Unlocking a new rare species: Fruiting Persimmon Bonsai

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@DeciduousSnurb 3 ай бұрын

Jelle, if you do happen to get fruit in time, it will not have viable seeds without a male persimmon. You could possibly find someone who has a male tree and get a dormant cutting to graft onto one of the trunks/branches of your female tree. Persimmon trees are easy to graft, I've had some of the greatest grafting success with them (after buds have swollen.)

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

That is such a sensible idea! I had not thought about doing this. I love it!

@andrei-silviusontu9911 3 ай бұрын

Love the enthusiasm about the sprouting seeds and the flower buds coming along. I can relate. Congratulations on all the new tiny plants!

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! It starts with appreciation for the plants, and ends with an ancient tree. And all steps are enjoyable!

@alvarolupinacci641 3 ай бұрын

Awesome. I am from Brazil and I also have a persimmon here. What I have learned is that they don't take drought very well. There are several varieties considering the flower/fruit issue. People that sell them here in Brazil not always know exactly the variety considering the flower/fruit issue. I was succeful leaving a big root that I pruned planted. It started budding out and is a new tree now.

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips!

@JohnThurlbeck 3 ай бұрын

Great to see you working on a species I had not seen before and also being so philosophical about a failed expereiment. Well done! 👍

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I feel you need to learn from every failure, and you can grow and improve that way!

@bobmccarlie382 2 ай бұрын

How do you over winter persimmon? Can they freeze?

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

I need to verify as it is a new species for me. I was told it is slightly frost hardy

@mchlbk 18 күн бұрын

I have two different persimmons unprotected in the ground in Denmark, frost hasn't been s problem so far. We had -12° Celsius + wind for a while last winter and they didn't seem to mind. The leaves and fruit on Jelle's persimmon are a little different from mine, I don't know if different varieties differ in frost hardiness... They do tend to get fungal issues in very wet weather. We had a lot of rain last spring and as a result the leaves looked quite spotty for the rest of the season. Perhaps it's treatable, I dont know.

@binbin9 3 ай бұрын

Great video ! I like how you maximize everything and dont let anything go to waste.

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

:) It really is an addiction to propagate!

@DeciduousSnurb 3 ай бұрын

I have a collected American Persimmon with a multi trunk like yours but it's fruit (if female) will be bigger more the size of a medium crabapple so not too big, if not I will graft female scion to the trunks. You probably already have heard this but a great way to propagate your princess persimmon is from root cuttings! I was watching at 10:51 and was like "Jelle nooo! don't remove the root!" 😆

@DeciduousSnurb 3 ай бұрын

Also from our native persimmon Diospyros virginiana I have 0% success rooting twig cuttings.

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

It is odd though! I did want to try and grow it. But.. Next repot I can retry!? Any tips?

@danielfonseca5007 3 ай бұрын

I've only seen Persimmon done by a few Japanese KZbinrs, Kimiko from Kimiko's bonsai has a couple that she uses to breed, male and female versions. So cool trying species like that, would love to get my hands on a pair of those

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

I am still after a male plant, which would probably help. But agreed they are rarer outside of Asia.

@laddieokelley6095 3 ай бұрын

I have marked a native (Texas) persimmon sapling on my property for digging late winter/early spring. The fruits are smaller than Japanese persimmon but the leaves are large. It will be an experiment but probably not an excellent bonsai. I also have many jujube saplings, though never saw this tree used for bonsai.

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Interesting! I think I have seen one or two, but it is similar to full size apples: The scale mismatch quickly reduces the bonsai-feeling.

@fatstratcatdaddyo 3 ай бұрын

I collected some D. viginiana fruits that fell after a storm... a native persimmon in my area, South Carolina... gonna try to germinate the seeds. It also prompted me to inspect my Princess Persimmon that is in a 1 gallon nursery can... 5 feet tall!!! So I'll be bumping that up ti a 3 gallon pot, and cutting some of the sucker growth that has exploded. There are even roots in the ground under the pot... I'm glad I checked, so I owe a tip of the hat to you!!!

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Love escape roots!

@ChillGuyBonsai 3 ай бұрын

Great video so far, I got a cup of tea in my left and my phone in my right. Keep up the good work! Love from all the way in South Africa 🇿🇦

@aidencapps 3 ай бұрын

😊 God bless you sir!

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

ooohw.. South Africa! So great! I spent months in north Kruger at one point, studying Mopane chemistry!

@ChillGuyBonsai 2 ай бұрын

@GrowingBonsai interesting! I'm from the Western Cape. I stay on the coast, so it doesn't get as hot as Kruger, so I am able to keep a few more tree species.

@ChillGuyBonsai 2 ай бұрын

@@aidencapps God bless you too!

@aidencapps 3 ай бұрын

Truly stunning!

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@dropbearpig3223 3 ай бұрын

Your videos showing progression over 12 - 18 months are fantastic. Please keep making them. Cheers from Australia.

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do! I have a few in the making. Where in my second home country do you live? Uunfortunately, will not make it there this year.

@dropbearpig3223 2 ай бұрын

@@GrowingBonsai I’m on the north shore of Sydney. If you come to Aus for “Bonsai”, it’ll be great to see your demos etc. cheers Emil

@HellcrushPlays 3 ай бұрын

Always good stuff

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Love!

@jaiprakashpathak8974 3 ай бұрын

Great research work👍

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

Many many thanks

@mchlbk 18 күн бұрын

An interesting species. I grow them in the ground for the fruit. Unfortunately I've had 0% success in airlayering them, it would be nice to use airlayers for bonsai and get fruit right away.

@GrowingBonsai 10 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing; It is odd how hard these are to propagate other than from seed.

@patrick.bastiaensen 3 ай бұрын

he Jelle zijn die eetbaar?

@GrowingBonsai 2 ай бұрын

I do think so. Have not tried them, but in principle, yes. Do not act upon this answer though..

@bricker918 3 ай бұрын

I’ve also heard they don’t need a male but everyone I know with princess persimmons that produce a ton of fruit have a male in their garden. I got a male and now have fruit every year. Hopefully one of the seedlings is a male!(you will know in 13-16 years!😂)

@GrowingBonsai 3 ай бұрын

@@bricker918 One of the seedlings should be male. But yeah. Which ones! Persimmon forest? am fairly sure that even if it can fruit without, with a male it will be better.

@FrostBiteBonsai 15 күн бұрын

Oh wow! This is a very neat tree as well! Perhaps some of your seedlings will be male! Although that grafting comment seems like it would be more fun for you!

@GrowingBonsai 10 күн бұрын

Fingers crossed! I might have both male plants, and try some grafting :)