Upgrading Often vs Future Proofing - Which is Better?

[@gamerjamessss]

Honestly, this is a good topic to cover as a standalone video on the main channel. Love the content!

[@jandevocht]

Upvote this! Enough old cpu generations to compare with.

[@vi_EviL_iv]

@@jandevocht Agreed. I would like to see a 2 or 3 gen old system vs the new gen system. How would it look on paper when building a high end and after 3 years it becomes a top middle end if that makes sense.

[@simmyqux]

I'm a tinkerer, so the upgrade often route is great for me, but dang that is hard in this market.

[@ifrit35]

In terms of graphics card yeah. Used or new it's all over the place. CPU market is ok in my area minus ram prices that are creeping up.

[@vibue2415]

Me too.. and I hate it, I can spend a hole day in scouting used parts..

[@269bp]

Same here! I enjoy building PC's.

[@emtmcg]

People. It’s your money, do with it what you want, and never feel you have to justify it to anybody on the Internet.

[@FerrumBellator]

That is exactly what I do, every year or 2 I build a computer for a friend or family member and sell them my old stuff for a hell of a deal. This also results in me have lots of extra stuff as it snow balled and got me to fixing and updating friends of friends computers. End result built a few pc from extra stuff and sold them to fuel my addiction even further.

[@davidcortes7235]

^this 100%

[@ifrit35]

Yes !

[@BeastlyBen007]

Yup that's what I do. I got a good coworker I sell my old quality pc parts to and he gets a good deal and I get funds necessary to upgrade enough to make it worth for me and we both win. I feel that's the best way to go about it.

[@kaseyboles30]

To me it depends on where the tech is. For the last few years ling term builds made more sense. Now that we're closing on a major tech shift (pcie3-4-5 and soon ddr5, and both gpu's and cpu's advancing fast) shorter term make more sense.

[@haukionkannel]

I always leave first generation of new tech... to someone else. They pay more and get semi beta products. And I am Also Person who keeps same Computer 6 to 10 years. With some small quality facelift along the way. My previous pc was 4 core phenom2. Did go from 8 Gb of memory to 16 and the Computer did see three or four different GPUs along the way. Uograde from pure hd setup, including two ssd also. But the basics did stay the same all the time. Now I have 8 core 3700x with 64Gb of ram and some terabytes of ssd and enough hd... with 5700xt... it will serve Many years and I only need gpu upgrade at 2023 or 2024 or 2025 depending on how industry develops. If situation get really bad I may upgrade to 16 core cpu... when 5950is old stuff... but not sure if I really need that... So opening the case for dusting... not for anything else in the meanwhile. I have better things ro do ;)

[@kaseyboles30]

@@haukionkannel all fair points. If your core is solid that works well. Wouldn't count being able to get a news 5950 past 2023-2024 though. It might happens, buy with actual competition between and and Intel, plus both facuing threats from arm and perhaps riscv the life cycles and shelf lives are shortening. Be a while before we hit anoth slow growth period like 2012ish-2017ish.

[@yurimodin7333]

Personally I quit the whole keep up with the Jones on PC tech and I am on the "does my computer do what I want" philosophy.

[@karlwilhelmge]

It is funny how in this market, if the price is reasonable, one has to recommend RX 470/570/480/580 yet again. And a lot of other channels are still recommending them. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[@dhan1001]

Yep, here i am just buying 2nd rx 580 while waiting for the price to become reasonable or we have something at 400$ that actually in stock

[@kaseyboles30]

Except now those cards have jacked up prices as well. An rx580 is up to 300us now and it was only 190 a few months ago. Gonna wait till there is a

[@chargedonpc9989]

@@dhan1001 look on eBay for the xfx rx 580 I’ve heard it’s not a great variant but it should be fine and it’s 200 dollars new on ebay

[@mikeymaiku]

I watched a guy pick up 12 rx 580s because they are one of the few cards that dont have a purchasing limit

[@SuperOAFMAN]

I hope intel's new apu coming could rival a 580

[@tatt2jon]

Hey Tech I have been listening you talk about how more cores matter for a while now, well I went from a ryzen 5 3600 to an intel i9 10850k and it is incredible to say the least! My games are buttery smooth. Thanks for the advice Tech

[@texedomel01]

I belong to the build-and-forget camp. So go big or go home for me.

[@Empress8828]

I'm with you, I'll spend like $1500 upgrading shit then I wanna forget. Unless I need to clean the inside.

[@JRCxyz]

@@Empress8828 What do you have and what do you want to get?

[@stickboy8219]

I’ve just spent £4000 on a set up lol go big or go home

[@thiefrules]

@@stickboy8219 how much of that was the graphics card xD

[@stickboy8219]

@@thiefrules msrp mate

[@Piketom1]

You cannot totally future proof with any particular piece of hardware in a PC but there are things you can do to make your quality of life better as the computer ages. Monitors for example tend to age very well so if you get a nice, 4K 144HZ monitor now, it might be hard to run in 2021 but it will pair quite nicely with better hardware in 5 years. A 1TB NVME SSD purchased now doesn't make a ton of sense for most games but it will in another year or so when we are well into the new console generation. Some parts of your PC can be easily recycled when you upgrade your system in 3 - 5 years. Those are the parts to spend as much as you possible can afford now to reduce e-waste and save some money later.

[@kaseyboles30]

Bigno. Go long term on parts that are chanhing the slowest Shorter on items that go obsolete faster. A good case,psu,monitor can forward a lot farther than a cup or gpu. For a long time ram was a good thing for long term, however with ddr5 coming as soon as q3-q4 2022 it makes sense to hold back if you can till mid 2023 on going for top ram.

[@yesthisisvic]

All I have to say is, I am SO glad to have been watching Tech and Rogue since last fall when I was deciding what I was going to put into my new build. Between their deal recommendations during the Oct.-Nov. sales and analysis concerning the fiasco that was the 3080 launch I became very motivated to find the best deals BEFORE Black Friday rather than wait on all the new gens to launch (we all saw how that went!) and not only ended-up with a great deal on a CPU/MB combo, but actually ended-up with a GPU that returned twice what I paid for it on the resale, thus lowering the cost of my 3070 to $100 UNDER launch price. Now, I have a i9-10850K on an Aorus Master z490 w/ 64GB 3600 RAM and an Aorus Master 3070 that would have cost at least another $600-700 to build had I started from scratch today.

[@Kraven83]

Looks like you owe them a beer 😁

[@anotherdrifter]

I think the jump for the next oncoming generating and lower demand will justify waiting a year.

[@anotherdrifter]

@Indi Anon yeah, you're not wrong.

[@ifrit35]

I don't know dude. I was waiting the 30 series to upgrade my 1060 because I wanted a good 300 euros graphics card and look where we are now. This price segment is literally extinct since November of last year.

[@kalupses8514]

@@ifrit35 thats because cryptocurrency mining blew up prices. It will die down to normal with eth 2.0 PoS or when crypto crashes further, whatever comes first.

[@curtismariani6303]

Great topic. Just built my pc, I thought I was a build and forget person so went all out (approx. £4.5k for everything). However I really enjoyed the process and have already tinkered. I then found an excuse to build my wife a pc. Now I’m trying to convince friends to build so I can help, but in all honesty now is not the right time to build as parts are overly expensive.

[@marcuslagergren5632]

I build PCs quite often. I am one of those who love to build, upgrade and tinker. So i build for my family, my friends and my friends friends. So for my self i change parts at every new generation. Sometimes i sidegrade just for fun. As you said, its a hobby and i love it.

[@Roman00744]

I have an i9900k and a 3070 and I agree 100%, in 3 years I expect it to be like a 6 core with a 2060 today (starting to be tight) so I expect to upgrade in 3-5 years.

[@alecbjork9368]

At the very end of the vid when he just leaned over and said “this really just isn’t a good time to build a computer is it?” Me and my pile of parts with no graphics card in sight agree.

[@cyberbug9699]

Upgrading every 3 years seems like a sweet spot for value.

[@solemnsilence3650]

Future proof on the cpu go easy on the graphics card imo

[@fatherelijahcal9620]

You can go easy on both by buying an APU which combines both at a low cost.

[@fatherelijahcal9620]

@@ploperdung It depends what you want to do with it. The Ryzen 7 4700 APUs have 8 cores and 16 threads. AMD's integrated graphics are also a lot better than Intels. If you don't mind lowering the bar to 1080p or even 720p then you can probably play every game currently on the market with one of those. Of course 4k is out of the question, but that isn't necessary in order to have a good time.

[@fatherelijahcal9620]

@@ploperdung anything above 30fps is doable. Console gamers have been there for decades. lol But yeah more is better of course, but if you don't want to spend a lot there's cheap options which you can work with.

[@agontprevarator5214]

@@ploperdung Jesus christ mate, he is clearly talking about the most casual type of "gamers" out there who don't even know what fps is and don't even care what they play that 1 hour per month as long as it's not mineswepper, he wasn't offering it to you

[@changedytaccount5539]

@@agontprevarator5214 at that point why even build a desktop pc, just buy a shitty laptop

[@JabbaTheAmerican]

I accidentally built the decent 2 year rig at 4:50 (Ryzen 3600, Strix B450, 1660 Super) a year ago before finding this channel. With the market as it is now, it looks like that'll have to do for the foreseeable future.

[@muscularharp2397]

I'm glad I listened to your advice last year. I bought a R9 3900x for $430. That was a great deal. Best tech channel on KZbin. I also don't regret buying my RTX 2080ti. This market is brutal.

[@technologu]

just watching Tech makes me want to upgrade what I don't even need to upgrade

[@brendang3546]

Microcenter currently has the 10850k for $350. The 10700k is also going for $280 at the moment (I would still buy the 10850k, not the 10700k)

[@goaliedavid30]

I was wondering if anyone was going to mention this. those are steals! you can get a 6 core ryzen for $300. or spend an extra $50 and get 10 intel cores.. or heck, save $20 and get 2 more cores on intel... crazy times

[@brendang3546]

@@goaliedavid30 Agreed. You can also get a 6 core i5 10400 for $150, another pretty great deal

[@WesIncredible]

I decided to go big for my first ever build. 5900X, Strix x570-e, GS. Neo 32gb 3600, WD. Black 1Tb m.2, WD. Black 4TB HHD, Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT, RM850x, Looking at the LG34GL750-B for the monitor. So many shortages for things in Canada... but looking forward to building it and leaving it for a number of years!

[@KyleHatesBees]

Guilty as charged. Built my first computer about 2 years ago? And since then I've built a little over 2 dozen for family and friends and work acquaintances that I don't really even like that much. It scratches that itch.

[@schubidubap]

It's the perfect storm: - shortages - demand spikes - price crazyness - a lot of common upgrade paths evaporate (f.e. importance of high core count CPUs). I mean 4 years ago, you could buy an old office PC and stick a 960 in it and you had a great machine! - a new console generation wich is relatively strong compared to curent Gaming-PCs (in contrast to the PS4 launch). This will accelerate the pace of rising hardware demand over the next 1-2 years until the average gaming PC has surpassed the consoles again.

[@changedytaccount5539]

Wait so would the 5950x be worth the premium over the 5900x if I’m planning on building a 6 year system?

[@stickboy8219]

The 5900X will be perfect unless you like to edit or whatever but if you only game get the 5900X

[@mrsumoyoshi]

The timing couldn't be worse. I finally am in a situation where I have the money to buy a full system upgrade and everything is there hard to find or stupid prices. I am someone who likes to buy big and have it last as long as possible with little upgrades throughout 5 or 6 years.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62]

there's plenty of prebuilds that are reasonably priced, and laptops as well granted there will be some compromises but your wallet won't be dying like when buying separate components.

[@danielp121]

6:10-6:18 accurate af. Either prices are inflated or sold out 😢☹️ very hard to recommend

[@karmicjustice4046]

this dude is always on point. with much respect Sir

[@ZakkFazio]

Got a 3060ti and ryzen 7 3700x in December. Will treat me fine for a couple years so I can upgrade then

[@chrisjohnson261]

When do you think i will have to upgrade? I have red devil 6800xt red 3900xt 32gb 3200mhz ram Tomahawk max b450 And several ssds

[@Alleyne070707]

I try to build my computer to get the most out of my monitor. Knowing that I game about a year or so behind and knowing that if I can run current games well (above my monitor's specs) as the games get better they run close to or under max monitor specs. Sad part is if I buy a new high end monitor I'm screwed!!

[@veckgames]

Some components are worth future proofing and others aren't. A really solid CPU can typically last 4-5 years before it becomes a bottleneck to any GPU. Same goes for all associated components such as the motherboard, cpu cooler and RAM. A PSU doesn't need to be upgraded unless your power demands start exceeding its capacity or it becomes faulty. Storage can pretty much last until it breaks. Basically, the GPU is worth upgrading every 2-3 years and everything else isn't.

[@manuelmunguia616]

you can go for a high end gpu and upgrade every 5 years or so, my gtx 1060 6gb lasted almost 5 yearsbut it is not really good in next gen titles such as the mdium or cyberpunk 2077

[@veckgames]

@@manuelmunguia616 my gtx 970 lasted 6 but that's a special case brought about by an underwhelming console generation imo

[@treatforme]

You both are great on what you’re doing

[@dangeloenglish4284]

The only thing I believe in upgrading is storage. Like you should build a complete system. That you can afford. And sit on it. Don’t keep tinkering and adding if you’re just a gamer. If you spend $2500 on a pc the resale next gen is like $1800+ if you keep it in good shape. Now if you build a new $2500 system, ur already $1800 of the way there. Now it looks less expensive.

[@linuxtweeker]

0:50 EXACTLY!

[@shootguard]

Recently you can replace often and profit lmao

[@Aldsomegaming]

I'm currently rocking a 3060ti with Ryzen 7 5700X and I expect it to be running fairly until 2025. Thing about building a very high end for future proofing is that what if my hardware failed before it reached my expected timeframe usage. Then it'll be a bummer. Plus the warranties (in my country warranty lasta for 1 year or 2 only)

[@DraughanTV]

Fun you talk about this. I upgraded from 16 to 32 gigs alongside getting a 6800 non XT. But my 1700 doesn't exploit it even on 21/9 1440P. So I hesitated about getting a 3700X, changing platform to a 10850K (for about 100€ more) or get a 5900X (for 300€ more). I actually got a 3700X which will be decent enough for 3 years and get a Zen 5 with DDR5 that should exploit NVME in games + 12 cores for a massive upgrade.

[@Cibohos]

So I just built a PC with a 3600x and a 3070 and 16gb RAM for a 1440p 144hz gaming, (not expecting that fps in AAA titles obviously but for competitive games), how soon will I need an upgrade I wonder, and which part?

[@ModernGeekReview]

Easy past 3 years both CPU and GPU! And can go up 5 years ! Unless you want to everything to the max . Then yearly to need to buy new! Average is 20% increase in new model every year. By the time 5 years later upgrade will be a big leap!

[@MANiACmiget925]

I went with the go big budget and not touch it for 3-5 years. Decided on the i9 10850k, RTX 3080 (when I can find one...), and 32 GB of ram. Im thinking that around 4 years ill start to feel like ugh...I don't want to make the compromises anymore to play games at my target framerate and end up doing a whole new build around then.

[@fatherelijahcal9620]

You don't need the latest and greatest hardware to enjoy gaming. You might not be able to play 4k games in 5 years on existing hardware, but do you need to? Lower the bar to 1080p, or hell even 720p if you have to. You can stretch out whatever you happen to have for 7 or perhaps even 10 years if you're willing to lower the settings on your games below the maximum.

[@keychain3554]

As soon as I can’t do 1440p, I’m upgrading my parts lol

[@evenbetterthantherealthing92]

There are some fair priced chips on available in 10th gen Intel. 10600K for $189, 10700 for $249, 10700K for $279 and I just picked up a 10850K for $349. Can't find anything AMD in stock except for 5600X and scalpers asking $550-600 for the 5800X.

[@f-22raptor25]

kinda stuck between 5600x or 10600k after motherboard their pieces difference is like 80-90. I kinda feel like its worth it to pay 90 more for the 5600x as the single-core and multi-core is about 20% faster

[@valentinvas6454]

I'm usually the Future proofing kinda guy. It is much more satisfying to me to upgrade something after 4-5 years rather than 1-2 or even 3. For example I could have upgraded from my old GTX 660 to a 970 and it would have been a nice upgrade but upgrading to a GTX 1080 was a whole another experience.

[@enzoboggio4788]

I bought a i9 9900k for a little over 300 at microcenter... Good deal ?

[@ModernGeekReview]

Yes a very good deal. Intel is trying to catch up so they lower the price! You got the benefit of CPU WAR 2021!

[@benjihutch24]

I'm a tinkerer BUT I mostly buy used parts so it doesn't get to expensive. I tend not to plan what I'm going to buy I just wait until I see something better than what I have at a great price and I buy! Then spend a month or so getting top dollar for my previous parts. My computer has expanded into a pretty nice machine without investing a huge amount of money this way.

[@delta6deltaDG]

I got pissed 0ff and bought an Origin Genesis; 5900X, 6800xt, 1000 watt power supply, 64 gigs of 3200 ram, Roc Crosshair VIII hero, 2 980 Samsung pro m-2 and 360 AIO. How long will this last?

[@ModernGeekReview]

From today date around 5-6 years easy! You might run out of hard drive space! Into those years if you planning download games!

[@nightfire285]

Back in late 2013 I went big. Intel 5820k and 16gb ddr4. And it literally lasted me till now. However I upgraded because I like to tinker.

[@TopHatCat1989]

I love tinkering with my computer, but only to a degree. I'm willing to get into the guts of it and repair/upgrade parts of it. I'll use parts until it's destroyed before putting it into recycling, until then I'll reuse parts in new builds as much as possible.

[@durtyred86]

Love adding new stuff like coolers and different fans here and there but as far as cpu, gpu and mobo, I try to skip at least 2 generations. Especially with the mobo. I still have my CH7.. and honestly don't plan on upgrading until 600 series mobos drop "maybe". Skipping 30 series gpu and 50 series cpu also. 3900xt 2080ti @1440p I'm fine until 2022 or better.

[@shanic1411]

For 1440p I think you're set for even longer!

[@wizzgamer]

New motherboard equals new PC anyway.

[@yogatriathlete]

I'm still using an i7 3770K with a GTX 1070. I just bought a 1440p 170Hz monitor. Playing Borderlands 3, I get about 90 to 100 FPS using Low settings. I would love to use High or Ultra settings and get 144+ FPS. Do I need to build a whole new computer or is there an upgrade(s) that will get me there?

[@ModernGeekReview]

All depend on you budget. Upgrade path is flexible! Or new build! What is your plans of the use of a new computer upgrade? It hard to recommend if people don't know what expect the use out of the new computer for ?

[@gameboyttv]

I am hoping my 10850k will get me by for the next 4 years of gaming. Just built a new pc last week, upgraded from a 6700k.

[@thegallantracer5217]

Microcenter has the 10 core i9 10850 for 350 in store purchase only right now. I'm about to dive on that one

[@maxroyden3121]

I like to tinker for the intent of using big future tech. So I am currently building a pc with big future upgrades in mind.

[@darrenreid4367]

sorry but you guys are on another planet... real gamers like me do our best to keep up but none of us get access to buy the latest graphics card, you get even the lowest graphics card handed to a plate while we fight just for a 30 series, try being in the shoes of a real gamer...

[@Shockwave231]

You do not speak for everyone at all. Alot of us hold on to our gpus and processors for 3+ years. Not everyone is obsessed with "keeping up"

[@darrenreid4367]

@@Shockwave231 i dont pretend to speak for everyone and i dont think i said that, what i did say is it s ok telling us about the latest and greatest but its another thing actually having the option of buying it...open your eyes

[@Shockwave231]

@@darrenreid4367 not having the option isnt a problem for those who had no intention of upgrading in the first place. Everyone isnt in the same boat here

[@darrenreid4367]

@@Shockwave231 Totally agree...we all choose what we want

[@MrRoxBrown]

Very true. I had to build this year because my pc has reach its life in playability. (I had a amd vishra on ddr3 ram 😔) i got mostly everything at decent prices before everything went insane. But the gpu just alluded me. Now I'm stuck looking at these inflated price and wondering when did everyone lose their natural minds.

[@briank3754]

My 1080ti has served me well. Bought the G2 and no hope for a 3080 in the foreseeable future. I love to build, but no regrets with the 1080ti. In fact I used to tinker a lot more, but got the 8600k and 1080ti combo at the end of 2016 and I just haven’t had the need to upgrade until now. Even at that, my 1080ti is still holding its own and can push some pretty pixels at full resolution on G2. Just can’t handle MSFS as well as I would like.

[@skjor1989]

can you make a video of cpu and gpu combination that fits with each other well in terms of price and performance and will bottleneck each other?

[@nyphon]

5950x sounds crazy for pure gaming.. I mean, we JUST had 6c12t become the "standard" after what? 5 years of 4c8t being the standard?

[@jihadjoe4957]

Well, that was because AMD lagged behind thus Intel held the CPU market back. It was a very special case, that will not apply going forward.

[@nyphon]

@@jihadjoe4957 Sure, lets say that AMD kicked the core count race in the butt, doesn't mean a 5950x is what to expect.

[@davewills6121]

There is no middle ground at the moment, well not GPU wise, so i'm going biggish, RTX 3090...for the 24 GB VRAM, 5900X, 64GB VRAM, 2TB SSD, HP Reverb G2, Ryzen 5900x when i can get one. The future for particular upgrades is so uncertain, i'm not going through this again, any time soon.

[@jorisv207]

Another 3090 clown

[@davewills6121]

It pains me to feel a need to buy a 3090, but whats even worse is you have to grab whats available, there's really no choice involved. I wan't both consoles as well, but thats where i draw the line. SLI?, nah

[@davewills6121]

Tell me about it.

[@1976axerhand]

question for you smart people. i have a dell inspiron 5675 i had a friend replace the 8gb ram for new crucial ballistic 16gb ram and a m2 ssd drive, he cloned the data to the ssd drive, my problem is now that i cant access anything . i cant even unistall or download anything(like re down loading wow) i keep getting this message window's cannot access the specified device,path or file. you may not have the permission to access the item. can i fix this or should i just wipe the ssd drive and start over any help would be great

[@AzraelIgnis]

I build what I can afford. This year I bought the 5950x with a 3080. A 3090 sounds better on paper, however, It's not worth the price difference per performance and eventually I'll do a midway upgrade on the gpu anyway. That additional 1000$ I would have spent I built a 2nd computer instead with a 5600x and a 3070. Since my gf doesn't play many games it works perfectly for sensible game titles. I had a budget, I stuck to that budget and we're all in it together waiting for gpus and cpus to drop in a pooey market.

[@AzraelIgnis]

Yeah I spent a lot of money this year but Yolo.

[@wyntyr_7096]

Hmmmm...with the competition heating up for cpu and gpu products... possibly similar to 1990s...would it be preferable to stay in the upper mid range of pc parts (5800x & rx 6800) and be on a 2 year upgrade timeframe...vs...top end pc parts now and upgrade in 4 years... because of high performance leaps happening very quickly?

[@runonosu6964]

i'm thinking about upgrading this year, i wish gpus were in stock

[@lachlanh7911]

Might be worth looking at something that will get you by for now just because of the inflated prices.

[@PhyNxFyre]

I bought my 3600x for $200, sold it for $180, bought my 5700xt for $360, sold it for $320. By upgrading and selling parts before they devalue too much I essentially spent $60 to "rent" them for a year and now have the cash to upgrade to a 5600x and 3080

[@chrisxcrozz5186]

I like this kind of question and explanation, Im the kind of person that also that wants to forget about whats inside my pc and just play games and not worry about my performance. I started with an Athlon 200GE build for my first computer then gradually upgraded the Ram, added a RX 580 then upgraded the cpu to a ryzen 5 2600. Im basically like a textbook person who can upgrade the pc atleast 1 part at a time. im planning to keep the CPU for atleast 2-3 more years then upgrade those parts and later in the year (if scalpers are still a thing that is) gonna upgrade that GPU to a RTX 3050 ti. i like my build keeping it atleast on the midrange specs in terms of gaming.

[@forog1]

Im in the same boat as the guy in question. I want to build and forget for the main system except GPU. So i got the 5950x that i want to stretch to or pass 5+ years maybe 10 max depending on what's out and how much faster the new tech are for the 10 year marker but 5 years I'm ignoring all tech tell then GPU not included in this plan lol.

[@sixteentons1807]

I can get a I910850 for 389 E(dollars). Good deal? or wait for the Ryzen 5000cpus to go down in pricing.

[@triniox3186]

Have fun now or in x months?

[@jaekjaek7367]

I mostly game with a youtube + twitch + discord + 20chrome tabs. Was wondering if 5950x is still overkill. I can't get a hold of 5900x but I can get a 5950x from someone. It's an expensive cpu but it's the only one I can find :( i tend to build and forget. I currently have a 1080ti + 6700k from 5 years ago. I'm really due for an upgrade. I have a 3080 so I just need a good cpu. Any inputs from someone?

[@thiefrules]

better to have too much power than too little

[@jaekjaek7367]

@@thiefrules already bought a 5900x lol.

[@bluemojos]

Keep the PC for three to four years with a mid-life graphics card upgrade. 👍

[@VegaTech]

I tend to only tinker with my own machine every 3 to 4 years. That being CPU/mobo swap. But I'll take every chance I get to help someone build a machine. Or build it for them.

[@guanyu210379]

What?! 5 years? Hey! I am still stuck with my E3-1231V3+16GB DDR3 RAM rig, which I built in 2013-2014 ^o^

[@IrelandVonVicious]

First question is what do you do with the used parts. Second is how many operational computers do you want/need in your house. Both can be moved down in rank if you use your computer for business purposes. Those determines more than anything else. I use three x86 computers at any given time and have three PI 400's. Plus NAS and a PI 4 (pi hole). Multiple WiFi for security/vpn. So I upgrade or buy a new computer and bump down the old parts/computers until the worst one for the garage is replaced. I also hate dealing with selling used parts. Might sound like a lot but five kids means the needs are large. I upgrade when the price is right. No need to tinker in my main computer. Value is important to me. Every house has different needs. College kids have different needs than working father's as an example.

[@MissCloud9]

Mid-range upgrade every 5 years. Am happy I went with 32 gb ram (though 16 might have been sufficient if ram wasn't on sale when I did that).

[@AA-db9cb]

The one thing upgrading often gets you is an efficient chip. That high end 12 core ship today will suck up way more power than the mid level 12 core chip in 3 years.

[@KantusKid]

I like upgrading and tinkering my computer every couple of years. I don't care if I have the latest or greatest, I just like upgrading it ad hoc.

[@xwing8675]

"I've got a $2500 budget, guess I'm going to blow it all on a graphics card...'

[@marianmarkovic5881]

and spend remaining 100USD on RGB since it will make it even faster,...

[@dend1]

Bought i9 10900k + 3080 pre built with the works from Alienware during black friday for $2500 before taxes. Prices are def inflated now though..

[@changedytaccount5539]

@@dend1 ...8gb ram, 256mb ssd, 1tb hdd, 600w psu, $100 mb... 😳

[@dend1]

@@changedytaccount5539came with 32 gb ram FURY DDR4 XMP at 3400MHz, 2tb ssd, 2tb hdd, 1000w psu and liquid cooling

[@changedytaccount5539]

@@dend1 pre good 😌

[@theweekndstanaccount7006]

Yes future proof though I got a 1660 super r53600 16gb 3000 MHz ram and gigabyte b450m

[@od5779]

Hey Tech and everyone, I need some advice. I can get an i9 10900 over a 5600x for an extra €50-55, should I or would 10 cores be a waste? Edit: I only game, but Im trying not to upgrade CPU wise for a while.

[@ManyFARTS]

Definitely get the 10900 unless you already have a motherboard that can support a 5600x if you're looking to not upgrade for a while. Although, even better would be if you can get a 10850K for the same price (or max €20 more). Better performance than the 10900 non-K. Just make sure to get an adequate cooler for the thing because they run hot haha.

[@KanHazKat]

I recently bought an i9-9900k on sale for $300 with everything else new except my gpu. I'm still deciding between a 3070 and a 3080 but in the mean time this new i9 has given new life to my 1070ti. I'm holding off for now because of the mining boom. I figure if it crashes around Chinese New Year then I might have a better chance of getting one of those gpus.

[@ArcadeJackpotMaster]

In probably going to want till 2022 to build my next computer and hope prices somewhat lower by that time I have a 8700k and 1660ti and that’s great for gta 5 and the other games I play.

[@BeastlyBen007]

I buy my cpu for 3-4 year cycles and sell for about 50% of its value usually and use it to upgrade to the next bang for buck upgrade but it's gotta be at least 30% higher on performance. I feel upgrading specific parts is a very good thing to do, I feel it saves more then to keep your components until they are so outdated the resale is not worth your time and can't recycle the funds from said part to replace it with the new part. Always try to time the market to resell imo.

[@ryogaming4771]

personally i upgrade often the videocard only because it keep it's value usually and i buy the new model (only model witch not TI/super refreshes), use the money i got and buy the new one. If you wait too long the value plumbet

[@saricubra2867]

Future proof. 7 years with an old i7-4700MQ (monster processor) laptop with 16GB (i will add an SSD soon) for music production. The price was around 1000 or 1300 dollars back in 2013. I did an undervolt on the i7-4700MQ and it is a beast beating the i7-2600K, 1932 in one thread and 6090 overall passmark score. Laptops nowadays have very bad price/perfomance rations, at the same price point, you get a similar processor (i5) but better GPU (the only thing that aged very badly from my laptop but it wasn't that good either back then, GTX840M is a low middle end).

[@ifrit35]

I'm the kind of guy who enjoy tinkering and building computer. Never had a computer that was worth more than 1200 euros and that's not about change. I won't go upmarket simply because 2500 euros is the kind of money I would invest in my motorcycles, not computers. I built my main rig in December, 10400f, 16gb of ram, a used gtx 1080 and a 1TB nvme ssd. That's a solid 800 euros build in my opinion. Runs half life alyx like a charm.

[@scgtimk1]

I'm that kind of person, building and tinkering with Computers is like therapy. its a hobby. Doing thing i like reduces my blood pressure.

[@Na0uta]

I prefer future proofing a bit more. I want a solid system for no less then 3 years. And only upgrading around year 4 or 5. Depending on the needs of the time. So far it worked out well. Had a pair of gtx 970s that worked in sli for most every game I was playing till cyberpunk. And a 1700x up at 4ghz. 16gb of ram to round it out at 3200mhz. All has been well for a good 4 years with some minor storage increases over time.

[@noregrets8751]

im trying to do the same, dont wanna upgrade ANYTHING but my gpu for the next 4 - 6 years, I got a 5950x, 3090, x570 xtreme, 1600wat psu with 6tb of gen 4 nvme, well see how long this lasts lol, only thing im considering is a custom loop in couple years..... if im not too lazy for the maintenance :P

[@jandevocht]

For those builders with gtx 970's, they build futureproof. But they didn't know they made that futureproof decision back then!! You can't know What futureproof is. For example a 2700x sounded futureproof, but it's already old news since 6c 3600's...

[@dave7061]

I just built my 3080, 10900k and 32 gb pc for a future proof with the goal of getting 4 - 5 years. You guys think my pc has the legs to pull it off?

[@stickboy8219]

Yes easy

[@Trancemaster9000]

Microcenter has the Intel i9 10850k (10 core, 20 threads) for $350. I think that is a steal! Assuming you live near a store.

[@masterlee1988]

My Microcenter is so far away sadly.

[@Trancemaster9000]

@@masterlee1988 That's unfortunate, it's such a good ideal right now

[@pyrophobia133]

I would say Ryzen 7/i7 is the bare minimum for a long term investment, 9 is the recommended

[@ElladanKenet]

Agreed. 6 cores is fine for now. 8 is better. In three years, 6 will be bad, 8 fine, and 10 better. Ideally, if you got the money and wanna keep for 5+ years, go 10 or 12 core.

[@davidgunther8428]

Motherboard selection and timing is the biggest future- proof vs upgrades question. If you want a 4- year system, new versions of things like USB and PCIe or NVMe can happen. This can make getting a platform late in its life cycle a roadblock to upgrading later on. Get the newest motherboard with the features you want. AM4 has been very long lived, with issues for AMD from supporting it through 3 CPU architectures. AM5 might not be committed to as long given forward compatability difficulties.

[@mckayver1306]

Looks like i have to buy a 5800x. I really only need it for 2 years because this my upgrade cycle.

[@RickSanchez167]

If you guys like tinkering and building computers....start gpu mining. You will tinker alot, constantly add parts and expand, and you will larn a lot about electrical and thermals. Its a great hobby

[@johnperez5775]

I upgrade every 3 years. Never gone wrong with 70 series of Nvidia and midrange cpu( like Ryzen 5600x as i have at the Moment). It is just fun to upgrade my pc.

[@toxic-kojou652]

My last build was a Rx 6900xt Ryzen 7 5800x Corsair vengeance 32 gb ram I might upgrade in 3 to 4 years. I do like to buy top notch but the Ryzen 9 5900x was really hard to find and 900 dollars or even 1,100 for a CPU doesn’t make any sense.

[@sapphyrus]

To futureproof best, need to get the latest tech even if it's a mid-grade so you can later on do a GPU upgrade, maybe add more RAM and SSD space and it should last 5 years. I did that on my last PC and it went just great up to 5 years with a GPU upgrade in third year. Just pay attention to price/performance rather than getting the absolute best and it'll do just fine with optimized setting tweaks.

[@schubidubap]

I like tech, but I like a working system more. I'm not really the type who tinkers constantly. So I always go "one shelf up" from what's considered the best value for current games. Such a system usually lasts me 5 years with a GPU-Upgrade somewhere in between, despite me being kind of a snob for when it comes to running games with high details and fps. This route also ensures that I only upgrade once there is a need for it. For example; I built a completely new system in the beginning of 2020: Asus X570-E; 3900X, 32GB 3600 CL18, 1TB NVME, 2080 Super.

[@thetroll3884]

For me I usually go for the middle; not the highest not the lowest, something like the 3700x with RTX 3070 will do pretty well for me. I will usually upgrade when my PC start getting in my way of getting the job done, around 3 to 4 years seems a reasonable time. That way I don't spend too much while still get good performance, and that money I didn't spend on a higher graphics card or a CPU will be used when I upgrade my PC which will bring more value since(usually) the same price you paid for a CPU or graphics card will buy you considerably better one after 3 to 4 years. For example: you buy a 3700x + 2070 super = 330$ + 500$ = 830$ or you buy a 3950x + 2080 ti = 750$ + 1100$ = 1850$ difference = 1020$ After Just one generation of CPUs and graphics card you can get almost the same performance(if they were in stock) for : 5950x + 3070 = 800$ + 500$ = 1300$ were you were paying much more for that level of performance and that happens Just in one generation (of course if you are just gaming you can get 5800x which is much cheaper), you can use your PC for 3 or 4 years then you can upgrade for a much better performance with that money you didn't spend on the top high end parts + you can get more money by selling you old PC if it still worth something.