mustang would still beat the type r on corners. People think Mustangs are still in the 60s of technology. They handle great with a professional driver

[@Marbind]

@@angelgjr1999 false. Needs the proper handling packages. Without it the CTR will own it in a road course.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

@@angelgjr1999 umm no it wouldn't

[@angelgjr1999]

@@Georgewashington-o7m fanboy spotted.

[@NAZTYPONY007]

my 2018 A10 PP ran a 11.88 118.6 at sea level stone stock on michelin 4s tires

[@controllerfreak78]

I'm not very knowledgeable about cars, but it seems odd to compare the two. A honda civic type r is obviously meant for someone wants a more powerful daily driver than your traditional sedans or coupes, but also wants to maintain fuel efficiency and comfort. It's powerful, but power isn't the only goal. A mustang is a classical muscle car that's meant to look, feel, and sound powerful, though not as comfortable and spacious as the civic. They're different cars for different purposes. Now personally the Type R doesn't make sense for me since I would prefer to go all in on comfort or power rather than try to mix the two and get the worst of both worlds so I'd go with the mustang if I hated my neighbors, but a regular civic if I wanted a daily driver.

[@karag6556]

If these dudes are going to delve so much into nit picking little things then here goes. They lie so hard about the pricing difference. The base model 2024 GT is around $42000 and the performance pack is about $47500. They are literally nit picking this against a Civic they said costs about $60000. They try sooo hard to find anything the Civic is good at but it's not good at anything not even pricing. A performance package GT will be competing against much more expensive cars reasonably on a track compared to the Civic which would be left in the dust. Even better is the 5.0 is literally a race ready forged engine, for even still less money than the Civic, you can slap a super charger kit on the Mustang and even retain a 3 year 36000 mile warranty from Ford. The engine will have over 700hp with just spark plugs, fuel injectors mostly. Let's be honest and ask ourselves how much would we have to replace and upgrade in the Civic Type R engine to come close to 700hp that reliably? Case closed.

[@WisconsinEric]

Plenty of 700-1000hp Civics right here on KZbin sweetheart. Guys are making 500+whp in Honda Accords with the detuned version of the 2.0t. Those Accord 2.0T's were under $30k new.

[@karag6556]

@@WisconsinEric Sweetie pie, I think you may have misunderstood my post. I never said that making any car 700 hp is not possible. I clearly stated pricing since in the video they seemed to involve pricing over and over. My point was simple, a brand new Coyote 5.0 Mustang Gt engine is literally already built for 700 hp with just spark plugs, injectors and little tuning with the blower for the most part so much so that even Ford themselves offer 3 year warranties 36000 miles on Mustang Gts with an installed kit themselves also. The big difference I was making is that with the Hondas and many other cars the engines literally stock are not reliable at all running 700+hp they require internal component swaps and much more. You can even get a used 2017 Mustang GT for under 30k plop a super charger kit on it and for the most part have a very reliable 700hp car that is still very capable on a track especially with a track pack GT sooo much cheaper and easier competing with cars in the six digits for probably under $50k but the guys in this video lie about the Mustang GT performance pack because as I originally stated a 2024 GT is around $42k and a performance pack is like $47.5k and just installing a supercharger through Ford can even retain a warranty and probably still be cheaper if not the same price as this Civic R that the base Gt is already walking away from, you would essentially have a borderline exotic track capable car at that point

[@WisconsinEric]

Civic Type-R is priced at $45k. The video makers "$60k" was what some guys paid due to demand during the plandemic. I remember when '01 Integra Type-R's were $26k and Mustangs were priced the same. Mustang owned the Type-R at the strip and the Type-R crushed the Mustang in the corners. I bet the results would be very similar between these current offerings. If you plug $26k into an inflation calculator from 2001 to 2023 you get $45k(blame the Federal Reserve). The same guys that thought the Type-R was too expensive in '01 now wish they would have bought one as resale prices are very high. I suspect this current Type-R will age well too. As for internal engine modifications to make 500+hp from k20's and k24's, none are required, not even rods. The videos are right here on KZbin.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

​@@WisconsinEricI build hondas for a living. I'm sorry, but please stop talking. The domestics are killing us. We have to mod out our Hondas to simply compete. To get to the performace of a supercharged domestic and we better have 30k dumped into the AWD kit, built engine, and turbo setup. If you skip the AWD kit, you can half the price, but that's still ridiculous, because we're talking about the better k20, pre-CTR, and it's an old vehicle without a modern chassis. You want to use a modern chassis kike the CTR/Accord 2.0, you better easily double those cost numbers.

[@WisconsinEric]

@@copperkeyracing6167 Re: "Please stop talking." Your replying to a thread I stopped "talking"(writing) in 8 months ago. Since you are so condescending while proclaiming to be an expert building Honda's for a living, may I ask how long you have been wrenching on them?

[@mannyzx1]

Wow the coyote sounds amazing now! I don’t think you even need any aftermarket exhaust equipment. The Civic is worth every penny, but I don’t know if it’s because I’m getting old, but the four door hatch looks kinda ugly. I’d probably get the Si.

[@justa3v619]

13.66 a 111mph. It’s crazy what elevation does. I’m at sea level and my 19 gt 10 speed on a street tire went 12.06 @ 119mph

[@jake-yg4ej]

I picked up a 2024 mustang GT with the performance pack for 53k. Definitely has better handling and brakes with that option. Lower than there 60k mentioned.

[@ashishthomasalex1320]

The Civic should be 35 k then it's a really nice deal here in Canada it's at 80k which is ridiculous it's more expensive than my Cadillac. There is no justification for pricing a Civic at the same rate as a zl1 😮

[@jimhimesjr]

Technically = big screen is the dumbest thing ever. If they do the same thing and the screen is appropriately sized who cares about the screen size. You aren’t watching movies. Software and implementation are way more important to me

[@copperkeyracing6167]

3:12 It's not impressive when the domestics are beating you. Rewind 15yrs ago to 30yrs ago, and the products from Honda was directly competing with the domestics. This is an absolute disgrace. You need to step up your game, like Mazda did 18years ago with the Mazdaspeed3. All you did is copy their formula from 18yrs ago. Nothing impressive, by far. 18year old straight line performance and you think your product is wonderful because of the seats, the red splashed everywhere and track times that 99% of customers will never use??? The RSX-S had the right formula for its time. The Mazdaspeed3 had the right formula for its time. What happened, Honda??? Mazda MSR3 is coming, and you better step up your game!!! You should be grateful that Mitsubishiti dropped out without their EVO, and the STi dropped out also.

[@mm8436]

These comparison always brings out the fan boys. You don't need to talk down another car to bring yours up.

[@mikehughes8023]

That’s not what they are doing. It only happens in this comment section.

[@drivescene6747]

EXACTLY

[@guillermoalaniz2603]

Facts buy what you like drive what you want it doesnt matter unless you tryna have the fastest 😂 tx2k will still beat you in a drag race or street

[@SPPTA]

That finish line cam….. the sound from that yote is awesome

[@IKnewMickey]

Remember when a wise TFL employee said "We're not scientists. We're car guys". 😂 True and I'm enjoying the entertainment value here.

[@stevewallace1387]

I had the previous type r and I now have a mustang gt and on a A or B road the type r would leave the mustang miles behind it has a better chassis better suspension and gearbox but the sound of a v8 on a straight road is very hard to beat . And even though I love both car's equally the mustang puts a bigger smile on my face

[@comicrandomness3289]

I love my mustang. I use it to drive to work. It would be nice if ford made a sedan like the ford crown Victoria. I'll just have to buy used to use as a town car.

[@ImmortanDan]

The Mustang has 50% more horsepower while *not* being 50% heavier. And is somehow priced in a similar ballpark... Now, would AWD have somewhat equalized this situation? Perhaps, but it's just more weight, complexity and cost. Transverse platforms just don't have much of a place in this price range.

[@angelgjr1999]

Mustangs are quick in the high speed range, it would still smoke the civic even if it has AWD. Put some fat slicks on the Mustang GT and they’re one of the fastest cars on the street.

[@fritty9927]

@@angelgjr1999😂

[@amatureskater15]

and still ugly and lame. @@angelgjr1999

[@theleanman9558]

@@fritty9927I bet you own a Honda lmfao

[@fritty9927]

@@theleanman9558 swing and a miss. I drive a FWD Toyota.

[@BigInjun05]

The mustang has no competition for the price.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

Umm there is PLENTY, and this Honda is one of them

[@BigInjun05]

@@Georgewashington-o7m wrong, next contender.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

@@BigInjun05 NOT wrong, YOU are wrong

[@BigInjun05]

@@Georgewashington-o7m incorrect.

[@str8upkills60]

Camaro better

[@k28gt]

Both are great cars, just very different from each other. Comparing apples to oranges. It's really just a preference thing

[@ChasingDifferentAdventures]

I will never buy anything with Turbos, and will never buy Front wheel drive either, and will never buy Automatic Paddle Shifter DCT transmission either. 🏎️🏁🚩👩🏻‍🚀👍🏻⛰️🌲I currently, drive a 2022 Roush Mustang, with the Rev-Match Tremec 6 Speed Manual Transmission MagneRide Suspension. My Roush no matter how hard you take a corner it will not Lean and no matter how hard hit the Brakes it won't dip.. Dark Horse Out Brakes a GT3 Porsche according to Motor Trend or Edmunds

[@signpost5596]

A more fair comparison would be between a CTR and a Mustang Ecoboost with the HPP. Both have 4 cylinder turbo with similar HP rating. The Ecoboost HPP has better brakes and performance tires. It might even give the CTR a run for it's money on the track.

[@dntshoot]

Now let’s see them on the track

[@IS-ie3jw]

Civic all day

[@nlken7175]

Civic Type R really needs awd for the price. Test the last 2024 Camaro vs that Mustang.

[@macneill949]

That’s not the point of a CTR. Every single Type R has been FWD. If you need AWD there’s plenty of options like Golf R, WRX, Focus RS and GR Corolla

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

For the price? this car is cheap

[@Marbind]

Then it becomes slow in the corners like the competition. Golf R and GR Corolla No thanks

[@Marbind]

Fun fact: All of the car you mentioned with all mighty AWD are slower around a track than the CTR. Source: Car And Driver Lightning Lap leader board.@@macneill949

[@amatureskater15]

it's faster around a track, and in general...... so your opinion is stupid and incorrect@@Marbind

[@msimrow]

45k for a honda civic? are you high?

[@commonduck10]

It’s not just civic lol It’s a totally different car from a regular civic….everything is different mechanically and more.

[@amatureskater15]

wasting your time, he won't ever understand @@commonduck10

[@WisconsinEric]

In 2001 the Integra Type-R was $26,000 new. That was for a NA 1.8 liter making 195hp. Accounting for inflation $26k in 2001 equals $44,500 today(blame the Federal Reserve). Back then people thought $26k was too much for a Type-R. Today resale prices are very high on those Type-R's as very few were sold. I am thinking the current Type-R's will age well too. I'm not "High" but I did just blaze a pink strawberry pheno of Jack Herer F2.

[@tuckerlehman]

The type R is an overpriced 4 banger with a manual transmission. With some of these crazy dealer markups you'r looking at almost M2/Dark horse money. Which even if the type R was a little faster around a track (which it isn't) that's so much more car for the money. Besides who's gonna track it except for the select few. Everybody knows the real races happened on the street. Its still a good car, Honda did a good job, but the price should be somewhere in the 30's.

[@rodneysimpson2708]

If that civic was AWD would be a better race

[@TomShirazi]

Try the Mustang against a Golf R with a DSG transmission.

[@adventurer4188]

Still love that type R, small little tune, let em run again. Amazing machine in the Honda Type R.

[@BruceKent00]

And what if the Mustang is tuned 😂😂😂

[@michaelthomas5140]

The real accurate price comparison would be the Type-R vs Mustang w/performance package. Some people like the V8 sound and power. Others prefer a turbo 4 cylinder with red seats. I personally would get the Mustang w/PP. But I won’t, don’t worry, I’ll still be driving a shtbox Ford Ranger.

[@benjaminserino6611]

What’s insane is the last generation mustang was literally 10k cheaper and would still smoke the civic in the drag but that’s to be expected that’s not what the civic is designed for

[@danziger69]

I just can't see why anyone would buy the Civic for the same money.

[@markv78]

You guys should set up a salom course to demo the handling . When u guys compare specs tommy forgets to give mustang tire size and brake size if your gonna throw specs let's hear it from both sides. Two other considerations with these tests reliability and resale. My bet is that the Honda takes both. Fun video though

[@DaD-xx7vr]

Waah, my tires are smaller. Stfu

[@angelgjr1999]

The Honda is way overpriced and overhyped. A few upgrades in the Mustang would make it corner better than the type r. Keep in mind they’re comparing the top of the line Honda to a base model GT.

[@fritty9927]

@@angelgjr1999keep in mind it’s a 4cyl. VS 8!

[@francoisrivard893]

Have you checked the resale on GT Mustangs lately? 2017 for 2017 they're at least equal with Mustangs going as high as $36,000. As for reliability and durability, smart money is on an N/A V8 any day. Turbo 4's are not exactly known for durability and low maintenance.

[@markv78]

@@francoisrivard893 Honda is known for quality and long lasting engines however. Have not checked the values but be nice if TFL included this in there report was my point

[@theking1411a]

Mustang all day 🤩

[@IS-ie3jw]

Nah

[@Roll-With-It-7]

I would rather have the Mustang for $45,000 but if the civic was more like $35,000 my answer would be different, I like them both overall

[@WisconsinEric]

The 195hp 2001 Integra Type-R was $26,000. $26,000 in 2001 equals $44,500 today accounting for inflation. That was for a NA 1.8 liter with none of the fancy computer screen BS that people "need" these days. In 2001 people thought that $26K was too much for the Type-R, but when you built a Type-R out of a GSR or base model you would quickly find that $26K was a bargain for the R-spec Integra. Today those 20+yr old ITR's are very collectable and command very high resale prices. I suspect the new Type-R's will age well too.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

​@@WisconsinEricI don't, and I build Hondas for a living. Honda needs to step up their game. The 2001 ITR competed directly with domestics in a straight line, and on a track. Today, the CTR has sold waay waay too many to be as special and exclusive as the ITR was. It's just a way to get Honda fans and dealers to jusyify the price on a CTR. Todays CTR was yesterdays GSR/RSX-S. Sure the inflation numbers show that the numbers equate, but technology has moved forward. For the $45k price, they need to switch to a higher performing RWD platform, like an S2000 with 400hp, or AWD conversion as an EVO would be running AND 400hp. The AWD would obviously push the price even higher... but the domestics clearly stepped up their game, while Honda has clearly not. The only reason I'm not a domestic fan boy is because, again, I build Hondas... but come on Honda, quit being a bunch of weenies with excuses!!!

[@WisconsinEric]

@@copperkeyracing6167 I very much preferred the '01 ITR vs the current offerings. In fact the last Honda I built was 20yrs ago and I bought a brand new 0mi B18c5 ITR engine from Honda for my '92 GSR. Every part was factory Honda parts down to radiator and heater hoses. A Mugen 4-2-1 Gymkhana spec exhaust manifold was used to clear the front crossmember as the 4-1 manifolds would require cutting the front crossmember. I do not have any interest in any modern car with infotainment screens or key fobs. Been driving Hondas for 28yrs

[@WisconsinEric]

@@copperkeyracing6167 I wrote a reply half the length as yours and YT auto removed it as I am on their bad guy list do to politricks.

[@WisconsinEric]

@@copperkeyracing6167 Last Honda I built had a '01 spec B18c5 with Mugen gymkhana spec 4-2-1 exhaust manifold. That was 20yrs ago I still strongly prefer the '88-'01 Hondas to the current offerings. Been driving Hondas for 28yrs

[@KeanF84]

Needs a lap battle to even things out. The FWD civic typeR is especially made for lap times. But we all know this.

[@KeanF84]

@@noirrain6005 yeah thats true!

[@BigTimeRushFan2112]

Mustang would chew it up on the track too, and that's the base Mustang, take on a PP or a Dark Horse and total embarrassment is your future.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

@@BigTimeRushFan2112 umm no it wouldn't, the mustang would have ZERO chance against the Honda

[@BigTimeRushFan2112]

@@Georgewashington-o7m LOL. Put down the bottle and go sleep it off fan boi.

[@fritty9927]

@@BigTimeRushFan2112lay off the dream cycles😂

[@ADVRaiderKTM]

What a time to live in, both Americans and Japanese are making some of the most epic cars they've ever produced!

[@ruthlessracing973]

Ok now let's see them do a lap around a track and see how that goes

[@pcihector]

Ike Gaunglet the Prius Prime. Will the battery last all the way up to the tunnel?

[@Vosovogalsyncope]

Get a beater, and a hyper electric scooter to drag race friends on. Youll have money in your account and the dealers will be forced to drop prices, while consumers are still having fun.

[@mexunderground4072]

The happy face when the guy driving the Honda gets into the Mustang and starts driving 🤣

[@copperkeyracing6167]

14:17... there you go. Completely agree

[@eljefe3993]

Shift knob is killing me😂

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

I owned a 2022 Civic-R and as awesome as that car is the 2024 Acura Integra is somehow even better. You all need to get your hands on an Integra and do some videos with it. I just traded in my Type-R for an Integra Type-S and hands down it is better...and has much better seats.

[@my3rdeyewide]

im pretty torn between the two, always wanted the Type-R, what makes you feel that it is hands down better? I did think the back seats being leather helped it be less cheap looking, the front is debatable with the TypeR buckets vs the leather. Aside from that it looked like the Acura was just a toned down TypeR (maybe not as great on the track).

[@Cmobley_]

You have to completely disable traction control in the type R. It makes a big difference.

[@tactical_potato81]

For what the Honda is, it's fairly impressive. Especially on a track. The drag race was, is and always will be inevitable. However, 50k for a Civic is stupid. Also the braking test. I mean come on! Its only a 20ft difference in a car that weighs waaayyy more than the Honda. Cool video guys. Keep em coming

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

20 feet is huge, and 50k is cheao for a car like this

[@oussama4629]

@@Georgewashington-o7m not cheap. yep it's a track ready car with the price to match but not cheap; i should've been 42k 45k max

[@saddist1Gtown]

I don't agree the Mustang would not keep up with the Honda on a winding back road. That car is now so refined and well-engineered it is like the European sports car more like

[@williammodlin2621]

I would like to know what mode you were in for the brake test. If you were still in track mode, that could make a difference (negative).

[@ErinAndrade-x1e]

How is this possible my g37 keeps up 1st 2nd and 3rd with the stang

[@TacoCrisma]

It doesn’t. VQs suck. No one cares.

[@stang-rv4pb]

For all the people who claim the Mustang is only good in a straight line, and can’t turn or stop, check out Car and Driver’s “0 to 150, to 0” test. The Mustang DH came in 2nd in braking from 150 mph, at 569’, compared to 674’ for the Civic type R on the same test. Only the Porch 911 GT3 RS out braked the Mustang.

[@Marbind]

Throttle house ran a GT with PP in their track and was slower than the integra. The additional power is no match to the superior handling of the silly compact. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@C10sRule]

Nice launch Kase!! You really know how to actually launch a manual!!

[@jp23x]

But the civic isn't drag racing lol for 50k it better be good at everything. Let's keep this shit real

[@SWEETDREAMS_MF]

I have to say, I wish they had changed the 10 speed. Its good, but when tuned, it gets a little jerky. It doesn't feel as smooth as a 6 or even 8.

[@jean.carlo.furtado]

Essa comparação foi ridícula! Potencias muito distintas…. Deveriam compará-los numa pista fazendo o circuito completo! Não entendi o objetivo do vídeo! 😂

[@curtism-w6b]

Silly question for any real man. 4 doors or 2? Always 2, 4 is 2 too many to be cool. 4cyl or V8 "I like JDM cars and..." lame. V8 always.

[@19hundoc47]

Spoken out of true ignorance. Congrats. Good drive a Type R, I promise you’ll change your mind

[@curtism-w6b]

@@19hundoc47 shut up.

[@19hundoc47]

@@curtism-w6b lol. Nice suit. Looks like it’s made out of hotel drapes

[@curtism-w6b]

@@19hundoc47 it's made of merino wool and is from Sak's Fifth. That's what happens when you go to school and don't drive a civic. You get nice things and women. 😂 go bathe and get a better job 😂

[@eag8999]

The CTR wins. One point that isn’t mentioned often, the CTR resale is miles above the mustang.

[@Carguylogan]

The Mustang was 13.6 @ 111? That doesn't make sense, my GTI does 13.5 @ 108 mph at 5800' with a junk 2.5 60'. How did that mustang with a good launch do a 111 mph trap but only a 13.6?

[@mtb4l673]

The civic type R needs to be retired. All other manufacturers have caught and surpassed this vehicle, years ago. Price is stupid and not worth it

[@COne-qu2pf]

Your both idiots. You don't understand refine engineering. You just want cheap pos autos that drive straight fast.

[@KC-lg8qf]

When was the type R ever about 0-60 times? You buy RWd if you want to drag race. It's a fwd corner carver.....a track weapon.

[@totov7673]

@@KC-lg8qf 😅 No you dont buy rwd for drag race you ither buy awd or fwd for drag race.

[@KC-lg8qf]

@@totov7673 AWD maybe..... definitely not fwd. That's ridiculous.

[@YehoshuaCapputo]

That civic is stock that's why it won't catch up with the mustang it needs to be modified it don't suck

[@TheOutdoorBeerReview]

I personally still don't get why anyone is getting all wet in the pants over a Honda Civic... esp at $50,000 USD. Absolutely hilarious how seriously people expect to be taken driving those around when in reality its still a boy racer hatchback that should be in the low 40s

[@jp1087]

I could say the same thing about the Mustang, they aren't anything special. The only people I see driving them are the same ones who buy Camaros and Chargers - wannabe drag race posers who think they can impress people with the exhaust and try to pick up chicks at sideshows. I wouldn't buy either one.

[@Rando31able]

I feel like a the good thing about the mustang is you can option it out to kinda do anything you need. Where is the type R is kinda you just get the type R package and that's it. Great car but I do like the the Mustang a little bit more for some spirited driving.

[@chefdred1111]

How about try to race the type r with the mustang eco boost?

[@davidtennien2806]

They are at altitude as well. At sea level it would have been worse. The Turbo'd car makes its own atmosphere. Also the Mustang is not a PP car. Tires are everything in a braking test.

[@sun_keys]

hey I need help... this dude is telling me he can go 280mph in his corvette c8? is it possible?

[@WattWerxPEV]

Yes all models

[@flea4061]

Anyone who says "horsepower wins drag races" doesn't know what they are talking about.

[@themystx2]

The golf R would’ve been a better match from a dig for that mustang.

[@728GT]

I love me a good FWD hot hatch but 50k for one hell nah.

[@stevebrule6172]

what boots are you wearing?

[@i.d.6492]

The type R is in G70 3.3t and Stinger Gt territory and those cars 10x better. True awd or rwd.. Way more power and list goes on

[@dacollecta2000]

Civic: back seat. track readiness and mpg is a positive... Mustang: power and looks. Too different to be compared.

[@Nowt117]

Mustang also sound

[@i.d.6492]

Idk how they even compare beautiful V8 to overhyped family civic. MUSTANG ANY DAY ALL DAY ❤️

[@oussama4629]

beautiful V8 with an auto trans ? yep definitely beautiful

[@Nowt117]

​@@oussama4629yah enjoy your engine that sounds like a lawnmower

[@oussama4629]

@@Nowt117 fast nippy light powerful and with a manual. all of this makes a good driving experience

[@carculturenation2166]

need to rsce the mustang and type R up and down the ike come summer amd i bet mustang would b back down ordering lunch and probably finished with said lunch lol

[@APS_Inc]

The real fantasy is that you definitely can't find the Civic for $45k; I'm guessing getting the Mustang at that price is also impossible.

[@dgm2c]

what some of you ppl don't understand is civics are for TRACK not for the strip if you were to go to a track and you test drove both you would probably take the civic

[@BildoBaggin]

This comes in at 2nd place to the lastest Hoonigan "This vs That."

[@jasonlowery2935]

Compare the Honda to an ecoboost stang with the performance track pack. That would be fair.

[@leezananny2639]

Too bad an ex Stig couldn't compare their times on a track where HP, weight, suspension, tires and handling all come together.

[@francoisrivard893]

Interesting comparo. Not really fair to compare the steering / handling /braking of the Type R on Pilot Sports against the GT on all seasons but here goes. The GT stands for Grand Touring which is what 95% people want (53,159 Mustang GT's sold in 2023 vs 3,315 Type R's) They like the image of a sports car but want a cushy / quiet ride. For the rest of us you can buy the performance pack handling kit from Ford Performance for 1,400 bucks, let's call it $2 grand with install. You said you paid 42K for the GT + 2 grand that's $44K and cheaper than the Civic. Braking? Just swap in a set of sticky tires when the originals wear off and spend 300 bucks on higher performance brake pads. Done. As for the rest, We all know the Ford is heads and shoulders better than the Honda. As is, the GT will smoke the Honda around most road courses anyway.

[@eljefe3993]

The Type R is not for drag racing but hey it does make better MPGs than the stang 😢

[@Z71-o5x]

I'm not a Honda fan boy, I drive a Superchrger Silverado. Just talking facts and truth. Nothing g to brag about on the Mustang. It has a v8, 5.0, and way more hp, and that's all you can do. Lol. Not to mention, honda uses less gas and will mostly last longer!!!

[@jl2581]

People love to talk about how the mustang is priced at 40k but fail to realize that really there’s a hidden 20k you’ll have to pay for in the future. That is, when it loses traction and crashes into a tree or just breaks down. 😅

[@gayratman92]

The civic will never be a straight line car, but take it on a track and it will smoke most cars because that is what it is made for.

[@jtjtrs8806]

Honda days of tunning are over , where it was room for improvement and people on a budget could throw in some mods and make power

[@eduardocorrales5093]

The civic type r FL5 is not 45k, dealser are asking 15k over MRP 😢 so thats a bad comparison

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

It has diminished to $5k or less. I still refuse to pay over MSRP.

[@Nowt117]

Typical mexicans that rather buy a 4 cylinder to save gas

[@Mercipher21]

It's fun watching so many opinions that are all convinced they're right, flying around like ping pong balls that end up falling flat, ultimately getting lost in the interwebs, serving no purpose. 😆

[@dannyoconer6645]

Civic has more space way more comfortable and turns without hitting the crowds 😂