WHO is GLAMROCK FREDDY? (FNAF Security Breach Theory)

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In the Burntrap ending of Five Nights at Freddy’s Security Breach, Glamrock Freddy’s dialogue in the Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzeria Simulator location and that fact that William Afton survived the fire set by Henry to become Glitchtrap and Burntrap has lead many to believe that Freddy is possessed by Michael Afton or one of the other characters from FNAF 6.
But is it actually possible for Glamrock Freddy to be possessed by a restless spirit? And if he is, what evidence is there that he’s possessed by Michael and not one of the other spirits? Henry and Charlie Emily (aka the Puppet/Marionette), as well as Molten Freddy and Elizabeth Afton (aka Circus Baby/Scrap Baby) also were supposed to move on after the FFPS fire, but who’s to say they actually did?
Join me in this video as I explore another corner of the FNAF lore using evidence from the FNAF Games, the Silver Eyes novel trilogy, and Fazbear Frights to discover whether or not there is actually a FNAF Game Theory I’m not going to nitpick to no end XD
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[@IDsFantasy]

Any evidence I missed? Feel free to let me know! Otherwise, feel free to leave a comment and I hope you have a nice day :D

[@loganentertainment1814]

You deserve more than 2K subs, but it's the little moments. 😀😉

[@Gr4nd_Mast3r]

If anything, just the beginning of the game where Freddy glitches out after seeing a child that he and Vanessa later claim have no record of; plus, none of the other programmed bots on stage with him react anyway similar towards the child. Could be the soul inside him freaking out and causing a disruption after it recognizes or becomes aware of someone/thing.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, I definitely think that's likely. While that could have other explanations, it would make sense for that to be caused by a soul

[@loganentertainment1814]

That does make sense, because Michael has a strong love for his young brother, even after he accidentally killed him.

[@shilohalpha3819]

@@IDsFantasy I think that glam rock Freddy is michael afton aka eggs

[@darksnivyclaire6683]

"Am I Monty with a different shell?" This whole bit could be a parallel to how Michael himself acted as a shell for Ennard. Maybe Michael had a similar sort of crisis after repossessing his body. He wasn't himself while Ennard was in control, but could he still be considered the same person now that so many parts of his body are missing? Can he still consider this his body when anyone else would be permanently separated from theirs in that situation?

[@IDsFantasy]

Existential crisis for the win lol

[@shannonjensen8934]

I found that dialogue funny since Monty would have a different endo than Freddy because of their mouths

[@Supertails224]

Ok I was pretty hellbent on it being Henry, but your point about his whole driving purpose being to avenge his daughter kinda puts that down. The idea of it being Michael is my new head cannon, all the stuff about the security offices and the endo existential crisis really convinces me it’s Michael. Plus since dad’s still around there’s NO WAY Michael’s spirit could rest because that was HIS driving purpose.

[@IDsFantasy]

I'm glad you like my points! And yeah, Mike would not be content to rest with William still causing problems lol Thank you for commenting!

[@gabrielguedes8576]

@@IDsFantasy As Micheal says i am going to come find you

[@Gr4nd_Mast3r]

Loved the editing looking like a greenscreen behind your character. Looked like you're about to share the weather lol.

[@IDsFantasy]

XD glad you liked it. In this case, the weather is fire with some Remnant throughout lol

[@justin-hurd]

@@IDsFantasy sounds like texas

[@mr_h831]

@@justin-hurd I live in Texas, and uh..... The weather isn't fire, but it is often hot. Lol

[@ckoil3728]

@@mr_h831 so it's technically fire, to some degree

[@trevinodude]

@@ckoil3728 As for the remnant… we (as another person who lives in Texas) will keep you informed.

[@Takejiro24]

I love the idea of Glamrock Freddy being possessed by Michael. With Gregory being an analogue for the Crying Child (there's no way Scott designed Gregory resembling C.C. without that being the case/significant), that means Michael now has a second chance at atonement/redemption. Gregory may not be his brother but he'll protect him as if he were. I feel it also adds thematic weight to Michael's character and story arc, especially in the Redemption Ending where you free Vanessa (who seems to be an analogue for Elizabeth). He's able to free his "sister" from William's control: something hinted at in FFPS with Henry's speech (he doesn't condemn Elizabeth for her actions but he surely damns William's), Scrap Baby's desire to make her father proud by following in his footsteps (the desire to make a parent proud being a significant component in their abuse of their child and it connects to the novel trilogies version of Circus Baby/Elizabeth as well - she obsessively wants William's attention despite being neglectful/abusive to Elizabeth even when she was alive), and Vanessa's therapy tape where she's noted to have an abusive father, "Bill", who she still has psychological hang ups about to this day. In his quest to protect Gregory and maybe save Vanessa, he's reduced to a talking head but even that is fitting for him. Because he's now in the situation/predicament his brother was put in because of his cruel actions: bound to a Freddy animatronic with him being only a head mirroring Michael causing C.C. damage to his with his cruel prank. It's karmic really. Despite that, he's able to live happily now because of his redemption: he's able to live freely and happily with his new family. Gregory and Vanessa may not be C.C. and Elizabeth (I personally prefer if they were not to drive in the theme of "found family" even though I wish Michael could be shown truly making amends to his siblings, especially C.C. of whom I feel we haven't seen enough) but their his new family now and he deserves this happiness after working so hard. Sorry for the novel, this came to me recently and I wanted to get this out. I also have a few pieces of evidence as to why Michael could be possessing Glamrock Freddy but maybe that's for another time.

[@IDsFantasy]

YES. This exactly. It would be so cool for his character

[@tayloranderson7547]

I love you the idea of Glamtrock Freddy being possessed by Michael. With Gregory being an analogue for the Crying child there's no way Scott design

[@tayloranderson7547]

Scott designed Gregory resembling CC. What the beginning of the case/suffication), that means Michael no has the a second chance to edit Gregory may not be his brother but he'll protect him as if he were. Representing the ending where you free Vanessa analogue for Elizabeth ). He's able to set free his sister from Williams control: something hinting

[@tayloranderson7547]

Part of being suffocated

[@Takejiro24]

Ooooo. Is this a bot? This is the second time I've been hit with one of these if that's the case. 👀

[@bluegold1026]

You make a compelling case of Freddy being possessed despite my immediate skepticism of the idea. I thought everyone we knew passed on after Henry’s infamous but legendary speech at the end of FNAF 6. The exception being William Afton, whose physical form has long since gone but his spirit is still alive and wants revenge. For some reason I’m reminded of MatPat’s latest SB vid on the Blob. The only one of his SB theory vids I agreed with.

[@IDsFantasy]

Glad to hear it! I would have thought they moved on as well, but after considering it a while it does make sense to me that they wouldn't have been willing to move on with the goal of their efforts still unfinished. If Cassidy could keep William around for UCN, I don't see why the others couldn't stick around as well, you know? I'm glad I was able to make a good case for it. I've been on the road a lot the past week so I haven't been able to check out MatPat's video yet, but I heard it's interesting so I'll have to get around to it soon. I'm interested to see if I'll actually agree with him on something other than Freddy being possessed lol

[@bluegold1026]

@@IDsFantasy Yeah you do a much better job making an argument in favor of Freddy being possessed than MatPat ever could. He tended to come across as overly dramatic at times. But he redeemed himself with his new theory about the Blob.

[@IDsFantasy]

Thanks! Tbh that's a big reason I wanted to make this video since his explanation was...less than satisfying. Glad to hear his newest theory was good though!

[@maskedcat4520]

actually golden freddy AKA the crying child + cassidy DID NOT burn so only 2 souls were left but in the final season BEFORE security breach william wanted to kill michael so maybe he returned to kill his two sons and get revenge on the suffering he got from golden freddy and the burning caused by michael and maybe the regret he suffered from killing his brother brought michael back .

[@spookyshark2656]

I like the idea of both Henry and Michael being the ones to possess him. Henry because his sacrifice wasn't in vain and Michael because it would be a really nice story for his character. Im inclined to believe the Michael one more because of the other Afton kids parallels we have in security breach (Vanessa-Elizabeth; Gregory-crying child) so yeah why wouldn't there be the third and final one there too? Good theory, I'm glad you brought up evidence of glamrock Freddy being possessed at all, while I believed he was there are a lot of people who didn't so it's nice to see some evidence.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, that's a fun idea. I'm glad you like the theory :D

[@irladovelasquez975]

​@@IDsFantasy what if Cassidy and Evan are possessing glamrock Freddy because Michael and Henry are not like Evan and Cassidy so it could be Evan and Cassidy

[@FairyBread977]

@@irladovelasquez975probably not cause Cassidy would hate willam way more and wouldn’t want to help Gregory

[@irladovelasquez975]

@@FairyBread977 ok first of all she will not attend to attack Gregory why? Because that will sound stupid to attack a child without any reasons plus I don't think anyone is possessing glamrock Freddy and no you cant just say that a soul is randomly possessing glamrock Freddy without any evidence

[@loganentertainment1814]

When you mention how Freddy missing Bonnie could be in reference to how Henry misses the friendship he had with William, until he turned out to be a monster, isn't far fetched. But I think that Michael is in Freddy. And I don't mean by being possessed, he could be in Freddys code. One thing that I'm wondering, is why does Aftons current head look nothing like his head did in Fnaf 6? We know that in order for certain things to be possessed, they need to have physical contact with a human being. Just like how the Ella doll became sentient when Henry held the doll while crying over the loss of his daughter Charlie. So I think there were organic remains of Henry or Michael in the Pizza Place location that Vanny used to tangle up in Aftons new body. Let alone the game puts emphasis on his left hand, which he never had in Fnaf 6. The only thing you missed was the secret message in the secret Fnaf SL room that's most likely referencing Michael Afton. Other than that, I think it's best until the DLC or future Fnaf games come out so we can see what other mysteries can be revealed. What do you think ID's Fantasy? 🤔😀

[@IDsFantasy]

I mean, I did also say that Freddy could be Michael, but Michael being coded into Freddy is an interesting idea. I mean, if he is possessing Freddy, he would be in the code, but I don't see why that would mean Michael isn't attached to Freddy? While yes, proximity is important for possession, physical contact isn't a necessity. There are several characters in the Fazbear Frights books (Jake, the Coils the Clown Guy, and possibly others that I can't remember at the moment) who are simply very close but not in direct contact. Given Freddy cleared the path and Michael (and all the others') remains and spirit were likely down there, I don't see why he couldn't have gotten close enough for the spirit to latch on. As for the head thing, I'd assume Burntrap looking different is because of the fire messing him up even more than he already was and Glamrock Bonnie's parts being used to repair him. That also accounts for the left hand, since it doesn't have any bones or anything in it. I don't see why or how human parts outside of William would be incorporated in since there already isn't much and it does look like any were surgically attached. Oh yeah! I forgot to include the Sister Location room dang it. That is an excellent point since it really does seem to connect to Michael specifically. That is an excellent point. I hope all that makes sense :D

[@loganentertainment1814]

You always make sense to me kid, and don't worry. We got the first book to Tales from the PizzaPlex released, so maybe that series will explain some confusing things about Security Breach. And hopefully the DLC will answer some questions?

[@IDsFantasy]

Thanks XD. And yeah, hopefully! There's already some solid information on Remnant from just the first story, so I'm looking forward to what else they've got, and the DLC should definitely give some information.

[@loganentertainment1814]

Yeah, and like I said, it's best to wait for a teaser, or the next book to come out and see what will be revealed next.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep. Not gonna hold off on making theories in the meantime though :D

[@kaylieghskorner9650]

I really love the idea of Michael possessing glam rock Freddy, it's such a nice character arch for him, finally able to protect Crying child/Gregory in a way he never could before! I hope this gets confirmed in the new DLC!

[@IDsFantasy]

Same XD

[@tothearkexe]

I love the idea of Michael possessing Glamrock Freddy, it would also make total sense bc Michael's goal is to end the pain and suffering William causes and since the fire in pizzeria simulator didn't do its job, his soul is still restless because his father is still there, now recruiting people to bring children to him/kill them for him. So Michael remaining a restless spirit would make so much sense

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly!

[@deaflizard9721]

I like that theory, especially after seeing how Glamrock Freddy holding his "stomach" and his familiar words reminded me of 2 incidents: The Scooper/Baby's Trap and the "Father, it's me Michael" talk. Especially his reaction to William Afton! It had to be him.

[@hebbycakes]

I love theories that Mike is Glamrock Freddy, not actually because of the Afton stuff but rather because it would be absolutely perfect that the first character you play as (in FNAF1) is the one that wants to protect you (in SB) is just... muah. I love it so much.

[@IDsFantasy]

EXACTLY

[@eNCy.]

7:41 Like you said, Freddys ignorance can't be because of charlie, a child, possessing them. Because Charlie was living inside the puppet for over 30 years. She's probably learned a lot in those years. We know this because FNAF 3 takes place at least 30 years after the first game.

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly

[@limefrostart6606]

I honeslty think Henry still being around after Charlotte dies would make sense. While I'm sure letting her rest made him happy, the fact that her life was robbed from her, and that he would never get so see the kid he loved grow up make it hard for him to be truly at peice, which, if he is Freddy, would make the relationship between Freddy and Gregory even sweeter. He isn't replacing Charlotte, he is just finding a new sense of happiness.

[@IDsFantasy]

Fair enough. I interpret it differently based on how he acts in the books and his comments in the games and whatnot. He could still be around even if Charlie passed on but I find that unlikely for a couple reasons. If Henry isn't at peace enough to move on, I don't think Charlie, who actually got murdered by William and definitely didn't move on after FFPS in the Fazbear Frights novels, would be at peace. Using the logic of Henry not seeing Charlie grow up, Charlie probably isn't too happy having her childhood snatched away from her or how her murderer is still around, so she would have equal reason to not move on. Plus Henry in the novel trilogy and in Pizza Sim seems primarily motivated to reunite with his daughter. In the novels, he knew William was still around, but he...yeah. He bit the dust anyway specifically to reunite with his actual daughter. Similarly he references a desire to do so, but not yet in the FFPS insanity ending, and I think the only reason he didn't go through with it was because Charlie's spirit was still around. Add in how Charlie came prepackaged with Remnant while Henry did not, and it seems more likely for them to have stuck around together, or even for Charlie to be around without Henry like she seems to be in the Fazbear Frights books (not that we see any of Henry in those books lol) Not to say she is still around for sure, just that it seems likely that her be there if Henry also is But other than that, I think it still makes the relationship between Freddy and Gregory sweet either way. After all, with how little Freddy seems to remember, he might not remember much about Charlie so whether or not she stuck around, a Glamhenry would be having a similar relationship POV with Gregory either way. That's just how I think of it though. You're totally free to think otherwise!

[@limefrostart6606]

@@IDsFantasy I think if Henry is around without Charlotte, it's due to Charlotte not knowing Henry survived. In FF, we see that Andrew and Charlotte were still around after FFPS in the Stitchline, but the other MCI kids were free, likely due to not knowing Afton survived. And the books, with Andrew, show that once you are in the afterlife, you can never return, even if you didn't willingly move one. So I think Charlotte would move on without Henry because she didn't know he didn't die. If Charlotte survived the Fire, it would be weird for G.Freddy's (If possessed by Henry)story seemed to end after escaping the Pizzaplex with only Gregory (and maybe possibly Vanessa). So I think this means that like FF fire, FFFPS had 3 survivors. Afton, Cassidy, and Henry. I think they just switched which Emily survived. Srry, I'm not trying to change the way you view the story, it was just something I wanted to point out.

[@IDsFantasy]

No worries, you're totally fine. I understand where you're coming from, I just personally try to keep myself open to possibilities so I don't get blindsided when things change XD I'm especially trying to do so with how Ruin is going to (presumably) be coming out next year, and it's very likely we could get evidence for or against the presence of various characters

[@limefrostart6606]

@@IDsFantasy fair, this game is basically FNAF 4 all over again when it comes to lore lol. Still love it though. We are also still getting SB books, so we will be getting lore from those.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, that sums it up pretty well XD It's a fun time. Lots of theory potential lol And yep! And boy is there some cool stuff in the books so far. I'm really looking forward to the next one

[@Niki_kp1389]

One of the main reasons I believe in Glammike theory (the theory of Michael possessing Glamrock Freddy) is that Gregory strangely looks a lot like the crying child, that screams a connection between Freddy and Michael casue Henry and Charlie have nothing to do with the crying child, only Michael has a deep connection with him Also out of all these characters Michael's room was in the pizzaplez which is so random, it's like the game is screaming that Michael is somehow here

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah

[@deaflizard9721]

The reason why I instantly thought of Michael Afton is when I saw Glamrock Freddy holding his "stomach" like that. Also he mentioned "she" brought him there when he "cleared" the path it also made me thought of that scooper incident and he even mentioned "I am not me." He even feel like it when he was scooped and even he survived it.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep!

[@deaflizard9721]

@@IDsFantasy - And there are so many hints/clues/glimpses/habits you can even find a trace of Michael Afton within Glamrock Freddy through all scenes if you pay attention more closely on him. There is no doubt there is Michael's spirit within Glamrock Freddy.

[@ivangarduno1363]

@@deaflizard9721 dont say smth is settled when there isnt AN official source

[@deaflizard9721]

@@ivangarduno1363 - I only describe what I have seen in the games (even I played FNAF games enough to notice things). It didn't matter if there is an official source or not. Freddy's actions and sayings are only closer to Michael's actions and sayings than anyone I have seen in the games. It would make sense when there are clues are pointing to Michael several times no matter where I look.

[@TotoisinToronto]

I’ve gotta say even though it’s unlikely I’m really interested at how you mentioned the possibility of Charlie being Freddy!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thanks! I thought it would be neat to bring up since it is technically possible, but not many would think of it when the other two are much more often brought up

[@TotoisinToronto]

@@IDsFantasy it definitely is a good idea

[@IDsFantasy]

I'm glad you think so :D

[@adammartinez8061]

@@IDsFantasy I definitely think Charlie is Freddy because of that one shot of Freddy and Gregory on the Tree Hill that looks for similar to the one from The Fnaf 6 gravestone ending…..oh and in the fnaf 6 gravestone ending on that hill….what else do we see on that hill besides just the tree….yes……A Gravestone. A Gravestone that’s assumed to be Charlie’s.

[@fancyfree535]

The by-far funniest idea is that Freddy is possessed by Charlie, Michael, *and* Henry simultaneously, so Henry is just parenting his daughter and his former-partner’s son while they’re all trapped in a robot together, trying to fight it’s natural programming where they can

[@IDsFantasy]

XD

[@zacg8975]

I just had a thought about Glamrock Freddy being possessed by the spirit of Michael Afton Since it really is a possibility that Mike's spirit is also like a restless spirit but also a spirit that has unfinished business

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep

[@laraschroeder5195]

One minor possibility that I saw was that Micheal pulled a Glitchtrap and programmed Glamrock Freddy with some deep rooted need to protect children. That, or Henry programmed him that way. Like perhaps Lefty’s chip was used to make Glamrock Freddy and Henry had implanted some kind of protocol in Lefty to protect children as well. We know the old animatronic chips were used to make the Glamrocks, so perhaps some special code made by Henry or Micheal slipped into Freddy’s programming. The fact that Freddy has the slightest ability to fight back against the virus and has awareness of how to keep children safe unlike the other Glamrocks implies he has different programming than the other bots, like some kind of counter towards the Afton virus. If he was possessed, he still wouldn’t be able to fight back unless he had some kind of program to counter the virus. But he does! In the opening cutscene, I’m convinced that he saw Gregory and processed him as a child who was a potential threat/target (because he had no guest profile) and the Afton program kicked in to try and make him kill Gregory (recall that Baby had the programming to count children and target those who were alone), BUT something made Freddy malfunction instead. I think that the thing that made him malfunction was the counter program counteracting the Afton Virus and shutting down Freddy instead. We also know that possessed animatronics are USUALLY more aggressive than when they were alive, and act more like animals (with exceptions including the Puppet). The fact that Glamrock Freddy is fully conscious and not aggressive towards people like Vanessa implies he’s not fuelled by agony or remnant. Freddy also mentions that he “didn’t want to” dig the tunnel towards the underground pizzeria, but he didn’t have a choice. If he wasn’t possessed yet, why did he still experience reluctance to go towards the pizzeria? Perhaps because he knew what was down there and his programming telling him not to free Afton, although that could easily be replaced with Freddy being possessed and the person possessing him not wanting to free Afton as well. Some other evidence could include the VERY CLEAR distress towards Gregory being in his chest cavity, saying it’s not safe despite no past accidents being mentioned, implying nobody had gotten hurt by his chest cavity by that point. Why would he show this much distress over something that seemingly hasn’t been shown to hurt someone until that point. If someone had been hurt in the past, I doubt Freddy would have let Gregory ride around his chest cavity. It felt more like a calculated decision made by Freddy, deciding that letting Gregory ride around his chest would be safer despite the possible risk. Again, this could just be chalked up to him being possessed. I think that Glamrock Freddy being different because he has a unique programming made by Henry or Micheal (or even having the possible downloaded consciousness of either Micheal, Henry or Charlie), would make the story pretty interesting! Burntrap has the body of William Afton but is implied to have the downloaded consciousness of Glitchtrap, not the original soul of William Afton. So it could be like William Afton legacy vs Henry/Michaels legacy. All of them dead but what they left behind living on for them. William left behind the Afton Virus, a virus made to try and murder kids and possess people/animatronics, while Henry/Micheal left behind a counter to that virus, a program to help fight the Afton Virus as well as program animatronics to protect children. Heck! If that theory’s true, it might explain the Princess Quest minigames! Perhaps completing those minigames is the counter program defeating the Afton Virus as the princess! Think about it, Vanessa was locked in a digital prison by Glitchtrap in VR Help Wanted, so who is the person saving Vanessa during the Princess Quest Game? The princess couldn’t really be Vanessa because she’s trapped in the room, and besides it wouldn’t make much sense for Vanessa to be freed after we beat the game unless SOMETHING in that game had the ability to counter the Afton Virus, aka exactly what I’ve been talking about! So perhaps the Princess in the game WAS the counter program, being the only one with the ability to slay glitch creatures and being the thing that frees Vanessa from the locked door at the end of the game. I hope this makes sense but I think I might be on to something. I think I’m gunna write this down. So yeah TL;DR: I think that the reason Glamrock Freddy is different from the other animatronics is because he has a unique program that was made to counter the Afton Virus. Likely it came from the old circuit boards that were scanned to make the Glamrocks and was made by either Micheal or Henry to defeat the Afton Virus. That’s why I think Freddy is so different.

[@IDsFantasy]

An interesting theory!

[@Theonefromcrk]

I really like the idea of henry possessing freddy,like if he can protect at least one person,it already makes him happy,or because he doesn't want to see another person be hurt by william

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep

[@HidanKitten32]

One of the biggest things that did it for me to convince me Freddy was possesses was he was the only Robot, aside from Sundrop (though we might not count him due to Moon himself) not to fall under immediate control and hunt Gregory. Instead he wants to protect him. Either that was an outside source, maybe Venessa hacking him while she had a moment of control over herself or posessed robots are harder to control. And Michael specifically would be an adult soul, unlike all the children souls that would have been in previous games. Maybe he had more control. The other thing, one a friend pointed out, was his "second wind" and the one that really caught my attention was the dialogue while they were going deep under the old pizza place. Especially the "I am not ME" part. I don't know if that was in reality "actually" for golden Freddy or a William Afton thing but if it was cannonly referring to Afton, Freddy saying an altered version of that is a pretty big thing in my book :3 I will like to say i never thought of Henry or Charlie as a possibility and... I kind of like it. They do have their own motives into protecting children. But Michael make more sense to me. Especially with the theory that Greogry looks like Michael's little brother and that's why he feels so protective. As for the whole Venessa thing... I'll have to watch that video of yours but if it's "she's possessed by Elizabeth" I think that's impossible because from the time of Pizza Simulator and this game only 10 so years pass. Plus with Charile herself, she was selfaware in the original game, if Custom Night says anything about it. I like the idea that she and Henry reunited in the afterlife. Give them a happy ending

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, that's my thought process! As for the Vanessa stuff I do recommend watching that video because I'm pretty happy with the conclusions I came to :D Thank you for commenting!

[@HidanKitten32]

@@IDsFantasy For sure, I'll watch it. I just watched MatPats version so far and I couldn't ever understand why people believe that when Venessa would have already been alive during that time to actually be Elizabeth herself. I'll give it a watch later today

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeahhhh, I found his theory a bit lacking. Hence why I made my own XD

[@syweb2]

8:27 Supposedly, Agony is actually a separate substance from remnant, as it is shown several times to be used as an independent power source (and also given a description of the substance). From what I've heard, it might even be written to be a dark counterpart to remnant, where remnant carries the souls of the dead while agony (and the various other emotions) have no attached spirit, and instead both fuel and unthinkingly influence whatever they're attached to.

[@IDsFantasy]

Sort of? Remnant doesn't always have a soul attached, it's just the mixing of the tangible and the intangible. Sometimes that involves a soul, sometimes not. Agony can cause souls to linger and then attach to something to create Remnant, but I don't think everything with Remnant has a whole soul attached. Bits of memories probably, but not necessarily a soul I'll probably make a full video explaining my thoughts at a future time lol Thank you for commenting!

[@YellowSkarmory]

I have no real basis for suspecting this, but is it possible Henry was in Bonnie? It would explain the "I miss him" line, and since I kinda like the Charlie-bot theories, I think Charlie is still around, which also means Henry probably is or was still around. Bonnie is the only character that comes to mind to me that could possibly fit.

[@IDsFantasy]

That's currently my headcanon

[@cpugal.]

I think we need to start asking scott for answers, cuz he just keep throwing crap at us and we continue like "what if this what if that" the sb dlc better have answer to stuff or else ima be pissed

[@IDsFantasy]

Security Breach definitely seems like it was supposed to be something else originally, so while I'm disappointed with how confusing it is, I'm not surprised given the fact that it's FNAF plus the story seems to have been tossed in a blender. Really hoping the dlc is a bit more cohesive, but I'll probably enjoy it either way. I'm pretty forgiving with this kind of thing lol

[@nicholasharlan6504]

Personally, I like Henry the best. Especially since it’s implied Afton overtook Henry in robotic computing and design. Henry’s knowledge would allow him to resist burntraps hacking, but ultimately fail as we see in the jumpscare if we don’t intervene.

[@IDsFantasy]

Neat :D

[@gobboyboyrah]

I think this is a really solid take, besides all the other stuff you mentioned, it makes a lot of sense considering that there are other times in which the animatronics don't remember their past or death. I mean yes in the books, but also in the games. In the very first game the animatronics are trying to kill you simply because you're a security guard in the uniform. While you're not the actual killer (Afton) all they know is that a security guard killed them and they're after you. It makes sense, if they remembered clearly their death and life they would know that you weren't the person that killed them. I think that rings true for most of the games. I think the only time an animatronic has had a clear understanding of their environment is Baby in sister location and even then like you said her personality chip was still influencing her. It makes total sense for Micheal (or anyone else) to be possessed/reincarnated/haunting in Freddy because he doesn't have a clear understanding of the situation. All he knows is that he recognises Gregory for some reason and needs to help him. While I personally prefer the Micheal theory more - either way it supports the idea that Freddy is haunted and not just with personality chips like every other band member

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! And yeah, you sum it up pretty well :D

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

6:31 This one is the best imo

[@IDsFantasy]

A fan of the Henry theory? Nice! That one does have a lot going for it. It's pretty much the main reason I can't definitively say that Michael is Freddy since Henry is a pretty solid contender. I like Michael better for the narrative arc personally (main character of the series becomes the thing he fought to destroy but aids a new main character anyway), but Henry has some merit as well!

[@project__insanity]

Something of note is that in Freddy's monologue he mentions that "My friends are here". Those friends, presumably, being the souls possessing the Blob (since that spaghetti abomination is literally the only other animatronic, minus Burntrap, who's down there). The heads of both OG Bonnie and OG Chica are in there and they both have still-present eyelights, meaning that they are either still possessed or still infected by agony (most likely the latter option, since the missing children should have already passed on by now. it doesn't really make sense for Susie and Jeremy to still be around, who we can confirm used to possess Bonnie and Chica respectively because of the FNaF 6 Lorekeeper ending + Fazbear's Frights: Coming Home). Either way, whether it be remnant or actual souls, it just doesn't make sense for Henry, Michael, or GLM Freddy to refer to those souls as their "friends". Henry doesn't really have any connection to the souls besides his attempts to set them free, meaning he probably wouldn't think of them as friends. Michael, like Henry, doesn't really have any reason to consider them friends (especially since they tried killing him a bunch of times). And Glamrock Freddy, if he isn't possessed, has absolutely no reason to consider the Blob (or the souls inside of it) as a friend. The only one who would really consider any of the other souls as friends would be Charlie. We can't be sure that she personally knows Elizabeth/Circus Baby or Funtime Freddy (who are also present in the Blob), but it is pretty certain that she at least knows Chica+Bonnie, if not also Mangle (they are both present in FNaF 2, after all) It may not make sense for her to be so oblivious to everything that's going on, but like you said she is still a toddler (possibly around three years old, based on the books), and she is probably also suffering from some sort of amnesia like the others. That's not saying that I necessarily believe that Charlotte is the one possessing GLM Freddy (there is still a lot of evidence against her). This just happens to be something I noticed. I honestly find it more likley yhat all of the more "adamant" souls are still around. Crying Child, Henry, Michael, Charlie, Elizabeth, and Cassidy. They all have pretty good reasoning to not want to move on. Henry and Micheal would still consider it their job to make sure William is dead for good. Charlie, like her father, would still want to make sure that William is actually dead. Cassidy, and/or CC (depending on who you believe fnaf ocn's toysnhk is), would still want to get their revenge (I have a feeling that the vengeful spirit will not give up their quest for revenge until William is actually gone). And Elizabeth is probably still on her "make William proud" guest. Even if none of them are possessing GLM Freddy, they are probably still around.

[@IDsFantasy]

And that's why I made this video as a counterpoint to him talking about the Blob kzbin.infoM9s0Vf5stv8?feature=share Thank you for commenting! :D

[@justicerobles5783]

I 100% agree that the vengeful spirit wouldnt move on!

[@MrTaurenshaman]

I like the fact you brought up and discussed all possible theories instead of just sticking to one. Personally prefer to think that Glam-Freddy isn't possessed since his AI is so sophisticated and has such personality, it would kind of ruin his presence as it stands. But that's just how I want it to be, not saying it is.

[@IDsFantasy]

I'm glad you liked it! As for possession, I understand why you'd want that to be the case, though as it stands I don't think it's possible for him to not be possessed. But hey, no matter the case, AUs are a thing so we can make up whatever stories we want lol

[@jadonherr6469]

Way better than what MatPat did with Glamrock Freddy, excelent job!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I'm glad you like it

[@chaosbeam4654]

I kinda hope Freddy is on his own. Like Michael, Charlie, and Henry have dealt with enough. They deserve to pass on

[@IDsFantasy]

That would be nice, though I don't find it likely 😔

[@chaosbeam4654]

@@IDsFantasy probably. If William is somehow still kicking, the other 3 probably are too

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep

[@Gaming2DMX]

I came up with a theory long before the game came out based just on Freddy’s design. I pointed out that micheal and glamrock freddy have the same eye color and they both have a deep voice that sound somewhat similar, obviously there is more proof out now, at the time that’s all we knew about freddy.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep

[@htg98]

i think michael being glamrock freddy is the only fnaf theory i want to be real

[@IDsFantasy]

Valid lol

[@Jayuro_Okami]

Congrats on 2k ID Fantasy! I think it makes the sense that Freddy is possessed because the thing is that I think it depends on who possess Freddy because the thing about Freddy is that if it's true that Michael is the one who possess Freddy because unlike the kids, Michael is an adult which means he has a more likely chance to remember after he possessed Freddy. Not only that, I think that while there is evidence to debunk that in regards to Elizabeth and possibly Evans/Chris since they died as kids, Elizabeth gladly did her father's bidding while Evans didn't want to join his father in killing Michael. Again, that part of my personal theroy can be debunked as with, "Oh, but what about Charlotte?" Well, Charlotte, Elizabeth and Evans all remember the animatronics that kill them which were the same ones that they linked with and the thing is that they were a special case since they are the children of Henry and William... I know it probably makes no sense, but I'm only putting in my personal take on this theroy on if Freddy's possessed and I can be wrong. But my brain's now exhausted after writing this so I'm gonna finish the video now lol. Again, congrats on the 2k subs and I love your videos!!!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you ^D^ Yeah, I think I get what you're saying. Michael's spirit being an adult would likely imply he's more developed and mature, so possibly able to remember after having his memory jogged by the location. Tbh I think it's more dependent on the nature/mental state of the spirit for the memory combined with the animatronics' programming to determine how much of the original person is able to resurface if that makes sense? But that is a cool take on things! Well, I hope you enjoyed the video! I'm glad you've enjoyed them so far :D

[@Jayuro_Okami]

@@IDsFantasy I do understand what you're saying! When you mentioned Henry and Charlotte, I definitly thought Charlotte was a bit of a strech since she doesn't have the same connection with the Freddy animatronics like Henry and Michael do since going off of the fact that William played as Spring Bonnie, it would make sense for Henry to play as Fredbear. The same can be said for Michael however the difference between Henry and Michael's connections with the Freddy animatronics was that Henry didn't witness anyone's death with Fredbear or Freddy in the picture... but that can be said for Michael since he put Evans inside Fredbear's mouth which led to Evans' death not long after. I don't disagree with Henry possibly being the spirit in Freddy, but more of going on the facts of both Henry and Michael's past with Freddy and the reasons that you mentioned in the video. I love these discussions we have and I truly love how much time you put in these videos too! Thank you for the amazing content, ID Fantasy!

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, the main reason I brought up Charlotte is so that I would be considering all possibilities, and while she doesn't have as many narrative connections, she would technically be able to possess him, even if it's unlikely. Henry and Michael's connections to Freddy was also something I thought about! I couldn't really find a way to work it into the video though. As for Michael, I think it's interesting that was the main protagonist of the series which has Freddy in the title, so I think it would be a nice connection there as well if he were to possess a Freddy animatronic, you know? I'm glad you're enjoying the discussions and the videos! Thank you so much for the support :D

[@Jayuro_Okami]

@@IDsFantasy That's a fun easter egg, Michael being the protagonist of FNAF possesses Freddy himself, lol. I'm glad you enjoy these conversations too, ID Fantasy. 😊

[@IDsFantasy]

@@Jayuro_Okami Yep XD Yeah! It's a fun time

[@KavinCatastrophe]

Great Video. Did find your thoughts on Freddy knowing how the Security System work very interesting.

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I'm glad you thought it was interesting :D

[@Mayvil_S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Glamrock Freddy is Freddy Mercury 100% 😂

[@IDsFantasy]

Ah yes, of course! How could I have missed it XD

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

I actually used to hate the theory of glamrock freddy being possessed because it felt like most theorists gloss over the evidence for it, so I really a video going step by step through the nitty gritty details of it.

[@IDsFantasy]

:D

[@limefrostart6606]

I think the lack of glowing eyes in Baby is due to Blob being fueled by the left over Agony of the MCI kids, and not hers

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, I think that's probably the case to an extent as well. I do think it's significant that her mask is there and not lit while all the other animatronics minus the Puppet also don't. I don't see why the Agony/Remnant would be picky and choosy with where it shows up when it's coursing through the entire Blob unless there was a significant story reason. I interpret the lack of glowing to mean the corresponding soul is elsewhere, whether passed on or in a different physical location. But hey, that's just a theory. A GAME theory-

[@caril.9384]

@@IDsFantasy THE ENDING XD

[@RosaISaenz]

When you just said Michael, I already knew it was Michael Afton for sure😂❤

[@smt64productions40]

Imagine the plot twist being Henry, Charlie and Michael all possessing Glamrock Freddy

[@IDsFantasy]

Wild XD

[@smt64productions40]

@@IDsFantasy If there can be two spirits, why not more possessing an animatronic?

[@laotasurfs1110]

You're missing a couple of candidates for the spirit possessing Glamrock Freddy. It doesn't have to be a character who was in Pizzaria Simulator. Not all the possessed animatronics made it there.

[@IDsFantasy]

I know not all of the possessed animatronics made it to Pizzeria Simulator, which is why in the video I only talked about the spirits who I knew for a fact were in the area to possess Freddy. Since then other possibilities have come up through the books, but as of the release of the video I didn't have that information and wasn't able to include them. As it stands, I'm still pretty confident in my assessment of how like it is for each Pizza Sim character to be possessing Freddy based on those characters alone, but I do see the arguments for one of the new characters being Freddy instead of/in addition to a Pizza Sim character. Other than that, I would be very surprised if someone or something that had never been to the FFPS location somehow managed to possess Freddy seeing as he says he found himself in that location, and proximity is an important factor for possession. Hopefully that clarifies things! Thank you for commenting, Laota :D

[@laotasurfs1110]

​@@IDsFantasy I really like your videos! I just like being a mysterious weirdo. On that note: The Blob contains animatronic suits and shells that weren't at the FFPS location, insinuating that someone -- probably Vanny -- collected and brought them to the Pizzaplex basement to add to the Blob. We can't rule out possessed animatronics from other locations. In fact, the odds it was one who didn't appear in FFPS might increase, since they would've missed out on the fire.

[@IDsFantasy]

I'm glad you like them! That's fair XD Actually, someone on my Guilded server said that in one of the new Tales from the Pizzaplex books, there were old models of the og animatronics in the FFPS location while the Pizzaplex was under construction, so if that's true, I'd probably say that's where they'd be from, but if there were souls in them, I think they wouldn't be in Freddy since their eyes are all lit up on the Blob. That's why I mentioned Charlie and Elizabeth. Their masks on the Blob aren't lit, implying their souls are elsewhere. I definitely think their could be other possessed animatronics, the issue for me is would the soul hop from those animatronics to Freddy? The characters I talk about in the video either weren't already possessing an animatronic or there was evidence that they were no longer in the animatronic they initially possessed, and because we know they were there and that the fire wasn't exactly effective (Burntrap and Cassidy were still there, and in Fazbear Frights Charlie remained after the fire as well), there's significantly more evidence that it would be one of them. The epilogue characters seem more likely to me if it's a new character over other possessed animatronics 😅

[@laotasurfs1110]

@@IDsFantasy I'm not up on my Tales from the Pizzaplex, and I agree with everything you're saying, but I can't shake my pet theories. There's a couple of well-known OG charactes who would do a "digital consciousness transfer" with a Glamrock in a second if they could, as they're otherwise in a the worst situation of all the OG characters. It would be their only way out. THat being said, I can't help but feel like GLamrock Freddy's the only wildcard in the story of SB. Everyone else seems to be part of a bigger story.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, I get what you mean I think The whole being part of the bigger story is also part of why I mention the characters I do. Him being Charlie, Henry, or Michael would tie him into the bigger story through their relationships to Burntrap :D

[@wreckingdan4157]

I love your Theories so much. They're pleasable, well research and ALWAYS make sense!!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I'm glad you like them :D

[@thechampion2430]

You know, I never thought of Henry as the one in Freddy, but now I can't think of anyone else more fitting. Yeah, Michael makes more sense, but we had Mike through the entire original arc. Why not give Henry some time to finally shine through?

[@IDsFantasy]

Would be neat. I do lean to Mike what with the 3 star ending, but I wouldn't mind Henry

[@ItzCoca]

Amazing video as always congrats on 2k subs btw

[@IDsFantasy]

I'm glad you think so and thank you :D

[@nightmaresans08]

Gregory may also be Evan Afton. It would make Michael’s role as G. Freddy more possible

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep!

[@meeeg7029]

New favorite Fnaf theorist

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you!

[@JinRupeeland]

Production value is improving a lot! Great stuff!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thanks! I'm glad you think so :D

[@Takejiro24]

Another KZbinr had a theory that GF might be possessed by Crying Child. A piece of evidence being GF's neon sign (can be seen above his room's door and at the entrance of the Pizzaplex) has Fredbear's colors, complete with purple bow tie. Idk if he's possessed by C.C., but that neon sign definitely means something.

[@IDsFantasy]

Given my thoughts on the post-it room, I doubt it's CC, but it could be something to look into! The thing is purple is also associated with Mike, and Henry as far as we know from the books used Fredbear while William used Bonnie, so who knows lol

[@connerwills6802]

A video on your favorite theory, nice 👍. I also do stand by the idea that it’s Michael.

[@IDsFantasy]

Lol yep. I've been meaning to do a video on the theory for a while but it took a while for me to put together a script I was happy with. Nice to hear that you also stand by the Michael theory :D

[@connerwills6802]

And does the ending mean will be getting a theory about Henry and Charlotte some time soon?

[@IDsFantasy]

That's the plan! I don't know if it's going to come before or after a potential video on Lally's Game now that its out, but I am planning on a video discussing where Henry and Charlie might be at

[@connerwills6802]

@@IDsFantasy Wooooooooooooo

[@sussybaka3878]

Dam I love seeing these characters again, I'm glad we're seeing golden freddy, ennard and etc again, let's just hope Scott and steel wool don't recon afton, golden freddy and ennard coming back in security breach cause of bad feedback (even though afton already came back as glitchtrap).

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, I agree. I think it's cool to see new spins on the characters. Security Breach gives much more insight into what the characters in the game are like and it's much more fleshed out than most FNAF games, so if the old characters do reappear there's a lot of good ways they can be used and developed. Plus it would make the introduction of the new cast less stark and allow it to connect better to the previous games. Tbh I like the story of Security Breach even though it's flawed, so I'm really hoping they don't retcon things

[@sussybaka3878]

@@IDsFantasy yea thats what I've been thinking and why I was hyped for security breach and I mean come on why do people just want it to be entirely new characters going forward that just sounds boring, I just want to see more of afton personality of just being afton and his rivalry with golden freddy. Oh and if this theory is true that Michael is glamrock freddy then michael they have endless possibilities cause that dude never spoke a word (not counting the sl cutscene) at all. And there's also the fact afton came back as glitchtrap and him and vanny were teased as the main villians of security breach and before security breach came out people were hyped to see afton and when the game released people where mad they brought afton, golden freddy and ennard back, like what do you people want?

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly! I live for character development and story potential, and bringing back old characters in an interesting way and helping us actually understand them would be so cool! It's part of why I'm looking forward to the FNAF movie even though I don't like horror movies. The information on Michael and other characters we could get is probably a lot! People act like old characters destroy the potential for new ones to exist but they don't. They just create different circumstances

[@ShadowMike202]

The reason why Glamrock Freddy isn't Michael Afton at all because he mentions how he misses Glamrock Bonnie, if Michael does return he will becomes a future foxy animatronic, Gregory and the DLC girl are robots created by Evan and Elizabeth to serve their purpose much like Henry did to recreate his daughter Charlie Emily from the fnaf books

[@IDsFantasy]

Why would that mean Mike has to be Foxy? Possessing an animatronic doesn't require the animatronic to be their favorite, or that the animatronic can't be different from the human possessing it. Additionally I find Vanessa being a robot possessed by Elizabeth to be more likely, and I think DLC girl is probably Charlie

[@ShadowMike202]

Foxy is Michael's favorite animatronic making him a future Foxy animatronic, Vanessa is a human who has parents, the DLC girl looks more like Elizabeth, Charlie is in heaven with her friends and Glamrock Freddy mentions how he misses Glamrock Bonnie

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

10:36 Eeeh idk about the office ones as one of the Co founders of Freddy's wouldn't it also make sense for Henry to know about the offices as well?

[@IDsFantasy]

That's a fair point tbh. But the reason I point towards Michael specifically is because he worked as a night guard using those offices to defend himself from animatronics whereas Henry didn't as far as we know, so Michael would be more acquainted with them than Henry was and have stronger associations with them, you know? I hope that makes sense!

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

@@IDsFantasy I guess but if make more sense for Henry since he did build them shits mostly

[@IDsFantasy]

Depends on if Henry actually did build/design them. We know he started the company with William, but given Fazbear Entertainment's moral sketchiness even in the earlier games and how Phone Guy seems to be running the show, I don't really think Henry was that involved tbh. But I do see where you're coming from

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

@@IDsFantasy technically Michael wasn't either until he was retconed into existence so -\•_•/-

[@IDsFantasy]

Same logic can apply to Henry though lol. And it isn't *technically* a retcon seeing as it doesn't get rid of anything that was previously canon, just a character elaboration. You're totally fine to believe its Henry. I just think the security office stuff fits Michael to a much more significant degree given that was his actual job for half the franchise XD

[@soluna4784]

i admire how you stand firm in your thoughts and remain kind to the people who are aggressive it's hard to not be v bitter, so 👍

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! It means a lot to hear that :D

[@soluna4784]

@@IDsFantasy :)

[@kinkajou6181]

This makes so much sense! Great theory 🤩

[@IDsFantasy]

Thanks! I'm glad you think so :D

[@LooniGamer]

Thing is, Michael never died to or near Glamrock Freddy. And yes, he could have stuck around the sunken pizza place, waited as the Pizzaplex was being built, and possessed Freddy then, but why would he? As Henry stated in the FNaF 6 fire, "There was an escape planned for you, but I'm afraid that's not what you want." which tells us that he wanted to stay in the fire and pass on with the rest, so seemingly, there would be no reason for him to stick around and possess Freddy. Same thing goes for everyone but William, and obviously Freddy is not William, otherwise Gregory would have died.

[@IDsFantasy]

He would have had reason to linger if William stuck around, and Cassidy kept him around after UCN. If Charlie could choose to stick around to deal with William after the fire in Fazbear Frights I don't see why similar couldn't happen here

[@SaynYT]

I just discovered this channel and I have to say,your theories are really good and well explained!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I'm glad you like them :D

[@alexandruvasile4460]

If Glamrock Freddy=Mike Afton then Glamrock Bonnie=Henry🤔.Since they are the best friends and also they want to save kids.It could work🤔🤔🤔

[@IDsFantasy]

Gonna be honest that is my head canon XD Plus it makes William using Bonnie's parts to get rebuilt extra angsty

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, while personally I am not a big fan of the Freddy Possessed Theory, mostly because I enjoyed the idea of the Animatronics being more lively and being actual Characters of their own this time around. I gotta admit, this is a Good Theory, I guess we’ll see how things turns out, maybe?

[@IDsFantasy]

Guess we'll see :D

[@thediamondarcher2880]

While I do support the idea of Michael possessing Freddy, and that’s probably the mostly like candidate, another potential possessor is Evan (or the Crying Child). Why would Freddy, who probably sees lots of children during the day, glitch out after seeing (presumably) Gregory? (Unless Gregory was inside Freddy during the stage performance, although Freddy being offline would give Gregory an opportunity to sneak in) It is possible that, if Freddy saw Gregory who is supposedly a C.C. robot, he would freak out since it’s basically like looking at a robotic version of yourself, even though you’re already dead. Pretty freaky stuff. I guess it could also be Michael seeing his brother alive again, so the evidence could go either way. Another point (the one that started me down this path of thinking) was Freddy referring to the blob as his friends “my friends are down here”. It cant be the cast in the mall because they’re still above, decommissioned in the Pizzaplex. A line that immediately jumps out at me is “we’re still your *friends*, do you believe that?” from Fnaf 4. Who’s talking here is a bit of a mystery, unless you’re talking about the idea of William Afton through the golden freddy plush, but it could be symbolic. However, it’s entirely plausible that the spirits of the dead kids, Evan included, all became friends during the games timeline, like during the fnaf 3 minigames if it is Evan during the puppet’s minigame instead of Cassidy. Now an idea against that is that Evan is supposedly Gregory and while I do support that claim, it doesn’t necessarily mean Evan’s soul is in Gregory. It could just be a robotic replication of his body, while his actual soul is left somewhere else. There is a lot of evidence that could go either way, this is FNAF we’re talking about here, but I would like to propose this idea as plausible.

[@IDsFantasy]

I personally think it would be off if both Gregory and Freddy were meant to be the same character but it would be interesting

[@rebeccalotto8001]

okay it'd be hype af to have henry return possesing a glamrock version of fredbear.

[@IDsFantasy]

It would be pretty cool :D

[@sussybaka3878]

Yes the theory is still alive!!!!

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep lol. This is one of MatPat's Security Breach theories that survived my analysis XD

[@tylerlyons1812]

I am so glad you made this video. lol

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I've been planning this video for a while, so I'm glad you're happy about it :D

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

Glamrock Freddy is possessed by Phone Guy - that's how he knows the security systems lol

[@lordcanti]

Love the theory work here!

[@IDsFantasy]

Glad to hear it :D

[@lordcanti]

@@IDsFantasy totally! As a fan since fnaf 1 it makes me so happy to see people still theorizing about this series and such. I hope one day we get all the answers! (Staring at you Scott! Lol)

[@IDsFantasy]

Nice! Well, I'm happy to theorize until we get more answers (also staring at Scott) XD

[@fortnitegamergod9749]

Gregory is crying child, and Freddy is Michael, the reason Freddy wants to protect Gregory is because Gregory is litterly the reincarnation of Michaels brother who he blames himself for his death

[@IDsFantasy]

Seems likely to me. I'm pretty sure I referenced that in the video

[@_AseOfHearts_]

Henry lost his daughter, so the need to protect a child is to do what he couldn't do, protect children. Not to mention 5 more going "missing" in his establishment, so a drive to help kids after setting who he could free, makes sense to me. But Micheal could have died since he was basically possessing his own body. He "died" and he could have had his soul linger sister location but it didn't. Henry also makes sense since in the books, he was seen in a Fredbear suit, linking to if he were to die, be in a Freddy/Fredbear model if he were to die. Only way we could link Micheal more is that he had a bear mask, but he did have a foxy mask but never possessed a foxy animatronic. So the mask in that aspect doesn't link to anything

[@IDsFantasy]

See, but Michael is the main protagonist of the first arc of FNAF and making the main character of Five Nights at Freddy's into Freddy is so ironic and I love it But yeah, it could be Henry

[@_WolfyHub_]

In fact freddy's hatch actually kinda reference to Micheal's scooped injury. Doesn't it?

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep lol. Ah, the irony XD

[@FuntimeAexo]

Nice to see this channel grow, congrats! I myself hope to launch a FNaF theory channel and hope for as much success as you. Great video as always :)

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I wish you luck on your channel. I'm glad you liked the video :D

[@minecraftbeelol]

This video is a bit old but I do want to bring up some things. For example, I don't know why you immediately ruled out Elizabeth. While, yes, she did want to make her father proud, she could've perfectly decided that she didn't want to harm anyone anymore. I like the idea of Elizabeth possessing Glamrock Freddy because I think it gives her a nice redemption arc. However there's another possibility. I think the crying child also works as a possibility, I don't know why people rule him out immediately because I think it makes sense. Gregory might remind him of himself and that's why he wants to protect him. I also think it would be really sweet for it to be him, maybe just because both the crying child and Glamrock Freddy are some of my favorite characters. Either way I really like the video and it was fun to watch!

[@IDsFantasy]

It's mainly because of what I go over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHrRiWmMaM12i8k (for Elizabeth) Similarly, Gregory has more CC connections imo, if CC is around at all. I do get where you're coming from with the critique though, and I probably would go about this video differently now, but I'm glad you liked the vid!

[@MaxxTheLycanroc]

Given the evidence that we have now, we know 3 things 1. Henry's Goal was to free the souls William killed, which happened given the fact that he burned himself, William and the kids to the ground, yes, Burntrap is a thing, but Henry's main goal was to save the spirits that got killed because of his actions and inactions 2. From one of the Tales of the Pizzaplex books, the one with the Tiger, that rules out Charlie given how the AI that ran the Pizzaplex and was fighting against Burntrap most likely is Charlie, given how the wires turned into a design similar to the Puppet's arms Which only leaves 3. Michael, Michael would fit this best because his goal is to finish off his father once and for all, and if his remnant works like it should, it should let him know his father still lingered about in some way, and hence would allow him to come back, and the reason why he would protect Gregory is probably because he looks like Evan, and given how Evan was closest to Golden Freddy, he possessed Freddy to give ease to Gregory, the way Freddy behaves acts like how a brother who regretted harming his family would react, doing things above and beyond for the person to help them even if it hurts him, in that case, Michael being Glamrock Freddy would also explain why G-Freddy was able to hold off the hacking, Michael wouldn't want to have his father take control of his life anymore, even if Michael was now in Freddy

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep!

[@user-throat]

In fact, he wasn't hacked because he was taken off stage

[@SilentUnityy]

Congrats on 2K!! Your video is great as always!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you!!! I'm glad you enjoyed it :D

[@eatingboomers]

CONGRATS ON 2K !!!!!!!!!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you!! :D

[@eatingboomers]

WAKE UP NEW ID'S FANTASY FNAF THEORY DROPPED!!!!!

[@IDsFantasy]

pbskdjflskdj glad you're excited XD

[@screenery958]

speaking of possession i think candy caddet is possesed by henry

[@IDsFantasy]

Interesting theory, though I'm not sure how that would work

[@screenery958]

@@IDsFantasy in the books and fnaf world ot show that henry made a robot to kill himself, what if that also happened in the main storyline with the robot that killed him being candy cadet and because candy does not have that much of a personality (shown with the boring robotic voice) and because like freddy candy cadet knows more that he should

[@IDsFantasy]

Interesting. Though Henry is alive in Pizzeria Simulator so I'm not sure that works...

[@screenery958]

@@IDsFantasy i dont think henry is alive, i think he was built to pretty much be an arsonist bot, but there is one major thing that can contradict this and its that even if you dont buy candy cadet you can still get the true ending, i have another theory that can explain how it works and its that like lefty even tho you dont buy him he could also be in the ally way, we just dont notice him or think that hes not possesed

[@funtimegamer8733]

The way freddy talks about the pizzeria simulator location is so strange. Whatever awoke in him at that moment must be the key to whats going on with him as a whole. When he says he is not "me", thats an obvious reference to golden freddy, but what does it mean? That he is not freddy? That he is being taken over by burntrap?(ie he is not feeling himself) does he mean he isnt his spirit? That freddy is a seperate entity from a spirit inside of him, equally alive and real? If his friends arent the blob, then why doesnt he aknowledge the living ooze of metal right infront of you? Could it be afton who is speaking to you through freddy? When has freddy been down there, as he claims "she" had brought him down there?

[@funtimegamer8733]

Also I think the art comment is more a clash between Freddy's programmed view of the company (a place where fun and fantasy come to life, a place of safety where they don't cut corners), with the reality that fazbear entertainment are a bunch of scum bags who will let hundreds die for money or for worse reasons

[@IDsFantasy]

Given Freddy says he'll protect Gregory right before saying "I am not me", and Burntrap doesn't hack him till later I think it's in reference to him being possessed, and as such not himself/Freddy. But yeah, it's very interesting to think about

[@DARK_BONNIE17]

ur theory is way good than I Thought good edit by the way 👌🏻

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you :D

[@bqckslash]

I think it's very cool that the creator is still reacting to every single comment on a 5 months old video. Props

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you XD

[@IDsFantasy]

You commented right as I was checking for new comments and I find that kinda funny lol

[@bqckslash]

@@IDsFantasy I was about to say that was so fast lmao

[@IDsFantasy]

XD

[@DerpaTure9503]

I think Charlie is the most likely possibility. The evidence you bring up for Mike about him understanding the security system seems to just be something Freddy has due to being connected to the overall Pizzaplex servers. All the animatronics are programmed with the Security Bots' alarms in mind, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch. We know he is naturally able to access this stuff since he somehow just turns on a button that makes the cameras available to our Faz-Watch, without being anywhere near where we are. In FNAF 3's Happiest Day, Charlie is the last mask to fall to the ground, only leaving after the other souls are set free. If they are still around, so is she. In the scene where The Blob is introduced and Freddy gives his monologue, he claims his friends are down there, confused and angry. He wouldn't know the Glamrocks are there yet, and that description perfectly matches The Blob (especially with how he says it only a couple seconds before we see it). Charlie was one of them for a long time, they are her friends. Michael's or Henry's? Not so much. The cipher message in the game seems to be directed to Gregory, describing everything he does throughout the story in the form of orders, or hints--someone who seems to want him to succeed and is trying to push him to that goal. Glamrock Freddy is the only character in the game who would fit that bill. The poem starts by saying "break and mend i built the breath". Although this could refer to plenty of things, like Gregory himself, I think it's possible it might refer to how the writer, Freddy/Charlie, technically "built the breath" of the classic 4. She gave them life, in Henry's words, she's the reason those "tiny breaths of life" are in the animatronics. There's also the "You're broken" line MatPat pointed to as evidence for Gregory being CC in his first Security Breach video. He attributed that to Mike, despite there not being much evidence he said it. We know it's not William or whoever was using the plush before that point, since the text color changes. In FNAF World, that same character talks to us again and references the scene by reiterating many of its words. That character is helping CC remember themselves and seems to be trying to set up the Happiest Day minigame seen in FNAF 3. Who was responsible for that in the game? The Puppet. Lastly, SB's ending screen is often compared to FFPS' ending screen. The hill does suspiciously resemble the hill at the end of FFPS. It could just be nothing, and just be there as a random backdrop for a happy ending, but if it is meant to reference that hill, isn't it interesting Gregory and Freddy are below a tree in pretty much the same spot Charlie's grave was in FFPS?

[@IDsFantasy]

I actually kinda prove something else in my most recent video kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6DYpamNbcyMnbs But yeah, Charlie as Freddy would be very interesting

[@DerpaTure9503]

@@IDsFantasy I watched it and I agree with a lot of it, but I don't think it's necessarily mutually exclusive with this. Novel!Charliebot was a new personality made from agony, with artificial memories added in. Her drawings seem to be less explicit about her past than CC's (the one exception would be the guard, who could be Vanessa or smtg), so I think it's still possible he real soul is in Freddy. I guess we'll just have to wait for Ruin and see if it clears anything up.

[@IDsFantasy]

Fair

[@xlovleysunnyx5604]

@@DerpaTure9503 we need more people like you! I Love your theory!

[@LazyFluff]

Binge-watching your videos right now and I'm pissed that none were suggested to me earlier... Damn algorithm... Well, better late than never! I really hope your channel gets more exposure because your theories are well constructed, the editing is good and your voice is nice and easy to listen to! Notification bell set to "All", now to the next video!

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! I'm glad your enjoying them :D

[@idiot_sandwich_]

wait just realised that if like agony clings to places where travesties happen or whatever and all of the animatronics went to the blob and Michael is possible freddy then where is henry? possible that he’s somewhere possessing some animatronic or something

[@IDsFantasy]

It's possible!

[@firetobster3200]

I'm pretty sure that Freddy is possess by Michael since I feel like Charlie being the only one left and the little girl in the Ruin poster kinda looks like what people depict Charlie looking like (a younger version of Charlie from the books which we know isn't out of the question since both Henry and William were originally from the book

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, that seems very likely to me as well

[@ziyadaahmad2165]

With all the evidence from other videos I saw, glam rock Freddy has to be micheal Anton from the storyline and the evidence I saw

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep! That's what seems most likely and most satisfying to me. I hope it's actually the case Thanks for commenting, Ziyada :D

[@MrTaurenshaman]

He's Glam-dad, that's all that matters

[@IDsFantasy]

Heck yeah lol

[@ImmortalAbsol]

Is it not possible the Golden Bonnie aspect inspired the he comment? Either visually or some sort of electronic signature?

[@IDsFantasy]

For knowing Burntrap was a he? Maybe, but Burntrap is in pretty bad shape, so it might make it more difficult. Plus Gregory questioning the pronouns Freddy was using for Burntrap seems significant to me. But it is true that it's not definitive, hence why I go over other things as well :D

[@ImmortalAbsol]

@@IDsFantasy 👍🏻😊

[@washeltonstate8761]

The fact that most of the community are still brushing off these compelling theories and calling them au is sorta weird considering that multiple channels talked about it to reach the same conclusion

[@IDsFantasy]

It's definitely weird. It bothers me a lot when people say there's no evidence for a theory to be just because they don't like it 😔

[@washeltonstate8761]

@@IDsFantasy exactly.

[@washeltonstate8761]

@@IDsFantasy i might not like a theory but throwing the theory away because you don’t like it ain’t really logical

[@washeltonstate8761]

@@IDsFantasy also the security hat on the glam rock Fred head is purple too which I’m pretty sure represents the aftons

[@vbbrothers]

So I think Micheal is still alive because he never came to the fnaf 6 location and it all comes from one line in Henry's monologue: And to you my brave volunteer,altough not intended for you.... Henry knew everything, he thought about every detail, so not calling the player Micheal doesnt make sense. Maybe Henry ran out of time and had to start up the trap early

[@IDsFantasy]

Interesting. That's not an interpretation I usually see. Tbh I think the real reason most people believe it's Michael is moreso the "I have a feeling you're right where you want to be" as the fire is going down implies that the "brave volunteer" does not have anything left to live for at this point. Combined with Michael basically being the main character of that arc of the games it seems heavily implied that it's him. Henry doesn't refer to many people by name in the ending, only calling out Elizabeth directly by name. If he doesn't even bother to call out his own daughter or William by name, I see no reason to use that as evidence against Michael, you know? And seeing as you're told throughout the game that something is going to happen the day that it does happen in game implies it wasn't early, you know? But those are just my thoughts on it. You're free to think differently :D

[@vbbrothers]

That's how theorizing works after all but I believe what I believe and other people believe what they believe. I just think its weird that we never got any form of confarmation in a game thats all about tying up loose ends you know?

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep lol I mean, it ties up loose ends, but it's also FNAF. It would be weird for it to be straightforward lol. I'm honestly surprised we know as much about what's going on in that game as we do XD

[@RealRoboKnight]

No, Michael is the protagonist of FNAF 6 lol

[@alazyassducklingpaigew2614]

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER SEEING THE END OF THE PIZZAPLEX, IT ALL BURNS DOWN?! FREDDY TELLS GREGORY THAT HE IS MICHAEL AFTON? AM I THE ONLY ONE?

[@IDsFantasy]

Freddy heavily hints that he's possessed, but he never states who he's possessed by

[@mattiaevangelista8113]

Can i say that i really like the idea of michael begin freddy becuase i really hated the fact that they trowhed away a good carachter (michael) but now after this im happy

[@IDsFantasy]

Nice!

[@paulasepulveda413]

Sooooo good!!! 🙌🙌🙌

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you :D

[@zacg8975]

I honestly don't know but I truly believe that the spirit of Michael Afton is possessing Glamrock Freddy That's my opinion

[@IDsFantasy]

same

[@zacg8975]

@@IDsFantasy I've been curious about this for a while I really don't know if this'll be controversial or not but is MatPat from Game Theory a Christian Because I am And I ask that question because I'm curious

[@limefrostart6606]

the more I think about it, I don't think anyone possessed Freddy. The wall code in SB seems to imply the Mimic1 virus gave life to the animatronics, and Freddy seems to imply his true self was forced to watch what the personality generated by Mimic1 made him do, and we even hear Chica moaning/crying. "I am not me", and "I changed" are most likely Freddy saying he is now his own person, no longer controlled by the personality chip or the Virus. A theme in SB and Ruin seems to be completely new characters mirroring old ones. So Freddy most likely isn't literally Michael, but is only mean to represent him, like Gregory with Garrett/Crying Child. That would also explain why Freddy is tied to Fredbear so much in SB, because the relationship between Freddy and Gregory is a metaphorical redemption of the Bite of 83.

[@IDsFantasy]

He said he found himself when he cleared the path in the Pizzeria Simulator location, and I don't think the wall code is at all about Mimic. Mimic also wouldn't explain the whole second wind thing, and "I am not me" doesn't make sense if he's more himself than ever

[@limefrostart6606]

@@IDsFantasy The wall code is most likely about Mimic. "Break and mend" = The Mimic was destroyed, but was then put back together. "I built the breath" = Edwin created the Mimic. "They hunt now, drawn to life" = Mimic infected the animatronics and gave them sentience. "Not real, still keen" Mimic isn't a real person, but it's as smart as one. "Fraught with thought and zest and gest no blunt woes" = Mimic was exposed to emotions that gave Mimic sentience, but is seemingly unable to properly understand things like pain. "Dodge, duck, flash, shoot, crawl, run, crush the file band" = Explaining ways to avoid getting killed by the animatronics in order to destroy them. "Cry not, try not, do not. Hold out hope hope" = Don't be scared. Or, if it's "do not hold out hope", it can represent Edwin both trying to encourage the reader, and also not being entirely sure if Mimic1 can be stopped. "Your life, your aim, will save those with soul" The survival of the person reading the poem and the objective given by the poem will save innocent people. It's even written in odd shapes, like Edwin writes before his death.

[@lluminoustar]

I haven’t seen the actual gameplay so i don’t know if this is true, but i saw someone say that Freddy referred to the animatronics in the blob or something like that as his friends which gave me a reason to believe that charlie is glamrock freddy :) + her desire to protect and help people,especially knowing afton lived on

[@lluminoustar]

just wanted to say again, im not completely sure about this- again i haven’t seen the actual gameplay :)

[@IDsFantasy]

Tbh I really don't think he's talking about the Blob in that sequence, though it would be a point towards Charlie. I actually have a short explaining my thoughts on who Freddy was talking about here kzbin.infoM9s0Vf5stv8?feature=share

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you for commenting! I appreciate it :D

[@lluminoustar]

@@IDsFantasy oh, alright! i’ll watch it rn

[@lluminoustar]

@@IDsFantasy ofc:D

[@theodorebarton4256]

These past few months, this channel really seems to have entered the ring as an up and coming FNAF theory channel, alongside GT and FuhNaff This may seem insensitive, but do you have AD(H)D? It’s just that your personality reminds me of Red from OSP and I feel like if you have AD(H)D, you generally tend to notice more things since you’re distracted by everything. In all of your videos, you keep mentioning things and bringing up connections I’ve not seen/heard from other KZbinrs. If you don’t have AD(H)D, you have a very good eye (or two)

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you! As for ADHD, I have no clue lol. I think I have some relatives who have it, so it's possible, but I'm not sure. I'm glad you think I'm good at noticing things though! Thank you for commenting :D

[@Onoducer]

It’s got to be Micheal afton because he knows who burntrap is and Gregory has no idea what he is

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, that's what seems likely to me

[@tabkg5802]

"And thus Michael FNAF is now Freddie" 🔥🔥✍️🔥🔥

[@Hannahs_Mustangs]

Just came from binge watching the rest of your videos for the 3rd time... what if Phone Guy is possessing Glamrock Freddy 😂

[@IDsFantasy]

That would be quite the plot twist XD

[@Hannahs_Mustangs]

@@IDsFantasy I wouldnt be mad about it tho 😂 it be more of a celebration, to know Phone Guy is still around to help people 😅 Also thanks for liking my comment! I know this video was posted a while ago, but I wanted to share my one thought on the subject 😂

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

I've been against the theory of Glamrock Freddy being possessed since day one, but you kinda made me much more open to the idea. That being said I still prefer the idea of Glamrock Freddy not being possessed.

[@IDsFantasy]

I'm glad I was able to help with that! And understandable. I personally think Freddy being possessed, but still being influenced by his programming/personality chip to be really interesting in terms of story (and angst) potential, but I completely understand wanting him to not be as well Thank you for commenting :D

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

@@IDsFantasy I guess technically either way it is Freddy as the main personality kinda like Circus Baby was despite being possessed. So yeah I'm more or less ok with this theory after remembering that spirit memories and animatronic personalities can be funky sometimes.

[@IDsFantasy]

Yeah, that's my thought process. Freddy's the one primarily there, but with the bonus of a spirit shoved in making it so he can help Gregory im the first place. I'm glad you're somewhat okay with it 👍

[@sirfazbear4993]

But he obviously is possessed-

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

@@sirfazbear4993 Yeah that's more obvious to me now, but for a while I just didn't think he was.

[@arhr2713]

I will forever belive only in the theory that he is Michael.

[@IDsFantasy]

Nice lol

[@arhr2713]

@@IDsFantasy OMG I just got noticed by a big KZbinr! XD thank you very much I love your content!!!!!

[@oscarkageson-loe]

Here is a theory on who Glamrock Freddy is. I think he is Golden Freddy. The reason I think he is, is because first he is the same colour as GF and has the same hat and bow tie. I believe the reason he has a choice now is because his spirit is at rest and he can finally decide what he wants to do. Just a theory.

[@IDsFantasy]

To me, Gregory and the Princess Quest Princess make more sense to be the Golden Freddy spirits, but it's an interesting thought

[@oscarkageson-loe]

Wow thanks for the comment really shocking to see your reply!

[@Take_2.2]

Idk, the fact that there are like, 4 or 5 seperate timelines that are official content is weird. I catagorize them as Fnaf Mainline (Fnaf 1-4, SL, PS, UCN, HW, SB) Fnaf Silver Eyes (The Silver Eyes book series) Fnaf Frights (Fazbear Frights and maybe Tales From The Pizzaplex) Fnaf Tales? (Tales From The Pizzaplex, but this may be the same timeline as Fazbear Frights) And lastly: Fnaf World. (Self explanitory.)

[@IDsFantasy]

Lol nice. Though actually I'd put Tales as possibly game timeline, but yeah XD