Who is the Strongest Daedric Prince in the Elder Scrolls?

[@bigfloppa9215]

I think we can all agree the most powerful Daedric prince is Nazeem, whose sphere of influence is driving people to quick saving and then beheading him, then reloading the save, not to keep him alive, but to do it again and again. Nazeem dwells in the plain of oblivion know as "The Cloud District", which you probably don't get to very often.

[@rensv7928]

Rian Trainor i have come over my hate for Nazeem since recently: I was taking a quest in castle Volkihar where they instructed me to kill a random important man and blame the dawnguard. Of course i chose Nazeem, killed him, blamed the dawnguard. But then i didn't complete the objective. Apparently Nazeem wasn't an important person at all. All that narcissism wasn't true 😂. He's as important as Heimskr or Brenuin

[@bigfloppa9215]

Strawberry Flavored Bleach lol that's actually great

[@brycekrispiez714]

“Do you get to the cloud district very often, oh what am I saying? Of course you don’t.” ACTUALLY I DO GET THERE OFTEN NAZEEM. WHEN THE FUCK DO I SEE YOU IN THE CLOUD DISTRICT. GO HOME TO THE DRUNKEN HUNSTMAN

[@OpiatesAndTits]

Never seen his ass in dragon's reach once. If hes so important you'd think he'd get invited to eat at the Jarl's huge table once in awhile, but NOPE not once. While I can go in the Jarl's bedroom in the middle of the night, steal his knickers, and all the guards say is "HAIL COMPANION" I have now made it my goal to eat Nazeem. Eat him and turn him into perks!

[@KingRumar]

You, sir, win the most cheese and even the internet

[@harrowedone974]

You forgot M’aiq the Liar, Daedric Prince of Useless Trivia and Helpful Insights

[@ayakaasama]

Harrowed One magic plus magic is still magic

[@justunnam3d]

Arent there speculation M’aiq is an eadra?

[@gabrielkendrick3217]

M'aiq is Magna Ge, M'aiq is the Missing God Of Creation, *Lorkan* !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@NameName2.0]

Harrowed One clearly not a daedric prince, but the Khajiit god of gods

[@DraiksDracula]

Harrowed One indeed The God of Uselessness & Waste Of Existence.. that KAH!-JEET!! makes me wants to sell his skin.. XD Note: (Just so you know the KAH is the Sound of Spit Getting Ready and JEET is the Word SHIT with HEAVY Emphasis on the "I" + The SPIT Flying Right to His Face Like A "FLYING F#@$")

[@deadacc6338]

Mundas: "What are you gonna do??? Throw a rock at me" Sheogorath: "I was thinking something like that..."

[@pj5403]

Then he hurls a giant cheese

[@fabrypetty1689]

then he fills mundas with sweetroll golems.

[@eyereign5730]

@@fabrypetty1689 And the guards won't do anything about it!

[@szabodaniel5575]

Would be better if Mundas : " What are you gonna do? Throw a rock at me?" Sheogorath: *holding giant fucking metorite behind his back* " Nah m8 who do you think i am ? Some kind of mad lad?"

[@rosevampire3755]

This hit me harder than it hit the red mountain.

[@OuterRimPride]

He threw a MOON at Vivec City because HE THOUGH IT'D BE FUNNY. Now that's power.

[@seekerseraphimtherecluse4314]

Scott Glennon trickster gods are the best

[@crimsondynamo615]

Well it would be kind of funny, watching as one guy builds up a mighty empire, then have it struck down immediately afterwards. It’s like history in twenty minutes.

[@jesterssketchbook]

in his defence, it was pretty funny

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

like madara throwing a meteor at the shinobi alliance just because he could XD

[@MrFishmann]

He's pimping

[@smugglefish8171]

All Deadra Princes fight to the death. Sheogorath does nothing and wins

[@pj5403]

Actully he would make it rain melted cheese they all slip and they die from the fall

[@joaoanao5486]

Sheogorath os swiss

[@gorplsnaps2920]

Even if he did so, when sithis was doen winning, even if he was weakened from the fight, which he wouldn't be, because the fight would he nothing for him, he would still be hundreds of times more powerful than sheogorath

[@Abdega]

Sheogorath is Luigi…

[@kalebnolan8343]

He literally would do nothing and allow the rest to kill each other, once one remains he would simply destroy their mind and lead them to take their own life

[@phoenyxx_8475]

clavicus and barbas are weaker versions of shaggy and scooby, change my mind

[@dayman8892]

*you can't

[@sorinfc7681]

Lmaooo agreed

[@captainzoltan7737]

ultra instinct shaggy solos

[@bryanbenskin2714]

Wait, does that mean ol' Clavy's a pot head?

[@coyotewithagun5201]

Pro tip: you can't, don't even try. It's the truth

[@jasonc584]

Sheogorath is the kind of guy to kill molag Bal with a sword made of cheese that is somehow stronger than steel...

[@cot1579]

How has this only recieved two likes

[@bloodangel19]

No, he is the type of guy to make Molag kill himself with the cheese sword

[@sirsillysocks]

LOL

[@Ace_of_Spades6]

God I wish that happened in the game. I despise Molag Bal. Hermeus Mora used to be my least favorite because of how creepy he is. Molag Bal dethroned him for me after I figured out more about Molag Bal and what he did to Serana... Needles to say, I despise him and would laugh if we saw sheogorarh kill him with a cheese sword. Want that to be a quest in the next elder scrolls game or a random mod in Skyrim

[@bloodangel19]

@@Ace_of_Spades6 well you can't exactly expect the rape god to be nice guy

[@1oace768]

Hermeus Mora: here in my realm of oblivion, just bought this new creepy tower, but you know what I like more than material things? KNOWLEDGE!

[@thesumptuousscribbler2709]

Underrated comment

[@dabass94]

Actually just the dwarf in the flask.

[@hidan407]

@@dabass94 And once he shows his human form, we all going to call him Father?

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

Oh my god I hated that advertisement haha. Here in my garage! I have bookshelfs for some reason

[@KING-lw8nv]

Hermaous mora true form is just gary from spongebob dream episode

[@Thoralmir]

I'm only sad that we only have three recorded instances of Sheogorath getting the better of other Daedric Princes. I'd love to see how he humiliated Princes like Molag Bal.

[@mr.jameson218]

Thoralmir He didn't, he didn't wanna touch The Prince of Rape with a ten foot pole, bad PR.

[@ramblingentertained]

Shegorath is insane, not stupid.

[@BlossomPathOnStage15]

@Alika Fifi arafiah Really what did he do to the other Princes?

[@logangoerks236]

@Alika Fifi arafiah I want to know how he tricked the god of fate (Hermaus Mora) when he know what would happen.

[@DHAGSFU]

@@logangoerks236 he doesnt know everything

[@smugglefish8171]

The bible of Sheogorath Our Lord said "Cheese for Everyone" And everyone got cheese

[@fabrypetty1689]

The bible of Sheogorath : WabbajackWabbajackWabbajackWabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Cheese Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack Wabbajack and then he proceeded to turn all the dwemer into a giant numidium made of sweetrolls that he gifted to his new chair named Dagoth-Ur that was in fact a library made of cheese, like all libraries in the shivering isles.

[@cosmicwarfare4377]

Then he said, "Wait, scratch that cheese for no one."

[@livirus3826]

English teachers will be thinking way too deeply about this comment

[@eyereign5730]

@@cosmicwarfare4377 And No One, who just came into existence, was thankful for the cheese.

[@jjsouls6986]

And it was good

[@boylesmono5764]

"Knowledge is power.." -Hentai Mora

[@lazaruslong697]

Moar octopussies!

[@joshpena8956]

Boy Lesmono power is power - cersei scene

[@MaxonerousX]

"Ignorance is strength" -Big Bröther

[@hentaihaven2843]

Josh A real milf. ;]

[@richardlionerheart1945]

"Sometimes i dream abot cheese" ~citizen_07

[@atlas6533]

Hermaous Mora: A long quest that is filled with fun fights, puzzles, and storylines. Sheogorath: Hehe, wobble bob go woosh

[@mariahboop4603]

*A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON* That line has the power to break your ears if head phones and full volume. That is true power.

[@jyotiradityaguleria907]

CheekyFox 05 it scared the shit out of me the first time I unknowningly picked it up

[@HickoryDickory86]

*_"LISTEN!!! HEAR ME, AND OBEY!!!!!!"_*

[@gabrielkendrick3217]

NO! FUCK YOU MERIDIA YOU WEAPON KILLED ME (Before I realized the player counts as undead when a vampire)

[@landrylongacre6391]

Ok I wonder how it always shows up when you don't have it? Does she just have a billion of these fucking things?

[@lyntonfleming]

The Beacon actually follows you through different containers (including the recently deceased.) My second play through, I killed a guy, went to loot him, then noticed the beacon. I left it alone. Carried on with my day, killed a few more people, looted some chests, and found it again. Left it alone, fast travled away and was ambushed by Dawnguard (playing a vampire lord) Killed them off pretty quickly, looted the corpses and there it was again. Following me. Taunting me. She knows I am what she hates. And she has chosen to torment my unlife with her beacon of Atherium Light. Driving me to the same madness that drives the lesser, feral Vampires of Tamriel.

[@tawfeeqgallie8527]

The thing about Hermaous Mora is that he has a lot of knaaaaawledge.

[@anime-cu7sq]

and Jyggalag has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more

[@9stanislav9]

+WeebMaster69420 You dont get the joke do you.

[@anime-cu7sq]

i do

[@9stanislav9]

K then xD

[@Cult_of_Aion]

Hey guys, it's Mora just sitting here in my LAMBORGHINI

[@socialaccount0000]

Why are most of the canon endings for your characters at the end of ES games involved with Deadric princes? Morrowind: Manipulated by Azura to do her bidding in every life he/she experiences via reincarnation. Oblivion: Helps defeats Mehrunes Dagon along with help from the Septim bloodline, gets tricked into entering the shivering isles and tricked one last time into mantling Sheogorath's personality. Skyrim: The Dragonborn, after defeating Alduin gains the attention of Hermaeus Mora. Who convinces the dragonborn to return the Ogma Infinium back to his realm (and in turn buffing the dragonborn somewhat for his efforts.) The returning of the book pisses off Mirrak, sensing his days as Mora's servant are running short does his best to kill you in order to prove to Mora that he is still of use. You defeat Mirrak however due to Hermaeus already knowing of Mirrakk's alterior motives. He obliterates Mirrakk, and forces the Dragonborn to stay in Apocryptha as his new servant (all the while giving the Dragonborn infinite knowledge for his efforts). Whats gonna happen to our character in Elder Scrolls 6 huh? Get tricked by Hircine and becoming his new pet or something? Turned into Sheogorath's newest, most favorite cheese fork?

[@mr.jameson218]

Social Account Nah, no one would respect Hircine for getting fucked up by a mortal.

[@bryanbenskin2714]

Maybe it'll have something to do with the local pantheon, like the Yokudan pantheon if the game is in Hammerfell. I can just imagine if it's in Elsweyr though. You get turned into moon sugar by Sheggarath (I think that's his Khajiiti name).

[@revolverocelot1380]

Doubt. No one follows their original pantheons I think. The nords for example worship the nine which is an amalgamation of elven and human gods. They no longer worship their originally savage pantheon. Yokuda sank into the sea after the red guards fought the sea elves or something and hammerfell has been a part of the empire for a long while. I dunno, I doubt we'd see the yokudan pantheon.

[@ThePlayer920]

Don't forget Daggerfall where Sheogorath helps you recover the Mantella

[@ThePlayer920]

@@revolverocelot1380 The various races have always worshipped the same pantheon, just by different names. For example, Lorkhan is called Shor by Nords, Sep by Yokudans, Lorkhaj by Khajiit, etc.

[@lts_Jake]

so technically the most powerful daedric prince is the character from oblivion. that's fucking awesome

[@myocardialinfarction6947]

Well he kinda did a lot of things in oblivion.. sold his soul to some daedra became a daedra pissed of mehrunes dagon. killed umaril . favored by akatosh(maybe??) and loved by the people of cyrodil and many more so i guess he deserves immortality?

[@Slender_Man_186]

The Niverine (I think that's how you spell it) from Morrowind is also very powerful. He's not a god, but he is immortal and currently (by the time of Skyrim) visiting Akavir.

[@myocardialinfarction6947]

imagine if azura gets lonely and just keeps annoying nerverine in his dreams

[@FelixIakhos]

Slender Man 186 *Nerevarine. It'd be awesome to discover what happened to him

[@darth_sidious_sheev_palpatine]

so all those cheats that I exploited, like duplicating one F*** ton of skooba, taking it all, and running, at mock 5, naked around Cyradell(how ever it spelled) are cannon, sweet

[@Spazpool]

Wait, so that means that when I am talking to Sheogorath, I’m talking to the main character of Oblivion?

[@pancakes8670]

Possibly

[@logangoerks236]

@@pancakes8670 No it is and if you listen he references events from Oblivion.

[@Boom__6678]

Pretty much, yeah.

[@ravenclawtom]

yup

[@blstcx8224]

I think

[@SammTea]

Sheogorath has always been my favorite. He made me feel better after meridia shattered my eardrums

[@kaibrunk5658]

the quest itself is annoying though

[@GeneralHelloThere]

[SaRCaStIc vOIce] All these dead bodies have so much gold... All these weird skeletons are so weird... All this lazer puzzle needs is dubstep and ill ragequit... All this boss needs is a 1up and- Thats... Fu**ing stupid Rrward Yay, soord of making ur screen explode in any nordic ruin ever

[@DevPatel-if2jj]

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

[@commandershephard5019]

i was playing at 3am and her voice was so loud it was muffled coming out my tv woke the whole damn house up

[@Salmagros]

@@commandershephard5019 But the quest and her Reward was really satisfying though.

[@elevatormusic4000]

so our character from Oblivion is the most powerful daedric prince? Sweet

[@aensyn4360]

nope jyggalag and sheogorath are no longer one after the shivering isles

[@kaiser1817]

Unsound Unltd. Yes but sheogorath retaind jyg’s power

[@aensyn4360]

@@kaiser1817 yeah but isn't jyg who is said strongest who now roams without a realm and also inevitably would always have become sheogorath because you cannot bring order to oblivion.

[@kaiser1817]

Unsound Unltd. Nah even though he roams he wouldn’t become sheo considering they are now separate entities

[@matguimond92]

apparently Hero of Kvatch (oblivion character) becomes the new mad god after shivering isles. Don't know if its cannon or not. So the Sheogorath in eso might be the same one in oblivion but different then the one in Skyrim.

[@Ro-Ghost]

Mora gave up on being a Daedra and went into a Japanese film career

[@caseyb1346]

Yamete Mora-san!

[@chase_447]

lol i didnt realize that it was actually cannon that you become Sheogorath at the end of Oblivion. That's a pretty silly and jacked up ending for an otherwise epic tale. i love it.

[@DracoSafarius]

Technically I don't think you become him so much as the cursed entity that is the Daedric god of Madness latches onto you rather than Jyggalag again. Either way it's fucking badass

[@muatring]

The Hero of Kvatch becomes Sheogorath and Jyggalag is free.

[@DracoSafarius]

@Eric Yoder Oh no I'm not saying that that we don't turn into the prince, but it's not as simple as the quest lays it out to be

[@Darling-su3ci]

Draco Safarius we mantle him. Mantling is a well known thing in elder scrolls.

[@DracoSafarius]

@@Darling-su3ci I don't even wanna start on the tirade that is mantling lmao

[@ann4rchy]

*reads the title * J'zargo !!!!!

[@iustan5993]

Vittu Saatana Perkele Perkele yes

[@parthuin9927]

J'zargo Daddyyy

[@Khornecussion]

Excuse me brother. You've got a real nice... lump down there. (If people don't get that reference... *Facepalm*)

[@Ropewatch]

+J'zargo Best Mage Follower!

[@faltris5284]

Intriguing... But highly disturbing.

[@Salty_C.J.]

perhaps the reason sheogorath has so much influence in skyrim is that hes inhabiting a physical body in Nirn. that being the body of the hero of kavatch

[@dragonheart1236]

That's a good theory

[@jacobscroggins4282]

I like it.

[@kj12351]

He had just as much influence before he did that, so that can't be why.

[@TranscendentLion]

I've come across a theory that Jyggalag was always the prince of madness, even before he became Sheogorath. While Sheogorath's madness is the manic or demented kind, Jyggalag's madness is more of an obsessive kind, meticulously ordering everything in a way that really is beyond the bounds of sanity. Sheogorath seems to hate the idea of anything having any sort of logic or order to it, but Jyggalag takes this too far in the other direction, which is itself arguably a form of madness.

[@bill5627]

Very true, OCD madness.

[@adolfgaming1761]

Meridia: *”A new hand touches the beacon!”* Me: 🖕👁👄👁🖕

[@tomveloso6231]

Dawnbreaker worth it

[@buildawall5803]

@@tomveloso6231 no early atronach forge deadric armor op

[@windhelmguard5295]

i feel that the more powerful a daedric prince is, the less they utilizes their power. kinda like dogs, you have those pethetic little squeaks who aggressively attack just about anything and then you have those huge dogs who are always chill. you wouldn't see the more powerful daedra like nocturnal, sheogorath or hermaeus mora invading tamriel

[@wolves600]

I feel like Sheogorath would invade tamriel as a joke and once he has had his fun he would stop

[@wackadack9601]

How did you survive the 2nd arrow in the knee

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

Except Nocturnal did lmao!

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

She actually came very close to Destroying all of Mundas.

[@vintagedoctor7128]

Ugh been tending to ur hounds? You smell like a wet dog.

[@DracoSafarius]

Jyggalag no contest, let himself lose to be free of the combined curse of the other Daedra. Even in-universe confirms he's the strongest.

[@sammyjay4324]

por que los dos? I'm mean even now that they are separate Sheo and Jygg they are still two halves of the same super powerful being that could put any other god in their place. The only difference is style really, Jygg was much more just stomp and win with efficiency, while Sheo still wins with efficiency he just does it in a more personal and directed manner. Jygg would conquer your realm, Sheo makes you kill your own son so that he get's the soul, both are devastating in their own way.

[@sammyjay4324]

@Maple lord ESO lore is always a bit all over, with everything told to the player being a mix of correct and incorrect at the same time. At least from the way Oblivion presents it, they are two identities tied to the same being, and thus why Sheo needed you to mantle him so that there could be Sheo around to face Jygg. It a case of pre oblivion one could technically call them the same being, though after that they did become 2 separate beings.

[@sammyjay4324]

@Maple lord So the answer is kinda both then. Since Sheo only become the Sheo we know him as after the binding. So 2 become a new one that became a new 2 so to speak. Again lore in ES is very belief based so nothing is 100% even with lore masters, just more a agreed on interpretation. straight from the wiki "Aldmeri creation stories attribute his creation to the removal of Lorkhan's "divine spark." In one of these myths, he is described as the "Sithis-shaped hole" of the world. However, in an interview conducted by the Imperial Library, Haskill states this interpretation of the creation of Sheogorath may not be the case". So from that its not even agreed in universe if that is true, plus a sithis-shaped hole would be basically padomay or void, specifically the remnant of sithis that came from Lorkhan losing his power. To put it simply, the answer to are Sheo and Jygg different beings, yes, no, kinda, very much yes right now.

[@sammyjay4324]

@Maple lord I do like the yin and yang interpretation personally, since it does fit the structure given stuff like Anu and Padomay. That Sheo was just void and chaos, but madness only bloomed once Order was mixed. That and the fact that for a mad god Sheo was very organized, and for a god of Order Jygg had fanatic drive nearing madness.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

Good choice. And it's correct

[@martijnvanweele6204]

*Azura:* "Ugh! That Vivec guy is so infuriating! First he breaks basically every promise to me that there was to break, and now he's calling himself a living god... and I can do nothing but stand here, throw bodies at him and watch..." *Sheogorath:* "Not to mention he literally deep-throated you until you exploded..." *Azura:* "... yeah... and that..." *Sheogorath:* "I dare say Molag Bal is a lucky... woman? Or is Vivec a woman? Then how did she-" *Azura:* "I think that's not really his... they say he bit off Molag Bal's..." *Sheogorath:* "That's disturbing even by my standards..." *Azura:* "I didn't even know you had standards... then again, being full of surprises is kind of your thing..." *Sheogorath:* "It is, isn't it? So, want me to throw a moon at that Vivec guy?" *Azura:* "I don't think you can do that..." *Sheogorath:* "Doing it right now!" *Azura:* "But there's a barrier!" *Sheogorath:* "I don't care!" *Azura:* "That makes no sense!" *Sheogorath:* Who needs logic when you can have it rain Moon Sugar!?" *Azura:* "What-" *Sheogorath:* "CHEESE!" *Azura:* "What are you even on about!?" *Sheogorath:* "YOU MADE ME LIKE THIS!!! YOU MADE ME!!! YOU MADE MEEE!!!" *Azura:* "... I... guess that's fair..." *Sheogorath:* "YOU'RE MY GLOB!!!"

[@the_dropbear4392]

martijn van weele Nice non canon MK work you have there, unlike some of his other stuff that isn't canon

[@jwilson544]

Technically, azura and the other princes did make sheagorath, so you're not wrong.

[@bennytolkienfreund7182]

From where is this dialogue?

[@BloodElfB]

I love this!

[@Metalhammer1993]

can sheogorath make it rain moon sugar? kajits would worship him instantly

[@silverkobold6746]

Sheogorath is also probably the most beloved character by players that I have seen. lol

[@obviouslyfaketoddhoward4451]

Why thank you, a shame you’re not crazed though...ya know, you actually remind me of meself at a young age, roam’n the provinces of Tamriel, doin EVERY little thing just for a bit of cheese....no? Then get out of my sight ya puny mortal! Just you bein here is driving me...MAD! HAHA!

[@wackadack9601]

@@obviouslyfaketoddhoward4451 wow

[@juholempiainen3767]

Sanquin...

[@724music8]

Maiq does not accept that

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

Saguine is actually my favorite. And Meridia is my No.2, but only because she saved my Bud Darien Gauteir, then Supercharged him ;)

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

Meridia solely on the ability to, without fail, blow your eardrums out whenever a new hand touches the beacon

[@boney2982]

so powerful they transcend nirn into our world with the sole purpose of giving you military grade tinnitus

[@totallynotthefbi9194]

My dad is. He's beat me more than any of the Daedric artifact quests.

[@AC-ck2bd]

Totally not the FBI try being a Hispanic Asian mix 😭

[@Pdro-gw7lu]

Is he the daedric prince of jumper cables?

[@gavinlightfoot5521]

Has he found all of the black books for apocrypha?

[@machineunit]

@@AC-ck2bd so you're a Filipino?

[@AC-ck2bd]

machineunit Korean and salvadoran (Idk why I even commented that, it’s questionable)

[@sayyytttan]

The thalmor,jyggalag and the dwemer are 3 things I'd love to be heavily involved in TES6

[@anathar8830]

Let’s hope the Dwemer make a return. Also TES6 might take place during the Second Great War between the Aldmeri Dominion and the Empire.

[@gilbertmimmenger4290]

"Once, I ruled this Realm, a world of perfect Order. My dominion expanded across the seas of Oblivion with each passing era" Its Jyggalag. The Dadric Prince of Order. All the Dadric princes feared him soo much that they had to ally together to turn him into Sheogorath

[@joking_oregon1]

What about The Hero of Kvach who defeated Jyggalag in battle, and was named the new Sheogorath, wouldn't that technically make Sheogorath the strongest?

[@zacharyliverseed8464]

He's definitely an odd ball amongst Daedric Princes. He's almost like the Lorkhan of the Daedra. I think they teamed up to beat him because he was invading other realms in a nondiscriminatory way. Other Princes have invaded realms, such as Mehrunes Dagon. Soltha Sil was also said to be a lot like Jyggalag. " It is said that the Daedra fear wisdom and order, and for his similarities to Jyggalag's principles, they feared Sotha Sil above all others."

[@sweatshirtearl9537]

Joking_Oregon1 I don’t know how to explain it but that’s not right.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@joking_oregon1 I needed him to defeat me to escape the Greymarch

[@Vanerov]

@@sweatshirtearl9537 Yes it is.

[@jernchin87]

You're missing something. Have you ever considered that the reason the new Sheogorath can enter Mundus at will is not due to his power? The Hero of Kvatch originated from Mundus, so why should the barrier stop him from entering his own world?

[@sebas8225]

Thats a good point, fuck Hero Sheo, is broken.

[@josuev58]

nerf please lol

[@11tw48]

But Sheo did that repeatedly before the HoK became Sheo. He sends a moon to hover above Tamriel, and he creates the portal to the Shivering Isles.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

Doesn't explain how he was able to do so prior to the Hero of Kvatch Mantaling him.

[@oolong6293]

Velociraptors of Skyrim Sheo gives no fucks what so ever about the rules

[@CthulhuianBunny]

Jyggalag: Even when he's forced to be the fool, he's still the most powerful Daedra.

[@colt9836]

Hircine, no matter how weak or powerful he is, will always be my favorite; He's honorable (more so than his brothers, at least), he respects cunning and will, he truly cares for werewolves--there's evidence he regularly communes with his children, giving them advice and even appointing leaders when necessary.

[@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human]

The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.

[@BansheeKing22]

@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human hircine is the more reasonable of the prince's in a way. Its pretty rare for a prince to be as closely connected to nature as hircine is. The only other one would be Peryite with his disease domain. Even hircines blood moon hunt isn't so much an invasion like molag bals planemeld or dagons oblivion crisis was. I sorta picture it like a local fair kind of thing. Its all for the sake of sportsmanship.

[@bill5627]

​​@@BansheeKing22One time, many werewolves were killed, and hircine got revenge for them.

[@twitchypaladin8859]

Yeah hircine is a good example of how not every daedra is inherently "evil"

[@morganmeeves1286]

Not even a mention of Boethiah? You know, that one that literally killed a god?

[@BudokaiMan-mr9tw]

Well he was weakened after giving uo some if his power, Jyggalag literally could have consumed every single daedrics plain of oblivion because of how powerful he was becoming!

[@ay1701]

She killed an demigod or avatar of the aedra

[@obviouslyfaketoddhoward4451]

No no no, your doin it again, your doin somethin....... WROOOOOOOOONG! They only transformed a god

[@giuliob7358]

If you're talking about Trinimac, he was transformed in Malacath, don't think was killed.

[@hypecenter2986]

BudokaiMan 1200 he?

[@noxsas7030]

I love to think of a theory where the Thalmor are promoting this old world order, a static rule of all of tamriel. And the reason they're so successful is because they are working for/with Jyggalag, to grow his power in order.

[@umugumu]

NoxsasOrdasini 247 that would be awesome actually lol

[@wolves600]

except they want Tamriel to stop existing

[@RangerJosey]

@@wolves600 is there any more perfect order than nothingness?

[@wolves600]

@@RangerJosey there woudl not be nothingness the high elves would return to their immortal form

[@samiamrg7]

I don’t think destabilizing Nirn would cause it to cease to exist, but it would _cease to exist as we know it._ It would refurn to a state of shapelessness and timelessness.

[@boonejarvis6037]

The Soul Cairn is not Nocturnal's plane of Oblivion. It is ruled over by the Ideal Masters. Nocturnal subsides over the Evergloam.

[@johnnyjackson571]

Boone Jarvis he didn’t say it was.. he said “invaded the Soul Cairn and Nocternal’s realm”

[@SemiKillers]

@Sean Viklünd I think there is one in ESO

[@caiuscosades1791]

@@SemiKillers Crow's Wood.

[@Camelworks]

Called it

[@awkward.6889]

Camelworks Where are my fucking puns?

[@Aaron-fr5di]

Camelworks Hey

[@slyrimmcbiscuit4972]

HEYYY

[@greatestever4694]

Sameee!!

[@drippinwet774]

BiscuitFrog6 [TBC] Where are my dragons?

[@andrewryan1946]

I don't even have to watch, I know it's Sheogorath. I mean, corrupted form of Jygglag(or whatever his fuckin name is), who threatened all the other Daedra so much they turned him into Sheo? Duh

[@hk3786]

Andrew Ryan yup am whit you

[@myocardialinfarction6947]

Thats my brother alright shegorath

[@sebas8225]

If Sheogorath can transmute stuff so easily (god level alterationist+ilusionist feats), imagine what Jyggalag could do in his prime.

[@nwe2009]

Corrupted, straight from the jiggylag

[@themurmeli88]

Jyggalag was also the only daedric prince who did not consort with mortals, because he had neither the need or desire.

[@thomasgomez6218]

Vivec *Chilling* Sheogorath: I’m about to do what’s called a pro Daedric move

[@iSeeCorpses]

Hero of kvatch:Prank him sheo! Sheogarath: You already know (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞ "Threw a fvcking moon"

[@cvi4057]

Jyggalag. The answer is Jyggalag before he became Sheogorath. If it took all fifth teen of the princes to team up to bring him down he is the strongest. When the champion of Cyrodiil took Jyggalags place and became Sheogorath he became the strongest daedric prince but his madness handicaps him. I would really like to see a Jyggalag quest line in six. Aedra quest lines would be fantastic too.

[@austinoakford1782]

Correction: Jyggalag WAS the strongest. And he will regain that title eventually, assuming the other Daedra don't take measures to make that not happen. But as of now, he's lost so much power that he's only on the same level as Peryite, who is one of the weakest Daedric Princes. As of 4E 201, Sheogorath has the most raw power out of all the Daedra, although the Daedra with the most ability to influence Mundus is debatable. In that regard, I'd put my money on either Mehrunes Dagon (constant invasions of Nirn and other planes of Oblivion) or Vaermina (dream worlds and memory devouring of mortals).

[@ruedestrae8199]

Austin the Dragonborn We don't actually have any confirmed lore on Jyggalag's current state.

[@bishop6881]

Austin the Dragonborn dagon is still recovering from getting grilled by Akatosh, Vaemina or Bal are likely the most powerful at the moment assuming Bal has recovered from the ESO

[@deangeloellis6910]

i thought they said Azura took no part in killing of jyggalagg?

[@drippinwet774]

*insert triple drum hit* Restoring Order

[@alekfield540]

The difference between daedra and aedra is the d

[@OBSIADDON]

S RANK!

[@johnhorne1839]

Thanks, Hagrid.

[@masonscott9440]

Alek Field omg hahahahahahahahahahah

[@josephedwards5629]

Alek Field Good to know

[@zane5181]

WOW I HAD NO IDEA (Sarcasm)

[@RainbowWaffles]

If Mora isn't the most directly powerful, he's definitely the most dangerous, IMO. He seems to consistently show the ability to use his own power to kill people in Mundus even without some crisis having occured to empower him or his influence, and he always seems to get what he wants, even if you try to defy him.

[@manuelmoralez2257]

@Grungus Khan id say in terms of danger he’s number 2 With 1 being jyggy (when he comes back)/ sheo as he inherited powers from jyggy

[@manuelmoralez2257]

@Grungus Khan but that’s true jyggs concept of knowing all Would mean he would know he would’ve been backstabbed and would probably drive him insane + sheo is just derived of his power Rn jyggy is weak he lost all of his power But soon he is gonna regain them making once more the absolute strongest

[@manuelmoralez2257]

@Grungus Khan also now that I’m think about it wouldn’t jyggy be more of the god of knowledge if he was all knowing and can create these fate books?

[@sulIyisangel]

@@manuelmoralez2257 no jyggy made accurate predictions through calculations and facts and only told what will happen. Mora collects everything whether or not it is true. Jyggy is linear while Mora is a curvy line. Mora hoards knowledge linked to destiny which Jyggy doesn't believe in

[@alpacalover0]

@@grunguskhan1335 And now with TESO we learned of a new Daedroth Prince, thus elevating the number of spokes to an even 9, totaling to 18 Princes....

[@jonahgoode1829]

Wrong! The atronach stone is the most powerful

[@soupstick7187]

Obviously, it's not even a contest if we count the atronach stone.

[@gungunk1464]

but... i like the lord stone

[@issacwhittaker3687]

Mr. G The fallen God the lord stone struck down by the atronach stone many years ago.

[@Jakobos]

Actually by that Logic, the Mage Herself would be the most powerful, since The Mage controls The Atronach (Can summon and control thousands of Atronachs at her whim)

[@jonahgoode1829]

SirJakobos but the magic resistance is a must for any daedra

[@MasterOfCydonia]

I don't think you best described Jyggalag. Jyggalag IS the Daedric prince of Order, by extension of this he literally knew every event that would ever occur in all time. Through careful calculation, and meticulous planning, he could conquer worlds. The reason the other Daedric princes were so scared of him was because every thousand years his realm would grow in at least twice its original size. With the power of his Knights of Order, and the Priests of Order at his back, Jyggalag was more powerful than even Merhuns Dagon. Not even the armies of Oblivion could match the order and power of the armies of Jyggalag.

[@whoknows7968]

Then why'd he lose

[@Kyinuda]

Who Knows All the prince's combined efforts to essentially turn him into sheogorath, with him returning to his original form to wreak havoc on shivering isles every greymarch

[@whoknows7968]

Cory Trapkins I know that which is why I'm wondering why Xanadu-King is saying "Not even the armies of Oblivion could match the order and power of the armies of Jyggalag" when that is literally what they did

[@Kyinuda]

Who Knows I think he meant Mehrunes' army of Oblivion. They don't say what his realm is called in Oblivion, I don't think. They just call it "Oblivion"

[@reign0599]

+Who Knows All of them combined, +their princes. If it was just a 1v1 for example, Jyg would win. He was able to see almost every possible outcome before it'd even happen.

[@patricks.4491]

I think you forgot to mentioned Boetiah. She had the Power to turn Malacath, who was at first an Aedra, into a Daedra and all his Followship into Orks

[@ookie4179]

She pooped him out 😳

[@mark5222]

A Daedra, who didn't lose part of him/herself to Mundus, defeating an Aedra... Wow.

[@kiran5964]

I think in the next game, we should meet Jyggalyg and, him still being weak, asks us for help, as an option to shepgorath's quest or his own quest.

[@sebas8225]

Or maybe he will be part of the main questline involving the thalmor, he could be their new boss.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Sebas G Jygglag has no interest in mortals, he just wants order and the onlywayto make nirn I to order would be flattening it and Turing it into his relm, killing everyone ext. And since it's not possible to invade at the moment he can't do that

[@The.Nasty.]

The_Drop Bear damn I had the same thought. Maybe he’ll pose as someone else to try to convince us to destroy the other daedra. Then use their power to be a huge d bag.

[@wolves600]

well you cannot destroy dadera they are completely immortal you could weaken them though

[@The.Nasty.]

Wolves600Gaming not destroy as in kill, more like absorb I guess?

[@adamness2760]

Nocturnal is still the best, she has those large and perfectly shaped eyes. Luv that stuff

[@nathanieljohnson5414]

I never actually read her dialogue; too much eye contact😏

[@aidentheorc2124]

M'aiq is strongest.

[@melchid8448]

Maiq have lot of interesting things

[@mr_ocarlin5282]

Agreed comrade

[@mrbarefootbogan6254]

Liar!

[@sladewilson9770]

jyggalag is supposed to be the strongest one, but he lags way too much

[@sladewilson9770]

i'll drink bleach mixed with sea water, don't worry guys

[@JamesW609]

NO need to apologize for a good pun.

[@rameersantillano1563]

so.. u dead now?

[@plaguedoctor981yt8]

Slade Wilson love this 😂

[@rdogthemerc4906]

Hircine is my favorite he’s kinda just chillin in the corner doing arts & crafts with animals and making the other creatures kill each other

[@miguelpadeiro762]

And also messing around with some snow tribesmen in one random small island

[@LeSingeAffame]

One thing about Nocturnal is that the curse she put on her Cowl needed the power of a freaking Elder Scrolls to be erased If that is not a demonstration of power, then I don't know what you need

[@500plusdlamardeya3]

LeSingeAffame Its not about artefact's its about deadra

[@SpectreStatus]

*"...the curse she put on her Cowl..."*

[@bobanesz736]

Seth Rios thank you!

[@GlitchedEnt]

But they could've technically gotten another Prince to remove the curse. The elder scrolls was only used as a way to rewrite history so there was no curse at all. It was just easier considering the tools at hand. It wasn't that they needed it's power. They used it as a loop hole that wasn't necessary but was easier to do. (Yes I know this is old)

[@roadhouse6999]

Nocturnal has the power of cleavage. Have you noticed that in other fantasy games, a female mage's power seems to have direct correlation with the amount of cleavage they show?

[@wolfancap6897]

I was so bummed that Jyggalag wasnt in Skyrim you have no idea

[@iamgroot1223]

Propably not yet. I hope he will be in elder scrolls 6

[@Ja-Nei]

Maybe, but i doubt that, since Nirn is quite orderly by his standards (since it was created by Anu alinged spirtis), which means it doesn't require/need his proding or his knights of order.

[@aaronaustin9814]

@Tic Tac ohh but he will be known that's for sure the time he gains his full power again in 3 kalpas or so the mortals will know

[@MLPDethDealr32]

He's in a mod called VIGILANT and you can reclaim his sword for your own use again.

[@sweatshirtearl9537]

Y N But he’s probably pissed off about the Dragonborn killing Alduin. Considering that order in the world, will have natural events come. Alduin was gonna push extinction and possibly open the next world but the Dragonborn stopped it. Order in the universe was disrupted.

[@RaunienTheFirst]

I think Sheogorath is the most powerful by far, but his insanity prevents him from actually achieving much of anything.

[@nmac1563]

For sure agreed. When he was jygalag he was apparently the most powerful, shows how good he was, and how much potential he has.

[@roleplayenthusiast6998]

jyggalag was the strongest but the other princes feared his order and power. They cursed him and turned him mad. This turned him into sheogorath and an accidental prince.

[@vinnycritzer3449]

Roleplay Enthusiast does sheogorayth have all the power of the other

[@nocturnecz3965]

Vinny Critzer Sheo does have the same amount of raw power, and is still incredibly powerful, but his madness just can't stand up to the cold order, planning and calculations of future events of Jyggalag.

[@shadenox8164]

Sheogorath wasn't an accidental prince, they made him quite delibrately. I'm sure if they could have made him weaker than a prince they would have,

[@ghostprick6488]

Before i watch ill call it and say Sheogorath

[@fabrypetty1689]

Actually Jyggalag is stated to be stronger, that's why the daedric princes turned him into 1st sheogorath.

[@georgiykireev9678]

@@fabrypetty1689 But since Sheogorath is merely a shard of his soul, the original Jyggalag is stronger.

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

@Alika Fifi arafiah they aren't, you coudl say that Jygalagg was stopped because he was becoming stronger than Sithis itself considering he was ruling the order of all creation.

[@Vanerov]

@TheHonestDutch/Irish/Italian guy He definitely is the most powerful.

[@TheTaintedWisdom]

6:45 - Hermeus Mora: "Work *smarter...* not harder..." Also, you forgot the evilest and most powerful Daedra of all: H'owaard the Todd! Prince of lies, corruption, and microtransactions, and patron saint of whores. He may only be a harbinger for them, but the lords in the planes of Bethezdia, and *especially* the cruel slavemasters Zennimacks are among the most ruthless beasts in existence! H'owaard the Todd has corrupted countless worlds, and even brought the lands of Fallion Out LXXVI into a horrifying purgatory where it perpetually walks a fine line between nominal functionality and cataclysmic destruction! He's cursed countless mortals with immortality, doomed to feel the pain of death but never succumb to it unless he offers them a specific circumstance for death, and that's if they're *lucky.* He's legendary for, and *relishes* in, enticing people with grand promises before crushing them when they're at their most vulnerable. Again, he may only be the glorified henchman of his masters, but H'owaard the Todd is willing to sink to whatever depths necessary to appease them. It doesn't matter how many worlds they condemn/destroy, how many lies he must tell, or how many ideals he abandons to whore himself out to an audience, just as long as people become his thralls for his masters.

[@dustinayers65]

Lol true

[@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE]

plus he was in the infamous Daedric sect open to none but the most powerful and evil Daedra of them all... the *_Klu'uub of Xcheh-ehsszz_* ... known to many due to its most diabolical and malevolent of mottos: *_It Just Works!_* (KZbin won't let me type using the Daedric alphabet smh)

[@ChibiCosmos]

I would say Sheo/Jygg and Meridia. Power is subjective as I believe influence and personal strength are both powers. The things that make Meridia unique from the daedra make her stronger. Her ties from Aetherius are still there in a way. Though not at full strength she can utilize differing power sources to combat many of the princes. Number one being manipulating those that naturally fear daedra and undead Sheogorath is so powerful that even though the combined strength of the princes was used to seal Jygg, they actually created something worse. He is unpredictable at times, personally strong, crafty, knowledgeable and manipulative. It's like when they tried to stop Jygg they accidentally created something by giving a piece of themselves up.

[@hectorandem2944]

Mehrumes Dagon, technically. He is the Daedra of *Change.* (And he's got 4 arms - _do you even lift bro?!_ ) _Everything_ changes.... Except War. *War never changes*

[@pedigreeann]

And armor and weapons. How the heck has Tamriel gone through thousands of years of history but the armor and weapons you loot off of draugr are identical to anything you buy new from a smith? An ebony sword looted from a draugr is the same as an ebony sword new-forged by Adrienne. War usually stimulates innovation, but not in Tamriel.

[@Gerraint]

Meh.. He's weak, he can't even defeat akatosh despite all of this lifting in oblivion

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

Yeah but to win a war you need to have order, the order wins and stops wars and Jygalagg is order. Also his Sword is cool af in comparison to that generic deadric Axe that Merhunes Dagon used.

[@LiamFEgan]

It took all the other daedra to turn Jygglag into Sheogorath to stop him from invading all the other planes of oblivion. He has to be the strongest

[@alvinlif]

When I think about it, I would love to have Elder Scrolls 6 be about Vivec and the final days of his life!

[@chriscross4615]

well he did bite of molag bals cock and used it as a weapon had intercourse with him anumber of times hmm.... interesting

[@brandonwithnell612]

vivec was either killed by the nerevarine, or disapeared/died after the effects of the heart of lorkhan wore off, if they showed what happend they would have to force the choice of killing him in morrwind to be canon or not which is something they usually try to avoid

[@the_dropbear4392]

Tyler W. He was around during the Oblivion crisis, but then dissapered, probably fucked off to Atherius to chill out with his CHIM buddy Talos

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

The_Drop Bear *Sees Oblivion gate open* Vivec: Fuck this shit, I'm out.

[@azothoth666]

The_Drop Bear Talos and Vivec would never get along.....way too much racial tension

[@Meh-gm8mv]

"knowledge is power" inherently, Herma Mora is the hoarder of power.

[@meandmetoo8436]

Boethia would disagree.

[@pj5403]

But he steals the knowledge all that knowledge is stolen knowledge

[@mr.jameson218]

withered freddy Uh, irrelevant?

[@mildsthatyac2097]

P J knowledge is knowledge doesn’t matter if it’s stolen or not

[@tetsumeaoepaidowha8394]

"And power confers right" so say the Telvanni

[@justins340]

Tbh I think it's pretty cool how it's likely that during the events of Skyrim, three Elder Scrolls protagonists are alive at the same time. While the Dragonborn is doing his thing, the Champion is a god and Nerevarine is in Akavir being technically immortal. Unless he was killed in Akavir but that hasn't been confirmed or denied.

[@Peritye]

don`t need 15 minutes. Its Jyggalag. If you played the game, "Jyggalag was so strong that the other Daedric Princes cursed him onto becoming Sheogorath. the exact opposite." But the shivering Isles expansion in Oblivion is about freeing Jyggalag eternally. So now there is a new God. Sheogorath. It is no longer Jyggalag becoming Sheogorath, now there is Jyggalag *and* Sheogorath. This was a way to make the champion of kvatch feel superior the same way as the nerevarine or the dragonborn. The champion of kvatch is Sheogorath, and Jyggalag is back forever.

[@ravenousbasilisk5120]

Unless others unite and curse him again, he probably won't fall for it again though

[@samhenshaw4962]

I think you’re mixing up his names, it’s “hero of kvatch” and “champion of Cyrodil”

[@samiamrg7]

What about Sithis?

[@sparklepawz1185]

Matheus Moreira he’ll probably carve up another piece of oblivion and regain it all. Though that’ll take centuries.

[@murdomaclachlan]

@@samiamrg7 Sithis isn't a Daedric Prince. He is the birthed soul incarnate of Padomay. It's confusing. Yes, I did nick that description from the wiki.

[@alvinlif]

I have a theory: I think that Maiq the Liar may be a Deadric Prince!

[@Catloves997]

What if he is one of Hermaeus Mora's followers who was granted knowledge and immortality? Just a theory.

[@anakinskinwalker996]

fishlove69 It's a gift with a catch. You have immense amounts of knowledge, but no one believes what you tell them! Hence the word "Liar" in his name! :)

[@crayolamanic1381]

Hickory Chicory the Cassandra complex?

[@sypelack]

I seen him watching me take over a fort on a ledge near by while doing the empire line it was the fort by winterhold

[@MurkyWaters677]

Maiq is not immortal if u believe it when he says Maiq's father was also named Maiq

[@love2fight205]

Hail Nocturnal! Where are my hardcore thieves and Nightingales? Eyes open, walk with the shadows.

[@antiochus87]

You're just with her because of her neckline. Since I realised that I could just stockpile lockpicks it's all been about Azura for me. By Azura, by Azura, by Azura!

[@randommagos9001]

@@antiochus87 you fool you fail to see the truth of hermaeus mora

[@hoshueyeplopper4465]

@@randommagos9001 You are all fools! You need to breathe in deep mortals!!!!

[@lepidlover0557]

@@randommagos9001 Meridia forever!

[@mixem979]

@@lepidlover0557 yea say goodbye to your ears but with sheograth I can have all the entertainment and power I could ever dream of

[@TheLilbigBlack]

If I were to worship a Daedric Lord. It would have to be Hircine,Meridia or Azura. Since these three arent inherently evil.

[@sebas8225]

Yeah but then you cant change your path ever, or they will fuck you.

[@thorveim1174]

Not true with Hircine.. sure, he will sent all kind of nasties to hunt you down, but I can see him being more amused than mad at you deciding to screw him over. Thats what I like about him... you are either the hunter or the prey, and no matter which one you are, he is pleased if you assume one of these roles by your own will. (and turning against him definitely makes you a prey to him)

[@yanski9395]

a new hand touches the beacon

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

Better to go for Meridia or Azura if you don't want any fornication with beasts or being transformed into a were-creature.

[@martazawadiak5265]

Id Worship Hermaues Mora

[@MikePSU]

1. Jyggalygg 2. Hermaeus Mora 3. Mehrunes Dagon/Molag Bal In my kind of uneducated opinion.

[@deangeloellis6910]

InsayneDaRoss sheogorath is the strongest all the rest of the daedric princes fear sheogorath because of what can do

[@thehighlights9421]

Hermaeus mora is only dangerous to mortals and he created nothing he uses mortal to make his will

[@nocturnecz3965]

I would put Sheogorath instead of Mora, but other than that I agree with you.

[@doombuddie7968]

I think sheo is too hyped tbh. I agree with this list, though I'd move three and two.

[@the_dropbear4392]

DeAngelo Ellis the Daedra dear Jygglag, so they made him into Sheogorath. Jgyallag has the same amount of power as Sheogorath, but he is stronger overall as he is able to predict every event that is going to happen and has one of if not the strongest army

[@leedledee1724]

When sheogorath starts making sense, that’s when you know it’s time to get some alcohol

[@harzbennett5437]

I hope they put cold harbor in elder scrolls VI

[@Killmate50]

it's in ESO. as is Lyg.

[@peryite9979]

I want quagmire

[@randominternetguy13]

Cold harbor is in the mod for skyrim special addition, the gray cowl of nocturnal. The voice acting for the mod is mehhhh... but I feel it's essential for any thief play through. Pretty awesome

[@randominternetguy13]

lol edition*

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

Cold harbor is literally just a shittier version of Tamriel, why would you want that? Also Grey Cowl is the best quest mod I've played for Skyrim, only other one even worth mentioning is Wheels of Lull. I've heard Vigilant is pretty good but haven't tried it, the vast majority are garbage though. None of them have consistently good voice acting, at best two or three voices will be professional quality and the rest will sound like mumbling nerds talking into a tin can and whistling between every word.

[@mephisto279]

Team Jyggalag, took all the princes to bring him down. He is rebuilding. waiting and the lord of order will return.

[@thalmoragent9344]

_Nazeem: The Deadric Prince_ of *Frustration and Unadulterated Hatred.*

[@mostevilcoral6568]

Meridia kicked Molag Bal's ass in ESO. Even in her weakened state, she is incredibly powerful.

[@birdmn9930]

Plot devices

[@spazzmaticus9086]

Connor S not canon.

[@500plusdlamardeya3]

Skulduggery Pleasant So u think that Molag Bal's invasion on Tamriel is not canon too?

[@spazzmaticus9086]

500 plus dla Mardeya If it was, you'd think there would be a bunch of mentions and books written about it, also, the lusty argonion maid is in it for some reason (it was written just before morrowind, way after eso),

[@mostevilcoral6568]

Skulduggery Pleasant It is canon, as Bethesda said so. Unfortunately for you, you don't choose what is and isn't canon. There is no history of ESO lore in any other TES game, as it occurs during a time-frame known as the interegnum, in which extremely little is known.

[@jakethejax]

Sheogorath is stronger than Jyggalag cause the player character in oblivion kicked Jyggalag's butt in his own realm before becoming a daedric prince. Also let's be real we all kept Umbra for ourselves.

[@sebas8225]

Canonically not, but if you look at Skyrim´s daedric artifact rewards, you will notice 2 from the oblivion timeline are missing and that the Gray fox cowl didnt appear, so yeah, potentailly HoK sheo kept 3 artifacts for himself plus a bunch of other power-ups and items, also I´ve heard people sayin´ that since you got the mantle of prince of madness and you were originally from mundus you are no longer limited to travel between Nirn and the oblivion plane nearly as hard as previous sheo, so yead definitely more broken.

[@jakethejax]

Final Sebas Love it, pretty sure I do the opposite of what C Vile asks of me in every game.

[@sebas8225]

Yeah, well regardless I have no ideas on how could C VIle, get his mask back if he gave it to the prince of madness himself! Lol I cant imagine how awkward it would be to get back LMAO, like would he just try to teleport back to him and have it not work and be like: "Oh **** I cant believe I´m being given the umbra treatment again!" and Barbas be Like: "want me to check out on who has your mask?" Vile: "Ok", Barbas goes checking and returns with Sheo, Vile would be so trolled LMAO XD

[@sebas8225]

Or the umbra version: Vile: I must punish the guy who kept umbra! Barbas: Send assassins you should Vile sends assassins years go by, and Vile keeps receiving souls but with no signs of Umbra, the assassins or the Hero of Kvatch Vile: Where the **** is my sword, *+ª*!! Barbas: Hey at least you still are getting souls XD Meanwhile in Shivering isles... New Sheogorath: Damn this sword is fantastic for killing dancers! Haskill: You know you are sending your dancers right into Vile´s realm, isnt that Counterproductive for your own power my lord? New Sheo: Yeah. Yeah I get it, I just though, it would be fun to set up a new precedent as the prince of madness and add Vile to my list of daedra lord trollings, I will go deliver his sword, maybe in the coming week? Haskill: Sure, sure, I suppose he will have quite a reaction if you do now. New Sheo: "Trollface", I cant wait to see his reaction! Needless to say Vile´s trollface kept Sheo LMAO´ing for the whole year afterwards!

[@the_dropbear4392]

Jacob Riché you defeated Jyggalag with the power of Sheogorath inside his own relm, Jgyallag didn't have control over it yet as the grey-march wasn't complete. Sheogorath has the same raw strength as Jygglag , but he doesn't have the ability to predict every event

[@rydernigga5675]

Vaermina’s plain of oblivion summed up in one word... Giggety

[@wishbone346]

No honorable mention for Hircine? He's not the strongest, be he did create were-beasts and has had a huge impact on the mortal realm. I'd argue he's stronger than Hermaes Mora is at least.

[@EdenHolder]

wishbone346 k

[@wishbone346]

Sain ???

[@Bruced82]

Certainly one of the coolest looking.

[@brandonwithnell612]

that wasnt hircines full power that the nerevarine fought, its in hircines nature too always allow his prey a chance of survival/escape, to him there no fun in a hunt if its unfair to the prey

[@actualmadscientist]

wishbone346 Hi wishbone! remember me? Good to sed you again. I do think Hircine is quite strong, but it is difficult to know for sure because Molag Bal created vampires. Are were beasts or vampires stronger?

[@thegreatmoustachio]

Hermaeus Mora is the Batman of the Daedric Princes. He doesn't have any powers, but he is intelligent enough to be quite formidable. His brain is his power.

[@sebas8225]

I wonder if it was his idea to have Jygg nerfed, in the first place, he must´ve been the one to devise the curse used with the other lords at least.

[@ravenousbasilisk5120]

Not quite, based on video - he only collects knowledge as he doesn't create anything himself - or he can't

[@dakervadora264]

Peryite: *releases Covid-19 to the mortal world* - HA! Who's the strongest and most deadly prince now?

[@SKtheMage]

Oh no im afflicted

[@heretyk_1337]

This comment did not age well...

[@dakervadora264]

@@heretyk_1337 You want me to change it to Covid-19? ;P

[@trafficcone7344]

Dakerdusia lol what was it before

[@hihi-nm3uy]

traffic cone no srsly im actually curious to know what it was

[@pyromaniac000000]

This kitty shall always worship the mother Azurah, she gave Khajiit his gift of stealth, and this one very much likes his claws too.

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

and that's why Azura is the most powerful. she has the most followers and it's not even close.

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

@@chainsaw8507 nope. the power a daedra possess is all the same. the only differences are their spheres of influence. the more followers one has, the larger their influence. the inverse is also true. a daedra that loses all of it's followers loses all it's influence. azura has the entire races of khajit and dunmer worshipping her, so that makes her the strongest. this is also why the thalmor work to ban talos worship. they wish to depose talos, who, depending on man/mer perspective, guards akatosh or imprisons auriel.

[@xzxz85]

Hermaeus Mora is so badass, I would for sure worship and serve him, knowledge is stronger than force.

[@nightstrike9729]

Same

[@asparagoose8992]

Also that voice

[@hectorandem2944]

For a guy who "knows all the things" he suuuure got shown up by a couple of shouty bois. 🐸☕

[@ΘΟΔΩΡΟΣΜΑΛΙΑΡΟΣ]

Molag bal

[@pj5403]

Im alredy insane so i fit under sheogorath but i could have gone insane from the black books

[@DraegonX]

Peryite the" this is all working as intended" Daedra

[@ravenclawtom]

just the imagine of the world around him burning and this all powerful being saying that with an oblivious look on his face is worth a chuckle.

[@manuelmoralez2257]

Just turns out his human form is Tod Howard

[@DraegonX]

@@manuelmoralez2257 I wouldn't be surprised they did that and made the next game about the Fractal existence of the "Game" to exist in every console and that "you", your character, is a player in an AI and is the true sickness affecting the balance of the world, but of course, you can play this game normally or use Microtransactions to try and affect each chapter. Only after $99.99, you can reach the true ending, and realize you too have fallen to the law and order of the world, True Capitalism Lol, I cant

[@DjangoFatt]

Answer: Jyggalag, Lord of Order

[@SophiaAstatine]

Order is always strongest in the beginning, till chaos surpasses it, and then there's no going (wabba)back

[@i3azzle]

So... basically... the hero of Kvatch is the most powerful daedric prince of all? That's really cool actually. Anyway, you said something about his mantle taking over or something. Does that explain why my Argonian Sheogorath is a Nord in Skyrim?

[@anakinskinwalker996]

Mateusz Bazydło The canon hero of Kvatch is an Imperial, this explains why he is a human. I think him being a Breton in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim was for aesthetic reasons, not necessarily canon reasons. Hope I helped! :)

[@actualmadscientist]

Mateusz Bazydło Well sort of. The canon race of each of the game's protagonist (the player) usually matches the province the game takes place in. Dunmer for morrowind, imperial for oblivion, nord for skyrim. Being able to choose any race is just a noncanonical gameplay feature for player convenience. That is why in oblivion the mage's guild quest where some guy sends you to pick up a super heavy magic ring to try and trick you into drowning in a well is the same for all characters, including argonians. It is also why you don't have to be a khajit in order to eat moonsugar. However, Sheogorath having the ability to appear in any form he desires also applies. As for how mantling works, think of it this way: Greater spirits have certain roles to play in the universe of elder scrolls, each role being part of the cosmic balance. If a being leaves that role for any reason, the universe will find a replacement to refill the empty position. Talos the ninth divine came to be when three different mortal beings filled the place by Shor/Lorkhan. In other words, when Jyggalg left the iles he knew the universe needed a new sheogorath to fill the necessary amount of chaos needed to maintain universal balance, so the universe transformed the champion of cyrodiil into sheogorath, as they were the most qualified replacement.

[@trollzynisaacjohan1793]

I always assumed you were just a steward for sheogorath and he would return.

[@GodKiller97]

timemadscientist Greatscot! Player race actually is canon by virtue of C0DA

[@Spacefrisian]

Thats one of his powers, he is playing with your mind and one day youll be going mad about it....or maybe you stay perfectly sane...booring boring sane.

[@bretwrightjr7752]

Mehrus Dagon was defeated "How is this possible? He waited for the perfect time to rise to power again." He faced a mortal.. Who got lucky.

[@hueylongdong347]

Jyggalag since this was the reason he was cursed but Sheogorath could also count since he defeated many of his fellow Princes thanks to his wits.

[@deangeloellis6910]

Agent Smith jyggalagg was sheogorath

[@the_dropbear4392]

DeAngelo Ellis isn't anymore though, which means he's free to scare the rest of the daedra again

[@willvolkman9234]

My favorite prince is Sheogorath

[@jauneork278]

Jygallag was sealed because he simply doesn't play games. Simple. He was coming for the other gods. To force order upon them. And even after they all sealed him into insanity and created Sheagorath the opposite of himself. He was slowly breaking free. Occaisionally purging his other selfs chaos and evidently breaking part of the god of madness. When the Character (Champion of Cyridil.) who becomes Sheagorath defeats a severely weakened Jygallag it seems that Jygallag had in a sense planned this and although weaker than before. Is free to grow in power. That's right... Jygallag is so powerful that even after all the other daedric princes cursed him to be sheogorath he managed to break away at Sheogorath just enough to technically plan a way to rid the cycle by using you.

[@bigboss2174]

The strongest Deadric Prince was originally Trinimac before he was tricked into being eaten. Then Jygglag *was* the strongest Deadric Prince until the others teamed up against him and separated him into Sheogorath. Now Sheogorath is the strongest, he defeated 4 Deadric Prince's in there own game and when he challenge the Tribunal even though they stopped the meotorite he threw at Vivec. In the long run he knew it would destroy the mountain. He just waited until Vivec lost his power and it crashed down. Not to mention if it took 12 Deadra to beat Jygglag. That means Jygglag is worth atleast 12 Deadra at full power, with Sheogorath bring half, they should both be equal 6. In a way Sheogorath kind of proved this by beating 4 other Deadric Prince's and the power of influence and Dreadric games is a true contest of power despite what it seems to mortals. Clavicus is actually one of the weakest that's been confirmed, and Nocturnal isn't that powerful either you have a strong biased for her but she hasn't done anything to impressive at all.

[@shadenox8164]

He tricked them, he didn't actually fight them.

[@Neion8]

But is intellect and cunning not the ultimate form of power? An elephant may be dozens of times more physically intimidating than any human, but with the right tools and preparation it can be brought by one man.

[@bigboss2174]

A mental defeat from Deadra. Means alot more in terms of power for a Deadra spear then mortal perception. For Sheogorath to do that, explains that he was in fact more powerful then them.

[@Caerulean]

Iirc, Nocturnal is also the Daedric Prince of Luck, and Luck is a very powerful thing.

[@wolves600]

Trinimac also was not a Dadera until he was turned into malacath

[@cirquedumushroom]

I don't care who the most powerful is, my favorite is, and always will be Hermaous Mora

[@janogabor7697]

Mine too. Only because he is the most Lovecraftian part of Elder Scrolls, Mora is like a nerfed version of Yog-Shothoth.

[@Matakshaman]

The daedric prince of hentai

[@kagenotatsumaki]

Sheogorath>Mora

[@mrweeb1129]

You will never find my black books

[@yashkarkhanis5324]

He is by far the most powerful, he is all knowing and in elder scrolls that is all powerful

[@silverfang1122]

4:28 "A mortal who got super lucky" lmaooooooo

[@heretyk_1337]

Me, still watching thumbnail - Wuh...?!

[@LordMorde]

Considering the wabbajack is the only thing that can kill mehrunes dagon in vanilla oblivion, id say the mad boi is definitely the most powerful. The problem is he’d have to care enough to actually use his power.

[@Naafidy]

"[Sheogorath] frequently does things that should be impossible." Nah dude. The other Daedric Princes just lack creativity.

[@pj5403]

Proving he is better he can think of better things

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

I HAVE CREATIVITY. I CAN MAKE CREATIVE BISCUITS

[@Delete240]

No, it isn’t that the others lack creativity. What he means is, he can do things that the other daedra can’t do due to the barriers between nirn and oblivion, which limits the daedra’s possible influence in Tamriel. While the other daedra can’t do things like throwing moons at cities due to the barriers, sheogorath seems unaffected by them, meaning he can do those things. Creativity isn’t the problem. It’s having the ability to work around the barriers in place by the dragonfires.

[@jaggtepes1997]

Lol, its quite true, one of The vestige comrades said that "daedra have lack of imagination but they are also good imitators".

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@jaggtepes1997 WHAT! i never imitate anyone.

[@morsorcus8152]

I'm 4 years late but you glided over molag bal real quick.

[@Hanzo1]

i think either hermaeus mora or sheogorath

[@t84t748748t6]

sheogorath counter part jyggalag hey was so powerful the others cursed him to madness

[@mk11xgameplays44]

christopher box I definitely think Sheogorath

[@madness8897]

i love sheogorath, but hermaeus mora is the one with 'KNAWLADGE' (had to do it :D). but seriously hermaeus knows the future he will know what sheogorath will do if sheogorath isn't so random that you cant know what he will be doing while you know the future.

[@8BitPinkiePie]

madness Sheogorath was turned into the Prince of Madness by the other Prince's because he was a literal threat to the other Daedric Prince's

[@8BitPinkiePie]

madness even as the Prince of Madness if he can collect his own thoughts long enough he would be a major threat to the others

[@tripdelic9363]

I'm going with Lord Sheo

[@wendigotoes]

I love how ridiculously powerful Sheogorath is while being a really goofy and entertaining character

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

Meridia has the mythic power of bursting anyone's eardrums.

[@moge820]

He calls like every daedric prince "ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL"

[@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE]

@Admiral Firmus Piett we don't know if Lorkhan is actually a Daedric Prince or not, and Peryite, Malacath, and Hircine at least are arguably three of the top five weakest Daedric Princes along with Namira and maybe Sanguine lmao Peryite especially is weak as fuck

[@dragonheart1236]

@@STANKYCHEEZEMAYNE I like Peryite. Because, despite being a god of plague abc disease, he's not really evil. He creates said diseases for the sake of order