Should Americans Worry About Mass Surveillance in the US?

If you’re wondering if your phone is listening to you…the answer is basically, yes. Big Tech knows your every move, purchase, email, and internet search, but data collection affects more than your Netflix queue and Amazon suggestions. Silicon Valley is cashing in on the government’s increased need and reliance on security technology. VICE News' Krishna Andavolu investigates this unlikely alliance of the Feds and Big Tech that’s ushering in a new era of surveillance, with drastic implications for privacy and human rights.
This segment is from the show ‘VICE’ which originally aired in December 2021."
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[@rollingpebble7210]

We’re about 80 billion smart phones too late.

[@andrewnmontemayor]

Exactly. Until we are willing to give up all the convenience a phone brings, there is no beating this.

[@WB-63]

We are waaaaay too late..this ship sailed years ago...now it a matter of how they use it against their targets like people who talk to much...silence the talkers with different techniques and use the blind people against the other people.....AI is learning all our personal stuff on a really deep dark level....think about psychology, Psychiatry and neurology or neurochemistry of each person...useful idiots are useful to someone...and the problem is now in God's hands.

[@cd3121]

Yepp every single social media app, media apps, etc..

[@CaelebVincent]

Lol fr all the 13 year olds talking about word wide servalence while posting everything on social media

[@googleuser868]

It's a lost and found device. They tell you to get lost But Then they come and find you.

[@djangotrane]

Just to be very clear, in case anyone overlooked this, the surveillance is not on the billionaires. Their lives are more completely held in private spaces, and they have teams of lawyers to ensure they’re not being tracked in the same way everyone else is if they choose not to be. This is, ultimately, surveillance of working- and middle-class people.

[@fredmac6555]

Good point

[@nateteator3901]

Elon Musk's aircraft was tracked by a teenager, and his location was made public. Everyone deserves to travel freely without surveillance.

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

@@nateteator3901 aircraft's movement is publicly available info. The kid basically just took flightradar data of one certain plane and made it into a blog. If anything it's FAA surveilling his plane rather then the kid. On top of it there's no expectation of privacy in public. You can install CCTV on your property and stream 24/7 recognizing every car's licence plate, publishing it, playing with statistics, searching for patterns. It's public information. But for government rules should be stricter as while you're using your own resources, the government waste tax-payers' and the government has much more power to abuse. Thus all the limitations. Which they diluted after 9/11

[@Uros141]

@@nateteator3901 His aircraft's movement is public information. Similar to Taylor Swift's airplane movements. That teenager just googled a wesbite and took data from it. But nice try putting a billionaire to whom laws and regulations do not apply with the rest of general public.

[@P2Feener305]

Rich people don’t fly JetBlue mint?

[@AndyHorcasitas-ck6dn]

I'm surprised that so many people still go missing with all these cameras everywhere But how easy it is to find a whistleblower .

[@wikiboy63]

Most missing people get found very quickly. Something like over 90%

[@ASMRarted]

Lol gayyyyuh

[@Big-n3i]

Lol I agree with you. You walk into Walmart and 100% those missing posted on that bulletin board I never hear any word… the feds are the network moving children and adults around.. Human trafficking yo.

[@Merriwether-w8k]

@@wikiboy63 Native American girls!

[@smarkssucks8573]

No dude​@@wikiboy63

[@hisbigal]

No matter how they sugarcoat it, it’s still surveillance.

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

If you were in control, you would also use it to monitor your opponents.

[@VadimBolshakov]

@@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503 It doesn't eliminate the fact that if society doesn't push back it is doomed

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

@@VadimBolshakov There is no way to push back, just accept it.

[@strawdemindset]

Yeah, speaking about the border .. it’s 100 necessary to use surveillance on the border.

[@frankly2677]

As Sean Paul Reyes would say: “they’re always recording us, but always seem to have a problem when we record them”

[@patrickgilmore4602]

Privacy ended with the office of homeland security.

[@BabsKaz]

Yes. And the Patriot Act.

[@asia9116]

As someone who lives in Atlanta, we are LITERALLY protesting these surveillance measures.

[@susanblackley7065]

Thank you for standing up for what is right.

[@Eric-ej3oy]

Why. You got something to hide.

[@analogueoverdigital929]

​@@Eric-ej3oyread a history book

[@ADJvide0z]

@@Eric-ej3oytell your buddies to stop trying to make homosexuality illegal, and then we won't have anything to hide

[@youbigdrip]

@@Eric-ej3oy absolute brain dead, middle school drop out level take.

[@mrwhatsup71]

Snowden warned us

[@caiop.4972]

Exactly.

[@jvelazque005]

He sure did

[@firefly9838]

I am worried too many of my fellow citizens are forgetting his warnings.

[@mrwhatsup71]

@@firefly9838 well ever since about about maybe 2015 the media started being flooded with head line after headline so ppl forget the important topics they don’t know what’s really going on I remember back then there only used to be one story making the news cycle now it’s hundreds and hundreds just look at how fast they have made ppl forget that trump got shot in just 2 weeks that’s crazy

[@SuperPerfectMan]

People need to understand that America have far more rules when it comes to mass surveillance then Europe where no such rules exist that their equivalent to nsa, cia have rules where they can’t spy on their citizens that simply don’t exist in Europe. Never mind Middle East, Asia or South America. They can use all tools

[@iRenegade164]

"Should Americans be worried.....?" Put it this way - Manning, Snowden, Webb, and Assange are/were *ALL HEROES.* Point ______

[@taitraining3055]

Absolutely

[@joshuabillingsley5035]

"If you have nothing to hide" is a literal Gestapo line of thinking. Data privacy will be the forefront of modern rights discussions. We need a right to privacy added to the first amendment.

[@pauobunyon9791]

And mandatory opt out features before any info is shared

[@jpf725]

Would consider my data my papers. 4th amendment.

[@John-qz7wq]

4th amendment pal. That's what everyone means by "losing our rights". We've had protection under the law for 200 something years.

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@belle6071]

Yeah. Sure. Good luck with that.

[@justinjennings8470]

"It's not surveillance, it's for your safety." Scariest words to ever be spoken by authority

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@BabsKaz]

Occifer safety 🙄

[@MartijnPennings]

Also: "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about", think of things that are perfectly legal one day and illegal the next and realize that "they" know everything you've done, every place you've been. It's not hard to do: abortion, marijuana, prostitution, alcohol abuse, any traffic violation. Anything could be next: being LGBT+, aiding an illegal immigrant, any drug use, pornography. That is why there's immeasurable value in privacy.

[@haterfansclub3490]

If we can trust our own family members, why should we trust corporations and the government?

[@skyh]

​@@haterfansclub3490You must not be a stock holder

[@the_Googie]

Theres a reason EU is rolling out data privacy laws that are a pain in the ass for companies and users but ultimately there to stop the worst from the worst. Im german and we only recently got StreetView coverage. It was a big blank spot for a long time. After 2 surveillance states we take our privacy seriously.

[@CedroCron]

The most dangerous words ever said... "Yeah but I have nothing to hide". It's not about hiding, it's about privacy and data not being abused by the wrong hands that can access it. They can't abuse it if they didn't have it in the first place. REMEMBER THAT!

[@JeferonConor]

Also I don’t trust corporations, nor the govt getting info about human rights advocates

[@Googazon_Twitterberg]

This is what every naive child says. I said that until i was about 30. Young people don't care at all and that's been engineered into society.

[@KennyDude-p5f]

Completely agree. This sentiment “I have nothing to hide” turns everything upside down. That sentiment is counter to the U.S. 4th amendment. Why have curtains? Or blinds? Google uses this phrase to assault critics. Everytime someone asks me “what I’m hiding”, I ask “why do you need to know?”

[@KEMough]

Exactly. Decent people will be discouraged to run for office etc because of these things. However people video you with their phone and it isn’t illegal.

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@MARDISTRONG-qv2cx]

It’s surveillance, no matter how you wanna say it. It’s an invasion of personal privacy to be ourselves.

[@OptimisticSatellite-zn1yn]

That's What FBI NAZIZ Do .

[@PiR8Rob]

It's technically not surveillance, because the surveillance has already occurred. They already have all the data they need on us. This is the first steps of the surveillance state's power in full swing. It's probably not going to stop at the airports. The privacy war is over. We lost. Now the war is over who gets to control that power.

[@alfredonski]

Find it interesting how the majority of people who are Now againts this type of surveillance, would have been totally for it, during the so called Coronu pandemic. They would have loved using it to force the vaccination passports, not letting unvaccinated people travel etc. Now 1 year later everybody seems to forget they would have sent their unvaccinated neighbor to a concentration camp if they could have.

[@RabbiYitzchakBenForeskinowitz]

oyvey

[@johnmillis5159]

Yes when your inside your house with the blinds closed it’s private but in any area wear the public is or can see then there is no invasion of privacy are we really this dumb

[@phantasm963]

How are drugs going into the country if there’s all this surveillance?

[@norger]

corruption

[@courn1205]

You'd either have to be foolish or wilfully ignorant not to realize that they're profiterring off our 'drug crisis'. Truth is, they absolutely could cripple the drug market with relative ease (not completely destroy, but critically cripple). Don't ever think anything is 'too low' of an act for the government to do.

[@blznft9513]

Cia- Gary Webb

[@strawdemindset]

Tunnels .. and there are drugs being made here as well.

[@modestmouse2889]

Obviously they want the drugs.

[@bsod111]

as a russian i must say something. here it started similarly, now facial recognition system works everywhere in Moscow, Saint-Petersburg etc, not only in like subway, but on every single camera that you see on the street. yall guys gotta resist it, before it's too late. and either democrats or republicans are not an answer

[@NeoSpacian1237]

It’s hard to resist when the government has the power….even here in America

[@BiWesCrew]

But the people happily trade it for the convinience of the gadgets Apps and all. Just the bloatware on your own phone spies on you. Microphone and Camera used without even asking permission. Let alone all the tracking and certificate thirds bombing. It sucks.

[@alicefreist318]

TRUE THAT!

[@firefly9838]

American here, I agree however not sure what I, one man, can realistic do in the fight for freedom.

[@DearHumanity]

😹 americans gave up any privacy, WILLINGLY after the 11th September. Far too late now. You did it to yourselves....like always #ThisIsamerica

[@jacobedward2401]

"we call it comparison because when people hear facial recognition they think survellience... it's security not survellience" George Orwell is calling

[@caseyyork833]

It's hilarious what VICE has become under Disney ownership.

[@Lent24]

To be fair those aren't exclusive things. Surveillance could be considered just a foundational 'component' of security, which would then mean they aren't the same thing (and the agent's description therefore accurate). Not advocating for/against, I just also don't think it's as simple as 1 vs the other

[@feefawfern8240]

@@caseyyork833 care to elaborate?

[@nameless9560]

@@feefawfern8240 its not fully true, disney does not own vice, they just have around 16% stake in it

[@jacobedward2401]

@@Lent24 well if survellience is a component of security, then the agent's description is backwards. I mean logically speaking, you need surveillance in order to accurately conduct security. She just doesn't want to say the word to keep people at ease.

[@bradical7772]

I live in a small town of nearly 7000 with little to no serious crime. We now have nearly 100 surveillance cameras throughout town. Disgusting!!

[@SSiXaXiS]

There is no expectation of privacy in public. You'd be thankful if those cameras caught something beneficial to you. So stop the fucking act

[@redacted629]

If government isn't watched but the people are... you're in a virtual prison.

[@carlosa.n5100]

If you are against mass surveillance you have no idea how the real world works. You are sleeping on colossal levels.😂

[@14samueld]

​@@carlosa.n5100enlighten us

[@xxlibarat0rxx280]

​@@carlosa.n5100People are against mass surveillance because they don't want companies like Google flagging you as a PDF for taking pictures of your child for a medical examination by a certified doctor to diagnose an issue with your child and ruin your life

[@lopez3088]

​@@carlosa.n5100 Nice try C.I A.

[@carlosa.n5100]

@@lopez3088 you've been recorded since your birth.

[@TM-fr7gh]

They allow crime to justify surveillance.

[@Walkerandrewsmusic]

I could see that.

[@LetsGo_Brandon]

"The appearance of the law must be upheld - especially when it's being broken"

[@chezronstevenson6825]

I'd say they create the crime, to justify the surveillance.

[@beardedlonewolf7695]

This.

[@MilDarty]

Why do you think they allow cars to be stolen. So a kill switch can be mandatory and then you do some wrong think your car doesn’t work anymore.. 😂 duh.

[@wreckdiver61]

You know it’s bad when vice is reporting on it

[@jasonolszanicky4035]

I laughed My Alexa laughed The FBI agent on the other end of Alexa laughed...

[@BLUNT_BUNNY]

Underrated comment

[@notdaro]

iPhone/Android phone *

[@cereal76]

What's always bothered me about this joke is that it's the NSA, not FBI.

[@melissag1066]

​@@notdaroì

[@levmoses742]

I coughed, my TV said hello. I sold my TV This was after I turned off all the surveillance options.

[@chrisbell6849]

Loved the part where she admits to lying about what it is so people are more comfortable with it

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

*THIS*

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@norger]

most people some people have the intellectual forte to see through it

[@akforge]

Research 40 year veteran NSA Officer William Benny, we already live in a Surveillance State. Next step is a Police State.

[@thecavemandynamic2685]

We Americans should be extremely worried about mass surveillance here in the US. Seems like nothing harmful at the moment, but somewhere not to far down the road, it will become extreme government overreach.

[@MrBobbo18]

Yall been saying that since birth certificates were created

[@emabro9]

I’m more worried about criminals that are scared of surveillance because they have something to hide

[@jasonvoss6559]

Ai is bad for us all as humans

[@NoeHerrera-xr2pz]

Thats when itll be too late and the government will have complete control

[@GamerbyDesign]

Will become government overreach? It already has.

[@raysiris]

Americans: we want a secure border American government: mass surveillance it is

[@IloveTide1997]

mass surveillance + infinity illegal immigrants anyways

[@carlosa.n5100]

If you are against mass surveillance you have no idea how the real world works. You are sleeping on colossal levels.😂

[@ent1311]

Citizens commit more crimes than undocumented immigrants.

[@carlosa.n5100]

@@tlw6932 fun fact: you have been recorded since your birth without your knowledge. You just have an issue with it because seeing a camera makes you self-conscious of your actions. Start making peace with it. Everything is taped. Cameras are your least of your worries.

[@kingpenkevlar2215]

​@carlosa.n5100 only if you accept it When people start cutting down every camera or destroying the mass surveillance State.. Once one thing happens that people are not happy with like getting tickets in the mail or taking money out of your account for fines. You chose not to pay or going to jail. Over something that you're constitutionally protected by😅

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

Everyone should be worried no matter whether it's "Ring", Tesla or and especially if it's government agency.

[@RationalMan]

George Orwell couldn’t even comprehend what the state is capable of.

[@jaminova_1969]

I'm literally working for a corporation that punishes employees for "wrong thinking" and negative thoughts in the USA while spewing propaganda and "virtue signalling"!

[@AmisH-q4h]

GPS tracked phones and LPRCs if only he could have fathomed we'd make it a quarter of a century into the 21st one and titled it 2024 Orwell would've zeroed it down perfectly.

[@Fred_the_1996]

If he didn't he wouldn't have written 1984 lol

[@RationalMan]

@@Fred_the_1996 They played children’s games in 1984. How does the book compare to communist China?

[@Mirage475]

1984 is the most quoted book that none of you fucks have even read. Stop mentioning his name unless you’ve actually bothered reading it

[@truthseeking3818]

It's time to STOP being SCARED. And START being PISSED!!! THESE GOVERNMENTS WORK FOR US. WE'VE LET THEM GROW AND THINK THEY OWN US. IT'S TIME WE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE THE ONES IN POWER - ONCE AGAIN. THEY WORK FOR US.

[@robertmarley8852]

They kicked the fathers out the house so they couldn't teach their sons to REBEL

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@AdolfHitler-tz1vc]

Well then Let's do something about It!!

[@AdolfHitler-tz1vc]

I keep seeing comments after comments about this dirty government and that something needs to be done about It yet nobody does anything!! Just talk nothing but talk we have been being spyed on for over 15 years now I think It's time to make a stand , If only the entire Middle class and the poor would just put there lives on pause to deal with this problem!!!!!!! Everyone needs to start by going on strike at work NOW!!!!!! There raping us in taxes while there all getting richer and richer every day , WE NEED to stop working I mean Everybody we need to refuse to let all these migrants inside are borders ASAP I just don't understand how I'd American people just keep letting the government do whatever they want , we have the Government destroyed In man power if we all just put are differences aside for now and Join hands to save are country !!!!!

[@belle6071]

Yeah, good luck with that.

[@brentbackwoods2498]

You should of worried about it 25 years ago, now its too late. Source: Former military

[@GustavoGutierrez27]

Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.

[@TransamMan84]

- Benjamin Franklin

[@rm5228]

The question IS NOT whether or not we should be worried about mass surveillance! The question is HOW do we stop MASS SURVEILLANCE

[@mafcarvalho]

You don't.

[@itsabortive9520]

I don't think it's about stopping it. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Now, we need to worry about regulating it,

[@d-godfather]

stop using electronic devices... the private industry has been surveilling consumers for decades now...

[@pietrojenkins6901]

@@mafcarvalho we just don't want it Chinese style with its social credit and big government calling all shots.

[@mafcarvalho]

@@pietrojenkins6901 that's fair enough.

[@I_Am_Warden]

"F off" 😂😂 i love her

[@ericc6820]

isn’t it ironic how he looked you right in the eye and said “we need to have some level of trust in our citizens” while he rolls out a mass surveillance operation that records their cars without them even realizing consenting. Trust is at the fabric of society. It’s a fundamentally human thing. A baby trusts everything. But unfortunately these people will claim they can’t trust anything while simultaneously benefiting from levels of trust within their own individual life’s.

[@myparceltape1169]

If they haven't been involved in setting it up and knowing what they are doing, the government has dug a hole for itself. Are the tech companies providing things free?

[@libvlog2264]

Cold. These people don’t fear GOD. It’s all about the bread

[@MoreCoffeePlease.]

I literally just paused after he had the *damn* *nerve* to say that, in order to search for this comment. The smirk on his face while saying it too. I’m heated. 😠

[@myparceltape1169]

@@MoreCoffeePlease. It is the citizens who must be able to trust their rulers. Not the other way round. He must gain the trust of the citizens or his project is lost.

[@im.empimp]

@@myparceltape1169 "He must gain the trust of the citizens or his project is lost." - The thing is *_that they don't_*, they only need to get the trust of the people with the money to subject us to it.

[@joybeybeeluv4234]

Lies…….people don’t want to be spied on. Ask people who are free to speak honestly without repercussions…….

[@Bdamazyn]

My privacy is being compromised! Also me: Installs a dash cam🤦🏻

[@TheBenolan]

Let me ask my phone... that's always on me and always listening

[@modestmouse2889]

why are you carrying a phone, grasshopper?

[@_robustus_]

Don’t do anything illegal unless you’re rich.

[@rufatmehdiyev-ev2xq]

Let say you over speed on 35 road 38 to avoid collision and that information transmitted to data center and that data went your insurance and you paying 1200 extra because of it. Or you applied to loan and loan company sold it main data center and you getting every day at least 3 calls day” do you need loan?” I can go on on this. But don’t be ignorant. If you can little bit on you business you gone push forward. This is work with every corporation. They don’t care about your and you community. Day gone sell you information to who pay for it.

[@Le_Dislike_Button]

Doing nothing illegal is not enough. Now it's do nothing that might be perceived as "suspicious"

[@Red_Twizzler]

Do everything illegal and expose their illegal methods

[@Red_Twizzler]

@@rufatmehdiyev-ev2xqI hit the gas to avoid an accident in front of a cop. He didn’t care. He wrote me a ticket. $600 for avoiding an accident

[@JaysusEscobar]

@@Red_Twizzler Take your ticket to the court. That surveillance is your chance of not needing to cough up 600 dollars.

[@davidvines6498]

Stay out of Airports, if you’re in one, you’re being watched

[@blznft9513]

Only airports? Lol satellites can track your every move from the sky

[@hackladdy9886]

"What we do is very different from surveillance" "We've always been getting the biographic data for years" "Now we're biometrically confirming that data" So you're surveilling people, then using it to identify them later. But sure, not surveillance, definitely not. Support the EFF.

[@ianasaavedra]

in every app, in every street before mr snow doc

[@pasda-k4715]

We've been under surveillance in the US. THE LAND OF THE FREE... WHERE EVERYTHING COSTS!

[@orionqc]

The cost of freedom is almost always generational🩸🩸🩸.

[@HiHOLAHolisHello]

@@orionqc LOL "freedom"

[@randystanton1224]

​@@orionqcnow it's worse thanks septuagenarians

[@mattd5681]

Move to a 3rd world country for a year. 🤡

[@purplegoop1247]

@@mattd5681 most 3rd world countries are either under sanctions or have been bombed by the USA, for democracy ofc.

[@ARCDRAGON22]

Privacy should absolutely be PRIVATE!!

[@sleepinthemorningcalm]

Americans love to call everywhere else a dystopia while living in the ultimate dystopia lol

[@HaveanOreshnik]

Agreed 😂

[@dahanster5578]

💯

[@sleepinthemorningcalm]

@toe-bi-wankonobivideos2352 and

[@Keniisu]

@toe-bi-wankonobivideos2352 So are you.

[@samueljackson315]

@@Keniisugot eem!

[@sn1000k]

Surveillance is not being "welcomed with open arms" in the US and it's irresponsible to say it is. Nobody wants to or expects to be tracked and surveilled just because they're in a public space.

[@LawrenceWrenn]

Public is public and there is no expectation of privacy in PUBLIC That's why it's called public

[@Ofasia777]

Every indoor space be it public or private is expected to be surveilled with camera if only for safety. Door cameras are an almost direct consumer-government spy ring which has reached sufficient saturation to cover all American cities and suburbs or at least the facing areas. All businesses are expected to be surveilled in and out, as a matter of course, as are all the outside and inside of landmarks and critical infrastructure (which is mostly all infrastructure). Let's not mention the border, or the privacy of "bad people" (which could be anyone). I think this mostly leave us with the public not "welcoming with open arms" surveillance in the middle of forests and bathroom. For now.

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

why though?

[@LawrenceWrenn]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 because it's public, open to anyone

[@animax54]

Y so woke bro

[@TrEYEClopasaurus]

The America we knew as children is dead. Much like the American dream. The USSA is what we have now and it’s sickening.

[@pauobunyon9791]

Couldn't agree more .But I think by allowing machines data and spyware to be distributed to the public without limit. Its a bad ending brought on by ourselves no one else

[@TrEYEClopasaurus]

@@pauobunyon9791 Sociopaths psychopaths and fear mongers caused this. I’m none of the above.

[@Diametricallyopposed00]

We are sheep and slaves and most people don’t even know it.

[@TrEYEClopasaurus]

@@pauobunyon9791 I have nothing to do with the criminality of the powers that be. Crooks are going to do what crooks do. Power monger politicians and hedge funds have destroyed the fabric of our country. They are the evil in high places. True psychopaths run the world.

[@CanVultus]

When someone says “trust in the public good” just know that they didn’t pay attention to history class and missed the thousands and thousands of years of public evil.

[@thebadassofthewest6022]

Like how people used to be burned alive for disagreeing.

[@tropistan7735]

Or they are psychopaths who know exactly what they are saying: a line used to massage the smooth brained into compliance. What they're really saying is they trust in the public's stupidity to believe that line.

[@princemichael4708]

Julian Assange did say gen z was the last generation to be free..

[@pauobunyon9791]

Gen Z free ? Like a Baby Boomer free ?? I dont think so 😂

[@MrDarkElement]

​@@pauobunyon9791 Rockefeller compulsory education destroyed the Autochthonous culture as we were re-educated by a foreign doctrine of lies and assorted innuendos.

[@anonalpha1190]

Some in government believe the international border extends to inland international airports as well. Let that sink in.

[@Keniisu]

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

[@Ofasia777]

"Just don't ask about my many slaves or the slave ads in my newspaper." -Benjamin Franklin, probably.

[@elguerobasado]

That quote means the exact opposite of what most people think it means. Franklin was arguing in favor of the stability of society over personal liberty when he said that.

[@Eric-ej3oy]

Was BF a progressive like Woodrow Wilson?

[@tonym6193]

@@elguerobasadoyeah nice try fed

[@jonosterman2878]

@@Eric-ej3oy well, he loved hookers, so maybe. But he was also pretty conservative

[@tonyramirez6282]

After 9/11 we scarified privacy for security and after that it just escalated to another level without any say

[@cornkiller534]

Significantly it was the Patriot Act

[@robertmarley8852]

The tyranny Act lol 🤣😭😭😭

[@MyDadLeftMe3]

Who the hell is “we?” It only took 98 people to make that decision and I don’t think anyone here is one of them

[@PinkPalace-gf8cw]

​@@thegeneral1955good ol' George Dubya was in power when the Patriot Act was implemented, not Obama. But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story

[@ragantate3995]

The answer is yes. It’s already happening. You don’t have to have been at an airport for it to happen either.

[@rollingsteady3107]

While the government is watching us, who is watching the government?

[@irobbedyou863]

Russians

[@judykinsman3258]

The oligarchs who are really in charge. They are the contractors the government is funding with our tax dollars.

[@mic_at_nite]

Academics and journalists. And sadly not everyone in these two groups are doing so. The public should also be watching, but we're too busy trying to survive and build our individual careers to adequately (personally) keep watch - exacerbated by the fact that a lot of journalistic and academic sources that can help us stay in the loop are pay-walled for the benefit of the publishers and not the authors.

[@asdasdasdasdasd9795]

The chosen people

[@darkprince9064]

China

[@shanmathis2000]

I live in Atlanta and didn’t know any of this. This is mind blowing to me.

[@niedziwedzpolarny7269]

they watch every step u make

[@spicywater123]

15:24 Give this woman the congressional medal of honor

[@Alex_Chilton]

“Nobody wants big brother” says little brother

[@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841]

Lil sis says otherwise😏

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@O.GGrandMasterOG]

​@@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841 Lil sis needs to go to the kitchen and learn how to make a sandwich and keep her trap shut.🤗

[@rubberonasphalt]

Never felt more helpless in the world, where all the decisions are made for us behind closed doors, and we have no meaningful way to speak up

[@ОгурецМолоко]

Welcome to techno-feudalism

[@mercedesb2299]

Thank you Vice for giving air time to the people who live at the border. I am in Arizona, and was living on what I thought was going to be peaceful acreage away from the city in the quiet wide open desert 16 miles from the US/Mexico border. It was NOT peaceful or quiet, and no, migrants were not the problem. It is infuriating. Everything this woman shared is 100% true.

[@MoonQiFumbo]

When you realize that the name Palantir is the crystal ball used by Saruman and Sauron from the Lord of the Rings is appropriated in our real world for use of surveillance and big brother ordeal.

[@MrDarkElement]

Saturn-alia (alien)

[@blacksabbathmatters]

And im sure the company wasnt created by some super nerd that has lotr bedsheets and decided on the name because of that. 😂

[@peterliu8562]

People are comfortable with their doorbell cameras capturing strangers' faces and sometimes cars passing by, but are also uncomfortable with their own faces or cars being captured by others.

[@bradhaines3142]

on your property you can do whatever you want. that should be completely legal and understood. public is the issue, feds have no right to record everywhere people go

[@apelike]

@@bradhaines3142 Yes they do... in the same way that you have a right to record in public.

[@adlsfreund]

@@apelike So I have a right to set up thousands of cameras covering every angle of public spaces and the police won't do anything? Are you sure about that?

[@domonator1167]

no one in a single family home is making a database of their front door visitors. there’s a large difference here

[@apelike]

@@domonator1167 But you can... no one is stopping you from grabbing a pen and paper and writing down every car you see that drives infront of your house. Not a thing stopping you.

[@BacktotheFutures-t3p]

Oh yes a big f off at the end 😂😂

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

"It's very different from surveillance" and then she goes on to describe using it for exactly what surveillance is.......

[@VetranoD]

Shouldn't this have been a video / topic of discussion, say...20+ years ago now ?

[@mason96575]

@@VetranoD 20 - 23 years ago we were all preoccupied with giving away as much liberty, privacy, and freedom as possible to secure an illusion of safety

[@sn1000k]

It was, after Snowden leaked all the NSA stuff. Obviously those in power are more concerned with "gathering data" than worrying about the implications of the whole apparatus

[@garolstipock]

@@mason96575 Amen. Dept of Homeland Security was cheered into being with resounding applause... cos... "terrorists". The only word you need to whisper to make hundreds of millions willingly surrender all their rights.

[@VetranoD]

@@mason96575 We love our security theatre here.

[@susanblackley7065]

Do you remember a guy named Snowden? Google him.

[@mason96575]

Little by little, we agreed (as a whole) to give up a little bit more of our liberty, privacy, and overall freedom, for an illusion of safety. Little by little, we agreed to it. And little by little, they asked for more, more, and more. The Patriot Act goes against so, so much of how our Founding Fathers wanted our country to be… but here we are two decades later - and it has become so normalized that I’ve heard those too young to know life before - as in, I’ve heard Gen Z kids literally say and wholeheartedly believe the phrase “well, if I’m not doing anything wrong- or I don’t have anything to hide- what’s the harm? It can help keep us safe!” 🤦‍♂️

[@jesusgonzales1045]

yeah yeah little by little we agree bs I never agreed to that as well as many other Americans I know. We need to stop this surveillance thats foresure. And who taught Gen z kids that? Arent boomers gen xers millennials no different?

[@jonosterman2878]

We didn’t agree, they forced it on us.

[@BoxingRestricted]

Why are so many innocent citizens being put on a watchlist/blacklist in handling codes 3 & 4 non investigative subjects and having their lives ruined???

[@metamorphic75]

Looks like America has committed to becoming a total police and surveillance state.

[@maikoah]

This might be the single funniest comment I have ever seen in my life

[@joeldelarosa4351]

5GW, Social Engineering.

[@firefly9838]

The people won't do anything so

[@Xavier-uknonada]

I've been a super criminal for decades and just found out about it 3 years ago. I get followed daily, and every employer is told to fear me and fire me. There are some super crazy people is what I say. T Watching too much crime tv.

[@Cruiser-tb5zc]

How does it make you feel knowing that the government knows just exactly who clicked on this video and watched it? Yay, freedom! 😀

[@Theendofeverything7036]

Noticed cameras popping up everywhere in my town, it happened overnight. I told my husband how all of the sudden these cameras are scattered everywhere in town and he said that he did notice.

[@DeltaOGaming]

Where @?

[@QuintessentialJenesequa-u5o]

​@@DeltaOGamingeverywhere

[@redacted629]

Stop treating EVERYONE as "bad people" and "bad thing".

[@RosaResendis]

technically everyone is bad , only God is good . . .

[@carlosa.n5100]

If you are against mass surveillance you have no idea how the real world works. You are sleeping on colossal levels.😂

[@miltonwaddams2564]

@@carlosa.n5100 I see you repeating the statement over and over you are clearly an AI or just brainwashed same thing. People can be against it while also understanding that it is everywhere and it cannot be stopped. Practice thinking more like a human because you are very bad at comments. Edit- human error 😂

[@redacted629]

@@carlosa.n5100 if you like it then you can have it.

[@redacted629]

@@RosaResendis I respect your right to your beliefs

[@mr.bluenotedoobop]

Everyone worries, yet there’s security cameras in every home, dash cams everywhere and if crime is happening, people pull out the phone camera. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Marky-Mark1337]

Every since 9-11 American wasnt the same.

[@MrDarkElement]

Project For A New American Century"...circa; 2000 A.D. - 3000 A. Depopulation

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

Correct. Bush and Communist Republicans. REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@dougstanley7662]

Why do you think they dropped the towers?

[@BabsKaz]

The patriot act did this.

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

Repeal the UNpatriot Act!! Defund DC and shrink the ruling beurocrat class!

[@gypsy5445]

I never have never given the airports, or TSA permission to have my photographic image, they just took it. You have no choice if you want to fly.

[@firefly9838]

Don't fly public. Private or Drive.

[@annadelamor]

You can opt out of taking the image. Step to the side of the camera and say "I'd like to opt out". Most of the TSA folks respond well, only a few are grumpy about it, but it says right there in the fine print we have the right to opt out. I've been doing that since they rolled it out a few years ago

[@tomtom1541]

​@@annadelamoryeah you can, but your passport / drivers licence selfie is already on the computer.

[@sebastiankhan1]

@@annadelamorwait until you run into the wrong one they can make your life miserable. You will be sitting in the airport for hours I’ve been through it.

[@analogueoverdigital929]

You actually do have the choice.

[@Vactory]

How is there such a huge discrepancy in the quality of their videos and articles? The videos are top tier.

[@investorbettor505]

This is quite literally insane.

[@sitindogmas]

as someone who was convicted as a felon over 20 years ago, any intell bug brother has on you, is an automatic assumption at every encounter and it's usually negative

[@coolboy5428]

That, the state is evil, not to be trusted.

[@faustjoe]

Patriot Act means Proud Americans taking respect in our technology. Yeah right

[@idra-j5y]

Short answer: yes Long answer : YES

[@volkov-auf]

Everyone should worry about mass surveillance

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Now even on the local level police are using body cams to document the arrest in case they have to testify in court

[@Top3tings]

“If there listening now whats ur message” what a quote

[@Hold_on_now_playa]

Eventually they will shut off your car if you haven’t paid your taxes. Sick world.

[@wdl2499]

​@lostinthedesert-hp4bw you have to look deeper. With mass surveillance every journalist, every human, be it just a person, a rights or freedoms activist or anyone can be put down by corporations or whatever huge enough entity. They could pass whatever laws and take down any opposition

[@thebadassofthewest6022]

Electric cars can be shut off. They can also be shut off with EMPs.

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, spiritual and chemical attacks; death threats, vandalism, physical and sexual harrassment and mental abuse: WOKE Clergy, Military, Governments, US, Neo Nazis, Wagner, China, Iran and Korea. My family and I are not your property.

[@bkzach]

I guarantee they'll do it for less, missed your inspection date, didn't update your address on time, no driving privileges.

[@blznft9513]

They'll paul walker you

[@Febr7]

The dangers of Vance's ties to people like Thiele are grossly underreported.

[@reneefletcher1143]

Elon as well. He goes way back with Thiel when they created PayPal. Wild to see so many trust him when he’s in the same circles. Like the “free speech” platform isn’t just an easier way to focus on who says the wildest things (then ends up on a surveillance list).

[@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841]

Yeah really, the day I heard about the pick my female boss stepped in my cubical type office just to small talk and then I happened to hear about JD, with a slightly louder than normal voice I said "that's BS, out of all the men it had to be him" I quickly realized my mistake when I looked up to see literally everyone looking over at us and also hearing a few people who were totally laughing.

[@lifebydanielsan]

So happy you had them on....i still rewatch and recommend thie show

[@kueacybtguicyregfibubkueacybax]

Short answer, yes. They track every avenue of your life, cellular, your isp, your car, at the operating system level, and now a public infrastructure scale.

[@513Canyon]

With your tax money

[@skyh]

DNA

[@forrestwhichard2862]

That Peachtree guy is a creep. “But we can track when our neighbors come and go.” “Yeah…”

[@arthurpeter6148]

The day will come when we will have a camera in the toilet

[@MegaOCER]

just because we dont see it doesn't mean its not already happening

[@mason96575]

Well, I believe we all do see it. And most of us have been acutely aware of it - at the very least, since Snowden opened a lot of our eyes. The problem is complacency and just being jaded about it, overall. For lack of a better phrase - just being lazy about it… (Myself included)

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

Tinfoil hat. If you do not see a camera, it probably doesn't exist. And no you do not have your own government agent watching over you.

[@MoiraWillenov]

In other words... The absence of evidence does not indicate the evidence of absence.

[@g2k222]

They don’t wipe their files when they’re done, they store them in glacial storage. Even *this* message will never really be deleted.

[@pacosanchez7216]

Big ego don't you think?

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

And? Dont do anything bad and you're fine. You cant even get rid of it. If the people who claim to be against this, overthrew the government tomorrow, they too would use mass surveillance to keep track of their opponents. Get used to it.

[@asakurayoh3909]

How is American govt different from CCP ?

[@lizi.2503]

It’s too late to worry about mass surveillance.

[@Mc2hammer22]

Sooo there’s all this surveillance happening but people randomly go missing and there’s no way to find them??

[@DetectiveTrupo203]

Who is missing? List their names

[@Luvemliljs]

@@DetectiveTrupo203are you delusional? There are over 5 people going missing everyday in the US

[@jonosterman2878]

@@DetectiveTrupo203 there’s a big long list, if you know how to use google. Do you know how to us googl little buddy?

[@jonosterman2878]

That’s because a vast majority of the data they collect on us is what’s known as dark data. It’s basically trash and meaningless, not helpful to any sort of security or investigation.

[@starseedpitstop685]

600,000 kids go missing a year in the US look it up urself bot​@@DetectiveTrupo203

[@jayahhrgh3609]

I was thinking the same thing at the very end of the video

[@user-enter-here]

On average you are on a surveillance video 20 times a day if you live in a major US city. Rouge police officers will not use this tech on their own spouse or neighbor right?

[@BlackSheep_216]

Police will use it to stalk your hot wife.

[@dingusdingus2152]

Rogue. Rouge is French for red

[@thesecondvariety2981]

I just don’t want the government to know every little move I make.

[@pacosanchez7216]

every breath you take every move you make I'll be watchin you

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

You really are not special enough for the government to know your every move.

[@elaztec.aztecca]

They know when you’re coming AND going so they can entirely breach your homes and personal lives at will with nobody to stop them from that access.

[@SilkieRoo]

I couldn't help but laugh at, "So like... I could see my neighbors coming and going..." dramatic music Yeah... Like you already can with your own eyes... Lol

[@flipper4444]

If we trust our neighbors why would we need to surveil them

[@scoon2117]

Freedom was yesterday's America.-HST

[@PlanetOfTheAztecs]

Pre European invasion ...

[@flowerforsyte5671]

Yeah. America is no longer the same country. In the 1980's and early 1990's America was awesome! It was so fun, energetic, positive, calm, chill, and peaceful.

[@samueljackson315]

@@flowerforsyte5671Yeah the 80s was filled with fun things like aids and crack

[@boslyporshy6553]

The Red Scares and Sedition Acts laugh.

[@OhiChicken]

Harmonized Sales Tax

[@beea4456]

I live in ATL, unfortunately the surveillance actually does not prevent the crime most of us face. My friend was killed in ATL. I would have preferred the money be spent preventing crime then detecting it after it happened.

[@davidnelson5381]

You're a little late to the party on this topic. Once red-light cameras became acceptable early this century, the flood gates disappeared. Now, besides cameras on street corners, along highways, and on government and/or healthcare buildings, nearly every person has a camera that is susceptible to having recordings used when a crime occurs in order to prosecute, for example. Society has fueled the advancement of the police state against itself.

[@Coffee.9]

and yet crimes still happen and nothing is done. It's awful. It's used to abuse more than to protect. I will die on that statement. Example, my car was set on fire, my friends car after giving me a ride was set on fire... I truly believe by the same people... NOTHING was done to help either of us who were victims of that crime. They had footage of both events. Both times the police said nothing could be done. Absolute BS.

[@jonosterman2878]

@@Coffee.9 wrong, crime has steady gone down along side the introduction of security technology like cctv. Rates of solving violent crimes have gone up. Google is free, ya dingus. Use it next time.

[@jonosterman2878]

@@Coffee.9 cute anecdote btw

[@rebelroar78]

It wasn’t the red light cameras. It was the PATRIOT act.

[@ebwmusicproduction]

edward snowden: Am I a joke to you?

[@jaredweiman2987]

Did VICE just stop paying attention to the world after 9/11/2001?

[@samueljackson315]

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

[@mason96575]

Fredrich Nietsczhe really had some phenomenal quotes like that.

[@BarrGC]

​@@mason96575 Benjamin Franklin actually...

[@mason96575]

@@BarrGC oh, you misunderstood! I didn’t claim Nietsczhe said that extremely popular and well-known Benjamin Franklin quote. Did not claim that at all. I merely said he has some phenomenal quotes *like* that.

[@analogueoverdigital929]

We all did when we bought smartphones..

[@mason96575]

@@BarrGC admittedly, I was bored… so I cast that out as intentionally vague bait

[@thedarkside13]

Watching this on my neighbor's wifi while wearing a ski mask.