Unboxing & Repot | Cleisocentron merrillianum x gokusingii - A Blue Orchid! Ecuagenera & Importing

[@mr.spirofucci1493]

Great video as always! I just love to see and listen to you!!! Can't wait to see these guys grow and flower in your care.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hi! Thanks alot, I appreciate that, it means alot to me :-) Let's hope for spikes!

[@liverocks62]

I very much enjoy your challenging undertaking on your channel. There is always something new I can learn from. Thank you for your efforts!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks 🙂💙

[@dan_ta_lion]

Hi Annabel, ever since you posted this orchid in your community post I am obssesed 😍 I love small flowers in orchids and the fact it is blue 😍😍 *chefs kiss*

[@TheOrchidRoom]

They are just wonderful aren't they! I also love clusters of small flowers 😍😀❤

[@scottdevito8421]

Hello from Canada, yes import is complex here but societies, local orchid companies organize international orders regularly. Also when we can travel to the US we can carry over 50 hybrid orchids under a houseplant exception but this is not commonly used. Great videos and acquisition!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

That's good! Unfortunately a different story with the UK, sounds like your import laws may be a little more flexible than ours even. From next year all EU orders will require phytosanitary and import permit registration. I can only speak to what the regulations are here, other countries all have different laws so hopefully this encourages everyone to look up their countries regulations before importing.

[@alp6079]

Wow, those are huge compared to the small one Cleisocentron Merrillianum that I got from a nursery in the US. Seeing as how slowly they grow, I think my next order is going to be from Ecuagenera.

[@chaosm1105]

Great unboxing! Something tells me you’ll be placing another order for those cattleyas you were mentioning... 😁😁😁😁

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks!! I'm on a ordering ban for now I think XD My friend also just sent me some more orchids, so I wish I could justify going back and ordering more! If they do another sale though....Done XD

[@TheOrchidRoom]

@@karlsorchidparty2395 Their miltoniopsis species are calling me 😁😉

[@elainereilly4686]

Good video...I enjoy watching how you pot new plants up and your reasoning for what you do.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

I appreciate that! Thankyou, glad you liked it! :-)

[@wandashaw3551]

They are lovely. I really love those leaves, too. What a great find. I'm going to enjoy watching their progress! 😍

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hey Wanda! Hope you're well 😀 they're so fat and cute and chubby aren't they! Let's hope they do ok! 🤞🤞🤞💙

[@wandashaw3551]

The Orchid Room I have every faith in your growing capability! They are going to thrive! Take care and be safe! 😍

[@Lili-wz8eg]

you matched the gloves with microfiber and flowers ....super job , love it .

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Oooh unintentional styling 😀🤣 Blue theme! 😀💙

[@KP-gw5zv]

Nice couple of orchids. The picture of the blooms are beautiful. Looking forward to seeing them in bloom in the future. One of the orchids look likes it has some dead roots. But who knows from looking through the video. Great video and have a great day. Enjoy them. I am looking forward to any updates on these.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks Kim! No dead roots at all actually 🙂 Thanks for watching and have a good day too!

[@heidyschilling9922]

With Ecuagenera you can also check their shows around the word and they will bring your orders to the show

[@yland6003]

Ninja Orchids sent me! 🌸🙋🏼‍♂️ She posted a photo of your Clctn. I knew I had to get one! I purchased it yesterday, funny enough it was from the same nursery in Ecuador! Thank you for the information, it’s difficult to find information on this plant so thank you for your help! I also hope I can make a hybrid with this plant; I know it’s difficult but it might be fun to try! Have you had any luck breeding it besides the purple Neo.? Is your Clctn. doing well? If you now have any additional care tips I would love to hear it! Thank you! 🌸

[@Ian-pf2pw]

They look great ! I can’t wait to see them in bloom. Thank you for the tips on importing orchids from other countries also

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Me either! Oh I hope they do well and carry on the spikes! 💙🙂🌸

[@lyndamodeste7902]

Really enjoyed this Annabell 👌 ☺. Can you update us on how they are doing ?

[@lorettacabral4196]

Hi Annabelle. We are sitting around your unboxing and are just as excited as you are. Would like to know a little bit about yourself...for a young person you are so knowledgeable when it comes to this hobby....So happy you got a good shipment...Greetings from Toronto Canada.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hi Loretta! I was pretty excited and nervous for these ones, so happy they arrived OK, I have heard very mixed things about plants condition upon arrival from this seller! Thanks for watching along with the unboxing! It's very exciting getting a new species. What sort of orchids do you like to grow? There isn't too much to know about me, I'm quite boring. But to sum it up- Hi, my name is Annabel, and I am an Orchaholic XD It started when I started my PhD, and I can't stop, they now have their own room of the house- my boyfriend tolerates them. I also like cats, birds, nature, aggressively devouring books, and computer games :-) I am in the final year of my PhD, just got a slight research extension due to lab shutdowns. As to how I learned about orchids, pretty much spending all my spare time researching them, and testing out new things to try and learn their optimal conditions and preferences for my climate XD Also a significant addiction to online orchid shopping... Thanks for commenting Loretta, and thanks for stopping by :-)

[@drchanolmsted]

Love the unboxing. They look great. Your unboxing always makes me want to get more orchids!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Oops, sorry about that, the orchid addiction is most certainly contagious! 😉💙😀

[@michelleandrade1424]

Thank you so much for explaining at the end your flushing/watering process. I often watch your wonderful videos and wonder what next in terms of watering newly potted plants. Often the Leca looks wet but I’m not experienced enough to know if you’ve already pre soaked or water from top or bottom off camera so huge thank you. 😍

[@TheOrchidRoom]

No problem. I always pre soak the LECA, it gets used following my cleaning process so is sitting in some rain or tap water ready to go

[@NinjaOrchids]

Very beautiful orchids 🤩 wonderful purchase which I am sure will do absolutely great for you! 🥰

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Aren't they lovely!? Did you ever hear back aboit your floralia import? I hope these guys settle OK!

[@NinjaOrchids]

The Orchid Room not even a single 💨 ... and after how clipped the reply was when I enquired back in May, I’m not getting in touch now... they might misinterpret my enquiry as ignorance based on their current health situation ... which it wouldn’t be at all... I think it would be common curtesy to get in touch with customers and update them on the situation / status! 🤷‍♀️ I wish I could own a nursery! My word, the customer service would set a precedent for all the others out there! 😬

[@yasmingeorge5173]

Blue my favourite colour 😍 I would love to see them again in flower.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Let's just hope I can keep them happy enough to carry on their spikes! There is a chance they will abort from the shock of the import process though. I hope they dont 🤞🤞🤞

[@daniellesorchidranch1591]

I purchased an Oncidium naevium from them, it was obviously shipped to wet and was pretty much DOA. Lesson learned. I’m glad your plants look so good and I hope they do well for you.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Wish I could say that's a surprise, but there are alot of similar experiences floating around with importing plants from these guys. It's why I was a bit reserved....They had a Miltoniopsis species I wanted, but no, I suspect if I had ordered that now I would have received a dead plant. I hope these guys adapt OK!

[@daniellesorchidranch1591]

The Orchid Room yes I think if you stay away from plants that have bracts, which the moisture just sits in during transport, you should fare better. Good call on the Miltoniopsis! 👍

[@michelleslifeonrepeat]

I wish you well. Looking forward to seeing its ‘ progress.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hi Michelle! Thanks very much for watching and for your comment 🙂 I hope you are well also!

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

genus Thelymitra are the bluest orchids (crinita probably the bluest of them but they're all pretty blue) Yes, I've had bad experiences with Ecuagenera. Two orders had missing plants and trying to get them was a hassle. The one plant that came in dead they immediately credited. I mean, it isn't all bad. I received a couple of nice Phrags, an enormous Zygo and the Pescatoria wallisii (one of the missing plants) is looking fantastic and I'm happy with it despite the headache of actually getting it to me. And, the entire reason I ordered from them, Neomoorea wallisii is doing well. I'd definitely recommend them for Phrags, they seem to do those really well and the size plants you get for the price is excellent. Good to see you got two nice plants.I think the business model they've had to adopt due to COVID makes them more accessible to more people. I'd love to try the Cleisocentron but I don't think I could keep them cool enough.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks Michael! 💙 Seems very hit or miss, I wonder if it's bracty orchids that end up rotting? I wanted one of their miltoniopsis species, but decided against it, thinking that would probably be a very dead plant upon arrival! I think the new business model makes them way more accessible and I hope they continue it after Covid! By then though we will have left the EU trade agreement, and that will be a whole other nightmare with Phyto and import permits 😿

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

@@TheOrchidRoom Hard to say, Paula bought some Miltoniopsis from them and they were in good shape. The Odm nobile I bought is so so, but that's on me for buying a cool grower in July. I guess you better order now while you can!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

It's tough to know then- just luck I suppose!? A few have commented here that their plants are rotted from the same set of exports. Based on this order I would order again for sure, but there is always the risk that you'll be the one with the dead plants on arrival with these guys I guess.

[@angelaa.5552]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience with importing your plants! It's the same thing with my country :/ though I won't be ordering overseas anytime soon, I made a bit of research on how to import plants to my country. The sites were also not as straight forward and they mostly imply that the said requirements should only be done if the ordered plants are for business purposes.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hi Angela! They don't make it easy do they... I do understand why, but at the same time, surely the CITES and Phyto are the most necessary things... You would think maybe they would try and make it a bit easier for individuals to order plants from different regions. But there are probably a whole list of things I don't understand about that system, that I'm sure there are good reasons for. I have recently registered with the DEFRA imports system as a business, as when the UK's exit from the EU and trade agreement is finalised, we will have to start 'Importing' from EU nurseries, with all the extra documentation, and some extra costs. They seem to be trying to make the system easier at least, in preparation. I'm trying to get my head around it now, and maybe get some flasks in.

[@yliberal6355]

I was hoping you would have shown what the blooms look like!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

I did. 13:00, right at the start of the unboxing section, to try and make sure people who skipped the first part would see. If you missed that, there is always Google 🙂 The blooms are also in the video thumbnail.

[@o_o8203]

Oh wow those are pretty big. Their orchids aren't the cheapest but they're definitely worth the money.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

I was so shocked! These were only 25 USD each, plus the 20% off! I've never seen one for sale in Europe before, and they seem to be more expensive in the US usually. Happy dance 💙😀🦄🎉💙

[@lynnbrooks5503]

I googled the pics, amazing flowers.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks Lynn- they really are special for sure! 🙂

[@AttainableGreen]

Congrats on your cleisocentron! Looks like they both take after the gokusingii with semi-terete leaves and spacing. Flower spikes tend to come between the leaf joints(where the leaf meets the stem) if that helps determine if they are roots vs spikes. I’m still pretty new to them too. As for Ecuagenera, I got my first order recently and it was perfect...but we were having a heat wave so the acclimation process was rougher than usual and had a few dried leaves 😄

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks! I love them! They definitely aren't roots, they could be keikis but I suspect spikes 🙂 I hope they adapt OK, it would be lovely if they kept the spikes, if that's what they are, but if not then hopefully they get new roots down without issue! I hope yours adapts OK!

[@johnnixon4085]

Just found this video by accident. I got the exact same plant from the exact same place at right about the same time you did. It was in also in bloom when I got it, and has grown very nicely and bloomed more strongly each year. Is yours doing well?

[@juliazolotareva865]

Wonderful acquisition!!! I've seen these species on FB AOS page - they are fascinating, they look almost unreal...seen comments about flower spikes being dyed they look so blue 💙 😄 Anyway congrats on receiving healthy plants! 🤞🤞🤞 for the flower spikes!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks Julia!! I'm so excited to have them! 😀 They are surreal! I hope they adapt OK! 😀🤞💙

[@juliazolotareva865]

@@TheOrchidRoom I'm very confideng you will figure out the best set up for them!

[@bettapalfish9057]

I loved the foreign import information. I am in the USA and saw Lepanthes Orchids from Equidor. Our mail is now bad with the administration trying to eliminate the Post Office. If I order the orchids may not be alive on arrival. My neofinetia nursery is having difficulty ordering from Japan due to COVID. You are brave ordering from a foreign country. Can’t wait for the updates.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks 😊 glad you found it interesting!! The post situation sounds terrible, I'm sorry 😿 It was a risk for sure- I'm so happy these guys made it safe! 😀💙

[@orchidsbythelake]

Nice packaging. They just shipped mine out of Florida (8/4) my friend also ordered along with me so unboxing will be 🤯

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Ooh fingers crossed! I'll keep an eye out for your unboxing! 🙂

[@MilanOfCreagan]

I have my order from them arriving any day now I hope

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Exciting! What did you order? 🙂

[@MilanOfCreagan]

Ordered quite a few 🤦🏻‍♂️🤫 Caucaea phalaenopsis Caucaea olivacea Odontoglossums hallii milagro Oncidium alexandrae Oncidium leucochilum Oncidium lindleyoides Oncidium nobile Oncidium spectatissimum Oncidium tigroides Masdevallia caudata Ecuagenera

[@o_o8203]

I just bought a Cattleya (intermedia x trianae) from Ecuagenera on ebay, turns out they have a Florida location for shipping plants. I ended up paying about $44 after shipping and the plant was huge and healthy and it has a sheath. Definitely worth the money and it was packaged securely. I just need to get around to posting the video lol

[@TheOrchidRoom]

I've heard about this florida location from some FB groups! Sounds like a great way to do it, I hope they keep this up after Covid. I've never been to shows so this is the only way I can order really!

[@NocturnalButterfly]

I’ve been toying with the idea of ordering from overseas before winter hits (I’m in Ontario, Canada) as there are some gems I would love to have in my collection. Thank you so much for sharing! 💋💖🦋

[@TheOrchidRoom]

It's definitely worth investigating- if you can get it right then it will open up alot of options for you! It is complicated, but I'm sure once you've done it a few times it maybe seems easier. I'm also trying to get my head around the system before the new EU trade agreement/ exit happens at the start of next year, which means we will have to 'Import' to the UK from the EU. Unless things dramatically change between now and then, which they could. Difficult to follow and understand though!

[@chaosm1105]

Sign up for the Ecuagenera newsletter to keep updated on Canadian shipping dates. They're shipping out to a number of Canadian cities in August for local pickup (eg Montreal, Edmonton, Vancouver, Toronto).

[@TOEKIEWORLDMarc]

I've been thinking about ordering from Ecuagenera for some time now. Did you order immediately from their site or can it be done trough the German sender (Roelcke Orchideeen?) You've got some nice plants from them.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hi! Ecuagenera, website linked in description with details, more detail on ordering process at 07:37

[@GoldenArrow297]

Good job 👍

[@xyz-pg3zd]

Hi. Do you grow all your orchids in a leca mix?

[@tropicalplantsfinland]

Looking great! My order to Roellke left today and hoping to get my seedling by the next week. :) The weather is getting so cool that this is the last order of orchids for this year. I had planned ordering next spring some phrags from the Ecuagenera. :)

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Ooh yay seedlings! I have to place an order for more synthic with them soon, I'm sure a flask will sneak in 😆 hope yours arrives OK!

[@tropicalplantsfinland]

@@TheOrchidRoom they just appears out of nowhere. I'm sure something is smuggling the seedlings in. ;) It should stay above 14 °c during nights and only drop to that temperature for a short period of time. Now all I have to do is to wait getting them. Some are young plants, but did order the flasked ones as well. Looking forward seeing what you might get in future. P.s. if possible to see how the others are doing currently? :) Did they take the moving well.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hope they do OK for you!🙂 Most did very well, the gongoras basically died still in the flask though, and the laelia/ sophronitis hybrids are near dead now.... they just hated me. Too small to begin with, and then the moss and rot. Some of the smaller catts struggled a bit with the move. Mainly the smaller seedlings struggled the most. Honestly, I am saving an update for a long compilation video to try to make their journey easier to follow. I get alot of comments from people coming in mid way through the seedling stuff, really confused and asking for updates, which I've actually already done and linked in the description when they comment, but they don't see that. So as you've probably noticed, I've been holding off. I kinda wanted everything to be in one place, to minimise the number of people who aren't able to track the updates easily... because the updates are the most important thing! it means my phone storage space is full though of random filmed footage that's going to be a nightmare to put together 😅 It's tough to coordinate, I try to put things in playlists and link, but not many see them. For example! My most viewed video is me putting my vandas in semi-hydro. Specifically, the glass vases! Those are the Vandas that did the worst! Which didn't work well, and I've mentioned in a few videos recently that they need more aeration and are now in pots with ventilation and are finally doing well. But I need to make a big proper, all in one place update for that and paste it all over that glass vase video! I wish KZbin had a more easy navigation option to direct people to the updates. It makes it tough to know how best to do it all! 🙂

[@tropicalplantsfinland]

@@TheOrchidRoom oh it's sometimes hard to navigate on KZbin, but I understand your point and try to wait patiently for the big update. 😁 thank you for taking the time to write this long response! I just got information that all but one item is ready to be shipped. It was nice of them to inform me that they'll delay the shipment. I was actually waiting it to be send next week. I found that sophronites cross as a young plants, so took it to see how it grows. - M

[@garyhendricks7303]

I purchased a gokusingii last year it is much smaller than yours. I was wondering how yours are doing I grow mine in moss and bark .Did you put out an update video

[@aleksandarhristov6977]

You should do a rare orchid wishlist/ list of srange orchids, something like that.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Oh that's a great idea! Thanks! 🙂❤

[@kouprakrisnaabhay3206]

Please Annabel, updates on these please.

[@CatNip379]

Seeweed water good for orchids? How about kelp powder....same thing as seaweed powder?

[@jokennedy2943]

Looks promising!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@thaillling9369]

beautiful!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

❤ I love them! 😍

[@parasardas]

Ecuagenera is doing similar shipments to Canada, I am sorry to say the plants I received were in very poor stressful conditions, I am not finger pointing to seller but the whole doesn’t work well, considering the premium price we pay.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

😿😿😿

[@ratgirl44]

The reason for a lot of restrictions is most countries do not want people importing potentially invasive species. Same with importing animals.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Yes, there is also that, thankyou for pointing that out 🙂 I suppose I didn't think of this in relation to orchids since very few orchids would survive outside in the UK for long 😆 But it's definitely a factor!

[@joannakuzma5788]

Hi Annabel you a star✨⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@TheOrchidRoom]

💖🤗💖

[@carolinesoareslopes3924]

Boa noite e como ela esta hoje conseguiu cultiva?

[@vlr7017]

hi i just receive my order there are two catts one is beautiful and the other is rotted with a lot of black spots

[@TheOrchidRoom]

😿😿😿

[@sandiesorchids9387]

Love the pots that you're using where did you find them

[@tinakauder6605]

They are plastic food containers, I think Annabel got them on Amazon. There might be a chance they are mentioned in the DIY self watering video. I always re-use/recycle any yoghurt/muesli/tomato container/mini bucket from the supermarket. Maybe that's an option for you?

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Hi Sandie! They are plastic food buckets, I buy them in bulk from Amazon :-) Like Tina, I also like to reuse soup/ potato salad/ sauce containers. I have the larger size linked in the description, but these are a slightly smaller size. Larger (approx 13cm) : amzn.to/33psLys Smaller (approx 11cm) : amzn.to/3k5g9m9 Hope that helps!

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Thanks Tina! :-)

[@ritzwanchedim2464]

Actually my merrillianum x gokusingii are dying now?? what should I do..because I'm still learning about growing orchid.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

What's your environment like? For any rootless orchid, place in a medium light setup with no direct sun, keep temps intermediate (18-25C), extremes will stress them as will bright sunlight, and try and keep relative humidity around them high. You can do this by using humidity trays, or potting them lower in the pot, just sitting them on top of the bark. You can try foliar feeding, first thing in the morning ideally so they can dry before night, Cleisocentron will have stomata open at night only probably, since they're adapted to save water, so foliar feeding during the day would be ineffective anyway. If it has any roots, add seaweed into its nutrient water. If it doesn't, add seaweed into a foliar feed. Seaweed contains plant growth hormones that can stimulate new root production. Good luck!

[@CatNip379]

Is there any way you can put the name of the orchid in the comment box because I just went on their website and I can't seem to find it on their website I want to get exactly what you got if it's possible I live in the US so hopefully that won't be so difficult but we'll see 😊😁

[@jdp8969]

Hmm I wonder if they can breed with vandas or aeredis ? 🤔

[@TheOrchidRoom]

They can yes 🙂 One registered hybrid already with Neofinetia on orchidroots.

[@jdp8969]

The Orchid Room Wow, I have to check on that. I’m curious how it would look if it is cross with other vandas like the V. coerulea and V. sanderiana 😍

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Or coerulescens maybe?! Here is the link to the one registered hybrid with neofinetia from either parent. bluenanta.com/detail/information/101019354/?gen=17394&newgen=17394&genus=Aspoglossum&role=pub&att= . Looks like it mainly took after the Cleisocentron but with purple, neo-esque flowers. I think they must have used a purple flowered neo- would be tough to get the blue to carry through. I think a different parent may be needed to keep the blue colouration... either a white (but maybe that would wash out) or an already near- blue... Rhynchostylis coelestis?

[@jdp8969]

The Orchid Room The Orchid Room Ah yes, It does look predominantly purple. Agree, a white one would probably produce a blue gray flower. 😁. Yes, I think a Rhynchostylis coelestis would do. Or a coerulea x coerulescens hybrid parent would bring out the best blue. Hmm maybe you can take on the challenge of making one 😇😇😇

[@danielm.1441]

Ouch that must have been a costly mistake! :( Sounds overly complicated for beyond the EU... :/

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Yes, very 😢 The box of Vandas would have been cheap, if I had got them... but for a learning experience, it was an expensive one! They also will not give any flexibility or accept appeals. You make the mistake, tough, those are the rules... Which I do understand. I now have it in writing from them in very clear terms 😅 So hopefully at least sharing it may help keep someone else from making that mistake! Unfortunately I may need to get my head around some parts of it following the UK leaving the EU, there is a new system they are putting in place to register to notify them of any incoming plant imports, which hopefully will be clearer...

[@danielm.1441]

@@TheOrchidRoom I had no idea it was that complicated, but then I've never ordered from abroad (not even EU) yet. I'm not that far along in the hobby(addiction) yet.

[@YnseSchaap]

Well that was quite confusing 😁

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Sorry, what did you find confusing? 🙂

[@YnseSchaap]

@@TheOrchidRoom The ordering information 😁 I was planning on trying this myself I see it takes a lot more effort then I thought. I believe some Belgian nurseries also do orders for them. Thanks for showing how to do it

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Oh for sure, it's a real headache just applying for the import permits and registering. I've managed to register an account now, but then you have so many options of which form to file, it isn't clear at all. I'll need to get there if I want to continue ordering next year though!

[@YnseSchaap]

@@TheOrchidRoom I've been looking into ordering from Holland but it got really confusing the more I read about it, more study is needed 😁

[@alejandrosuena4318]

Would you sell one of them?

[@TheOrchidRoom]

Sorry, no, the risk isn't over yet, they have still been under a lot of stress and I bought them with hybridising in mind also, so even if both make it I will keep two. I would recommend signing up for notifications on the Ecuagenera website listing if you want to import one, as I did.

[@bellamorda9582]

My very first orchid I ever bought online got me site banned by horrible customer service. I asked questions..nicely even! It really wasn’t what I thought it was and I suggested they put more information like if it’s fragrant etc. and the guy got super defensive and rude. I told him that I would shop around to get a feel for vendors and the guy banned my internet connection!! Go fig. Those are beautiful! Good luck with them.

[@TheOrchidRoom]

😿😿😿