Should Americans Worry About Mass Surveillance in the US?

[@djangotrane]

Just to be very clear, in case anyone overlooked this, the surveillance is not on the billionaires. Their lives are more completely held in private spaces, and they have teams of lawyers to ensure they’re not being tracked in the same way everyone else is if they choose not to be. This is, ultimately, surveillance of working- and middle-class people.

[@fredmac6555]

Good point

[@nateteator3901]

Elon Musk's aircraft was tracked by a teenager, and his location was made public. Everyone deserves to travel freely without surveillance.

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

@@nateteator3901 aircraft's movement is publicly available info. The kid basically just took flightradar data of one certain plane and made it into a blog. If anything it's FAA surveilling his plane rather then the kid. On top of it there's no expectation of privacy in public. You can install CCTV on your property and stream 24/7 recognizing every car's licence plate, publishing it, playing with statistics, searching for patterns. It's public information. But for government rules should be stricter as while you're using your own resources, the government waste tax-payers' and the government has much more power to abuse. Thus all the limitations. Which they diluted after 9/11

[@Uros141]

@@nateteator3901 His aircraft's movement is public information. Similar to Taylor Swift's airplane movements. That teenager just googled a wesbite and took data from it. But nice try putting a billionaire to whom laws and regulations do not apply with the rest of general public.

[@P2Feener305]

Rich people don’t fly JetBlue mint?

[@rollingpebble7210]

We’re about 80 billion smart phones too late.

[@andrewnmontemayor]

Exactly. Until we are willing to give up all the convenience a phone brings, there is no beating this.

[@WB-63]

We are waaaaay too late..this ship sailed years ago...now it a matter of how they use it against their targets like people who talk to much...silence the talkers with different techniques and use the blind people against the other people.....AI is learning all our personal stuff on a really deep dark level....think about psychology, Psychiatry and neurology or neurochemistry of each person...useful idiots are useful to someone...and the problem is now in God's hands.

[@cd3121]

Yepp every single social media app, media apps, etc..

[@CaelebVincent]

Lol fr all the 13 year olds talking about word wide servalence while posting everything on social media

[@googleuser868]

It's a lost and found device. They tell you to get lost But Then they come and find you.

[@patrickgilmore4602]

Privacy ended with the office of homeland security.

[@BabsKaz]

Yes. And the Patriot Act.

[@K9jayvee]

If you don’t even know the name of the department you probably shouldn’t comment.

[@uradragon]

And the American Stasi began with the Patriot Act. Hundreds of thousands recruited to surveil fellow citizens. Brainwashing included...

[@lucasjedidiah7482]

Privacy ended with the creation of the Central Intelligence Agency…. 🤧👌🏼

[@sexydmvnygga9187]

Privacy ended when you came out the womb.

[@hisbigal]

No matter how they sugarcoat it, it’s still surveillance.

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

If you were in control, you would also use it to monitor your opponents.

[@VadimBolshakov]

@@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503 It doesn't eliminate the fact that if society doesn't push back it is doomed

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

@@VadimBolshakov There is no way to push back, just accept it.

[@strawdemindset]

Yeah, speaking about the border .. it’s 100 necessary to use surveillance on the border.

[@K9jayvee]

It’s not semantics it’s how it’s used that makes it different

[@jasonolszanicky4035]

I laughed My Alexa laughed The FBI agent on the other end of Alexa laughed...

[@BLUNT_BUNNY]

Underrated comment

[@notdaro]

iPhone/Android phone *

[@cereal76]

What's always bothered me about this joke is that it's the NSA, not FBI.

[@melissag1066]

​@@notdaroì

[@levmoses742]

I coughed, my TV said hello. I sold my TV This was after I turned off all the surveillance options.

[@phantasm963]

How are drugs going into the country if there’s all this surveillance?

[@norger]

corruption

[@courn1205]

You'd either have to be foolish or wilfully ignorant not to realize that they're profiterring off our 'drug crisis'. Truth is, they absolutely could cripple the drug market with relative ease (not completely destroy, but critically cripple). Don't ever think anything is 'too low' of an act for the government to do.

[@blznft9513]

Cia- Gary Webb

[@strawdemindset]

Tunnels .. and there are drugs being made here as well.

[@modestmouse2889]

Obviously they want the drugs.

[@frankly2677]

As Sean Paul Reyes would say: “they’re always recording us, but always seem to have a problem when we record them”

[@JDN_94]

Criminals don’t like being recorded

[@jsadecki1]

There's where we should use the exact same thing they say "If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about"

[@adrianramirez4453]

We the People!

[@asia9116]

As someone who lives in Atlanta, we are LITERALLY protesting these surveillance measures.

[@susanblackley7065]

Thank you for standing up for what is right.

[@Eric-ej3oy]

Why. You got something to hide.

[@analogueoverdigital929]

​@@Eric-ej3oyread a history book

[@ADJvide0z]

@@Eric-ej3oytell your buddies to stop trying to make homosexuality illegal, and then we won't have anything to hide

[@youbigdrip]

@@Eric-ej3oy absolute brain dead, middle school drop out level take.

[@iRenegade164]

"Should Americans be worried.....?" Put it this way - Manning, Snowden, Webb, and Assange are/were *ALL HEROES.* Point ______

[@taitraining3055]

Absolutely

[@HippieMace]

Webb?

[@iRenegade164]

@@HippieMace - Gary Webb (RIP) - look him up and you'll agree....

[@mrwhatsup71]

Snowden warned us

[@caiop.4972]

Exactly.

[@jvelazque005]

He sure did

[@firefly9838]

I am worried too many of my fellow citizens are forgetting his warnings.

[@mrwhatsup71]

@@firefly9838 well ever since about about maybe 2015 the media started being flooded with head line after headline so ppl forget the important topics they don’t know what’s really going on I remember back then there only used to be one story making the news cycle now it’s hundreds and hundreds just look at how fast they have made ppl forget that trump got shot in just 2 weeks that’s crazy

[@SuperPerfectMan]

People need to understand that America have far more rules when it comes to mass surveillance then Europe where no such rules exist that their equivalent to nsa, cia have rules where they can’t spy on their citizens that simply don’t exist in Europe. Never mind Middle East, Asia or South America. They can use all tools

[@jacobedward2401]

"we call it comparison because when people hear facial recognition they think survellience... it's security not survellience" George Orwell is calling

[@caseyyork833]

It's hilarious what VICE has become under Disney ownership.

[@lemonpics24]

To be fair those aren't exclusive things. Surveillance could be considered just a foundational 'component' of security, which would then mean they aren't the same thing (and the agent's description therefore accurate). Not advocating for/against, I just also don't think it's as simple as 1 vs the other

[@feefawfern8240]

@@caseyyork833 care to elaborate?

[@nameless9560]

@@feefawfern8240 its not fully true, disney does not own vice, they just have around 16% stake in it

[@jacobedward2401]

@@lemonpics24 well if survellience is a component of security, then the agent's description is backwards. I mean logically speaking, you need surveillance in order to accurately conduct security. She just doesn't want to say the word to keep people at ease.

[@beea4456]

I live in ATL, unfortunately the surveillance actually does not prevent the crime most of us face. My friend was killed in ATL. I would have preferred the money be spent preventing crime then detecting it after it happened.

[@3rdmannn]

this is the MO for this kind of surveillance unfortunately, discovering the identities of violent criminals is the secondary purpose and convenient excuse for tracking all the residents of a given geographic area, whereas the primary purpose is criminalizing and entrapping as many people as it takes to fill the free-labor requirements of prisons. if they wanted to prevent crime, we'd have already had unimaginably large investments in infrastructure, education, healthcare, and housing. the fact you're not seeing that is proof enough that surveillance is your enemy and not your friend for the good things that rarely come of it. also, i'm sorry to hear about your friend, i hope you have found peace and recovery.

[@MARDISTRONG-qv2cx]

It’s surveillance, no matter how you wanna say it. It’s an invasion of personal privacy to be ourselves.

[@OptimisticSatellite-zn1yn]

That's What FBI NAZIZ Do .

[@PiR8Rob]

It's technically not surveillance, because the surveillance has already occurred. They already have all the data they need on us. This is the first steps of the surveillance state's power in full swing. It's probably not going to stop at the airports. The privacy war is over. We lost. Now the war is over who gets to control that power.

[@alfredonski]

Find it interesting how the majority of people who are Now againts this type of surveillance, would have been totally for it, during the so called Coronu pandemic. They would have loved using it to force the vaccination passports, not letting unvaccinated people travel etc. Now 1 year later everybody seems to forget they would have sent their unvaccinated neighbor to a concentration camp if they could have.

[@RabbiYitzchakBenForeskinowitz]

oyvey

[@johnmillis5159]

Yes when your inside your house with the blinds closed it’s private but in any area wear the public is or can see then there is no invasion of privacy are we really this dumb

[@bsod111]

as a russian i must say something. here it started similarly, now facial recognition system works everywhere in Moscow, Saint-Petersburg etc, not only in like subway, but on every single camera that you see on the street. yall guys gotta resist it, before it's too late. and either democrats or republicans are not an answer

[@NeoSpacian1237]

It’s hard to resist when the government has the power….even here in America

[@BiWesCrew]

But the people happily trade it for the convinience of the gadgets Apps and all. Just the bloatware on your own phone spies on you. Microphone and Camera used without even asking permission. Let alone all the tracking and certificate thirds bombing. It sucks.

[@alicefreist318]

TRUE THAT!

[@firefly9838]

American here, I agree however not sure what I, one man, can realistic do in the fight for freedom.

[@DearHumanity]

😹 americans gave up any privacy, WILLINGLY after the 11th September. Far too late now. You did it to yourselves....like always #ThisIsamerica

[@brentbackwoods2498]

You should of worried about it 25 years ago, now its too late. Source: Former military

[@joshuabillingsley5035]

"If you have nothing to hide" is a literal Gestapo line of thinking. Data privacy will be the forefront of modern rights discussions. We need a right to privacy added to the first amendment.

[@pauobunyon9791]

And mandatory opt out features before any info is shared

[@jpf725]

Would consider my data my papers. 4th amendment.

[@John-qz7wq]

4th amendment pal. That's what everyone means by "losing our rights". We've had protection under the law for 200 something years.

[@belle6071]

Yeah. Sure. Good luck with that.

[@x8jason8x]

Not literal, actual.

[@CedroCron]

The most dangerous words ever said... "Yeah but I have nothing to hide". It's not about hiding, it's about privacy and data not being abused by the wrong hands that can access it. They can't abuse it if they didn't have it in the first place. REMEMBER THAT!

[@JeferonConor]

Also I don’t trust corporations, nor the govt getting info about human rights advocates

[@Googazon_Twitterberg]

This is what every naive child says. I said that until i was about 30. Young people don't care at all and that's been engineered into society.

[@KennyDude-p5f]

Completely agree. This sentiment “I have nothing to hide” turns everything upside down. That sentiment is counter to the U.S. 4th amendment. Why have curtains? Or blinds? Google uses this phrase to assault critics. Everytime someone asks me “what I’m hiding”, I ask “why do you need to know?”

[@KEMough]

Exactly. Decent people will be discouraged to run for office etc because of these things. However people video you with their phone and it isn’t illegal.

[@MartijnPennings]

Whenever you hear "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about", think of things that are perfectly legal one day and illegal the next and realize that "they" know everything you've done, every place you've been. It's not hard to do: abortion, marijuana, prostitution, alcohol abuse, any traffic violation. Anything could be next: being LGBT+, aiding an illegal immigrant, any drug use, pornography. You never know what's coming. That is why there's immeasurable value in privacy.

[@I_Am_Warden]

"F off" 😂😂 i love her

[@justinjennings8470]

"It's not surveillance, it's for your safety." Scariest words to ever be spoken by authority

[@BabsKaz]

Occifer safety 🙄

[@MartijnPennings]

Also: "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about", think of things that are perfectly legal one day and illegal the next and realize that "they" know everything you've done, every place you've been. It's not hard to do: abortion, marijuana, prostitution, alcohol abuse, any traffic violation. Anything could be next: being LGBT+, aiding an illegal immigrant, any drug use, pornography. That is why there's immeasurable value in privacy.

[@haterfansclub3490]

If we can trust our own family members, why should we trust corporations and the government?

[@skyh]

​@@haterfansclub3490You must not be a stock holder

[@haterfansclub3490]

@@skyh you must not understand we hate money it destroyed everything because humans

[@redacted629]

If government isn't watched but the people are... you're in a virtual prison.

[@carlosa.n5100]

If you are against mass surveillance you have no idea how the real world works. You are sleeping on colossal levels.😂

[@14samueld]

​@@carlosa.n5100enlighten us

[@xxlibarat0rxx280]

​@@carlosa.n5100People are against mass surveillance because they don't want companies like Google flagging you as a PDF for taking pictures of your child for a medical examination by a certified doctor to diagnose an issue with your child and ruin your life

[@lopez3088]

​@@carlosa.n5100 Nice try C.I A.

[@carlosa.n5100]

@@lopez3088 you've been recorded since your birth.

[@fu566]

Say whatever word you want lady it is surveillance AND A VIOLATION OF RIGHTS

[@Praisethesunson]

Well guess you can try taking that violation of rights to court. Good luck poor person

[@AndyHorcasitas-ck6dn]

I'm surprised that so many people still go missing with all these cameras everywhere But how easy it is to find a whistleblower .

[@wikiboy63]

Most missing people get found very quickly. Something like over 90%

[@ASMRarted]

Lol gayyyyuh

[@Big-n3i]

Lol I agree with you. You walk into Walmart and 100% those missing posted on that bulletin board I never hear any word… the feds are the network moving children and adults around.. Human trafficking yo.

[@Merriwether-w8k]

@@wikiboy63 Native American girls!

[@smarkssucks8573]

No dude​@@wikiboy63

[@truthseeking3818]

It's time to STOP being SCARED. And START being PISSED!!! THESE GOVERNMENTS WORK FOR US. WE'VE LET THEM GROW AND THINK THEY OWN US. IT'S TIME WE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE THE ONES IN POWER - ONCE AGAIN. THEY WORK FOR US.

[@robertmarley8852]

They kicked the fathers out the house so they couldn't teach their sons to REBEL

[@AdolfHitler-tz1vc]

Well then Let's do something about It!!

[@AdolfHitler-tz1vc]

I keep seeing comments after comments about this dirty government and that something needs to be done about It yet nobody does anything!! Just talk nothing but talk we have been being spyed on for over 15 years now I think It's time to make a stand , If only the entire Middle class and the poor would just put there lives on pause to deal with this problem!!!!!!! Everyone needs to start by going on strike at work NOW!!!!!! There raping us in taxes while there all getting richer and richer every day , WE NEED to stop working I mean Everybody we need to refuse to let all these migrants inside are borders ASAP I just don't understand how I'd American people just keep letting the government do whatever they want , we have the Government destroyed In man power if we all just put are differences aside for now and Join hands to save are country !!!!!

[@belle6071]

Yeah, good luck with that.

[@SorryDudeImBroke]

Those days are gone lol

[@Bryan-cw4dn]

This is the double /triple standard…we need camera to have proof of certain things. Cameras help, but if we don’t let them record in our homes…oh wait!?!? “ I can see when my neighbors… who cares. Ring has been doing it for how long

[@TM-fr7gh]

They allow crime to justify surveillance.

[@Walkerandrewsmusic]

I could see that.

[@LetsGo_Brandon]

"The appearance of the law must be upheld - especially when it's being broken"

[@chezronstevenson6825]

I'd say they create the crime, to justify the surveillance.

[@beardedlonewolf7695]

This.

[@MilDarty]

Why do you think they allow cars to be stolen. So a kill switch can be mandatory and then you do some wrong think your car doesn’t work anymore.. 😂 duh.

[@chrisbell6849]

Loved the part where she admits to lying about what it is so people are more comfortable with it

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

*THIS*

[@norger]

most people some people have the intellectual forte to see through it

[@faustjoe]

Patriot Act means Proud Americans taking respect in our technology. Yeah right

[@thecavemandynamic2685]

We Americans should be extremely worried about mass surveillance here in the US. Seems like nothing harmful at the moment, but somewhere not to far down the road, it will become extreme government overreach.

[@MrBobbo18]

Yall been saying that since birth certificates were created

[@emabro9]

I’m more worried about criminals that are scared of surveillance because they have something to hide

[@jasonvoss6559]

Ai is bad for us all as humans

[@NoeHerrera-xr2pz]

Thats when itll be too late and the government will have complete control

[@GamerbyDesign]

Will become government overreach? It already has.

[@raysiris]

Americans: we want a secure border American government: mass surveillance it is

[@IloveTide1997]

mass surveillance + infinity illegal immigrants anyways

[@carlosa.n5100]

If you are against mass surveillance you have no idea how the real world works. You are sleeping on colossal levels.😂

[@ent1311]

Citizens commit more crimes than undocumented immigrants.

[@carlosa.n5100]

@@tlw6932 fun fact: you have been recorded since your birth without your knowledge. You just have an issue with it because seeing a camera makes you self-conscious of your actions. Start making peace with it. Everything is taped. Cameras are your least of your worries.

[@kingpenkevlar2215]

​@carlosa.n5100 only if you accept it When people start cutting down every camera or destroying the mass surveillance State.. Once one thing happens that people are not happy with like getting tickets in the mail or taking money out of your account for fines. You chose not to pay or going to jail. Over something that you're constitutionally protected by😅

[@1ofd3m1s5]

When I was in middle school, I read a book from George Orwell called “1984” and made nothing of it as a young child. Now “Big Brother” is actually coming to fruition sooner than I Imagined.

[@RationalMan]

George Orwell couldn’t even comprehend what the state is capable of.

[@jaminova_1969]

I'm literally working for a corporation that punishes employees for "wrong thinking" and negative thoughts in the USA while spewing propaganda and "virtue signalling"!

[@AmisH-q4h]

GPS tracked phones and LPRCs if only he could have fathomed we'd make it a quarter of a century into the 21st one and titled it 2024 Orwell would've zeroed it down perfectly.

[@Fred_the_1996]

If he didn't he wouldn't have written 1984 lol

[@RationalMan]

@@Fred_the_1996 They played children’s games in 1984. How does the book compare to communist China?

[@Mirage475]

1984 is the most quoted book that none of you fucks have even read. Stop mentioning his name unless you’ve actually bothered reading it

[@sleepinthemorningcalm]

Americans love to call everywhere else a dystopia while living in the ultimate dystopia lol

[@HaveanOreshnik]

Agreed 😂

[@dahanster5578]

💯

[@sleepinthemorningcalm]

@toe-bi-wankonobivideos2352 and

[@Keniisu]

@toe-bi-wankonobivideos2352 So are you.

[@samueljackson315]

@@Keniisugot eem!

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

Everyone should be worried no matter whether it's "Ring", Tesla or and especially if it's government agency.

[@Praisethesunson]

You said government agency 3 times

[@ericc6820]

isn’t it ironic how he looked you right in the eye and said “we need to have some level of trust in our citizens” while he rolls out a mass surveillance operation that records their cars without them even realizing consenting. Trust is at the fabric of society. It’s a fundamentally human thing. A baby trusts everything. But unfortunately these people will claim they can’t trust anything while simultaneously benefiting from levels of trust within their own individual life’s.

[@myparceltape1169]

If they haven't been involved in setting it up and knowing what they are doing, the government has dug a hole for itself. Are the tech companies providing things free?

[@libvlog2264]

Cold. These people don’t fear GOD. It’s all about the bread

[@MoreCoffeePlease.]

I literally just paused after he had the *damn* *nerve* to say that, in order to search for this comment. The smirk on his face while saying it too. I’m heated. 😠

[@myparceltape1169]

@@MoreCoffeePlease. It is the citizens who must be able to trust their rulers. Not the other way round. He must gain the trust of the citizens or his project is lost.

[@im.empimp]

@@myparceltape1169 "He must gain the trust of the citizens or his project is lost." - The thing is *_that they don't_*, they only need to get the trust of the people with the money to subject us to it.

[@pasda-k4715]

We've been under surveillance in the US. THE LAND OF THE FREE... WHERE EVERYTHING COSTS!

[@orionqc]

The cost of freedom is almost always generational🩸🩸🩸.

[@HiHOLAHolisHello]

@@orionqc LOL "freedom"

[@randystanton1224]

​@@orionqcnow it's worse thanks septuagenarians

[@mattd5681]

Move to a 3rd world country for a year. 🤡

[@purplegoop1247]

@@mattd5681 most 3rd world countries are either under sanctions or have been bombed by the USA, for democracy ofc.

[@magickmarck]

Surveillance is not being "welcomed with open arms" in the US and it's irresponsible to say it is. Nobody wants to or expects to be tracked and surveilled just because they're in a public space.

[@LawrenceWrenn]

Public is public and there is no expectation of privacy in PUBLIC That's why it's called public

[@Ofasia777]

Every indoor space be it public or private is expected to be surveilled with camera if only for safety. Door cameras are an almost direct consumer-government spy ring which has reached sufficient saturation to cover all American cities and suburbs or at least the facing areas. All businesses are expected to be surveilled in and out, as a matter of course, as are all the outside and inside of landmarks and critical infrastructure (which is mostly all infrastructure). Let's not mention the border, or the privacy of "bad people" (which could be anyone). I think this mostly leave us with the public not "welcoming with open arms" surveillance in the middle of forests and bathroom. For now.

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

why though?

[@LawrenceWrenn]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 because it's public, open to anyone

[@animax54]

Y so woke bro

[@rm5228]

The question IS NOT whether or not we should be worried about mass surveillance! The question is HOW do we stop MASS SURVEILLANCE

[@mafcarvalho]

You don't.

[@itsabortive9520]

I don't think it's about stopping it. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Now, we need to worry about regulating it,

[@d-godfather]

stop using electronic devices... the private industry has been surveilling consumers for decades now...

[@pietrojenkins6901]

@@mafcarvalho we just don't want it Chinese style with its social credit and big government calling all shots.

[@mafcarvalho]

@@pietrojenkins6901 that's fair enough.

[@DearMr.IamOffended]

With all the surveillance, why is crime on the rise and not being prosecuted?

[@hackladdy9886]

"What we do is very different from surveillance" "We've always been getting the biographic data for years" "Now we're biometrically confirming that data" So you're surveilling people, then using it to identify them later. But sure, not surveillance, definitely not. Support the EFF.

[@ianasaavedra]

in every app, in every street before mr snow doc

[@TheBenolan]

Let me ask my phone... that's always on me and always listening

[@modestmouse2889]

why are you carrying a phone, grasshopper?

[@anonalpha1190]

Some in government believe the international border extends to inland international airports as well. Let that sink in.

[@GustavoGutierrez27]

Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.

[@TransamMan84]

- Benjamin Franklin

[@CanVultus]

When someone says “trust in the public good” just know that they didn’t pay attention to history class and missed the thousands and thousands of years of public evil.

[@thebadassofthewest6022]

Like how people used to be burned alive for disagreeing.

[@tropistan7735]

Or they are psychopaths who know exactly what they are saying: a line used to massage the smooth brained into compliance. What they're really saying is they trust in the public's stupidity to believe that line.

[@mercedesb2299]

Thank you Vice for giving air time to the people who live at the border. I am in Arizona, and was living on what I thought was going to be peaceful acreage away from the city in the quiet wide open desert 16 miles from the US/Mexico border. It was NOT peaceful or quiet, and no, migrants were not the problem. It is infuriating. Everything this woman shared is 100% true.

[@tonyramirez6282]

After 9/11 we scarified privacy for security and after that it just escalated to another level without any say

[@cornkiller534]

Significantly it was the Patriot Act

[@robertmarley8852]

The tyranny Act lol 🤣😭😭😭

[@MyDadLeftMe3]

Who the hell is “we?” It only took 98 people to make that decision and I don’t think anyone here is one of them

[@PinkPalace-gf8cw]

​@@thegeneral1955good ol' George Dubya was in power when the Patriot Act was implemented, not Obama. But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story

[@princemichael4708]

Julian Assange did say gen z was the last generation to be free..

[@pauobunyon9791]

Gen Z free ? Like a Baby Boomer free ?? I dont think so 😂

[@MrDarkElement]

​@@pauobunyon9791 Rockefeller compulsory education destroyed the Autochthonous culture as we were re-educated by a foreign doctrine of lies and assorted innuendos.

[@brendasmart553]

She talks tough here to advise & alert us, yet has cameras installed without her permission -all over her own property?😳 And they are ALL still there?? 🧐

[@shanmathis2000]

I live in Atlanta and didn’t know any of this. This is mind blowing to me.

[@niedziwedzpolarny7269]

they watch every step u make

[@_robustus_]

Don’t do anything illegal unless you’re rich.

[@rufatmehdiyev-ev2xq]

Let say you over speed on 35 road 38 to avoid collision and that information transmitted to data center and that data went your insurance and you paying 1200 extra because of it. Or you applied to loan and loan company sold it main data center and you getting every day at least 3 calls day” do you need loan?” I can go on on this. But don’t be ignorant. If you can little bit on you business you gone push forward. This is work with every corporation. They don’t care about your and you community. Day gone sell you information to who pay for it.

[@Le_Dislike_Button]

Doing nothing illegal is not enough. Now it's do nothing that might be perceived as "suspicious"

[@Red_Twizzler]

Do everything illegal and expose their illegal methods

[@Red_Twizzler]

@@rufatmehdiyev-ev2xqI hit the gas to avoid an accident in front of a cop. He didn’t care. He wrote me a ticket. $600 for avoiding an accident

[@JaysusEscobar]

@@Red_Twizzler Take your ticket to the court. That surveillance is your chance of not needing to cough up 600 dollars.

[@ragantate3995]

The answer is yes. It’s already happening. You don’t have to have been at an airport for it to happen either.

[@rollingsteady3107]

While the government is watching us, who is watching the government?

[@irobbedyou863]

Russians

[@judykinsman3258]

The oligarchs who are really in charge. They are the contractors the government is funding with our tax dollars.

[@mic_at_nite]

Academics and journalists. And sadly not everyone in these two groups are doing so. The public should also be watching, but we're too busy trying to survive and build our individual careers to adequately (personally) keep watch - exacerbated by the fact that a lot of journalistic and academic sources that can help us stay in the loop are pay-walled for the benefit of the publishers and not the authors.

[@darkprince9064]

China

[@joebyrd1119]

Nobody

[@joybeybeeluv4234]

Lies…….people don’t want to be spied on. Ask people who are free to speak honestly without repercussions…….

[@Amocles]

If you don't like people looking at you then stay at home I have nothing to hide and I appreciate a more efficient society

[@rubberonasphalt]

Never felt more helpless in the world, where all the decisions are made for us behind closed doors, and we have no meaningful way to speak up

[@ОгурецМолоко]

Welcome to techno-feudalism

[@Keniisu]

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

[@Ofasia777]

"Just don't ask about my many slaves or the slave ads in my newspaper." -Benjamin Franklin, probably.

[@urmomsdadscousinsbf]

That quote means the exact opposite of what most people think it means. Franklin was arguing in favor of the stability of society over personal liberty when he said that.

[@Eric-ej3oy]

Was BF a progressive like Woodrow Wilson?

[@tonym6193]

@@urmomsdadscousinsbfyeah nice try fed

[@jonosterman2878]

@@Eric-ej3oy well, he loved hookers, so maybe. But he was also pretty conservative

[@ARCDRAGON22]

Privacy should absolutely be PRIVATE!!

[@MoonQiFumbo]

When you realize that the name Palantir is the crystal ball used by Saruman and Sauron from the Lord of the Rings is appropriated in our real world for use of surveillance and big brother ordeal.

[@MrDarkElement]

Saturn-alia (alien)

[@blacksabbathmatters]

And im sure the company wasnt created by some super nerd that has lotr bedsheets and decided on the name because of that. 😂

[@gypsy5445]

I never have never given the airports, or TSA permission to have my photographic image, they just took it. You have no choice if you want to fly.

[@firefly9838]

Don't fly public. Private or Drive.

[@annadelamor]

You can opt out of taking the image. Step to the side of the camera and say "I'd like to opt out". Most of the TSA folks respond well, only a few are grumpy about it, but it says right there in the fine print we have the right to opt out. I've been doing that since they rolled it out a few years ago

[@tomtom1541]

​@@annadelamoryeah you can, but your passport / drivers licence selfie is already on the computer.

[@sebastiankhan1]

@@annadelamorwait until you run into the wrong one they can make your life miserable. You will be sitting in the airport for hours I’ve been through it.

[@analogueoverdigital929]

You actually do have the choice.

[@Cruiser-tb5zc]

How does it make you feel knowing that the government knows just exactly who clicked on this video and watched it? Yay, freedom! 😀

[@Alex_Chilton]

“Nobody wants big brother” says little brother

[@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841]

Lil sis says otherwise😏

[@O.GGrandMasterOG]

​@@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841 Lil sis needs to go to the kitchen and learn how to make a sandwich and keep her trap shut.🤗

[@VetranoD]

Shouldn't this have been a video / topic of discussion, say...20+ years ago now ?

[@mason96575]

@@VetranoD 20 - 23 years ago we were all preoccupied with giving away as much liberty, privacy, and freedom as possible to secure an illusion of safety

[@magickmarck]

It was, after Snowden leaked all the NSA stuff. Obviously those in power are more concerned with "gathering data" than worrying about the implications of the whole apparatus

[@garolstipock]

@@mason96575 Amen. Dept of Homeland Security was cheered into being with resounding applause... cos... "terrorists". The only word you need to whisper to make hundreds of millions willingly surrender all their rights.

[@VetranoD]

@@mason96575 We love our security theatre here.

[@susanblackley7065]

Do you remember a guy named Snowden? Google him.

[@braesepulveda8805]

"If they're listening right now, whats your message" 15:27 🤣🤣🤣

[@BoxingRestricted]

Why are so many innocent citizens being put on a watchlist/blacklist in handling codes 3 & 4 non investigative subjects and having their lives ruined???

[@metamorphic75]

Looks like America has committed to becoming a total police and surveillance state.

[@maikoah]

This might be the single funniest comment I have ever seen in my life

[@joeldelarosa4351]

5GW, Social Engineering.

[@firefly9838]

The people won't do anything so

[@Xavier-uknonada]

I've been a super criminal for decades and just found out about it 3 years ago. I get followed daily, and every employer is told to fear me and fire me. There are some super crazy people is what I say. T Watching too much crime tv.

[@sitindogmas]

as someone who was convicted as a felon over 20 years ago, any intell bug brother has on you, is an automatic assumption at every encounter and it's usually negative

[@coolboy5428]

That, the state is evil, not to be trusted.

[@THEHOUSEOFSATIO]

Here you go. I'm gonna say this The US is the MOST surveilled, protected and expert in criminology country I've ever known. YET, it is the one with the MOST cases of home-terrorism, crime and insecurity I've ever know as well. What is up with that??? I'm pretty sure it has a lot to do with gun violence and accessibility, organized crime, and, most importantly, culture. OMG guys, it just doesnt make sense. ITS CRAZY!! WHY do I have to fear going to Disneyland???? OMG

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

"It's very different from surveillance" and then she goes on to describe using it for exactly what surveillance is.......

[@Theendofeverything7036]

Noticed cameras popping up everywhere in my town, it happened overnight. I told my husband how all of the sudden these cameras are scattered everywhere in town and he said that he did notice.

[@DeltaOGaming]

Where @?

[@QuintessentialJenesequa-u5o]

​@@DeltaOGamingeverywhere

[@mr.bluenotedoobop]

Everyone worries, yet there’s security cameras in every home, dash cams everywhere and if crime is happening, people pull out the phone camera. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bradical7772]

I live in a small town of nearly 7000 with little to no serious crime. We now have nearly 100 surveillance cameras throughout town. Disgusting!!

[@SSiXaXiS]

There is no expectation of privacy in public. You'd be thankful if those cameras caught something beneficial to you. So stop the fucking act

[@tjrichez4297]

@@SSiXaXiSI see yall didn’t pay attention to this video the whole point is about crimes ❗️

[@Marky-Mark1337]

Every since 9-11 American wasnt the same.

[@MrDarkElement]

Project For A New American Century"...circa; 2000 A.D. - 3000 A. Depopulation

[@dougstanley7662]

Why do you think they dropped the towers?

[@BabsKaz]

The patriot act did this.

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

Repeal the UNpatriot Act!! Defund DC and shrink the ruling beurocrat class!

[@austinballard6815]

And now a whole generation is coming of age that wasn't even born yet when that happened. Few seem to care of even have much knowledge of 9/11.

[@undergod8666]

God have mercy on this revelation life no love no privacy no reparations. 😢❤❤

[@peterliu8562]

People are comfortable with their doorbell cameras capturing strangers' faces and sometimes cars passing by, but are also uncomfortable with their own faces or cars being captured by others.

[@bradhaines3142]

on your property you can do whatever you want. that should be completely legal and understood. public is the issue, feds have no right to record everywhere people go

[@apelike]

@@bradhaines3142 Yes they do... in the same way that you have a right to record in public.

[@adlsfreund]

@@apelike So I have a right to set up thousands of cameras covering every angle of public spaces and the police won't do anything? Are you sure about that?

[@domonator1167]

no one in a single family home is making a database of their front door visitors. there’s a large difference here

[@apelike]

@@domonator1167 But you can... no one is stopping you from grabbing a pen and paper and writing down every car you see that drives infront of your house. Not a thing stopping you.

[@moygonzalez239]

Privacy is no longer a term

[@forrestwhichard2862]

That Peachtree guy is a creep. “But we can track when our neighbors come and go.” “Yeah…”

[@JayFreezy86]

"No one wants Big Brother" I nearly fell off my sofa laughing.

[@Hold_on_now_playa]

Eventually they will shut off your car if you haven’t paid your taxes. Sick world.

[@wdl2499]

​@lostinthedesert-hp4bw you have to look deeper. With mass surveillance every journalist, every human, be it just a person, a rights or freedoms activist or anyone can be put down by corporations or whatever huge enough entity. They could pass whatever laws and take down any opposition

[@thebadassofthewest6022]

Electric cars can be shut off. They can also be shut off with EMPs.

[@bkzach]

I guarantee they'll do it for less, missed your inspection date, didn't update your address on time, no driving privileges.

[@blznft9513]

They'll paul walker you

[@volkov-auf]

Everyone should worry about mass surveillance

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Now even on the local level police are using body cams to document the arrest in case they have to testify in court

[@EbK_KJx17]

Last time i went to the airport they tried to scan me and everything i refused and i will never fly again, rather take the bus or train

[@AdaptableAmerican]

Is there a bud to Europe? 😂

[@redacted629]

Stop treating EVERYONE as "bad people" and "bad thing".

[@RosaResendis]

technically everyone is bad , only God is good . . .

[@carlosa.n5100]

If you are against mass surveillance you have no idea how the real world works. You are sleeping on colossal levels.😂

[@miltonwaddams2564]

@@carlosa.n5100 I see you repeating the statement over and over you are clearly an AI or just brainwashed same thing. People can be against it while also understanding that it is everywhere and it cannot be stopped. Practice thinking more like a human because you are very bad at comments. Edit- human error 😂

[@redacted629]

@@carlosa.n5100 if you like it then you can have it.

[@redacted629]

@@RosaResendis I respect your right to your beliefs

[@investorbettor505]

This is quite literally insane.

[@Vactory]

How is there such a huge discrepancy in the quality of their videos and articles? The videos are top tier.

[@the_Googie]

Theres a reason EU is rolling out data privacy laws that are a pain in the ass for companies and users but ultimately there to stop the worst from the worst. Im german and we only recently got StreetView coverage. It was a big blank spot for a long time. After 2 surveillance states we take our privacy seriously.

[@mason96575]

Little by little, we agreed (as a whole) to give up a little bit more of our liberty, privacy, and overall freedom, for an illusion of safety. Little by little, we agreed to it. And little by little, they asked for more, more, and more. The Patriot Act goes against so, so much of how our Founding Fathers wanted our country to be… but here we are two decades later - and it has become so normalized that I’ve heard those too young to know life before - as in, I’ve heard Gen Z kids literally say and wholeheartedly believe the phrase “well, if I’m not doing anything wrong- or I don’t have anything to hide- what’s the harm? It can help keep us safe!” 🤦‍♂️

[@jesusgonzales1045]

yeah yeah little by little we agree bs I never agreed to that as well as many other Americans I know. We need to stop this surveillance thats foresure. And who taught Gen z kids that? Arent boomers gen xers millennials no different?

[@jonosterman2878]

We didn’t agree, they forced it on us.

[@spicywater123]

15:24 Give this woman the congressional medal of honor

[@kueacybtguicyregfibubkueacybax]

Short answer, yes. They track every avenue of your life, cellular, your isp, your car, at the operating system level, and now a public infrastructure scale.

[@513Canyon]

With your tax money

[@skyh]

DNA

[@akforge]

Research 40 year veteran NSA Officer William Benny, we already live in a Surveillance State. Next step is a Police State.

[@XsoloXela1989]

YOU CAN OPT OUT of the picture at tsa

[@idra-j5y]

Short answer: yes Long answer : YES

[@Febr7]

The dangers of Vance's ties to people like Thiele are grossly underreported.

[@reneefletcher1143]

Elon as well. He goes way back with Thiel when they created PayPal. Wild to see so many trust him when he’s in the same circles. Like the “free speech” platform isn’t just an easier way to focus on who says the wildest things (then ends up on a surveillance list).

[@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841]

Yeah really, the day I heard about the pick my female boss stepped in my cubical type office just to small talk and then I happened to hear about JD, with a slightly louder than normal voice I said "that's BS, out of all the men it had to be him" I quickly realized my mistake when I looked up to see literally everyone looking over at us and also hearing a few people who were totally laughing.

[@lifebydanielsan]

So happy you had them on....i still rewatch and recommend thie show

[@MegaOCER]

just because we dont see it doesn't mean its not already happening

[@mason96575]

Well, I believe we all do see it. And most of us have been acutely aware of it - at the very least, since Snowden opened a lot of our eyes. The problem is complacency and just being jaded about it, overall. For lack of a better phrase - just being lazy about it… (Myself included)

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

Tinfoil hat. If you do not see a camera, it probably doesn't exist. And no you do not have your own government agent watching over you.

[@MoiraWillenov]

In other words... The absence of evidence does not indicate the evidence of absence.

[@davidnelson5381]

You're a little late to the party on this topic. Once red-light cameras became acceptable early this century, the flood gates disappeared. Now, besides cameras on street corners, along highways, and on government and/or healthcare buildings, nearly every person has a camera that is susceptible to having recordings used when a crime occurs in order to prosecute, for example. Society has fueled the advancement of the police state against itself.

[@Coffee.9]

and yet crimes still happen and nothing is done. It's awful. It's used to abuse more than to protect. I will die on that statement. Example, my car was set on fire, my friends car after giving me a ride was set on fire... I truly believe by the same people... NOTHING was done to help either of us who were victims of that crime. They had footage of both events. Both times the police said nothing could be done. Absolute BS.

[@jonosterman2878]

@@Coffee.9 wrong, crime has steady gone down along side the introduction of security technology like cctv. Rates of solving violent crimes have gone up. Google is free, ya dingus. Use it next time.

[@jonosterman2878]

@@Coffee.9 cute anecdote btw

[@rebelroar78]

It wasn’t the red light cameras. It was the PATRIOT act.

[@TheJuraev]

That’s great, it’s good for safety of the country ❤

[@thesecondvariety2981]

I just don’t want the government to know every little move I make.

[@pacosanchez7216]

every breath you take every move you make I'll be watchin you

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

You really are not special enough for the government to know your every move.

[@elaztec.aztecca]

They know when you’re coming AND going so they can entirely breach your homes and personal lives at will with nobody to stop them from that access.

[@Arjay.M88]

not all law enforcement have the best intentions. so saying "oh this is only for law enforcement, so dont worry!!" is not always the best of feelings. I am all for making things safer but I am not for watching anyone without cause.

[@BabsKaz]

Occifer safety 🙄

[@tdotvy4579]

Look here’s an idea. Let’s have those self driving cars but also have someone who can control it remotely at the same time. Similar to how the army do with drones. We can have taxi drivers or Uber drivers who work from the comfort of their home or like a hub where people can go clock in or volunteer. We can do this with 18 wheelers too. When a driver runs out of hours or reaches another jurisdiction, the load can be passed on to another remote driver will to take the load. Rest areas can still be utilized. Everyone can go home at the end of the night. New job market for technicians will be in need. Also, another feature I would like is linking cars. Like if someone’s going to the same place as you or same area, you can request to link to their car and it will follow in sync like a train until your exit comes up or you want to break off. This will only apply to highways and freeways. You can still choose to run cars manually if you wanted to as well. This would revolutionize the logistics world. I wish I was smart enough to build something like this but Elon could handle it 😂

[@g2k222]

They don’t wipe their files when they’re done, they store them in glacial storage. Even *this* message will never really be deleted.

[@pacosanchez7216]

Big ego don't you think?

[@mahmoudpappatillahmoud6503]

And? Dont do anything bad and you're fine. You cant even get rid of it. If the people who claim to be against this, overthrew the government tomorrow, they too would use mass surveillance to keep track of their opponents. Get used to it.

[@hadenwesley6548]

I lived in China a few years ago and am SHOCKED at the speed of adopted identical technologies. IDENTICAL TO CHINA. Y'all just don't understand how fast this is moving. I also worked in tech deals reading End User License Agreements and Privacy Policies and again, people just say "oh well" and move on. This is ONLY getting worse with that attitude!

[@SilkieRoo]

I couldn't help but laugh at, "So like... I could see my neighbors coming and going..." dramatic music Yeah... Like you already can with your own eyes... Lol

[@samueljackson315]

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

[@mason96575]

Fredrich Nietsczhe really had some phenomenal quotes like that.

[@BarrGC]

​@@mason96575 Benjamin Franklin actually...

[@mason96575]

@@BarrGC oh, you misunderstood! I didn’t claim Nietsczhe said that extremely popular and well-known Benjamin Franklin quote. Did not claim that at all. I merely said he has some phenomenal quotes *like* that.

[@analogueoverdigital929]

We all did when we bought smartphones..

[@mason96575]

@@BarrGC admittedly, I was bored… so I cast that out as intentionally vague bait