Is DLSS 4 actually BULLS**T?? --- THE RTX 5090 BLIND TEST

[@vextakes]

Bruh, this vid was supposed to be up 6 hrs ago, but I fell asleep with the upload button in my hand smh. (All-nighters suck)

[@Hardwareunboxed]

They don't make them like they used to, I'm talking about tech reviewers of course :P haha nice work on the video mate, I enjoyed it!

[@Tristanimator_]

Vex needs to discover planned uploads lol

[@railgun517]

that is way too relatable

[@_Turtle_420]

​@Tristanimator_ so did you even bother reading the words on screen because typically you still need to hit the upload button

[@ilbro7874]

Just need some occasional meth

[@Tech-is1xy]

Plays with 4x frame gen: "Way smoother" Finds out he's playing with 4x Frame gen: "That felt like ass"

[@danaxa3550]

Agreed. Why not ask him which settings did he prefer before* it was revealed which settings correspond to which? It's obvious the answer only after revealing the truth will not be objective because of the preconceptions of frame gen

[@216.kai-]

yea that shit blew me 😭

[@dude4379]

Yeah, he really wasn't the best candidate for a blind test. He came into this test with a strong bias against frame gen and had no intention of giving it a fair assessment.

[@M4x505.]

Yeah idk about 4x but regular FG is nice imo

[@MightyMeaty1991]

I think that clearly signifies that casuals wont even be able to tell the difference in realtime. I hate where this generation is going and im 100% sure the upcoming GPUs moving forward would rely on AI upgrade more so actual hardware and performance upgrade. It's sad that the 4090 is the actual best graphics card Nvidia have ever released

[@AbelMusa]

Those awkward silences at Jensen's speech were deafening.

[@ErifN0gard]

its crazy how out of touch you can get when you're making billions

[@hobosnake1]

It is kind of bleak how things are, but lets pray intel and amd can eventually put the pressure again.

[@Blu9ty]

It was sarcasm tbh. Right after he literally talked about the 5070 is a 4090 marketing

[@JohnJohn-m7o]

That definitely wasn't sarcasm. He was genuinely attempting to justify the cost of these cards by comparing them to this mythical "command center". Very similar to how luxury car brands justify absurd maintenance price gouging. "A $950 car battery isn't very expensive when you consider the fact the car itself cost $130k"

[@CosmicDeejay]

Is that clip actually real? I have never been more tempted to short NVDA lol

[@chubbs6504]

Let the scalpers get stuck with this card

[@justhomas83]

Yes sir

[@Workaholic42]

Scalping will work just fine again, considering the sparse supply…

[@sdsbc-z2l]

Stuck? They are selling for $4,500, I got a few pre-orders and will net about $12,000 profit for an hour of work. I am an adult - I sell these to losers and rich kids, no one successful plays video games (not even Elon Musk as we just found out, lol!)

[@lordestevitan5392]

@@sdsbc-z2l Elon Musk is a loser no matter what

[@TheRealDJ-NEO]

@@sdsbc-z2li can respect the hustle bro. As a buyer it sucks but hey, i get you, we have to think about ourselves first

[@ImShelly.]

Before knowing: "looks pretty good and feels good. No framegen, no artifacts" After knowing: "that felt like complete ass and looked bad". This guy clearly has a strong bias against frame gen. I'm not saying it's perfect, but he was not a good test subject

[@alef3356]

Yeah. In scientific rigor, we couldn't say FG is that perceptible since this dude missed most of the time. If it was really noticeable, he would get it right at least 8 of 10 times.

[@MyouKyuubi]

true... he did do that, and it was really weird that he did that too, lmao... After that he started s****ing on everything because he was scared of accidentally endorsing framegen, lol.

[@hamzarahmani7740]

That just proves the whole "fake frames" thing is bs. If a hardcore framegen hater can't tell the difference then you know the frame gen is good

[@EyesOfKTwo]

@ImShelly. I use x2 frame gen all the time I hate 3x to 4x

[@ClamChowder95]

​​@@hamzarahmani7740 I mean he definitely knew in the 4x test which isn't surprising, but he initially said it felt good. Brother, wtf .. .

[@gahmoo]

$10,000 command center? Bro... That GPU probably costs more than my entire PC. What an asshole.

[@zyos11]

You are completely out of touch, a 10k PC would be an entry level PC for most people

[@user-funnymadp]

@@zyos11 most ppl arent buying 4090 or 5090, they can even afford a 4080, my 4090+13900k cost me 6k, after switching to 5090+9800x3d, maybe 8k

[@rangerdanger572]

​@@zyos11 what are you, 60? 10k was like 5 years ago, it's 20k now.

[@imz3no964]

@@zyos11 10/10 rage bait

[@gahmoo]

@@zyos11 I'd have agreed with you, but 10k being entry level???? nah you're smokin something beyond us

[@chefkoch4589]

Its funny your buddy always changes his mind that it looks and feels like ass as soon as he knows it's using frame GEN but before he's saying SMOOTH.

[@Dumb-Comment]

Most people are like this, they don't even have a preference, that's why Nvidia marketed their shit like this

[@lol-bg4wh]

@@Dumb-Commenteverybody has been hating but in reality this is the future, maybe its not at the absolute best but its still pretty crazy and in reality its only gonna get better

[@Lunacy4]

​@@lol-bg4whi dont think people have an issue with the idea of framegen, its that inevitably these enhancements/tools for longevity end up being used as crutches by game studios who (most often because of higher ups crunching them hard) don't optimize the game code and just say FG and DLSS are required

[@stephenpatterson8056]

​@@Lunacy4The issue though is that people like to throw that "O" word around like they know what it means. Games only really run "poorly" when you're trying to run with RT or PT. Basically all raster only games or RT titles with RT disabled run fine (UE and Unity stutter issues notwithstanding). A new set of graphics features that is hard on hardware does not necessarily mean "bad optimization." It means that the only way to "optimize" is by throwing more silicon at it. Which we can't keep doing at our current level of technology. We have to come up with smarter ways to give developers more performance to be able to utilize the new features that they want to use. And frame gen is a pretty slick method of doing that. Is it perfect? No. But considering how early we are in its usage, it's pretty damn good and will only continue to improve. And as a result we're able to see rendering techniques that just 10 years ago we never thought we'd be able to see in real time

[@Lunacy4]

@@stephenpatterson8056 eh yeah it mostly is UE5 that runs bad but it sucks that game devs cant ease the growing pains transitioning to raytraced games since they just dont have the resources

[@adityasharma17103]

I don't know why everyone calls the 5090 a 2000 dollar card when 99% of the people will never get the founder's edition. It's actually a 2500 dollar card, maybe even more.

[@alancarr195]

Same with saying 5070 is 550$ card when NO STOCK at the msrp will be available. The aibs will have to charge 625-750$. Nvidia just rly messed with bunch of people's heads that don't understand how reference and aib deals work out. Basically paper launch for the cheaper msrp. The rtx 5080 aib models are 1300-2000$

[@adityasharma17103]

@alancarr195 True. Nvidia's cards never sell at msrp. Even if they go down in pricing maybe after a year, they are still way over their announced prices.

[@IgorBozoki1989]

All Founders edition 5090 went to tech youtubers for free.

[@adityasharma17103]

@@IgorBozoki1989 well of course. It's a review unit.

[@ihadlunch8575]

"Butter is not smooth when its at room temperature" ... What?

[@artem8193]

like if you heat it up above room temperature it becomes smoother but I guess he could have just said how it’s not smooth when its cold even when comparing to room temp lol

[@SterlingSanders]

@@artem8193if butter is cold, it’s not at room temperature. Butter *is* smooth at room temperature, and continues to get smoother as it increases in heat until it’s a liquid. This whole video is weird.

[@adamzez]

@@SterlingSanders How on earth is melting butter smoother than colder butter? Smooth means equally proportioned, which is how butter is when its cold, not warmer into liquid. Hes saying room temperature butter is starting to melt, meaning its lop sided and not smooth. Probably just an analogy to having so much latency, that it makes the FPS being high pointless.

[@SterlingSanders]

@@adamzez Wait, are you joking? The "smoothness," of butter is measured by how easily it spreads-on bread for instance. Room temperature (72F) degree butter spreads on bread extremely easily. The warmer it gets, the more easily it spreads. That is what the analogy means. Cold butter is hard to cut into with a bread knife, and doesn't not spread easily, so it therefore is not "smooth." If he's using the analogy it in a different way, he either misunderstands words, is incorrectly using the analogy, or simply has no idea what he talking about.

[@TheAdvancedFirearms]

@@SterlingSanders thats not the definition of smooth, it being level and even is smooth, like cold butter is. the ease of spreading warm butter is also smooth but thats talking about the action of spreading butter and not the texture.

[@geekstronomy3368]

"way smoother" "it doesnt feel that bad" "nah it feels like ass" moral of the story, you cant really tell the difference

[@javierarroyo6600]

Bro was predisposed to hate Frame Gen and said at the end "ew" to it even when he couldn't tell it was on more than once... Ok? Also, he said "it looks fine" and when you told him it had FG he corrected himself saying "oh it was terrible" brother, be honest with yourself

[@EyesOfKTwo]

I dont hate frame gen I hate x3 and x4

[@YTisProMentalillness]

Dude, he literally had to leave the room THREE times for THREE different settings. IF he was at the computer changing it and testing he would see it and know it and be able to compare far easier than trying to remember what he last experienced 5 minutes ago in 3 different sessions while only playing for 3 minutes or more.

[@backalleybuddy6793]

​@@EyesOfKTwo What is the exact problem then? Your ok with 1 out of 4 frames, but you hate 2 out of 4? He showed how 2x has minimal latency increase and doesn't look much worse than 1x So if FSR4 could generate 2x frames, that would be considered bad then? I'm not sure where this is going?

[@EyesOfKTwo]

@@backalleybuddy6793 I dont mind it if it good but the games I play do not benefit it

[@EyesOfKTwo]

@@backalleybuddy6793 ex. In the 2nd wave of recording, we tested Alan Walk, I git motion sickness from x4, I think upscaling is better then frame gen I really do

[@AlexSCSI5]

This just proves that human perception is completely unreliable.

[@ganthc]

Interesting experiment. I think that a more blind test would be for your friend to have a checklist to go down for each test and write down his guesses. You semi-coaching him to look for things was a little leading, so him having the written down metrics to look for would prevent you potentially swaying his assessments. Also, the vice versa test, where he does the settings, and you look at it and try to do the guessing.

[@durden0]

Weird to me that after this his take was DLSS upscaling good, frame gen bad, since he couldn't consistently tell it was one or off. But great video, glad you did it.

[@BJJ-e4b]

It's different when you for once try it a couple of times. Vs gaming at your main rig. I can always tell the upscaling is on/off. And the old framegen i notice input lag. But it get more smooth, so for some games this could be nice. But in general the best thing is no dlss accept DLAA native res.

[@rangersmith4652]

I really wish more reviewers would do this sort of testing. There is little doubt that when people know what they're looking at their predispositions bear out.

[@johnhughes9766]

Controller really does show the frame gen artifacts more than mouse, it’s almost like vertical tearing

[@squeakymonkey]

honestly, I notice it much less on controller

[@Fliim]

Same, I notice it far less on controller. It also feels better to use a controller over a mouse. With LFG anyway.

[@HanSolo__]

What's the controller?

[@__-fi6xg]

wrong but ok

[@squeakymonkey]

@ Which is really nice for me, as I generally prefer to play AAA single player titles with my dualsense.

[@MrZerocool170]

Out of all the reviews i watched today, LTT, HUB, GN, Jay, this was the concept I was most curious to see. What is so hilarious to me about most people I see shitting on FG are likely to not have used it before due to 40 series being only about ~25% of the market. Your friend could barely tell anything apart. Great content and keep up the good work!

[@vextakes]

Yeah ppl def hate on it before trying. I just don’t like how Nvidia markets it like it’s “performance”

[@MrZerocool170]

@@vextakes completely agree, it is an additional feature not an aspect of true performance

[@YoukoZuki]

I use Lossless Scaling on my CPU-bound or 30/60FPS-locked games and like it. It is an external software and it can already do frame-gen nicely, as long as your immersion is not so fragile that it breaks with minor stuffs like flickering stairs. AMD AFMF 2 is a driver-level frame gen and while it feels a bit heavy and annoying to run compared to Lossless Scaling, it has less problem with flickering stairs. Now imagine hardware-backed driver-level or in-game frame gen technology like Nvidia GPUs: if they are not better, I don't know what is. Before calling me a Nvidia fan, I use a AMD 7900 xt for two years already. There are nice tweaks and stuffs that AMD GPU cannot rival Nvidia like Reflex or DLSS, or somewhat comparable but are an ass to apply. I don't think I will change the GPU in near future, but when I do, I will get a Nvidia unless AMD proves itself to comparable by the time Nvidia goes to gen 6000s or 7000s.

[@__-fi6xg]

i use afmf all the time for newer games to max out my monitor and it works great, not surprised at all especially since nvidias does sometimes only give 30% fake frames while AMDs is always doubling in any game.

[@hamzakhalil-gs7oc]

Yep base 60 fps literally has input lag barely noticeable, most people won't be using FG on base 30 fps. I'm in no one's team but I've found AMD fanboys to be extremely hostile and find excuses to hate on something more then I've seen nividia fanboys

[@shikikanaz4624]

i agree with cameron on his statement of how GPUS should be be able to play all if not most games at good FPS, DLSS and framegen should be an afterthought and not necessary to actually run games

[@bernardoalbano1816]

That is not on the gpu developer, its on the game developers

[@ShaksLive]

@@bernardoalbano1816 Nvidia pushes developers to use their proprietary technology so it's a bit of both

[@ilbro7874]

Everyone needs to give up on 4k for 5 years 😅

[@MontySlython]

@@ShaksLive untrue, sure that can be the case with raytracing but raytracing features can be turned off which means that it goes right back to being the fault of developers if games dont run well without dlss, since most people with gpus that arent beasts arent running raytracing anyways.

[@eikbolha5883]

Samé reason why i choose amd after three generations of the nvidia 70 class gpus Rtx 2070super, Rtx 3070 OC, Rtx 4070 super and now rx 7900gre is was huge difference??? No but games some how run mutch more smooth on amd hardware a lot better 1% lows and i dont need to use frame gen with AMD hell i dont even usin fsr at all and i i do than only with fsr 3.1 native cuz thats looks good, only game that i was forced to use frame gen was new stalker 2 hell that game is unoptimized but other than that this gpu can do a lot more than that rtx 4070 super i have before cuz when i run into game that dont support dlss or frame gen i have problém with Rtx 4070 super Like real one, with AMD rx 7900gre i can at least play at good frame rate without need of fake frames or upscalers and i really wish only one think and that is actually that new FSR4 will be better cuz that is only that hold many people off including my self cuz dlss is great yeah i bit soft but good but fsr háve alot of unperfections but it is impressive what could amd achive with base analitic fsr 3.1 a d fact that it us no AI that is impressive but it is not perfect and worse than dlss in some aspects. And i fully agree that games should run without need of the frame gen or upscalers, look at game 29 years back they looks crispy and Sharp withou unperfections and over all good quality and what is most inportantly they looks great but since Rtx gpus bring upscaling and RT into games all game devs throw all game optimization into bin and they serving us games that are piece of shit for Last 6 years and its worse and worse each year. Idk i hope game devs will understand that frame gen is not good some Day but i dont think so.

[@CarlosElPeruacho]

I am 40, when he said "it's people who are older than us" it's me, I'm who he's talking about. He's not wrong.

[@BeegBeegYoshi.]

Congrats you’re gonna use a credit card to buy a gpu🤡

[@RobbieG17]

@@BeegBeegYoshi. and then pay it off right away. Gotta get those travel points.

[@Fayzon_XD]

@@BeegBeegYoshi. Correction, im going to finance a GPU and pay it off intrest free over the next 2 years 😂

[@CarlosElPeruacho]

@@RobbieG17 this guy gets it. 2k isn't a lot of money, not cause I am super rich, but I make a good wage, I have no kids, my wife and I were fortunate enough to buy a house we could easily afford, when you could have such a thing.

[@chrisking6695]

@@BeegBeegYoshi. I make $7k a month and my bills amount to $1600. I'm 41.

[@venataciamoon2789]

My $10,000 PC only has a 2070 super in it :(

[@GALACTIC_ECHO247]

💀

[@coffee7180]

you are lucky, you can upgrade to a 5070 and get a huge boost.

[@MyouKyuubi]

@@coffee7180 Uuh, don't tell people to buy a ray tracing card, that can't actually ray-trace at a playable level.

[@young-blk-investor1059]

​@@MyouKyuubitell that to all the people who keep buying amd 🤣🤣🤣 1000$ card getting beat by 4070 in ray tracing

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

2070 Super and a super expensive Threadripper 7995WX 😜

[@artem8193]

Man, I see every KZbinr releasing those 5090 videos, and I honestly can’t tell for whom this is intended. If only 5 percent of us actually buy the 5090, then they don’t even need those reviews; they straight up don’t care; they will just buy it regardless because they can. But for the other 95 percent of people, all we hear is “yeah, it’s too power-consuming; it’s a meh improvement over the last gen; and I hate the frame gen stuff but it's still playable with it.” So what the hell is even the point of this entire marketing campaign if everything leads to spending more on PSU’s and saying “it's still good to play with a feature we all hate”? It’s just so… counterintuitive? The whole damn thing about this launch.

[@coasteraddict10]

Power can be solved with undervolting

[@Tory-JJ]

Idk im waiting for a 5070ti.

[@veilmontTV]

It's the best of the best. Its fun to see what it can do. I usually buy the 80 class gpu and I'm passing this gen because the uplift is pathetic. Its the same node as the 4000 series. Sure the dies are larger but there isn't the same competition for 4nm and I'm sure nvidia paid less for the dies than the 4000 series. We're getting scammed this generating

[@artem8193]

@@coasteraddict10 you can only undervolt so much. What, the 6090 will ask for 700w of power and what’s undervaluing gonna do for you?

[@artem8193]

@@Tory-JJ same.

[@DanielBerthellemy]

Much appreciation for the Blind man to come out and part take in the tests!

[@Valkyrslayer]

how on earth can you say Alan Wake 2 looks terrible? What the hell

[@vadymorlov4234]

Man has some unknown biases at play. Saying AW2 looks like ass is incomprehensible to me.

[@MyouKyuubi]

'cus it looks awful, smudgey mess, lame colors, overused fog... it's terrible...

[@Valkyrslayer]

@@MyouKyuubi Sounds to me you were playing it with a bad monitor (bad contrast). Game looks amazing on an OLEDwith HDR.

[@Tomiply]

@@MyouKyuubi I played it on a 4K OLED monitor with HDR. It looked amazing. I'm guessing you played it on a 1080p TN display?

[@JesManVP]

Because the level design looks boring 😴 it's about the style 😎

[@DannyWilliamH]

When he actually stood on stage and acted as if we all just have $10,000 PCs...that's when I knew for sure that we're boned and it's never going to go back to the days of good price:performance. Ever. Dude has so much money that he forgot what the value of $2k and $10k are.

[@gsst6389]

Bro i assure there upper middle class who have the money for 10k system, and if their hobby they will spend it on it. For they make 10k back with in a season.

[@Fayzon_XD]

@@gsst6389 10k aint that much honestly. Thats a couple months work for most middle class in their 30-40's. This card is expensive but not unobtainable. DLSS 4x is pretty impressive and i need that shit for my g9 neo 57".

[@BearLurcher]

Irony: "The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous effect". Dear lord, you can't be that stupid, surely?

[@PragmaticTornado]

I'm one of them, but I'm in the minority. It's my biggest hobby alongside motorcycles, so it's what I spend insane money on. But yeah Jensen is just an asshole at this point, assuming everyone can drop 10 grand on a PC setup.

[@s4yto]

bro that 9800x3d is getting COOKED

[@YamGaming]

Do you now why?

[@Adam2422]

​@@YamGamingBecause the 5090 is blasting hot air into the CPU cooler

[@elhijueputa8423]

@@Adam2422 And he's using the basic Wraith cooler.. AIO that shit or get a Noctua or Peerless Assassin cooler

[@breezekinght]

Looking forward, frame generation will get better and harder to notice just like upscaling. Generally, they are based on similar AI tech, just wait for the algorithm to improve.

[@doodoo871]

I worry about competitive online play(fps/racing).

[@DBTHEPLUG]

@@doodoo871 I never understand people saying that. When playing single player games at max settings I'm at 60 FPS, when playing competitive game at max settings I hit my 138 FPS cap I've set (it could probably go even higher). The 5090 is obviously going to get 300+ fps in competitive games at 4K DLSS Performance. That's not even a question. I mainly care about frame gen so I could make use of path tracing in single player games.

[@TheTwoTwoForReal]

Latency aside, there's just a weird feeling with Frame Generation. Like the visuals of the generated frames but the feel of the native framerate.

[@scientisto7803]

Have you tried this version of fg?

[@randomroIIs]

i mean thats how it works, no user input affects the fake frames

[@Mars23223]

They can get rid of latency almost to where it's indistinguishable using asynchronous reprojection I think it's called but that will have to be in the next generation of gpu

[@JediCore]

that's what the latency is. You get the latency of the native frames, but the visuals of the 'fake frames'

[@jon....]

I feel like most people who agree with this probably haven’t actually used framegen. I’ve been playing high refresh rate games for years and I can’t tell a difference between frame gen and actual frames latency wise. Even with mouse movements it’s never noticeable, and I’ve played and beaten games like Sekiro no problem with it on. Most people want to pretend they can tell a difference when they really can’t (just like the guy in the video).

[@chefffs]

"I want my graphics to look better than real life" Everyone felt that.

[@LiveErrors]

I want my graphics to look nothing like real life

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

Probably won’t be hard to do these next four years

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West & GTA 6 trailer graphics look good enough. Now work on other things besides graphical fidelity.

[@TravisMCP]

As a content creator myself this is literally the video I would have made. Matter of fact I was gonna email some of the creators with this idea because something similar was done in my niche when 1080p phone screens came out and everyone thought anything less was terrible. Needless to say, when the test was done, it wasn’t what many thought. Great job!👏

[@fdrodreeguez20]

I can't tell if these dudes are in high school or in college. Great videos as always Vex.

[@havocking9224]

other dude feels like in high school without school.

[@dauntae24]

Finally, the 4090 not looking so bad 😂

[@Tfgbn-l6n]

When did the RTX 4090 actually look bad? Compared to what? Till the 5090 launch, the 4090 was by far the most powerful.

[@AxelHobo]

@@Tfgbn-l6n its price is stupid lol

[@aga1nsty0u]

@@AxelHobo if you dont follow the 4090 prices, yes its bad, but if you keep your ear close to it its pretty much not big a deal, i got my 4090 last year August for 1250 UK pounds and with warranty up untill 2027

[@keagan5379]

This is how 1080ti owners felt after the 20 series dropped. I remember people saying even back then the $700 1080ti was a waste of money lol

[@nife1360]

4090 might be the last gpu we ever buy unless 8k gaming but that is getting ridiculous

[@Voidstroyer]

His arguments in regard to latency were all over the place, meaning that the latency penalty for using FG is probably not a problem. The only issue I can see is the artifacting, which we already know can be fixed with updates (they fixed a lot of artifacting in DLSS 3).

[@dvxAznxvb]

the stuttering in alab wake can be caused by too many resources to monitor fps in msi afterburner; having too many metrics will consistently tank frame pacing so you shouldn't turn on too many on the on screen display or just turn the interval lower so it all doesn't refresh at the same time

[@Vintagesonic1]

15:07 Nah, did he just fart... 💀

[@futurefox128]

Clicked for the graphics, stayed for the Hollow Knight music

[@aohjii]

170 fps on Marvel Rivals feels better than 300 fps with frame generation based on my own testing. theres a huge input lag/delay when using frame generation , when you move the camera back and forth and try to read the text in the game its more blurry at 300+ fps with frame generation than at 170 fps with it off

[@darkpain2452]

that why they need nvidia reflex 2, but my friend running 300 fps, games its already crazy, imagine when we are able to create 2000 frames?

[@UnknownUs3r0808]

@@darkpain2452 i heard reflex 2 might not work in combination with frame gen, also the input lag feels in ways as if your mouse sensivity is very low, especially if your FPS by default is high

[@ClearAlera]

The FG in 5000 series is supposed to have much better latency than the FG in 4000 series. In 5000 series, FG only uses GPU hardware, but 4000 series involves the CPU and GPU. I've only seen one review so far where they focused on latency and the 5000 series FG had way better latency than the 4000 series.

[@Ichifails]

Do you have access to a 5090? Because if not, you can't test it with frame gen considering the 4090 literally doesn't have the hardware to run MFG and Marvel Rivels is still using the CNN DLSS model instead of transformer and Reflex1 instead of Reflex2

[@julian2238]

If you’re at 170 already you don’t even need FG though lmao. it’s an irrelevant point there

[@SparrowPOV]

Suddenly every human being now can see "artifacts"

[@rose1204]

if you are talking about when using 3-4x frame gen it’s because they are becoming very obvious lol…

[@ClamChowder95]

I mean you can definitely see them when you look for them. Funny how he seems to enjoy until he realizes its presence.

[@rose1204]

@ Well yeah higher framerate is nice until you start to notice input lag or artifacts once you see a artifact its hard to unsee them

[@ElderSnake90]

Some of us are hyper sensitive to input latency and artifacts. Can't help it unfortunately

[@DBTHEPLUG]

@@ElderSnake90 For sure man

[@Pinoisreadingabook]

this is proof that he is biased and he doesn't even understand what he hates... your friend is a normie and knows nothing about this technologies.

[@Tomiply]

Alan Wake 2 is one of the best-looking games of the last 10 years, especially on an OLED with HDR, and he thinks it looks like ass? How?

[@LiveErrors]

Vaseline maybe

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Because it's all subjective. I don't think Alan Wake 2 looks that good at all. Probably top 10, sure. But that's about it.

[@eduardomartin8510]

He's not bright. Good looks is what Alan Wake had the most of.

[@LiveErrors]

@ dude, you cant call someone stupid for having different aestetic preferences

[@drpotato830]

Last gen Nvidia abandon their lower lines card, now they abandoned their enthusiast line too ?

[@Silentheaven89]

dudes been criticizing he 50 series non stop and still got a 5090 lol. W. do you have to send it back after youre done testing?

[@vextakes]

Nope, it’s mine. I’m lucky Nvidia dgaf or something

[@Silentheaven89]

@@vextakes HELL YEAH lmao

[@doodoo871]

@@vextakesprops to Nvidia for not caring because they know it’ll sell.

[@ModulerDrone]

10:57 does this count as cyberbullying?

[@Underground.Rabbit]

pretty sure it's just bullying xD

[@Moonistic]

it doesn't imo, as it seems like it's just friendly banter to me

[@-MeTeC-]

wokist mentality hello 🤡

[@YaBoiKTwo]

Hey its 3 for 3!

[@EyesOfKTwo]

Oh snap its me!

[@META313.]

This guy has been baselessly speculating things literally ENDLESSLY over the span of multiple videos before the cards got released. DLSS4 turned out to be much better than what he speculated. MSRPs also turned out to be better than what he speculated. Basically, he was wrong about everything, and he's highly biased. And then he releases this absolutely nonsensical video with some friend that struggles to talk, barely formulates sentences, is extremely biased and completely unable to form reliable, distinct opinions, he just switches up perspectives on the go. I wasn't subscribed anyway, but I'd most definitely unsubscribe after this comically illogical video.

[@Cratoz911]

Yeah I noticed this months ago when I first found this channel. I think I. subscribed for some time. But I noticed the shallow and endless hate boner he seems to have for Nvidia. And it's not like there's a lot to criticize, but his channel feels more like ragebait clickbait etc absolutely 0 nuance

[@META313.]

​@@Cratoz911Yeah, he's just unable to objectively assess things. Criticize Nvidia as much as you want, as long as you are staying in rational standards. But anyone who sees just 'fake frames' in FG, and neglects everything else, is most definitely beyond any rational reasoning.

[@ElderSnake90]

I mean, its fake frames, they're just developing technology to make it feel like those frames are interactive. And fine, I get it, this seems to be the future for now, but we can call like it is.

[@META313.]

@@ElderSnake90 They are only fake relative to the ones created by the different method of rendering - If I draw some similarly themed paintings, and people feel like it wasn't enough for a collection, they want me to create more to complete the series, but I'm just unable to draw anything else for some reason. But then someone else comes up and draws very similar paintings, which perfectly fit the theme of my products. They would technically be fake products relative to the ones in the series of the original creator, but they would be just as real as them, and people would like them just as much as originals in a blind test. The term 'fake frames' is used to minimize the significance and capabilities of the Frame generation as a technology. It's a highly effective tool, and increases the performance to the point which wouldn't even remotely be possible with a raw power alone, at the cost of some artifacts and latency, which can EASILY be decreased by not maxing out absolutely everything, but rather finding a preset very close to the maximum fidelity which provides at least 60-70FPS as a base using upscaling. That way the latency barely increases by using FG. And FG is only gonna get better from here. It's most definitely a future. The raw performance is getting close to its plateau with current technology. Anyone who doesn't appreciate tools like FG, thinks it's a bad technology and complains about it, is just biased and clueless.

[@Dumb-Comment]

Nvidia: Oh you think im bullshiting, the majority of you gamers dont even know what the hell you're looking at

[@msshortza]

The thing that bemuses me is that no-one is mentioning (not that I have seen) that lossless scaling has been doing this for a while now. Nice video thanks!

[@paulc5389]

TVs have been doing it for even longer.

[@Epic3032]

the 5090 in Australia will cost us BEFORE tax AUD$4,445! fuck that, it's a scam. I agree though we should be able to run games straight out of the box. My RX 6800 does this. "Looking good" does come with latency sacrifice. Hence why I nickname them scamvidia.

[@nikolozkiziria419]

Running the same card bro, 16 gb vram, satisfied AF, F the scamvidia 🤢, disgusting monopoles

[@RoboBabeXD]

5090 is enthusiast card btw

[@fakkel321]

@@RoboBabeXD Call it what you want still won't buy it even tho i could afford it. Also i am an enthusiast.

[@JABelms]

@@fakkel321 Pretty much would pay $2,000 for a beast office chair and save some money for a custom loop. Would be insane to drop more than $1000 on a GPU

[@RoboBabeXD]

@fakkel321 talking about the performance demons. who would sell an organ for 5% extra performance for the sake of it.

[@TheGankhypower]

So I just realised that heat dumped out of the GPU goes straight into the CPU and cooks it at 90°C, you cant use AIR COLLER style CPU coolers.

[@Wape97]

Sooooo im waiting on AMD UDNA in 2026.

[@frankytanky5076]

Same. I can wait. I don't want to support nvidia anymore, and arc isn't far enough along anyway.

[@MafiosoDon21]

Since this is the direction GPU makers are heading, my only hope is that Lossless Scaling get better over time

[@ilbro7874]

Believe in loose scale

[@MafiosoDon21]

@@ilbro7874thanks 😅

[@YamGaming]

It will

[@ilbro7874]

@@MafiosoDon21 😂gotchu

[@HanSolo__]

Already did. 10x and 20x the FPS. You can find a "16x FPS" clip with no glitches or graphics even with such an insane FPS count.

[@zainmalik9666]

Bro is never getting a review sample from NIVIDIA again LMAOOO this is amazing went out with a bang

[@adamzez]

Huh? He said most of the time he couldnt tell if the fake frames were on, complimented their upscaling, and said hed probably have it on automatically. If he cant tell, then the average person most likely cant tell. Which is good. Fake frames or not, if it feels good and playable and looks good, its a W

[@__-fi6xg]

i think he showed perfectly well how most people dont like framegen but cant even tell if its on or not. Thats a huge plus for Nvidia in my book but ok

[@samuelnavarro8044]

Bro is a parrot, and this sorry xss review shows he and his boy don’t know what they’re talking about

[@ElderSnake90]

Look out the fake frame Bros are out in force

[@Beliserius1]

Kudos for being the only one to actually do a blind test rather than just let their own biases taint the reviews.

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Right

[@ChrisNihilus]

The fact that you have to closely look at reflections just to see if Raytracing is on, but that eats 75% of your framerate, it's just insane to me. Raytracing was a mistake.

[@EmberMage8192]

what's even worse is that some devs force this bs in their games

[@stickboy8219]

​@@EmberMage8192Indiana Jones and now the new Doom forced ray tracing smh

[@prodbyfaith]

The biggest marketing gimmick ever, perfectly engineered to create FOMO. You can achieve 90% of what ray tracing does with standard techniques if you implement them properly, but if you're a lazy ass developer it's much easier to just plop a light source somewhere, without doing anything else, and tell people RT is mandatory. The gaming industry as a whole is going to suffer thanks to RT and AI, but no one cares. Just like no one cares when they use an Electron app that uses 300% more resources than it needs. What a sad direction we're going towards in computing. Plus, this whole Nvidia thing feels just like 10 years ago when Intel were the only people capable of making CPUs, small almost useless yearly upgrades for crazy prices, and nobody can't say anything 'cause they dictate how the market goes. I hate monopolies.

[@TheKain202]

They said that about rasterizes graphics back in the early nineties, and look where we're now, lmao.

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Path Tracing actually makes me want to spend 2000 on the best gpu tho

[@AlokKumar-tk1ty]

Why does 5090 release feels more like Cyberpunk showcase than GPU tech progress

[@kn0x235]

ayo, what's that paper supply at 1:25 ??

[@patsy02]

If I had to guess, that's probably for jackin' off

[@SL4PSH0CK]

Love seeing my notification with the same day upload of Vex tackling framegen and DLSS transformer with a hands on test, and RandomGamingInHD with how DLSS4 is accessible and benefits more on previous cards. Cheers guys.

[@gamingfromjohnwayne]

Proud of u vex.u came long way and getting big on ur channel.nvidia send 2k gpus .well deserved!

[@ezoni8438]

Reminder : some people are significantly more sensitive to latency than others, i genuinely cant stand 2x frame gen without getting sick. Upon that i significantly prefer jagged aliasing over blurry/ghosty aliasing so upscaling is a no go for me too my experience represents a good portion of the gaming community, so imagine how we feel when the only thing we get this year is the OPPOSITE of what we want

[@deltagaming5005]

The 5090 WAS NOT designed for gamers. This GPU is aimed at the engineering industry, research labs and universities.

[@Hafizul12]

And for gamers AI hentai waifus. They think those nsfw gooner bots just run themselves smh.

[@pagman2356]

Gamers arent even NVIDIA's biggest market, yet they are the loudest.

[@Kryptic1046]

I wish people would quit saying this nonsense. It's a Geforce card, which is their gaming line, thus it is at least partially designed for gamers. They have multiple videos and slides on their website showing its gaming performance. No matter how many times people make this claim about the 90 series cards "not being for gamers," Nvidia themselves disagree because they actively and consistently market them towards gamers. If the card wasn't designed for gamers then they wouldn't feature gaming so heavily in their marketing materials.

[@paulc5389]

What lol. No. It's part of the gaming line. There's a separate range for those use cases.

[@lewsee5562]

I would understand if it's a Quadro lineup, but 5090 is part of the Geforce lineup, which is literally marketed for gaming.

[@iLegionaire3755]

Wow you guys are one of the only ones who did the RTX 5090 justice in gaming, 250 to 270 FPS DLSS4 with path tracing is utterly insane in Cyberpunk 2077, that alone justifies the price.

[@BallinLikeMike23]

I’m sorry but your friend doesn’t know what he’s talking about. How can you say Alan Wake looks like ass?? He is objectively wrong

[@theactualduck]

I mean, he also said that butter at room temperature ain't smooth. 😅

[@Tomiply]

One of the best-looking games this last decade.

[@BusyWeaverBeats]

I don't get people slandering Alan wake man unless u play on a console or 1080p, no way you play 4k and think it's so blurry that it's unplayable.. that game is not a cartoon. I think it's the lens effects and post processing that distorts the image sometimes and people just get turned off of it

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Seems to be more like an issue in people's heads rather than an actual issue.

[@andredaedone7732]

Only crazy people spend 10 grand on a computer. No need for gaming. The RTX5070ti would be plenty and probably an overkill. That is stupid to pay 2 grand for a GPU.

[@gsst6389]

Bro- people make 10k a month, is only 20% of one income.

[@andredaedone7732]

@gsst6389 even so, they can use that money for other things unless they need it for their business.

[@DBTHEPLUG]

How's that crazy? Didn't you know you could work on a computer, instead of sitting on your ass all day playing video games?

[@Corrupted]

Seems like a little frame gen is fine if you're at ~100 fps nat, just dont overdo it

[@durden0]

@2:12 "I don't like to use gimmicks to run a game, i just want to run it straight out of the box". I hate to tell you this, but they've been using "gimmicks" to improve performance since the days of quake. Here's some examples: Level of Detail Scaling Culling Screen-space reflections and ambient occlusion Shadow Maps Mipmapping Deferred Rendering Temporal Anti-Aliasing I could go on, but i'll stop here and see how this video turns out.

[@JinboiVA]

I don't think those are gimmicks. Those sound more like "tricks", some of them being used for optimization

[@durden0]

@JinboiVA exactly

[@nixonlm120]

“He kicked his own ass” 😂😂

[@IanDeVos]

When you're *actually* playing the game you aren't going to be staring at artifacts. Unless I'd playing a competitive shooter where every ms counts I'd enable it all. Your friend did change his mind about everything as soon he knew frame gen was on. So this is a flawed test. You should have asked what he prefered before telling what it was.

[@pctechzonept]

97º on the cpu? is that correct?

[@AstroBot-bc0213]

1:24 is that a spectrum 32 or am I tripping?

[@vextakes]

Yep vid hopefully coming soon, just been so packed rn, actually had it since December. It’s good honestly

[@AstroBot-bc0213]

@@vextakes take your time your a busy dude that actually makes it better since you’ll have more time with the product. Personally been eyeing that monitor glad to know a review is coming soon.

[@jipillow1]

I want to thank you for not just looking at pure numbers and looking at user experience

[@CurtOntheRadio]

I don't get why there's a sense of disappointment that lower price cards don't perform like the top price one. Why expect otherwise?

[@caterinavega-l2q]

The concept is there but its not a fair test for dlss 4 because you are using the 5090. The frame rates are so high and the experiance so top end that going from 120 to 200 fps isn't going to make the difference. The true test is when you get the midrange 5070 which might only get 30-50 FPS in a new game like indiana or black myth at 4k raytracing, will the dlss4 be noticeable with the midrange card where you actually need to use it?

[@TheKain202]

Bruh, Frame Gen isn't intended in a scenario where you get sub-60 native frame rate. Can you use it regardless? I guess, but even leatherman does not recommend that.

[@durden0]

@@TheKain202 I think 60fps with DLSS upscaling as your base frame rate before enabling frame gen on the 5070 is completely doable. The 4070ti can get 60+fps at 1440p with path tracing enabled. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmbLgHmbiNGEl6csi=F7k4nkMyFBbTv35h&t=1760

[@peterpan408]

You know they will suggest using it to pull up the frame rate of sub 60fps cards.. and it it will suck.

[@durden0]

@@peterpan408 sub 60 with or without dlss upscaling?

[@neiltroppmann7773]

Msrp is 2k, cheapest one is 2.4k up to over 3k....

[@lazerpie101_A]

well yeah, what would you expect from the company whose last-gen card is still going for almost 2x msrp

[@earthwormjim6962]

This is a very cool way to showcase the 5090, man! Loved the blind test and friendly bunter!

[@OhNoseNotAgainn]

Your friend might as well just roll a dice on the guesses cos he was completely off and the ones he got right probably were just random luck. Anyway this proves framegen is pretty good and imperceptible to casuals and even some veteran gamers. However on the other side of the argument is that if you're already needing 60-100fps to see good frame gen they why even bother because most people will be happy with 60+ base fps anyway, they dont need 240, 360 fps do they? So Framegen is bad when you need it, and when u dont need it it's good. I dont know how I feel, maybe it's a surplus to requirements.

[@luisgustavodossantosrodrig2005]

A win more feature

[@MichaelPlastow]

There's obviously alot to unpick with this video, but if you could do the exact same when you have a 3070/70ti, that would be interesting because the base will be lower to start with

[@kobodera8261]

What I find interresting is that when you go from the non frame gen to the frame gen you feel the difference, but when you go from one frame gen to the other it seems as if it does not make that much sense. Personally I think that framgen might work in single player games, but that it will suck a** in competitive games.

[@21preend42]

I think the problem with these tests is that you need to play the game for a longer period of time in different areas. Some areas may be easier for the frame gen to generate, while other areas my look so horrible, you will turn it off.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

The third FG frame is much cheaper than the first one in latency terms.

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Because the latency difference between frame gen 2x and 4x is around 2-7 milliseconds.

[@Intoxicated4768]

That hollow knight soundtrack in the background tho 😂

[@dolan_plz]

"I don't like to use gimmicks.. ray tracing I turn off.. I like to use rasterized" bud doesn't even know what "rasterized" means. Doesn't realize RT is the future of video games (there will only be more and more games with RT than without it and they will require RT HW accelerated GPUs to run). How reactionary do you have to be to not realize this? How backward... how many years will it take for people to accept one fucking change in their lives? Why can't they analyze situations using analytical, critical thinking with open mind... it's the same damn thing as the proliferation of 3D in the 90s. People were calling it gimmicks, ugly, it ran poor... which it did for the first few years, but they couldn't see the purpose of it, they can't fucking see things as always emergent, including social issues, not just tech. They can't see it in terms of evolution, progress, iteration, innovation... it's a continuous progression that can't be stopped. But we stagnate as a society when it comes to accepting change... poor education and poor nurture does that do people, I guess.

[@QUEAULA]

This is the best 5090 video, THANK YOU! Do you plan doing one for the 5080 and 5070?

[@LS-qs9ju]

The problem with this test is that people already prepared to search for details that you wont see in normal gameplay because you already said to them in the beginning about what test it is.

[@MXTRIX-222]

10:30 fbi officer hitting the stanky legg 💀 15:10 tf was that sound 😭🙏

[@brunocerny]

I dont like gimmicks.. (In SpongeBob voice) a few moments later: yeah id play it like this

[@hierox4120]

So far most of the reviewers have not touched on productivity benchmarks yet. To me, a 5090 doesn't make sense for gamers. It's too expensive, and the upgrades typically won't benefit them as much. As a 3D modeler, I wanna know how much it will benefit me in the long run. Less render time = more money

[@xvnbm]

I think it kind of obvious that it will be better also in that. If you need it for professional use, of course you will buy the best one.

[@BDOGreatSaiyanMan]

That latency increase is disgusting... Hard pass for me. Pure rasterization is where its at. Like the guy says - Upscaling is great, frame generation nah. Ill personally look for a second hand 4090 or maybe even venture over to a 7800XTX or maybe go a 9070XT when released depending on benchmarks.

[@MyouKyuubi]

My suggestion? Wait for the 9070 XT, buy that sucker, and 6 months later, switch to Linux, you'll be giggling all the way to the bank for the next 10 years, with the amount of value you get out of that card! xD FSR 4 is going to be insane! ;) Games will have high framerate (strong card), supernaturally smooth (Linux has almost 0 frametime stutter, graphs are flat lines), you'll have DLSS-quality upscaling tech (FSR 4), with a card that ages like fine wine (AMD W), and responds very well to undevolting if that's your thing (another AMD W), all that for 100 bucks less than the Nvidia equivalent (Third AMD W), and best of all, it's all pure rasterization, baby!

[@julian2238]

He literally said it was better until he found out it was FG. They’ll put out reflex 2 and the latency problems will be nearly gone. And you could just NOT go for overkill and ignore x4 and maybe x3 lmao. AND you could (should) also go quality and it’ll look better. They’re literally using the worst possible form of upscaling, and that man still can’t tell that there’s a problem in some of these games

[@M4x505.]

@@julian2238 True LOL. I was a framegen hater but after trying it on a 4060 (I thought that it was a super dumb card) I really liked it. In most of my games I don't feel any input lag (maybe i'm not that sensitive to it idk). I don't get people that hate anything nvidia makes but when AMD copies it then it's great XD Liked it so much i ended up buying a 4060. Now waiting for reflex 2!

[@ultramasterultra5724]

Its like 50% that is barely noticeable on single player games ofc on competitive no one uses frame gen since you already get hundreds of fps your take is stupid and you probably have never tried it

[@AHOP-v9d]

​@@M4x505. These people who yap that FG is trash, ahhhh fake frames high input lag, don't even used it..... I've a 4080 super, and i use both DLSS upscaling and FG, and honestly I can't even tell a difference in latency, yeah I will agree that FG makes some nearly unnoticeable artifacts if baseline Fps is 40 or below..... But i can get over it very easily People can't realize we're reaching silicon limits, as you can see in Cyberpunk, RTX 5090 gave around 30 % more Rasterized Performance but consumes 125 watts more than a 4090's 450 watts ......

[@myamaha62]

Awesome video bud. Enjoyed it very much. You added realism and feel when most others just spit out numbers.keep it up.

[@JediCore]

my man shitting on AW2 makes me so happy. fantastic test. from what I gather, gamers can tell a difference if FG is on or not, but it also depends on a game. Probably games with fast paced movement will suffer, whereas games like AW which are slow would be fine. Also I am really surprised by how well DLSS has gotten. It actually might be worth using it and still have a decent quality. Maybe... Probably only on 4K though... 1440p may still look like ass

[@scientisto7803]

looks fine at 1440p dude

[@JediCore]

@@scientisto7803 I disagree. DLSS has been terrible. Lots of ghosting, smearing, blurriness in the distance.

[@adityadas5820]

Why?

[@kalustaja2k937]

​@@JediCore Yeh I always assume ppl praising dlss must be playing on 4k, 1440p looks bad with upscaling.

[@ClamChowder95]

​@@kalustaja2k937 I'm assuming you've played with the new transformer model /s

[@BMA307]

I would love to see more of this, but if there's one thing we can take from this video, it's that it's pretty hard to tell the difference, the placebo effect is definitely at work here.

[@loneego]

All because devs can't code anymore

[@Danknic1234]

I know right how can you play a game when it can't even run

[@mrpotchh]

A $10,000 priced gpu doesnt sound so hard to believe 10 years from now

[@jerok47]

Motion Blur hides a LOT of the mess left by framegen. Turn it off in Cyberpunk2077 with framegen and move your mouse in circles. It's horrid.

[@domino4843]

My whole upper mid-range PC I built back in 2013 was under $1700 after tax. That included the monitor, headphones, keyboard and mouse.

[@achoy24]

I get 200fps at 1440p native with my AMD card. Costs a quarter of the price and I will never need more than that

[@MyouKyuubi]

ikr? + Linux becomes a real gaming option too! Frametime graphs are a flatline, so even if you have 60 fps, the %-lows are ALSO 60 fps, it feels supernaturally smooth. :3

[@Rocky712_]

Yeah, my 7900XT makes 4k60 easily a thing (only 60hz monitor)

[@Cptraktorn]

I dont think you understand how silly this statement is, 200 fps 1440p native on WHAT SETTINGS? oh i'm sure the "amd card" is 5x faster than 5090, whatever this magical amd card is. Now do me a favour and set it to 4k and path tracing and come back with the numbers. ill wait.

[@MyouKyuubi]

@ Why do you want to see path tracing numbers? Nobody wants path tracing in their games... The feature isn't worth it, costs too much FPS, costs too much money for the GPU, and costs too much money in electricity bills. There's 0 reason to care about path tracing... Especially when it only looks, at most, 10-20% better than normal raster methods. If it looked 50% better, or higher, than i'd agree, but... it just doesn't man, it's barely a graphical improvement at all.

[@achoy24]

@@Cptraktorn dating your mom simulator 2

[@Sandul666]

When you commented that people older are buying it, i myself am a little older. I've never been able to afford anything like this, but the last few years I've finally started doing really well and I'm treating myself to the 5090. But this is literally something I plan on using until the card dies.

[@MRDOMO-fl1fv]

this video about to be ground breaking

[@ts.tanishqsingh]

"I'm never wrong. The one time I thought I was wrong, I was wrong." lmfao😂

[@cry2crysty]

3 views in 23 seconds bro fell off

[@MutheiM_Marz]

Get a life kid, stop this cancerous shit…

[@RTX4070Benchmark]

@@MutheiM_Marz bro can't take a joke to save his life

[@superturkishdelight]

There are 3 hitmen heading straight to your house 😊

[@MutheiM_Marz]

@@RTX4070Benchmarkunfunny joke is annoying, I am not taking everything, unlike your ass.

[@RTX4070Benchmark]

@MutheiM_Marz yeah clearly that ain't the case buddy you got a stick up yours 10/10 ragebait 🙏😭

[@shaggytoph]

As Hardware Unboxed pointed out, multi frame gen works best when you have 100 FPS. If you play when it's at 60fps or less, multi frame gen works horribly, having a lot of artifacts and horrible input latency. It's basically like a bank saying "yeah we will give you a huge loan once we corroborate you are a millionaire". What's even the point? Those hitting 100 FPS already, won't enable this.

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Then change it in the driver options they gave you to either 3x or 2x. Wow, that was easy.

[@shaggytoph]

@DBTHEPLUG all options work the same, you need a base of 100fps or else it'll have visual artifacts & a ton of input lag

[@DBTHEPLUG]

@shaggytoph "visual artifacts and ton of input lag" Damn, I wonder how you played older 30-60 fps games back in the day between 1990-2015 then. These games had a lot of different visual issues, especially because people were playing at 1080p or lower, and the input lag wasn't that good either!

[@thebearded4427]

Ok im never getting a DLSS card. The moment he mentions motion sickness at 8:57 i instantly felt nauseus the moment he started shaking. Kept happening as soon as he shook around with DLSS 4. Well that saved me 2k instantly! (I'm still rocking a 1080 in FPS games, having a great time btw.) When it comes to MR the game becomes SUPER melty if you lower the graphic settings. Like the background melts into the foreground. It's pretty wacky. Also, all of these title tests are in very slow situations with no action. Would love to see a fight in MR with some high DLSS. Walking around in open space wont give a good representation of game feel and image quality.

[@zbigniew2628]

It is about framegen, not scaling🤣 FG is just a BS smoother, like in TVs but way more advanced. DLSS is more advanced TAA.

[@BrutalTime]

Sounds like a you issue.

[@thebearded4427]

@@BrutalTime I know because it is :D Sounds like I'm a you issue.

[@MyouKyuubi]

You could always just buy AMD, their performance is great, and they're cheaper than Nvidia. :)

[@DBTHEPLUG]

Motion sickness? Glad I don't have that crap. Helps that I'm used to seeing stuff moving on a screen since I've been alive.

[@ainesh1406]

17:16 Bro said "wait a min" and I thought he's gonna catch on... but NOPE !! LMAO