The Legend of Zelda Theory: Snowpeak Ruins

[@ironsightsmcgillycudy7753]

I've always loved the Snowpeak ruins and I've always wanted to know what would lie beyond them. I know every Zelda game stands on it's own with only a select few having direct sequels, but I really wish that they would go back to Twilight Princess and expand on that region more.

[@VortexxyGaming]

They might, Zelda Wii U has a region which (on the map at least) looks like it could be Snowpeak.

[@ironsightsmcgillycudy7753]

***** Seriously? Vortexxy, please, don't add any more fuel to the Hype Train. I'm pretty sure its already going off the rails and this isn't going to help

[@VortexxyGaming]

IronSights McGillycudy I don't want you to derail ;p, but check out Commonwealth realm, he has made quite a lot of Wii U speculation videos, Snowpeak included!

[@ironsightsmcgillycudy7753]

***** Thanks, will do and keep up the great vids

[@officernasty467]

Frr it was very cool asf

[@bennyswi3906]

I always thought the Snowpeak Ruins were the remains of Links family from before Ocarina of Time. Ocarina touches briefly on the fact that the original Link was from a wealthy family who was part of the Civil War, but his father was probably killed in battle and with their home fortress under siege, his mother escaped with baby Link to the Forbidden Forest where he is then raised by the Great Deku Tree.

[@grimmfate8078]

K Laverdiere Ocarina of Time, book one. It was said that Link's father was a knight, well respected by the Royal Family. He had served in the army during the Hylian Civil War and was struck down in battle. Link's mother fled with her child despite being wounded. So this could possibly have belonged to Link's family...Wow...freaky.

[@Ghostly8895]

The relationship with the Gerudos was ROCKY at best HA! good one. 👌

[@officernasty467]

Why is this place so slept on i freaking loved the hell outta snow peak and arbiturs grounds ! GREAT VID SERIOUSLY THANKS

[@JaredtheRabbit]

N O T A K E M I R R O R

[@officernasty467]

XD bet

[@echo1eyesonly13]

I never got to play Twilight Princess, but VortexxyGaming's videos make me want to so much.

[@Kabbaway]

I’ve only played up to Goron Mines, I’ll have to finish it one day

[@dekubutler1702]

YESSS! FINALLY! This is the one ive been waiting for. Once again, great job on the new video. Love it

[@stahrmie]

This was a phenomenal theory! Definitely something to think about! I love listening to your ideas! You have a wonderful mind Vortex!

[@dogethemlgmaster5767]

Still, this channel deserves WAY more attention than it's already getting. Excellent video! Instant 10/10.

[@VortexxyGaming]

If you'd like to vote on the topic for the next theory, there's a poll up on my google+ :)

[@nmmeswey3584]

uhm, link?

[@VortexxyGaming]

You can find it by hovering over my name and pressing the Google + icon or going to my about page and clicking on it there. I'll make a direct link later. I'm supposed to be sleeping atm :D (1:22 am on a workday woops).

[@nmmeswey3584]

***** shining light into your eyes late at night will make your brain think its daytime and youll have a harder time sleeping, its only 4:40 pm here

[@Exdorme]

Great theory :)

[@dkwking]

Can u put a link in the comments I have to use my fone to watch KZbin and I love all ur videos please don't stop

[@thomasmedina5627]

Ashei was easily the most interesting new character introduced in Twilight Princess for me. All the bits and pieces totally hinted towards your theory! Thanks for fleshing it out!~

[@TheGrandRevo]

The amount of lore in Zelda is ridiculous! Love the vid

[@TalikThealchemist]

Great video! The canons posted throughout the ruins are also a good indication that it was once a fortress. Regular mansions wouldn’t have defenses erected like that

[@null5798]

I really appreciate all your speculations and theories. They really put the series into greater perspective for me. Keep up the amazing work! and Lol, ignore all the fedora creeps.

[@mahoucore]

Nice theory Vortex I really never got Snowpeak Ruins because it was an abandoned mansion in the middle of a frozen wasteland, and seemed really out of place in the sense of Twilight Princess as a whole. You do a nice job covering all that. I can't even think of another thing to theorize on right now so just do whatever comes to you.

[@Majoranator]

Amazing vid :)! A lot of research has gone into this and I think it's certain that Snowpeak was once a fortress built during the war against the gerudo and that Ashei definitely does have a connection to the ruins.

[@5-Volt]

OMG Ashei's bangs drive me crazy... They're so stupid looking.. Lol. Anyway Great theorizing! The Snowpeak region is an interesting one especially considering the snowy region is only really showed in TP.

[@VortexxyGaming]

Dortr Lucas I know what you mean. Everytime she moves her head those bangs clip right through her face :D

[@zacharoninoodle]

I would love to see the mansion refurbished by some player.

[@officernasty467]

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[@nathanabel8169]

That was pretty good and makes sense I never did understand snowpeaks's relevance over all over my many twilight princes playthroughs

[@Nervete]

I would never have thought to make these connections, great video!

[@GaiaLegend]

Heya!. Finally my favorite theory video, as this isn't explained so well by Nitendo. May I tell my theory of this place?. I think your theory about all of this is true, but I want to add something to it. The Yeti's are the parents of Ashlei!. She wears the same clothing and even a small yeti head. What if someone cursed her parents of something but she got away?. The paintings clearly shows us a very big and angry man, looking like an old general or some sort. He also seems to hold a scepter in his hand. He was probably the owner of the mansion and he was turned into a yeti because of the curse. Nothing, not even Ashlei explains about her parents whereabouts. Isn't it strange that she wears the yeti helmet?. She got to know about the yeti's. No doubt it's a connection.

[@fledermausmann27]

Great analysis! Here's an additional thought: maybe the fortress simply belonged to some self-proclaimed nobility before the Hyrulean Civil War. Because we know that Hyrule was not a unified kingdom before that war, there could have been several "kings" even among Hylians. Then, during the Civil War, the people of the mountain kingdom gave up their 'nobility' to instead become subject to the King of Hyrule. People may have still lived there for some time, but eventually they grew old and/or migrated closer to Hyrule Castle, leaving their old home/fortress abandoned.

[@robbmang]

Love all your videos :) always looking foward to seeing if you have uploaded another;

[@Shadowjerio496]

your videos make the world of Zelda even more interesting :) good job!

[@dogethemlgmaster5767]

Great video! You get better and better each time.

[@ericblack92]

snowpeak was my favorite area, cozy isolated and luxurious at one time

[@lacius]

Jesus!!! These theories... So good... Need more!!! Must... Subscribe... No seriously though, only 5000 subs? Damn, this channel deserves way more than that. Hope my subscription helps in one way or another.

[@VortexxyGaming]

Lacius GE It's going pretty fast actually ^^ half a year ago I was at a 100 ^^

[@RaisonDeProductions]

Another great Theory Video You pointed out a lot of things that I never noticed like the coat of arms or the fact that Ashia`s father had a falling out with the Hyrule soldiers . Keep up the awesome work

[@Chaos89P]

I always saw the Snowpeak Ruins as a mansion, not an abandoned fortress. The fortress part *does* make a lot of sense, however, since there are cannons _everywhere._

[@rebeccasimpson-wallack8228]

Do you think the snowpeak ruins was once the knight academy from skyward sword? Just curious due to the armory and library.

[@VortexxyGaming]

Rebecca Simpson-Wallack I believe Skyloft is still in the sky during Twilight Princess, and eventually turned into the City in the Sky seen in that game as well.

[@rebeccasimpson-wallack8228]

***** what would also be an interesting theory is that maybe it's the skulltula house. It is only in the child link timeline (majoras mask) where the side quest of skulltulas is present. So maybe in ocarina of time when link goes back to childhood, because he went back to the time when they were cursed, they weren't saved. So they asked link to save them in majoras mask. And he does. When the curse is broken the repair and build up their mansion, but the climate change makes them abandon their home.

[@rebeccasimpson-wallack8228]

***** and what is ashei is a descendant of the skulltula family. Her family was drafted into the war and something happed-something where the skulltula family tried to do something brave and their fellow soldiers didn't back them up, and her family ended up dying. That would explain her bitterness towards hylian warriors and why she would flee to the snowy mountains, because she didn't trust the hylians anymore. Maybe she rebelled in some way and was banished to her old home

[@rebeccasimpson-wallack8228]

***** and would explain why the skulltula family is no longer present in twilight princess

[@rebeccasimpson-wallack8228]

***** maybe the house skulltula, fearing being found again after the curse was broken in majoras mask, and fearing execution for their family's deeds in war, begged the zoras to take them in. At first, they refused due to the skulltulas reputation, but the family offered them copious amounts of money and the zora accepted their offer. They built up their mansion near zoras river, on top of a mountain we cannot access/ see in ocarina of time- and when the climate changed, the skulltula family fled that mansion too, but were recognized years later and were facing execution by the royal family (trouble with superiors) Instead they were banished from hyrule and went back to the only place they were ever safely hiding, but by the point, the mountain had been inhabited by yetis and many skulltula died on the journey back

[@meditautomatic]

I wish they would have included Ashei in Hyrule Warriors! Makes way more sense than Agatha the bug girl... Great vid Vortexx! This was one theory that I really enjoyed since I found Ashei's character so interesting!

[@Playswithsquirrels311]

wonder if this place had some sort of Connection with "The Forest Temple" In Ocarina of Time. Think about it, although yes it's given the name "Temple" it's different from all other's in the adult half of the game. All others had a visible Diety Shadow was Raven, Water was a Serpent, Fire was Totem poles, and Spirit was Sand Goddess. The Forest Lacked one. Similar to the Snowpeak Ruins too it seems like a Large Mansion with no Inhabitants. Although you could probably argue the Poe sisters were ghosts of women who once owned it.

[@LuigiGodzillaGirl]

I don't normally like ice stages, but Snowpeak Ruins is one of my favorite levels in TP because of the mysteries surrounding the building. You almost feel like an urban explorer as Link walks down the decaying halls, absorbing its haunting beauty. It makes me want to learn about the history behind the fortress and who the people running it were. The clues are vague at best. There are no written records or lore in the level for Link to read, and that coat of arms doesn't resemble any clan or family in or around Hyrule that we are aware of yet.

[@dekubutler1702]

i keep re-watching your videos. cant wait for the new one

[@heysup8889]

awesome stuff, very glad i found this channel !

[@Lenupet]

Awesome theory! I love Ashei and I'm always happy when I can learn more about her! :)

[@Lenupet]

I can't wait for new videos! Your videos are awesome! :)

[@apachekidd1992]

great video! I'm always looking forward to your videos! :)

[@steveverybadass2925]

Thank you vortex you are awesome and I am going to do Zelda theorys to you are truly a great youtuber

[@crowroryc.8753]

I think Ashei could still be from Snowpeak, because "It's unlike any mountain I've ever known" is like her getting nostalgia over it, like it was better with any places she's encountered since. That, and with the weathering on the top of the mountain, the whole place could've deteriorated quickly.

[@TalentHouseAd]

Great video! Answered my questions, and gave me a satisfactory answer! Good job!

[@smsmx30rocky]

I just want to thank you for all these interesting information wish you all the best and succeed...the legend of zelda is An ancient series that we all loved it

[@Bad616]

Been waiting for your next video! another great video now i wait for the next

[@kdp13]

I just thought Snowpeak ruins mansion was a safehouse for the Hyrulean Royal Family during wartime where they would also take guards and knights and let them use the facility to continue to hone their skills and protect the family

[@thedevilsedibles3494]

One of my favorite temples in Zelda history. Nice video. I always thought it as Ashei's original home. I missed some key dialogue apparently.

[@lunavarion]

That's a nice theory. It's easy for me to forget the deep history embedded in the Zelda games. I wonder if Miyamoto created an in-depth history of the Zelda cosmology and is using that as material to make his games richer. Somehow with all the games and franchises he's responsible for, I doubt he'd put that much forethought into each game (even though I don't believe the Mario series has that much depth to it and seems to be made up as the games progress). If that is indeed what he did, maybe he did it early on. There seems to be a fair amount of depth involved (upon second thinking) as there are alternate timelines for this one franchise. Maybe from now on, whenever I play the Zelda games I should make an effort to pay more attention to all the details and not treat them as mere meaningless background art. Thanks for giving me a new way to look at these games and games in general.

[@superstone13]

@vortexxygaming not sure if you'll see this since the videos a little old but the crest that's all over the mansion in snow peak, I found it somewhere else also. Replaying T.P. And in the beginning when midna takes you to meat zelda as a wolf, the same winged crest with crossing rapiers is above the fire place in her chamber. Could imply the mansion belonged to the royal family or was for someone who served them. Also great video.

[@VortexxyGaming]

+superstone13 Someone did mention to me that it could be found in the castle now, but didn't mention where. So if it's in Zelda's personal chambers...that could indeed tie the royal family to snowpeak :) thanks for the heads up!

[@moonyarwick8222]

Snowpeak Ruins is my absolute favorite dungeon in the Zelda universe! :)

[@SirThopas3]

One possible explanation for Snowpeak's snowy landscape could be the delay of Death Mountain's eruption. Death Mountain erupts in Ocarina of Time in the Adult and Hero Defeated Timelines, but not in the Child Timeline where Twilight Princess takes place. Instead, Death Mountain could have had a delayed - and much larger, devastating - eruption in the Child Timeline resulting in large amounts of ash getting pumped into the atmosphere and creating a mini ice age, like the Krakatau eruption in Indonesia that triggered the Little Ice Age during the medieval period.

[@Link-jl6ep]

You should totally do a item theory about the ocarina of time! That would be sooo cool

[@bonjanglevash]

The mansion was made by Impa to train Knights. One knight was Asheis father.

[@SOAHCSOAHCSOAHC]

I like this theory! Snowpeak interests me so much. I feel like it gives a ton of life to the Zelda world to have a place with so much hidden history obviously attached to it. One thing I'd like to point out is that Twilight Princess falls on the child timeline, where Zora's Fountain never froze over due to evil infiltrating the water temple. Still, that doesn't mean the climate couldn't have changed in a more natural manner.

[@cassiopupin3412]

Great job! I love your videos! Can't wait to see the next one :D

[@justarandomguyontheinterne681]

So... i just watched 3 of your videos, and you now have a new subscriber lol.

[@Link-jl6ep]

Man you have great vids, maybe you can do a video on Clocktown or something but other than that thanks for the new vids.

[@hplatapus5380]

It might also be the forest temple from ocarina because the curse spread even further and that the ice cavern is fairly close to it

[@BellalunaMcKenzie]

+H Platapus Nicely caught. It is also my thought.

[@MrZangetsu468]

Can't the crest with the rapiers just be the fact that like Ordona, Snowpeak may skim the outer cusp of Hyrule. It's probably just a safehold for neighbouring Royals, just like the Northern Castle in AOL was a safehold for Sleeping Zelda.

[@EighTy-yv4jw]

You can actually see the same crest that appears everywhere in hyrule castle, right when you leave zeldas room for the first time

[@nintendoeater93]

keep doing those ! your doing a excellent work!

[@giatsu4229]

Instant subscribed, so interesting theories *~*

[@Crism-y1m]

saying the mountain is "Unlike any other mountains she's seen" doesn't mean she doesn't know the mountain, it means that perticular mountain is unlike the other mountains, as in it's different then the other mountains

[@enzochinea9046]

awesome video! keep up with the good work.

[@TD0150]

I can't wait to see this beautiful dungeon in Twilight Princess HD!

[@Cloud354]

one theory about this seen and you describe the theory partially. that it was once the headquarters of a band of knights establish by impa at the request of the hyrulian royal family during the hylian-gerudo war.

[@crystalchampion9617]

I think snowpeak ruins is what the nighting academy in skyward sword looked like before the events of that game

[@mitchellmoonheart8462]

Snowpeak to me was the least memorable dungeon, and I think that was because of the lack of backstory and history of it, because of it's mysterious and desolate environment. This brings a lot of light into it's history, so thanks a bunch for the video! It's a good theory, I hope Nintendo or others will follow up on it :)

[@ivan22519]

Awesome videoo, we are gonna know more about this place when zelda wii u comes out :D

[@killerkitsune5425]

what everyone misses when mentioning ghe old map to the newnis the presence of the old temple of time and the castle town in the scared grove oot's map is basically all in the faron province now

[@renebto1]

Awesome video, great theory, nice voice!

[@IvoryMelodies86]

Your theory videos are great. Subbing.

[@MitchBurns]

Very nice. Keep up the good work.

[@ZeldaMasterJohn]

Awesome theory totally need to do some that I have been pondering about for a while now if intrested i would like to do a podcast with a few people possibly just let me know I understand if your too busy :) thanks for the vid !

[@daphnesnohansenhyrule145]

Your videos are amazing!!!

[@IcyGamesDumb]

Love the echo effect!

[@VortexxyGaming]

That's actually caused by a lack of furniture in my room lol

[@IcyGamesDumb]

lol

[@rhysplaysvirtual]

You've probably heard this already, since this video is from a year ago =P But there's actually a portrait of Rutela in the mansion. I can't remember exactly where, but I made note of it when I saw it. I think it's somewhere near the bomb spot on the floor.

[@quasargaming8840]

these are very interesting. good job

[@Philosonista]

My initial reaction at seeing the crest was pirates! Of course, as a reference to Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass, this entirely screws up the timeline you proposed and what I assume many others have proposed as the timeline.

[@DatoxicfireMC]

Great video ! :D

[@ender7278]

Zora's Fountain is on the other end of the map from Snowpeak. They can't be one and the same.

[@Aristocratic13]

Great theory by the way

[@countcuckoo2650]

A great theory *****, just as all your other ones. I love them! Just like to add that the snowpeak ruins seem really similiar to the forest temple in OoT... both being a mansion/fortress where noble royal people have lived. I think that both must have been places for the lords or duthces of the royal family, who live there taking care of for the outer sections of the hylian kingdom. They could have possibly even been leaders of a different race or tribe who vowed their allegiance to the royal family. I think there could have been many of these kind of places all around Hyrule. As to why they are abandoned... well might have been because of the Hyrulean civil war. Yeah, just wanted to point that out. :D

[@crystalchampion9617]

If I was yeti I would be scared all those monsters living my house

[@hiokiryuuhei4714]

There is a little problem about the armors : the gauntlets have only 4 fingers... I dont think they are designed for humans, look at 2:50

[@shade5348]

the hero of twilight, professional exorcist

[@TheSkyrimfreak]

Nice theory!

[@frz3rbRnotaku1]

I thought of something, since you said that SnowPeak was Zora's fountain frozen. I tried to compare the OOT Map of Hyrule Field and the TP map of Hyrule field, it looks like Gerudo Valley(Desert in TP), Kakariko Village, and maybe Hyrule castle were in similar places, So I would guess Kokori Forest was somewhere to the right above Gerudo Desert in TP even if the map shows no land there, even if the maps a little larger then in OOT. And since Link lives in Ordin Village in TP, I think he was born in Ordin but when the hyrulian War started maybe they moved him to Kokiri village to protect him??

[@kcole2]

The swords used by regular Julian soldiers actually are much closer to arming swords than longswords, you can look up some historical photos if you like.

[@walnut2446]

3:05 Coliseum from like Botw

[@matthewsadlier647]

When I first played twilight Princess, I thought Ashei was pretty hot.

[@LukieDukieNL]

I love this dungeon. It reminds me of Luigi's Mansion :-)

[@ejaywillie]

Just finished Wind Waker HD. Hopefully you get around of doing some theories on it.

[@Insanonaga]

I'm wondering if the mansion was created first, and then the fortress around it, in order to protect the inhabitants from the monsters within. Perhaps the large armory, cannons, etc. were created to combat the ethereal chilfos and freezites? There is evidence of some sort of skirmish happening (the way the place looks doesn't look like natural decay, more like battle damage), Which is further evidenced by these creatures' existence within the temple. I theorize that perhaps the place was created as a sort of safe haven to be used by the zora/hylian royalty, as a sort of "bomb shelter", in case their homes were attacked. Because of the constant attacks on the caretakers, they eventually gave up and left the place to rot, which is why neither side used it when they were attacked by twilit forces. It is unknown how long the mirror shard was there, so perhaps the shard was the inciting event of the snow? When you remove it, the blizzard clears quite a bit, so it would make sense if that were the case.

[@VortexxyGaming]

The mirror piece had been there only recently, as Zant was the one to break it. According to Ashei the shard made the region colder than usual, so it was a snowy mountain already.

[@Insanonaga]

***** Zant was the one to break it, yes. However, 2 things remain unknown. 1.) The twilii's lifespan, 2.) how long ago ganon's execution attempt was. We do know that ganon's execution attempt was after he had been defeated by link in OOT, and that was supposedly long ago. So by being banished to the twilight realm, he could have met what was a young zant, who broke the mirror under ganon's command long ago. This could have lead the mirror shard to be left there when the mansion was in good health, and the incited the aforementioned blizzardous creatures' coming into the area, thus leaving the place to be destroyed sometime after MM's timeline, yet before TP's.

[@VortexxyGaming]

Insanonaga But Midna and Zant only went into the World of Light a few weeks, maybe months prior to TP. Zant couldn't have broken the mirror before that.

[@franciscovincent7035]

Hey :) Can you do a Theory about Tingle? His story, what is it, how can there be a tingle plushie in SS, and most important, how is he so important in spin-offs without having any big role in the series?

[@VortexxyGaming]

Ill add it to the list :)

[@SailorGreenTea]

2:14, does it look like the goddess of time image from Majora's mask?

[@samuelbedsole5089]

Could it also be possible that Snowpeak was some manner of outpost for a country other than Hyrule or the Gerudo tribes? Perhaps it either belongd to the nation of Holodrum, Labrynna, or some third unknown power beyond the borders of Hyrule who wanted to keep the powers of Hyrule and the Gerudo in check and prevent either from using their territory to attack each other. Perhaps Ashei's family is a decendant from these other nations who settled in Hyrule after the war was over.

[@timshelton6076]

in my opinion, it may have been an hylian fort that they constructed as a place for an ambassador to go and make peace with the gorons of long past, (if you remember in Majoras Mask ((some dont think this is a valid source because link was probably dead but it may have been "termina" was the origanal hyrule but was lost to the ages and later became hyrule, dun kill me its just a possibility)) the gorons didnt live in a super heated enviroment but in a snowy biome) mybe they left to find warmer, safer places and ended up on death mountain, but the suits of armor in the manor look suited for a goron. mybe the hyrulians hired some gorons to watch the place as gaurds and eventually they thought it wasnt worth it so they abandond it... :3

[@ChessdumyTV]

Interesting theory. I personally don't believe that link ever died in Termina. So, I think this might actually be a pretty valid theory. The thing about the fort being a Hylian fort is, Hylians and users of the Snowpeak Ruins had different equipment and armor/weapons; essentially piercing weapons vs slashing weapons. Talking Termina: Hmm.. well, termina is supposed to be like a different although parallel world from Hyrule, so unless the gorons are creatures Native to Termina who somehow travelled to Hyrule throughout history to seek better shelter, I don't think having the gorons living in the snow and ending up on Death mountain is the case. That is an interesting thought, though. Talking Snowpeak Armor and Gear: Hmm, the armor seem to suit the gorons, I agree. That is a pretty intriguing thought. Sorry if anything i'm saying doesn't make sense. I left this message in a hurry.

[@timshelton6076]

ouo no it made sense, thank you for the corrections!

[@ChessdumyTV]

Armin Kirigame Aha! Thanks for the feedback.

[@boy2057]

Hey! I do not have the game myself, but I heard that the TPHD has the murals retextured on snow peak. maybe something to look into? @ +VortexxyGaming

[@Omegasmash]

this is a interesting theory. if Ashei is potentially a decedent of a clan who ruined over snow peak long ago, does anyone think that the clan may have some relation to ordana. mostly saying this since Ashei seemed to be round eared, must of the ordonians are round ear, but during ocarina of time there were no round ear people living in hyrules borders. maybe Ordana is what's left of the people after they migrated south to be refugees in hyrule or something.

[@happyoblap]

Vortex!, amazing!

[@vamps1233211]

What if it belongs to that rich family in OOT? You know the one that got greedy and became cursed.