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[@Saberspark]

What did y'all think about the movie? I'm legit curious to hear from folks who didn't like it. Like people can like or dislike WHATEVER they want but social media discourse is akin to dumping gas on the fire and it's getting old

[@flippyxflaxyandwulfredoxjo4563]

Ok

[@brokeboi3078]

It was kinda cringe but I enjoyed it

[@UltimateDragonX9999]

The film was alright but I did enjoy mostly about red panda.

[@kaztoons3982]

I haven't seen the movie yet

[@That-random-person-again]

Sometimes it made me cringe, but mostly because it reminded me of my own childhood-

[@memorian8472]

Honestly, the strangest thing I've seen about this film is adults saying that children shouldn't watch this film because it features and discusses puberty....a thing...THAT AFFECTS CHILDREN. My only guess is that some of the adults are actually guilty of what they're afraid of this movie reflecting in themselves. But at least Mei's mother actually tried to discuss her 'red peony blooming'.

[@toastyhotdog6505]

turning mid

[@Panda-cute]

I was laughing so hard at that scene, it was so awkward and hilarious. And honestly I really appreciate pixar including it as I cant remember a single pixar or recent animated movie that's ever acknowledged puberty and periods

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I think it's because most responsible parents would like to tell their children about puberty themselves... not let a movie do it.

[@Aorchid]

@@SwiftNimblefoot why though. this movie specifically only touched on periods not on all the other stuff that comes with it. I think it might be a good way to start yk

[@jmaes7735]

@@SwiftNimblefoot but 1) this is the type of movie you watch with your kid 2) it starts a conversation

[@sleepywitchcrafts]

With the whole red panda period thing, the director actually said that she wanted to do red pandas more because China and Canada 's colors are red and white. Which to me seems ten times funnier.

[@sakurashy8492]

Which makes it more unique since black and white pandas are usually the traditional animals representing China.

[@fernandovazquez1594]

That makes sense especially now that Canada is a communist country just like China. 👍

[@guy-sl3kr]

@@fernandovazquez1594 God, I wish.

[@EquinoxGT]

@@fernandovazquez1594 I'm certain you feel like you came off very intelligent here, but alas, twas not.

[@SBaby]

I thought it was because they didn't have permission to call it Teen Wolf 3.

[@Swifly_Norman]

Why is nobody talking about the scene when the dad is making dinner and the food is all zoomed in and stuff. It just looked so beautiful, just an absolute chef’s kiss

[@hufflepuffleshuffle]

Dude. The lettuce leaves they show that had the water droplets on them? That visual was super satisfying to me for whatever reason. 🤣

[@7bvbyyrissa]

!!!!

[@PoggusAmogus]

That scene hits different

[@joeyjerry1586]

Seriously, that is some of the most beautiful looking animated food I’ve seen

[@catdragon2584]

If you listen very carefully during that scene, you can hear the animators flexing

[@jbcatz5]

The whole period scene perfectly exemplifies Ming and her attitude to Mei. She thinks she knows what’s going on and thinks she all the answers because she genuinely believes she’s doing what’s best for Mei, but because Mei isn’t being open and honest she doesn’t realise she’s got an off reading until faced with something about her daughter at the worst possible time for Mei. She’s ultra prepared, but for the wrong thing.

[@eggheadsanonymous9634]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYmYgIt3oq9kj8k Turning Red Memes!

[@lisnotliz7487]

Perfecto explanationnnnnnn❤

[@jexalinne5959]

*ultra* prepared i see what you did there

[@lucyandecember2843]

@@jexalinne5959 😂

[@Lil_Devil]

The part where she found her mothers younger self crying really hit me. That whole scene where she leads her mother through the bamboo, and almost heals her mothers inner child is so deep, and so well done.

[@Aureaun]

Yes!! That part was super impactful and a lot of people gloss over it

[@kristineilochi4615]

I was BAWLING on that scene!😭😭😭

[@Selilokie]

@@kristineilochi4615 me too

[@not_obsidian]

@@kristineilochi4615 I cried like 5 times and it was all during those scenes😭😭

[@FeyPax]

I did actually tear up then. I wish it was more explored with her confronting this side of her mother and her mother having to come to terms/peace with her child self/ heal her inner child.

[@Paola-gt4dl]

I love how there are people saying that kids shouldn't see this movie because it's too "mature" but The Lion King and Tangled are perfect movies for kids even if they have murder, kidnapping and abuse in general, like "murder is ok but the mother asking if her daughter had her first period is just too much"

[@killerdragonark1128]

Let’s all say it, people! DOUBBBBBBLLEEE! SSTTTAANNDAARRRDDDSS

[@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans]

DOUBLEEE STAANNNDDDAAAERDDDSSS

[@lorettabes4553]

@@killerdragonark1128 DOUBLEEEE STANDAAARDSSS

[@juicyparsons]

I thought Mother Gothel was showing an extreme side of parenting....but when that's the REALITY for so many children....I can imagine movies like this help them feel less alone. there's this idea that we shouldn't show kids the ugliness of adults but they experience that sh*t in real life I'd rather they had some mass media reflective of their situation instead of pretending all kids' lives are simply rainbows and butterflies

[@stelavatyasubs4207]

“BuT pEriOdS aRe gRosS 🥺🥺😡🤮”

[@ItsBofu]

I saw a lot of parents my age (mid 30s) criticizing the movie for portraying a "rebellious" child not getting punished. The fact that the child was completely obedient to a fault and only "rebelled" after her mother traumatized and humiliated her, and constantly belittled or dismissed her interests, didn't really matter to them - the child "misbehaved," so they needed to be punished! Says more about how terrible they are at parenting more than anything about the movie.

[@dreamingahopefuldream4439]

Yeah for real, that just says more about them as parents than anything else. Kids rebel for various reasons, especially when they are being abused. Maybe instead of wondering why your kid 'rebels' against you, learn why you're bad as a parent?

[@andre21198]

Well the adults that are mad at that detail were raised like that. You act out, you misbehave, you get punished, eventually. The reason why you break the rules is utterly irrelevant. I was raised the same way.

[@Panda-cute]

these are the people who maybe shouldn't have kids tbh. if you have a kid and expect them to be your little robot slave, that's disturbing. it's like they dont care that the mom is in the wrong here. it's good for kids to have their own minds.

[@washedblue]

it's crazy to see that take, like they completely missed the point and didn't even watch the movie. it's meant to be relatable to all folks but aside from growing up, it is largely about Asian parenting (particularly 1st-3rd gen) and generational trauma. the culture matters. her mom's supposed to be a dialed-down "Tiger mom." the only time Mei openly disobeyed her was taken personally and she completely lost it which is realistic. her mom repeatedly embarrassed her (wasn't trying to be awful but showed she did not care about her daughter's feelings or considered her perspective), didn't respect her choices or trust Mei's judgment (shows in her comments and judgment of her friends), wants to be close but doesn't allow her to be honest or set boundaries, makes her feel like a bad person for her interests and being her age, had unreasonably high expectations, and basically everything she did made it very difficult for someone that young to be open and honest with her parent. if her mother wasn't allowing her to breathe and be human, especially at such an age, it's not surprising she eventually rebelled (or felt solace with her friends) and Mei wasn't exactly out there drinking and being a parent's worst nightmare. she also felt remorse for it. the sad fact is that many Asian parents *would* double down like that audience wants but it would inevitably cause issues with their relationship and the kid's growing psyche. like did they not watch the movie at all?? especially finding the mom's fractured self in the forest? and it unfortunately doesn't always end nicely like with this family but starts the cycle again once they have children or causes irreparable damage... which the movie somewhat shows with the mom and grandmother, that I guess those viewers fell asleep for?

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

@@Panda-cute No, kids raised like that turn into little coddled tyrants who are uncapable of existing in the real world, where there are jobs and responsibilities and misbehaving will get you FIRED or arrested.

[@ianhall7513]

Changing into the panda at school while hiding it from their mother is a classic teenager thing. There are so many things I found easier to tell my friends than my parents. Especially a parent as controlling as her mother. I wouldn’t call that an oversight.

[@tacothursday7364]

Can confirm 👍 It was like being two completely different people, one at school & one at home

[@communistpropaganda3629]

SAME. I am complety out of the closet at school, but at home? Absolutely not.

[@xkkitsu]

I totally agree with this! Plus if you've never been the "rebellious" kid and you're just stepping into these new things, you're not gonna know how to hide that side of yourself. You're gonna be a bit dumb about it because you're just a dumb kid lol

[@callofabyss]

Same, for SO many things I can't even bring myself to tell my mother about my entire online history at this point because it's so much and yet my friends know

[@pokaay3163]

frfr. I could relate to that analogy so much in highschool especially, where I met my best friend and started finding a lot of things out about myself. but did my parents ever know? NOPE, at least nothing I didn’t tell them myself. it’s really a matter of trust and being comfortable opening up around your parents, and for a lot of kids, they sadly can’t do that. because they’re afraid of the judgement they’ll receive. I was afraid, and I was right in the end. I was judged, they didn’t like my friend, and all these new things about me they’d rather stifle. sometimes it’s suffocating having to depend on people that dont like the majority of who you’re becoming.

[@marlofritz9355]

I love how this Pixar movie actually sounds more realistic. When Abby's mom says something sounds like stripper music and when Mei's mom rants about drugs and perverts. Reminds me of how my actual mom and her friends gossip about each other and talk about their own children.

[@EpicBlackflame07]

As a guy in their late 20s I could related to this 100% because I remember having to deal with my strict Asian parents in early 2000s. Having them hover parent constantly and making sure everything was perfect. This isn't about just periods and red like what everyone on twitter keeps saying. This is literally about tradition, family, and change. Not physically but mentally

[@scrubmmm8643]

This man right here... FUCKING GETS IT

[@dn7949]

I wish I had asian tiger parents.

[@glatios]

@@dn7949 Ooh, kinky.

[@loganalvarez2985]

Even the poor hiding place for all the 4 town stuff and showing everyone at school the panda makes sense when you consider the fact that Mei did it, shes an imperfect teenager who would make an illogical decision like this, cause lord knows i made plenty of stupid decisions as a teen while thinking i was a master tactician

[@pearlyp9898]

Yepp, and also, it works especially well if you consider the panda as not just as a metaphor for puberty, but for your 'true self' specifically. Mei got popular when she stopped trying to be so perfect and instead socialized with the kids and had fun with all of them and actually expressed herself. The scene where the kids suddenly see the panda in the bathroom reminded me of one time I was on a school trip, and I decided to dress up nice and cute and let my hair out instead of wearing the boring, constricting old stuff I usually did, and one classmate just stared at me in disbelief, not even recognizing me for a moment. It's that sort of freedom that you allow yourself, that makes other people notice you. So looking at that plot that way, I felt it went really well with the whole 'learning to become your true self' message ^^ And also agree on the hiding things below your bed thing. Kids really aren't the best at keeping secrets lol

[@emigohome]

I absolutely tried to hide my stuff under the bed (and mattress) as a young teen around the same time frame of this movie LOL it's not that illogical for someone that age to think of it as a smart idea

[@BonaparteBardithion]

Hiding under the bed also shows at least a healthy level of trust in her parents. She doesn't trust her mother to approve of her friends and lifestyle, but she does trust her to not go snooping around her room. If she didn't have at least confidence that her privacy would be respected they would have hidden all that stuff at one of the friend's houses. Though confidence was eventually broken that does indicate it's not a regular occurrence.

[@vixxcelacea2778]

Oh heck yeah. When I was a teen I was reading a smutty fan fic and I shut down the browser before leaving for school. I think it saved the last session and my mother saw it and I got told off for it, as if it was any of her business. But my mother sucked and was abusive when I look back on my childhood so I cut her out of my life when I was an adult. The proper response to finding stuff like that is to first off, not go into a persons room uninvited (and people wonder why others struggle with boundaries, it starts with the parents) but if it's in a more public space, like a living room or on an unmarked tape, book, whatever, don't make a big deal about it. Simply let them know that some of their stuff is probably stuff that should stay in their room if it's something that is quite personal.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Unfortunately, I couldn’t hide anything under my bed as a kid, because that space was used for a spare mattress. :(

[@lesyayarmolenko1401]

I was a lot like Mei as a child (minus the top grades). I'd even draw / write what I considered "steamy and hot" in diaries. I'd develop crushes on every cute boy I passed by in the hallway. My friends were crazy over Tokio Hotel and we were sure each of us would marry a member of the band. I was never made aware of periods. I remember starting to bleed one day at school, being terrified, stuffing toilet paper into my pants, and being laughed at by a group of boys when they saw a stain on my butt. When I got home, I hid in the closet and refused to open the door for my mom when she got home because I was scared of what she'd say. Why do we have to be ashamed of something practically every young woman will have to go through? Why not prepare them once they're around the right age? Why not let them know it's okay and not something to hide?

[@BJGvideos]

Oh god. Not telling your kids about puberty should be considered neglect, same as if you never teach them how to read.

[@heymewisconsin7841]

How old were you?

[@heymewisconsin7841]

And what age should CPS should called. Late bloomers/early bloomer are a thing so…

[@TonysewR42YT]

@@BJGvideos how in hell should it be considered neglect?

[@BJGvideos]

@@TonysewR42YT Not giving them vital information like that? That's akin to never bothering to teach them how to read.

[@Kitty6561]

It really is the movie form of “Do not kill the part of you that is cringe, kill the part that cringes” and I love that

[@thealchemistking4063]

I think i achieved this.

[@thepinkestpigglet7529]

It's what I'm always telling people

[@nana-dm5ri]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5aVXmCbgdKliqs

[@geministrial950]

Im going to start living by this

[@matguimond92]

I feel cringe in my stomach so I'll give myself an ulcer then.

[@deathwatcher19]

I love the scene with Mei and her ancestor. The smile she gave Mei when she keep the panda. Her ancestor was happy that finally one of her grandchildren wanted the gift she gave them.

[@bellav7241]

And it’s such a positive twist on the whole notion in families of doing things for the sake of your ancestors. “Your great-xyz went through so much worse you should be grateful!” Etc. It sucks when families imply that your deceased relatives that you’ve never met and never can meet wouldn’t approve of you, especially as a kid where your self identity is already unstable. This is just a long winded way of saying it made me super happy too LOL.

[@tfrs4772]

She didn’t actually gave them the gift, it was just a side effect of her ancestor gaining the power to transform into the red panda

[@saveriannathan1415]

Ahh i forgot her mother quote that said in her (sun yee lee) time the red panda was a blessing and so she must be happy that Mei Mei accept it

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Yeah. That scene feels mythical.

[@99sins]

it reminded me of a common thing asked of patients suffering from survivors guilt and mourning over dead loved ones. Basically if they think those dead ones could be there right now, would they be telling you how you should live your life in this very specific way or would they want you to just be the best version of yourself?

[@mutiniir]

i also wanna point out how theres so much greens and reds used in this movie. Red, of course, is the main color of the movie, while green is the anti red. I like how her mom and the rest of the women in the family are wearing green, symbolizing that they reject their red pandas. Not once have I seen Mei wear green in this movie, it's ALL shades of red so her accepting her red panda in the end was pretty obvious even from the colors alone THERES ALSO THE USE OF COLORS IN THE LIGHTING SAYING SO MUCH AGHH ITS SO GOOD edit: thank u so much for correcting me i literally forgot about the couple of times she wore green ;-;

[@dragonopossum1441]

The closest bit of green she wears is her white and green gym uniform- I only noticed that bc it showed up in the video when reading ur comment

[@HebiHouse]

In China, green is used to symbolise wealth or purity, because they purified themselves of the panda.

[@playvoii4528]

i mean for chinese people, green and red is like a lucky color especially red is their national color

[@cyan-ida4206]

@09CZS about to mention that but u beat me to it i guess :D

[@viviennemorgan7217]

mei has a green clip in her hair.

[@lovefromwonderland]

The fact that people were complaining about the period stuff pissed me off. It’s NOT inappropriate at all. It happens to every girl, and teaching them that is important. That whole mindset of “it’s inappropriate” is basically teaching girls that they should be ashamed of themselves and their developing bodies.

[@EclecticallyEccentric]

It's also teaching parents to parent based on what they find comfortable instead of considering what's best for their child.

[@josephstalin5751]

It’s nasty tbh. Lol ew I don’t want to know about that shit. Would be like bleeding from your pebis like nobody wants to imagine or learn about that

[@shibadawn]

@@josephstalin5751 It's a normal part of life for a lot of people. It's important for everyone to learn about it. What if you're a single dad with a daughter who just started her period. She's terrified because no one told her this would happen. A lot of people think they're dying when they first get their period because they aren't told its gonna happen, and it can be very painful and or a lot of blood. There's also a lot of misinformation about it in general. Sure it's not pleasant, there's plenty of things in life that aren't, but you can't just ignore it.

[@josephstalin5751]

@@shibadawn but I think it’s gross personally so im asking you to respect my opinion.

[@shibadawn]

@@josephstalin5751 I didn't actually focus on you thinking it's gross. I explained why you can't just ignore it and not learn about it, even if you don't experience it. Like yeah, I never said it was pretty or amazing or anything. That would be lying. It sucks, and it is kinda grim when you think about it. I mean, I wouldn't calling shitting or pissing pretty. But it's something that happens and you do learn about those. You're warned about watching out for certain things, like cancer signs. That's important. There are important things to learn about periods too. You thinking it's gross is relatively fine as long as it's not directed at the person going through it and you say it respectfully (which you didn't). But saying 'nobody wants to learn about that' is not only putting words in other people mouths (therefore not an opinion) but highly ignorant. Also I definitely got taught all the 'gross' things that happen to penis's. It was just a part of biology class. Basic anatomy is kinda important to know since most people will experience it that way. Hope you actually try to understand what I'm explaining and listen to it, but that's your choice. That being said, I probably won't reply again because it's not really worth it. Have a great day and try to be respectful of others.

[@littlemisstfc]

I love how this movie makes it clear that it’s okay to be a kid. With how social media, television, and film is influencing this current generation of kids into growing up faster, I appreciate that Turning Red *exists* to teach them to take things slowly.

[@iheartjbgccb]

Like IMAGINE stressing out about not growing into a figure yet and having movies like this to show what your childhood should actually be like :/

[@wolfness27]

I thought that the lessons in the movie was not to give into peer pressure and the reasons that parents should spank their kids.

[@user-ry4eg2mg2y]

@@wolfness27 HAHAHAHHDAHKJ WHERED YOU GET PARENTS SHOULD SPANK THEIR KIDS FROM???????

[@TheCreeperSwagOffical]

Facts

[@wolfness27]

@@user-ry4eg2mg2y well talking and grounding her wasn't working.

[@Sarah_H]

The parents who are shitting on this movie because "this movie is teaching our kids to be rebellious!" are the parents who saw too much of themselves in Mei's mom, and it made them SUPER uncomfortable when the movie said "hey, overbearing parents are bad, actually"

[@bluecrossfire2375]

If they want something so obedient, then they should get a robot.

[@pinkanime_cat1460]

@@bluecrossfire2375 or a dog.

[@GalaxiaStars]

@@bluecrossfire2375 Yeah too many strict parents/guardians expect their kids to act like robots. Being too strict is going to make your kid more likely to rebel in secret and hide stuff from you. There is no such thing as a super obedient kid who's never tempted to rebel unless something's actually wrong.

[@tehyacreates5496]

Therapy could fix their viewpoint

[@zadock6370]

@@tehyacreates5496 therapy only works if you want to change. these types of parents don't want to change. they see their view as supreme and no one is going to change that.

[@littl3d0ll68]

Seeing Mei draw pretty tame stuff and having it considered as “sexy” or “smut” was so hilarious to me 😭 I remember being around her age and doing the same exact thing, even down to drawing that stuff in such a secretive way to keep the imaginary eyes away lmao

[@LuckyVine]

It was heavily implied that she drew more explicit stuff than what is shown. How did you not get that?

[@soulcream2388]

meis full notebook is actually shown on the official turning red artbook and its actually pretty tame. some of it is just her homework but most of it is just shirtless devon drawings of him being centaurs and mermaids

[@littl3d0ll68]

@@LuckyVine How can you not get that I was basing my view of that on my own experiences? A lot of the time what’s considered as “explicit” when it comes to something a child made is greatly exaggerated, especially to the child themself or their overly-protective parent, so the other things she drew could very easily go in either direction, and frankly isn’t worth debating over

[@Hesadryt]

With you 100% on this topic. People having the same overblown reaction that the movie is poking fun at the mom over are really missing the point. 😅

[@Hesadryt]

@@LuckyVine it’s not. The movie is poking fun at the mom for overreacting (as evidenced throughout the movie with her getting upset at a pre/early teen boy bands “gyrations”).

[@BarnabusBarbarossa]

The idea that a movie about things that roughly half of mankind goes through at some point is "unrelatable" is so laughable. Besides, you don't need to have personally experienced a thing to be able to emphathise with it. I may never have had a period, but I can still have empathy for someone going through those changes. Just like I can emphathise with the shock of turning into a red panda, even though it's not happened to me.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe they just don’t think it’s appropriate for children? Like… I don’t think any children’s movie ever depicts male reproductive functions.

[@harveyhaslostit]

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster I've already seen it mentioned that yes, this actually a problem. The realistic and child appropriate depiction of male puberty is barely covered by media. Which of course sucks, but it's not like female puberty has media like this either. I really don't understand how one might think it's not child appropriate. From what I've heard, it seems perfectly fit for children. More so than many other pieces of children's media.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

@@harveyhaslostit If it helps, the reproductive system is at least covered in educational media aimed at kids, and it’s done in a way that kids will understand and not want to seek out any weird sex acts. Hell - as a kid, I remember being confused why people *enjoyed* having sex.

[@DancingTiger]

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster The movie only mentions that it exists and make a joke about it. It's not like it shows it or something

[@dragonninja3655]

As a girl, I didn't find this movie to be relatable. But I was never into boy bands and it just seems weird people are getting so excited a period was brought up in this movie. I don't care that it is in there, it just isn't anything special. I kinda just found all the characters annoying. I also didn't like that no one reacted realistically to the shape shifting child in what is otherwise normal earth. Unless canadians are way weirder than I thought they were.

[@roo_boi900]

A part in the movie that shocked me in a peasant way is when Mei first transformed into the panda and Ming brought her pads thinking she got her period. She even said the word “Pads”! The fact the movie didn’t try to censor it by simply implying that it was a hygiene product with women’s health being so stigmatized was such a breath of fresh air

[@Nortarachanges]

Same! Especially since she brought a variety ^_^

[@jestphoenix]

the variety got me too... i didnt even know scented pads existed

[@Krlytz]

Same here! And then in the school scene we even see one of the packages in a close up. I was so shocked in a pleasant way, like, "omg a Pixar movie is actually ACKNOWLEDGING this is a real thing". And I love them for it.

[@Joltik-cr6iv]

@@jestphoenix the variety was very nice except the scented pads; scented pads are really dangerous and harmful so that was my only gripe with that scene lol

[@oppi-hop]

same here lmao. come to think you rarely ever seen depictions of pads or tampons are just regular hygiene products people use in film and tv. love the fact that they depicted it as a normal part of life :D

[@DoctorScienceMan]

As an adult male, I REALLY appreciate what this movie is doing and teaching. It took me an EMBARRASINGLY long time to learn basic stuff about periods and what women go through, and it would have helped ME out in my teenage years if I actually had a better understanding of what girls went through in that time.

[@devindalton4688]

Godzilla had a stroke reading that first sentence and fucking died

[@DoctorScienceMan]

​@@devindalton4688 Godzilla lives thanks to the internet power of "basic spell checking done only after you make the statement" (Thanks for letting me know I needed to clarify what I meant a little less horribly)

[@devindalton4688]

@@DoctorScienceMan All good, lol.

[@PatientBean]

I went to a private school and I NEVER learned how the female body works. Hell, I barely learned how the male body worked. It was an embarrassingly long time for me, as well, to learn about all of that.

[@ToHoldNothing]

If anything, people blew that aspect out of proportion, like 2-3 times at most just Ming bringing up pads, while Mei and seemingly none of her friends have gone through puberty (maybe Priya, she had backup pads, iirc)

[@redwings13400]

"Were you ever a teenager?" Honestly, I work in schools, and I'm not fully convinced most administrators at schools have ever been kids or teenagers. No idea how else to explain some of the decisions I see on a daily basis from the adults in the room. So you might be on to something here as to why people don't find this movie relatable.

[@biohaxxerd6154]

It's like, " periods are distracting, let's ban them during school hours! Makes sense right? "

[@redrocket8062]

I never had the pleasure of being a teenager.

[@FeyPax]

God too many adults/ peers I’ve come across act this way. I’m 23 and some people already start acting as if they’ve never been a teen/child.

[@sedonachapman]

I worked as a paraprofessional, it was k-8th grade, and none of the admin knew how to treat the teenagers, or the troublesome 4-6th graders. I was 19 at the time so it was super easy for me to talk to them. All of the other adults told me to just hand them referrals and send them to the office to be dealt with. All I had to do was come up to them and ask, " why are you doing that, man?" or "hey, that's stupid, and its going to get you hurt." I swear if they just treated the kids like people instead of problems they wouldn't have any.

[@zakeer2342]

I think the reason why these sorts of people don't understand what it's like to be a teenager, is probably because they were treated as if they were adults who should know better rather than teenagers who are likely to make mistakes as they were growing up. And while does not make their behavior justifiable, it does make sense.

[@kesselrunner]

Yeah, my teenage years were spent in silence. I internalized everything until I was 19 and it destroyed me. Still picking up the pieces 20 years later. I'd like to see them make a movie about that.

[@samovarsa2640]

Hey there fellow horribly emotionally regressed and damaged person by having internalized all the social pressures into not ever being an individual person

[@kesselrunner]

@@samovarsa2640 I actually managed to translate all the internalized social pressure into a sense of purified non-conformity, ie: the world literally had nothing for me, so why bother trying to follow it? It didn't help that I was going through the process of being in love for the first time. Wanting to be a part of somebody's life while at the same time not wanting to have any interaction with the world. Yeah, didn't end well. Heart crushed to pieces, soul torn in two... It wasn't pretty.

[@samovarsa2640]

@@kesselrunner sympathies

[@kesselrunner]

@@samovarsa2640 Thanks. It took me way too long to be able to put my past under the microscope and see it from an objective standpoint. Even now, twenty years later, I'm still rediscovering bits and pieces of myself that fell to the wayside back then. It's always a bit of a joyous occasion to remember something that was lost, though. On the whole, I've made considerable progress.

[@umamifan]

No.

[@Rainjojo]

My mother hates the movie because mei “is disobedient and ungrateful.” In her words but in the movie this girl has been nothing but hardworking, grateful and obedient to her overbearing mother. A red flag i had of my toxic mother was that she would’ve beaten mei if she acted like that and her mom was only trying to protect her. Now she wonders why I don’t talk to her

[@liviwaslost]

Damn

[@oliverdelica2289]

Brutal 😶😶

[@jessicaHcat]

I've seen comments about Encanto that are similar too. Someone said their dad said Mirabel is ungrateful and shouldn't be complaining because her family put a roof on top of her head. So many abusive parents (mentally and physically)!

[@akiterutsukishima3428]

The thing is that some parents shifts the blame onto their children rather than addressing it and talking to them about it. I use to be depressed I was diagnosed with it, all my parents did was simply ignore it and say shit like, “I do all this for you why aren’t you happy?” And the only person that actually talk to me about it was my little brother because he is going through similar things. What I’m say it that parents need to stop seeing things in their own perceptive and open their damn eyes up. Hitting someone is NOT the only type of abuse there is! Why can’t some people get that through their thick skull?

[@toastyhotdog6505]

@Jack Roosevelt turning mid

[@Squish_Squash]

I fell in love with this movie so quickly as soon as Mei and her friends were introduced because it felt for the first time teenage girls were actually represented as teenage girls without trying to cover up or hide the "cringe"; like I started writing fanfiction when I was 12 and had obsessions over really niche interests, and they were large parts of my teenage-hood. I also found the part of hiding those things from your parents relatable too, because I did the same.

[@aqua2poweros699]

Yeah the cringe in this movie is honestly more reasonable since its a movie bout teenagers. Complete opposite of the use of cringe in the Emoji Movie

[@pinkanime_cat1460]

I love how it's showing the "pre-teen" stage even, I feel thirteen is around that. I feel that kids these days are skipping that stage. I remember shopping at justice, playing with dolls, and all that when I was 13. It was awesome

[@jbcatz5]

The crushes also feel like early teen crushes. It’s not dreaming about The One, it’s having the feeling of crushing on someone and processing what it means. We see Mei make the realisation that she’s crushing on Devon, and celebrity crushes are a fact of life. The fact there’s no love interest is refreshing to see.

[@lilliangladue9048]

what kind of fan fiction 😳😼

[@kristien2010]

Some of the fanfiction I wrote back in the day was so horrible. I look back & think, "I thought this was good?" But I was a kid exploring my creativity & feelings. Also, I password locked those stories. Didn't want Mom seeing them. So yeah, that all sounds very realistic.

[@Whofan06]

I laughed my ass off at the whole scene of her drawing under the bed and the mermaid drawings. Absolutely the funniest most relatable part of the movie. And the part that made me cry was Mei's dad telling her that the version of her she's being when she's with her friends when she's being herself made him laugh. I never had that as a kid, my parents thought I was just weird and I couldn't really be myself at home at the risk of being considered annoying. Telling his daughter that that part of herself is a good thing was really important and beautiful.

[@alexsiemers7898]

Like saber said, Mei’s dad really was the MVP given how little screen time he has

[@frbe0101]

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[@Niobesnuppa]

Honestly, as a Norwegian, this outcry online is really bizarre to me. In my country we have children's shows, children's books and children's movies that deal with puberty, and I don't hear anybody here screaming "Think of the children!" Hell, we even have a children's book for like 6 year olds explaining where babies come from, that's actually how I first found out about reproduction when I was a kid. The fact that people are genuinely advocating for keeping children in the dark about what's happening to their bodies when they're like 11 is insane to me, you'd think we were living in the 1800's or something. Most 11 year olds already know every swear word in the book, having a movie that mentions periods isn't going to scar them for life, especially since a lot of them probably already have gotten their period at that age, as was the case with me. This attitude of shame does nothing but make young girls more uncomfortable with and ashamed of their own bodies, because if it's something adults consider to be taboo, clearly it must be something that they should be ashamed of, right?

[@gentle285]

I completely agree with you! I'm not really sure that outside of the USA any of this "being woke" bullsht actually exist. I have never heard that constant whining which is going on online in my country or in Europe in general.

[@akuma7425]

@@gentle285 It actually exist outside of USA, I don't know about other country but the whole "being woke" bullsht is really present in France

[@Sparkletta]

I got my periods like four days after turning eleven, and the only reason I didn't lose my head was because I was educated about it prior. Seriously, having your cycle should be treated as normal as going to the bathroom.

[@avocado3-in-182]

Lmao I got my period when I was 10. Fck them people trying to shield kids out of puberty. They aint gonna stick as 4 years old forever. 🙄

[@pokaay3163]

right??! I wish our states were more like where you live. people really undervalue kid’s perspectives and always speak FOR them. just like meimei’s mother. it’s ironic, really.

[@xxTC-96xx]

I like that they didn’t shy away from certain subject matter with puberty, it was refreshing

[@megamaggotman7025]

Ok

[@Mia-gy9uc]

@@megamaggotman7025 Ok

[@beththegreen]

Periods? Why are YOU shying away from saying periods??

[@michaellavallie3896]

I’m surprised they said pads…which is weird because that’s a normal topic

[@urgae9125]

@@beththegreen I don’t think they’re shying away from periods, I think they’re talking about puberty as a whole.

[@Boon_4444]

I love how openly this movie shows how it feels to be a teenage girl. It only makes sense people would hate on it, because everything teenage girls like/do seems to be the worst thing ever and soooo embarrassing. When in reality, it's all in good fun! And this movie shows it well

[@Panda-cute]

people are so mean especially about the boy band stuff, oof. otherwise, I've seen a lot of love for the film! its great

[@aletanook]

I know some people don't like teenagers and that's fine but the way Mei was acting was nothing compared to some other teenagers they praise like Lady Bird for instance. Every kid is going to fight with and disobey their parents at pretty much all ages but unlike most teenagers, it doesn't sound like Mei has done anything horrible, like she just wants to see a concert. The mom is the one that's being too hard on her. I feel like there is something else going on for this movie to get so much controversy because I have never seen this much controversy over a teen film.

[@lukeh2556]

The more I notice this trend as the older I get, the more concerning it becomes. Like it made some sense when I was teenager, but that there are still some grown men my age focusing on things for teenage girls is weird.

[@Boon_4444]

@@aletanook i don't think most teenagers even do anything "horrible". People just like to demonize especially the things teen girls do, yes they can be hormonal but it doesn't really hurt anyone?

[@aletanook]

@@Boon_4444 By horrible, I mean that they can break laws and just be general assholes to people especially their parents. Like I know kids fight with their parents but teens seem to fight with their parents over everything even the smallest of things and refuse to make any time to actually bond with them. Yeah some teens can be just cruel and abusive like that.

[@faudelgrey5047]

I turned 14 a few months ago, and Turning Red was the most accurate representation of teenagers I've seen in a while. I loved the scene where she -tecnically- writes fanfiction, I mean that's all I did last year so I felt really connected, target audience reached, pixar

[@KatieLHall-fy1hw]

This film was SO accurate about teenagers, with the one exception of some middle schoolers being straight awful to each other (because some of them are pretty bad. Middle school stinks)

[@jaushuagrahamthefloridaman1124]

Dont do that, you will thank me later Lmao

[@freyjacooper9082]

@@KatieLHall-fy1hw I mean they had Tyler, and middle schoolers usually do it all behind eachothers backs anyway

[@Basically_A_Gremlin_Lol]

Omg i know right! The entire movie I was surprised at how honest it was! In the end when Mei says "I'm 13! DEAL WITH IT!!!!" I was literally cheering her on!

[@H3XED_OwO]

I'm almost 16 and but i can't find out what's so "accurate".I distance myself rather than the raging thing or whatever you call it.

[@memandylov]

My boyfriend is a type 1 diabetic and he called me crying when he watched turning red and saw a diabetic character in the movie. That was all it took for him to convince me to watch it with him and it made me cry too, for different reasons. This movie does so much for so many people and even though I didn't absolutely love it the way I love a lot of other newer Disney/Pixar movies, I think it's really important and definitely worth watching

[@Capybaraism]

What?

[@communistpropaganda3629]

@@Capybaraism There's a character in the movie with a patch for type one diabetes on her arm.

[@georgerobertson7010]

@@communistpropaganda3629 which character was that? I don’t remember

[@Biscuity_hole]

@@georgerobertson7010 I'm kinda late, but her name is Stacy Frick. The one with the butterfly clips

[@georgerobertson7010]

@@Biscuity_hole oh now I remember

[@rosepop7997]

I feel like a point often being left out of turning Red is the catalyst for Mei really starting to lie to her mother is that Mei has been doing all she can by her mother for a long time, and the one thing she wanted was to go to the concert and when her mother didn't listen to how much Mei loved it, the dissent really started because Mei felt ignored and no longer saw a point in trying to keep it up anymore. This does boil down to simple "miscommunication" but the girl did a full PowerPoint presentation! It was probably this moment that resonated most with me I suppose, where as a teen you're doing your best to convey yourself and things you love and trying to bridge that gap and it instead is written off as "dumb teenage phase thing". Teenagers have a lot of phases but I think writing them off all together has always been a bad reaction by adults - because one day one of those phases is going to stick and you're going to be the unsupportive parent. Especially when we know that age is all about experimenting and finding yourself. Most teens have that moment, the moment you just snap and question it all. Why are you doing these things? Why are your parents an authority? People tend to focus on the idea as a whole but it was definitely this one act, to me, that really changed their relationship.

[@citroken]

Yes!!! It reminded me of something I did once. I cry a lot but I cried in front of my parents once because they said I couldn't go to a sleepover. I've always been a straight-A student, no drugs, no sneaking out or drinking. And proud of it. I told them I don't even bother asking them if I can do things anymore because I know they will always say no so I always told my friends "I can't" instead of even asking. I was crying telling my mom I never ask for anything so when I asked now it was REALLY important. I was always feeling left out never able to hang out even with girls only sleepovers. Thankfully I was able to do the sleepovers more often with only specific people and as long as I left early 😅

[@esprixx]

this was exactly what I took away from the movie too.

[@skeletonsinscarves3965]

The feeling of being ignored hurts so much, and it literally pushed us to become dumb teenagers that just ended up figuring things out on our own. It's not ideal, we just wanted someone, anyone, to listen to us and help us feel validated in our feelings. That's why I can't get behind these shows and things that force kids and teens to be good, you have to listen to them.

[@Helperbot-2000]

Wait do people actually have phases? I thought that was just a joke!? I havent changed at all apart from taking more responsibilities

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Do they want kids to be like dogs to be obedient no matter what kids gonna want to have agency in their life and do things they want it part of being a human being not all of it can be good it can be minimize but it worst not letting them be themselves

[@chalky2942]

did everyone forget about that one time where Mei's mum locks her in a room with the intent of hiding her there for a month? the following scenes where she's banging her head off the walls, sobbing on the floor and viscerally hating her own body really speak to me as something a lot deeper than 'shes not happy cos periods'. her parents even talk about how "No one can see her like this", "I never wanted this for her" etc etc - definitely not the kinda shit you'd say bout natural body developments. I interpreted the red panda as an allegory for mental illness, rebelliousness and the literal 'wild side' to mei's personality that's been suppressed by the adults in her life. I'm not saying that the panda ONLY represents those things and doesn't include periods or puberty, but I think the metaphor stretches way farther than what people are assuming.

[@askatuproductions]

It could be that her mother did suspect that Mei had some kind of "problem" when in reality she was just acting like a healthy child, the same way she assumed her daughter was being molested by the boy at the store and her friends were using her. Mei is a normal healthy girl who's been treated like if there was something wrong with her interests, making her feel insecure.

[@WileyCylas]

Or disabilities, be they physical or mental 🥰

[@harpoontheinkyloric3703]

as someone who sobbed their eyes out nearly the entire movie because it was,, half triggering me, i agree. 100%. it spoke to me on such an in-depth level that i had to cuddle up with a friend and cry for a little following the movie.

[@amberace]

I think for many people it respresents different things. For some mental illness. Some going through puberty. The fact many can relate is something special. it doesn't have to be one spefici thing or another.

[@Dandidoodles]

@@amberace Thats what I like about it so much. The panda can represent literally anything that makes you different or feel less than or uncomfortable. Because everyone goes through different experiences and the Panda can represent almost anything.

[@GPKatai]

In all honestly, I think that if a boy doesn't know about periods there is a problem. People forget boys may have wifes, girlfriends, friends who are girls, DAUGHTERS! The complaints I see about moms freaking out that their boys now have questions is DUMB. Your boys should know in an age appropriate way. Its a normal function. Its IMPORTANT.

[@booopoop9767]

so true

[@milokonna]

Funny thing is, if they already hit puberty, they probably already educated themselves about woman's anatomy on the internet, under theirs parent's noses.

[@AnonimusQualquer]

@@milokonna and the sad part is that if they don’t have a minimal guidance on the Internet, they will learn a lot of wrong things about woman’s anatomy

[@cintronproductions9430]

Exactly, periods are normal!

[@themanwithoutaplan9389]

@@PeyPeySupreme The “online learning” they are most likely referring to is Pornography, which can often cause destructive or harmful views on sex, women, and relationships. Long story short, most porn is fictional and is not a guidebook to the human body especially for younger adolescents. That’s what they mean by “Wrong Anatomy” not that there is a problem with women’s anatomy, but rather incorrect information on women’s anatomy.

[@puppetpawss]

Something I love about Priya is her monotone voice. It's most likely because she's supposed to be the goth girl of the friend group, but I love how she's portrayed as having a monotone voice and isn't villainized or made out to be weird because of it. Generally depending on my mood, my voice often fluctuates and can become monotone when I'm in more of a depressive or bored state. And I'm often criticized by my parents for showing "disrespect" or "acting like I'm bored" when I'm not trying to be, it's just how I sound at that point and time. So I like that this movie normalizes a character with a flat voice.

[@vismattress5760]

People complaining about the “too mature themes” need to understand that it’s accurate as hell. Sorry parents, your kids talk like this.

[@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4777]

I have 2 sisters and a mother. Periods are just talked about sometimes lol.

[@dimples9746]

same people probably complain about animation being seen as childish

[@samfinnell6070]

Imagine if this movie was made to just please parents, it would of ended with Mei being an obedient child lmao

[@cadekachelmeier7251]

The world would be a better place if every 10 year old knew what a period was.

[@citroken]

@@cadekachelmeier7251 fr I got my period when I was 10 so when her mom said it seemed too early at 13 I was surprised lol. I ran out of the bathroom excited yelling "IM BLEEDING!! :DDD" and wanting to show my mom LMAO

[@johnmccarron7066]

This was an unapologetic, aggressive and endearingly honest movie. Definitely a good watch, and worth a couple of rewatches: so many fun little things crammed into the background, and so many delightful animation quirks that pop out...it's a delight.

[@waspshower]

It's like Pixar tried doing anime

[@angeleprincess]

@@waspshower what 💀

[@candlaze_9805]

@@waspshower is it bc the mc is asian 😐

[@waspshower]

@@candlaze_9805 no it's at the start they did the sparkling eyes and throughout the movie I belive. It's 3d anime

[@lovemeh7899]

@@waspshower you mean it has over-exaggerated expressions? I find those aspects charming

[@comettamer]

I watched this shortly after it came out. I thought it was pretty cute, and the mother/daughter dynamic going from obedient to rebellious child over the course of the movie was interesting, especially with the use of the red panda as a metaphor for changing. The hiding of things (money and information) under her bed felt so real because Meilin was doing exactly what a lot of kids do at that age: try to hide stuff (physically and mentally) from their parents, because they're terrified of what the reaction will be. Overall, super cute movie that is worthy of re-watching.

[@ashleypisarts]

I related to this movie a lot!! The red panda is a metaphor for change, agreed! (Spoilers) Mei keeping her panda is symbolism for how she chose to embrace the changes and her inner “beast” instead of hiding it and putting it away (like her family did and wanted Mei to do).

[@MrPastorKev]

I agree and I think it is definitely worth researching because there are a lot of things you probably missed at first

[@YujiUedaFan]

The red panda metaphor loses its point by the end of the movie though. Everyone decides to hide their red panda personas despite the movie being marketed as needing to embrace it.

[@comettamer]

@@YujiUedaFan everyone except Mei of course. Which was the point. She decided to embrace it and break tradition. But it's not surprising her mother and the rest could not, as keeping it suppressed was a thing very heavily ingrained into them.

[@nitzan3782]

Merida was 14. She was adultified due to being a princess. And yes, every teenage girl had a moment where her getting a period was revealed to her peers. So Ming running up to the school with maxi-pads was 100% relatable and something that need to be represented.

[@ivorynk752]

I thought she was 16

[@Coolnerd89]

Turning Red is well worth the watch. If you can relate to a clown fish, a talking car, and a superhero, you can relate to being a teenager.

[@HawtyHaven]

Facts

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

A furry*

[@DaesoTheOne]

Fr tho

[@HawtyHaven]

@@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu what

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

@@HawtyHaven she a furry

[@sunnysanjo]

I think that this film breaking Pixar’s “squeaky clean” image is very good! With that comes way more story and creative potential! We need more films like this to break the mold.

[@absolutefoot4594]

The notebook part though. There's never been anything else that instilled more terror in me than parents looking through a sketchbook or personal notebook!

[@bored8157]

Fr 😨

[@tornadodee148]

IKR how did no one found that relatable, girl or not?? LOL

[@pastelk]

Literally my worst fear

[@VanAkita]

The thing that really made me go "really?" on the reactions for the film was that some parents felt that the period metaphors (and not so metaphors, no spoilers) were inappropriate for kids. People, your precious children will become teenagers one day. You will be forced to talk to a teen who is scared and confused by the development of their body and most likely will ignore you. Kill the stigma already and be good parents instead of complaining about a movie that will probably fill in your job in the future.

[@dimsufferer9951]

My grandmother got her first period at 8. My mother got her first one at 9. I didn't get mine until almost 14 and that was extremely abnormal. The people who don't want their kids learning about periods until they’re teenagers are the dumbest to me because if you don't explain these things to your daughters, they're going to be scared and confused when it first happens

[@elleofhearts8471]

and I can only imagine that if a parent isn't talking to their kids about reproductive changes that comes long with puberty when it becomes relevant for their age group, they're probably not talking to their kids about sex when they become teens either and thats also very concerning.

[@AnomalyArcadie]

I watched this with my 8 year old daughter during her Spring Break and it hit me with way more emotion than I expected. Knowing she’s growing up and puberty is coming and our relationship will soon change. Then when her mother told her she was sorry if she learned to sacrifice her own well being to take care of everyone else, I could’ve sob. Hit so close to home. I have that exact concern for my own daughter. It’s interesting because it’s perceived in animated movies the message is being directed at the children watching but Turning Red holds a mirror up to us parents, telling us to let our kids be themselves and grow into themselves. This isn’t a movie for the 5 year olds watching. Sure they’ll love the cute red panda and the action, but the story isn’t for them. This is for the tweens getting ready to enter teen hood. And for us parents getting ready for that change too. It speaks to both of us. I loved it. I’d love to see Pixar make more movies directed at the older kids. They don’t all have to be for the little ones.

[@Straws_in_Berries]

Well, if you say it like that, I've gotta see it now. I'm a tween so yeth

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

There is definitely a gap in the market for media aimed at older kids. I've noticed the shows that feature more realistic older kids tend to get a more invested following, like Gravity Falls, the Owl House, Amphibia etc.

[@jillmont3342]

@@NotAnotherKuromi if you like this shows you should watch infinity train it’s very good as well

[@tychopanda]

Wish I had this when I was a tween

[@blibbles]

This movie caused my sister and I to have some tough conversations about what we experienced with our family. I was quite surprised about how emotionally closer it brought us. It was a side I'd never heard from my sister. Explaining everything to me that she felt in Mei's place. The hardships we both endured with our mother, and the unique experience we had as half-chinese children. How it shaped us, and what we remembered. I'd not gotten to speak to my sister like that in so long. This movie hit home in more ways than one, and... I'm grateful it exists. I can't believe it was a Pixar film, one that shared our experiences, to bring us closer.

[@silntwaves]

I watched this with my mom and as now I identify as male, a lot of the childhood trauma stuff hit so close to home. She still doesn't accept me.

[@blibbles]

@@silntwaves that was the only unrealistic thing. Our parents will never apologize. My mom still doesn't completely accept me being gay. She tolerates it.

[@silntwaves]

@@blibbles ooo I felt that. Damn. My mom thinks that I'm confused since I have a boyfriend 😐

[@blibbles]

@@silntwaves yeah... I .. feel that. My mom is just convinced I'm just gonna wake up one day and suddenly like girls. My boyfriends are just a passing interest. Nice guys though. I'm sorry about your mother. You have a much tougher life. I hope that even without the generational trauma though, you have lots of happiness in your life

[@silntwaves]

@@blibbles I'm moving out soon. Don't worry about me. I'm happier and doing so much better there days. Sending good vibes.

[@josephperez2004]

"We're companies. We don't actually have ethics. We just want to make money." A hundred thousand times YES! No matter what any spokesperson for a company says, it's always down to this. If a company thinks they can get a better bottom line by being nice to you, they will. If they think they can treat you like crap and it won't hurt their net profit (or even increase their profit), they will.

[@ginak5802]

For real. This is the exact reason car companies leave dangerous things/parts in their designs. They do the calculations and find it's cheaper to use the dangerous model and get sued multiple times for wrongful death than to fix it.

[@pafaccount4454]

Except for the fact that Pixar (a company) is trying to tell these stories. Its like people. Good and bad ones exist.

[@josephperez2004]

@pafa Ccount Pixar isn't trying to tell stories, it's trying to make money. The PEOPLE at Pixar are trying to tell stories and if those stories can be profitable, Pixar will make them. People are good or bad. Companies are amoral, neither good or bad, they just exist to make money. Morality only enters the equality as to how it affects making money.

[@eggheadsanonymous9634]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYmYgIt3oq9kj8k Turning Red Memes!

[@BlackSalamander439]

Literally everyone knows this

[@kitsuujujitsuu4025]

Im a female, and the parts about puberty was literally SO relatable. The whole boy band thing, well, i was never really into them, but my friends were, and it was nice to see that in mei and her friends

[@laraprisma6381]

I also never understood the appeal of boy bands, never understood why so many girls are crazy about a bunch of generic "pretty" boys. I was never a Fan of One Direction, never saw a Fan of Big time rush (I enjoyed their show more)And Especially, I never understood what people my age saw in Jasnten Biber! He was very cheesy and unattractive, his voice was annoying and his music was uninteresting! The part about being unattractive could be because of my undiscovered asexuality at The time, But otherwise I just never understood the obsession with them!!

[@kitsuujujitsuu4025]

@@laraprisma6381 literally I just don't get the obsession with these boy bands and Harry styles and stuff. its weird because a lot of them are my type but i literally just dont feel attracted to any of them 😕

[@rainbowmeowmix]

as a person who grew to be someone my family didn't expect, its a VERY important lesson for kids to learn that adults aren't always right and that we don't have to accept more trauma from our parents just because they're also traumatized. honestly its a similar red flag for me that someone would complain about this movie as it was when some parents complained about Tangled "demonizing" them. my message to parents who see themselves in these overbearing controlling borderline abusive parents is this: hit dogs holler, if you don't want to have your kids grow up and never speak to you again you may want to seek therapy and heal your own damage instead of further damaging your kids. break the cycle instead of perpetuating it.

[@Goldsthar]

Well, first of all, congrats on staying true to yourself, a lot of people couldn't say the same, but I gotta say it's more complicated than that... Parents do know better majority of the time, but if your parents have their traumas and toxic behaviors, I'm afraid there isn't much a kid can do, you just had bad luck with your parents/family and it will destroy much of your life too, there's no much to it sadly... Also kids not knowing much or being smart enough or having enough experience to know what to do or what they want... You need some lucky event to get out of a toxic family as a kid, I don't think it's an issue that can be fixed.

[@rainbowmeowmix]

@@Goldsthar I stand by what I said. Adults can be wrong and kids need to understand that so they don't have blindly accept abuse. When parents tell you not to touch the stove that's a safety issue that's possible to prove, when they pass on bigotry or hurt their kids (wether out of maliciousness or something being wrong in their psyche) a child needs to know that's not right and they're allowed to seek help and generally not accept that as normal. Too many people took the phrase "well I turned out fine" as an excuse and it's fucked. So my statement to shitty parents is still: get therapy and stop taking out your issues on innocent beings that never asked to be subjected to you.

[@makmakg242]

Had that same experience when my parents pulling (empty) threats to force me to vote on Ferdinand Marcos Jr. (some corrupt prick) on Philippines' election day on May or I will be kicked out of the house. I want to vote on Leni Robredo because her track record as a politician is cleaner than other candidates, plus voting for that Marcos Jr. is already stupid when you hear actual facts that he's a crook. Instead I will just lie to them outright that I voted their idolistic martyr. They used to grow up on Martial Law and say its "the golden age", yet they also add that people should remain on inside their houses all the time from that era. This kind of stuff that I can't even control motivates me to have a high paying job in the future and live alone on my own entertainment. No more naggings, no more restrictions, no more gaslighting bullshit. I want my mental disorder meds to fully continue instead of stopping them because "they're expensive" or "you can overcome this on your own". I want to learn how to use a skateboard because I find it fun and they're another good transportation alternative, stop telling me not to do because "its dangerous" when I cant learn how to fall properly and use protective gear. I want to be alone, but have alot of resource to sustain what I want. I don't want to have children and go childfree in my whole living life, but i'm fine with finding a future partner with the same childfree ideals as me. I just want to be free, but it may take years to get what I want. I am 19, but I still feel like a child. "You're a grown adult, act like one" is a stupid statement when there are actual adults who also wished they were as carefree as kids.

[@Laticia1990]

" we don't have to accept more trauma from our parents just because they're also traumatized." slow freaking clap dude. Between Encanto and Turning Red I always see how the daughter standing up to their mother would go in my world. The mother talks abut her own trauma, and the daughter's issues are pushed under the rug. The cycle has to break some day.

[@witchqueen1296]

@@makmakg242 Oh my god. I hope you do get to live independently. That's awful.

[@trifectumart]

I love how the mother never actually looks actively impending and never looks evil, she only does when she gets extremely angry towards the end, it makes it seem like she is just as in the right in her world as the main character's

[@memorian8472]

I really do too. Especially because so many things will want to fall into the mean "tiger mom" stereotype for Asian mothers. And I love that this movie gives a lot of layers to the mother and she is extremely loving and caring, you can tell that while Mei is dealing with a lot of guilt she actually still does love her mom and wants to make her proud and loves being around her. Like I loved the scenes with them at the temple because I was like "awww, I love that there is conflict but the relationship is still filled with love."

[@trifectumart]

@@memorian8472 yeah! it all felt alot more like what they were going for, rather than what disney likes to go for with conflicting mothers

[@RhiannonSmudge]

As someone who went through all the insanity of being a teenage girl, I completely agree with your takes on the journal and period scenes Yes, half of the human population experiences menstrual cycles, people need to grow the fuck up and hooooooooo boy, there are journal pages that I had to *RIP OUT AND THROW AWAY* because they were far too hormonal and cringy, Mei has got nothing on the stuff I secretly drew in 2014-15

[@tim_the_traveler]

I never really understood why people get uncomfortable by such a thing like mensuration, being a natural human process for woman, it would be like being uncomfortable knowing people use the bathroom...probably a bad example, but still. And I do agree that it needs to be better accepted as a natural thing by people, especially by guys who are seemingly the most grossed out by it. As for the journal thing, I can bet most of us as teens boy or girl has our fair share of doodles that would make the toughest of us cringe. I know I was no stranger to it. I can imagine why people are so offended by showing such things in movies as if it never happens or never should happen.

[@krimsonkatt]

@@tim_the_traveler I'm a guy who's drawn some weird crap in my journals (mainly anime fanservice and lewd genderbend) and I regret absolutely none of it. You know what I do regret? My weird ass conspiracy theories and insane rants that I posted online. God, those were cringe...

[@zofi6410]

As a teenage girl, I felt this. Plus my friends of all genders write and draw cringey crap, it's nothing new.

[@Yourpringledealer]

Eeww

[@evilcartoonmoon3370]

Nobody gets uncomfortable and nobody is scared of the topic YOU need to grow up and stop being gross along with media by talking about it all the time, nobody wants to know what comes out of your body so keep it to yourself, yes its natural and it happens but so does poo and I dont want to know about that either

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Critics: This movie is inappropriate and mature because of the period scene! Other animated movies and shows: *has death, blood, and murder* Critics: *MASTERPIECES* Funny how that works...why? Because the main is a girl. These critics are the people who think everything about a woman's body should be kept tightly locked and strictly preserved which is a DANGEROUS mindset. This movie was extremely tastefully done considering its subject matter. If people were more open to topics like this one being talked about, then they'd finally realize that their idea of reality isn't what it seems

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Or… maybe it’s because the reproductive system in general is considered inappropriate for children? I don’t know about you, but I’ve never seen a children’s movie depict a guy ejaculating onto a woman’s face.

[@HitTheFloor16]

*proceeds to shove sexism into everything* In all seriousness I agree that's a bad mindset to have when it comes to things like this And I guess things in general as well

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

lmao are you just going to casually ignore the intended audience?? this movie is intended for young girls animated movies and shows with death, blood, and murder are intended for mature audiences I appreciate that you used the Oxford comma though

[@Sybil413]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan And kids start getting periods at 9 yo nowadays. I got my first one at 12 and I was the LAST to get it of all the girls I knew. ...how many teenagers will actually experience death, blood and murder before seeing them in a movie? Periods are an appropriate topic for young children to learn about, get over it.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

@@Sybil413 what the fuck? I have no idea about how women's anatomy works, but I assume that's because of the hormones that are in junk food, right?

[@Starchild719]

As a woman raised in a strict but loving household, I relate HARD to Meilin. I was peak cringe, awkward teen girl who drew smut and tried too hard. I think the animation lent to the hyperactive feeling of the early 2000s middle school experience.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Pretty much what I got out of it.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Heck, I’m a young adult male and I STILL relate to this film because of the struggles between Meilin, her parents, and her friends. And I cannot for the life of me see why these boomers cannot relate to ANYBODY in this film, even her parents!

[@muppetpilled]

@@cameronbosch1213 boomers do relate to the parents thats why they hate it so much. they want their kids to obey them by default and think its setting a "bad example" for their kids to see a parent admit wrongdoing

[@evilauthor13]

I liked the movie just fine. I related to it well enough. I was roughly about the same age during that time period, so the teenager themes all hit the right points. It wasn't the best movie I have ever seen, but it was cute. One of the big complaints I saw before going into the film was about how it was "cringe" and "teenage girls don't act like that" As a former teenage girl, I can promise my friends and I were just like that. I think my sister has a home movie of me dancing and singing to the Spice Girls in the same off key excited babble we got from Mei and her friends. If anything, the fact the kids couldn't sing was one of the more relatable things.

[@dreamingahopefuldream4439]

I did a lot of the same cringe stuff growing up. We are all 'cringe' during our teenage years, saying that being a cringey teenager is wrong is really narrow minded. Or perhaps, when people see it reminds them of their past selves and that don't like that? Lol

[@thewhitemexican588]

@@dreamingahopefuldream4439 as a cringe 14 year old I can agree we do cringey things like being furries, playing dnd, quoting memes, roleplay, cosplay etc. Lots of us do cringey things. And the people who don't think we act like this, well I'm living proof

[@simpingfor2d98]

@@thewhitemexican588 Funny thing, you saying that, because I'm an adult and I STILL do many of these things, and a lot of my friends too. I reach the conclusion that the true maturity is reaching a point where you dont care about how "cringe" or how "other people see you" and just do the things you enjoy and be free. As long you are not hurting anyone, go ahead, have fun and enjoy your youth, but dont just forget it and lock it when you reach adulthood. If you still want to do these things, keep it, keep it until you don't need or want it anymore.

[@cinnamonisnice_]

I agree. I could totally see myself acting the same when I was younger lmao

[@dreamingahopefuldream4439]

@@thewhitemexican588 Most of those things are just hobbies, I still do these things at age 22. Unless...I'm still cringe?

[@amberwolf5371]

I watched plenty of "coming of age" stories as a little girl that was centered around boys and they were never criticized as "unrelatable". I can't believe people are making such a big deal about the period scene in the movie. It is so tame! I WISH there had been a scene in a movie like that when I was a little girl as a way to normalize period talk. Instead, I just had to be surprised by it one day at school, bled through my pants, and had to walk around all day just completely embarrassed and not knowing what to do. Little girls deserve to see period talk as normal and little boys can still enjoy a movie and relate to it without everything being directly for them.

[@omrathod1591]

As a guy I agree with you

[@arreis7866]

You're so right! As kids, periods are such an awkward topic because it's treated as something embarrassing and gross rather than NORMAL and NATURAL. And then you have adults getting up in arms when any media attempts to shed light on it claiming it's "Inappropriate". No. Just stop. Don't say that what 9 year old girls around the world are experiencing for the first time around the world is not appropriate. These are probably the same type of people who would let their kids listen to music artists singing about sex and using vulgar language. Hypocrisy on what is and isn't appropriate is everywhere.

[@Tinyfurball]

I guess, yeah. I was in Disneyland when I had my first one. It scared me, but I kept it a secret. I was in Disneyland the whole day. I was 10.

[@blythetaylor4063]

Thank you

[@nobinary2296]

​@@MurakiChiyo Bro. There is nothing for us to be ashamed about and we don't need to have humility for a normal body function. Breast feeding and periods have been around for centuries. Take a look in global history and their cultures. Look at old or foreign art, historical documents, and historical clothing. Where in many cultures and old paintings centered in those times people were very open about their bodies. Look at the Renaissance period. In Japan they even have families who bathe together and some public mixed bathing hot springs. They still have separate ones for people who do not wish to partake. Therefore leaving it up to an individual. Allowing people to be comfortable. Or how about the old settlers and women who had to breast feed and do chores? What about the Greeks and their naked art/open breast togas for breastfeeding mothers/when it got hot? So why in modern society did we roll backwards on that? Why should we be ashamed of something we have been going through since the dawn of time?? We are also very open about mental health and s*x education in our family. Which I am grateful for. It taught me to be more open minded and have more respect for s*x. Not only that but relationships as well. it wasn't something to do because everyone was or for fun. It was serious. We were treated with respect and allowed to have a back and forth with our parents. Treated like people with actual feelings and ideas. Allowed to trip and fall. If my 12 year old brother can know about periods and be fine? So can you.

[@Stervelar]

I also don't get the backlash, I watched it with my brother and we could both relate to her struggles and loved it, the kind of movie I'd gladly watch again. Yes, the period thing is also there, but that's also part of being human and honestly for us, the movie was both an allegory of that and going from a kid to a teenager. I think that the people crying out there claiming that the movie is about disobeying your parents or inappropriate, either didn't watch it, fell asleep and never watched the end... or they watched something else, a lost tape from a paralell universe.

[@freshcorn1431]

I don't understand how people thought that this film would "encourage" kids to rebel again their parents. Like, when has there ever been a film where the kids actually do what they're told? Hell, even DISNEY MOVIES have their young protagonists go against their parents' wishes.

[@Stervelar]

@@freshcorn1431 Yeah! Good point, this is not even close to be the first film or even animated series that present kids doing something against the parents' will. And I think it's reasonable, it's more common than we might think, to have parents pushing their wishes/expectations on to their children (often with good intentions), without considering what their kids actually like/want/expect or by default they consider the young ones can't have a correct judgement for themselves. It's not a surprise to have this as a common topic.

[@the-db9bn]

Minority relatable

[@wildmoonchild8210]

I thought the period part was hilarious!! I'm not sure how someone could be mad at those scenes

[@eshaleemadgavkar]

@@freshcorn1431 Exactly! Mei did rebel against her mother, but the movie treated it as part of life and did not encourage it (as shown in the climax, which is my favorite part of the movie). Ming also dealt with the same treatment from her mother and was unknowingly becoming like her own mom, plus the trauma of accidentally hurting her mother in her panda form. In the end, Ming accepted Mei for WHO she is, and not who she wants her to be (the "perfect little Mei-mei"). She realized and accepted that her expectations were hurting her, although it is understandable why she is the way she is.

[@Fantasmaa9]

The passing gag of Mei running away and stopping and going "AWOOGA!" made my entire group watching the movie have to pause the movie and go "Pixar???????" while trying to breathe through laughter

[@MovieFan1912]

While also tapping her foot like Thumper.

[@Randomrainfrog]

It even got a chuckle out of my mom and that’s an achievement

[@JoNarDLoLz]

That joke really caught me off guard, I choked on my water lmao. I thought she was just gonna do a red panda howl or some shit, the "AWOOGA" with Mei's voice hit me hard

[@ckinggaming5bucketmadness766]

That bit made me laugh

[@JR1cktheSk3tchy]

Say Awooga but flip the w upside down

[@greybunnie]

I feel like having the movie set in the early 2000s also emphasizes that teenage awkwardness with the fashion we had back then.

[@jjlara3695]

Great point!

[@BonaparteBardithion]

It's also what they're focusing on. There have been a few different 90s and 2000s nostalgia movies now, but most of them focus on adult or late teen things. Sit-coms, rock music, the club scene, counter-cultures, the model of cars. I was aware of most of that stuff, but this is the first one where I can point and say "I did that". I had a Tamagotchi. I drew characters on lined paper with big anime eyes. I liked boy bands and didn't admit it because I thought my parents would think it was shallow. I felt grown up because the bus charged an adult fare.

[@maxbrown8044]

I genuinely hate the people who argue that the things which happen in a young person's life are too inappropriate to be in the shows targeting their demographic. That's the precise attitude which does nothing besides alienate and shame.

[@rat3138]

@@Hypnotically_Caucasian fart smella

[@jadecoolness101]

I don't like the idea of portraying teens as se/xual beings in media. P3d0phi1es exist.

[@CyoteBongWater87]

@@Hypnotically_Caucasian take a crowbar to the temple

[@nesskabermudez6576]

@@Hypnotically_Caucasian I got my first period at 11

[@zol5924]

@@Hypnotically_Caucasian having a Pepe profile pic sells it quite well lmao.

[@endanarchy]

The dad made me melt all the time. What a teddy bear. He was so sweet and loveable.

[@Infindox]

A lot of the hate was from parents who think that a kid "finding themself" is the worst thing in the world. I honestly didn't see much hate in my circles, there was a lot of praising the movie.

[@Panda-cute]

yeah the amount of whining about "teaching kids to be disobedient" um, if you want your kids to be perfect little obedient robot then don't have them. otherwise Ive seen tons of love for the film

[@CrackedCryo]

Definitely, my parents watched it with my little sister and loved it. So did my sister; she said it felt like the movie was made for her 😂

[@playvoii4528]

They're probably like Mei's mother, strict and controlling lmao

[@aletanook]

Which is weird considering that many disney movies center around a kid disobeying their parents in some way. I feel like I see a lot of hate for that kind of theme anyway if it doesn't feature an amoral teenager like Lady Bird like I've seen a lot of people hating on Katie Mitchell and Flint Lockwood for doing this exact same thing without understanding their point of view. Like I understand hating on a kid if they're being rebellious to the point of breaking laws and being just general mean people but these characters are just following their dreams that their somewhat overprotective parents happen to dislike.

[@ohmaplaymaker]

The fact that it's one of the message of the movie lmao

[@pchound5962]

Maybe because I'm a guy I actually find this movie even more fascinating, because it's interesting to see the world from girl's perspective. Yeah, I never dealt with female puberty and was never into boy bands, but I could still relate with many of the teenage issues. For instance, I often played Doom when my mother wasn't around.

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

I'm so glad I found so many comments like these because I did read a comment that said: mE mAlE ThErEForE mE cAnT LikE dIs mOViE

[@dragonninja3655]

As a girl, I didn't find the characters relatable at all, but I was never into boy bands or any of that stuff.

[@cyh..7]

Thank you po

[@barricadethedecepticon1350]

Imagine if the movie centered around a boy,the movie would be about either a cute blue puppy or a cute blue wolf pup,and I'd would have called it Turning Blue

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

@@barricadethedecepticon1350 you're right You don't even know

[@m1sl3ds0ul6]

As a teenage girl myself, I almost lost my mind when the mom started talking about periods. No one ever talks about them in children's movies, and they are treated like something to be disgusted and ashamed of in other genres. Hearing it discussed as something simple and open made me almost cry. I remember getting it for the first time as feeling revolted and like a freak. I just felt kind of seen, you know?

[@kuremakurema3084]

That's how I felt too. I paused the movie and cried because when I first got my period, it was so embarrassing and I had white shorts on (I don't wear them anymore) and I remembered feeling like a freak. Idk just seeing the mom being so sweet and casual about pads just made me emotional

[@fridalig7283]

YEEEEES. I started spotting a few months before I actually had my full flow and it was so awkward because i was so young and with a friend that was even younger than me. Kudos to her mom for being really casual about it even though I was only, like, 10. Unlike my mom who kinda made me feel like I couldn't be having it because hers didn't come until she was 14 ;u; happens at different times to different people, everyone. Don't make kids feel weird when their body decides to go turbo on the puberty train.

[@dolrifkdearest]

@Alex Wells Oh definitely. Big mouth is just, imo, glorified Cp 😬

[@geministrial950]

@@dolrifkdearest Oh come the fuck on

[@zamiaramirez1390]

Yeah i remember i kinda had to figure everything out myself. My mom was maybe too casual about? I had stayed home cause i felt off and just weird and maybe about an hour into hiding i noticed i was bleeding and found some panty liners cause i had remembered asking my mom about pads one time and she said girls will bleed monthly cause thats just kinda how it is. She didn’t really know the why and everything just dont use douches and keep yourself clean. She had noticed all the disposed liners in the garbage and put it together that i had gotten my period. Just showed me a pad and that was it.

[@shevabree746]

I watched this movie with my adult sized kids, one of their BFF's and my spouse. We all loved it. I found it totally relatable though my teen years were mid to late 80s and my obsession were big hair bands, not boy bands. I remember being so pissed when I tried to join the Poison Fan Club and my mother threw away the mail they sent me. She said I was going to end up doing drugs or some stupid shit. Well jokes on her. To this day I am the only member of my extended maternal family who has never done recreational drugs and I'm 48. But I still like heavy metal.

[@johnmcfarlane3147]

The introduction of the grandmother was imo, one of the greatest "bigger bad" character introductions I've ever seen, because of how relatable and how believable the mother cowering on the couch was, I'm sure we've all had that one phone call before

[@nobodycares4321]

I couldn't relate. My mother and grandmother raised me and we were very poor. There weren't any familial expectations and every achievement was celebrated, even Cs on my report cards. It was a very loving but small family with very little if any strife. That being said I don't think the movie was bad. I just couldn't relate to it that's all.

[@tiffanyng7599]

​@@nobodycares4321 While you or others can't relate to the movie, stuff like this is important to open our eyes to other family dynamics that other people face on a daily basis. If they made a movie where the family dynamic was like yours, I certainly can't relate to it at all (my family is similar to Mei's) but I would enjoy it none the less if done correctly, and it'd be a learning experience.

[@nobodycares4321]

@@tiffanyng7599 Oh HELL no, if there was a movie based on my family dynamic the actors and directors need to be shot and the film reel burned and hurled into the sun. I'm sure that makes sense for good normal families and shit but not for broke dysfunctional people and nobody should ever glorify or teach that lifestyle. There are things better off not learned. And I, personally, don't care and will never care about anybody else's family dynamic because they aren't my family and will literally never relate to me. Idc about learning about other people because humans are trash. Absolute fucking garbage. No amount of movies will change that. So my opinion on the matter doesn't change. If you want to like the movie then like the movie. I'm just not going to pretend there was anything in it for me. Thats all.

[@justyourlocalcommenter7492]

@@nobodycares4321 Aw that sounds so sweet, I’m happy for you!

[@skylarkblue1]

The period scene is quite funny honestly, it's just so realistic and actually what she mentions helps! So not only is it amusing, a fantastic scene it can also help people watching it

[@aliteralblueberry7837]

@@jago_musica imagine a parent saying that and the kid about to experience puberty that would be dumb. Kids need to understand what’s gonna happen to them growing up and parents can’t hid it from their kids forever, but I feel like most parents saying that are Karen’s

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@aliteralblueberry7837 Or boomers.

[@voreincorporated3056]

@@jago_musica Going through a period without knowing what it is beforehand seems like a nightmare

[@eggheadsanonymous9634]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l32tZH6tjdKEprs Parody of one scene in the movie

[@steammachine3061]

Yeah only forget herbal tea. What you need is raspberry tea. I'd you have uti then try cranberry. And if you have stomach ache or nausea then good old fashioned ginger lol. The only people against any movie the hilights women's menstrual issues are young boys who haven't the first clue how a woman's body works. Loads of those exist on r/niceguys. But that's a very small age demographic.

[@crystalfairy912]

I greatly related to how Mei acts around her mother. I was a late bloomer in the rebellious side of teenager, but we would watch something like iCarly or Hannah Montana having fun. My mom enjoyed it with me, but would make comments over the kissing or relationship stuff like "they're too young." I took that to heart and never bothered with dating or seeking out boys, but now I'm still navigating new things in my current/only relationship of four years. And don't get me started on feeling guilty when I finally started feeling those... hormonal drives.

[@HitTheFloor16]

I kept tapping "hormonal drive" because the way you put three dots after "those" made me think it was "read more"

[@severinelovesbread]

Lmao same

[@LynxRhyme]

@@HitTheFloor16 lmao

[@pokaay3163]

four years is amazing! hope it keeps going strong 💪

[@floofzykitty5072]

There are coming of age stories about boys where underage boys as young as 12 and 13 have explicitly sexual experiences and they are never criticised for being too inappropriate. When I was in high school I even had one such book as required reading in an English class.

[@Fyrsiel]

I was howling for so many parts of this movie, especially the doodling risque art in SUPER secret private(!). I had a Friend Squad in middle school, and we were just as equally ride or die. I'm just a hair older, though, so Tamagotchis weren't a thing until I was freshly in high school, but I sure do remember them! We also all had Sailor Moon OCs lmao.

[@showerpwner]

I felt like my husband didn't understand....but my risque shit was behind a password protected forum after my parents got nosy.

[@floralgem]

Honestly, this movie was really fun! It was refreshing seeing preteen girls act like preteen girl with their fun obsessions with things like boy bands and drawing weird doodles (I did the same except writing!). And hearing that the director drew a lot of inspiration for the film from her own childhood, I was able to feel how personal of a place it came from.

[@nowwhat7202]

I’m just relieved to see that there are so many others that feel the hate towards this movie was undeserved. I personally loved the character dynamics, chemistry and the movie as a whole and am glad that you did a video on the topic. So many people took the movie at face value and moved on even though there was so much more to it.

[@a3r0m3]

Right and the characters reminded of my friends from when I was that age it really hit me hard in the nostalgia passing notes crushing over our emo bands 😂😂 the visuals work so perfect with the movie so glad I am not the only one who thought so

[@jamkat7785]

I don't really see anyone hating on it. Just that it's a mediocre and derivative movie, lacking in any original concepts that other movies like How to Train Your Dragon, haven't already done 1000s over and over before.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Go watch Jesse Gender video on the movie and how the hate is ridiculous

[@Jose04537]

A lot of parents didn't like it because it gave the "unacceptable" idea to their children, that parents can be wrong.

[@introgauge]

I'm beginning to see that it is deserved judging from these comments

[@Nexus_KT]

I absolutely adore this movie. And as someone who grew up with her guardians expecting so much from me, it hit hard. I as expected to be straight, Christian, to go into ROTC and go into the army. To become a doctor or go into a more "fulfilling" career than art or becoming a streamer. And no matter how many times I argued saying it wouldn't be fulfilling if I don't enjoy it, I was always wrong. I went through so much once I became a teenager, and I didn't have a support system. When I went through heartbreak I needed to suck it up. When I was stressed I needed to suck it up and deal with it. It wasn't until my senior year of high school that I finally had enough. And I made me own decisions. I chose my own courses and didn't ask permission any more. And since I chose to leave ROTC, I was making a bad decision and ruining my life (according to them) I want to watch this movie with then, and see how they react.

[@Ich-Existiere-Nicht]

I am proud of you

[@DeadskyAg]

I personally thought the movie was pretty solid, I didn’t completely relate to it as a guy but I thought it was an overall good movie, and the people mad about it because, “oh I took my son to see this movie and he learns about PADS,” is obnoxious, puberty is a really uncomfortable thing, especially for young girls and I think it’s important to convey that it’s natural, not only to girls but to guys as well, I don’t want boys shaming girls for going through puberty because, “oh it’s different than me,” and this movie is a good way to introduce all people to that concept. If anything, I say it’s a solid 8/10 and I recommend it, it can be awkward at times but hey, that’s being a teenager. Also memes, 10/10, hilarious

[@DeadskyAg]

I will add one thing, I did relate to somethings , I may not of related to the problems Mei faced as a girl, but as a teenager, I could easily relate to having people that bullied me, and being embarrassed by my parents, as well as the fear of being controlled by them and not being myself, ignore the fact she’s a girl, some of these things can hit home for everyone

[@dcscruz2970]

Guys who get disgusted by pads but want to bukake a girl like frosting on a cake are the highest hypocrites

[@jarskil8862]

@@Evening2458 I dissagree. The visuals alone make it impossible for this movie to get 8/10 from me.

[@Hylean_Way]

@@dcscruz2970 I don't think boys like that even exist, and even if they did they would be like 14, so talking about bukakes in reference to them is pretty creepy.

[@robertharris6092]

@@Hylean_Way who do you think makes and buys all the bukkake pornos?

[@alinahlamis783]

When the mom found the shirt with the imperfect print (there was a little line of paint that I doubt was part of the panda face), I chuckled because it made me think of them doing their merch themselves using some silkscreen kit, probably used initial funds from the photoshoots to buy materials for the other stuff. I dunno, it kinda reminded me of those resourceful kids at school who make money of whatever, like, selling snacks/candy the canteen didn't allow etc. and classmates all covering each other so the teachers wont find out.

[@Jerepasaurus]

I definitely did that stuff in middle school. I made a lot of unique crafts that other kids were dying for. By 2003 in high school I'd probably made a few hundred bucks. lol

[@kirkwahmmett1666]

I wouldn't say I'm a part of the super resourceful crew but I did make a couple hundred bucks from pokemon cards.

[@12thPlace]

I personally really enjoyed this movie. A lot of the time I would get sort of 'second-hand embarrassment' - especially with the period pad scene - because I remember going through the monthlies considerably earlier than my peers and when it happened, I thought I was dying! I believe that's what the movie WANTS to achieve for those to relate and/or to provoke a reaction as a sort of "hey, remember when this happened when you were young"? I loved it honestly. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion about the movie, but regarding these scenes and people thinking that it "shouldn't be in a kids movie". This is reality. This is something that happens to girls as young as the movie's intended audience. I got a huge shock when it originally happened and I feel that the movie is a good, tame introduction for it. Lovely message that the movie spreads about a mother and her daughter. Especially relate to the whole rebelliousness within the movie too. Overall I really enjoyed it!

[@alize0623]

I saw a mom on Facebook complain that this movie made her explain to her two daughters, aged 9 and 11, what periods/pads are. Like, are you fucking kidding me? I got my first period at 11 and breasts at 8! The fact there are kids on the brink of this huge, lifelong thing and aren’t told at all is horrendous. And getting mad at a movie for bringing up a natural thing they should’ve known about for years? Awful. I applaud the movie for starting these awkward situations to the kids.

[@GreenGorgeousness]

@@alize0623 right. Like, that should have already happened!!! More periods in cartoon please!!!!

[@bagelisdead]

@@alize0623 That's wild to me, why moms would try to avoid talking about periods with their children. I was fortunate enough that my mom told me about periods well before I had my first, so I can only imagine what it would be like to not know and just wake up one day in a pool of your own blood.

[@theallusechannel]

Hi can you shout out to Mayo that we need a Mario/Turning Red animation from him

[@theallusechannel]

also my channel needs a shout out too pls

[@justAnotherDayVibin]

I saw it as a metaphor for not holding in your emotions but living to learn to control them and learning to be happy with who you are instead of running from it. I loved it

[@shut.up.gabriel]

i honestly feel this is THE MOST relatable coming of age story ever from disney. yes, it’s cringey, BUT THATS THE WHOLE POINT! puberty is the epitome of cringe, and that’s ok! it is literally the most embarrassing part of your life, but it is critical for making you the person you are today. its exciting to find a movie that actually covers all that geared towards kids.

[@CURTSNIPER]

if people are cringing in a bad way towards it, it's not for the same reasons someone else cringes, likely not even at the same parts of the movie

[@g.d.graham2446]

Amen to that

[@BABS_SEED]

Yea whenever someone says turning red is cringe I say "Tell me you wernt cringe when you were a teenager, but im guessing you never were"

[@BababooeyGooey]

"The based man knows himself to be cringe." ~Cumfucius.

[@foodafen7406]

I feel like there should be a new definition of cringe, because whenever I read or hear the word "cringe" it makes me cringe even more.

[@Dragoodranite]

Honestly, my favorite aspect of the character design was the teeth. I never knew teeth could look so adorable but here we are. The art style is wonderful, the energy between Mei-Mei and her friends is emotionally palpable and i felt like i was back in 8th grade standing in the hallway watching teenagers be goofballs. It's also wonderful to see parental characters grow as people. I hope it helps adults in reality learn that they still have just as much to learn as the teenagers they may or may not be raising. The pubertty metaphor was great. One more thing, because this movie is set in 2002, making it set 20 years ago, this would make it a.. PERIOD PIECE. lmao

[@JamesP7]

Lol, the comment right above yours says that their biggest gripe with the movie was the teeth

[@Dragoodranite]

There are two kinds of people. Lmao

[@Homodemon]

For me is the hair. Man, I've always loved Pixar's hair physics and how far they've gotten since Monster Inc., and in this one it looks soo natural and soft and airy! Red Panda Mei looks like a whole fluffball, it's adorable.

[@denjidenji9162]

" this would make it a.. PERIOD PIECE" please no i already feel so old aaaahhhhh

[@Duskool]

Honestly, i'm glad the main character designs are so widely different from one another instead of being 4 similar pretty girls with only height and eye shape difference anime style. If this was any other movie or made in a different era, the girls all would've looked like the blonde girl that sees Mei as a panda in the bathroom, but with different skin colors. The designs remind me of The Amazing World of Gumball at times, the kid that bullies Mei is literally Tobias.

[@tayloradney8983]

I felt the diary drawing scene in my SOUL. I used to write stories about a girl going to summer camps and holding hands or making out with the hot guy. Those got me so steamed up and I'd read them over and over. I found a few in an old box a few weeks ago, and BOY, were they CRINGE. 😆 But I got some good laughs out before I threw them away. That's what Turning Red is all about. That very relatable moment where puberty hits all of us and we're struggling to understand who we are and deal with a flood of hormones at the same time. Whether you menstruate or not, all people can appreciate this coming of age story.

[@thaliacrafts407]

Oh god yes 😅 My cringe writing was a 49 chapter fanfiction called "beam me up Goku" which was some sort of crossover between Dragon Ball Z and Star Trek Voyager. It was soooo bad but soooo fun XD

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

@@thaliacrafts407 You need to upload and immortalize that shit right NOW.

[@wolfgang3385]

Same lol when I was 13 I made a whole comic about me and my crush lmao. I stopped after I found out my mom secretly read it💀

[@nanoff815]

​@@wolfgang3385 I was obsessed with this one girl when I was 13 and in my English class we had to write a poem and mine was about her.(We didn't have to present it thank God) I guess I haven't changed much between 8th grade and 12th grade because after 3 years of not seeing her I like the same girl. I think I've chilled though. I can actually sorta talk to her now.

[@slowyourroll1146]

@@wolfgang3385 how did you find out??

[@suicidalloafofbread2009]

I loved this movie, but I can't believe that Pixar would expose children to a concept as disgusting as... *Canada* 🤢🤮

[@lexAlleviate]

Not maple syrup!!!

[@jessicaswinbourn.320]

And the constant politeness! :P

[@mrdarksky5746]

can't wait for Sweden

[@sumeraseraj45]

I have cousins who live in Canada, and I've gone to Canada before. imagine discriminating Canadians 😐

[@suicidalloafofbread2009]

@@sumeraseraj45 Bro it's a joke

[@AuRoaraAnimations]

the fact that there wasnt really a main villain and family issues were portrayed instead made it that much more relatable

[@Vincent654]

For the last 3 Disney movies I think

[@soysource3218]

yeah we're seen more of that, which is good because family dramas have potential

[@thaiangquoc9505]

Same for what they did in Encanto

[@AhuramazdaShah-d8z]

I do want more villains in Disney though

[@carolinestrong6341]

I must admit the visuals never bothered me so I was so confused to see everyone get up in arms about it. I had a think about it and realised, as Saber mentions, a lot of people hated the mouth and teeth being huge (along with the anime/Asian animation influences), and it hit me why I didn't mind it - It looks A LOT like Aardman Animations. Wallace and Gromit, Flushed Away, Creature Comforts - they all have the big mouth, big teeth style of animation and I love it. I grew up with it, funnily enough in the 2000s. T.R looks like a normal animation to me, and I think it looks great!

[@CelestialSushi]

I was thinking about that too, yeah! Like, if you try to imagine this done in an Aardman-style stop-motion, it's not too hard to visualize and that's kind of cool :D

[@ANME1rocker]

Reminded me of that too!

[@Hesadryt]

I didn’t mind the character animations that much, but I thought the environments felt kind of flat or monochromatic. Really didn’t like the background/setting art.

[@BeastGuardian]

I was just going to comment the same thing! I just constantly got a Wallace & Gromit vibe from the facial animations.

[@kongchho]

It's the same people that are mad about "bean mouths" in modern cartoons but forget that it's a style that's been used since the 30s. If the story had been about a generic American family the outcry would be waaaaay less.

[@maddy8328]

Personally, as a woman, it was VERY NICE to see girl puberty and periods be talked about. It was refreshing. It is also important to show parents are always not right. I was very able to relate with this movie, iy is very good and I loved it alot. Definitely deserved a theatrical release.

[@Jill4ChrisRedfeild]

The last time a story about a girl growing up peroods being a thing I saw as a kid in the early 2000s was that film My Girl. And it traumatised me because it was more about death than growing up haha

[@anyone1111]

@@Jill4ChrisRedfeild omg I REMEMBER THAT MOVIE😭 it was so sad

[@glaceongirl1011]

The part where the mom was disapproving of the friends was a big part for me. I mean the trauma and emotional damage was also big but when mei went something along like “my mom doesn’t really like you” and her friend looked so upset. I immediately went they’ve put the gay pain in full focus. Having a friend you’re super close to and your mom sensing something “off” and not wanting you to be influenced by them. There’s nothing inherently wrong that your friend did but there’s just enough chemistry that your parents catch it and get over protective. One mistake and they use that to force you apart. Any baby crush you get suddenly feels crushing (ha) Also the journal part hit HARD. My mom did the same thing. She had me write in a journal and PROMISED not to look in it. I left it at home once and she found out I was dating my best friend thru it. Oh the fight was BAD. I still have issues writing in journals now. It felt very real and as a young teen you really feel like every stresser is so big and crushing and any new thing is either really exciting or terrifying and I think this movie showed that well

[@tristynd.8]

I will admit, I was one of the people who wasn’t thrilled about this movie when it released on trailers. Not because it was a metaphor for puberty or anything like that, but because the trailers made Mei out to be an annoying protagonist. But when I actually watched the movie, Mei was actually likeable and the story was charming. Overall, this movie was way better than I thought :) (pls no hate I actually like this movie now)

[@zamiaramirez1390]

Yeah im “mei lin lee and i do what want say what i want”really made go eck. But then again that’s 13 year olds for ya. Really glad you see her go ope gotta get home and help my mom cause i do obey her

[@JoNarDLoLz]

It's also a nice change to see a main protag be the main driving force of the plot. She was competent and was the one moving the plot and the conflicts are from the side characters.

[@Randomrainfrog]

I liked it too

[@nyanfox4754]

Yea I think the advertisment is what screwed it over

[@caldw615]

Honestly a lot of her traits aren't that different from the nerdy protagonists of other shows that people adore.

[@skelentropy]

I can’t relate to this story as I am RIGHT NOW but my younger self highly could. And there’s nothing wrong with remembering your past and relating. This movie was such a wonderful thing to experience, and I’ll respect it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but this will be a movie on my rewatch list for years to come.

[@natalyzuniga713]

exactly my thoughts ! like I've grown up but it perfectly encapsulates how i used to be at that age.

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

Spam..

[@nana-dm5ri]

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[@matguimond92]

I never smoked pot back then so I don't give a flying f*ck about my younger self.

[@matguimond92]

@Mire222 lol my parents would of skinned me alive for smoking pot when I was 14.

[@beardlessdragon]

Here is my take on the movie: It is not my personal cup of tea. It had some storytelling choices that made me scratch my head and I didn't feel it actually brought its themes full-circle for a satisfying conclusion. BUT. It is an important movie that I hope is very impactful for people. It doesn't have to be something I liked or got invested in. It doesn't have to be for me. Because it's going to be a beloved story for many others. It portrays the struggles kids have quite well and has endearing moments that many people will really latch onto. We need more coming-of-age stories that don't shy away from the true growing-up experience and let kids see their full selves on-screen Tl;dr Not for me, but the people criticizing the puberty themes should shut tf up :)

[@AstralXen]

Respectable opinion

[@izzyshakir6597]

Respect

[@rinxmacaroni2085]

respectttt

[@pokaay3163]

respect! I love this film for its energy, animation, and style. it’s got a story about an expective and judgmental mother and a growing teen girl that I can relate to. All the criticism about the themes in this movie that “shouldnt be shown to children” baffles me. I would have loved this movie when I was younger, as much as I do now. I feel like a lot of those adults missed the point by at least a few miles.

[@kumakiel8850]

Respect tf outta u dude

[@christiekindle7333]

I watched this with my parents in hopes that they would realize that this is hard for me too, but they seem to selectively only hear the parts that made the parents seem perfect, like at the beginning on that whole monologue about how “parents gave you life so you have to do everything for them” and all that, and my mom even talked about how she wishes I would stop doing stupid things (like my hobbies, and/or anything I find fun that isn’t academic) and instead focus on more important things, like school. They ignored what I wanted them to see, how can they be so blind? Is it just me or is the message that everyone has to understand each other’s hardships obvious to everyone else?

[@dreamingahopefuldream4439]

Yikes. Yeah the message is very obvious. Parents only hear what they want to hear sometimes, and believe their word is always right when it comes to their kids. Sometimes its a lost cause trying to show them why they are wrong sadly. Don't stop doing those 'stupid things' enjoy your life as best you can or else you'll regret not enjoying them later.

[@tjwoffy94]

I completely understand what you're saying. I'm 28 years old now. And living life this far all I can say is do what makes you happy as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. And eventually your parents will see

[@Panda-cute]

parents are great at tuning out their own mistakes. they see their kids as little pawns who don't deserve opinions. you can try but in my experience they just don't learn.

[@stitches768]

@@Panda-cute I think the best thing we can do is try not do this to be better parents in the future. We might make mistakes and tune out our flaws as parents, but at least we'd be trying

[@Panda-cute]

@@stitches768 that’s very true. Everyone makes mistakes but at least we would recognize that our kids are worthy of respect and individuality like everyone else

[@caffeinatedpossum]

As far as the whole "Were you never a teenager?", I really didn't get to be a kid or a teenager. I lived in a town full of relatives with a population of about 80-100 at any given time. All my friends lived at least 10 minutes from me because the school district covered about 7 different villages and 1 small town. Sometimes I did get to spend the night with my female friends or go hang out with my guy friends, but I was never given the freedom to grow and find out who I was growing up. I've done so much growing between the ages of 19-23 that I feel the need to apologize to my high school and college friends about how damn cringey I was when we regularly hung out.

[@treesap2566]

I can definitely relate to that. I wish I'd gotten to hang out with friends more as a kid.

[@jadedskull3162]

It complicated for me too. I vrew up in a big town where people were scatteered around and many of my close friends moved away in my preteen years so I had to go into that time finding my own way. I was devloping into a well rounded individual buy I staryed to have identity issues and obsessing over finding friends and a girlfriend. It all backfired horribly to the point where I where people made up rumors about me and it all spiraled downhill in 7th grade at 13. I was basically bullied into isolation from 7th-12th grade and did not recover until after I Graduated HS. College was a complete over haul and 19-22 was also a significant period of growth. I was robbed of my teenage years and even in college it was a struggle to develop socially and I wish I could. Go back in time and apologize for it all. This movie takes place in 2002, when I was entering 13 so it makes me not want to relive that time in my lifem

[@ihavenoidea2805]

same... i have social anxiety which really affected my life and i didn't really have even a single friend growing up :/ my relationship with my parents is also kinda bad so throughout my teenage years i was just depressed and kinda alone :/

[@datemasamune2904]

I remember doing something similar along these lines, but honestly it’s embarrassing to talk about or recollect. I don’t mind talking and laughing about it with family and few close friends, but it’s not something I’d so readily discuss with other people who weren’t part of that period of my life.

[@Scrinwaipwr]

Depicting an adolescent going through... oh goodness... things an adolescent typically goes through?! The horror! A sex drive? Periods? It's too much! In my day family films were filled with wholesome things like the parents getting killed!

[@lillikoi-]

I’m only going to like this if you’re being sarcastic

[@Scrinwaipwr]

@@lillikoi- I am. (But then you might wonder whether *this* is sarcastic.)

[@jajajasputin8927]

The fact that people were actually clutching their pearls at the "smut" in her book makes me cackle. I'm very sure it's mostly parents who don't realize their kids are reading some wild fanfic. In my experience it starts with seeing some relationship on screen, and seeing some "tension" whether intended or not. Then all it takes is a Google. Hehe

[@IcyDiamond]

Fun Fact: The same women who directed this movie directed the Bao short that was shown before Incredibles 2

[@nancygonzalezgarcia8701]

For which she won the Oscar for Best Animated Short

[@nancygonzalezgarcia8701]

Also nice to see you here You excited for the Oscars next Sunday?

[@slickmf4634]

Tbh as a girl I’ve never related to a coming of age movie more than this one. This movie feels so accurate to my middle school years (despite the fact that I was in middle school 15 years after the movie takes place lol)

[@slickmf4634]

@Julie Demoranville lol ig that’s why I liked it. In middle school I was also pretty cringy and dorky, I actually looked a lot like Miriam lol. Ig it all depends on where we come from

[@llynxfyremusic]

@Julie Demoranville the panda isn't supposed to just be about periods. To me at least it was about the mental side of puberty and finding identity. Thats why Mei's mum wanted to lock it away so bad. So she could have her nice mama's girl back rather than let her find her own identity.

[@onijester56]

Likewise...As an AMAB enby, I can't recall any movie hitting my own middle-school years on the head more. And, like, I started middle-school in the fall of 2002...while the movie is set in the spring of 2002! Talk about a nostalgia trip...

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

@Ellie Bui I could relate to the overbearingness of the mother as well. The only thing was that periods were not taboo at all I’m my Asian households. In fact my dad showed me how pads worked. In Taiwan, they sell pads right at the front of the store and pad commercials are constantly airing.

[@theluigifan1]

I was in middle school in the late 2000s whereas this is set in the early 2000s. The dynamics were a bit different because in the late 2000s, the advent of smart devices and the Internet as we know it today was slowly coming to be but that aside, I still related to the “cringey” things Mei and her friends did. I drew rather suggestive art out of curiosity, I read fanfics, I obsessed over niche things (In my case, anime and video games) and I had a habit of trying to keep this side of myself hidden from my folks. I may not be able to fully grasp the period side that was explored but having two sisters, I had a vague idea so I suppose that made me subsequently more understanding than most guys around me. Sorry for rambling but long story short, I adore this movie and I wish it didn’t get the flack it got before it was even available to watch.

[@743d43ladyfae]

I was questioning her showing the panda while hiding from her mom, hiding all her stuff under her bed, and half assing on hiding her diary too but I realized she’s a teenager, fresh on puberty, that’s barely knows the hidden technique of hiding stuff from parents

[@elsakristina2689]

The scene with the diary got to me and made me laugh so hard because that’s almost exactly how I was when I was thirteen. The dynamic Mei has with her friends reminds me so much of myself and my best friend. Even their concert goal (but instead of a teen boy band my friend and I are Sigur Rós fans - which is how we met in the first place).

[@XxSugarFangsxX]

As a teenage girl who is also poc, I relate soooo much with turning red and Meimei. I love how Unafraid Pixar is when it comes to real topic and everything.

[@cgoose500]

My favorite thing about it was how Mei puts her paws up when she gets scared in Red Panda form, because that's something real red pandas do.

[@migaish_]

One reason I absolutely adore this movie, is that it's perfect for tweens like my young sister. There's finally a movie for young teenagers that doesn't baby them or over-sexualise them (keeping things healthy like the journal but not straight up smut)

[@Marigold11037]

Honestly I have never related to a movie more than turning red, in terms of its portrayal of young teen girls and their friendships + overall lives even though I don't see myself in the parts of the film that discuss Mei's culture, I've never seen another kids movie talk about puberty the way Turning Red did And past that, it was also just really enjoyable to watch. The animation was really cute and I loved how they made young teens actually _look_ like young teens, and I also enjoyed the scenes in the bamboo forest when the ritual is performed. It was such a beautiful visual to show Mei and her family giving up their panda forms I find it insane how mad people got over this film considering how unique it is. Again, this is the only film I've ever seen portray discussions of puberty while still being lighthearted and cute, but also realistic (you know...aside from the giant red panda) Like we can't even have one movie like this? At all? Without people getting mad? Anyway, really nice video Saber!