What Destiny 2 Looked Like In 2017...

[@Xn2th3blue]

Truthfully, I thought the campaign missions for the Red War were done very well. It was super cool having some missions requiring us to use various vehicles. I also enjoyed ending up on the Almighty and the showdown with Ghaul. There was a lot wrong with year 1, but those story missions were pretty good.

[@looksnormal]

I agree, loved the campaign for the most part. Kinda wish the Ghaul fight was done better, but that entire mission was beautiful

[@DaToby98]

You could tell they really tried with the story in D2 Since that was a big complain in D1

[@realnoble676]

It was an amazing and epic way to come into a game. Yea it was tedious to go through it again if you wanted to make a second or third character but I personally enjoyed it. It made me sad to come back to destiny recently and find out almost everything I remember from year 1 is gone, all the planets are gone, all my gear is pointless etc. Don’t get me wrong I LOVE the fact that we have so much more content now because I remember being there, being one of those complaining we had so little content which in turn making me dropping the game after doing all the endgame content besides trials multiple times. They’ve definitely made the game better in certain parts, it just makes me a little sad to see so much gone, but also proud to see how far the game as come

[@jonatansexdoer96]

I thought the exact same thing, until I made a second character. I found replaying the story was so tedious. I think the problem was that it was the type of story which is so uninteresting if you know what is going to happen.

[@Xn2th3blue]

@@jonatansexdoer96 I would counter with the fact that ANY story, be it a game, book, movie, etc., is drastically less interesting when you know what is going to happen. Probably has a lot to do with people hating spoilers so much.

[@benraynor-]

Only ogs remember when hawthorne would give you free raid and trials loot

[@sketchc.9501]

Fr I wish they kept that. Extra loot

[@thesenate6649]

I’m glad they removed it, players who did not deserve the loot were awarded for not participating

[@jamfilledjars]

I got The End scout rifle and kept it all this time, despite never playing Trials of the Nine… or at least enough to warrant loot.

[@Kjf365]

@@thesenate6649 tryhard

[@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823]

I remember tryna get the sins of the past and i couldn't get it for the life of me but then one of my buddy's downloaded the game and got it for free because his clan completed the challenge for him lmao i was pissed

[@Sorable]

So much nostalgia.. jeez time flies.

[@Hungrybird474]

Nostalgia sure seems like popular word in 2021 .

[@hobbit5556]

I feel glad I joined destiny in 2017 those days were great.

[@frijolitodr]

As Bungie is...

[@nox1ck589]

Can’t be nostalgic if nobody liked it

[@frijolitodr]

@@nox1ck589 well Bungie playing on nostalgia to get people the seasons and DLC 🤷‍♂️

[@jamesonwhiskey8017]

Every time he showed a vaulted crucible map, it struck some nostalgia heart strings. I completely forgot about some of them and then seeing them again is so sad knowing we can’t play them now even though I want to so badly.

[@kaoticyclismik]

yessir they added vostok and eternity back but i miss the awoken map

[@Rahahahahha]

Don't worry they brought back Shiternity and Vostcock 😒

[@THE_OBSERVER770]

I will always remember when Destiny 2 first came out. My step dad was an contractor electrician so he was away from home a lot. I remember him coming home one day with a Destiny 2 edition of a PS4 and whenever he was out of town, me and him would meet up in D2 and role with each other for awhile doing strikes and playing crucible. We joined and left a few clans and we ended up starting a clan. Eventually, around the time of Shadowkeep, we stopped playing and moved on to other games, but vanilla Destiny 2 will always have a place in my heart.

[@foreverandalways4771]

That’s awesome

[@Malick-ix9io]

Not like the shitstorm we got today.

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

Aside from the story, D2 launch might as well have been an earlier version of D1 with how bare bones the game actually was

[@FirestormDDash]

Yeah, but those bones fit. Nowadays its a hodgepodge of overkill and gimmicks.

[@callumtaylor-forsey9067]

@@FirestormDDash no, those bones did not fit. Everything felt unnatural when getting loot, and loot is basically the biggest pull of this game.

[@FirestormDDash]

@@callumtaylor-forsey9067 so is combat flow. And the importance of the loot. The loot used to be rare enough that even the small pool was a "grind" to get anything worth holding. Now a days they give you dozens of variations of random guns so you load up your vault with 500 weapons of "fairly good" rolls that may become better *next season* and if something doesnt kill a boss in 2 seconds its not meta. Its honestly the opposite of engaging, enjoyable, or rewarding.

[@thesenate6649]

@@FirestormDDash there were no god rolls my guy, nothing else needs to be said. Boring as fuck, you get the gun once and never need it again. After 2 months of playing there was nothing to do

[@FirestormDDash]

@@thesenate6649 i agree to that point, D1 did it better, simply by rarity and harder content per say. D2 launch honestly had the framework but was to casual focused and simply limited content. Level layout in d2 is something i never grew to accept. Hard content is basicly "lots of npcs in small space". D1 had way more dynamic engagements. Some small spaces with a flood of npcs, sure. But also huge areas with really powetful range snipers. Or boss areanas where your being hunted and pushed. D2 has went the opposite in every regard that drew interest for me. So much loot its all pointless. Unvarying engagements. Faster and faster gunplay.

[@dontstopb-liven4388]

Colonel is Savathun. Just wanted you guys to hear it from me first.

[@reachcole514]

Pvp was in a way healthier state back then

[@ascendant-_-gorilla2400]

NOOOOOO

[@achingbach2904]

The betrayal..

[@dontstopb-liven4388]

@@reachcole514 you obviously did not play back then lol

[@elcompamofle111]

No...no please...

[@unknownplayer03]

I made this video to justify holding onto this footage for all these years... enjoy! 😂❤

[@spider-hero5567]

I played d2 day 1 and hated it and quit the game for a long time after forsaken but after this season started felling the good old day of d1 and its not because vog was there I learned about the later on

[@VenomousR0bot]

I proudly remember bodying people in Crucible left and right in Vanilla and Curse of Osiris with 3-shot Graviton Lance lol 😎

[@jrdotmitch]

Totally worth it man!

[@Baldeaglefacts]

I wanna know what was in the almighty location. I didn't know it was ever in the destinations tab

[@slackstarfish8133]

You make the best Destiny content

[@JP3Gl]

i remember starting up again a week ago and i asked my brother “dude where’s the farm we should play some soccer” and he told me “they removed it” biggest heart break of 2021

[@lordshaxx2177]

They removed the soccer ball from the towers field as well, now all that's left is two goals with no ball

[@doodlebob445]

I miss the farm

[@rimurulime7039]

Dude its 2022 That News Made you even forget what year it was

[@JP3Gl]

@@rimurulime7039 i know, the story took place in 2021 though. i posted this like 7 months ago 😭

[@rimurulime7039]

@@JP3Glpschhhhhhh Same thing thonlamo No what ever

[@JesseIngalls]

The only things I miss are the old planets and having an actual campaign. Idk why they removed the old planets, I would’ve liked to go to them just for a change of scenery from time to time.

[@chrisrenemans5026]

I only miss laser tag weekend lol

[@wesleymessent2499]

Would you install destiny if it was 200g?

[@joemoe650]

@@wesleymessent2499 it's not even the file size ( wich is part of it) it puts huge strain on bungie servers handling planets and activities nobody played

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

@@joemoe650 "It puts strain on servers" You do know theyre only enabled when someone is playing on them right? When you load up a strike on Io or Titan the servers book a slot for your game‚ once you finish it and go back to the tower the slot is gone and replaced.

[@MonstertruckBadass]

@@wesleymessent2499 Storage space is a non issue in today's age?

[@barrettpatout5354]

Aww Mithrax looked so young.

[@unknownplayer03]

Good catch 😉

[@varikstheloyal]

*Misraaks

[@SeezYT]

@@varikstheloyal yea no

[@toxicale72]

@@SeezYT Yea, that is his actual name

[@die4289]

@@SeezYT its because he is variks and variks says misrakks

[@helioszxc]

Please dont ever delete that Destiny footage on your hard drives! Thats literally history !

[@oftengone]

He should put the footage on some cloud drives just in case imo

[@Dreadwolf3]

The legendary "Two tokens and a blue" still haunts my dreams.

[@chrisrenemans5026]

Oh no no no

[@monadoboy9639]

Lmao I remember watching that live so funny

[@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj3]

left after completing the forges on mercury for the sagira shell, came back for worthy and ya know, I love it now, but the EoW and mercury made me leave then during arrivals i fell in love lmfao

[@monadoboy9639]

@@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj3 I really enjoyed eater of worlds the raid lairs have a certain charm to them in hindsight but yeah I can see why people left in curse of Osiris but warmind onwards was amazing

[@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj3]

@@monadoboy9639 more or less i was upset with what i thought would make D2 better than D1, at the time. I'm now a descendant, flawless, and as of my 67th vog clear i am a fatebreaker. I love the game again, EP was great even when armor 2.0 was out and i wanted the cool shotty :p

[@Shortcreeper105]

I remember when getting this game for Christmas in 2017 and I had a blast playing it, truly some game moments I’ll never forget.

[@v2kforever940]

That’s how it was destiny 1

[@Bairom06]

Yeah it was very underrated year 1

[@Bairom06]

I miss year 1 pvp 😭 was Lowkey super fun and trails was balanced

[@andrewsiyaka7449]

Coming back after the 30th anniversary and seeing the star horse is insane that the asset was in there even then

[@cxmfxrtable]

I remember a watching your day one stream when you got vigilance wing

[@unknownplayer03]

OG! 🙏

[@_shane5870]

That was my first exotic

[@thevoid3062]

Yea didn’t he get it from a public event on Titan or something? The public event rewards were insane day 1.

[@m4rcin847]

Ive got day one VW too and catalyst didnt drop to this day... 🤦‍♂️

[@_shane5870]

@@m4rcin847 I got that one

[@_shane5870]

Idk why but i feel HEAVY nostalgia for 2017 destiny 2 even though it wasn’t good

[@baconbitz7804]

I liked it cause people didn’t sweat in crucible and want people having 10+ raid clears

[@VWoodKatic]

@@baconbitz7804 there were at least as many complaints about both of those things. Crucible was unpleasant without a stack, because it was full of sweaty stacks. Stacking was much worse than now because of how much easier it is to get a team of 4 together, and a team of four communicating was basically unbeatable with the slow movement, and scout laning meta. Feel like you can't have played back then.

[@baconbitz7804]

@@VWoodKatic I was mostly thinking about beta tbh launch was fucking terrible

[@khlobbia]

The simplicity of destiny back then was my favorite, now we’ve got all kinds of quests and currencies and abilities etc

[@CouchCit]

Thats because it *was* good, it just wasn't superb. People always think Destiny is never as good as it can be, because we always want more/better from it. Guardians are never content.

[@mr.alpharius6409]

It's slightly shocking to see how little Bungie learned from D1 when they went over to make D2, I'm so SO glad this was changed in forsaken.

[@jamfilledjars]

Only for them to fuck it up again in Shadowkeep :L

[@shepherdrose1351]

If I remember correctly the reasoning for this is simply when development starts. Since development for D2 started before taken king, by the time they made so many good strides a majority of D2 was already done. Under a contract as well, they couldn't really go back and redo it all. This is why triple A publishing sucks.

[@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823]

You make it sound as if D1 was a bad game, is that what your implying?

[@shepherdrose1351]

@@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823 D1 isn't bad by any means by it is definitely seen with rose tinted glasses by the community. As much as I love D1, it had it's fair share of problems that people refuse to acknowledge. Then it creates problems because people then chariot for D1 additions to the game like sunsetting when D2 is such a different game. A majority of D2 players have never played D1 so they'll only ever hear the good about something and end up championing for something they know nothing about.

[@easthorizonfilms]

@@shepherdrose1351 D2 also got rebooted, not to the extent of Destiny 1 in 2013 but it did get soft rebooted. It’s why most of the rise of iron stuff was never brought back up in destiny 2 until long into year 1

[@PejorativeDaedal]

I'm still hoping they'll bring back the Leviathan raids with updated loot tables.

[@emerealm3779]

Yes

[@joshuawhite4113]

It won't return for a long time

[@poiuykkpoii840]

End of D2 my guess, like how D1 ended with the moments of triumphs.

[@joshuawhite4113]

@@poiuykkpoii840 were getting 2 returning raid / locations this year it is possible it could soon but unlikely

[@poiuykkpoii840]

@@joshuawhite4113 one raid returning is either wrath of the machine or kings fall. I’d love kings fall back

[@jasonpollard5889]

I remember preordering the legendary edition and being extremely excited, only to quit after two months because of how dry and bland the whole thing was. I hit max light within 2 weeks, got all the best weapons, and had essentially gotten bored and frustrated with so many of the design options. They dumbed it down to make it easier for new players with the removal of random rolls, and they focused the game on buying cosmetics via eververse. I'm glad they've turned this game around.

[@duck8147]

Exactly, preordered, got max light, beat the calus raid. Haven’t touched it since now which is the witch queen.

[@coranen246]

Ascending the tower in Trials of the Nine was such a cool concept. Now we have a empty and boring platform when you go flawless in Trials of Osiris. I also enjoyed having countdown as a game mode. Everyone now just plays really slow for supers with no penalty.

[@Mintytonin]

D2 2017 feels like a D1 Alpha prototype that I never ever want to remember again

[@Mark-bl6pq]

My favorite time in d2 was during warmind

[@Mintytonin]

@@Mark-bl6pq Warmind was definitely underrated but the rest of y1 is a time I do not wish to remember

[@anthonypotamitis7049]

@@Mark-bl6pq I think Warmind is my favourite expansion... Might sound weird to a lot of people but I had more fun in warmind than in forsaken.

[@Mark-bl6pq]

@@anthonypotamitis7049 I liked warmind and menagerie season

[@DsgSleazy]

@I don't think so! Lmao...what the fuck

[@MisterD0F]

You should definitely do like “Thursdays back in Time” and share all your old content. This is so cool! 🙂

[@e.q.s1137]

OML WHEN I SAW THE LIMITED SHADERS!!! I was taken back to a time where I hoarded shaders because I was always second guessing myself

[@carterstanton6835]

I used to play this game a lot back in D1 and year 1 of D2, but I haven’t really played since week 1 of Forsaken. Everything you talked about in this video is basically all that I know D2 for. The way you considered all of these things to be so weird and different is strange to me because those things are what D2 is to me. I would like to get back into the game, but I can’t imagine just how much I would have to do to get caught up on all that I’ve missed.

[@Kingjsan216]

Seeing where we started and where we are now the evolution of this game is mind blowing

[@shaxxshiraxx476]

Yhea amazing, removing paid content like raids and planets is mind blowing 👍

[@advice7578]

Yeah cheaters now

[@thesenate6649]

At least it’s playable now on console lmao

[@xreduxredx2539]

@@shaxxshiraxx476 We never owned the content itself, we just owned the license to access that content.

[@protogensvisiontimelost254]

@@xreduxredx2539 aka a bs reason for saying "hey we're ripping you off, yeah its your hard earned money and yeah the dlc does say "OWNED by you" but we actually mean just a temporary trial of it"

[@Reksrat]

It's so weird seeing all this old footage. It really does feel like i'm watching a totally different game. Destiny 2 really has come a long way.

[@DaToby98]

The movement is so slow it really annoys me just looking at it 😂😂

[@Sentarry]

2:27 Wow, I completely forgot that shotties were heavy weapons at one time.

[@Doodleschmit]

fascinating video! I played the PC Beta for D2 after feeling like I had missed out entirely on D1. Played a good bit of year one, bought Curse of Osiris and fell out for a while. Been coming back again and again ever since Shadowkeep. REALLY nostalgic for me!

[@Sòl_2716]

definitely do more of these, it's so nice to kind of archive the game throughout it's time.

[@13CrimsonFox]

Played since vanilla D2 and I remember almost nothing of all this. Guess it is so bad that my brain blocked it from my memory to protect my sanity. I am glad where we are with D2 right now

[@b9wolfer827]

D2 is shit now Period

[@Xpozc]

me to I forgot any of this stuff existed

[@thatoneguy2136]

For me it was the other way around, I only played D2 at launch and stopped before the first mini Expansion came out. Came back post Beyond light. Had all my sunset gear on and was like wtf where do I start. All the changes were so overwhelming but exciting to discover. I like where Destiny is at right now but I’ll admit. I wish I could play the original campaign again cuz I really really enjoyed it

[@gregdennert4441]

@@b9wolfer827 no

[@b9wolfer827]

@@gregdennert4441 dude there is no content in d2 just repetitive things to do and PVP is in literally a bad state(i am a competitive player) my clan used to be mostly active(like 30 people) everytime but now its just me and my friend, same goes for my friendlist(it used to be like 90 92 may be more people in my friendlist playing this game all time now it is just handful of people). I mean if you are new player or came back to destiny after a long break, then sure d2 is good there is content for you but for us its just boring and Being a PVP player crucible is seriously ruined by Cheaters and cringe no skill load outs, plus since the quickdraw nerf people just keep hold shotties out like they holding their black DIG BICKS in hands, just aping and there is no team balancing, servers are shit. THERE ARE WEAPONS AND SUPERS THAT DOES DMG BEHIND THE FOOKING WALL. So yeah d2 is shit Period.

[@dylanrichards1608]

Jesus I still remember grinding my ass off to get the mida for trials of the nine. How time flies

[@Fumikairain]

The flashbacks with mida

[@thefriend4187]

still remember exploring titan and all the other locations for the first time. i wish i could go back

[@DaToby98]

They really removed alot if you think abt it, but im pretty saure atleast some of it will return

[@Alpha.Phenix]

@@DaToby98 And by the time it returns it will be gone again.

[@lucidluhx6088]

@@Alpha.Phenix that makes no sense

[@saverofthehumens]

@@lucidluhx6088 Bungo's decisionmaking has stopped making sense long ago. Now we just got a smorgasbord of nonsense as a game. There's no cohesion whatsoever, just three totally separate campaigns: Forsaken, substantial and pretty good. Shadowkeep, lost sectors electric boogaloo and then.. Beyond Content. Just spam stasis and the bosses keel over with literally no effort from the player's part. It's a complete joke.

[@lucidluhx6088]

@@saverofthehumens the game is an amazing spot rn, ur blind

[@rinimcreations]

Leviathan actually ended up being my favorite raid because it wasnt just "run-kill boss-run-kill boss". It gave so much more co-opping with your team mates, where everyone had a purpose, instead of what I would call today; "being carried by titans thundercrash", along with friendly "complains" about "why you main hunter? Switch to titan! We do more damage". In leviathan this didnt matter. And that is what made it so awesome! 💕 Hashtag -> Gauntlet! 😏

[@864fanta9]

I liked everything about leviathan except gauntlet, not saying gauntlet was bad, I just had waaaaay too many wipes on that encounter to have ever liked it, but my favorite raid encounters of all time through d1 and d2 have to be dogs from leviathan, and war priest for sure from kings fall, the 2 hugest and most expansive raids ever have to be leviathan and kings fall, leviathan had the underbelly, which was so massive that you could literally go so far away from your team mates that your gamer tag doesn’t even show up anymore, it was so big they fit ANOTHER RAID inside of it, it was so big that if you got left behind in the under belly it was actually faster to just leave and join back than to try to make your way through it, even with the year 1 comically slow load times, and kings fall was also really huge it just had a singular path to take through the raid that had to be followed so it didn’t allow for too much exploration like leviathan did

[@MrSteamedchicken]

Leviathan only had a boss at the end. So idk what raid you were playing to run-kill boss, run-kill boss

[@rinimcreations]

​@@MrSteamedchicken Did you read my comment wrong by any chance? Yes. It had only one boss. But it also had 3 sections you had to go through which didnt have bosses. And instead of "pipe run" the order of those sections changed each week. So to quote myself here; "it wasnt just "run-kill boss-run-kill boss" _WASNT_!!!

[@chrisrenemans5026]

Personally out of all raids I gotta say Crota was my number one. The riad it self was ehhh, but just the raiding culture it made was why it was so good to me

[@MrSteamedchicken]

@@chrisrenemans5026 Destiny 1 raiding culture was the one

[@Seeeyog]

I never focused that much on the details of story missions, mainly red war and almighty mission (just started playing) until bungie removed them, they were so well done and nice!

[@devorizer5959]

I really wished they kept all the content knowing some people won’t experience it is kinda ass

[@drewblood3530]

Yeah no more red war campaign. They just throw you right into the story

[@devontricmoore]

The red war showed how vulnerable guardians can be.

[@deathbringer5312]

Good ol whisper and outbreak offering a free exotic for doing a simple mission

[@papaspaulding]

I went from playing d1 for many years to only just jumping into d2 in jan this year so was basically "eh?....wtf?" as was expecting a whole red war story line as per what i remember of d2 trailers back in the day

[@somerandomnamehere6011]

It would be way to much space

[@kellysmith1144]

The only thing I think you missed was that energy weapons had the element change ability. I think my vault still contains my Arc Requiem and the original Void example.

[@Alpha.Phenix]

I somehow have a Void damage Badlands shotgun, and it is *not* getting dismantled.

[@slisel033190]

Oh yea, the knucklehead radar was amazing in competitive/trials at the very end of your one. Not sure if you remember but you had no radar

[@CouchCit]

Yeah no radar was the worst

[@KuroneRaiju]

Pretty sure Gemini Jesters was the cause of the radar being taken out in trials lol

[@Mecho42]

I searched KZbin for footage of destiny 2 vanilla gameplay and i saw your video and you gave me exactly everything I was hoping to see. Just seeing how far destiny 2 has come is crazy. Sometimes it’s hard to remember what was part of destiny 1 and the early years of destiny 2 lol just because the game changed completely. I still wish we could change the element to guns. That was so fun and I still have all 3 elements of uriels gift in my vault lol

[@sethmason8570]

"Graviton lance was pretty bad" That gun two tapped in crucible with no other buff required, it was one of the only guns you ever saw really.

[@bluyu]

Nah, it never two tapped, but it does have a two-round burst and used to have three before Warmind. It was broken after the buff because it became easier to land the final hit, which had infinite range. A primary weapon having that fast of a TTK was unheard of until Forsaken when Kindled Orchid became a thing.

[@ayzen8971]

Some Year 1 ornaments were pretty damn good, Trials of the nine(s2), Iron banner season 2/3, crucible ornaments, some faction rally ones, wish bungie would give those who designed those armor ornaments for future seasons a go again, as they did fantastic job on these ornaments, wish bungie would put armor ornaments in these activities again :/

[@looksnormal]

they will probably never have earnable cosmetics again because eververse. Those sets were really great though, really sucks most of the new armor and armor in general looks like trash

[@neothedivine6373]

Well, they're starting too. Trials of the nine armor loot can be acquired from the prophecy dungeon. Not the flawless variant tho.

[@saverofthehumens]

@@looksnormal Remember all those complaints about nickling and diming in the game around year 1 especially with that disastrous dawning event? Yeah it's happening again see. That's what happens when you go f2p.

[@psythen4562]

The problem is coming off of destiny 1 year 3 and seeing the massive regression in armor, ornaments is just disappointing, Bungie still hasn’t topped age of triumph ornaments and destiny’s amour design

[@Reksrat]

I remember when i first beat leviathan and being stunned that calus was a robot. That blew my freaking mind as a kinderguardian.

[@Hi-jy5ux]

So your in 4th grade

[@imagoloop4819]

The day is started playing d2 I remember seeing xur on Titan, he had wardcliff coil. But I didn’t have any legendary shards as I just started playing

[@still444]

Were you also asian and in VC with a rude person

[@imagoloop4029]

I remember my first exo drop being merciless. Perfect for the dogs in Leviathan

[@AttiMatter]

Man you have one of the cleanest, sleekest just simple and impactful channel banners that perfectly captures Destiny.

[@CaptainRexCT--rd7eq]

There was so much things that are different, one thing I miss was that in the first year we still had 2 rocket's in 1 launcher. Oh god especially since The Wardcliff Coil absolutely killed an entire team of 6 with 2 rockets!

[@Dialandhands]

Really enjoyed the vid!! I only started playing destiny religiously in season 10 and haven’t stopped since. It makes me wish I would’ve been playing it all this time to experience how the game has evolved since then.

[@BrainWasherAttendent]

You should do more, would love to see each year in review. Raid lairs, dungeons and whatnot.

[@crazyninja0958]

If we could have a revitalized red war as a beginning campaign now, that would be so awesome

[@looksnormal]

an entirely new mini campaign that doesn't have you visit every planet like D1 and y1 D2 would be good for new players, and we basically gave this with new light

[@fissilepear7805]

@@looksnormal new light is an extended tutorial, we need an actual campaign for new players

[@Alpha.Phenix]

I would like to take this moment to remind you that new lights currently don't have *any* campaigns; and the only availabe raid is VoG; and way too many good strikes were killed; and eververse shaders cost a fortune now... We came down here as a squad of nine... got sunset one by one. Watched Bungie vault the farm off of EDZ, and delete the football field...

[@saverofthehumens]

@@fissilepear7805 For that you have to buy three separate campaigns. *Yes, Activision so was the problem.*

[@protogensvisiontimelost254]

@@saverofthehumens Bungie was the problem and 2022 proves that lol.

[@italianterror3329]

Holy shit bro I haven't been suggested an Unknown Player video since Destiny2 launch. So glad to see you still at it.

[@thewitchkingofangmar9195]

I have been looking for this for weeks. Thank you

[@GeometryDashArcticat]

I still will never forget what they did to my baby Graviton Lance... Before the Warmind DLC in Y1, Graviton Lance used to be a 3-burst weapon but then they made it 2-burst later on. Yeah it was meta during Warmind, but I was definitely in the minority because I did not like it. This gun was considered trash before Warmind and yet it got me my first We Ran Out of Medals and it got me flawless in Trials of the Nine during Vanilla D2. Plus it sounded better imo. Making it a 2-burst weapon made it feel worse for me and it didn't sound as good to me. Still, a trip down memory lane when I was still a sophomore and would jump on D2 24/7 when I came back from school lol.

[@FirestormDDash]

*stay outta my shed*

[@flakooo]

Ikr graviton lance was Literraly meta back in the day I don’t know what he’s on about

[@GeometryDashArcticat]

@@flakooo he was talking about Vanilla Destiny 2. Where MIDA multi tool, Uriel's gift, Last Hope, and Better Devils were the meta of D2. In Vanilla, that's when Graviton was a 3-burst. It stayed a 3-burst during Curse of Osiris but then changed during Warmind, where it became meta.

[@joeynamikaze6578]

Graviton Lance was dogshit until they made it a 2 burst. You are the minority buddy lol

[@GeometryDashArcticat]

@@joeynamikaze6578 and I acknowledge that lol. I'm just sharing an unpopular opinion of mine.

[@KadeNoMula]

It's been a journey guys, I'm happy we've come this far, now, let's keep going.

[@hmx8694]

A full year later and I still really admire this guy's attitude

[@MTR-po8jl]

Really enjoyed the Leviathan Raid and the Raid Lairs. The WoW mission was also incredible. Good times!

[@dommar5447]

Thank you for doing this. It's crazy how much content and storylines you forget over time.

[@HeyItsDray]

Intellect, Discipline and Strength weren't added into the game until Shadowkeep with armor 2.0, not Forsaken.

[@friccle_]

I greatly dislike how no one got anything when the planets were sunset You had to pay for those dlcs and they deleted them and their planets, and you dont even get an emblem for a “thank you” it just makes me really mad

[@robertreyes0825]

Thank you. I've been saying this since they took the planets away. It would have been alright for me if they gave us a emblem or a emote or something like that for playing from then to now. But they just took them away and gave nothing back either.

[@anthonypotamitis7049]

@@robertreyes0825 Yeah, some recognition that we actually paid for those expansions back in the day.

[@looksnormal]

vets didn't get anything exclusive like they did in D1, either. Really seems like they don't appreciate your time

[@anthonypotamitis7049]

@@looksnormal I know right?

[@saladv6069]

Should be sued for it

[@nd8490]

I remember my better devils,uriels gift and perfect paradox shotty loadout. Sometimes I miss yr 1 D2,especially crucible. It was the most gun focused and balanced we had ever seen pvp in Destiny.

[@ExpertRam]

Wish they’d at least bring back the y1 feel with a rotating crucible game mode or something

[@nd8490]

@@ExpertRam Same.I loved when it was classic mix pvp with control,supremacy and clash. Then they just dumped supremacy which I enjoyed more than control.

[@Wntstoriseup]

I know a lot of people give early D2 a lot of shit but personally I always loved stacking the challenge card for Nightfall Runs to 100K and having a 15 minute timer and trying to blow through as fast as I could with a fire team where we would have certain sets of guns and run very specific gear admittedly it was tedious but I have some really good memories from it.

[@made4460]

gosh, miss leviathan so much. i have so many great memories of going in there with my clan friends and trying to firgure out all of the mechanics. now that clan has been dissolved, my friends moved on from destiny altogether. but I'll forever cherish those memories, even if i will have to play this game alone from now on

[@Metroidfreek]

Ahh the nameless midnight, goated gun

[@almighty5839]

God it’s been 4 years how time flies I miss vanilla d2

[@advice7578]

I actually liked d2 year 1 similar to cammy cakes, pvp was about aim with primaries

[@alter6243]

The issue is how poorly these issues effected everything else in the game as well. Guns were too boring. Especially when Destiny players were notorious for the lengths they would go for loot. I don't know how anyone at Bungie saw the need to remove weapon rng. However I do agree the gun play wasn't terrible. Had year one had random rolls or at least more perks on weapons I feel like it would have been received decently well pvp wise. I'm honestly a little sick of special ammo myself at the moment. I feel like gaining two potentially one shots from dying while also being able to get a ton of ammo off a single brick thanks to scavenger mods is way too rewarding. I also feel like double primary should be a viable option.

[@Kirokill1]

You had time to think about the engagements. My reflexes can’t respond fast enough to how hectic & fast the 6v6 scene is.

[@HibiscusOrchid]

Yeah, but unfortunately that lead to camping, team shooting meta. I agree the secondary weapons are rampant right now but having pure primary duels isnt any better. I hated D1 crucible at its final stages because specials were as sparse like heavies. Something in between that and current secondary frequencies would be the better spot but not either or. And no, I dont want any specials meta, not even sniper meta which I would say is much worse than shotgun. At least with close range weapons you can run or gain distance, with snipers you can and will die the moment you peek your head out. Hated the sniper meta in D1

[@Sohelanthropus]

Same bro, loved that sandbox

[@alter6243]

@@HibiscusOrchid I feel like specials or abilities need to be adjusted. You can't have both of them be as strong as they are now. Special makes up for missing your abilities and abilities make up for missing your special. There are a lot of good primaries don't get me wrong. But in a lot of game modes you can entirely rely on your special.

[@deusvultpictures6550]

I quit Destiny 2 in October 2017, this is raw for me

[@RickyFairside]

Oh wow... what a flashback man. It's crazy to see how much the game evolved and how I felt at the time. I skipped all of D1 because I was hooked on Battlefield and COD at the time. But I defended the hell out of D2 and always had high hopes that it would get better. Nah bro, just give it time, trust me it will get better. Despite all the slack and negativity this game gets from the general public, it's hands down my favorite game. It's just so good. Thanks for taking me down memory lane with this clip. Much appreciated 🙏🏼

[@xpyrotics]

Yes please, do more! Taken King is so fuzzy for me and I remember when ppl were finding out stuff left and right when content drops but legit so much changed from vanilla destiny to taken king

[@mrwolf2603]

I really want them to bring back every year 1 thing, I personally believe that the game was far more enjoyable for the first 2 years, when beyond light released it removed the best raids and campaigns. I hope that they bring back the old raids and old campaigns.

[@poiuykkpoii840]

My guess is they will do what they did at the end of D1, and do the whole year of triumphs thing where they added every raid etc. I feel they will do this after lightfall

[@psythen4562]

The only raids that even compare to any of the raids in destiny 1 from the first two years of destiny 2 are scourge of the past and last wish, red war’s campaign was a drag with annoying characters and only 3 good and interesting missions within, curse of Osiris’ campaign was a joke, warmind’s campaign was an absolute embarrassment and forsaken’s campaign was only ok, it only had like 4 actual missions and like 8 or more adventures.

[@cultok]

@@psythen4562 laughable take being real

[@originalcookiedog]

I remember being so excited hearing the leviathan come out because it’s my favourite raid

[@drewblood3530]

I miss the orange/gold aura you got from having a high nightfall score!!! Also they should re implement this for Grand Master NFs! Just a cool cosmetic flair ... I'm a sucker for anything that can make your gaurdian glow :3

[@adamwatkins7517]

I remember when Curse of Osiris dropped and we got our first trace rifle after months MIDA dominated crucible, and how broken crucible was for about 3 days. All those F'ing tokens, MIDA crucible and Noob callouts in the void realm of the final encounter of Leviathan...Man, I don't miss that even a little bit. Great work my dude! Cheers from another Destiny OG!

[@durandus676]

I liked the double primary side effects, like how all your exotic primaries were valid DPS options. I kinda wish end game guns had a large fixed pool you had to unlock perks in like D1. Because I’m sick of grinding adept Palis and only getting high impact reserves. I want Leviathan back.

[@Kenji-117]

I remember my first day when i reached light lvl 260 in the first 22 hrs and doing every pinacle activity.. then after 2 weeks i had every exotic weapon acquireable through engrams 😂 it was a weird state for destiny. Only thing i really miss are the planets, leviathan and trials of the nine with the first map. I enjoyed it much more than trials of osiris

[@dustyfedora]

I almost forgot that the only armor stats were Recovery, Mobility, and Resilience.

[@Grand_Master_Skywalker]

They need to bring back Faction Rallies

[@odonnellshane77]

I think Bungie said that they're not bringing them back because they can't come up with something meaningful to do with them and they don't just want token farming again. If they did though, I wonder how many people would go back to FWC after all that's happened?

[@Kjf365]

People would join FWC just to throw the competition lol.

[@looksnormal]

we kinda already have faction loot as open world drops, also the loot was nice, but the events gave nothing to do

[@vectorshot3072]

Ehh considering all the factions mainly FWC is known as massive racist, i dont think anyone wants to support them ...and if so it like Dead orbit: Let gtfo before another collapse Future war cult: Racism in our blood New Monarchy: tbh idk what they worship/ideals i just remember siding with them for basically the Red version of calus selected

[@thewanderer6984]

It was nice having fixed roles cause when you finally got that weapon you wanted, you know it had the perks you wanted since it was fixed. But yeah, I agree the replay value due to that was impacted since you couldn't "grind" but I miss how easy it was to get exotics. Sadly bungie changed it later on

[@kamilandzi]

Every now and then I see this in my recommended, despite watching it a few times already. I still often watch these regardless lol. Would love a part 2

[@robinwells5343]

This reminds me why I stopped playing destiny 2 for so long. The current iteration is so much better. Pvp balancing is the only thing that is embarrassingly bad in destiny 2 as it stands now

[@imbadatpickinganame]

I refuse to acknowledge that destiny 2 has been getting "updated" for the better, because that is just complete bs. Im not saying destiny 2 isnt a better game, it definitely is, but heres my point. all of destiny 2's "updates" that have lead it to be the game we have now, we already had back in destiny 1. If youre new to destiny and completely unaware, at destiny 2's launched, they did something so mind numbingly stupid that they spent the better part of three years trying to recover their playerbase. Im not sure if this genuinely happened so take this with a grain of salt, but comparing destiny 1 to destiny 2, i feel like a lot of bungies dev team just outright resigned. destiny 1 had the primary, special and heavy ammo system were all now acustom to. In destiny 2s launch for absolutely no reason and without even remote hints from the community that anyone wanted the game to go this way, all the special ammo weapons you know and love now were heavy weapons. Whilst the majority of destinys playerbase is PvE, the PvP is what gives the game replayable value. The more you read into it the more you come to find that it seems like bungie couldnt give less of a shit about the state of their PvP sandbox. Next is a slight and personal pet peeve about armour. Most of the best looking armour is locked behind paywalls. You might not see an issue with that but when fashion is a large part of your games community, youd think the one thing youd want to keep on top of is armour designs. Compare destiny 1 raid armours with destiny 2 raid armours and you might understand what i mean. A lot of people in destiny 1s community adored that you could come out of vault of glass, look at a fully geared guardian and say, "hey, thats the vault of glass armour". Most of the raid armour in destiny 2 is sub par at best, as if in, i could walk past it without recognising it as raid gear. I will say that the new raid that just came out had some pretty decent pieces so hopefully were going in the right direction there. Another thing to note is supers. the system we had before void 3.0 as we can all agreee was god awful. this was another change bungie made at launch of destiny 2 without warning or reason. It seemed to me that a lot of these changes were to even the playing field in PvP despite them doing quite the opposite. In destiny one, youd find a system arguably better than the fragments system we have now and i say that because of the variety, i dont recall exactly but youd have maybe 45 total options to customise your subclass. though that sounds overbearing, it really wasnt. To my recollection there were 3 types of nova bombs for the voidwalkers, just to make an example. One thing i cant exactly measure but only tell you from experience is that classes feel very choked as oppose to destiny 1, if i play a titan, i am forced to play a certain way to even make it worth playing a titan, this applies less so for warlocks and hunters as they have a much more diverse kit than titans, though hunters have vastly more utility than any other class objectively speaking. To reiterate my point, i dont like that bungie is reverting back god awful changes that they made under the guise of them being "new" and not just holding their hands up and saying "we fucked up, we dont know what were doing, were sorry". My words may sound harsh but they come from a place of love, ive played destiny since it launched, destiny 2 is only just getting to where it should have been at launch.

[@brettgmonroe]

As a new player (started playing earlier this year), it's interesting to see the changes and how rough D2 really was. I think Bungie really missed a huge opportunity to make something truly unique. I think if they had allowed players to choose a faction-based character (Hive, Fallen, Human, Awoken) and made different campaigns, goals, loot, etc for each but still share crucible and Gambit, D2 would be truly rad. Oh well. At least we get to play the same strikes 10k times.

[@dazg6528]

Great vid... Some things have changed, maybe worth looking at it again and finding what has NOT changed in so many years.

[@Skigz]

I never had the opportunity to play Destiny 1 and then I got an XB1 for christmas in 2017. I remember some of this but I wasn't around for OG D2 for sure. Cool to see how much tings have changed since then, little bittersweet because I miss some of the locations, like when I got my friend into D2 I took him to the bowels of the facility on Titan to show him the sea monster... Crazy to see that it's come such a long way to where we're at right now, talking to Savathun herself and eventually facing her finally. One thing hasn't changed in the almost 4 years since *I* started playing Destiny 2, and that's how much I love it.

[@CouchCit]

The static rolls, that was the most ass backwards decision that I just never understood. I remember when they announced static rolled weapons on stage at an E3 and the community applauded it, I thought I was in Bizarro world. Thank God they nixed that dumb idea.

[@littlejohn-pi7kk]

Yep and they applauded the 4v4 announcement as well. Everyone drank the coolaid. Nobody had the balls to question it. Remember those streamers telling everyone it’s Bungie let’s wait and see and still saying the same crap after playing the beta. D1 was a better game at that time.

[@edims6001]

Static PVP rolls are really good for the competitive modes, but for pve it sucks ass

[@CouchCit]

@@littlejohn-pi7kk yep, totally

[@joeynamikaze6578]

@@littlejohn-pi7kk 4v4 is better than 6v6. That’s one thing they still need to do. Or give us maps that are better suited for 6v6. They also need to restrict special ammo to boxes like D1 so people can’t just crutch on their shotguns. Until then we’ll be stuck with the shit show 120 and shotgun meta.

[@looksnormal]

better than farming one activity 100 times because I can't get two perks to drop together. Since random rolls it definitely feels like the better ones have a much lower chace to roll

[@ZayOsirisGaming]

We’re Essentially playing Destiny 3 Content in Destiny 2 now

[@freshoutafolsom20]

I miss when nameless midnight was a good scout and merciless melted bosses but I definitely don't miss D2Y1 as a whole

[@moist_blue]

I miss year one,the fact that gun play was so much more important made it really fun.

[@foist101]

So bitter sweet because the production value was soo high but the gameplay was such a massive step back.

[@TheBillhs]

wonder what went through their heads when they made all weapons static...what did they think we played destiny for?the unbalanced pvp and the shit pve ai?

[@DaToby98]

Good example why Catering to Casuals doesnt work out at all in a game like Destiny

[@horrorfan117]

"Imagine having to slap someone three times in melee." _Uses Titan's inconsistent melee that has never been fixed_ Yeah... Imagine that...

[@hansi9837]

🤡

[@sniper007uk]

Wow - looking back it’s amazing so many of us stayed with the game. I remember taking a break for a while and until I saw this I had forgotten why. Loving these last two seasons though, so long may it continue :-)

[@juanpablochamorro1765]

The nostalgia. But jokes apart, thanks dude! I played the original Destiny and the first year of Destiny 2. Now I've came back just last month and I found myself with a really different game. Just moments ago, before watching your video, I was wondering what happened with Io and Titan, and it just turns out that Bungie deleted them and replaced them. Thanks dude, I needed to update myself!

[@brandocks3763]

I've been around since the Red War and I cannot remember what life was like before sunsetting... I didn't even realize that the weapons were only primary ammo, let alone no random rolls

[@ARavingLobster]

They got rid of so much beauty from this game. :(

[@noticeddamian]

Destiny always becomes boring when Luke smith is making the big decisions.

[@samvakarian]

Oh damn guiding star. and at 2:43 was that the OG valakadyn? I loved that 720.

[@jonaswalsethbarseth3112]

You’ve just unlocked so many memories for me, thank you

[@andrewmarshall2075]

Brings back so many good memories, so much time spent in that Beta too absolutely farming the hell out of inverted spire. And remember when we first got access to the farm and folks spent effing hours playing around there at football and jumping around with the special jump stuff. Jeez, I miss the farm.

[@newb529]

Omg I forgot about this channel I've been subbed since 100ish k subs. Wow this has changed a lot! Keep working I feel old now haha

[@TheWitherhoard]

Really needed this. I started playing the game a year ago. Cheers bro

[@tomgargan8339]

For me, I would just go planet to planet doing public events, especially on Io. Probably the most fun I’ve had in destiny yet looking back I’m not sure why.

[@BadmanReviews]

man I really loved the Glows we got for nightfalls/trials and raids that you show at the end of the vid. Sucks they got rid of them, I remember there used to be a slot at one point on our character for them. Also What I do for huge files I've had for a while but don't wanna lose I'll take them into Adobe and trim the fat of anything that I don't think is important, Maybe cut all the intros but one, remove some rounds of gameplay and then render that and delete the original.

[@jonnyc212121]

This right here is the biggest difference between Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. You think back to early D1, maybe you go and watch that old what you missed in your one video, and it's great. You remember all the great times running race with your buddies, getting those strike specific drop. You remember when you finally got the gjallarhorn. Reminiscing is great. You think back to year 1 of D2 and you throw up in your mouth a little bit.

[@jonnyc212121]

Don't lie to the new lights. We got double primaries and slow Guardians because the streamers complained about grenades for 3 years.