Where did “this is my safety” originate from?

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[@marksmith3991]

Stateside: safety In country: less safety

[@Motorboatmike]

No doesn’t matter if there’s more enemies no reason to have the safety on, you don’t know how many intruders there are till it’s over and you don’t know the situation till it’s over, gun won’t go off unless you pull that trigger, no reason to have the safety until you’re safe and everyone else is safe

[@StretchOnYT]

@@Motorboatmikew about this, indoors: no immediate safety reset, outdoors: safety reset. This way the troops can develop a muscle memory based on the environment they’re in. Then again in combat in my limited combat experience you are hyper aware and if you know there may still be a threat you aren’t going to turn that safety back on regardless until you have left any danger area of that is potentially harboring enemy troops. Its important to note however that I was using an AK-74 left handed and when I used to train on the M16 left handed that muscle memory was pretty well ingrained, but since I never used the M16/M4 I can’t know for sure how id be using it.

[@itb4255]

@@StretchOnYT Safety on the m4 is super easy to manipulate especially on the nicer rifles these type of guys are issued.

[@StretchOnYT]

@@itb4255 yeah I could also agree. Muscle memory is super easy if you do all your shooting contact drills but I guess we’d better look at the combat experienced SF guys of todays battlefields and see what they’re doing. Because when I think about shooting only in drills and safety on before an after each one seems a bit robotic to me. Or at least Im just thinking in the event of room clearing, you’d want safety off.

[@Ceej3]

Train how you fight.

[@chivalryremains9426]

"You have to remember to DISENGAGE THE MANUAL SAFETY" - Paul Harrell

[@jamsheed03]

RIP Paul 😞

[@thopkins2271]

Paul Howe explains the story a bit differently. The rifle was essentially in condition 3, safety off but hammer down, Mag inserted. Couldn’t physically be on safe. The incident happened as a bigger story of readiness on base, as only Delta seemed aware of the volatility of the environment and how unprotected they really were. Even suspected the Italians of dicking them to the locals. Rangers at the time were not the direct action superstars that the GWOT turned them into, and Delta was busy training them up as fast as they could as he mentioned, but there were tremendous obstacles placed in their way by leadership at the regiment still basically treating them as though they were in garrison and goofballs as opposed to in a supremely dangerous position. Some of those leaders later froze on the battlefield and undoubtedly cost lives as they were unable to mentally get into killer mode. It happened, but was in no way an endorsement of unsafe gun handling, and in fact was less likely to discharge than a loaded firearm on safe. Delta just wanted to have bullets in the damned guns and this was a way around silly rules at the time. The character was an amalgamation of two people, one of whom was Paul. I trust his version(though he wasn’t the guy in question.)

[@wecanjump7512]

Having been in the 82nd pre-GWOT, this version sounds spot-on.

[@509Gman]

Bowden got that into the book, too. The movie just made it into some funny horseshit.

[@ianthompson5678]

He says the same thing in this interview, its just not in this clip

[@thopkins2271]

@@ianthompson5678 Makes total sense. Haven’t watched this one all the way through yet. Probably was mostly speaking to the way people are interpreting it in these comments.

[@thegimpygamer]

Amazing how shit doesn't change. I was deployed to Iraq twice. First for the initial invasion and then again for Fallujah (got a Purple Heart in Fallujah). We too had some leadership that just made you scratch your head. Second deployment that got a hair up their asses about weapon accountability. A few Staff NCOs made it a point to constantly sneak around and try to steal a Marines rifle to show how he wasn't being accountable. One time I'm crawled in a hummer working on prepping our equipment for the next mission. Suddenly I got my leg jerked hard because some A-hole SSgt tried to make off with my rifle only he couldn't because I had wrapped my 3point sling around my leg just that purpose. He tried praising me for being aware, but took offense when I told him I was aware that some useless staff NCOs had nothing better to do with their time in a combat zone. One incident took the cake though. There was a Gunny who was leading the charge on this fuckery. He had guys on punishment details doing stupid shit like sweeping sidewalks in a windstorm in the freaking desert. Real grade A fobbit. This bag of douche decides to go for a run one morning. As he is getting himself ready he sets his pistol on the deck, gets done tying his go fasters, and just runs off. Dude left his own pistol on the ground after giving everyone else so much freaking hell over it. They tried to quietly ask around about it but they weren't able to hide it from all of us. For the rest of the deployment all leadership fuckery disappeared because it was only them that had ever be unaccountable for their weapon.

[@lancecorporalveteran0621]

Basic rule of keep your finger straight and off the trigger always applies regardless of the other rules Which is why we have so many saftey rules is because redundancy if one fails the other will hopefully save you.

[@DeathGodArgon]

Safety when stored, finger off trigger when drawn, and finger on when possible threat is confirmed. Gotta love how simple yet effective firearm safety is.

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

In the og scene, he had his rifle slung. Weapon should be on safe in this case. The real reason why the weapon wasn't on safe is because he was carrying a rubber prop rifle and the safety is permanently molded with the selector on "fire."

[@DerpASherpa117]

​@@atadbitnefarious1387 I agree. A pistol with a good holster covering the trigger with the safety not on is one thing, but if your rifle is slung over your shoulder bouncing around without the safety that's stupid and dangerous.

[@dananorth895]

​@@DerpASherpa117 yeah IDK.......

[@oliverallen5324]

The rangers I’ve trained with and the Delta guys like Pat Mac will tell you to put it on safe anytime it’s not being used. It’s a sign of professionalism and when working with men in tight spaces, manipulating guns behind each other’s heads, it’s the right thing to do.

[@bored2323]

It all depends on what a person considers “ not being used “

[@oliverallen5324]

@@bored2323 not using = not actively discharging the firearm at a threat.

[@rojayreid908]

no if you're in a combat zone keep the safety off, you don't know where enemies will come from.

[@greatcornholio5541]

Cops all carry their pistols with safety off round in the chamber…rack safe for the M4 is cleared and dry fired(lowers the hammer) weapon won’t go on safe if you wanted to unless you reset the trigger. Then they inserted a loaded mag into their weapon. If they needed to use it they just had to charge it and fire. Similar to a MG

[@JG-yc2fr]

I always got what he meant and anyone who's been in combat knows what it means

[@thopkins2271]

But the actual story has absolutely fuck all to do with not running the safety…. Paul Howe tells the story in detail and he’s one of the dudes that character was based on.

[@JG-yc2fr]

@@thopkins2271 absolutely. the initial part is great but then the back story giving it context and depth.

[@Just_chill_fool]

@@thopkins2271 side note, Paul Howe has an excellent book, Leadership and Training for the Fight.

[@user-sl4ul4nc3t]

You don't need to have been in combat to know he means his finger is what does or doesn't pull the trigger and make the weapon go bang. You aren't special.

[@JG-yc2fr]

@@user-sl4ul4nc3t never said I was dingus

[@Pwnasaur]

🎉i love this show, its such a fantastic job well done.

[@danbandito]

Lol then you got pat Mac saying he flips safety every other step 😂

[@thopkins2271]

I posted the full story by one of the dudes that character was based on elsewhere. Run the safety, Pat Mac is correct and the dude this was about wouldn’t disagree.

[@calebh7902]

Pat Mac is correct, only rifle I wouldnt constantly select safe/fire constantly would be an AK

[@jonnybgoode7742]

​@@calebh7902 meh not really...

[@Joben2112]

Pat isn’t in the same role now as he was back in the day. It’s a good habit. He’s training civilians and teaching that it’s a good practice when you’re doing drills with other people around that may not have the same level of training. NDs happen, find the vid of Travis Haley when he was shooting a vid with Panteo Productions.

[@jackbrightside]

​@@Joben2112that's makes the most sense to me. Especially police needs that extra step, they're not fighters, but peacekeepers/law enforcement. Soldiers are hunting enemies

[@irishdefense77]

I remember Norm Hooten well,and he always trained(like we all did)to be fast on and off safe-because Murphy is alive and well in combat.Would you want a skilled operator moving behind you with his weapon off safe?No,you wouldn’t-even if you trust him.Training takes a lot of the uncertainty out of reality,and you can easily operate your safety when moving and come off safe when ready to engage.

[@slappy8941]

Depends on the situation, but the point man is always hot.

[@Jazzman-bj9fq]

What happens if the lead man is hit right in front of you and you have that much less time to take the weapon off safe and shoot the bad guy? If it was me and I had men behind me that I trusted with my life every day then if they demonstrated the ability to not shoot me by mistake then I worry about what I'm doing and not them. Murphy IS alive in combat and just as a person can have an ND, they could get hiccuped (by good old Murphy) and delay just long enough to miss that shot they needed if I went down to a bad guy in front of me and now my life and the 2nd man's life is over. It's all in context meaning it depends on the situation. I'm not saying there is never a time to put your safety on but there are probably plenty times when putting the safety on is not a good idea if you and your buddy desire to live long. Of course I'm talking about guys who bust in doors and kill bad guys for a living on the regular, not talking about a non-trained individual or one with very minimal training.

[@getfragged7051]

If you’re in a stack second man and for some reason the point man didn’t identify a deadly threat and you are the one to notice his life is about to be ended in the next fractions of a second would you want to be hot? If we’re stacked up and your weapon should be on target in the moment you identify this threat I’d want you to be hot if I was the point man.

[@irishdefense77]

@@getfragged7051 well,this shows you have never been on an entry team.Your opinion is your own,but it’s not that of a trained operator.

[@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831]

One of the best lines from the movie

[@charleshurst1015]

I've got this in the PMI class I give (a Green Beret built the class, I can't take credit 😅). I always remind people that they control the weapon - everything else is a bonus feature.

[@michaellee4694]

My father was a 10th mountain ranger he got out of the military 2 weeks before the real events of black hawk down happened he knew a lot of the rangers personally.

[@alphamale4497]

I actually always wondered if people who are lm the thick of things even use their safety. I undertsand it’s a training thing but like anytbing in life actually doing can be very different than training application.

[@ChromeFrost]

Keep your booger hook off the bang switch

[@Bandit-co9xc]

until your ready to bring the hate.

[@nightcrawler6141]

@@Bandit-co9xc ; No hate: No emotion whatsoever

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Different units carry their weapons differently. As a USAF Aircraft mechanic, we carried safety off with an empty chaimber. "Rack safe". It's even more safe than loaded chamber with a thumb lever safety on.

[@Brokefootchuck]

Makes sense for those trades. Or the worst Hulk at mess in Hollywood. Not much else. NDs aren't ADs. Like negligent homicides or accidental homicides.

[@gtcam723]

I always figured the safety story was about Vickers because as I recall, he is a lefty. But there are couple things about this I hadn’t realized.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Keep your Booger Hook of The Bang Switch until you’re ready to do WORK.

[@rl1271]

I have a Bren 2 with modded 2lb trigger. Something that light id put the safety on even for breathing near it

[@officialmattsoupcampbell]

Right. And yet cadre/instructors a like will hound you about the safety selector

[@redeyedjedi7386]

Worked with a guy who was part of the black hawk down operation. I asked if he had a Hollywood star portray him, but he was a lowly background guy. Smart man too.

[@MrMicronano]

I always interrupted that as “if I’m not pulling the trigger my weapon is safe”

[@ethan....]

Interpreted?

[@nomnomfpv3136]

Congrats your got it right. He’s saying his safety is off when he’s pulling the trigger. When he’s not, the gun is safe. He’s also a Ranger in a war zone, so use your safety.

[@marksc1929]

Nice 👍🏻

[@arielrueda7258]

​@@nomnomfpv3136 Delta, but yeah, same point

[@hoosier_turtles_and_tortoises]

@@arielrueda7258he was a Ranger before CAG.

[@maxski6093]

I flip to safe if I’m in heavily wooded areas. You won’t believe how many times a bush branch snags that trigger well n the trigger when stalking pray like deer in the woods of Alaska. But in Iraq when it came to clearing buildings my mind n finger was my safety. Rushing the objective I’d be on safe but as soon as the team is stacking up behind me since I was the point man I’d always flip to fire from safe right before rushing in the building.

[@abrahamm1325]

The youtube firearm nazis are not gonna like hearing that, they wanna see you rack your slide/bolt 150 times to make sure its clear.

[@MikeMikeActual]

I agree, I too keep my selector switch on fire the entire time when engaging targets, room clearing, CQB, etc!! Now there are exceptions!! Switching from fire to safe all the time can develop into a bad habit & potentially get you killed because the enemy got the drop on you & you need to quickly remember to switch back to fire, all it takes is that split second of you playing with your selector switch to not make it back home!! There are few instances where you truly need that selector switch on safe!!

[@notgay5859]

What unit were you in

[@maxski6093]

The unit your moma doesn’t know who your daddy if from…

[@notgay5859]

@@maxski6093 damn that’s wild cause I was stationed in Alaska and I never saw you there

[@rangerbat9295]

My brothers. Amen.

[@kroneage]

It depends on the threat level, armament level, and predictability and/or unpredictability of the enemies or people of the environment you're in and what you're trying to accomplish

[@mrdune5479]

There were times I left the safety off and times where it went right back on. The issue with not putting it back on everytime is when you forget it's off. It's not hard to do. So we always trained to putt it back on after a controlled pair. But as a pointman I flipped it off as I was about to break the doorframe and it stayed off until cleared. There's not much time to play with in those cases

[@tomwilson1006]

He’s speaking of Norm “Hoot” Hooten who was a unit operator in Mogadishu. Happened in the chow line with a ranger captain, similar to the way it was portrayed in the movie.

[@jt8isgr870]

The best quote I ever heard in my two deployments to Afghanistan was "switch your safety to semi, we bout to get some"!

[@kabes1776]

Nice

[@HansBelphegor]

My iwi Jericho enhanced 90% drops to fire just by drawing it, by the time ive leveled it to shoot, its always hot.

[@flygulfstreamg650]

Keep safe off at all times and full Mag as soon as you can. The enemy has no safety zero

[@likebutton3136]

I drilled weapon up safety off weapon down safety on. it is done without even thinking about it now and it's off before the weapon is even completely raised.

[@ricktenter1631]

May want to look at Pat's thoughts. Not saying you're wrong but he gives a different perspective.

[@alexs1972]

I actually read somewhere on sofrep for one of those blogs that the real story stems from the SOP difference between how rangers would safety weapons vs unit guys. The rangers would remove mags and rack the bolt thne safety the weapon. Unit guys would do the same thing with the added check step of pulling the trigger on the empty chamber(pretty common practice in some competitions too). Anyone that's dropped the hammer on an m4 or AR platform knows if that hammer is forward, you can flip the safety selector out of the firing position.

[@hammer9151]

There is no safe in war or life, Be dangerous We needed And always be ready when the need arises Therefore there is no safe Unless that's the space you occupy when you don't challenge the perimeter

[@redneckaxeman1254]

Would love to see Norm Hooten on the SRS.

[@tangomantactical]

Eric Bana's line about his trigger finger being his safety, was the most non chalant ice cold line ever. I don't constantly fidget with my safety either. If I'm a green, my safety is off. My finger and my sit-wet are my safeties.

[@OvernightCountFraud2024]

Why I love my Glock. No manual safety just internal ones

[@archangel20031]

In the time it takes for you to flick the safety off I can use that time and effort to Simply pull the trigger. If the gun is going to come out of your hand then you put the safety on, like letting it hang on the sling, entering a transport, putting it down, things like that.

[@PeterRSCFF]

Safety is off before on target so what?

[@FiloYappins]

Safety for safe environments 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@D1337ThisGuy]

Many people obsessed with firearm safety tend to have a limited understanding of practical application. That's not to discredit firearm safety, but there is a time and place for everything.

[@alexxchavez1913]

Engaging and disengaging the safety immediately before and after hitting a target has become second nature to me and it’s something I can do as I’m still getting the platform on target. But by far the biggest safety mechanism is trigger discipline. I have be sleep deprived, hungry, oberworked, dirty sweat and overwhelmed where I just want to break and quit but couldn’t, where I wanted to just squeeze the trigger, the one time I swore I was seconds away from doing: my safety had gotten caught on my gear and switched to FIRE. I knew my safety was on at all times, but it was only trigger discipline that kept me safe and probably saved my military career, because the CSM was visiting us while we were conducting a DCP.

[@SuperMIKevin]

What movie are they talking about? I have been talking about the exact same thing but for trades, there are idiots out there who try to control absolutely everything we do in the trades and forcing this or that safety on us as if we are children. It's great that those safeties exist and yes we should use them, especially when it has to do with working in teams but we are not children, we know when something is important and when it's not, the handholding needs to stop.

[@chriswhite318]

Keep your booger hook off of the bang switch until you're ready to fire. Most defensive pistols don't even have a safety.

[@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz]

Weird, because lots of former Unit guys will stress that you should always put the saftry on when changing positions or reloading. I wonder if they're just saying that for classes or youtube so that idiots don't shoot themselves.

[@GGman2019]

Well yeah...those people are most likely will never need to shoot at someone/get shot at...a looooot of the people watching these videos are folks who fantasize some john wick scenario

[@pleasedontsayit8425]

Tactical Hyve-another channel I was watching cqb stuff with a delta cat named Dutch, who knows if that’s his real name but he was going on and off safe seemed like after each movement. He wasn’t off safe when he was in the stack.

[@WRMonger1]

Pretty sure that the rules learned at the range differ from real life. He’s correct, that split second or blink of an eye can be the defining moment of your existence.

[@Jack-xy5xq]

Unit guys are in the civilian world now and train civilians that have lawyers. Safety thing is part of everyone’s prerequisites now. Industry standards …

[@mforge348]

Trained with multiple Green Berets and they’ve all said don’t put gun on safety when doing emergency reloads.

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

The funny story is two fold. 1) It was common for guys to administratively carry their weapons with the hammer down on an empty chamber. So an onlooker will see the weapon is on "fire." And a crusty Sr NCO or Officer will comment on it, despite the weapon being unloaded. The M4/AR15 cannot be put on safe with the hammer down. 2) the rubber prop rifles used for filming had the "safety" permanently molded in the "fire" position. Even in combat, we are still trained to flip back to safe. Going from safe to fire is instinctive second nature for a professional. So the logic of "just leave it on fire" is not entirely sound and misses a lot of context.

[@bradleygonzalez1160]

Bro. Had a guy on a range do that “ this is my safety “. He ND’d. Dude was so full of crap. We used to clown on him for camo paint not being “hypo allergenic”

[@AAAskeet]

He was on a base if I remember right. Just put your safety on tough guy.

[@disturbedproject]

I remember hearing they carried their weapons with hammer down, empty chamber. Preventing the safety being able to go on safe

[@thopkins2271]

Correct. That was the actual story. It was because of rules on base and them skirting it. He absolutely ran the safety with a loaded gun. Paul Howe details the story and the reason why it was really a bigger debate about readiness on base as opposed to some cowboy shit.

[@Gurfi28]

It must have been something like this. Carrying a loaded rifle on your back with the safety off never makes any sense, no matter how delta seal beret high speed dude you are.

[@PeterRSCFF]

That’s what I read, too. That’s the condition of my stored weapons because of that story making so much sense to me.

[@aamake547]

To clarify, he's speaking about when you're engaging multiple threats, there's no need to put the weapon on safe in between targets. He's not saying you should be going room to room with that weapon on fire.

[@bitharne]

No he’s not; if you’re in an area with ANY potential threats your safety should never be on. So you definitely would be going from room to room with your weapon on fire 🙄

[@aamake547]

@@bitharne Go train with other organizations or classes like that. Let me know how it goes. Pat Mac and Tu Lam are also unit guys, see what they have to say about selector manipulation. Especially nowadays with a lot of people running sub 6lb triggers.

[@zenchiro6033]

Hoot!

[@Jordan-ce7sf]

I think the fact that the M4 family of weapons cannot be safety-engaged with the hammer down reinforces the speakers point

[@archangel20031]

I get a little chuckle every time I see those guys that as soon as they're done pulling a trigger they flick the safety on, safety off, safety on, safety off, safety on, like their fingers have turrets, and the funniest thing is you're so damn proud and arrogant about that being the only way to do it.

[@citizentactics5227]

You need to have Pat Mac on

[@bobbuilder5902]

Safety is on until I'm pulling the trigger. A good example is someone like Garand Thumb. That safety goes on any time that rifle goes to a low ready even if it's between targets.

[@austingriffith8148]

Could get you killed

[@dustindownard12809]

this.

[@haidarrossam2282]

Golden rule, If the gun is not pointed toward a target, safety on. Shifting between targets, keep the safety off !!

[@nox_chan]

With the bolt closed, hammer forward you cannot switch the safety from fire to safe.

[@Calvin1911]

He also says this within the podcast. It just got cut. 👍🏻

[@jeffb735]

Straight up tho if I'm getting shot at my safe ain't moving no way

[@AirborneAnt]

Slip and fall then blast yourself cause gun on semi finger on the trigger lol

[@snorkeldorktheconqueror9580]

Its like do you carry with one in the chamber? Well that kind of defeats the purpose of carring a firearm. Do you get time to rack a round. Or do you pull it out and throw it at them.

[@Mr-Damage]

Behind the wire, safety on. Outside the wire, safety off.

[@234jamaica]

Friendly Fire entered the Chat

[@grahamlopez3742]

I'm an ak guy, my safety takes my whole friggin hand, 3-5 business days, and a Bulgarian priest to take off. better to just exercise good trigger discipline

[@johnburrows1179]

He was carrying tactical ready. When they got to the rear, they cleared the round out of the chamber, and let the bolt go forward. Then reinsert the magazine. There was no round in the chamber

[@johndsmith-gv8zh]

Correct

[@ensporium8857]

If you are in a high ready situation, you dont keep your rifle on safe... it cost precious time when being on high alert, clearing rooms, houses or buildings 💯

[@joejohnson2447]

I think the issue in the movie at least was dude was in condition one selector switch on fire in the chow line😂

[@mrdune5479]

Exactly😂

[@edwhndz5951]

keep your finger off the trigger if you are not in a fight as soon as you end the fight por the safety back on

[@maisonCJB]

Watch the episode...he explains more about it

[@zeekgeek420]

The most dangerous gun is one you assume isn't, I think all guns should be kept loaded unless being stored. You should act like they are anyway, besides who has time to load when an assailant is already loaded and ready‼️💯🇺🇲

[@jasoncornish2904]

hell, you even figure that shit out in airsoft

[@benbrgr9]

Think peaceful, carry lethal, conduct professionally.

[@ModernMillwright]

Consider the fact that many handguns do not have a "traditional" safety. Many have trigger safetys. Others have a decocker with no safety.

[@Patriot-Logic]

Never on safe unless I’m putting it in a vehicle! Too easy to catch the trigger pulling it in or out,

[@PuertoRicanBoi127]

Why are you transporting a loaded weapon that isn’t on your person anyways?

[@butchcassidy3373]

Just leave your finger outside the trigger guard. That's safe enough while in combat.

[@johnfairchild3421]

F. Never Off Safety til you know all enemy are stone cold

[@prmachinegunner]

On m16/m4 family rifles the safety is so easy to turn on and off that there's not even a debate. You put it on safe and by the time your sights on a target its already off.

[@pamelatabor8040]

It’s like carrying ANY weapon that isn’t “chambered” and on “Safe”…. Do Y’all think Bad Guy/Criminals do that? Ask Yourself this… how long does it take to chamber a round, aim and shoot… when the Bad Guy already has theirs ready to rock n’ roll?

[@brianmonroe488]

He wouldn’t be giving a Tier 1 guy gruff about that.

[@sizedtoaster0278]

Left side Safe. Right side Safe. Middle, sooner or later, Bang, just like grape.

[@LazerMax22]

empty chamber, hammer down, then insert full mag. it's safer. you have to charge the charging handle before you can fire. In this condition, you can't put it on safe.

[@Chalky52]

Oh....ok

[@deborahgorrell1907]

Revolver has no safety switch.

[@flashdancer42]

I always hated the scene, like, the Delta Force are supposed to be the best and to be that you need to be the best example for your fellow soldiers and to represent your unit the best way possible (trigger discipline) but this explains a lot. OFC I understand having to switch to safety inside active situation, but I guess he (IRL) was really tired and forgot or smth :) Good episode, didn't even watch fully yet!

[@bigreddog502]

Once the safety comes off, it don't go back on

[@ViktoriousDead]

Ok killer

[@bigreddog502]

@@ViktoriousDead as a matter of fact I am, 2/2 weapons company, weapons platoon. I'm U.S.M.C 0331. Two purple hearts an a bronze star with combat valor attached. Two combat deployments, been in more engagements than I care to remember. O.I.F 2 an O.E.F 2. That discernment of yours needs some work little buddy

[@captainmerca341]

I don't trust people who says "this is my safety" I want a safety on a firearm in a public place.

[@brownmuta7537]

Yeah I mean number one rule is dont point your gun at anything you arent willing to destroy. So being in the military, being well trained, being in the dynamic environment, having the safety on is much more of a hindrance than not. Because if you're being fired at sometimes you dont have the time to pull the trigger realize you have the safety on, switch it, and fire in target. Otherwise you shouldnt have your finger on the trigger, so you wont miss fire.

[@Ryan83728]

You don't know what you're talking about you werent in the military. Flipping the safety is so easy and Is automatic.

[@brownmuta7537]

@@Ryan83728 no I wasnt in military, just saying in the military, with military training youd understand the rules of gun safety. And okay it's so easy to do yet Its still a waste of time when you have maybe .2 seconds of crucial time to make a decision, if I was in the field I wouldnt have the safety on at all unless I was on a little outpost about to sleep.

[@Ryan83728]

@@brownmuta7537 don't comment on these videos because there are thousands of people that actually did what you know nothing about. Including me. Yeah don't have your safety on and get dishonorably discharged LOL

[@brownmuta7537]

@@Ryan83728 ahh dont comment if you dont know what you're talking about, sounds like very intelligent information from a man who fought for our rights, yet somehow you dont seem to understand them? I'm literally reiterating the same thing several people in the video said, thanks for your service, but dont start walking around disrespecting people acting like they're talking about military reg when they arent. I never said anything about what some pussy MP would do if you dont have your safety on on base, I'm saying I wouldnt waste the time to turn it on or off because that little amount of time in the field is worth alot more than what some MP would try to discharge me for on base. Stop being disrespectful, bye.

[@Ryan83728]

@@brownmuta7537 yeah you still don't get it lol.

[@ishkabibble2204]

Ask Pat McNamara

[@theiviachine]

Never knew this is a real thing I thought it was just a corny movie trope

[@elder_brewster]

It came about because SOP at the time was to clear, release hammer, insert mag. You can't put the weapon on safe

[@allsecurefoundation5084]

I know that story. Hmmmm

[@estevanalameda2799]

Racked a negligent discharge fucking with the safety 😂

[@livefreeprintguns]

Pro tip: having a safety on your gun that was used in a confrontation for self-defense will look better for you on the stand during trial... whether it was engaged or not.

[@contraband1543]

Makes no difference if it was truly self defense.

[@HansBelphegor]

​@@contraband1543idk what would look worse, my "ghost gun g17" (hobby gun) or my iwi Jericho enhanced (literally a weapon for war) but it has a safety

[@gkiiizy6068]

@@HansBelphegor ghost gun cha it’s something that the government can’t control but in the public sector you win cus ghost guns brings the ability to go against Americas government tyranny

[@badgerbusiness9059]

Glocks, and most revolvers have no safety, no different with a long gun, as they are easier to control the muzzle, aside from drop or snag safety, a well trained operator is the safety.

[@troymcdonald9086]

Good guys behind me & Bad guys in Front Keep Weapon pointed foward Safety Off ! Like he said Nothing but Bad guys in front of me Why put in on Safe Your Job Kill Anything in Front of you! Your trigger finger is your safety!

[@Meat3Gulf87]

The front is always considered the unknown since it hasn't been cleared. The same goes for the rear being the known but still should have the mindset of a 360 degree battlefield.

[@rocker8692]

I'm a dude playing a dude,disguised as another dude.

[@G19Jeeper]

Wrong movie

[@risefromtheashes6623]

I don't get it

[@MatthewOnAMissionFromGod]

Yeah, but he was back in the rear so I mean 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gkiiizy6068]

The treat the safety rule like you gun will blow up or something…if your finger isnt on the trigger then how will it fire especially with modern guns and glocks having the built in trigger safety

[@blackhawk7r221]

If you understood being inside the wire carrying your weapon in modified 3, you’d understand the joke.

[@andrerodriguez7985]

Glocks don’t have safety, key is trigger discipline and muzzle awareness. If you are not aware of where your muzzle is pointing you have a problem.

[@ShahAznable]

I thought the joke is chamber is empty and bolt is forward.