What happens with Heirlooms in Cataclysm Classic?

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[@niclasschffer5653]

So we can already use it tomorrow in outland and northrend correct? cause those does not change for cataclysm right?

[@newgrower08]

whats up man i see you. keep up the content

[@crewdawg16]

They’ll leave all the heirlooms in. They are continuously trying to make the leveling faster so this makes sense.

[@MrHydra12]

Yeah and the fact the UI and tooltips are in tact means someone actually had to put it there, ie not just a bug

[@LiterallyAnythingg]

It’s a good idea because you wanna grind them and people who have can own in bgs which is the true cata experience. The low amount of people playing tho makes me think they should remove them. But idk 🤷

[@KH-id2hr]

you know whats not clear cut? whats going on with Transmog, I have some account stuff in beta on my one toon, Archeus available on a Horde Paladin? I have mog items that I deleted/DEd years ago.

[@rookie28604]

but how much justice do you earn compared to emblems? what is the time spent to earn an heirloom between justice points and triumph badges?

[@pcxPOT]

How are you doing your cinematics and smooth camera pans? Looks nice

[@TOXINZ2]

Did they just update that this last Tuesday on the BETA converting emblems to justice points? Because I logged on, on Monday (2 days ago now) and still noticed my frost badges on my character I copied over from live like a month ago. I made sure to check on that, that day.

[@Noirtheone]

@scotte did i get this right 4000 JPoints are ~ 346 emblem of frost/triumph . so all else above shoudl be emblems of conquest for max goldprofit?

[@Scottejaye]

yea mate the rest should convert to gold, they did it a bit different back in original cata they allowed the cap to just be a "soft cap" so you could actually go as high on JP as you want in pre patch but you wouldn't gain any more over 4k but then when cata launched the hard cap of 4k was implemented and the rest was either lost or converted to gold, i cant remember which way the excess went but this time around it looks like a flat gold amount over 4k, sorry for the long explanation lol

[@stefanradu4550]

Do the heirlooms from Classic Wrath that are at the moment (before pre-patch) at lvl 80, will they level to 85 or stay the same (80) when Cata classic is out?

[@Xenphier]

I said this to my guildies because I remember it being expensive and because I wanted to level a alt during Cata.

[@nos7201]

im at 0:53 and i think we will see for all armor types Head and Legs also getting 1h Sword and Shield for Tanks like Warriors and Paladins also new Addition bc of the Tanks Shoulder and Chest for Tanks. Not Rly a Heirloom but the Tabard mention to send them around if you leveling an alt to get the Guild rep up.

[@tanksta7390]

Does the heirloom change apply for stone keeper shard heirlooms!?

[@albeshino8875]

loved how u mentioned the novels in their socials

[@vampireweregoat]

Thank you for this video. I'll buy my remaining heirlooms right now

[@bramhaze]

@Scottejaye question. If you get to the guild reputation of the right level to get the heirloom, can you then add it to your collection so that your other characters can also use it? Or can you only use it on the character that has that guild reputation?

[@84witte]

You need guild rep to buy them. Once bought you can mail them to a fresh lvl 1 without problems

[@jonathanmorris2283]

@@84witteyou can just grab them from the heirloom tab -_-

[@Xai1337-mu1zj]

I don't remember what expansion it was but at some point you use archeology to get heirs and upgrade them

[@johnlaflamme3524]

From what I remember it was like 0966 said, legs, helm, and cloak

[@Notpoop906]

where would i find my heirlooms from WoTLK classic? They're not in my collection panel... I 100% had Heirlooms that I purchased from the vendors in Dalaran but I can't find them on any of my characters since the release of Cata pre-patch.

[@KissimeeFL]

Me too! Have you figured it out yet?

[@JohannesWOW]

Big note, you can't buy chest heirloom with honor. So, get chest with Justice, and shoulder with honor

[@Asubatsu]

Glad I spent mine beforehand. Hadnt even seen this video yet.

[@renunit1503]

Will the lvl 80 heirlooms still give xp if you are over lvl 80 using them for Cata?

[@DrGorg-mo3uf]

No they are from 1-80

[@brandonkruse6412]

Not in Cataclysm. They stop giving XP at 80 and aren’t upgradable until MoP.

[@dezbuldozer]

Hi all. Any1 knows what will happen yo Defiler's Scourgestones in cata?

[@antiretail77]

Hey SJ, I got a question.. is buying the BOA helm and shoulder enchants still the only way to send money cross server and faction?

[@brandonkruse6412]

You can always use the Neutral AH to send money crossfaction.

[@antiretail77]

@@brandonkruse6412 That requires a separate account or having a friend buy help, right?

[@antiretail77]

@@brandonkruse6412 and as far as cross server those enchants will be the best way now and into cata?

[@kendyangi5846]

What if we have more than 346 triump+frost? If we keep them do they be wasted? Should we convert them to lower grades?

[@trynnicus]

any excess get turned to gold no point in converting them. if you can use them to buy something I'd suggest that

[@vh9129]

where can you buy heirlooms for honor?

[@larsmaa1337]

Is it possible to buy the heirlooms for honor right now? I can't find where. I only see them for stone keepers's shards.

[@brandonkruse6412]

Not until Cata

[@michaelwilliamseparovich505]

legs and helm, and gendry in undercity to upgrade them for 500g? i never played during mop either. i quit before firelands dropped... so...

[@Mehanlow]

How is truegold transmute learned in cata? Just from the trainer?

[@Frey_64]

need to know too !! xd

[@saag3n]

Alchemy trainer for 25 gold

[@oosterbosch20]

wasnt this the leg and head through the guild vendor or smt. or did that came later?

[@brandonkruse6412]

First patch of MoP from a guild achievement

[@Therix11487]

Is there going to be a fresh cata server?

[@PCheesybreaDS]

Does this mean we can get 80-85 looms in prepatch? Assuming we dont get guild levels, only thing blocking you would be the rep right? Would be nice to get that extra 15-20% whatever the 2 new slots will give :D

[@Scottejaye]

Yep, if we can get guild rep in the pre patch that will be my number 1 focus to be levelling with looms to 85

[@brandonkruse6412]

Is this a new change? Cataclysm heirlooms stopped at 80. It wasn’t until MoP that they could be upgraded to 85 with an additional consumable.

[@idliketorant9147]

cata was cape helm addition I believe

[@zachvanetten]

11.58 emblems is the transfer rate, but the rate you earn justice points at 85 inst equivalent to rate you earn justice emblems at 80 in wotlk. Comparing the emblem cost in wotlk to point cost in cata only works if you don't plan on leveling to 85. For example in wotlk 1 boss drops 1 emblem, but in cata you get 50 justice per boss.

[@Scottejaye]

Thats not really relevant for the pre patch though where you are getting 16 per boss or 24 for a raid boss. Its absolutely more beneficial and quicker to use emblems now that JP later.

[@kjaesp]

@@Scottejaye true for prepatch but once you have JP rewards that you want in cata the cost is about equal no?

[@Terudy529]

currently in pre-patch all heirlooms are capped at 80 don't think they will make them to 85 till later in cata or people would use them to super lvl 80--85

[@Fauxghost]

I can’t wait to spend my dmf tickets on recolored vanilla dungeon set gear

[@nawtmyrealnamelol]

Did anybody else randomly get their heirlooms deleted from wrath? 9 items stayed but for some reason a warrior sword and my intel trinket BoAs vanished

[@jacehusted1465]

Finally had the time lost proto drake spawn while i watched this.. confirmed: youre good luck

[@makitahq]

nice gratz

[@unparall]

Could you get us an info of random pug 25m raid? I think this content was added in cataclysm

[@dennispyxen7873]

If you are talking about raiding with noobs (LFR system) you’ll have to wait until Dragon Soul as it was added in that patch.

[@unparall]

@dennispyxen7873 You got the point! Between heroic 5m dungeon and normal 10m/25m raid. Very easy one. Curious Blizzard made new Phase1 and 2 raid for that or not lol

[@christianhayes777]

I got a heirloom ring but I forgot how it was the strength ring

[@benjames3604]

is there a penalty in cata, if say you're a boomy wearing cloth heirlooms?

[@wowaddict617]

If I dont have a Guild I can never get those looms? Can I go in a gulld get them and quit?

[@Orly90]

You have to get a certain rep with the guild unless they change that

[@sneakyduck7062]

Correct me if im wrong but I think the only way to get PVP hierlooms currently is through the stonkeeper shards. But please let me know if im wrong because I want to buy those with honor if possible before pre-patch.

[@Azot333]

PvP heirlooms can be purchased with honor currently in stormwind in the honor hall

[@JoshuaCyr]

@@Azot333 feeling dumb, I do not see any such vendor in sw. we sure this isn't after pre-patch?

[@brandonkruse6412]

@@JoshuaCyrYes, in Cataclysm.

[@Tome-rr4ke]

@@Azot333I don’t see this either. Who is the vendor who currently (ie in WOTLK) sells these? Pretty sure it is only stone keeper shards until pre-patch as sneaky said.

[@Azot333]

You’re right it’s not there yet sorry

[@rahyrarpg1600]

Legs helm and maybe cloak, afaik these are guild rewards

[@viorelionut6306]

helm and cloak?

[@serhattemur9451]

where is the honor heirloom vendor ?

[@EternalAngel333]

plot twist the rings did make it into the game they got added in WoD

[@sebastianandreassen1385]

So where would one buy these heirlooms for honor? You mention that it is worth buying them before pre-patch but google is not my friend no sources tell me that they are purchasable for honor

[@bstring7773]

Theyre found in the same room as the other tier vendors and bought with Heroism emblems, or buyable at the Argent tourney grounds in the big tent after getting full exalted with the Argent Crusade using Champion Seals.

[@bstring7773]

Oh the honor ones are bought from the Wintergrasp vendor, but they are different from the ones shown with resilience rather than other stats, though they still give bonus xp.

[@sebastianandreassen1385]

No Wintergrasp heirlooms are bought with stones not honor

[@sebastianandreassen1385]

And he is very clearly standing in Ogrimmar when talking about spending the honor now if wanting to get the looms rather than waiting till after pre-patch

[@Krytren]

I was hoping for the shields :( Had all the heirlooms for a mad min, have 2 Horde of every class at 80 and 2 Alliance, since before ICC dropped.

[@DerangedFinger]

I think the guild ones…. Uhhh helm? Pants?

[@brandonkruse6412]

Leave the legs in. There’s going to be a lot of people leveling from 1 and it’s a good incentive for promoting the guild rep system.

[@Xathian]

You tell people it's better to spend your honour now since it will be cheaper than prepatch. Yeah cool except for the fact that you can't buy Heirlooms with honour now, only in the prepatch after it's megabuffed in price.

[@tainicon4639]

Helm and cloak from guild level

[@trousersnake1486]

I'm dying from gamma run burn out for emblems 😓

[@ksadjdadjaifen]

I had full cloth heirlooms in WOTLK classic and now when i log into cata classic, i dont have any and i dont even see half my characters from wotlk

[@marcuscarter7060]

I need a Scottejaye heirloom in WoW called Shoey...

[@Scottejaye]

hahaha the heirloom shoe

[@philmycoke]

comment as you begged for it so u can get better raiting.

[@lich5956]

I am finding it incredibly frustrating that they aren’t giving us any info on cata but the bare minimum. When will raids launch? What state will the raids be in? What state will dungeons be in? (I remember they were pretty hard to start with as you needed to CC or at least not stand in stuff and dps was used to old wrath hcs where the tank just pulled and ran) Are we getting nerfed content as we are starting on a late patch or have they put in the pre nerfed versions? Is cash flow in? What transmog are we getting? As a GM it’s hard to plan anything right now and as a player the radio silence is stupid

[@andromidius]

Yeah I don't get this radio silence and lack of interest either. SoD is a short term project, but regular Classic will likely go on for maybe a decade - and if Cataclysm ends up bad due to negligence it'll have a ripple effect on future Classic expansions (like it did originally). Blizzard need to get their act in order and pronto and stop listening to the naysayers screaming about how much they hate something they have no intention of even giving a chance.

[@09666slayer]

legs, helm and cloack from what i can remember

[@Dalex19]

Got all of em besides that pesky ring. I've been really unlucky with that fishing competition in Northrend.

[@yungsmorc6462]

Man every bloody time i have a punt on the ring someone rips the shark in in about 3 minutes. I feel you cuz

[@ravilan8858]

Good luck brother. Took me months of doing it every Saturday, but eventually perseverance will pay

[@conorf8091]

Need more cans before fishing

[@austinhensley6553]

@@ravilan8858 if you dont get shark 1st cast you dont get shark tbh

[@PoorWax]

Make use of the locked and dead servers if you still have any characters on there - competition for the fishing stuff gotta be the lowest it's ever been

[@russ2701]

helm and cloak i think!

[@gejzericaaezakmi]

wdym rings never made to main game

[@TinyTaurenRK]

Helm and cloak 100%

[@brutalit0ps702]

Legs were added in Cata, I remember buying them in Cata AND in MoP you had to buy the little upgrade token things for the legs to make them usable from 85-90.

[@zelden666]

Source for the emblem conversions? I'm on the beta and emblems haven't converted on any characters

[@Scottejaye]

Well they have for my entire guild on there lol, not all characters though. You need to check your fresh 80 copies, not characters you've actively levelled.

[@warcraftnerdy]

who needs heirloom gear when boosts are in the game

[@Racerguardguy]

0:51 comment.....Pretty sure its head and legs?

[@TheCeladons]

They’re the exact same as wotlk, you just get a few more from guild rep. Saved you a video

[@Budweiser-jh9uj]

Think it should be head and cloak

[@faridzaoui6677]

they have a lvl 80 cap you cant use it

[@HexxRSA]

Where to buy heirlooms with honor? Ive scoured the internet & I find diddely squat 😂

[@robsling7096]

Legs only right?

[@shaunkelley4131]

I genuinely like the Heirloom Ring idea.

[@stuartmcdade5711]

The legs defo were available in cata as i had them in original cata and never played MoP

[@brandonkruse6412]

That wouldn’t actually be possible because the guild achievement was added in patch 5.0.4

[@stuartmcdade5711]

@@brandonkruse6412 Cataclysm expansion (Patch 4.0. 3), heirlooms were added that scale up to level 85 rare equivalents (helms, cloaks, legs, and rings). In Patch 4.1, a few more were added (helm, cloak, legs, and ring). This was a simple google search and maybe they weren't locked behind a guild achievement at the time but i defo had them during cata.

[@mackdye9070]

making heirlooms harder to get is fucked up. No wonder they became bought for gold eventually.

[@hots1132]

DMF vid now plox

[@Shikaradin66]

I'm scared Scotty.... Prepatch is going to be an open beta....

[@Destory-kc3od]

Ez... old heirlooms 1-80, new (head and cloak) 1-85...

[@carlosthemandalor3650]

Looms ? Lol im a og i run the og grind the way wow classic was intended

[@user-qm6ww1vh4d]

Rip emblems....

[@yiorc]

You can also buy heirlooms with champion's seal, and those arent going anywhere

[@Die_Quelle]

but who is even using this heirlooms at this point anymore, if i desperately need and alt i boost em.

[@NickPlays95]

They have put no effort into cata and want us to burn through it in 12 months or less. For that reason, I’m not playing it. I was so excited but seeing them put no effort into it ruins the excitement

[@cat_in_the_hat2340]

Just legs and cloack was add it

[@brandonkruse6412]

The legs weren’t added until Mists but they may end up altering the achievement for Cata.

[@Greynth]

So glad you called out Aggrend’s ridiculous diatribe posting about Season of Dogshit while the Cata beta is a literal abortion. They are so out of touch it’s incredible. As for heirlooms, I’m so glad I’m not one of those players running world tour heroics every day to catch up on collecting all of them at the 11th hour lol

[@d0718]

Heirlooms is such a stupid system. Big part of the game is finding new items, the excitement when you roll on your first blue in deadmines, seeing bigger numbers after an upgrade etc. They completely take it away with the heirloom system. What I hope they do is replace all heirlooms with 1 tabard or shirt item that gives +20% xp or whatever and maybe +10% all stats or something if they must.

[@brandonkruse6412]

You don’t have to play with heirlooms. It’s totally up to you.

[@boarderz8275]

Im intrigued what will happen to the heirlooms too after they delete the servers cause noones going to play trashaclysm 😂😂😂

[@mijae1146]

FIRST

[@zytha2890]

Guess ill just stay in classic Nice job ruining it all blizz

[@J2911L]

The amount of effort being put into Cataclysm is such an embarrasment. It really is the bare minimum. They could have made such a 'hated' or disliked expansion really cool by adding new features like challenge modes or the ring heirloom stuff, but they're just going to rush through the entirety of Cata in less than a year. Let alone how they're going to treat MoP.

[@Nihuhuhu90]

Well I m waiting for legion classic Copium

[@johnmadden6521]

…what?

[@fiat_ow7876]

@@johnmadden6521right? Like the whole point of classic is to relive the previous expansions with minimal change.

[@BlindGuardian050]

Speak for yourself, cata is a great expansion

[@brandonkruse6412]

Cataclysm has enough content and new stuff to keep everyone entertained for a year. It’s not a long expansion and people originally complained that the patches were too long. Just leveling up 1-60 is practically an entirely new game. If what Cata has to offer isn’t enough for you, just skip it lol.

[@nope1257]

Why cant we get a full gear of heirlooms like i enjoy leveling on my first char then let me farm for the satisfaction of blasting through zones i used to strugle in thats what i love about wow not this scaling shit where the reward for leveling up is that you are constantly weaker

[@Bucketheadxx]

Because that's the way the game is designed. It's not designed around "your" way of playing. If you don't like it don't play it, stop complaining.

[@xMissMaveNx]

Good job not even telling us where to actually get the heirlooms. 🤬🤣🤷

[@Press1ForSummon]

heirlooms no longer show 1-85, they are all set to 1-80. no chance in hell they want ppl using heirlooms on their main