What the HELL is Mother Up? (the FAILED girl version of Family Guy)

[@Saberspark]

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[@raek7788]

Kk

[@andrewsanusi8462]

Cool

[@Miscellaneous_Toaster]

Toaster

[@mariomaster101official]

Epic

[@FilmFestival2000]

Review EIGHT CRAZY NIGHTS plz

[@bertrandkane9678]

It feels like they set themselves up perfectly for the "celebrity adopts minority/impoverished child for publicity" route but then just didn't.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

I feel like that premise works better if it’s live action, since you have the cute kids as a selling point

[@Mangacide]

That's what I was thinking too. It would have tied in perfectly with the controversy that made her have to retire.

[@bthsr7113]

@@Mangacide And by the end of season 1, she realized that she genuinely cares, and starts to actually TRY being a good mom, possibly turning down a way back in to the industry. Boom! You have a character showing growth, reflection, and compassion. Things that shows like Family Guy and Simpsons can't/won't do as they are now consigned to plot of the day episodes before hitting the reset button at the end.

[@zachkrake7169]

I think Allen Gregory kinda kneecapped that possibility

[@mekhie.r.duncan3825]

@Josh the Joshey Boii what does that have to do with the comment

[@dcguevara]

"Why would these selfish people have kids?" Let me tell you. I was a teacher for only two years, and my heart goes out to teachers everywhere, because one of the saddest things about being a teacher is realizing how many narcissists have children just so they can create mini versions of themselves. These types of parents often see their children as extensions of themselves instead of individuals. Either that, or they often have this vision of "completing the set" as in to have a complete & full life, they often see kids as a part of that instead of just wanting them because they have a desire to be parents. It's sad.

[@dfquartzidn6151]

Basically, narcissists are people who have problems and instead of trying to fix their problems, they try to do things that cause more damage than good.

[@rexana_rexana]

They also want children to control them, to have someone fully dependent on them. Its gross

[@Sleepy_Apocalypse]

Your comment was very enlightening. As someone who periodically babysits, and who is around kids often I can definitely see what you're saying.

[@gregnulik1975]

Yup, a show about parents that really want to just create glorified clones of themselves. Gross.

[@kyrohowe3156]

@Riorozen please don't remind me, I already know what you mean 😔

[@anneonomous4910]

Honestly, I feel like this could be a lot funnier if Rudy had adopted the two kids for a better PR move. She's not retiring/quitting her job, she's only taking a break until media outrage dies out. Put her agent as a character who insists that Rudy has to raise the kids in order to get the media back on her side

[@Jonkin715]

See, that idea works a lot better. It sounds like a natural premise for Rudi.

[@HannahDecember]

Rudy ends up loving the kids and she doesn't want to admit it. She can commit to horrible actions but she'll never hurt her kids. And she'll threaten anyone who hurts them. This makes Rudy redeemable so it gives as a reason to root for her. And if you're main character is going to be an asshole they need someone to care for. Just to show they're not devoid of empathy.

[@Jonkin715]

@@HannahDecember that will be key; no matter what Rudi does, she would NEVER intentionally harm either child. In addition, Rudi and that blonde chick (I forget her name) could bond and become actual friends over time.

[@matsukukissu436]

add character arcs that pay off and I'm sold

[@anneonomous4910]

@@Jonkin715 I think it would really pay off too if she started as an asshole who's abrasive, is out all night partying and drinking, all in all neglecting the only thing that can save her job. Have one of the kids do something that sets her off and as she storms to her room she talks to the agent/bodyguard about a terrible experience from her childhood that she feels blame for because she did the same thing. The kids overhear her and understand her more, and the agent gives her the levity that the kids are innocent and not responsible for her past, and that she's responsible for their futures. She starts trying to better herself and even starts going to AA meetings for stability. Let her stumble, let her fail, but always let her learn after she does. Give the kids depth and make their reactions to the situation reasonable, including their initial joy and hope only to be reluctant and doubtful, to then grow slowly into trusting her as she's growing to care about them. People don't need to be perfect, they just need to be real. The world is full of moral ambiguity and I think a portrayal of this could be so good. Especially at the inevitable end, where she gives up on the career and takes a humble job to have a real family without the glitz and glamour. After a cool arch as well Agent ends up becoming their significant other since the kids basically view them as a parental figure to begin with (given they're the only responsible one, even if they're cold).

[@lazyperfectionist3978]

"why would these selfish people have kids?" I wish I had your innocence, there's way too many parents like Rudi and even worse than Rudi than you think there are...

[@ClockworkOuroborous]

So they can have someone that they feel has to love them in spite of themselves.

[@connorhart7597]

Rudi is my mother in law. Cares way more about her image than actually being a mother to her kids.

[@MrJamaigar]

For their ego's sake, mostly. Children of narcissists are like mirrors their parents see themselves in. If they don't try to mould their kids after themselves, they'll treat them like a chore, instead. Just one more thing to take care of. And don't be expecting a narcissist to put their kids' needs before theirs. Let alone make sacrifices for them. Sometimes, if they're lucky, the kids get parents who care enough to treat them more like pets than children. 😔

[@SolarmatrixCobra]

@@ClockworkOuroborous truer words have never been spoken. I grew up with narcissistic parents, and this speaks to me on so many levels.

[@Colorado290]

"Why did these self centered people have kids?" They use kids for attention, as accessories, some weird idea that kids are pets 2.0, investment in their retirement by hoping one makes it big, couples think it's the "next step", to gain a one up on their family and friends, etc etc

[@rabidfox1179]

Oh shit, how do you know my parents!?

[@richardfitzwell4618]

So you mean I should return the leash and collars for my kids?

[@k96man]

Sounds a lot like my cousin

[@Kygaahh]

Don’t forget the smooth brain Midwesterners that think babies save relationships.

[@beondinsane905]

@@Kygaahh right idk why people think that

[@Akalim]

"Why do selfish people have kids?" 1. Narcissists are shagging 2. Money/tax dollars 3. Support 4. Emotional support 5. Image 6. Control The list goes on

[@Here_is_Waldo]

Too lazy to reach for the condoms seems to be another. Or just assume since they get married kids are expected, as if it's some of tradition rather than responsibility.

[@davidspring4003]

Don't want the stigma of having an abortion

[@FangirlismDetected]

Too many people think that having kids = happy life, only to be disappointed and realize that 99% of the time having kids won't fix your already failing marriage/relationship

[@Dargonhuman]

@@FangirlismDetected It doesn't help the confusion when delusional parents keep preaching that having kids was the best thing that ever happened to them, it gave their lives so much meaning, blahblahblah. The inherent flaw of that particular argument is the majority of parents who say that always _wanted_ to have kids and centered all of their life goals around that concept as if it were an inevitability, whereas other people who prioritize other goals and aspirations over having kids don't have that mindset and don't realize that the parents proselytizing procreation (unintended alliteration is TIGHT!) always planned to have kids. The result is someone who never wanted kids and who never had a plan to add kids to their lives finding themselves in over their head as they try to balance their previous life goals with the needs of raising children to chase some ethereal concept of "happiness" and not realizing that it's actually impossible to balance both things.

[@skycastrum5803]

@@Dargonhuman Calling those parents delusional is wrong though, unless they’re claiming it’s also best for everyone else. If it was the best thing ever for them, then it still was, “for them.” Framing it as preachy sounds like a personal problem.

[@StraightestDakregor]

"There are lots of bad fathers in television and, you know what? We'll show them that women can be assholes too!" -The producers probably, not noticing the problem

[@jennifervan75]

Lmao

[@Star_II3S]

Well then ig they didn't know Karens exist

[@LassBisharp]

Hah.

[@oreoloki8872]

@@Star_II3Snot every Karen is a mother, just assholes

[@acedelta12]

I had honestly thought that "Mother Up" was going to be a series about a mom who constantly has to deal with her chaotic family. I was dead wrong.

[@JasminMiettunen]

It could easily go into “boring mom and the adventures of her more interesting husband and kids”, like The Simpsons from Marge's perspective. I don’t know where the line between making the female main character a complete asshole and the boring foil for others adventures would be, but I'm not a screenwriter. I wish an actual writer would actually try to strike that balance and write a fun, adventurous mom with her chaotic kids.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

Did you regret watching it?

[@acedelta12]

I never did. This review is all I know of it.

[@oreoloki8872]

Wrong. It’s a family who deals with their chaotic mother

[@ShortHax]

Now I want Saberspark to do a video on Spongebong Hemppants, it was a blast, for 3 episodes...

[@Luphirasoul]

THAT just unlocked some repressed memories I didn't know were locked away in my brain

[@lathanfitzpatrick3531]

Aren't you family-friendly?

[@cian.o]

I thought that the Patrick was dirt and that their eyes meant that they were tired all the time.

[@monkeystuff661]

Dude why do I keep seeing you in a lot of comment sections

[@benjaminpritz994]

After That can we have him review Spongeknob Squarenuts

[@Phenn420]

I cant remember where I read or heard this but the phrase " every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child" stuck with me for a while

[@pip8899]

Same..

[@BinglesP]

1,000th like and yeah that fits

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

What if the child is someone like Cartman?

[@dumpanimator]

​@@ARCtheCartoonMaster well that was no a big no But that was how his parents treat cartman so that how cartman grow

[@TheHuskyK9]

If your show is a “female version of X”, “male version of X”, “gay version of X”, etc then it’s doomed from the start. Don’t make shows solely to be a ripoff, at least try to be original

[@animelover_1012]

Would this include fanfiction?🤔

[@oatmealman1586]

@@animelover_1012 yes

[@GarkKahn]

At least fanfics don't try to make money with it...

[@alexcunningham1647]

Only if it's not very unique

[@sam4gaming135]

@MR.CLAW97 nope, most gay people do notice it, (the high praise comes from media) as there's literally a term for it "queerbaiting" as it's called,

[@skelemama]

The art style looks like something you would see in the 2000s.

[@marschallblucher6197]

Reminds me of Detentionaire. Which was animated in flash. But it made up for the low quality animation with good writing and characters.

[@Starribruins]

@@marschallblucher6197detentionaire was BANGER

[@Spid3rL4dy]

giving me 6teen animation style vibes

[@nakenmil]

I mean, so does the Simpsons and Family Guy, lol. Do you mean it looks like Flash Animation?

[@davestube85]

sealab

[@THExWASP]

usually when shows or movies are advertised as "the female version of _____" or focus on gender/sexuality instead of what makes it original/different, they pretty much always fail

[@queerlibtardhippie9357]

Most shows and movies fail anyway so that doesn't really mean anything

[@Nakia11798]

You hear about Q-Force? Awful.

[@laurenhodges6411]

Girl Ghostbusters.... RIP

[@flarestorm9417]

Well, I think advertising something by directly referencing another property tends to be a bad idea in general. Not only does it do a disservice to the creative crew, it turns away some people from the get-go. - If someone likes the original property, why would they watch (possibly inferior) clone of it, when the original is right there? - If someone doesn't like the original property, why would an imitation catch their interest? Logic would follow that if they dislike the original, they'll dislike the copies as well. - If someone is a fan of a given genre, but does not like that specific franchise, then why would they watch an imitation that'll be inflicted with the same flaws as the original?

[@starboy2581]

@@Nakia11798 I did and I Hate it

[@Da_Baron]

Jesus, Saber, you asking "Why did these self-centered people have kids?!" has led to so many sad and revealing comments down here.

[@chrisrockett5897]

Yep, it's kinda a hellhole down here.

[@infinitedragonbellyx.x]

I cant imagine parenthood being anything other than a completely selfish endeavor.

[@jbdbibbaerman8071]

@@infinitedragonbellyx.x well get out of this comments section and you might be able to

[@infinitedragonbellyx.x]

@@jbdbibbaerman8071 that makes no sense nor any correlation.

[@jbdbibbaerman8071]

@@infinitedragonbellyx.x it does. The comments section is full of people who are sharing stories these kinds of parents. You replied to a guy pointing this out. It is directly related. If you didn't read the comments here, you might be able to see decent parenting somewhere else

[@BaeCat872]

"Theres no female representation in adult animation, so we made one" "She has a very male energy" I just... how did she not hear herself?

[@DracoMagnius]

Either she was trying to appeal to a perceived audience that would want a female lead with "male energy" or more likely she wasn't really thinking when she said that and just kept going.

[@garnetBUNNIES]

@@somercet1 why bring feminism apart of this?

[@nbucwa6621]

@@garnetBUNNIES These kinds of people are always obsessed with feminism. Must be so much fun at parties.

[@aquamarinerose5405]

I think that she had.. SOME kind of idea... Like she knew she wanted to break the mold of what female characters in animation are supposed to act like... and peoples' first idea of how to do that is to make them act like men for some reason.

[@Ralathar44]

@@garnetBUNNIES It's already a part of it the moment they took a show type that's not inherently gendered and then say "it's like x, but for women!". Case and Point: Roseanne. I know she's all canceled and shit these days but that was a fantastic family oriented sit com that managed to both be pretty real to life alot of times and also still be remarkably entertaining and it was female led. The family sitcom is not a gendered genre, live action or animated either one.

[@jbleichman]

“When your SHOW gets CANCELLED after ONE SEASON, what will you HAVE?” “Y-you, Peter...” “Heh-eh-eh-eh-eh-eh... we did the thing from the show.”

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

"Why would two individuals obsessed with themselves have children?" Children of narcissists: 👀

[@Sleepy_Apocalypse]

Deadass why I won't have kids. Too damned selfish and in love with myself lol

[@AbsoluteGorbSupreme]

@@Sleepy_Apocalypse bro I get you

[@samanthawhite2801]

Im going to cry :(

[@Sleepy_Apocalypse]

@@AbsoluteGorbSupreme Respect brother. Love the name👍🏿💯

[@FollowMe4REP]

@@Sleepy_Apocalypse Okay, but you and Saberspark I think might be the only people with that presence of mind. To my point, May I present: most parents

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

Well, them having kids could be an optics things, as they say. They didn't have kids because they cared about having kids; they had kids because it was good for their image.

[@Worm-revolver]

Or for tax reasons

[@AnkokuGG]

Or just the "pleasure" of doing it?

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Yeah.

[@Austmorg]

"Why would either of these individuals who are obsessed with themselves have children?" Idk, man. I've tried figuring that out with my own parents for the last 20+ years.

[@ms.yawhaw8831]

Blob blob

[@alissaandry1332]

"There's no female presence in animation" *stares in magical girls*

[@williamhumes7332]

Yes.

[@bread1882]

Every bandori character is female

[@flaetsbnort]

Not in US-centered adult animation, like Family Guy

[@jack1701e]

Powerpuff Girls, She-Ra, Teen Titans had great female characters, etc...

[@deviantartguy0]

For the next 200 years that saying will probably stick no matter what.

[@AlfonsoSRT]

"Is that how kids talk??" Me listening to every American cartoon show voice acting.

[@heatherfarewell6851]

Probably a very unpopular opinion but that’s how just about every Rick and Morty character sounds to me

[@JackieMReacts]

i had moments were i yell/talked because i couldn't figure out the volume yet

[@WalrusComrad]

@@heatherfarewell6851 that’s a actual design choice and makes sense for most characters like morty

[@shrodingerkat3296]

@@heatherfarewell6851 same. I honestly kinda dislike that show?

[@dx.feelgood5825]

@@JackieMReacts Felt that. I was born half deaf and learned to talk when I had to yell to hear myself. Even though I no longer am hearing impaired, I still do speak loudly just naturally. I suck at judging my own volume, which can be frustrating and drives me crazy in choir when I'm supposed to sing out.

[@RetroTaylor94]

"Why did these self-centered people have kids?!" Unplanned pregnancy, my guy. My wife's parents would tell their own children to their faces that they never meant to have them.

[@noelvyhnanek5951]

My parents told us that we weren't planned specifically, but that they were ready to have children. And they really were. They brought us up right.

[@moth300]

Wouldn't abortion be an option?

[@兽Arufisu]

Thats dark

[@celticfury7328]

That explains the first accident with "Chad the boring assed Venture Capitalist"...but two back to back, with the same dry, uninteresting narcissist as a sperm donor? Not buying it for a second. Maybe if the ridiculous rapper stereotype fathered one of the unwanted progeny, during a coke and Crystale fueled one off romp with his overpaid self serving promoter...that might work!

[@52andattitude48]

@@celticfury7328 True, I always think the first child can genuinely be a surprise but not the second

[@raven800plays]

lawn service: "oh you're recording now? allow me to sing to you the song of my people!"

[@Gadgetman1989]

Or just waking up? I call the leaf blowers they use the horns of hell

[@fayeissilly222]

i used to watch this show when i was around 9 or 10. the fact that even a 9yr old couldn’t laugh at this either is sad

[@TStamp-lw4ku]

I’m in my 20’s and I think the show is great. You shouldn’t use your personal experience as a blanket statement for a tv show

[@fayeissilly222]

@@TStamp-lw4ku i didn’t??? it’s literally a opinionated statement and i thought i made that obvious

[@TStamp-lw4ku]

@@fayeissilly222 you used your own experience to legitimize the Criticism that the dude making the video was making by implying that if a child and an adult didn’t like it then it must factually be bad. You can pretend this isn’t what you were doing but it’s obvious

[@fayeissilly222]

@@TStamp-lw4ku uuh???? ok ur making me uncomfortable imma stop interacting

[@seaweednori7652]

@@TStamp-lw4ku they didn’t and it’s extremely obvious but ok

[@rabbitlady72]

Rudi be like: I'm not like other women, I ✨ neglect my children ✨

[@sleepieststella]

Rudi walked so Lusamine could run

[@tuopsy]

@Kh4Life arab moms abandon their kids?

[@malokaaaisawerdio1944]

@Kh4Life Um, don’t generalize my guy? I’m a arab and sure my mom isn’t the best but no mom is great. Don’t be like that.

[@Knight_Dragon]

@@sleepieststella *WHEEEEEZE*

[@otakumangastudios3617]

It almost feels like the show is made for karen's, with Karen characters in it. I mean, they're narcissists, right?

[@Izunundara]

"Why would such selfish, self-centered people have children" Oh boy, you haven't met that kind of person. People that have kids as TROPHIES. To them the kids exist to do nothing but aggrandise THEM.

[@shelbyshaper]

Literally, my father is a raging narcissist and we only exist to be shown off in public and we only become useful and talented when it helps him in some way :)))

[@k.umquat8604]

@@shelbyshaper I feel sorry for you. I hope you're OK

[@jhoughjr1]

well in the future, those people that had kids will be around via their genes. All you edgy boys will be removed from the gene pool.

[@k.umquat8604]

@@jhoughjr1 it's not like they care

[@jhoughjr1]

@@k.umquat8604 True but still the law of nature. C'est la vie.

[@theawesomestuff2408]

"Why would either of these selfish individuals who are obsessed with themselves have children?" Saberspark has never met my parents.

[@squidcultist0022]

Allos be fucking

[@vanadium8865]

I’m sorry

[@TheBlahblah86]

My condolences. I know enough people to know you're not alone...

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

Same here :/

[@yorgiP]

If anything, I feel like selfish and narcissistic people are more likely to have children

[@rosyowl0391]

Saber's rant about the lawnmowers had me rolling lmao.

[@JohnSmith-rb5iv]

Saberspark: *Records* Lawnmowers: “It’s showtime”

[@bijantehrani4325]

😂🤣

[@SegaDisneyUniverse]

If the lawnmower decided to interrupt during the sponsor section of Saber's video I'd be happy.😆

[@warlordofbritannia]

-Also, motorbike drivers and ambulances

[@lancer434]

That rant was amazing

[@thebossetrino9352]

It's lawnmowing time *

[@X_Blake]

Mickey: Saberspark? Do I own him? Random worker: not yet sir.

[@Anonymous-tg1fs]

Lol

[@RLambkin]

Try back in 5 minutes haha

[@babbu1688]

I just remembered south park

[@yuutaruu4242]

They'll put it on the "to acquire list".

[@chrisbj5251]

Its just a matter of time Disney buy google = youtube.

[@rhodrage]

Whenever anything is called "This thing. But for women" it makes it seem like the original wasn't already for women. And that's just bizarre to me.

[@Dargonhuman]

I'm not a fan of Family Guy like, at all, but I've never heard anyone from the fandom or even who make the show ever say anything exclusionary about their women fans. I've talked to just as many women fans of the show as I have men fans and not one of them has ever complained about inclusivity or problems with representation. So for a "clone show" to lean on that "...but for women!" marketing smells to me of virtue signalling and so-called "woke culture" that never really seems to find much success.

[@jhoughjr1]

esp considering lois nad francine arę better characters than Peter griffin.

[@jessip8654]

It's kind of insulting too, like it's implying that women are too dumb for Family Guy, so we need our own Family Guy, * For Her *

[@TheUltima_Werewolf]

Yeah it's weird

[@9Maciej]

I'm just here wandering, why women would even want to have "their own Family Guy".

[@lovefromwonderland]

I feel like Hulu really needs to push their animated content more. I seriously didn’t even know that this show existed. This is a chance for other platforms besides Netflix to blow up.

[@JeremyLeePotocki]

Sablespark: Does Disney own my channel.... A mousey voice in the shadows: Ha ha not yet!

[@skootergirl22]

It won't be long until Disney buys youtube

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@skootergirl22 but first they're going to have to deal with Google

[@skootergirl22]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 they will buy Google

[@thememeestfilmbuff]

*This is the closest we’ll get to a Karen show.....* And honestly I’d like to complain to the person who made this.

[@lucifersatan4611]

Ok well I’ll first say that I am sorry for making this show.

[@__jonbud______________________]

It was hard to get through the pilot episode. Sometimes the manatees just randonly pick a set of balls that doesn't seem very enjoyable.

[@Pacbandit13]

Let me see their manager

[@JerseyDevils21]

@@lucifersatan4611 bless you Satan

[@WhiteIndoraptor]

@@lucifersatan4611 eh I’ve seen worse so it’s fine

[@matyera2508]

"Is that how kids talk? I-I don't even know" Ah yes, Saber was born an adult.

[@goodolrainbowpet]

i mean... most of gen z sound like they speak a different language... and im part of gen z so that tells ya something

[@keona5560]

Saber is the Trunchbull

[@caranostalgico9249]

@@keona5560 Lol, that's funny I was watching Matilda today...

[@vivianjames357]

Right? It's like he forgot he was a fucking kid.

[@Graknorke]

He was a child like twenty-something years ago, the man's getting on in years let him me

[@caittails]

It’s super sweet that you’re confused about two incredibly selfish people having children. That does not surprise me at all, but I work at a public school and at LEAST 80% of parents, probably closer to 90%, seem like they could star in this show.

[@AnIllinoisan]

I think the problem is when shows say they want to be “Family Guy: for X” instead of trying creates stories on their own merits. I don’t think people want “Peter Griffin, but a lady”. One is enough for all of television lol

[@jovenc4508]

I mean, Cleveland Show gave us "Peter Griffin, but black" and no-one complained.

[@JT5555]

@@jovenc4508 it got canceled,so i'm sure SOMEONE did.XD

[@jovenc4508]

@@JT5555 Got cancelled after 4 seasons so I don't think the problem was a black Peter.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@jovenc4508 Bruh like 80% of Family Guy fans hate it. Even some of the Family Guy staff hate it.

[@jovenc4508]

@@ExtremeWreck Apparently someone liked it to approve 4 seasons of it.

[@jasdanvm3845]

Why would self-centered, selfish, and actually not interested in taking responsibilities - people have children? Geez, I don't know, but it happens all the time in real life!

[@TheEnabledDisabled]

watched alot of r/entitledparents and this is true

[@gabrielpineirogarcia2078]

"Theyre either the wife or the mother" Idk man, to me Marge is a character on her own, not just "homer's wife". And more times Than not she shines as a model of independent woman.

[@xakirax_8864]

exactly

[@BisexualG00SE]

I was gonna say

[@Jonkin715]

The thing is that in cases like "Family Guy" and "American Dad", the husband was the main character, but the wife became her own entity, able to even be the lead in several stories.

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@Jonkin715 One of the greatest episodes Family Guy of all time is Customer of the Week. Also Last No L.

[@halfdemonprince]

But a lot of the time, her character gets retconned, forgotten, or ignored since no sane “independent woman” would stay married to someone like Homer. How many times has Marge gotten a job, hung out with a new group of friends, and picked up an interesting hobby only to reject all of that because she wasn’t giving 100% of her attention to her family and Homer is literally too incompetent to be by himself?

[@DirectorOfChaos9292]

I'm damn happy I have the most loving mom I could ask for. She raised us very well and shows us nothing but kindness

[@waterdhavian_wizard]

"why would these selfish people have kids?" having grown up with a narcissist mother while also being engaged to someone in the same boat, there's really only one word for it: power. narcissistic parents often feel the need to control something or someone, thus they control their children just so they can have that sense of power. granted, i am not a parent and certainly don't speak for all [good or bad] parents out there, so i can't outright declare that narcissist parents don't love their children. it's very likely they do, but that's not the issue. the issue is how they tend to use said love as some kind of guilt trip when you realise the kind of abuse they put you through, and potentially the abuse of others around you. they clamour on about having done the bare minimum (clothes, food, etc) and fail to realise that if they hadn't, they'd go to jail. worse yet for them, their children would be taken away from them, and they would ultimately lose the only person(s) they could completely control. i cannot tell you how many times my parents have used that shit on me.. and how meaningless it actually was each time as i got older. for the longest time, i believed the only way my mother expressed her love for me was through gifts; she couldn't be bothered to hug me when i got older. and just recently, she had the audacity to ask me to lie on paper for her (saying i live with her despite kicking me out when i was 16) just so she could buy a house, claiming it would be a better future for my brother. it made my stomach turn: my mother needed me, and my brother was depending on me. except that wasn't the case at all. when i finally told my dad and stepmother about it (who are just as bad as her), they were pissed. i'm only turning 19 this august. if i cosigned this, my life would be ruined; my credit score would plummet. finally, i stood up to her and said no. she hasn't spoken to me since, which is fine. *** tl;dr, selfish, narcissistic parents only want children so they may control them for their entire lives, and may even go so far as to use them just to save their own asses.

[@the90sbrain]

Glad you stood up for yourself. It's a tough road surviving narcissistic families and lovers. I left my abusive relationship with my mother and family 7 years ago. I'm 27 going on 28 in a few months from now. I didn't think I would be free but I did it. So congrats, it's one of the toughest things to overcome.

[@waterdhavian_wizard]

@@the90sbrain thank you so much. i don't know if i can ever leave her though, at least not any time soon. i have a little brother, but neither of his parents are great. his dad was sent to prison a week before he was born, so. i plan to stay in touch until he has his own phone at least. and i'm really happy to hear you got out of that situation as soon as you could. you deserved that liberty.

[@the90sbrain]

@@waterdhavian_wizard thank you. It's thoughtful of you to stay in touch with your brother until he is set at least. Narcissists love isolating and brainwashing their victims to be pitted against others, especially someone like you, who fought back. My mother and her sisters turned my entire family against me when I took my last stand. They took everything from me and abandoned me in the apartment my mother and I lived in, hoping I'd starve to death and give up since I was confined to my wheelchair at the time. I had to figure out how to do everything on my own in a short period of time with little direction back when Google wasn't as helpful as it became. After all these years we talked 3 times in 2018. Small forced banter and a laugh. Her compliment was, "I'm surprised you are still alive. You lasted longer than I thought you would". Confirming she was trying to indirectly kill me back then. I haven't looked back or yearned for her affection since.

[@waterdhavian_wizard]

@@the90sbrain it's fucking devastating and horrifying how real life villains exist in plain sight like this.

[@the90sbrain]

@@waterdhavian_wizard Yeah, it's even worse realizing how many people are like this today. It's a trend to be evil, fake, and apathetic. The more time passes on I understand why elderly people are accepting of death. It's a release from this Hell.

[@sterling7]

"What if we did [popular show], but for [demographic x]?" "You mean, 'what if we made an inferior copy of something because it's popular, limiting our viewership, and then limited it further by explicitly pitching it exclusively to a particular audience?' Capital idea. Someone buy this executive more drugs."

[@squidcultist0022]

Tv_under_Capitalism.jpeg

[@ethribin4188]

Perfection

[@Cheepchipsable]

Plenty of successful show started out as copies of another show.

[@shgurr]

tuca and bertie is great :3

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Absolutely. And way more empowering to women than this dreck.

[@marimationsowo]

hey shgurr!

[@tannerwilson4843]

Great to see you Shgurr, it’s been a while. Do you have plans to get your channel going again?

[@Ralathar44]

I liked it alot but I found the last 1/3rd of the season to be much weaker than the first 2/3rds.

[@Orangemo]

@@lordfreerealestate8302 You like Bless the Harts

[@shmoogit]

5:08 a really good example of a character like this is bender from futurama. he is a kleptomaniac and is narcissistic but hes a very likeable character

[@fsu7482]

He also has good quality and isn't a complete dog turd of a human being

[@tmt36999]

If Mother Up came out today I feel like it would be more popular especially with Karen’s and stuff becoming mainstream

[@tmt36999]

Also one of the production companies for this show was Mass Animation which at one point was working on a blazing saddles parody for kids

[@yaboimccoy8109]

Don't forget all the #girlbosses and other trendy buzz words that invoke female empowerment that we'll all cringe at in 5 or more years

[@stevensuarez6564]

I see mother up, picking up and possibly getting rebooted on adult swim.

[@matthewbraith0411]

" Karen’s" don't exist, it's something the internet made up.

[@zamiaramirez1390]

Nah id get torn apart for trying to portray a horrible wine mom stereotype. The only reason family guy has gotten that far is an established base of oh its just like that but any show that attempts the same humor gets booted immediately

[@mav6857]

Hey Saber! There’s this animated movie called Birdboy: The Forgotten Children that I think you might like. It’s right up your alley in terms of dark/adult animation :)

[@steviecopeland]

Oh jeez not birdboy

[@thema1998]

@@steviecopeland Is it bad? 🤔

[@bornana269]

@@thema1998 if by bad you mean depressing, then yea

[@pendarazaripoor4296]

@@thema1998 not AT ALL. Animation is unique and visceral (you'll get what I mean when you see it). The characters are interesting. But the movie is thoroughly depressing. I'd recommend it if you're into more mature animation.

[@pendarazaripoor4296]

We should tell steve reviews to watch it. It's perfect for him

[@vineheart01]

"why are these selfish people having kids" dude....like 90% of parents these days fill that question out...

[@Nakia11798]

Not "these days", just in general.

[@jessevasquez1239]

Remember the Royal family? Yeah.. that's just the famous historical figures.

[@anitamihholap5926]

@the hevy where's the lie, though.

[@blarg2429]

@the hevy ok boomer

[@DanielBoyMan1]

2:10, thats everyone. You try to do something and someones like "you know what, im gonna cut my grass today!"

[@air_dealer]

Drinking Game: Take a shot every time you see a Family Guy clone that has failed

[@CoolerMike]

We're not responsible if you have liver failure by the 4th show

[@steelungol4373]

This challenge should come with a warning label.

[@Anonimo-xj1gx]

This is not a Challenge is a death sentense

[@RealValkor]

@@CoolerMike liver failure makes more sense

[@__jonbud______________________]

Why make a game of it? The pilot episode of Mother Up made me want to drink more than your game would... "Black goat sucker"... I'm going to go drink vodka and get that out of my head.

[@gagesherman8826]

"What's SaberSpark, do we own that?" "Not yet, Mister Mouse."

[@katesab5712]

“why would either of these selfish individuals who are obsessed with themselves have children” *first time?* edit: typo also steven9567 could you go back to the 50s pls i beg of you

[@willielogan4811]

Saber is a sweet summer child sometimes.

[@KyleRDent]

Ha, right? There are so many people out there that have kids just to be fashion accessories.

[@CreeketsCreek]

Yeah literally what i thought. That just happens in real life ALL the time due to society's pressure that you arent a real married couple unless you have kids

[@jadedheartsz]

apparently Saber isn't too familiar with how couples in real life can rush into having kids.

[@Steven9567]

@@CreeketsCreek thats the point of marriage though

[@MrBrick-qb1ji]

2:03 The lawn service watching this video: he knows to much, mission terminate Saberspark

[@Chimichimichi]

I thought she adopted the kids for sympathy. Trying to show she was a good person.

[@RisingRevengeance]

That too wouldve made more sense

[@Пинагод]

Too easy bro, if she did adopt them she'd feel compelled to return them and that would have backlash

[@nathanielnalls2578]

Omg evan that makes more since then them being her biological children

[@Ming1975]

"I love Lucy" was good because Lucy represents the average hard working American with no qualifications trying to make money in a comedic manner by brilliant yet stupid.

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Great example. Lucille Ball was brilliant, ahead of her time and a truly sweet heart.

[@JanArrah]

It also worked because it literally broke the mold at the time. Women were portrayed in shows and movies as being beautiful and glamorous and Lucille Ball was willing to get dirty and ugly for the joke while Ricky played the straight man. It was honestly just.. a brilliant combination. And we can't talk enough either about Vivian Vance, who gracefully aided Lucy and acted as her best friend vs her miser husband, Fred Mertz. Just a fantastic show and it just showed what an amazing talent they all were to make it work especially at the time.

[@DanDaMiniFig]

Ah yes, my favorite country: Canadia

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Canadia Stands!! The planet broke before the Guard did!

[@matcha6710]

I call it that all the time tbh

[@Usual_User]

@@DonVigaDeFierro For the Emperor!

[@oscarbelmare_22]

Alaska was once a Russian Colony and I like to call that area in that time ‘Russian Canadia’

[@michaelbadger3021]

@@matcha6710 ... I've called it Canadia for years.

[@m09ri]

Mother Up literally looks like those school app websites that they made you use to do the class work assigned- ✋😭

[@antibrainiacs]

Honestly not surprised, only "family guy Clone" I like is American dad, because at least the characters have there own personality- and I don't really think of it as a clone anymore tbh (btw for anyone I am calling it a "clone" because saber put it in the video)

[@cobaltprime9467]

Yeah American Dad really is a show on its own. It’s only similarities to Family Guy is a family and the art style.

[@TheBlargMarg]

I actually like American Dad more than Family Guy. It's more consistent to its overall story and feels more relevant to what story it is trying to say "American tropes and events" than Family Guy's randomness.

[@MarsGundam]

I prefer American Dad over Family Guy, AD characters are more than just foils for the main characters(in FG case Peter).

[@periflores1002]

That show was good up until they just used Roger for every other character

[@mostmelon]

I like American Dad because it’s turned into a show where literally anything can happen and hardly anyone questions it.

[@IRZ0327]

Not even Dom Toretto would approve of this family and say family is everything.

[@geovanyerazo2501]

Damn, that's the biggest insult you can give anyone

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

"Ohana means family". - Dom Toretto.

[@jasminedeadlymagmite]

He would be disappointed in anyone criticizing these families

[@mariahanover9335]

You ever get the feeling, when the actors and producers are trying to pitch the shows in magazine interviews, the only time anyone ever reads them is for video obituaries like this one?

[@RecklessInternetting]

Yes

[@IBonePokemon4Fun]

No

[@iguessmynamesriya7658]

What does this mean

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Perhaps?

[@JackieSkyKnight]

As someone from Canadia the way you said Saskatchewan was amazing. I know it's a hard pricier to pronounce but the way you did it made me laugh sooooo hard

[@AdachiCabbage]

"Why do selfish kids have kids?" Because they are selfish! They don't care like the guy who had 40 kids!

[@tinle9]

Excuse me he had *HOW* many?!?! Was it with some person, multiple people, adoption? No matter how you see it it just asks more questions

[@PhoenixArtz000]

@@tinle9 this shouldn't be that surprising, there was someone who had literally 69 kids (haha nice) BUT STILL IM NOT KIDDING THESE PEOPLE BE POPPING OUT DEMON SPAWNS FROM THE CROTCH BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT-

[@CommunicationsOfficer535]

@@PhoenixArtz000must’ve turned into a water slide at the 5th child

[@jonathandorn1691]

@@tinle9Johann Sebastian Bach had 20 kids (11 sons and 9 daughters)

[@berserker5551]

@@PhoenixArtz000cringe

[@catoticneutral]

The first Despicable Me movie is actually a solid movie, aside from the minions existing. You could probably improve Despicable Me by just cutting the less important Minion-heavy scenes.

[@phantomkrieger2744]

Doctor Venture is one of my favorite “Bad people are not bad characters” characters, the guy Is a narcissist, petty, egotistical, routinely kills people through his negligence, probably would get convicted of crimes against humanity and is overall pretty pathetic. But unlike his own father Doctor Venture actually cares for his boys and shows rare moments of legitimate compassion. You compound that with a well written three dimensional character with a host of inner demons and you’ve got one of my favorite characters in adult animation.

[@Oturan20]

I love Dr. Venture too. Wasn't he meant to be like a washed up parody of Johnny Quest? Like how Johnny would be years later?

[@SiRenfield]

Hell yeah Venture Bros. is one of my favorite TV shows of all time. And because someone will inevitably mention it because of my icon, Metalocalypse is another pretty good example of this (albeit maybe not everyone’s cup of tea did to how edgy it is)

[@nathand3468]

@@Oturan20 yes, although an actual washed up johnny quest actually appears in the show later on too. He and Dr venture attend a support group with like Astro Boy and the Hardee Boys

[@mrkitloin]

“Why do self centered people have kids?” Because the parents treat them like pets 2.0

[@torgeist.]

Horsin' Around seems to be a lot funnier than this show, i miss the 90s.

[@chrisbj5251]

Remember that 2007 revival? Didn't work.

[@lanceturley7745]

That's *too* much, man!

[@SamuelSEdme]

@@chrisbj5251 I thought the 2007 series was funny in a "so terrible it's hilarious" way if you catch my drift.

[@matt98785]

I don’t really like the guy that plays the Horse. Kind of a bitch

[@SamuelSEdme]

@@matt98785 I heard he allegedly enabled co-star Sarah Lynn's addiction. Pretty scummy guy if you ask me. Netflix was right to scrap plans for the reboot show.

[@tgaumond91]

It would be interesting to have a cartoon with a toxic mother figure as the main character. Mother up had potential.

[@CalsGirl97]

Absolutely, but when the focus is checking boxes instead of trying to write a good story then these shows are always doomed to fail.

[@Stonex180]

Peter: “boy this is worse than the time they tried rip us off with women” *initiate clips from Mother Up as a cutaway* edit: HOLY CRAP I NEVER GOT THIS MY LIKES BEFORE

[@chunkypuppy8967]

@Capricorn Hi

[@makotoyuki345]

Initiate the *whole* of mother up season as a cutaway

[@monkeystuff661]

Imagine if that girl from that Karen show mother up actually meet peter tho

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

The worst part is women like her are probably the norm and media popular nowadays. Horrible morhers who are as bad as Peter or Lois are now the average mother.

[@SegaDisneyUniverse]

Dang, now I feel like watching Family Guy! Haven't taken the time to watch it since I got rid of cable.😂

[@andrewb6194]

0:15 honestly, I’d say F Is For Family is more akin to KOTH then Family Guy

[@destinydoughnut8984]

It's Always Sunny is a perfect example of bad person =/= bad character. There's a reason that they're still going :)

[@liamwelsh4665]

“Suicide is badass!” ~God “WILDCARD BITCHES YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAWWW!!!” ~Best cowboy

[@nicholaswallen8147]

Yeah...danny devito lol

[@destinydoughnut8984]

@@nicholaswallen8147 also the great writing and acting!

[@mayhair]

wait it is?

[@fbichan9418]

Saber: "Why would these selfish people who only care about themselves have children???" Narcissists: First time???

[@zen0vi]

All I thought was "Oopsie babies exist" lol

[@perkon_]

I hated the "Family Guy" era. Where almost every show was similar or close to it

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Family Guy is a terrible influence to the animation industry, for real.

[@imlaughing2death]

Didn't help that half of them were made by Marfarlane himself. At least when Matt Groening makes a new show he does things to keep it seperate from The Simpsons.

[@AxxLAfriku]

I am the cool kid from Germany making videos for the USA and the rest of the world. I will make your day so don't say nay to me today, dear per

[@imlaughing2death]

@@DonVigaDeFierro I remember listening to the commentary for the South park episodes where they mock Family Guy as a running gag parellel to the main plot, and Matt & Trey said they got thank you letters from The Simpsons/King of the Hill writers for doing it.

[@icecreamhero2375]

I draw cartoons and consider family guy one of my mild influences. I don't make anything raunchy or edgy. I love its laid-back doesn't take its self to seriously tone and the fast pacing. I might throw in a cutaway gag every now and then.

[@HopePapernacky]

I actually really like the animation, especially in the intro.

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

Family Guy did seem to be aware about The Cleveland Show, since both shows do take place in the same world.

[@DumbArse]

@InfernoDelta it was still a much MUCH better show than Family Guy has been for years.

[@deaston18]

@@DumbArse which is why the show is still on the air, right? Ok.

[@iwatchhentaieverydaywithsenpai]

@@DumbArse ?? 😐

[@DumbArse]

@@deaston18 Family Guy is only still airing because of nostalgia, if they tried to cancel it millions of folks would cry and get it back on air (same with the simpsons). The cleveland show did not have this advantage so while it was better, even that better is not enough to keep a show on air

[@derrickhenry8559]

@@DumbArse lol ok

[@p3achy152]

Mother up looks like a show that would play on tvs in grand theft auto

[@jakewulgar]

It really does

[@DioDeezBrando]

Or on the TV of the Sims 4

[@TactlessC]

"Why would these selfish people have kids at all" Saberspark you know what an "Accident" is, right?

[@catinamask5019]

İ dont know man.Some gay people try to look homophobic so it will hide their gayness

[@neksnek2032]

@@catinamask5019 what does that have to do with anything

[@I_AM_THAT_GUY3]

@@neksnek2032 same

[@seaweednori7652]

@@catinamask5019 what

[@libraeevee9467]

@@ajvfajgryjelhywmbgh what?

[@Chaotic_evil_duck]

Lawn mowers:exist Saberspark:and I took that personally

[@calemr]

"How do we name our main character?" "Well, she's rude, so... Rude... Eee. Rudi."

[@ZephyrUltimate_]

That… is… *GENUIS!*

[@SeraliaAerials]

Anyone notice that in just about all of these shows, the lead wears a white shirt?

[@JackalopeBunny]

So weird I wonder why.

[@Destiny-wolf69]

It’s because they all have no taste

[@TheRealWaffles1]

@@JackalopeBunny ye

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Because Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin were meant to be parodies of braindead sitcom dads. The producers of this show decided to take the satire seriously.

[@21Arrozito]

Because they're typically men with office jobs, in which a white shirt with collar was the standard

[@soulcottage5302]

Saberspark: **records** Lawn mowers: and i took that personally

[@littlemissemila1818]

Nice

[@SpaceXen]

when I was a kid at night I would sneak into my living room and watch family guy and the Simpsons my dad woke up and started watching it WITH ME instead of yelling at me

[@tvcomputer1321]

you forgot about the granddaddy animated family sitcom -- the flintstones. flintstones did it.

[@peregry]

I was looking to make this comment. Like, Simpsons was specifically mocking the Flintstones and the Jetsons in many respects. Sad that those two classics are often forgotten.

[@tcrpgfan]

Flinstones did so much they branded vitamins.

[@nyettehforshort7131]

What makes me sad is, Tuca & Bertie is so underrated and they did an amazing job portraying women and just showing what is like to be a woman in today's society.

[@LookAtWow]

It was so good. Not just the writing but the animation was vivid, creative and just really cool

[@dr.claudiafinch1088]

@@LookAtWow And. . .It got canceled by netflix.

[@solblackguy]

@@dr.claudiafinch1088 I heard rumors that Adult Swim might pick it up

[@whowantstoknow1234]

@@solblackguy It did, a second season was made.

[@itskindofemily]

Tuca and bertie is so good

[@s.fflanger8747]

Saberspark, I need quiet to record. Neighbors, heh heh lawnmower go brrrr

[@virginiafernandez6846]

Landmower: ''I'm about to ruin this man's career''

[@darkmya19]

😂

[@Anonymous-73]

“There’s no female presence in animation” Well let’s see what we got here… Eliza Thornberry Black canary Wonder Woman Princess Leia Nala April o’ Neil Black Widow Scarlet Witch Captain Marvel Kidagakash 90% of Arcane *Feel free to add your own*

[@marioroz3142]

"Why would these selfish individuals who are obsessed about themselves have children?" IDK, that phrase felt so real, I have seen it many times.

[@savannahs.5874]

I've been in a narcissistic foster home where they didnt even take care of the kids, liked them, ect. They just adopted to get the money, use someone for chores, and brag to everyone else in their church group about how they're a better person than everyone else

[@stephentaylor356]

'Family Guy, but for women...' **Star voice actress talks about how much of a fan of family guy she is**

[@gazoofio]

I mean, I don’t mean to be a stick in the mud, but if they’re making a show inspired by family guy, wouldn’t they be fans?

[@stephentaylor356]

@@gazoofio if they were fans how are all of those shows not for them???

[@stephentaylor356]

@Mullerornis or...and try really hard to follow along here... Maybe family guy was for them all along because a particular genre of show doesn't belong to a single demographic and that thought process was exactly what Hulu was trying to exploit with this garbage. Maybe the real misogyny was coming from the people who thought family guy was 'not for women' even though plenty of women do enjoy it and that a special show had to be made for women to be able to enjoy it.

[@puppiekit]

@@stephentaylor356 just because you enjoy something doesn't mean it was made with you in mind. Plenty of 50 year old men enjoy my little pony, in fact they are a majority of the shows fanbase, but it sure wasn't made for them.

[@stephentaylor356]

@@puppiekit not being made with a specific demographic in mind isn't the same as not being for them. There's nothing that makes family guy 'not for women'. There's nothing preventing bronies from enjoying my little pony. So, I ask again, in what way is it not for them???

[@wretneck]

if Rudi was the legal guardian aunt, you can call it “Raising the Auntie”

[@grammarmaid]

Oh my god. Auntie Up or Upping the Auntie would have been incredible show titles. Why on earth didn't they jump on that? Oh, right. Because everything else about the show was an uninspired, missed opportunity.

[@natsunohoshi7952]

You mean like that movie "Raising Helen"?

[@NJGuy1973]

Too bad you weren't working for Hulu in 2013.

[@dreamieramune]

i actually used to watch this a lot when i was little and i completely forgot it existed. thank you for bringing back these memories

[@Dtoons]

I hope you review Bless the Harts!

[@sheracovington5877]

That show was surprisingly wholesome I love it so much

[@Orangemo]

@@sheracovington5877 It was cancelled after 2 seasons

[@Orangemo]

You know it was cancelled

[@nathanielnalls2578]

@@Orangemo atlases it got two seasons

[@millerthehunter3999]

yeah that one was interesting

[@Deconstruction_Administrator]

I don't think it's fair to count The Cleveland Show as a Family Guy clone, when it's an outright spinoff from it.

[@krisymac3514]

Yea. I agree

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Plus, American Dad was revealed later on to be in the same universe.

[@jovenc4508]

Cleveland show is a literal Family Guy clone, spin-off or not.

[@nickrustyson8124]

Also F is for Family is pretty different, there is more drama in F is for Family

[@wolfgangervin2582]

It's kinda like how H-B cloned their biggest show (Scooby Doo) several times.

[@biz0unc3]

It's weird how it tries to look like Archie and Erin Esurance at the same time.

[@starspeculation]

It's a nice-looking art style at least. A lot of western adult animation have kind of ugly art styles. Edit: (please don't spam me a big list of every adult cartoon that has a nice art style. I've probably seen them. I'm just talking about the majority of them.)

[@wafflefalafel9442]

I prefer the art style over many other adult shows (even if the animation is pretty choppy). I like how they don’t try too hard to be grotesque or cartoonish. It’s still not the best art style tho

[@roxassora2706]

Yeah, the MC gives me "Girl I saw in r34" vibes.

[@Jonkin715]

That is a good comparison.

[@Solanin0803]

Ahh, Erin Esurance. I forgot about her

[@bittertea3701]

Saber's cat watching him open the mattress as if knowing it's a stupid idea but wanting to see the disaster unfold firsthand

[@RockhopperRio]

"The failed girl version of Family Guy" Missed opportunity to call this video "Femily Guy"

[@morgianasartre6709]

Or "Family Gal"

[@mr.grunt_yt6419]

@@morgianasartre6709 or Femily Gal

[@shrek6723]

Femboy Peter Griffin

[@itsjustmolls]

and I oop-

[@IRZ0327]

The lawn mowers probably just needed to touch some grass after binging your reviews. And the noises are their prayers for your poor brain after viewing so much of these awful movies and shows.

[@realswobby]

"There's not enough of representation of leader women characters in media... so let's create a rip-off of a famous male character and give it a vagina" If this is the only thing that inspires these producers then honestly... I don't even want to know their creations exist. "We want to do something new but we're too lazy to actually get inspired" - then don't fucking do anything. Please.

[@danialyousaf6456]

That's what Hollywood's been doing for quite some time. Taking a movie or tv show starring a guy and copy paste it with a woman as the lead.

[@leandersearle5094]

@@danialyousaf6456 You forgot the BOGO on tokenism.

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@leandersearle5094 yeah.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Everyone rips everyone else off, so no real problem there. It can work, provided they write good jokes that actually sound like something a woman would say. Women do have a slightly different culture, so them saying stuff a guy would say just doesn't work.

[@OReily08080]

@@danialyousaf6456 right, it's just copy and paste, sequel, reboots

[@Canada1994]

I work at a grocery store and I feel the same way Saberspark does about the lawnmowers as I do when customers come out in droves when I do carts making me be outside longer. I also LOVE The Awesomes, Bob's Burgers, and I think Duncanville is ok.

[@AzmodeousNergul]

You do realize that self-centered people have children in actual life right? Not excusing the show from being bad, but it's a weird point to me.

[@morgianasartre6709]

Right? As if something as natural and common as that needs explaining.

[@gemink7939]

think the genuine disbelief is presumably from parenting morals (aka how saber actually views how parents should treat their kids and not necessarily how some parents may actually raise their kids)

[@craycraywolf6726]

@@morgianasartre6709 IT AIN'T NATURAL. Common but not. Natural. You okay?

[@morgianasartre6709]

@@craycraywolf6726 How is it not natural? Being self centered is the default state of humans and making kids is also like the primary drive of our instincts.

[@ineedaname5928]

@@morgianasartre6709 I mean there’s a difference between having a bit of an ego and then being full on narcissistic. But yes humans do normally have a bit of an ego.

[@pawkeshup]

The premise isn't bad, it's just poorly packaged. Here, I can fix it right now: Rudi falls from grace due to financial issues, not some moment like that. She had kids as a part of her stardom, but they were cared for by a nanny. The first episode could have been her moving in with a half-sister who has no fame and a normal family. Focus on Rudi becoming the live-in caregiver to both her own kids and her sister's, with her sister being that voice of rationality and good parenting.

[@Darkpq1742]

Saber spark in: "The Atack of the lawnmowers" - Animation never gonna be created by me