What Should a New Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Game Look Like?

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Retro & Chill

Retro & Chill

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@Xenbiotic
@Xenbiotic 2 жыл бұрын
Can never go wrong with a remake of Sky.
@Another45555
@Another45555 2 жыл бұрын
They will definetly go wrong with a remake of sky.
@brycetheobald5163
@brycetheobald5163 Жыл бұрын
Explorers Of Sky!! I wanna see fogbound lake again so bad. I will shed tears if it is a remake of explorers of sky.
@LitereallyNobody7
@LitereallyNobody7 Жыл бұрын
Sky doesnt need a remake, maybe a port or remaster but not a full on remake. It was already a masterpiece. I also dont think it would look as good in the new 3d style as the dungeon exploring aspect looks better in 2d pixels imo
@KazShiro
@KazShiro Жыл бұрын
@@LitereallyNobody7 with how the top and touch screen showed graphics or used controls they'll have to go the dx or red rescue team route in remastering it so it can work with one screen.
@nicholuswilliams6443
@nicholuswilliams6443 Жыл бұрын
No Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explores of Sky Darkness Time
@Tribow
@Tribow 2 жыл бұрын
The belly mechanic is actually pretty well implemented. It rewards good resource management and it makes protecting your inventory really matter. If it were to be nerfed I could see it being changed in a way where you get the slow debuff when the belly is empty or your auto health regen could get disabled. The fact that the belly being empty can force you to faint is a pretty heavy punishment and is the main reason why some people don't like it.
@_marshP
@_marshP Жыл бұрын
tbh if you ever die of starvation in this game either A. you are very unlucky with your items B. you cannot play well because you are very very young C. you cannot play well because you suck at item management
@fruitful6139
@fruitful6139 2 жыл бұрын
3:33 I would LOVE to have the “Mysteriosity Rating” to come back from PMD Gates To Infinity. There is TONS of things you can do with that feature to make a dungeon more interesting and to keep a player on their toes. I also loved the free-roaming sections in the first 3 dungeons of PMD Gates To Infinity. They were short, but made the dungeons more immersive Also maybe add a hard mode?? As someone who is quite experienced with PMD games, they’ve become just too easy!! A hard mode would be perfect
@Tribow
@Tribow 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have a big gripe about the IQ system being removed. Don't get me wrong, the IQ system is terrible, but ever since they got rid of it the AI of teammates has gotten both worse and less variable. The only way you can change a teammates AI is tactics and they didn't add more to the tactics after removing IQ. Your teammates will always use their most damaging move every single time. Missing things like Exclusive Move User is a shame. Plus, your teammates are guarenteed to always act the same. I think the best way to bring back IQ is to have slightly different AI based on their Nature value. (You know, like Hardy, Jolly, Docile, and the such.) You still don't have full control over it, but now you can try to plan ahead and take the Natures of your teammates into account when deciding tactics.
@c.-.jordan723
@c.-.jordan723 Жыл бұрын
Honestly farming gummies to unlock all IQ’s wasn’t that big of a deal for me.
@MrRedGreenBlue1
@MrRedGreenBlue1 Жыл бұрын
My main idea for how they could bring back IQ is have your main starter, partner and most plot relevant recruits start out with all of the different IQ based commands from the get go so right off the bat you can really customize their AI to fit your playstyle but then all of the dungeon pokemon you recruit need to gain IQ points via leveling up with Gummies being a way to speed up that process while also yielding stat boosts the pokemon would nornally get through vitamins. Also instead of gummi colours and prefrences retaining to type pokemon like different gummies based on their nature, with everyone loving silver, gold and rainbow gummies.
@Damariobros
@Damariobros Жыл бұрын
@@MrRedGreenBlue1Or how about, have the essentials available starting out, and much more than Explorers had, but don't include the broken ones in that starter pack? Like, parters should be avoiding visible traps, but you don't want the player to be able to abuse Stair Finder from the first dungeon in the game.
@ExaltedTilemaker
@ExaltedTilemaker 5 ай бұрын
I think they should keep the rare quality system from rescue team DX, but make them permanent upgrades which you can only have 1of active at a time, and every several gummis or so, you get a new one. I accidentally replaced the rare quality i wanted my partner to have and spent my entire gummi collectuon trying to be lucky and get it back, and didn't. Moments like that could be avoided this way, and it gives yet another new system of progression for the player to work towards. Maybe add a way to increase the number of rare quality slots, but that might be too overpowered, so possibly not. It would sort of combine the IQ system and rare quality system together for something a lot more cohesive.
@fruitful6139
@fruitful6139 2 жыл бұрын
12:16 I love your ideas! Just some things to add, 1. I BEG for nintendo to make the partner more interesting. The partner has been virtually the same in all of the PMD games (even super except near the end). Maybe add more backstory? Noticeable character development? More dialog options? Etc, etc 2. It certainly wouldn’t hurt to make the protagonist more interesting. Like the protag having some trouble adjusting to the world of pokemon, remembering a little of their past, having somewhat of a personality would be cool 3. S P E C I A L E P I S O D E S
@Another45555
@Another45555 2 жыл бұрын
Wdym? The super partner is extremely different to the other partners all the time.
@Demonic_Culture_Nut
@Demonic_Culture_Nut Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah. I wish þere was a dialogue option to try tricking Skuntank in Explorers. I also wish þere were some hints þe player character was from þe future before Dusknoir shows up. Maybe a line of dialogue of þem not smiling during þe morning cheer or Wigglytuff being taken aback when meeting or waking up early on þe first day in þe Guild and watching þe sun rise wiþ a tail wag. Þe closest þe game offers is Fogbound Lake being familiar and Uxie never seeing a human. One final þing, *S P E C I A L E P I S O D E S* please, Spike Chunsoft. Þey were þe best part of Explorers of Sky. Especially Special Episode 5, which ended perfectly and totally didn't completely destroy þe emotions of Govyle's, Celebi's, and þe player's sacrifice as well as Dusknoir's redemption by bringing everyone from þe Planet's Paralysis into þe new world.
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya Жыл бұрын
@@Demonic_Culture_Nut What is this character *"þ"* ? Why does it always replace the "th" combo?.
@fruitful6139
@fruitful6139 Жыл бұрын
@@toumabyakuya That letter called “thorn” stopped being used commonly in like 1400~, not sure why theyre using runic English
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 жыл бұрын
I really Hope we get a group of friends in the next mystery dungeon game like Emolga and Dunsparce and the others in Gates and the expedition society in super. Preferably actually joining your team like in gates.
@rmt3589
@rmt3589 3 ай бұрын
I loved the IQ system so much! Was so sad it wasn't in the remake. That, and being able to visit your friends.
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the Main Hero in super had gotten there memory back at some point especially during/before the climax. It would’ve enhanced the climax tenfold since it would’ve actually felt like the hero’s battle to fight.
@wintersong2266
@wintersong2266 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason protagonists never recover their memories in Mystery Dungeon. I guess it's their way of making them a blank slate since they're not completely silent protagonists like in the main games.
@Another45555
@Another45555 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the point, its not.
@josaete2297
@josaete2297 Жыл бұрын
@@wintersong2266 GtI's MC never really lost its memory iirc
@wintersong2266
@wintersong2266 Жыл бұрын
@@josaete2297 Yeah and ironically their backstory is even more nonexistent than most of the other amnesiac protagonists.
@thewindofsuicune
@thewindofsuicune 2 жыл бұрын
I could see a human main antagonist for a future PMD game. We know they exist during the time that PSMD takes place but are likely almost extinct. One idea for a potential motive is that they want to bring back the technological highs that humanity achieved long ago by any means necessary.
@wintersong2266
@wintersong2266 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't we arleady have that with Gengar in Rescue Team? He wasn't really the cause of the catastrophes but he was the closest thing to a main villain the game had,
@thewindofsuicune
@thewindofsuicune 2 жыл бұрын
@@wintersong2266 Not really. While he was a human, it didn’t really factor too much into his motivations. He could of been written been written as someone who was always a Pokémon with a different kind of curse and not much else would change.
@HeroG9000
@HeroG9000 Жыл бұрын
Ok but hear me out… TOBY FOX MYSTERY DUNGEON SOUNDTRACK!!!
@myname2896
@myname2896 2 жыл бұрын
5:24 forget 50 floor dungeons, just don't make us put up with aegis cave 3 times because we missed a regi
@Big-Image
@Big-Image Жыл бұрын
Fans want an Explorers remake, while others want a new game. I'd say why not both? Imagine an Explorers remake featuring new Pokemon ranging from Gen 5 through 9, a reimagined story and a brand new post game.
@youinanalternateuniverse
@youinanalternateuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
This a relatively small mechanic and it might be too late to bring it back, but I really wish they'd return the puzzles and mid-dungeon areas from Gates or do something similar to it. Really enjoyed them since they broke up some of the monotony that mystery dungeons tend to have and imo its disappointing that they werent in any games after (unless they were and i don't remember)
@youinanalternateuniverse
@youinanalternateuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
on the subject of gates mechanics i adore i also think companion mode would be a welcome return. it was a really useful feature and i love the idea of getting to play as your recruits, do missions and build up your team rank even when youre busy in the story, plus with the benefit of being able to transfer items between companion and story mode. it was rlly nice, though i can understand it being excluded for making the game way easier than it normally would be.
@ZowiChan
@ZowiChan 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Most of the ideas you presented were very cool and I hope you’ll be right if a new PMD game comes out. Here are some of my hopes/expectations: - Full gen 1 to gen 9 rooster to recruit - Being able to pick a Pokémon if we don’t like the one we are assigned to after the personality quizz - More starter options (I know Alolan Vulpix and Zorua are very appreciated in the community) - A greater emphasis on multiplayer. It would be nice to explore a dungeon with friends although this could become very chaotic and I don’t think the gameplay is made for it. - Some kind of dungeon creator option so you can share your dungeon (number of floors, ennemies, bosses) with other players. - Being able to explore a few classic dungeons from previous games. - Add special episodes like Explorers of Sky did to reinforce attachment to side characters. - A challenge mode to avoid repetitive gameplay. For example: clearing a dungeon with a timer, with a peculiar Pokémon, with limited moves... - I must disagree with one point in your video: I hope they keep the distinct electronic feel in the music as it sets it apart from other games (orchestrated music feels too generic). Also I personally liked the OST of Rescue Team DX more than the 3DS games but that’s personal taste. - A story that does not include too much far fetched stuff especially in the end (looking at you Super). But even if none of my hopes get real, I’d still be very happy regardless to get a new game.
@rjante2236
@rjante2236 2 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see a plot involving Necrozma. Would be cool if the twist was that you're supposed to be helping Necrozma or something.
@DHS222
@DHS222 Жыл бұрын
I have always thought a ultra beast invasion with Necrozma would be a great plot for a PMD game
@ExaltedTilemaker
@ExaltedTilemaker 5 ай бұрын
I always thought it would be a cool idea if your main protagonist was evil before losing their memory. It could open up some huge potential for new storylines, like maybe losing your memory and turning into a Pokémon was a sort of curse that gave you exactly what you wanted (like the destruction of the world or whatever) except make it into something you don't want and (presumably) can't stop.
@RednekGamurz
@RednekGamurz 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of recruitment, I think we need some kind of a hybrid system. Maybe have set quests that guarantee recuiting Pokemon, and then after you do the set quest, you gain the ability to recruit that species of Pokemon in dungeons. For example, say you do a set quest for an Eevee. After you complete the quest, the Eevee joins your team, and now everytime you enter a dungeon with Eevees in it, you have a chance of recruiting them. You don't need the quest Eevee to do this either. This would sorta give players the best of both systems, I think. Also, I kinda hate the rare quality system in RTDX. It's not bad on paper, but the rare qualities being random is annoying, especially when you want to give a Pokemon a specific rare quality, and the game keeps giving you ones you don't want, so you have to keep grinding for gummies. The qualities themselves were also very unbalanced. Some were borderline useless, while others were almost required, especially if you want to do certain tasks, like recruit Pokemon. I really liked Super's looplet system, because the game was designed around it better, and the randomness was moreso an extra spice to the gameplay, rather than something annoying to deal with, especially because every emera you found could aid you in the dungeon. Don't like an emera's primary effect, or maybe you don't have any free slots to equip it too? Just use the emera and give yourself or a teammate a stat buff instead. I also wouldn't mind a return to an IQ system, although it would have to be greatly reworked. Make it less grindy, and make the ones that improve the AI default things all Pokemon have. The belly mechanic should absolutely stay. Gates showed that cutting (among other things) makes the game too easy, and I think PMD games should be pretty challenging. Not to the same level as some other rougelikes, but still harder than something like a main-series title. Outside of that, I think the next game should get rid of mainline starters being selectable as starters in the PMD games, or at least cut the ones that have already been playable. Like, maybe keep the gen 7-9 starters as options, but cut the rest of them. Super kinda showed that, because you only have so many available slots for Pokemon to become or be your partner, mainline starters are gonna take up more and more of those slots. Super only had 1 (2 if you don't count Pikachu) starter that wasn't a starter in the main series. Let other Pokemon have a spot to shine. Explorers and Rescue Team had a great blend of safe and more oddball picks. You could still have the mainline starters be in the game (obviously), but they shouldn't take up starter spots in the PMD games anymore.
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya Жыл бұрын
*"Super kinda showed that, because you only have so many available slots for Pokemon to become or be your partner, mainline starters are gonna take up more and more of those slots."* Not necessary, just add more slots. If they will still be part of the game, then why couldn't the Quiz have more Starter options?.
@RednekGamurz
@RednekGamurz Жыл бұрын
@@toumabyakuya How many more personality types could you really add to the quiz? The games have already sorta covered everything.
@Rob.D.Dolche
@Rob.D.Dolche 2 жыл бұрын
They should bring back the story concept of sky and add new types like Alolan Vulpix
@ThePaulineu
@ThePaulineu Жыл бұрын
The one thing i need differently from super mystery dungeon is the ability to prevent automatic pushing. We push our partners automatically now instead of walking through them. If you want to walk through them, you have to press B. I CONSTANTLY accidentally push my partner because he walks in front of me, and loose belly points for it. I just need for it to be the opposite system: press B to push, or automatically walk through
@sillerbarly4927
@sillerbarly4927 Жыл бұрын
Honesty post game for explorers was great and perfect, they should either keep that or expand upon it. As for the map, I liked how super combined all the previous regions into one world map and maybe have that as post game content with a story going across the entire world map and not just the region/contanent map. I did like the original method of recruiting, though maybe the connection ord method could be used for legendaries. Since recruiting the legendaries was kinda a side quest in itself for explorers
@EdgyVidyaGeneral
@EdgyVidyaGeneral 2 жыл бұрын
Belly idea: rather than being punished for not bringing food and going hungry over time, food instead applies buffs that wear off over time in the dungeon. So you wont go hungry, but you will be missing out on buffs by not regularly eating. To encourage eating, the base difficulty could be increased across the board. This would turn what's currently a chore into what could be an interesting mechanic.
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you finally did this video dude!
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 жыл бұрын
The mystery dungeon remake feels so much like a gen 7 game and I think the only gen 8 thing even in it is they gave Koffing Neutralizing Gas.
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true. It’s “technically” gen 8, despite drawing almost nothing from that gen.
@awesomeocelot7475
@awesomeocelot7475 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroAndChill exactly! It’s clear it was mostly or entirely in development before gen 8
@Blue587EE
@Blue587EE 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure Neutralizing Gas is in Rescue Team DX? I don't think it is.
@MadArnold
@MadArnold Жыл бұрын
Some new starters I would like to see added to the roster would be Purrlion, Growlithe, Rockruff, Sneasle, and Zorua. Also I would love to see a storyline where it involves the ultra beasts
@Sanngot
@Sanngot 2 жыл бұрын
If there's one big thing that needs to be changed, it's the gameplay in dungeons. So many friends who were Pokemon fans were completely turned off by the gameplay. Maybe don't abandon the mystery dungeon aspect completely. But make a floor more like a mini puzzle rather than just walking until you find the stairs. Make it so you could play it the traditional way, but with some smart thinking, and knowledge of the dungeon you're in, you can figure out right away where the stairs should be, or what conditions should be met to summon some stairs. They shook things up a little bit in Rescers DX with some of the late boss battles. But they really need to spice things up even more. Boss fights were usually boiled down to the same strat over an over. One thing I really loved about the dark matter fight for was that it had some moves where you were warned in advance which tiles were going to be danger zones and you had to move accordingly. What if one boss was invincible to adjacent spaces, and you had to space your team around it while you were chased down. How about one boss fight where instead of needing to beat them, you needed to escape. I think that would add some variety. Lastly, moves that affected the entire room were totally unfair. There's should be no reason my entire team gets wiped from an off screen opponent who used Earthquake. That being said, I'll still totally be getting the next PMD game no matter what. 😄
@nordiques3875
@nordiques3875 2 жыл бұрын
0:34 Is that Chuggaaconroy?
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
Why yes, it is
@SoraIndigo
@SoraIndigo Жыл бұрын
i think the belly mechanic is something that needs to permanently remain in the series because it forces the play to have less space in their bag for other useful items and think about it, you plan on entering say a 99f dungeon you are probably expecting to find food items in but you HAVE to bring at least say 3-5 maybe even 6 apples depending on their size(normal, big, huge) making your bag size of 48, realistically 43 or 42, so removing the belly mechanic gives back those slots which is great but it also makes every dungeon with no bag restrictions exponentially easier because it means you have more slots for reviver seeds, oran berries max elixers and maybe some other niche items/alternative held items for certain situations. one thing that DOES need to be removed is how in pmd DX all the main game story dungeons had basically x-ray specs permanently on, while early-mid game dungeons were easier compared to pmd red/blue for multiple reasons so it doesn't matter as much and luckily post game dungeons didn't have this and were much more difficult due to better enemy/boss movesets and the different boss room mechanics, the same potentially can't be said if a brand new pmd game had this x-ray spec mechanic active for the main story dungeon, it would just make the game easier compared to other games in the series without excuse since it isn't a remake or a remaster of a past version.
@zombiegod34
@zombiegod34 Жыл бұрын
Agreed with the belly argument but the map one falls apart since if i recall correctly you can just disable it now it should be disable by default or the game could ask you before you really get going in the game like after the quiz or something
@Berny4000
@Berny4000 Жыл бұрын
i had this thought of something weird going on in the human and pokemon world and the pokemon world, like they're both brought together and the humans in the normal world, would be turned into pokemon, because some anomaly messed with the very core of what humans are. so arceus noticed that and tried to fix it, but he'd find that, fixing that core part, would make it worse, so he decided to stabilize them, but the core change is permanent. it's a severe crisis, because the anomaly would still be too big of a threat, to let it be. nobody has done a mix of both worlds yet and humans becoming pokemon too, even in the "normal" world. no idea, what THAT would mean, when humans in pokemon form would be getting pokeballs thrown at them. and, if you had the choice at the end, to restore humanity to itself, you have to make this choice, to either sacrifice all pokemon, they will all go poof, or you can keep it, like it was, pokemon will stay and humans will remain pokemon, however, then they can shift between 2 forms, having a hybrid core.
@Berny4000
@Berny4000 Жыл бұрын
or the other thing is, a mystery dungeon, that extends to the human world as well
@ericwijaya2119
@ericwijaya2119 2 жыл бұрын
Well considering it will either be never or a long time until Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 5, if anyone's wishing to scratch that Mystery Dungeon itch, go buy Genso Wanderer Reloaded on Steam. Great game, heck if anything probably my favorite Mystery Dungeon game right after Gates To Infinity (it was the first Mystery Dungeon that I finished shut up). If you like Touhou Project, are desperate for something to scratch the Mystery Dungeon itch, both, or for me, somewhat both, pick up Genso Wanderer Reloaded. It's really fun, and I'm 23 and a half hours in, probably the longest time I've spent on a Steam game, which is saying something considering I mostly play mobile and/or 3DS and/or Switch.
@Blue587EE
@Blue587EE 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played that game, but I think it's based on Shiren the Wanderer, which is the main Mystery Dungeon series developed by Chunsoft/Spike Chunsoft. The most recent game in that series also came out on the Switch and Steam, so you might want to try that out too.
@ericwijaya2119
@ericwijaya2119 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blue587EE As much as I want to, goddammit I already bought the Touhou version
@liamskarhed6068
@liamskarhed6068 Жыл бұрын
I want shiny starters in the game. By starters then all pokemon u start with. So I can play as a shiny Riolu if I wanted. That would be very fun and make it extra special for those who will shiny hint before starting the game. And that you can save after getting a starter so you can hunt your buddy as well😃
@RockiesCanada
@RockiesCanada 10 ай бұрын
I loved the rare qualities in the new game. I hope they're brought over when they decide to release another game
@projectdelta8702
@projectdelta8702 2 жыл бұрын
Rescue team will always hold a special place in my heart, but the characters given by story in the rescue team games were always.... lacking I'd say, I think gates had a better way of giving our story recruits a time to shine in the story. I understand why the basic A attack was dropped though, it encourages careful planning of whatever moves your using so you can reserve PP or stock up on items to refill them. Rescue team dx has brought alot of good things in that regard. Like escape orbs don't spawn NEARLY as much in DX I didn't see one escape orb till post game and that means that now you have to commit to your mission, and if you select that "yes I want to keep exploring" option when you Rescue a pokemon, you better be stocked for it, strong opponents is an iffy system in my eyes, specially for the dungeons that don't let you see crap outside of your radius, like yeah, just drop an overleved opponent on me on my first run of a dungeon where I can't see them, where everything is already tough. That being said, they incentivise using most of your items that most often than not would probably be sitting in storage or being thrown at kecleon for money. I actually had to plan for tough opponents with orbs, seeds, and other items to beat them, they were fun little mini challenges for already beaten dungeons, not so much for the first runs of the, again, can't see shit, can't avoid them, post game dungeons where everything can two hit you from across the room. But that might just be me and horrible planning to be honest
@floraazul7622
@floraazul7622 2 жыл бұрын
The belly mechanic could be replaced with a meal power system like in Paldea! Certain meal powers could increase attack or evasiveness or recruitment rate, etc. for dungeon runs. You could eat a meal before entering a dungeon, or maybe you could eat a meal in the dungeon "save points" areas that have the kangaskhan statues.
@Big-Image
@Big-Image 2 жыл бұрын
For story, I would want it to be a war between the Pokemon and Ultra Beasts, with Necrozma as the central antagonist.
@bandicootsauce4569
@bandicootsauce4569 Жыл бұрын
Look up the KZbin channel BlackRaveBow. You can find some fan projects to that effect.
@_marshP
@_marshP Жыл бұрын
I think there has been a good selection of evil pokemon in the last 3 gens youve got necrozma youve got eternatus and you got the 4 evil exotic pets from paldea, being goldfish, giant snail, moose, and sabertoothed ferret
@platina1027
@platina1027 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope GF makes PMD 5, it would be so cool to have Pokemon like the Ultra Beasts or Eternatus play a big role in the games
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
GF doesn’t actually make MD. It’s developed by Spike Chunsoft.
@platina1027
@platina1027 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroAndChill Thanks for correcting me!
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
@@platina1027 GameFreak actually does made PMD 5 over a year ago, it's called Legends Arceus, and not only it is the best ever Mystery Dungeon game, but it was actually made by GameFreak since Spike Chunsoft outsourced it to GameFreak, explaining why GameFreak outsourced BDSP to ILCA.
@dayvonlouis5187
@dayvonlouis5187 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@candyneige6609? You know full well that PLA doesn’t play even remotely close the PMD they aren’t even part of the same series
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
@@dayvonlouis5187 You know fully well that Legends Arceus is indeed a Mystery Dungeon game and that you're a human turned Pokémon in Legends Arceus.
@FandomShifts
@FandomShifts Жыл бұрын
Love Pokémon mystery dungeon. It was an Isika before it was cool, had the best story telling, and i came up with some amazing moves/attacks combos. But I would like this game series to make a comeback. Some features I would like would be a bit of character customization (I love the concept of Ashchu) maybe not something so big but maybe little details that hit of your character not originally being a Pokémon, like maybe a necklace or your eye color is off. Starting Pokémon are all types and are from every gen. Maybe a custom story creator would be the main gimmick! The PMD community lives on strong though rom hacks. Not only would it make things easier for the programmers, it would pay tribute and help the community to tell their own stories. Just put in a dungeon editor that allows you to deside how many floors, enemy’s items and monsters houses. Then use the cutscene editor to make your own story! (You have to beat it yourself for it to get published) As for the main theme of the story I think a Human vs Pokémon conflict would be great! You turn into a Pokémon eveyone is lying to you about you always being a Pokémon, but you know your human. However humans are causing major destruction and damage to their world. That would be interesting!
@gwendolyndunn8021
@gwendolyndunn8021 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't mind having a service to open boxes. I want my Box Buster/Rockin Lock back for a new game!
@itsturniptime3699
@itsturniptime3699 Жыл бұрын
As someone who isn’t too well versed in mystery dungeon I would like to see more initial playable characters than just the starters. The older games were great at this like having options such as Cubone and Skitty but having exclusively starters feels weird for some reason
@ShimmeringVapidCoal
@ShimmeringVapidCoal 2 жыл бұрын
I really want explorers DX even though I haven't played the originals, just so we can all laugh over the premise of IGN having to review it again. Maybe one day...
@ShimmeringVapidCoal
@ShimmeringVapidCoal 2 жыл бұрын
@@heyimhere5920 Lol, maybe next gen
@Demonic_Culture_Nut
@Demonic_Culture_Nut Жыл бұрын
IGN's review of Explorers of Sky is already þe punchline of jokes. Imagine þe reviewer complaining how little þe plot changed from Explorers of Sky, þe core gameplay still being þe same, and not even making it to when Spinda's Cafe opens. Again. Of course, Spike Chunsoft should rewrite Bidoof's Wish and add some more Special Episodes. Hell, I'd be OK wiþ buying a Special Episode DLC so long as þe five from EoS are in þe base game.
@neronighteclipse1885
@neronighteclipse1885 Жыл бұрын
I know this video is over and done with but tackle is still in the game you have to uncheck all your moves so you don't auto-attack. However, it's not worth it since they treat the move like the tackle from the main series where you take damage when you run out of moves. Making it a gamble of whether will you kill the enemy before your recoil kills you first. If they do a remake of sky please don't make tackle do recoil damage it wasn't a strong move in the game in the first place and it was great for poking enemies whose hp was low enough to get a kill saving your stronger moves.
@InterceptorIV
@InterceptorIV Жыл бұрын
The music has to be epic. The first 2 PMD generations have the best music in the whole franchise. They should change IQ grinding but definitly keep the different IQ-abilities and add new abilties
2 ай бұрын
About the penalties for losing, grinding and hunger mechanic: everything could be solved with a casual/easy mode with simplified mechanics. It's great for kids and people who don't want to deal with it, while a normal mode have the core mechanics from the Mystery Dungeon series.
@krvgames9258
@krvgames9258 3 ай бұрын
I honestly want to see some things be in a new Mystery Dungeon game, like Pokemon from Gens 7 to 9, and even Volcanion, who never appeared in Super. I also want to see the Normal-Type Starters, Ground-Type Starters, Shinx, Axew, Machop, Vulpix and Psyduck to return as Starters with the Grass, Fire and Water starters of Gend 7 to 9 being added as new additions. As for the main villain, this is what I think is going to be hard. Like the Bittercold and Dark Matter were basically very similar, but having a Pokemon villain for a new game could make it similar to the true villain of the Explorers games Darkrai, and I’m talking about Necrozma and Eternatus. Like both Necrozma and Eternatus would basically be a Darkrai 2.0, as both would have the same goals as Darkrai in making the world a darker place, Darkrai by having the planet be paralyzed in time, Necrozma by stealing all the light from the planet, and Eternatus by starting the Darkest Day. The Ultra Beasts would be pretty interesting villains, as besides the Pokémon anime where they had an arc dedicated to them, in the original Sun and Moon, the Ultra Beasts had a sidequest about them, Poipole is obtained after beating Ultra Necrozma in Ultra Sun and Moon, and Blacephalon and Stakataka are caught in the postgame of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, respectively. But if they do make a non-Pokemon villain for a new game, they should make it different from the Bittercold and Dark Matter.
@TogekissKate
@TogekissKate 10 ай бұрын
i want to add an idea to your list and its to make any pokemon be able to be shiny but have strong foe pokemon to be increased shiny odds a bit (not a lot just a little more than the regular mon shiny odds) it would give a longer life span for shiny hunters since dx really only had a couple because they were all strong foes or one set to be shiny (not gonna mention it out loud in case anyone hasnt played the game)
@izzy4559
@izzy4559 2 жыл бұрын
I really do hope they make a new mystery dungeon game for us soon. I wouldn't say no to a remake of explorers or gates though :D (Gates has some of my favourite features and it's really a shame that it's brought down by the slow text speed and limited choice of pokemon)
@MrRedGreenBlue1
@MrRedGreenBlue1 Жыл бұрын
Honestly as much as I want a new from the ground up mystery dungeon 5 I also wouldn't mind just getting "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky DX" and then saving a big proper new mystery dungeon game for the Switch 2 or whatever. It'd honestly be on brand for the switch to be the big "HD Remake" era of mystery dungeon because holy cow the switch loves it's HD Remakes. Alternatively if Spike Chunsoft wants to really throw people for a loop make "Gates to Infinity DX" and fix all the game's major flaws, the two big ones I remember is having a pitiful selection of only five starter pokemon and having more or less no post game. Since gates to infinity is such a glorified Super Mystery Dungeon tech demo Spike Chunsoft could really change a ton of it to essentially market it as an all new game and I don't think anyone would mind... That being said Explorers of Sky DX would definately sell better...
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
They did already made Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 5, it's called Legends Arceus, and it's the best Mystery Dungeon game ever made.
@MrRedGreenBlue1
@MrRedGreenBlue1 Жыл бұрын
@@candyneige6609 What the actual fuck are you on my guy? Legends Arceus is great but it sure as fuck isn't mystery dungeon
@BlazingTyphlosion
@BlazingTyphlosion Жыл бұрын
A first person Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game would be cool.
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
Legends Arceus, the best Mystery Dungeon game, kinda has that, where if you hold ZL, you'll enter 1st person perspective, and if you let it go, you'll switch back to 3rd person perspective.
@PFGFrankly
@PFGFrankly 2 жыл бұрын
pokemon mystery dungeon gates to infinity was my first pokemon game. it was that game that got me into pokemon
@blackjacklover99
@blackjacklover99 Жыл бұрын
For about as long as the series is been around. I’ve really been wanting them to make a game that focuses on the legends around humanity. And why they don’t seem to be present in this world. And what was up with those ruins you could go to in the first game.
2 ай бұрын
My two cents on this: 1. Fixed missions with their own side-stories (similar to FFTA and FFTA2). 2. The partner shouldn't be mandatory in the main game, allowing a more strategic approach to the team. 3. Pokémon should evolve naturally with the game like in the main series (players would have a stronger sense of progress). 4. Casual mode for those who don't want the hunger mechanic and penalties. 5. High quality story.
@roxannwinslow6730
@roxannwinslow6730 Жыл бұрын
I would like to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon to have a story based on something like saving a Pokemon like Necozma who's considered a big bad but in reality is a guardian good guy in the game.
@dayvonlouis5187
@dayvonlouis5187 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a mystery dungeon game with a focus on hunting outlaws it was kind of a thing in the explorers entries and change the way how move levels works I seriously could’ve completed DX twice with the amount of time I had to put in to max out Draco Meteor
@comercole1940
@comercole1940 Жыл бұрын
yes i want one this year!!!!
@Damariobros
@Damariobros Жыл бұрын
Personally, I never minded the IQ system. The gummis were a cool idea, and the gummis actually get rid of bad effects like a heal seed too! So even if you don't get IQ skills from eating one it's still immediately beneficial to do so! I do think it needs to be shuffled around tho. A lot of IQ skills should be available from the beginning of the game. Basic things like your partner avoiding visible traps, that Explorers didn't have from the start of the game. At the same time, I can see it being fun to improve your IQ and you're partner's AI over time, so they go from nicely competent to a complete strategic powerhouse! In addition, skills like Stair Finder were super broken once you finally got it, it'd be nice to have them back and a nice treat to finally unlock it. I think with rebalancing and shuffling around skills that are unlocked from the beginning of the game, I think IQ can be reimplemented as an alright system!
@HatchetTheAxew
@HatchetTheAxew 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the legendary recruit thing but also I think shinies should do the same thing
@lk_3099
@lk_3099 Жыл бұрын
Is it too ambitious to hope for a similar system to Scarlet and Violet with having 3 storylines for the latest 3 generations? Like have: Ultra Wormhole storyline, Darkest Day storyline and Time Paradox storyline. Also I'd love to see Z-Moves, Dynamax and Tarastal to go with Mega Evolution. If so, I'd limit the starters to only Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, Grookey, Scorbunny, Sobble, Prigatito, Fuecoco, Quaxly and the rest can be other non traditional starters from across all gens. If they went with all traditional starters that'd be 27, too many from such limited types.
@precascer8221
@precascer8221 Жыл бұрын
As someone who played only the Super but has a love for the atmosphere, ideas and the setting of PMD, I think the exploring system could really be redone or something. Let me explain. The overall tile-to-tile movement system that is like, in all games, even the DX; should be changed. It sort of limits your movement, and it makes encounters specially im cramped hallways VERY troublesome. The overall system feels so empty and...eh, it feels like you're taking cards for a deck for your mission rather than inhabitants of this world. Shared EXP, level-based evolving rather than waiting for the post game to evolve key characters, these are good things that can help. Along with the rare ability system. Another thing these dungeons has are the floor counting. There are SO MANY, and I couldn't go beyond the Beheeyem cave because I just wanted to rush, because IT'S A PAIN TO GO THROUGH IT OVER AND OVER! It may be me being a bitch with dungeon-crawling games, but still. Shin Megami Tensei is a dungeon crawler and the 5th game did a whole new thing with mastery. I know this may kill the whole predural generated dungeons, and the "mystery" aspect of it, but still. I believe a metroidvania approach with areas around the region the game happens and underground tunnels, caves, crystal coves, etc; is a great approach. That's it. I may be wrong or not have the room to talk, but that's what I believe.
@Rob.D.Dolche
@Rob.D.Dolche 2 жыл бұрын
Also they should add the sky level up system because the last two felt like it took hours just to level up not toention the story progressed too fast
@MrMaster767
@MrMaster767 2 жыл бұрын
We need Explorers of Sky remade NOW!!!
@GoldAndGrey
@GoldAndGrey 4 ай бұрын
I would definitely fix the exp gain in the game. Leveling up sucks in MD games. Also, evolving. I’d love to be able to evolve at least once before the end of the main story
@Mysda_
@Mysda_ 2 жыл бұрын
You might want to check the Shiren games to understand why the pokemon one are like they are. It's pretty much the Shiren formula simplified but made grindier because there is no roguelike death system anymore and leveling has to take the whole storyline and not just a run. I would really like for the pokemon ones to include the much more diverse enemy specification role. In Shiren every enemies has one or two key aspect that asks you to deal with them differently. In pokemon the abilities can do a bit, but I would love the attacks to have more diverse stuff, for effects and range, and require smarter placement. Also the double abilities of the original DS games were so damn cool, I wish they would come back. It makes some pokemons broken, but it's just a ton more fun!
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand Жыл бұрын
Well actually the basic dungeon crawling formula of mystery dungeon as a whole comes from the original rogue, the game that inspired the roguelike genre
@Mysda_
@Mysda_ Жыл бұрын
@@KeinNiemand Of course but Chunsoft is a massive pillar for the genre, that founded a lot of points that later roguelikes follows sometimes way more than what rogue did. Thats why I would love for Chunsoft to really be part of the story of roguelikes (but it already is on wikipedia so thats nice)
@FirstLast-mn4re
@FirstLast-mn4re 7 ай бұрын
Nah looplets were great. PMD is a rougelike, its supposed to have elements of randomness and exploration to it, and I really liked that even the useless emeras you find could be crushed to give you stat boosts for the rest of the dungeon. They were probably my favorite addition in Super Mystery Dungeon and I really hope looplets/emeras (or a similar kind of system) becomes a staple for any future PMD games As for Recruitment, I think maybe a hybrid system of mission based recruitment and random recruitment could work. Missions being a guaranteed way to receuit a pokemon, but random recruits allow for multiple of the same pokemon I legendaries should be mission only though.
@yune5521
@yune5521 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly and it sounds very lame but i just want the extra Pokémon i recruit back in the cut scene i have recently played blue rescue team again and something about having my Zigzagoon there made it feel like more of a completed thing to watch its very small and simple and doesn't impact the game at all but it was just a small thing i really long to return.
@aneeshsrinivas9088
@aneeshsrinivas9088 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if PMD 5 had 2 partners instead of 1.
@bensonbone
@bensonbone Жыл бұрын
I think that the connection or would be a good concept to have again, but it would make it really difficult to have a shiny Pokémon
@brycetheobald5163
@brycetheobald5163 Жыл бұрын
I want fogbound lake again the lake spirits all the goodies I wanna see temporal tower dialga all of the goodies that the original had don't change the music just modernize it don't add anything just a simple remake is all I want maybe just add the new type add the newer pokemon up to the most recent ofc.
@Demonic_Culture_Nut
@Demonic_Culture_Nut Жыл бұрын
I want to see Primal Dialga shattering my screen in crisp 720p. Or 1080p if I use switch my monitor's input.
@hollamonm
@hollamonm 7 ай бұрын
So first off Sky DX, yes, please. I don't think it's been their highest priority with Gen 10 stuff alongside the next Legends and some info I received about why there's no "Switch 2" yet, namely backwards compatibility with base Switch games... I feel like it'll be another "Legends-like" release time and probably be a promised "Switch 2" early and/or launch title. Kinda like how some later released Switch titles were like "this will be out by the time you finish your Zelda and Mario games we started with." Anyway, I feel like they would want a New or Remade MD game to be early in a new console's life cycle in order to sell better. So gen 10 will probably be a holiday release for "Switch 2" as well as being able to brag about backwards compatibility with Switch games, keeping Legends ZA as a worthwhile investment. Secondly- I think if they do 5, test out the "DE" as a DX of each game set, to see what fans want to see. Lastly- I feel like they need to swap things around a bit. In short: not exactly a masterclass of the pinnacle of the game, but instead, a different ending. Maybe you're a Pokémon with amnesia who isn't a "chosen one" or "human" or anything, just like, a Robin from FE Awakening. Just past is a blank, there's an evil version of you running around perhaps, hitting major emotional moment, but perhaps your partner is who YOU wake up trying to remember who you are, let alone where you are and the town is trying to assist you in remembering who you are, meanwhile your partner is trying to unpack their entire stuff, and hint that there is more to them than just the standard "ending" these games have had. Instead of a gut punch, how about an uppercut to out feels? Y'know? PS- "Switch 2" details I provided are literally hearsay from a secondhand source. It's not verified as of yet, April 19th.
@bandicootsauce4569
@bandicootsauce4569 Жыл бұрын
For as much as I'd like to see an all-new Mystery Dungeon entry, I feel like nothing is ever going to top Explorers Of Sky for me. Besides, remaking that game would be quicker and easier anyway, given that ChunSoft has Rescue Team DX to use as a foundation to build upon; that's half the work done already... more or less.
@InktheImpassive
@InktheImpassive Жыл бұрын
I don't really care for the gameplay, I guess it's fun being stacked on items and money stored, and you and your partner being hilariously strong as first stage evos but I mostly care about its story, its so consistently good.
@Mae_halloween
@Mae_halloween 2 жыл бұрын
oooh what i would do for e new pmd game
@0111NH_Noah
@0111NH_Noah Жыл бұрын
The game is supposed to be Grindy. And yes it should be difficult to recruit legendaries. Try the PMD community while waiting for the next one. Or code your own PMD game. The longer the wait the better the game. Let's take it easy.
@frombogue
@frombogue Жыл бұрын
I personally believe what’s coming first is a remake to explorers of sky because why would new players downgrade generations just for an amazing story. Then if they want to continue they will begin to cover and maybe milk each generation we’ve haven’t gotten Pokémon for 1st Sword/Shied 2nd Sun/Moon 3rd Scarlet/Violet
@blazethesteamdragon6202
@blazethesteamdragon6202 10 ай бұрын
Reading through a lot of these comments, man the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Origins demo would rock y'all's world.
@KevX36
@KevX36 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie for a long time I thought that rescue team dx was gen 7 for some reason
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
I mean for all intents and purposes it is. There are literally no gen 8 moves, Pokémon, or abilities in the game whatsoever.
@Meewthree
@Meewthree Жыл бұрын
I know the Super devs made super planning for it to be the last one as they felt they had covered everything they wanted to through all the games. And i very much respect them for planning to let a good thing lie instead of beating it senseless for a extra money and the series losing all the passion it did. Though at the same time, ofc I would love to play a mystery dungeon 5 😂
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
In the end, Super was not the last Mystery Dungeon game, as Mystery Dungeon 5 had just been released over a year ago, called Legends Arceus.
@user_Z-
@user_Z- 2 жыл бұрын
I want explorers dx more than a new game simply because the original is the greatest game ever made
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
We already have Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 5, it's called Legends Arceus, and it's the best one ever made.
@WooperButBetter
@WooperButBetter Жыл бұрын
Ok, how is PLA a mystery dungeon game? You play as a human in PLA, You have a 6 Pokémon party, battles work like mainline games, there ARENT EVEN MYSTERY DUNGEONS, and unlike every other PMD game, it doesn’t have mystery dungeon in the title.
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Жыл бұрын
@@WooperButBetter The thing is, you do indeed play as a human in Legends Arceus, just one that got turned into a Pokémon that is, because you more specifically play as either Rowlet, Cyndaquil or Oshawott, and because you're a Pokémon, you can get attacked by other Pokémon, take damage, and even faint, and in addition, you have a team consisting of yourself and up to 5 other Pokémon for a total of up to 6 Pokémon, battles work in real-time, there ARE INDEED MYSTERY DUNGEONS, and while it doesn't have Mystery Dungeon in its title, it is the first PMD game to do that and break tradition, imagine an Explorers remake that is just titled Pokémon Explorers DX, either way, Legends Arceus is indeed a Mystery Dungeon game.
@nightwing2032
@nightwing2032 Ай бұрын
@@candyneige6609legends arceus or the legends games definitely aren’t mystery dungeon games. They don’t even have the same gameplay or look. In mystery dungeon, you’re playing as a pokemon and in the legends games you aren’t or at least in legends arceus you aren’t. I don’t know why you think they are the same when they aren’t. I’m a huge Pokemon mystery dungeon game but even I can see that they aren’t the same, like at all. We haven’t had a new pokemon mystery dungeon game since pokemon super mystery dungeon in 2015.
@candyneige6609
@candyneige6609 Ай бұрын
@@nightwing2032 In both games, you do play as a Pokémon, and as such, can get attacked by other Pokémon. Hence, Legends Arceus is a Mystery Dungeon game.
@nightwing2032
@nightwing2032 Ай бұрын
@@candyneige6609 it’s not a mystery dungeon. In legends arceus, you never play as a pokemon ever, you play a human. What game did you play? In what part of legends arceus did you ever play as a pokemon and not a human like the mystery dungeon games. No where was legends arceus a mystery dungeon game. Even if you look it up online, the game still won’t be a mystery dungeon game. You have to be joking, there is no way you’re serious. The only thing you got right was getting attacked by Pokemon which is what they do in the game.
@AL-nv4gk
@AL-nv4gk 2 жыл бұрын
Sprite based beat em up not tile based while traversing dungeons would be cool imo
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
So a spin-off of the spin-off?
@AL-nv4gk
@AL-nv4gk 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroAndChill the whole concept everything all stays the same could even use the visuals of the first game just the gameplay loop changes
@wintersong2266
@wintersong2266 2 жыл бұрын
So you basically want Pokémon Rumble but with the visuals of Mystery Dungeons?
@Herb774
@Herb774 Жыл бұрын
5:50 A bit???
@ZappoNinja
@ZappoNinja 2 жыл бұрын
In the next Mystery Dungeon they should just kill the main character and not bring them back
@WooperButBetter
@WooperButBetter Жыл бұрын
Just kill the main character 30 minutes in and have the story focus on a different character who also dies quickly, repeat until world is saved
@nateplayz3386
@nateplayz3386 Жыл бұрын
This boy is cute 👀
@free_bird8772
@free_bird8772 2 жыл бұрын
The belly system made me actually believe I could eat one whole apple and call that a meal. I was super dumb
@free_bird8772
@free_bird8772 2 жыл бұрын
On another note they should make another Pokémon conquest
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
Actually though. An Apple is like less than 100 and it’s basically all carbs
@free_bird8772
@free_bird8772 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroAndChill excuse me its 100% in my eyes god bless America 🦅🇲🇾
@RetroAndChill
@RetroAndChill 2 жыл бұрын
@@free_bird8772 lol idk why I put a % there
@jamesperrott1
@jamesperrott1 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you just standing And moving your hands for every single word for 20 minutes straight
@christelleroderick524
@christelleroderick524 Жыл бұрын
I personally make a big deal over the smaller stuff vs the big stuff one thing that really gets on my nerves is gender I hated that they got rid of gender and don't ask you if you are male or female it's such a tiny thing yet they get rid of it for certain countries but keep it in the Japanese release I am a feminist and I want to play as female so I had to avoid playing as pokemon with gender differences to play without being bothered by it in super mystery dungeon and I want the original attack back it's very challenging to play without draining all of our moves within the first 5 floors if they get rid of it we should have alot more times to use our moves 15 pp isn't enough and neither is 10 and since they buffed pokemon enemies you can easily spend 3 PP on a single pokemon. I personally want an Explorers of sky remake
2 ай бұрын
10:25 YES!!!! They should make like Final Fantasy Tactics A2, with a mission list with their own stories.
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