Wales v Springboks Preview | Autumn Nations Series Rugby | 2024

[@kronos3037]

I'm incredibly excited to see Cameron, hopefully he gets more than 20 minutes

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah man I reckon he'll get a good run of minutes

[@styxman500]

@@TwoCentsRugby I reckon he will be the next rugby superstar - he is a proper Rugby person - good looks won't harm him with the girls either :)

[@LambertOtto]

He should get at least 60 minutes.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@LambertOtto Not happening... he might get 40 minutes, if he's lucky.

[@kristian762]

​@Alias-gy3tz ja I doubt they'll pull Wiese (or Siya) off right after half time I think Cam will get maybe 25 - 30 mins if he's lucky.

[@kjlovescoffee]

12:32 "South Africa by 24" And how about the 2nd half?

[@AnthonySteinghart]

😂

[@nj1978]

We will get smashed by a massive margin . I legitimately think it will be our boggiest loss at home ever

[@Burninglash]

Expectations are not high. Brilliant line!

[@johnmcdonald-6196]

You know that Simpsons meme “stop, he’s already dead”? Well that comes to mind with this fixture. This springbok team is a juggernaut and the welsh are really in a hole. I actually hope the welsh play out of their skins and restore some confidence. All the best to both teams.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah that meme looks like it'll fit man!

[@YOYOTh1s]

Time for Hanekom to show his skills. How can you not be excited for the young man!?

[@RozWentworth]

Saffa here...any team can have an off day...trust both teams turn up on the day and play at their best...lets go🎉🎉🎉

[@petes9524]

Boks have won 11/13 matches this season , scoring 50 tries with only ten tries against them in the Championship tournament, and rotating 52 players is " quite a good season"?

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah pretty good!

[@Goggawie]

Brilliant

[@petes9524]

@TwoCentsRugby I thought it is the English who are masters of understatement.😄

[@TwoCentsRugby]

I honestly think if they'd made fewer changes they could have had a perfect season - but it would be at the cost of the future guys getting game time. So yeah it's worked out still pretty bloody well

[@Goggawie]

@TwoCentsRugby spot on Mark

[@Waywind420]

A long time ago I was playing under 14.5's rugby in chilly Christchurch. Our team were bottom of the ladder and were set to play against one of the best teams in the tournament. We had lost to these guys 60 - 5 earlier in the year, and we had arguably got worse since then. To our surprise we were actually winning 7-5 at half time. Our defense was holding up, the forwards were occasionally even winning rucks and at one point I had a full field try-of-your-dreams scrubbed just before half time because I was illegally pushed before I could regather the ball over the line. For the second half our coach rotated Ryan and Jake into the backline, two of the smallest and youngest players on the team. Not only was Ryan less than 5 foot tall but he couldn't run and he definitely couldn't tackle. I remember the opposition's 6ft tall outside backs running at him non-stop and simply running around him as he pretended like he was ever a chance of stopping them. Jake wasn't much better and if he even managed to get close to making a tackle he just melted right off them. So many leaks in the defense and the final score ended up being 65-10 to them. The point I'm making is that I think the Welsh forwards are actually pretty solid, but if your backs can't tackle you're going to get styled on...and the welsh backs can't tackle.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Dude. You had me read all that to believe that the upset was on. I was invested! And then... You got squashed anyway 😢

[@Waywind420]

@@randomlyfactual1943 🤪 thanks for reading, you sir have great patience

[@tsudanie]

Has someone contacted you about the movie rights yet?

[@evanwishart5648]

The only thing that goes in Wales' favour is that the Ospreys and Scarlets players have beaten a SA club side this season. Im really clutching for something here 😅

[@ntsikabandezi5225]

😅😂

[@subbie5498]

wales are gonna make the upset of the century

[@Natedawg38]

South africa need to shape up.

[@Phill1203]

I'm more confident, I think if our game plan goes well, all the players try their best and the ref gives us a few calls, we could potentially keep them under 40

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

😂

[@OldRhino]

Hell of a goal that. As long as we can keep them to under 40 points.

[@jacquesvanzyl8284]

TX BUD. GREAT INSIGHTS LIKE ALWAYS🇿🇦

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Always beware of a wounded animal. Recent form and results obviously favours the Springboks by a huge margin. But this Wales side is definitely better than what last week and their losing streak would suggest. By just having a few things fall into place, this Welsh side can be a lot better. Also, Gatland has always been able to pull up a strategy that would cause the most frustrations to the Boks. No matter how much better our team looked on paper, they've been able to hold the game close. There's that, and the fact that after their woeful performance last week, Wales will want to bring it with all their might in order to prove to their supporters that they won't quit. So while this could turn into a proper obliteration, I don't think it will. I think the Welsh boys will be brave and front up and still be in the game come halftime. Only after the bomb squad starts getting into their stride, do I see the Boks truly put this game away, by a margin of 15-20. ... Or, you know, this could get really ugly. Something like the rigby equivalent of the film _Hostel._ Let's rather be positive, shall we?

[@clibo1]

Agree with you, the Springboks don't typically win by huge margins. So if Wales just goes for it and plays with high energy, disruptive who knows. Maybe they can create panic and mistakes in the Boks.

[@SherryTakhalo505]

To be fair, I just don’t see it. Yes the wounded animal analogy works for team that has it in their reserve, but I just don’t see it this time. I hope I’m wrong and wales do have the reserve to put up a fight though.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

@@clibo1 If they go with England's type of tactic, they'll keep the game closer than most people would think. Eventually they'll tire and that is when the Boks will put a hurting on them. Or that's the way I see it

[@randomlyfactual1943]

@@SherryTakhalo505 same here. I don't think anyone wants to see Wales go belly up after 20 minutes...but what we want to see and what reality decides to do might be two different things. I'll hope you're wrong as well, but I would also very open to an "I told you so" if you're right

[@interestedbystander196]

The only wounded animal to beware of is the wounded Ox. "You guys don't give me a nomination for World Player of the Year?! OK, watch this..." And now he's not even playing.

[@styxman500]

The great thing about Rassie's rotation of players will have a great flow on effect with club rugby as most players have not been gassed by too many matches and will be fresh enough to have a positive effect in URC and champions league?

[@clibo1]

The Springbokke don't always win games by huge margins. And they are showing huge respect to Wales. Nah will be a close match again, but the Springboks take the win for me.

[@interestedbystander196]

Historically, Boks v Wales has always been a tussle, mostly because their gameplans and playstyles have been very good at nullifying each other. However, _this_ Bok team against _this_ Welsh team... most likely a very big margin.

[@morgandunn8163]

​@interestedbystander196 as a welsh fan I agree 40 plus sadely sad times

[@brizzleb-n2r]

As an Englishman living in Wales, I hope Wales get pumped :)

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Ouch 😁

[@brizzleb-n2r]

@TwoCentsRugby You won't find any love for the England Rugby team in Wales mate, the rivalry runs deep 😁

[@kjlovescoffee]

​ @TwoCentsRugby if you haven't seen it, the last 10 minutes of the Curry Cup final is worth a watch. Jordan doing some big moment stuff, but there was more crazy going on at the end. Highly entertaining!

[@Thudsrayz]

👍 it was on nz tv. The game got crazier with every minute

[@rhysjones9870]

Plumtree at 8 and Elias still on the bench, pretty sure Gatland has already thrown in the towel 😅

[@beaztsnipr]

60+ to the boks with a signed resignation letter from Gatz at full time.

[@mikhailswartz]

08:12 "... which is the correct answer when you've got Rassie Erasmus sitting right next to you..." 😂😂😂

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Honestly not sure what the journo was expecting him to say 😅

[@kristian762]

First ive heard that Ox isnt playing... but tank at 1 and Wilco at 3 was what i was actually hoping to see for this one... means i was actually able to predict the tight 5, but thats all i got right. That and the half back combo, i figured Rassie mighy start the 2 brothers

[@Professordog1]

I'm a Welshman, I live three miles from the stadium, I used to play - How do I see the future? I have just become a Christian.😇😂

[@jeramy576]

Wales are a 16 to 1 underdog 😬 I just hope they have a good day out with the boys 😂

[@the_katman2181]

Boks by more than 25, I reckon. I just cannot see the Welsh breaching their defence more than a couple of times, and that Bok bench is brutal. The last quarter could get nasty. I also think Adam Beard is a huge loss for Wales. He never has a bad game, and he does the kind of things that mess with the Boks' traditional gameplan (contesting lineouts, disrupting mauls, irritating the forwards). They're definitely going to miss him.

[@brendaandalistairhunter9593]

Thanks, great commentary. I always enjoyed it.

[@nicodavids4604]

Thanks for all your work on Rugby Union Mark Go Bokke

[@TwoCentsRugby]

My pleasure!

[@CatPlatton]

Calling it now this the start of Wales comeback, they’re gonna put 50 on SA and grand slam the next 6N …

[@them1stocles]

Gunna be a rough for our lads - they’ll do us proud though, i’m sure. The night is always darkest before the dawn & all that - bring it on!

[@rodwellchigome7567]

Boks to end the year with 12/14. One of the loss was a last minute drop goal against Ireland, and a last minute penalty miss against Argentina. Phenomenal year with over 50 players utilized. Bodes well for next year. Bring on the All Blacks at Eden Park.

[@morapelimokokomali7907]

I think it's going to be closer than that, much closer. A good predictor of Rassie's intent is Canan Moodie. If he's not in, then they're not going to try open up the game as much

[@DirtyDawgSailing]

Look forward to some depth chart action!

[@altaafkader9675]

Rumour has it, Freddie Steward is still running

[@Poweroftouch]

Win is not possible! plain and simple, best team in the world on form against a fresh but amateur welsh side with not much talent in the side ,il be there sat to watch south africa for the first time.

[@bjornhoffmann6008]

That Bok bench🤯🥳

[@TheMatthewLoder]

think the Hendrikses had their first game of international rugby together recently for the sharks

[@jonfallis305]

as an eng fan never thought would sympathise with the welsh but i do now, sad days

[@benbryan4468]

I see a lot of fellow Welsh fans defending Gatland and putting all of the blame on the WRU, and whilst a big portion of the blame goes to the WRU absolutely, no way is Gatland blameless. He's a 1 trick pony with old tactics and he's not getting the best out of this group of players. We look worse than we did in the 6 nations. I understand he did good things for us the first time around, but that's in the past. We need a younger and hungrier coaching staff, but who that consists of, I don't know. Sad times!

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah man it's definitely a mix aye. I don't buy the "just don't have the players" thing. People were saying the same about the Aussies not too long ago - but Joe Schmidt seems to be getting the best out of a lot of players who had previously been written off as not good enough for test rugby. Not saying Wales should be #1 in the world or anything, but yeah I think there's more in the squad than Gats is currently getting out of them

[@benbryan4468]

@TwoCentsRugby it's infuriating to see a coach with the worst ever losing streak being defended. What other nation serious about the sport would be like this? Utter madness 😆

[@TwoCentsRugby]

@@benbryan4468 Yeah I think it's cos of his record being cracking in the past - people assume it must be the players cos he's a good coach. I'm not sure it always works that way aye - sometimes the coach is the right fit for the right group or the right time - but not always

[@benbryan4468]

@@TwoCentsRugby this game is just a warm up for the big one next week! (Cardiff Vs Dragons) 🤣💙🖤

[@brandonjoubert6615]

Sure someone mentioned this - but the Hendrikse brothers are both at the Sharks in the URC

[@clibo1]

Would've loved to see Ox play so that he can demonstrate once again why he should have won this years World 15s player of the year.

[@Thudsrayz]

Really need the weather to even out the teams here. Any chance of rain at Principality Stadium?

[@shaungibbs7400]

The roof will be closed apparently.

[@amamartin84]

Hendrikse brothers both play for the Sharks now.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Ah right! Have they played together yet?

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

I seriously don't know what they do in the Bok squad. Both of them bring ZERO special to the Bok team, bar reasonable kicking. Fortunately we don't have a shortage of top-class 9s, but we do need a proper third pivot. With the emphasis now on Tonyball, I maintain that Sanele Nohamba will fill that void perfectly, considering that he's also an excellent scrumhalf.

[@JungleOatsify]

​@@TwoCentsRugby think they started at 9 and 10 against glasgow a few weeks ago

[@truthbetold8233]

​@@wouterswanepoel5753 Jaden is incredibly talented, like undeniably. Jordan has potential as a utility back (granted he hasn't done anything in a Bok jersey).

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@wouterswanepoel5753 I feel the same about Libbok. I seriously do not know why he is still in the squad. I hope Jordan has a great game, hopefully he leapfrogs Libbok to be our 3rd choice flyhalf behind Sacha (2), and the GENERAL, POLLARD (1), who is still our best flyhalf by far.

[@rugbyhub72]

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[@woesmevrou5673]

Extreme opposites meet up - current top ranking and current lowest ranking. Brutal truth is that the top and lowest slots have to be filled by one team or another. But the match up seems particularly brutal - contrasts in age and experience amplifies the gap!

[@adrianincapetown7043]

The Hendrikse brothers are both at the Sharks.

[@stewartmcdonald1725]

Hannekom ...here comes the pain

[@benbryan4468]

It's hard being Welsh 😆

[@theborgster8497]

I'm expecting Wales to turn up for this one as they usually do against the Boks, I don't expect the massacre everyone is saying it will be

[@OldRhino]

I agree with you here. There's nothing worse for moral than a walkover, and it's also not fun to watch either. That said, the Springbokke always go out with the intention to crush their opponents, so don't expect any mercy, because the Bokke don't take prisoners.

[@ピピン-u2g]

From a Japanese fan, though I hate to say that, Wales’ losing streak would come to an end if they were scheduled to play against us.

[@sandrah5156]

Both Hendrikse brothers play for the Sharks.

[@tim.jenkins75]

Pollard has more caps than us.......

[@subbie5498]

id be more worried abt libbok pollard you know what to expects lots of kicks and up and unders

[@tristanmaclennan2989]

I do hope the roof will be closed, as there is heavy rain predicted for Saturday and Sunday

[@mojophunk]

Jaden&Jordan are at Sharks 🦈 gelling

[@Aesyrbane]

I can't wait to see how much damage the Boks backs will do to this poor Welsh team.

[@Poweroftouch]

Anything else than 60 point is poor from them and not acceptable

[@rhysjones9870]

ill be happy if we can keep it below 60 points 😅

[@Tarrimaster]

I don't see Wales winning, but I don't think they will be as bad as they were against Australia.

[@shaunspost]

I hate games where there is this massive expectation for one team to win by 40 or more. Boks should have played France for last game.

[@LambertOtto]

It’s not about winning, it is all about enjoying rugby………………only joking.

[@alextaylor6793]

i just want to know if sa covers the spread. I have a feeling they wont play their hearts out in this game and just coast to an easy win. like they imagined game 1 vs argentina in the rugby championship.

[@bighardman33]

Betting odds put an SA victory at 1/750 😮 So if you bet £750 on The Boks winning you get £1 back if they do. Those are crazy odds.

[@Slappies007]

Gatland's time is up?

[@johnsullivan6059]

Twll newydd i Gymru.

[@JACKSLATER-d3r]

I hope Wales wins, but Springboks is just too strong💪&🏃‍♂️Quick

[@frederikkruger]

SA should win by at least 28

[@christiancatley4120]

Yeah tough ask for Wales tbh Springboks will be too strong imao

[@someonelastname8175]

South Africa by 20+

[@iea9677]

Arendse and Kolbe hattrick 😂

[@orlandosadie6283]

Wales need divine intervention or black magic. Maybe Suzi do consultations

[@mrwelshmun]

The Welsh squad is a joke. There's clearly no plan. Costelow at 10 instead of Anscombe?

[@dmac1653]

wales by 16, mark my words

[@runforrestrun1965]

Wales can just toss the dice and choose any up n comers as they are expected to again lose big time anyway. For the Aussies to slaughter them so badly just last week and with Wales continuing their losing streak, it is a symptom of where Wales is at at the moment. I’d like to see them play with freedom and not get sucked into any forward grind. Box could also play their second string side and give their top guys a rest. Sad to see how far Wales have fallen now.

[@morgandunn8163]

But sadely for us the boks have picked there full team l. Exept one or 2 in the backs 😂

[@markboland3590]

This one could be really really bad, like 100 plus points…,I hope not but doesn’t look good for Wales….

[@adrenalinrush2709]

Random comment for the algo.

[@Mark_Kiwi]

I don't see how putting these boys against SA helps anyone.

[@geoffc5196]

I’m not welsh , I hope they can pull off an upset. Never know… the Japanese did so …. and with the much maligned Eddy Jones at the helm…and Japanese didn’t do it in Tokyo either….just sayin.

[@cliftonboyz1959]

Wales by 5

[@kobuslouw9533]

Impossible, Wales by 15

[@SteveWarlee]

😂 i wouldn't stress too much wales, SA are not the sort of team who have that killer mentality, they believe in just scraping through on the bones of their posteriors.

[@e-moshe]

Just hope the Boks stay humble and don’t rock up with the attitude that the result is a foregone conclusion. The Welsh players will be desperate and I’m sure they will play out of their skins.

[@thepremiumbeannunber1736]

Ox out

[@Mark_Kiwi]

riot

[@FreakzDontSleep]

Wales are cooked

[@daveharris1800]

TMO to disallow 3 tries.

[@Karma-qt4ji]

And if he doesn't, we will be whinging next week about the things the ref and TMO missed. Just embrace (or at the very least try to accept) the process buddy. We want a game to be one that is refereed as accurately as possible, not one where we are still accusing the referee of matchfixing 17 years later.

[@daveharris1800]

@ humour noun 1. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech. "his tales are full of humour"-- embrace it buddy 😉

[@Karma-qt4ji]

@@daveharris1800 your sarcasm would have been a lot better placed had you given the slightest clue that you were trying to be funny in the first place.

[@daveharris1800]

@ Attention! Sarcasm to follow: TMO’s have Too Much Opinion. Disclaimer: the above sentence contains humour as is not intended to portray hurty feelings, racism, sexism or transphobia. Viewer discretion is advised.

[@Karma-qt4ji]

@@daveharris1800 Grow up, son. You know as well as I do that this could have been avoided if a) your opening statement had given the slightest hint of sarcasm or b) you had the balls to accept that when the reply came in.

[@Christos-7-9]

Jesse Kriel does nothing for this team

[@derekstuart9731]

Explain pls..

[@shaunspost]

​@@derekstuart9731Don't take the bait. He's a moron

[@SmokeyKiloOscar]

I agree that it's sad that the fixture between these sides has diminished like this. Traditionally quite a close affair. I really enjoyed the Biggar vs Pollard kicking showdowns of the past. I do hope that the Boks can really stretch their legs in this one however. I agree with the general feel out there that the Boks have been cruising on this tour, not really hitting any high revs. It's actually cudos to the Scots and Brits for putting the pressure on and not allowing them to getting into their stride, to some extent, but I'm hoping to see the Boks be ruthless and wrathful this weekend. World Rugby haven't changed enough laws to nerf the Boks' game yet. 🦾 We need put some more fear in them before the year ends.

[@shawnberry6110]

If its dry, boks by 25. If its wet, boks by 20. If a bok gets sent off early, boks by 10. If two boks get sent off, boks by 5.

[@them1stocles]

Roof shut, hope its not wet!

[@runforrestrun1965]

Wales can just toss the dice and choose any up n comers as they are expected to again lose big time anyway. For the Aussies to slaughter them so badly just last week and with Wales continuing their losing streak, it is a symptom of where Wales is at at the moment. I’d like to see them play with freedom and not get sucked into any forward grind. Box could also play their second string side and give their top guys a rest. Sad to see how far Wales have fallen now.

[@shawnberry6110]

The front 5 of the Boks are our third choice players. Our 9 and 10 are the 4th choice.